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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Sharma on April 18, 2008, 11:28:01 AM
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I am going to ask you all to put aside all dislike you may have for me and my faith. put aside any dislike you have of the TEAM and of the great man himself and answer me this question. please do it honestly and fairly.
this is one of the few available direct comparison shots from the 1997 Olympia.
I will not even ask by how much but simply who, in all your honesty, look better?
thankyou for being honest friends
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I don't see your point?
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I'm a huge Dorian fan, but honestly he is getting raped in that shot.
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I am going to ask you all to put aside all dislike you may have for me and my faith. put aside any dislike you have of the TEAM and of the great man himself and answer me this question. please do it honestly and fairly.
this is one of the few available direct comparison shots from the 1997 Olympia.
I will not even ask by how much but simply who, in all your honesty, look better?
thankyou for being honest friends
In all honesty..I think Mr.Ray looks the best in that photo...Anything else Charmin?
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Although I hate what he did to himself in his later years, Nasser clearly deserved that win.
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In that shot I would have to give the nod to Nasser. If there was ever a year he could have beaten Yates, 97 was definitely it.
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In all honesty..I think Mr.Ray looks the best in that photo...Anything else Charmin?
that is not what i'm asking. i am asking who look better in the direct comparison. like i said, please put personal battles aside and pick the winner from Nasser and Yates here.
Show me you can do this worm.
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Nasser by a mile. Yates has him on arms though.
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I don't see your point?
Nasser or Yates?
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Nasser has the advantage of the angle.
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show me some back shots
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Yates has him on arms though.
::)
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too bad the olympia wasn't given out based on competitors photos.
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Shawn Ray by a mile!
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(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15685-3/1997-mr-olympia-179.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15683-4/1997-mr-olympia-178.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15669-4/1997-mr-olympia-206.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
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I am going to ask you all to put aside all dislike you may have for me and my faith. put aside any dislike you have of the TEAM and of the great man himself and answer me this question. please do it honestly and fairly.
this is one of the few available direct comparison shots from the 1997 Olympia.
I will not even ask by how much but simply who, in all your honesty, look better?
thankyou for being honest friends
Nasser wins anyway.. Yates has cauliflower face.
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What about this guy?
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15641-3/1997-mr-olympia-199.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15637-3/1997-mr-olympia-198.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15633-3/1997-mr-olympia-197.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15629-3/1997-mr-olympia-196.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15488-4/1997-mr-olympia-158.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
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Why Dorian won, even at his worst ever showing:
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15601-3/1997-mr-olympia-189.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15592-3/1997-mr-olympia-186.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15484-4/1997-mr-olympia-156.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
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m8 I appreciate that you are a troll but the question is between Nasser and Yates. I can only read your posting different guys from different years as an attempt to detract from the truth that photo i posted tells.
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m8 I appreciate that you are a troll but the question is between Nasser and Yates. I can only read your posting different guys from different years as an attempt to detract from the truth that photo i posted tells.
You might want to check my post above, which tells the truth about the 1997 Olympia.
No one was even close to Dorian from the rear.
All the pictures I posted above are from the 1997 O. If only front muscularity mattered, Paul would have won easily...
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15028-3/1997-mr-olympia-89.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
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Why Dorian won, even at his worst ever showing:
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15601-3/1997-mr-olympia-189.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15592-3/1997-mr-olympia-186.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15484-4/1997-mr-olympia-156.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
I don't agree. I think even from behind the washed up 'backzilla' is beaten by Nasser
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the serious question I'd like to ask you sharma is why do you spend all this time worshipping nasser and trying to prove to everyone that he won a show 10 years ago? really....why does it matter that much to you? I don't get it at all.
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Even at his worst, Dorian destroyed the competition ;)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/14928-4/1997-mr-olympia-98.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
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You might want to check my post above, which tells the truth about the 1997 Olympia.
No one was even close to Dorian from the rear.
All the pictures I posted above are from the 1997 O. If only front muscularity mattered, Paul would have won easily...
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15028-3/1997-mr-olympia-89.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
I don't agree. he was off and his posing is painfully bad to watch.
one of the levrones was not the 97 O.
it was between Nasser and Dorian and the pics tell the story imo.
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Nasser by a mile. Yates has him on arms though.
This is comedy, no?
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one of the levrones was not the 97 O.
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/14624-4/1997-mr-olympia-75.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
Looks like he changed posing trunks at least 3 times... they're all from the 97 O.
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I am going to ask you all to put aside all dislike you may have for me and my faith. put aside any dislike you have of the TEAM and of the great man himself and answer me this question. please do it honestly and fairly.
this is one of the few available direct comparison shots from the 1997 Olympia.
I will not even ask by how much but simply who, in all your honesty, look better?
thankyou for being honest friends
In that particular shot, Nasser takes it.
Now, regarding Paul, from the front he looked awesome BUT if only he wasn't that lazy and improved his chest. Looks flat for his size.
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Look at how soft Nasser's back is compared to Dorian's
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/14628-4/1997-mr-olympia-76.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
Must have been even more clear live.
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the serious question I'd like to ask you sharma is why do you spend all this time worshipping nasser and trying to prove to everyone that he won a show 10 years ago? really....why does it matter that much to you? I don't get it at all.
Because I been a long term fan of Nasser and follow his career avidly. I think this was a terrible, terrible unjustice and his career was affected by the judge's lack of guts to rightfully give him the Mr O he won. He could have been a doctor or lawyer with his intellect yet he chose bodybuilding and got a raw deal.
again, I ask you to put aside your dislike of me and look at the evidence. who do you think wins?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246289;image)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15484-4/1997-mr-olympia-156.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
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How did Levrone place?
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/14564-3/1997-mr-olympia-60.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
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Because I been a long term fan of Nasser and follow his career avidly. I think this was a terrible, terrible unjustice and his career was affected by the judge's lack of guts to rightfully give him the Mr O he won. He could have been a doctor or lawyer with his intellect yet he chose bodybuilding and got a raw deal.
again, I ask you to put aside your dislike of me and look at the evidence. who do you think wins?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246289;image)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15484-4/1997-mr-olympia-156.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
What's done is done ;)
(http://www.muscletime.com/photos/v/professional-bodybuilding/olympia/1997-mr-olympia/1997-mr-olympia-raymond-cassar/1997-mr-olympia-26.jpg.html)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/14498-3/1997-mr-olympia-57.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/14536-3/1997-mr-olympia-82.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
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I am going to ask you all to put aside all dislike you may have for me and my faith. put aside any dislike you have of the TEAM and of the great man himself and answer me this question. please do it honestly and fairly.
this is one of the few available direct comparison shots from the 1997 Olympia.
I will not even ask by how much but simply who, in all your honesty, look better?
thankyou for being honest friends
First off, Dorian's biceps OWN that oil bagged piece of shit in this pic.
Now, go fuck yourself.
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Because I been a long term fan of Nasser and follow his career avidly. I think this was a terrible, terrible unjustice and his career was affected by the judge's lack of guts to rightfully give him the Mr O he won. He could have been a doctor or lawyer with his intellect yet he chose bodybuilding and got a raw deal.
again, I ask you to put aside your dislike of me and look at the evidence. who do you think wins?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246289;image)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15484-4/1997-mr-olympia-156.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
Dude ! As intelligent as you are ..? You need to get a grip.. I don't like Nasser..Also because of the way you "guys" pushed him on everyone here ..Alot of others also dislike him ...It doesn't matter what you think should have happened ,it's what happened .. He lost! So what if "YOU" think he should have won? He didn't! Nothing is going to change that ..That man has been retired for many years now...Please leave him where he is ....Retired !
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Because I been a long term fan of Nasser and follow his career avidly. I think this was a terrible, terrible unjustice and his career was affected by the judge's lack of guts to rightfully give him the Mr O he won. He could have been a doctor or lawyer with his intellect yet he chose bodybuilding and got a raw deal.
again, I ask you to put aside your dislike of me and look at the evidence. who do you think wins?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246289;image)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15484-4/1997-mr-olympia-156.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
LOL. A terrible injustice is child poverty or labour, not getting 2nd place when you feel you deserve first. ;)
/but you're right, nasser never looked better than in '97, and i've never gotten dorian - v. good back and calves and the rest is just blocky :-\
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Dude ! As intelligent as you are ..? You need to get a grip.. I don't like Nasser..Also because of the way you "guys" pushed him on everyone here ..Alot of others also dislike him ...It doesn't matter what you think should have happened ,it's what happened .. He lost! So what if "YOU" think he should have won? He didn't! Nothing is going to change that ..That man has been retired for many years now...Please leave him where he is ....Retired !
Again, why won't you answer.
Forget, please, your hate of me, Nasser and Arabs. Just look at these pictures and tell me who YOU think wins between Yates and Nasser. If you truly believe Yates then I respect that and you.
But please answer the question brother
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246289;image)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15484-4/1997-mr-olympia-156.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
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Again, why won't you answer.
Forget, please, your hate of me, Nasser and Arabs. Just look at these pictures and tell me who YOU think wins between Yates and Nasser. If you truly believe Yates then I respect that and you.
But please answer the question brother
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246289;image)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15484-4/1997-mr-olympia-156.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
Dorian Yates.
Front double biceps never won shows.
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Dorian Yates.
Front double biceps never won shows.
In Yates' case it is simply called the front double as he is allowed to perform the pose with no biceps at all ;D
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Were you at the show, Sharma?
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Because I been a long term fan of Nasser and follow his career avidly. I think this was a terrible, terrible unjustice and his career was affected by the judge's lack of guts to rightfully give him the Mr O he won. He could have been a doctor or lawyer with his intellect yet he chose bodybuilding and got a raw deal.
again, I ask you to put aside your dislike of me and look at the evidence. who do you think wins?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246289;image)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15484-4/1997-mr-olympia-156.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
front double bi-nasser
lots of other shots and anything from the back dorian wins
it's not about one pose
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Nasser may have had a better front double bi, but the disparity is artificially increased in that shot since he's closer to the camera and actually facing it, whereas Dorian is at an angle.
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Again, why won't you answer.
Forget, please, your hate of me, Nasser and Arabs. Just look at these pictures and tell me who YOU think wins between Yates and Nasser. If you truly believe Yates then I respect that and you.
But please answer the question brother
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246289;image)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15484-4/1997-mr-olympia-156.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=067cb102ab20b2415c73e3043eb7437e)
I don't hate Arabs,I don't hate you. I don't agree with your opinions and beleifs,I dislike Nasser. I think what he did showed no class,and put his bitterness out there for the world to see. I remember when I was a child and I stepped in dog shit ...My dad said Wormy..Don't worry about it ,clean it off your shoe ,it's good luck .. My point is.... I beleived anything my dad told me , because I looked up to him ,,I was his fan ... Maybe,just maybe.....? You have the same thing going on with Nasser?
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Again the same excuses and ignoring of the fact that Nasser beat Yates that night.
'the photo helps Nasser'
'Yates is granite like but only in the flesh'
I have seen him in the flesh and Yates was gone. His stomach was bloated, he had no arms (how can a mr O have no arms at all?) Nasser matched him on back and beat him on legs and from the front.
Anyone free from bias and an anti-Nasser agenda can see the obvious truth.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246289;image)
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Again the same excuses and ignoring of the fact that Nasser beat Yates that night.
'the photo helps Nasser'
'Yates is granite like but only in the flesh'
I have seen him in the flesh and Yates was gone. His stomach was bloated, he had no arms (how can a mr O have no arms at all?) Nasser matched him on back and beat him on legs and from the front.
Anyone free from bias and an anti-Nasser agenda can see the obvious truth.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246289;image)
Take it easy.. You're working yourself into a panic ..
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Some other comparison pics of Nasser and Yates. Yates had a better back and calves, but Nasser had a better "everything else."
I also threw in a Dillet comparison for m8 :)
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Some other comparison pics of Nasser and Yates. Yates had a better back and calves, but Nasser had a better "everything else."
I also threw in a Dillet comparison for m8 :)
look at Dillet's smooth thighs and awkward shape. M8 was just trolling when he threw him in the mix.
this one concerns me. you can be Mr O even with ZERO bicep. not small bicep, but no bicep. bicep left the country.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246296;image)
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'the photo helps Nasser'
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246289;image)
You take everything out of context and blatantly ignore facts when people present them.
The point of the post was that Nasser DOES beat Yates in the front double bi, but it's exaggerated by the pic, which it is. You just pull whatever parts you want out of other's posts to make your point. It's similar to how you keep posting that Yates had racist tatoos when it's been pointed out time and time again that those tatoos did not pertain to a racist sect of skinheads.
A better reply would counter the statement by pointing out why the pic DOESN"T help Nasser.
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Dorian looks like he's about to trip down the stairs, while Nasser takes his steps flawlessly ;D
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Dorian looks like he's about to trip down the stairs, while Nasser takes his steps flawlessly ;D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246307;image)
I mean look at Yates' midsection, it is all over the place. He actually looks very similar to Dave Palumbo here.
Anyone who knows anything about bodybuilding can see that Nasser clearly won the 1997 Mr O.
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from the front nasser all the way. but from the back dorian's got him beat.
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great shot of Nasser destroying Dorian from the back.
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I am going to ask you all to put aside all dislike you may have for me and my faith. put aside any dislike you have of the TEAM and of the great man himself and answer me this question. please do it honestly and fairly.
this is one of the few available direct comparison shots from the 1997 Olympia.
I will not even ask by how much but simply who, in all your honesty, look better?
thankyou for being honest friends
Nasser
Thanks for the question. This thread can now be locked. :)
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see what I mean?
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Now, onto a much more serious issue thats relevent in 2008! Would you rather his this or Nasser?
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Nasser
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see what I mean?
Are you implying that Yates invented Palumboism?
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Are you implying that Yates invented Palumboism?
The evidence is there for all to see. Alhtough Yates fanatics will tell you that even though he looks like shit in photos he, unlike anyone else, has this magic quality at the shows and that's he he stole Nasser's O with his torn arms and Palumbo gut
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The evidence is there for all to see. Alhtough Yates fanatics will tell you that even though he looks like shit in photos he, unlike anyone else, has this magic quality at the shows and that's he he stole Nasser's O with his torn arms and Palumbo gut
but you had to see him in person Sharma, he looked totally different in person. ::)
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Now, onto a much more serious issue thats relevent in 2008! Would you rather his this or Nasser?
Nasser.
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but you had to see him in person Sharma, he looked totally different in person. ::)
HAHA I feel better knowing that there are brave and honest guys like you around in the world who can see behind all this emperors new clothes nonsense.
the judges lost their nerve and gave him an outrageous gift
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HAHA I feel better knowing that there are brave and honest guys like you around in the world who can see behind all this emperors new clothes nonsense.
the judges lost their nerve and gave him an outrageous gift
happens all the time, a brave man who wouldn't suck the judges dicks and had a non American or British sounding name and you see what happens, Nasser owned Dorian physique wise every which way till Sunday and they gave it to the big bellied, 17 inch armed "shadow". ::)
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Another IFBB travesty. A bodybuilder is supposed to have all showing muscles developed to a marked degree without gaps and flaws. Dorian's arms are way down from 92-3. How they could award the top title to a guy with weak arms like that is a mystery. I know Dorian tore a biceps but he shouldn't have been able to win with a flaw like that. No wonder Nasser was pissed off. Who wouldn't be? &$^# the IFBB and the controversial decisions.
Nasser was robbed and Dorian was given a gift. He knows it, everyone knows it.
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Yates won the show
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yates won get over it nasser oil bag was never good enough to win it END OF STORY. if your gonna start a thread start it about him beating the shit outta his ex wife :-X
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yates won get over it nasser oil bag was never good enough to win it END OF STORY. if your gonna start a thread start it about him beating the shit outta his ex wife :-X
:o
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wow u can upload a photo in between bites, good work fatty ::)
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Now, onto a much more serious issue thats relevent in 2008! Would you rather his this or Nasser?
I was looking at this thread on my lap top while sitting next to my wife. She looked over at this picture and said, what the hell are you looking at.
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great shot of Mr.Ray destroying Dorian and Nasser from the back.
Fixed bud! ;)
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I am going to ask you all to put aside all dislike you may have for me and my faith. put aside any dislike you have of the TEAM and of the great man himself and answer me this question. please do it honestly and fairly.
this is one of the few available direct comparison shots from the 1997 Olympia.
I will not even ask by how much but simply who, in all your honesty, look better?
thankyou for being honest friends
lol people don't dislike you because of your fate. they dislike you because your an elitist jackass ;D
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I would like to thank most of you for being honest and not allowing your prejudice to affect your answer.
So far only one person has claimed that Yates looked better in 97 and he is well known for trolling and posting rugby players as better than bodybuilders.
The great Squadfather and bigbobs have also added to the damning evidence file with their photos that PROVE that Nasser was robbed.
At least 3 of Yates' Olympias were totally deserved. However, by 97 he was totally finished. He had amateur level quads, a distended and bloated gut , and no arms. I mean NO ARMS. I do not understand how the Mr Olympia can have no arms at all.
I find it telling that Nasser haters like bigworm refused to give an answer on even three times having been asked.
Bigworm, I ask you a 4th time. Who looks better and like the Mr O out of Yates and Nasser in this photo?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246289;image)
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Pictures do "lie" sometimes. Or, they are sometimes misleading. The body in motion paints and different picture.
I was at that show.
There was absolutely NO QUESTION Dorain won that. Everyone in the audience agreed.
It's now 11 years later and some Nassar fan is trying to make a point.
I'd rather win the show than have one of my flunkie cay for me on some message board 11 years later anyway.
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sharma, i don't like you or your religion of hate, but unlike yourself i have the ability to think critically, and in this case you are correct, nasser beats yates on that shot. i believe yates is stronger from the back, but everywhere else nasser owns him.
the other mro's were all dorians. 8)
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Nasser all the way...
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Nasser beats Dorian in the first pic of this thread.
"Hope this helps."
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sharma, i don't like you or your religion of hate, but unlike yourself i have the ability to think critically, and in this case you are correct, nasser beats yates on that shot. i believe yates is stronger from the back, but everywhere else nasser owns him.
the other mro's were all dorians. 8)
I respect that you can be honest enough to admit the truth about Nasser and Yates. I wish the likes of bigworm had your moral courage.
Allahu Akbar
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No doubt that Nasser looked great (from the front) but why the hell not wear contacts or glasses on stage. He looks like a cross eyed freak in all of his shots. ;D
(Insert Sharma Meltdown)
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No doubt that Nasser looked great (from the front) but why the hell not wear contacts or glasses on stage. He looks like a cross eyed freak in all of his shots. ;D
(Insert Sharma Meltdown)
he looked great from the back too. he owned Yates on all bodyparts and matched him on back that day . even calves. but even if we give the lats and calves to the tattooed keg then Nasser still won by a mile.
I think the cross eyed issue is immaterial. the eyes is not part of the judging. only really a fag or homo is over concerned with the man's looks and features.
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he looked great from the back too. he owned Yates on all bodyparts and matched him on back that day . even calves. but even if we give the lats and calves to the tattooed keg then Nasser still won by a mile.
I think the cross eyed issue is immaterial. the eyes is not part of the judging. only really a fag or homo is over concerned with the man's looks and features.
Only a "Real Fag" would be on the preferred members for his used/pre-worn underwear collection...... What color are you wearing/posting in today, tigerstripes? LOL!!!!
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Only a "Real Fag" would be on the preferred members for his used/pre-worn underwear collection...... What color are you wearing/posting in today, tigerstripes? LOL!!!!
Oh my, a Nasser underwear joke. that is so very original of you.
well done on admitting that 1997 was a disgrace to NAasser. I have emailed Yates 3 times about this and he never answers despite my urging him to come clean and do the honorable thing and admit it was a steal.
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ask yourself... what would LEE! do...
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only really a fag or homo is over concerned with the man's looks and features.
Here's your quote on how handsome you think Nassar is...fag
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=197301.msg2719133#msg2719133
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Here's your quote on how handsome you think Nassar is...fag
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=197301.msg2719133#msg2719133
yes i think Nasser is a handsome man. only in a sick and perverted culture such as yours is that gay or fag.
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i've met Nasser twice at shows and i can say that each time i saw him he had at least 3 beautiful women hanging on him, women are very attracted to him
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i've met Nasser twice at shows and i can say that each time i saw him he had at least 3 beautiful women hanging on him, women are very attracted to him
Squad it is crazy how these bitches are crazy for Nasser. To them he is probably the perfect male specimen as he has tremendous strength and muscularity, a great brain and he is very funny and witty.
Brains and brawn!
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i've met Nasser twice at shows and i can say that each time i saw him he had at least 3 beautiful women hanging on him, women are very attracted to him
he was paying them for sure,
then afterwards he would beat the shit outta them :-X
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this is one of the few available direct comparison shots from the 1997 Olympia.
I will not even ask by how much but simply who, in all your honesty, look better?
The show is not won on a single pose, or part of one. If you judge that shot purely as a biceps shot then Nasser wins. Add the rest of the physique into the argument and it's very close. Dorian has better lars, abs, probably thighs and certainly calves. But for your argument we'll say Nasser wins.
Now they went into the front lat spread. Dorian a clear winner.
Side chest. Dorian wins again.
Side triceps. Clear winner. The only person who has ever come close to Dorian in that shot is Alexander Federov but he wasn't competing :-)
Back double biceps. Dorian wins.
Rear lat spread. Dorian wins
Abbs and thigh. Dorian wins.
Thank you gentleman. that concludes the prejudging.
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The show is not won on a single pose, or part of one. If you judge that shot purely as a biceps shot then Nasser wins. Add the rest of the physique into the argument and it's very close. Dorian has better lars, abs, probably thighs and certainly calves. But for your argument we'll say Nasser wins.
Now they went into the front lat spread. Dorian a clear winner.
Side chest. Dorian wins again.
Side triceps. Clear winner. The only person who has ever come close to Dorian in that shot is Alexander Federov but he wasn't competing :-)
Back double biceps. Dorian wins.
Rear lat spread. Dorian wins
Abbs and thigh. Dorian wins.
Thank you gentleman. that concludes the prejudging.
hahahhahaaa, more Flex magazine bullshit, who wins here Kev?
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hahahhahaaa, more Flex magazine bullshit, who wins here Kev?
Nothing to do with Flex. I haven't worked for them for months.
Dorian wins the first shot
Close call in the second shot. Focus on the biceps and it's Nasser. Judge the complete physique and it's much closer but I'll give it to Nasser.
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The show is not won on a single pose, or part of one. If you judge that shot purely as a biceps shot then Nasser wins. Add the rest of the physique into the argument and it's very close. Dorian has better lars, abs, probably thighs and certainly calves. But for your argument we'll say Nasser wins.
Now they went into the front lat spread. Dorian a clear winner.
Side chest. Dorian wins again.
Side triceps. Clear winner. The only person who has ever come close to Dorian in that shot is Alexander Federov but he wasn't competing :-)
Back double biceps. Dorian wins.
Rear lat spread. Dorian wins
Abbs and thigh. Dorian wins.
Thank you gentleman. that concludes the prejudging.
DORIAN"S LEGS WERE BETTER THAN NASSER"S IN 1997 ??????????????????
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME ?????????????
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/14572-4/1997-mr-olympia-62.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=d5542f985824531bbd08e7667cdabc82)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/14976-3/1997-mr-olympia-110.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=d5542f985824531bbd08e7667cdabc82)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/14948-4/1997-mr-olympia-103.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=d5542f985824531bbd08e7667cdabc82)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/14944-4/1997-mr-olympia-102.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=d5542f985824531bbd08e7667cdabc82)
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(http://www.joe0.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/Jean-Pierre-Fux-5.jpg)
owns all...
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While we're playing the "what if" game -
"What if" Shawn Ray/Labrada/Wheeler/Levrone had gotten the placings they deserved? What if Dillet/Wheeler had more discipline? What if nazi germany won WW2?
If DCN was that good what happened after Dorian stepped down? His placings got steadlily worse
1997 Mr. Olympia, 2nd - Yates last year.
1998 Mr. Olympia, 3rd - Ronnie Coleman era begins
1999 Mr. Olympia, 6th
2000 Mr. Olympia, 5th
2001 Mr. Olympia, 9th
2002 Arnold Classic, 10th
2002 Mr. Olympia, 15th
2004 Night of Champions, 15th
2004 Show of Strength Pro Championship, 14th
2005 Europa Supershow, 14th - DCN retires.
Trying to re-live history with "what if this happened" or "that occurred?" is the dream of idiots. Its done and over with. Deal with it. At the end of the day Nasser lost - period. At least cutler had the staying power to battle ronnie for years until he finally overtook him.
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Nothing to do with Flex. I haven't worked for them for months.
Dorian wins the first shot
Close call in the second shot. Focus on the biceps and it's Nasser. Judge the complete physique and it's much closer but I'll give it to Nasser.
Squad = owned
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The show is not won on a single pose, or part of one. If you judge that shot purely as a biceps shot then Nasser wins. Add the rest of the physique into the argument and it's very close. Dorian has better lars, abs, probably thighs and certainly calves. But for your argument we'll say Nasser wins.
Now they went into the front lat spread. Dorian a clear winner.
Side chest. Dorian wins again.
Side triceps. Clear winner. The only person who has ever come close to Dorian in that shot is Alexander Federov but he wasn't competing :-)
Back double biceps. Dorian wins.
Rear lat spread. Dorian wins
Abbs and thigh. Dorian wins.
Thank you gentleman. that concludes the prejudging.
That hiss you hear is the hopes and dreams of Sharma, Inc. dying in the wind.
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I guess when a career is over the regrets start and the anger increases if an injustice prevented someone from trancending himself to another level.
Judging contests is a difficult process if the competition is close. However, when comparing two competitors if one has a complete physique and the other has a torn muscle the contest is over. No point saying the guy with the torn biceps looks better in some poses. So what, he hasn't got a complete physique. Too many guys win with missing parts. Ronnie had weak calves and Dorian had a hole in his biceps. I have torn a biceps so I sympathize with him. However, that is no excuse and he shouldn't have been placed in the top 3.
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I guess when a career is over the regrets start and the anger increases if an injustice prevented someone from trancending himself to another level.
Judging contests is a difficult process if the competition is close. However, when comparing two competitors if one has a complete physique and the other has a torn muscle the contest is over. No point saying the guy with the torn biceps looks better in some poses. So what, he hasn't got a complete physique. Too many guys win with missing parts. Ronnie had weak calves and Dorian had a hole in his biceps. I have torn a biceps so I sympathize with him. However, that is no excuse and he shouldn't have been placed in the top 3.
Yeah you have a point its not like Nasser was missing an entire back ::)
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I'm not a Ronnie or Dorian guy, but Vince just said basically the reason why he DOESN'T judge contests. You DON'T mark someone down as much as Vince is suggesting, simply because they have a torn muscle. Dorian still had half the bicep there, so he does get points marked down on symmtetry, as anyone would who has a muscle which is doesnt match up to the same muscle on the other side of the body. To suggest he should be 3rd is ludacris. If you judge by that logic, then put Jay 3rd, as his biceps are very umsymmetrical.
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I guess when a career is over the regrets start and the anger increases if an injustice prevented someone from trancending himself to another level.
Judging contests is a difficult process if the competition is close. However, when comparing two competitors if one has a complete physique and the other has a torn muscle the contest is over. No point saying the guy with the torn biceps looks better in some poses. So what, he hasn't got a complete physique. Too many guys win with missing parts. Ronnie had weak calves and Dorian had a hole in his biceps. I have torn a biceps so I sympathize with him. However, that is no excuse and he shouldn't have been placed in the top 3.
I don't think there has ever been a complete physique - was yours?
You should judge what you can see, so how much of a torn biceps can be seen in a rear lat spread?
It's also pointless to judge from photos taken from an angle during the compulsories. Perspective plays havoc and rarely are the athletes holding the pose at the same time.
Saying that Ronnie shouldn't have won all those Sandows because he had weak calves is possibly the most stupid statement I've heard in relation to bodybuilding.
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Judging criteria hasn't been set in stone so there are always some differences when it comes to what various factors count and so on.
Let me be candid. Biceps are the most obvious muscle bodybuilders have. If you have a torn biceps then your most impressive muscle isn't top class. How can you claim to be the best bodybuilder in the world with arms like that? Sorry, but having half a biceps is not worthy of winning a contest especially against others who are more complete. The flaw is very important and counts for quite a bit.
Many seem to ignor weak calves but the same thing should happen there.
Nasser is clearly without any flaws like Dorian had. End of story.
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Judging criteria hasn't been set in stone so there are always some differences when it comes to what various factors count and so on.
Let me be candid. Biceps are the most obvious muscle bodybuilders have. If you have a torn biceps then your most impressive muscle isn't top class. How can you claim to be the best bodybuilder in the world with arms like that? Sorry, but having half a biceps is not worthy of winning a contest especially against others who are more complete. The flaw is very important and counts for quite a bit.
Many seem to ignor weak calves but the same thing should happen there.
Nasser is clearly without any flaws like Dorian had. End of story.
Nasser's back was much more of a liability than having one bicep shorter than the other , couple that with less than stellar conditioning and suspect aftermarket oil enhancements and its a no brainer .
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Judging criteria hasn't been set in stone so there are always some differences when it comes to what various factors count and so on.
Let me be candid. Biceps are the most obvious muscle bodybuilders have. If you have a torn biceps then your most impressive muscle isn't top class. How can you claim to be the best bodybuilder in the world with arms like that? Sorry, but having half a biceps is not worthy of winning a contest especially against others who are more complete. The flaw is very important and counts for quite a bit.
Many seem to ignor weak calves but the same thing should happen there.
Nasser is clearly without any flaws like Dorian had. End of story.
Hehe. You checked out the truce thread, Vince? ;)
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hahahhahaaa, more Flex magazine bullshit, who wins here Kev?
RAY ALL THE WAY!!!
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Like I say I respect all your opinion and if you truly believe that Dorian beats Nasser in 97 I have to accept that and just disagree as strongly as possible.
I would have to say though that I cannot accept that Dorian beats Nasser in Abs and thighs. From the front Dorian has the pitiful, atrophied legs of an AIDS man. his stomach is disgusting and full of kittens.
I believe that Nasser owned the tattooed reformed racist in 96 and 97. I don't beleive that Nasser was given a fair deal in both those years.
last time, the evidences (thanks to Squad and bigbobs for pictures):
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246289;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246311;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246512;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246513;image)
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respect for the uncrowned mr olympia-nasser el sonbaty
respect for the wizard of truth-nasser el sonbaty
300lbs with abs..feel the love generation...team nasser 08
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Sharma...you present some compelling arguments.
It'd likely do you well to let it go at this point.
Nothing can or will change from all of the hullaballoo, yes?
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nasser beats dorian on amont of oil used
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Sharma...you present some compelling arguments.
It'd likely do you well to let it go at this point.
Nothing can or will change from all of the hullaballoo, yes?
No, we cannot change history but it is right and correct that most fans who maybe did not know of just how bad the decision to give Yates a Sandow in 97 was, are fully aware.
Ultimately it is their sport, they fuel it and fund it and it was a deeply intelligent and dedicated man's career that was harmed by him not winning the Mr Olympia his body totally deserved.
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Well, I don't know.
Do you really think Nasser was ruined by not winning one show...one day out of many thousands of days lived?
There are so many other forums and ways to become successful. He's has probably just forgotten it and moved on, no?
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No, Nasser was in no way 'ruined'. He is a very rich man with much cars and real estate. However, he would have had an even more amazing career and earning potential if he was a former Mr Olympia. His body won the competition but the judges like cowardly roaches hand the title to a man who was broken, his body had defeated him - pregnant with kittens, no arms, bird legs etc.
Finally, where else discuss bodybuilding and Mr Olympia if not on a bodybuilding forum?
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Well, if Nasser is as wealthy as you say, I think you are overselling the value of a Mr. O win in his case.
I don't think it'd make much of a difference in his portfolio.
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Well, if Nasser is as wealthy as you say, I think you are overselling the value of a Mr. O win in his case.
I don't think it'd make much of a difference in his portfolio.
a Mr. Olympia crown is worth more than money, you can legitimitley call yourself the best in the world for a year and Nasser was robbed of it twice.
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Perhaps, but in marketing, which is what the smart competitors do with themselves...it is more perception than reality.
Labrada never won the O, but obviously has become wildly successful with his company, as has Gaspari.
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Perhaps, but in marketing, which is what the smart competitors do with themselves...it is more perception than reality.
Labrada never won the O, but obviously has become wildly successful with his company, as has Gaspari.
yeah but i'll GAURANTEE if you ask him he'd tell you it's the one thing he'd want from his bb career more than anything else.
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Yeah, I'd probably want the same, too, squad...
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I can't belive that someone is even questioning why a professional bodybuilder wouldn't care about being cheated out of the title that represents the pinnacle of achievement and success within that industry.
Why even bother training, dieting, taking 'supplements' that many treat as a necessary evil. Why bother if it means so little mossejay.
stupid question, of course it matters if something is fixed and a fraud.
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this is probably the clearest picture of Nasser's total domination of Yates that you'll see, it literally looks like Mr. Olympia standing next to the NPC jr. Nationals heavyweight winner, look at the difference in arm and leg mass, ridiculous. :o
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and for you "Dorian dominated from the back" nuthuggers, suck on this, BAAAAAAAANNNNGGGGGG :o
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Well, Sharma....please spare me the rancor.
I have no interest in getting into loggerheads with you. You are okay with me as far as I am coincerned.
You are missing what I was inferring.
I didn't mean to imply that he did not care.
However....
I personally heard Flex Wheeler answer a group of young bodybuilders who asked him what he would be doing after his competitive career was over.
His reply was something like:
"Hell...you will never see me in the gym again. I hate lifting weights..."
Now, there is an 'IFBB Pro' who could give a F--- about winning the big one.
Although I never said this would translate to the feelings of all pros, it may be emblematic of some.
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and for you "Dorian dominated from the back" nuthuggers, suck on this, BAAAAAAAANNNNGGGGGG :o
what are you still doing here you were meant to delete your account fat boy
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what are you still doing here you were meant to delete your account fat boy
hahahhahaa, i said if you look better and you're skinny and small, so ........................ .i'm still here. :D
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I am going to ask you all to put aside all dislike you may have for me and my faith. put aside any dislike you have of the TEAM and of the great man himself and answer me this question. please do it honestly and fairly.
this is one of the few available direct comparison shots from the 1997 Olympia.
I will not even ask by how much but simply who, in all your honesty, look better?
thankyou for being honest friends
As you may be aware, bodybuilding shows are judged by more than one pose or one comparrison.
Are you asking who is a better bodybuilder and deserved to win the show? Or just who looks better in that "one " pic?
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hahahhahaa, i said if you look better and you're skinny and small, so ........................ .i'm still here. :D
why dont we have a poll,
you no i look better than you that photo is 2 years old and im still better,
keep eating you fat shit
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and for you "Dorian dominated from the back" nuthuggers, suck on this, BAAAAAAAANNNNGGGGGG :o
The fact that you think for a moment Dorian is losing this shot speaks volumes on how little you know about competitive bodybuilding .
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why dont we have a poll,
you no i look better than you that photo is 2 years old and im still better,
keep eating you fat shit
Better? you look like Arnold to his Danny Devito
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a Mr. Olympia crown is worth more than money, you can legitimitley call yourself the best in the world for a year and Nasser was robbed of it twice.
"crown" ? oh brother get a life
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why dont we have a poll,
you no i look better than you that photo is 2 years old and im still better,
keep eating you fat shit
You just ruin threads about Nasser with your moronic shit. It seems that Nasser fucked your head.
And no, you do not look better than SF at all. he looks like he lifts weights and you do not. you look like you do running and pushups with your lifetime partner, Rupert
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As you may be aware, bodybuilding shows are judged by more than one pose or one comparrison.
Are you asking who is a better bodybuilder and deserved to win the show? Or just who looks better in that "one " pic?
I know exactly what are the (supposed )judging criteria for bodybuilding shows. I have posted that pic and many others. In all of them Nasser dominates Yates.
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YATES !!!
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You just ruin threads about Nasser with your moronic shit. It seems that Nasser fucked your head.
And no, you do not look better than SF at all. he looks like he lifts weights and you do not. you look like you do running and pushups with your lifetime partner, Rupert
im suprised you can type with nasser dick in you mouth, get a life and stop worshipping an oil bag wife beating poof
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I know exactly what are the (supposed )judging criteria for bodybuilding shows. I have posted that pic and many others. In all of them Nasser dominates Yates.
Lets entertain he won the front double biceps shot , o.k. and we'll give him the ab-thigh he loses every other pose to Yates so all you're crying was for not
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Better? you look like Arnold to his Danny Devito
hahaha thanks
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Lets entertain he won the front double biceps shot , o.k. and we'll give him the ab-thigh he loses every other pose to Yates so all you're crying was for not
and back double biceps as Dorian has zero biceps. his biceps were not actually attached to his arm, they were relaxing on a beach in Mexico. Side chest, again, no arms - we can go on until the point is made that having no arms ruins every pose.
I know that you love Yates but I also know that you are knowledgable man when not clouded by bias towards the Yates you love and the Nasser you hate.
in the 1997 Mr Olympia Nasser had Dorian beaten. It was unlucky for the tattooed keg to tear his arms but he cannot be awarded the prize out of sympathy. again, look at his arms. please.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246289;image)
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and back double biceps as Dorian has zero biceps. his biceps were not actually attached to his arm, they were relaxing on a beach in Mexico. Side chest, again, no arms.
I know that you love Yates but I also know that you are knowledgable man when not clouded by bias towards the Yates you love and the Nasser you hate.
in the 1997 Mr Olympia Nasser had Dorian beaten. It was unlucky for the tattooed keg to tear his arms but he cannot be awarded the prize out of sympathy. again, look at his arms. please.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246289;image
Again you're the biggest fan-boy of them all ! and you knitpick on biceps in the back double biceps shot how about an entire back? lol get serious Nasser should have pushed Yates to a closer finish but make no mistake he wasn't winning with suck a massive liability for a back.
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nasser really went all out to fill those arms up with as much oil as possible, what a pity he still didn't win
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Nasser bowing down to Yates' victory admitting the obvious , Yates was the clear cut winner.
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nasser really went all out to fill those arms up with as much oil as possible, what a pity he still didn't win
if the arms were less obvious it would have looked better for nasser
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if the arms we less obvious it would have looked better for nasser
for sure, but nasser is a complete loser and he thought noone would notice, i think thats when he started beating the shit outts his wife after this show ;D
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Ok, fine Narsitic deity. i have seen you go on and on for many hundreds of pages and spending thousands of hours defending Yates. I have not many posts and simply say what I think. There is little point in discussing anything with you ND as you only want to argue , like you do with Hulster. You simply ignore the pictoral evidence and talk about Nasser's back. Let me tell you something, Nasser's back was not weak at all in 96,97 or 98. You just choose to retrograde the (supposed) decline in Nasser's back.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246512;image)
you don't really want to debate bodybuilding, just smack talk with people.most intelligent people I speak to know that Nasser won in 97, despite any dislike of the man and love of Yates. I am sorry you are so biased and blinkered you have to ignore what your eyes tell you and what you know is true in your heart.
I genuinely feel sorry for you in this.
Yaa Allah
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Is Sharma your real name? Where are you from, and are you really
Nasser muslim?
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Is Sharma your real name? Where are you from, and are you really Nasser muslim?
No. He prays to the green horse, being ridden by Gary Busey.
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Ok, fine Narsitic deity. i have seen you go on and on for many hundreds of pages and spending thousands of hours defending Yates. I have not many posts and simply say what I think. There is little point in discussing anything with you ND as you only want to argue , like you do with Hulster. You simply ignore the pictoral evidence and talk about Nasser's back. Let me tell you something, Nasser's back was not weak at all in 96,97 or 98. You just choose to retrograde the (supposed) decline in Nasser's back.
you don't really want to debate bodybuilding, just smack talk with people.most intelligent people I speak to know that Nasser won in 97, despite any dislike of the man and love of Yates. I am sorry you are so biased and blinkered you have to ignore what your eyes tell you and what you know is true in your heart.
I genuinely feel sorry for you in this.
Yaa Allah
I'm debating with you , I'm working with you hell I said give Nasser the front double biceps and the ab-thigh he still loses all the other poses and as far as the back is concerned , it sucked and got progressively worse , it's a shame when your back was better when you were lighter
oh and BTW Yates was out of the picture in 1998 what was your excuse why Nasser lost? what place was he in again? yeah I thought so lol
3 years his back gets wider and thats IT looks like someone took an eraser to it lol Nasser couldn't maintain his back with extra size that was his downfall .
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for sure, but nasser is a complete loser and he thought noone would notice, i think thats when he started beating the shit outts his wife after this show ;D
who on earth got him to think arms like that were natural and realistically possible?
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who on earth got him to think arms like that were natural and realistically possible?
i think his wife, thats what started the beatings :-X
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oh and BTW Yates was out of the picture in 1998 what was your excuse why Nasser lost? what place was he in again? yeah I thought so lol
3 years his back gets wider and thats IT looks like someone took an eraser to it lol Nasser couldn't maintain his back with extra size that was his downfall .
This is exactly why you end up having giant threads and have a reputation on Getbig of ruining threads with repetitive arguments.
We are not talking about 1998; we are talking about 1997 and why Nasser was runne rup to Yates when his physique was better.
We are not talking about Nasser's back between 94-97 , we are talking about the fact that it was at a level very much on a par with Yates in 96 and 97 as this photo (you fearfully and wisely ignore) shows:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246512;image)
Stop dodging the questions and desperately trying to chang the subject and switch focus. Nasser's back development is actually great that Yates' here.
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This is exactly why you end up having giant threads and have a reputation on Getbig of ruining threads with repetitive arguments.
We are not talking about 1998; we are talking about 1997 and why Nasser was runne rup to Yates when his physique was better.
We are not talking about Nasser's back between 94-97 , we are talking about the fact that it was at a level very much on a par with Yates in 96 and 97 as this photo (you fearfully and wisely ignore) shows:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246512;image)
Stop dodging the questions and desperately trying to chang the subject and switch focus. Nasser's back development is actually great that Yates' here.
yawn I addressed all your claims ! and like your dumb comrade squad the fact that you think Nasser is comparable to Dorian in this particular shot shows exactly why you think Nasser won , you haven't the slightest clue on what you're looking at , and FYI that particular shot is from 1996 NOT 1997 and Dorian's back is leaps & bounds better than Nassers its not even up for debate and nonsense to the contrary will only be laughed off
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yawn I addressed all your claims ! and like your dumb comrade squad the fact that you think Nasser is comparable to Dorian in this particular shot shows exactly why you think Nasser won , you haven't the slightest clue on what you're looking at , and FYI that particular shot is from 1996 NOT 1997 and Dorian's back is leaps & bounds better than Nassers its not even up for debate and nonsense to the contrary will only be laughed off
I know exactly when that picture was taken and I know a lot more about IFBB judging than some armchair pundit who sits on his backside all day, on his computer, looking at pictures.
You cannot offer any reasons to substantiate you assertion that Yates' back is so much better. However, the point of the picture is that it demonstrates that Nasser's back in 96 and 97 was on a level similar to Yates'. Nasser had Yates beaten on all other bodyparts.
I will not bother to respond as your replies are always the same : 'you can't judge properly' (like you've ever judged an IFBB show HAHAHAHA) 'you're crazy if you think that' etc.. It may work with hulkster - until he eventually defeated you and you ran away- but most don't engage with you anymore
I leave you with the evidence ;D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246289;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246311;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246512;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246513;image)
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are Nasser and Yates the same length?
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I know exactly when that picture was taken and I know a lot more about IFBB judging than some armchair pundit who sits on his backside all day, on his computer, looking at pictures.
You cannot offer any reasons to substantiate you assertion that Yates' back is so much better. However, the point of the picture is that it demonstrates that Nasser's back in 96 and 97 was on a level similar to Yates'. Nasser had Yates beaten on all other bodyparts.
I will not bother to respond as your replies are always the same : 'you can't judge properly' (like you've ever judged an IFBB show HAHAHAHA) 'you're crazy if you think that' etc.. It may work with hulkster - until he eventually defeated you and you ran away- but most don't engage with you anymore
I leave you with the evidence ;D
I know exactly when that picture was taken and I know a lot more about IFBB judging than some armchair pundit who sits on his backside all day, on his computer, looking at pictures.
You don't know anything about competitive bodybuilding , especially when you keep posting one shot and claiming Nasser won the whole contest
You cannot offer any reasons to substantiate you assertion that Yates' back is so much better. However, the point of the picture is that it demonstrates that Nasser's back in 96 and 97 was on a level similar to Yates'. Nasser had Yates beaten on all other bodyparts.
Again nonsense I addressed exactly how and why Dorian's back is so much better many moons ago , you being the delusional guy you are glossed right over them because you couldn't counter the facts. Nasser's back was NEVER ever on a ' similar ' level to Dorian's this statement alone shows how little you know about physique assessment , you're retarded to claim otherwise . the ONLY and I mean only thing that is similar is width which isn't saying much because Yates was lighter , and body parts DO NOT win contests ! you'd know this if you had any idea on how competitive bodybuilding contests were judged .
It has a set criteria and all rounds are physique rounds , but you know this already because you know ' alot more about IFBB judging " lol
I will not bother to respond as your replies are always the same : 'you can't judge properly' (like you've ever judged an IFBB show HAHAHAHA) 'you're crazy if you think that' etc.. It may work with hulkster - until he eventually defeated you and you ran away- but most don't engage with you anymore
Of course you wont bother to respond to me because you'll get your ass kicked like Hulkster did , and the irony of you saying my replies are always the same lol you're the biggest racist troll on here ;) and Hulkster defeated me? ::) I have two quotes from his own hero saying he couldn't defeat Dorian so yeah I thought so ;) I knew you were a gimmick account from the onset but with this post alone you revealed yourself lol
and man how pathetic can you get? lol so like Ronnie , Nasser couldn't beat Yates so you and all the other losers can group hug and find comfort in excuses .
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word
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to be honest shawn ray is KILLIN both nasser and dorian in that front db
but yeah its obvious from the pics that nasser completely owns dorian in every singly category except triceps and calves.
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to be honest shawn ray is KILLIN both nasser and dorian in that front db
but yeah its obvious from the pics that nasser completely owns dorian in every singly category except triceps and calves.
i agree with much of what you say but the chihuahua was simply too small and dinky to win the show. he was even dwarfed by the torn, tattooed keg.
good points on the Nasser Yates comparison though
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HE! is Sharma Nasser's middle name!?!!!
Sharma = Nasser!
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson317.htm (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson317.htm)
Or some silly bloke who read the above article (and memorised it..) to spam the getbigboard...
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Nasser should feel pissed off, be gratefull this contest was not held after 9/11 or he would not have been in the top 6.
Correct me if im wrong but did Dorian win with perfect scores if so POLOTICS
Had the scores been very close there could be an argument for Dorian winning. But i do no think this is the case.
Personally i thought there was a hair in it with Nasser winning from the front the side a toss up and from the back Dorian winning.
I guess you had to be at the contest in the first few rows to make an accurate assesment.
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I leave you with the evidence ;D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246289;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246311;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246512;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246513;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=210680.0;attach=246805;image)
Ok, you've convinced us; Nasser probably deserved the O. However,this was 11 years ago now.
A guy got stiffed in a beauty pageant, thems the breaks.
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ha ha
Is that fool sharma still here trying to swing from DCN's nutsack? Now he thinks he's qualified to judge the Olympia ::) and just got owned royally by ND.
Here's some classic posing from that renowned bellybuilder Delusional Fraud Nasser.
(http://img36.picoodle.com/img/img36/4/4/7/dalkiel/f_vlcsnap8138m_b00e757.png)
Nasshole has had so many surgeries a hospital wing should be named after him. A sad picture of a bitter wife beating drug addict lurking around Getbig too afraid to speak for himself and sends his bootlickers to defend his rotting carcass.
(http://img30.picoodle.com/img/img30/4/4/7/dalkiel/f_drobson322fm_35565ca.jpg)
Kudos to Jim Lorimer from banning that worthless bloated pig from the ASC.
;D
Feel free to vent and melt "Sharma". ;D
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Ok, you've convinced us; Nasser probably deserved the O. However,this was 11 years ago now.
A guy got stiffed in a beauty pageant, thems the breaks.
It may only be a beauty contest to you but to Nasser this was his chosen career. Don;t forget that he the most intelligent human being to ever grace the sport. He could have been a doctor or lawyer, something more high brow than bodybuilder. it was not like he was forced into it like most of the trailer trash retard fags and convicted criminals , like Yates. He had choices and choose this only to find serious corruption defraud him and affect his career and thus earning potential.
Also many of the judges actually had Yates in 3rd and 4th place but their scorecards were not used , I wonder why?
Better for us to read Nasser's own words :
I had the better waist (also the best V-taper, shoulders/waistline), better and tighter abs, paper thin skin, better triceps, better biceps, better shoulders, better chest, better hams, and better quads. I was tighter, harder and fresher in appearance (because I did not have a couple of week-old triceps tears which had not even been attempted to have been fixed surgically, otherwise Yates wouldn't have been able to step on stage).
Then I heard the big BS - "... but Dorian had him (Nasser) from the back." The only body part I give Yates when he supposedly had me was his tremendous lower back development but not his thickness or back width.
The Olympia is not a lower back contest. An Olympia title is not to be given out to the best lower back - otherwise why do all of us still train all of the other body parts?
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Shouldn't have posted the link..
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I am going to ask you all to put aside all dislike you may have for me and my faith. put aside any dislike you have of the TEAM and of the great man himself and answer me this question. please do it honestly and fairly.
this is one of the few available direct comparison shots from the 1997 Olympia.
I will not even ask by how much but simply who, in all your honesty, look better?
thankyou for being honest friends
you and your faith? Who are you ::)
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Shouldn't have posted the link..
HAHAHA It was Nasser's article that led me to getbig, not other way round. I read this maybe a thousand times.
read it, wizard of truth can educate you
My general opinion of that show, the 1997 two-day Olympia, is that I got robbed live in front of thousands of people but with no consequences for anyone but me and a few judges who did not judge according to that which was expected of them, that what was suggested to them.
If I would have won the Olympia back then, I would have won it for a couple more years straight with the body, dedication, drive, willpower and desire I had at that time. I got robbed for at least five million U.S. dollars - to give a low number estimate when I am counting all the missed endorsements and opportunities connected to the Olympia title. I got so badly cheated. My trust will never ever be the same. The lost trust is beyond possible repair.
From the six Mr. Olympia titles Yates got, I do believe that he just deserved to win half of them. An Anglo-Saxon name and a Peter McGough in the Weider office in Woodland Hills, California was definitely a good investment from Yates's side regarding his titles and his aspirations. And if Yates didn't have so much pressure on him after the '97 Olympia, Yates would have tried to compete again at the 1998 Olympia in New York City. For sure Yates would have expected another Olympia title with possibly an even more fixed up and deteriorated physique.
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HE! is Sharma Nasser's middle name!?!!!
Sharma = Nasser!
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson317.htm (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson317.htm)
Or some silly bloke who read the above article (and memorised it..) to spam the getbigboard...
I read this maybe a thousand times.
That's what I said....
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HAHAHA It was Nasser's article that led me to getbig, not other way round. I read this maybe a thousand times.
read it, wizard of truth can educate you
My general opinion of that show, the 1997 two-day Olympia, is that I got robbed live in front of thousands of people but with no consequences for anyone but me and a few judges who did not judge according to that which was expected of them, that what was suggested to them.
If I would have won the Olympia back then, I would have won it for a couple more years straight with the body, dedication, drive, willpower and desire I had at that time. I got robbed for at least five million U.S. dollars - to give a low number estimate when I am counting all the missed endorsements and opportunities connected to the Olympia title. I got so badly cheated. My trust will never ever be the same. The lost trust is beyond possible repair.
From the six Mr. Olympia titles Yates got, I do believe that he just deserved to win half of them. An Anglo-Saxon name and a Peter McGough in the Weider office in Woodland Hills, California was definitely a good investment from Yates's side regarding his titles and his aspirations. And if Yates didn't have so much pressure on him after the '97 Olympia, Yates would have tried to compete again at the 1998 Olympia in New York City. For sure Yates would have expected another Olympia title with possibly an even more fixed up and deteriorated physique.
Nasser should be called The Wizard of Truth after that article, right on the money.
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Hah!!! Nasser never aspired to be a doctor or a lawyer. What a laugh..although with his numerous visits to the surgery room he probably should have at least majored in pharmacy ;D
What did he major in? History and Sociology. Subjects that have no real world application apart from teaching and research. For every Engineer, Doctor, and Business degrees there are 3 times as many students that take these "easy" subjects like literature, history,sociology, etc. All it requires is reading and the ability to construct a decent paper. There are plenty of these literature and history MA students that are waiting tables waiting for their big break. :D. Its a nice way to coast through college and earn a degree that has no real world application. The only people impressed by these degrees are those who never attended college in the first place. No wonder "sharma" thinks a MA in history is equal to a law degree. ::)
If it hadnt been for Joe Weiders generosity Nasser would still be assembling cars or waiting tables in germany. The Weiders helped Nasshole relocate to the US and supported him financially. I'm sure Joe and Ben "collected" their dues from DCN in other ways ;)
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haha sharma so sue for loss of income potential
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Nasser should be called The Wizard of Truth after that article, right on the money.
After this post ..You should be called "The Sucker Of C0cks".
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After this post ..You should be called "The Sucker Of C0cks".
lol :D
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An impartial judge wouldn't have let Dorian win in 97.
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Interesting to revisit this thread and see that even then the blind even when cured of their blindness, refused to see.
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Dorian was given the most gift wins of any Olympia winner
here's the rightful winners
92 Levrone
93 Wheeler beats Yates best- go back and look @ the pics, this is wheeler's best olympia
94 a razor sharp and on shawn ray kills a way off condition yates with all the symmetry flaws
95 Levrone or Nasser for the win
96 1.Nasser 2. ray 3. coleman, 4. yates
97 Nasser
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you shouldnt win an olympia because you have ONE dominant pose the BDB
in that pose, Yates is beating Nasser only becos Yates back is drier and more seperated
Nasser's back is wider and as thick in the RLS
Nasser clearly beating yates in all other mandatory poses
in fact Ray should have been awarded 2nd to Nasser in 1997
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about this phantom book...
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show me some back shots
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the oily drug addicted felon hands down
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I am going to ask you all to put aside all dislike you may have for me and my faith. put aside any dislike you have of the TEAM and of the great man himself and answer me this question. please do it honestly and fairly.
this is one of the few available direct comparison shots from the 1997 Olympia.
I will not even ask by how much but simply who, in all your honesty, look better?
thankyou for being honest friends
yates sucks in that shot torn muscles galore should have stayed home, oh yeah wait he won didn't he?
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I am going to ask you all to put aside all dislike you may have for me and my faith. put aside any dislike you have of the TEAM and of the great man himself and answer me this question. please do it honestly and fairly.
this is one of the few available direct comparison shots from the 1997 Olympia.
I will not even ask by how much but simply who, in all your honesty, look better?
thankyou for being honest friends
Shawn Ray in the back! ;D
Seriously, Nasser beats Dorian in this pose by far.
I think he or Shawn should've won this Olympia, not Dorian.
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I'd forgotten those shopped Nasser pics. Bobs did so much quick 'splaining I'll bet he was dizzy.
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I am going to ask you all to put aside all dislike you may have for me and my faith. put aside any dislike you have of the TEAM and of the great man himself and answer me this question. please do it honestly and fairly.
this is one of the few available direct comparison shots from the 1997 Olympia.
I will not even ask by how much but simply who, in all your honesty, look better?
thankyou for being honest friends
I haven't read through any of posts yet because it's like 7 pages and will probably be a rehash of the same old stuff. I don't think some, if not most, will give you an honest answer. There just seems to be too much emotional baggage with this whole subject. For me, I didn't even follow BB during the Nasser/Yates era so I was pretty neutral to this whole debate. I never understood the hate for Team Nasser. To me there's nothing wrong with being a fan. Even a rabid one. I do like the way you guys stick together and just keep plugging away. You're not going to let anybody push you around. Even though it seems most are against you. I'm not that big of a fan of Pro BB so it's not really my thing but it's no skin off my nose. If anything Team Nasser has made me appreciate Nasser so much more. He did get screwed in this sport/pagent. But so did some others. I think Levrone should have had a Sandow as well.
In answer to your question. In that shot, Nasser. It's not even close. And I am a big fan of Yates. As far as bodybuilders go he's more my kind of guy. Kind of the blue collar type that don't mind getting their hands dirty and sweating blood. A reason why I like Branch Warren.
But definitely Nasser there. No question.
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Fuck. I just realized this thread is two years old. I hate when you guys do this.
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I'd choose Nasser there for sure!
Nasser had his time, and I was a huge fan of his at his peak, plus the fact that he's half Egyptian really hit home...
But all good things must come to an end ;D
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Interesting to revisit this thread and see that even then the blind even when cured of their blindness, refused to see.
goddamnit what do you want?
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Nasser, of coarse. I love thick dudes.
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Pellius, Big ACH, Radioflyer. Fantastic honesty from you .
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goddamnit what do you want?
Just honest recognition of an injustice and theft.
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I had a look at the picture you posted Sharma and Nasser wins that pose ... maybe. He will also go on to win .... perhaps the ab-thigh. Not sure. However, the moment the lats comes out, and they turn around, so does the scorecard. The moment the chest comes out, so does Yates's score.
I can settle for a super close contest between Nasser and Dorian, not minding either way who won. Now with Nasser being a sore loser, and history impossible to be rewritten, Yates is the champ.
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team nasser posting today?
not busy protesting "draw mohammed day"?
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I can settle for a super close contest between Nasser and Dorian, not minding either way who won.
My friend, I cannot. Nasser DESTROYED the tattoed keg from the front and comfortably beat him from the side.
The Yates cadaver may have won a few back poses but the discrepancy between physiques was minimal when contrasted with Nasser's destruction of Yates from the side.
Also, with ZERO arms Yates also suffers in many of the poses he could otherwise claim to be better in. A Mr Olympia should have arms or there should be a separate contest for armless men.
The fact that Yates win with perfect scores just highlights the corrupt mockery that was Mr Olympia 1997.
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Dorian owning Nasser here
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My friend, I cannot. Nasser DESTROYED the tattoed keg from the front and comfortably beat him from the side.
The Yates cadaver may have won a few back poses but the discrepancy between physiques was minimal when contrasted with Nasser's destruction of Yates from the side.
Also, with ZERO arms Yates also suffers in many of the poses he could otherwise claim to be better in. A Mr Olympia should have arms or there should be a separate contest for armless men.
The fact that Yates win with perfect scores just highlights the corrupt mockery that was Mr Olympia 1997.
Ok, that's fine. I will not use the strong terms you did to describe Yates, but I can settle for him losing that contest. When you look at judging criteria, I don't think he lost, but I can settle in giving Nasser the win. Take into account I was there at the contest not too far from the front, and had Nasser in second, I'm still man enough to give Nasser that win. Now, about your other outrageous claims about Nasser win some other Olympia over Yates .... ?
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nasser beats yates like mentzer beat arnold...