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This thread is dedicated for pics, video, and discussion of Arnold at his heaviest weight. What year was it? Competition or guestposing?
There are plenty of studio shots and guestposing footage of Arnold at a massive weight, and I welcome all footage and discussion.
Here are some pictures taken by Christine Zane (courtesy Ironage forums), of Arnold guestposing in 1971. :O
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LOL at his left arm in the second pic.
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There was a pic of him guestposing at 260 doing a most muscular from one of his later years, I guess pre-74 O where he looked freaky. Someone must dig it up.
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freakyer than jay cutler could ever dream of.
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LOL at his left arm in the second pic.
Freaky, no?
You'll be blown away by these shots. Guestposing at Mr. Southern Hemisphere in Australia, 1974, as seen in Arnold 'The Early Years' DVD.
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Excellent, though the lighting is pretty dramatic... did child-kamali handle the lights?
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Freaky, no?
You'll be blown away by these shots. Guestposing at Mr. Southern Hemisphere in Australia, 1974, as seen in Arnold 'The Early Years' DVD.
It's a shame he wasn't at this size when recording Pumping Iron.
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It's a shame he wasn't at this size when recording Pumping Iron.
In the part where he talks about cumming and he was wearing the yellow tank in front of the section mirror, i think he was just a few pds off from his heaviest. ....."all pumped up you know..."
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excellent...more insanely lighted arnold pics with over-flattering shadows and nobody next to him for comparison.. ::)
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Backstage, prior to the guestposing in the first post.
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To whoever scanned and photographed these, thank you.
Studio shoot from 1974.
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I haven't seen some of these; they are really impressive. Anyone got anymore '74 shots? I imagine the man himself, along with George Butler and a few others have plenty of pics that very few people have seen. I really feel like I missed a great period in history.
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I haven't seen some of these; they are really impressive. Anyone got anymore '74 shots? I imagine the man himself, along with George Butler and a few others have plenty of pics that very few people have seen. I really feel like I missed a great period in history.
Here are some more shots from the '74 studio shoot.
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monster!!
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I think this was from the same show...
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I think this was from the same show...
Nah, he's wearing different posing trunks there and the curtains are a different style.
Here's Oak from 1974 Olympia. Some say he was at his biggest here.
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gone away, do you have the side chest shot from that show....i think that was one of the best arnold shots ever cause of the shadowing..
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I think that at his heaviest he participated in a powerlifting contest, I donīt remember which year, but I saw a photo of him deadlifting 710 lbs, a pretty good weight for the seventies.
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i thought arnold looked good in those pics outside where he wore the blue trunks...and here is a better shot of the shadow pic above...
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JaeJonna, do you have Arnold 'The Early Years' DVD? There's a part which shows Arnold posing outside in the blue trunks. It's just freaky to see.
Is this the shot you were referring to? :O
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Those are from 1974 when he was 20 lbs heavier than 1975 (which was Pumping Iron). Remember how huge he looked in PI? Imagine if he'd been in his 1974 shape! :o
Amazing.
(http://ironage.us/fineprint/march75MBP/arn-lou.jpg)
Look at how small he makes Ferrigno look!! :o
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/south79abig.jpg)
Destroys Cutler. No improvement in 34 years.
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/alwyn2abig.jpg)
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i thought arnold looked good in those pics outside where he wore the blue trunks...and here is a better shot of the shadow pic above...
Here are some that I took from the DVD. Great physique at a young age.
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more
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a few more
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Great pics - Arnold's arms chest and calves were ridiculously good.
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Arnold was the man..
great chest and arms
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Arnold at his best was untouchable.
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Arnold was is the man..
;)
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I must admit that these pictures of '74 form Arnold are truly amazing.
I have always questioned Arnold's self-proclaimed measurements, and with good cause in light of the measurements attested to by the few top bodybuilders over the years who have been reliably and verifiably measured (Arthur Jones measurement of Arnold's own upper arm being a prime example)... but even I must admit that some of those photos would put Arnold in the 260 lbs lean category.
A 260 lb Arnold would most probably surpass a top form Ronnie Coleman as Coleman's extra bulk would be comprised of a swollen midsection; overdeveloped glutes and ponderous thighs.
Truly, he was the king of kings...
The Luke
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arnold is numero uno
no question...guys these days are just chemical dumps and nobody else ever has had that aesthetic a look like arnold.
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incredible
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i have seen all of these photos 1000's of times since the 70's, yet i still stare in disbelief every time i see them. no one since has been able to instill such awe.
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In the part where he talks about cumming and he was wearing the yellow tank in front of the section mirror,
Those were two different parts of the movie. The cumming part, he was in a living room setting wearing a form fitted shirt (popular at the time), and in the yellow tank top he was in the gym posing. I want to say this was during the time he was telling the little blond kid how to pose...but it could be a different part of the movie but same time in the gym.
FWIW, the yellow tank shots of Arnold are my all time favorites of him. :)
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Jesus, some of these pics look morphed. :o Dianabol was a helluva drug. ;D Seriously though, I'm more than impressed. Arnold was truely in a class by himself.
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Best chest of all time?
These pics blow me away :o just an incredible physique
Arnold is my hero
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Arnold's contract explicitly stated that the lighting had to be as ludicrous as possible and the cameras be as shoddy as they made them, so as to make him look better. If you took a floodlight and shone it directly at him, all his impressiveness would evaporate and he'd be exposed to be a 225-230 pound stick by today's standards. In the 1970s he was amazing, but he wouldn't win an amateur show today. Anyone who makes the excuse of "if he used today's drugs" is clearly reaching and acknowledges that he was too small and ill-proportioned to even be noticed in a 2008 contest.
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those little pink pills form Thailand really gave him a great life didn't they?
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This thread is dedicated for pics, video, and discussion of Arnold at his heaviest weight. What year was it? Competition or guestposing?
There are plenty of studio shots and guestposing footage of Arnold at a massive weight, and I welcome all footage and discussion.
Here are some pictures taken by Christine Zane (courtesy Ironage forums), of Arnold guestposing in 1971. :O
These pics are rediculous, Arnold was light years ahead of everyone else including ANY of todays pros!!
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He certainly had a wonderful physique.
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For the 1971 and 1974 guestposings, I wouldn't put 260 past him at all.
Here are some gym shots. Look at Arnie's QUADS! The Oak is no 'lightweight, baby!'
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Long live the King!
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Proof that old school training builds REAL Muscle. You NEVER see any pics of Arnold looking "off season" whilst he was Mr O. ALWAYS looking huge and cut. Today's pro's are just drugged up wimps - Muscles have to be hit AT LEAST twice a week.
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strange how in all the pics of Arnold throughout his career he looks so consistent, never had the big bloated face, same with Mentzer and a lot of Golden Agers...they were doing deca and dbol but they never had bloated faces and lots of ups and downs in their weights?
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The chest always blows me away :o
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This shot is just freaky...
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=211541.0;attach=247998;image)
Apparently at the 1971 Olympia, Arnold weighed just over 250lbs. The 1974 Olympia is seen as arguably Arnold's heaviest competition weight. Are we looking at 255-260lbs at his alltime max?
More from the 1974 Olympia.
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Looks like Arnold gave Lou... the wrong advices. ;)
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Yeah. Great thread. this is the real arnold.
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This shot is just freaky...
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=211541.0;attach=247998;image)
Apparently at the 1971 Olympia, Arnold weighed just over 250lbs. The 1974 Olympia is seen as arguably Arnold's heaviest competition weight. Are we looking at 255-260lbs at his alltime max?
More from the 1974 Olympia.
Arnold always stated his highest competition weight was 235 pounds. Shows again that so many of todays stars lie about their weight, eh Dexter?!
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Lets say Arnold made a comback in the 80's with the '74 physique. Could he dethrone Haney?
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Lets say Arnold made a comback in the 80's with the '74 physique. Could he dethrone Haney?
Dude was 28 when he retired, iamgine if he'd carried on for another 10 years building on his 1974 form?!
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Except where it counts.
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These pics are rediculous, Arnold was light years ahead of everyone else including ANY of todays pros!!
agree...especially today's pros
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From acorn to Oak...
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0268.jpg)
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Arnold's doing a back lat spread here with NO GUT. Compare that to the back lat spreads of the pros today - they'd all have pregnant-looking guts.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=211541.0;attach=248007;image)
Even his back was impressive. Looks like Kaz did in that kilt pic.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=211541.0;attach=248004;image)
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great pic's mate
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If anyone has a copy of Rick Wayne's book "Muscle Wars", there is an awesome picture of Arnold standing with Franco and Serge Nubret at the 1973 Mr. Olympia. They are standing in flat lighting (the pre-judging took place at a gym) and totally relaxed and he looks incredible. One of the best pictures I've ever seen of him. For those who say he never had legs, you need to see how great his legs look in this picture.
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What IDIOT would claim he couldn't win an amateur show by today's standard?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=211541.0;attach=247661;image)
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Except where it counts.
You're aware that the flaccid penis size has absolutely no correlation with the fully erect one, right?
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You're aware that the flaccid penis size has absolutely no correlation with the fully erect one, right?
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Its ok "m8"... we can't all be blessed with a big penis. I wish to thank guys like you though, for making guys like me look even better.
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Its ok "m8"... we can't all be blessed with a big penis. I wish to thank guys like you though, for making guys like me look even better.
Huh? I was just telling a fact.
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Huh? I was just telling a fact.
How is it that you know so much about the penis?
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What IDIOT would claim he couldn't win an amateur show by today's standard?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=211541.0;attach=247661;image)
There seem to sometimes be a few of them here
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If anyone has a copy of Rick Wayne's book "Muscle Wars", there is an awesome picture of Arnold standing with Franco and Serge Nubret at the 1973 Mr. Olympia. They are standing in flat lighting (the pre-judging took place at a gym) and totally relaxed and he looks incredible. One of the best pictures I've ever seen of him. For those who say he never had legs, you need to see how great his legs look in this picture.
Yes John, they are standing in front of a fire place. Your words ring true and that is a great book.
Mike
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How is it that you know so much about the penis?
I'm homosexual, of course.
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So, does anyone have an idea as to when ARNOLD was at his HEAVIEST weight ever?
235lbs for his highest competition weight seems too light for many shots posted here. Especially the ones from 1971. But maybe it's the lighting... If it is true, then his offseason weight would probably be around 245-250, which is huge.
Here's some more gym shots. Check out the width of his quads and hams in the side chest!
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Ha ha ;D
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Its ok "m8"... we can't all be blessed with a big penis. I wish to thank guys like you though, for making guys like me look even better.
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His calves are mad freaky!!
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One of the best threads EVER. Thanks
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So, does anyone have an idea as to when ARNOLD was at his HEAVIEST weight ever?
235lbs for his highest competition weight seems too light for many shots posted here. Especially the ones from 1971. But maybe it's the lighting... If it is true, then his offseason weight would probably be around 245-250, which is huge.
Here's some more gym shots. Check out the width of his quads and hams in the side chest!
That middle pic is almost unbelievable.
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So, does anyone have an idea as to when ARNOLD was at his HEAVIEST weight ever?
Strictly based on bodyweight alone, I'm gonna go with his early 20's. At that time, he wasn't concerned with refinement, but sheer size.
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0888.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0886.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/77e46cf7.jpg)
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Strictly based on bodyweight alone, I'm gonna go with his early 20's. At that time, he wasn't concerned with refinement, but sheer size.
Very true. Arn's quads are sickening in that Thalersee Lake photoshoot and throughout his early 20's, yet he improved his calves and back alot as the contests went on, so that would add a bit of weight. With the fat and water though, maybe that would have tipped the scales in his favour over the more conditioned times. Hard to tell.
Anyone with magazine articles with stats of Arnie's weight, are very welcome.
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Ok guys. This thread has hit a lowpoint, so I'm gonna change it up a bit.
It's now become Arnold LOOKING HIS HEAVIEST! That is, Arnie at his biggest, most freakiest size! So, get postin'!
Some pics to kick us off... :o
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hes simply the greatest, Bodybuilding was agreat sport in the 70s and the 80s, its just a circus now.
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OK, GoneAway, you wanna go with "looking" the heaviest? Well, to me, his '68 IFBB Universe is where he looked the heaviest.
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/More_68_U_4.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/More_68_U_2.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0885.jpg)
Shortly after the '68 IFBB Universe...
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCAD1OT1I.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/ar514.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCASGITJU.jpg)
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pollocks..that single bi shot w number 18 on trunks same days as 68 U? he looks better there
also is this around same time giroonda called him a "Fat F---"?
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Great shots, Mr. Arnold Afficionado. He really looks freaky there.
I gotta say, he bulked up quite a bit for Hercules in NY, too. Around the same size as above. Quads appear to be slightly smaller though.
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he looked real big for that movie,a time when having muscle like that was acceptable and not considered just a drugged up look.he got on talk shows and was in regular magazines,cause he was interesting esp his personality ,he sold himself to public.
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pollocks..that single bi shot w number 18 on trunks same days as 68 U? he looks better there
also is this around same time giroonda called him a "Fat F---"?
Yeah, Moosejay. That pic is from the same day at the '68 IFBB Universe. Shot was taken backstage actually.
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Yeah, Moosejay. That pic is from the same day at the '68 IFBB Universe. Shot was taken backstage actually.
wow...looks leanner there...surprised its same day
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OK, GoneAway, you wanna go with "looking" the heaviest? Well, to me, his '68 IFBB Universe is where he looked the heaviest.
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/More_68_U_4.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/More_68_U_2.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0885.jpg)
Shortly after the '68 IFBB Universe...
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCAD1OT1I.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/ar514.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCASGITJU.jpg)
Pollux...who are the two gusy he's onstage with?
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wow...looks leanner there...surprised its same day
Yeah. He looks really good in that shot. Here's another backstage photo from the same event...
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0895.jpg)
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Pollux...who are the two gusy he's onstage with?
I'd have to open up my Arnie Vault and grab the Muscle/Builder Power issue to tell you that. I don't know off the top of my head.
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he looked real big for that movie,a time when having muscle like that was acceptable and not considered just a drugged up look.he got on talk shows and was in regular magazines,cause he was interesting esp his personality ,he sold himself to public.
exactly. can never express how much of a role PERSONALITY plays in life in general. i mean, if Arnold had a very regular personality and was trying to break into the movie industry and whatnot, as good a movie star he was or physique he had, life may have been a bit harder to win people's affection and become the star he is today. but Arnold never had a problem winning anyone's affection. very charming guy from a very young age. i think it came natural to Arnold.
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Pollux...he is likely 2-3 weeks of hard dieting away from being the winner at that show.....didn't he lose to Zane by only one judge's vote or something?
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exactly. can never express how much of a role PERSONALITY plays in life in general. i mean, if Arnold had a very regular personality and was trying to break into the movie industry and whatnot, as good a movie star he was or physique he had, life may have been a bit harder to win people's affection and become the star he is today. but Arnold never had a problem winning anyone's affection. very charming guy from a very young age. i think it came natural to Arnold.
GA...THAT is the whole deal in life.
It ain't whatcha know or how proficient you are...people will gravitate to you due to likeability.
If people like you...that is the #1 reason they will do business with you.
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Pollux...he is likely 2-3 weeks of hard dieting away from being the winner at that show.....didn't he lose to Zane by only one judge's vote or something?
By one judge's vote? Ummmm...I can't recall off the top of my head. I'd have to read the July '69 issue of Muscle Builder/Power again. It has the '68 IFBB Universe report. I'll see if I get around to it.
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may have been a few...didn't look that close due to cuts vs no cuts
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THATS why arnold is considered the greatest bbing personality of all timeno one comes close,lee haney seems like a great guy and vince taylor ect,but they would never be in movies or shaking hands with anybody else other than bbers.due to the freak factor they have/had,the industry is looked down upon due to the obvious,in arnolds time it was a california free spirit subculture,and considered cool and not some oddity sideshow.arnold knew from young age how to suceed.
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GA...THAT is the whole deal in life.
It ain't whatcha know or how proficient you are...people will gravitate to you due to likeability.
If people like you...that is the #1 reason they will do business with you.
agree with that for the most part. it pays big time to have a likable personality, and great point that people will gravitate to you. being likable = more friends, more friends = more connections, more connections = more success and so on.
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Yes.
Let's say there are two dentists...both no more proficient as a dentists as the other.
The more likeable guy does much better than the one who is less likeable.
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By one judge's vote? Ummmm...I can't recall off the top of my head. I'd have to read the July '69 issue of Muscle Builder/Power again. It has the '68 IFBB Universe report. I'll see if I get around to it.
segio beat him by 1 vote at the 69 olympia. not sure the margin Zane beat him by in 68
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remember that pic of him in the chariot in this movie?? what a freaky chest. originally called "Hercules in New York" with his voice dubbed,; then re-released as Hercules goes Bananas.
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Pollux...he is likely 2-3 weeks of hard dieting away from being the winner at that show.....didn't he lose to Zane by only one judge's vote or something?
I know that at the '66 NABBA Universe against Chet Yorton, Arnold only got first place votes from 2 judges - Wag Bennett and Bert Loveday.
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No way was his heaviest competition weight only 235 pounds. His first Mr. Olympia (1969), which he lost, he had come in at 250 pounds. He realized that he was TOO big, so the following year he cut down to 230 pounds and won it (1970). From that point onwards, his weight ranged from 235-240ish in competition. 1974 being his all-time high since the late 60's. In 1968 he had competed in his low 250's. He has stated on Letterman that he weighed 250 pounds for his role in Hercules in New York. He still had some serious size in 1984 while filming Terminator. He stated he was 240 pounds there. By 1988 he was down to 230 pounds and by 1991 (T2) he was down to 215 pounds and I read 210 by the time he filmed True Lies. Not sure what he weighs now (195-200???).
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this is me at 234.5lb. on stage. 5'10". no where near Arnold and he was 6'2". he looks 50lb. heavier than i did.
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ARNOLD IS GREAT BUT WHY HE TOOK FASHION ADVICE FROM MY GRANDFATER ON WEARING HIS PANTS SO HIGH I WILL NEVER KNOW. ABOVE PIC.
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ARNOLD IS GREAT BUT WHY HE TOOK FASHION ADVICE FROM MY GRANDFATER ON WEARING HIS PANTS SO HIGH I WILL NEVER KNOW. ABOVE PIC.
i noticed that! nothing more hideous than an exposed belly button.
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THATS why arnold is considered the greatest bbing personality of all timeno one comes close,lee haney seems like a great guy and vince taylor ect,but they would never be in movies or shaking hands with anybody else other than bbers.due to the freak factor they have/had,the industry is looked down upon due to the obvious,in arnolds time it was a california free spirit subculture,and considered cool and not some oddity sideshow.arnold knew from young age how to suceed.
Yes, and I bet Arnold could do the same today, too. He'd transcend the times if he had to.
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this is me at 234.5lb. on stage. 5'10". no where near Arnold and he was 6'2". he looks 50lb. heavier than i did.
Looking good, Hazbin.
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No way was his heaviest competition weight only 235 pounds. His first Mr. Olympia (1969), which he lost, he had come in at 250 pounds. He realized that he was TOO big, so the following year he cut down to 230 pounds and won it (1970). From that point onwards, his weight ranged from 235-240ish in competition. 1974 being his all-time high since the late 60's. In 1968 he had competed in his low 250's. He has stated on Letterman that he weighed 250 pounds for his role in Hercules in New York. He still had some serious size in 1984 while filming Terminator. He stated he was 240 pounds there. By 1988 he was down to 230 pounds and by 1991 (T2) he was down to 215 pounds and I read 210 by the time he filmed True Lies. Not sure what he weighs now (195-200???).
Thanks, Dan. Where did you get this all info from?
I think the reason why Arnold wore high-waisted pants was partly to make his upperbody look more compressed and freakier, shifting the focus off his waist and onto his abs and pecs.
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Still...I prefer the bigger trunks of yesteryear. I wonder if a current pro were to wear an 'Arnold-esque' pair of trunks...would he be marked down?
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i can understand the 'want' to have smaller trunks that expose every crevice possible besides the penis, but certain body types should realise when they have a 40" waist, a g-string (thong) probably isnt gonna help the look of that waist or make the body any more aesthetic. that is when they could likely do an Arnold, and wear something high waisted, cut off at the 'smallest' part of the waist, to try and help take the focus off the waist. it worked for Arnold, not that he needed it, with his superb waist control.
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i can understand the 'want' to have smaller trunks that expose every crevice possible besides the penis, but certain body types should realise when they have a 40" waist, a g-string (thong) probably isnt gonna help the look of that waist or make the body any more aesthetic. that is when they could likely do an Arnold, and wear something high waisted, cut off at the 'smallest' part of the waist, to try and help take the focus off the waist. it worked for Arnold, not that he needed it, with his superb waist control.
Strongly agree
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