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Title: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: 240 is Back on April 25, 2008, 12:39:41 PM
Starting monday, direct deposits of the econimic stimulus package will begin.
mon/tue/wed they are issued.

$600 per person if you make under 75k.
$1200 per couple if you make under $150k.
$300 per kid.

The money is arriving early!
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Dorian01 on April 25, 2008, 12:50:54 PM
Do you feel this is a sound move to help the economy or more of a bribe?
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: RancherRanger on April 25, 2008, 12:55:26 PM
No it's not a sound move.  You've got people like my grandma, love her to death but she didn't pay a penny in and will get a check.  Doesn't make sense.  This is a band aid trying to cover up a bigger problem!
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Archer77 on April 25, 2008, 01:09:42 PM
No it's not a sound move.  You've got people like my grandma, love her to death but she didn't pay a penny in and will get a check.  Doesn't make sense.  This is a band aid trying to cover up a bigger problem!

You nailed it.  It might cover an outstanding bill or two  perhaps cover a month of bills but it will not serve as large enough incentive for people to go out and start buying.  We are after all a luxury economy.
Title: Buy steroids to apply a "stimulus" to your muscles
Post by: ribonucleic on April 25, 2008, 01:17:48 PM
Or hire a prostitute to apply a "stimulus" to her pussy.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 25, 2008, 01:36:20 PM
110 mil people get a check.  For the bottom third, it's a HUGE bonus.  I'm getting some $, so I'm a happy camper.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: jetpower on April 25, 2008, 01:41:06 PM
I'm going to spend mine on booze and illegal sex.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: sgt. d on April 25, 2008, 01:42:31 PM
I dont want anything from that fucking idiot. I'm going to burn that money when it comes.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: sgt. d on April 25, 2008, 01:43:26 PM
I'm going to spend mine on booze and illegal sex.

1-15 yr old boys? ???
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Matt C on April 25, 2008, 01:45:42 PM
Do you feel this is a sound move to help the economy or more of a bribe?

Google video has been acting funny for me lately.  Watch all the parts of this:

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=vVkFb26u9g8

This move is to stave off the collapse of the US economy, but with the federal reserve system in place, this staving off can only last so long.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Tre on April 25, 2008, 01:57:17 PM

It won't stave off anything!

All it does is cost money to send money while the government tries to justify its size and reach into the lives of the average American. 

Of all the stupid ideas this President has had, this is one that'll be near the top of the list.  Fucking liberal fucktard...
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 25, 2008, 02:00:28 PM
I'm going to spend mine on booze and illegal sex.

I'm going the PCP route :D
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Moosejay on April 25, 2008, 02:01:42 PM
110 mil people get a check.  For the bottom third, it's a HUGE bonus.  I'm getting some $, so I'm a happy camper.

true...for those who often go without....if spent prudently...it will be a profound and timely help
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 25, 2008, 02:15:41 PM
I'm going to buy some steroids from Dave Jacobs....whoops!!! ;D
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 25, 2008, 02:23:21 PM
true...for those who often go without....if spent prudently...it will be a profound and timely help

Yep.  $300 is a lot of money to a lot of people.  I'm in a dual-income household that does fairly well, but $1500 (married with 1 kid) falling out of the sky is an awesome bonus.  I'm very happy.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: leaky_frog on April 25, 2008, 02:33:43 PM
I'm excited for the $2400 coming my way, but I agree it's not going to fix anything.  You'll see a one-month rise in spending, and out.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: candidizzle on April 25, 2008, 03:03:29 PM
man fuck that i dont get shit !! i hope all your checks get lost in the mail !!!   >:( >:(
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: whateva on April 25, 2008, 03:05:32 PM
Yep.  $300 is a lot of money to a lot of people.  .
Where  ???
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: milfer on April 25, 2008, 03:06:07 PM
how do i know if im getting it????
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: candidizzle on April 25, 2008, 03:07:31 PM
Where  ???
you dont want your check send it to me brotha  :D   lol...    nah fuck that, gay ass american gov. doesnt know how to properly stimulate their womans vagina, let alone our countries economy. everybodys a politicicaan !! oh goddamnit.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: SS on April 25, 2008, 03:10:32 PM
I dont want anything from that fucking idiot. I'm going to burn that money when it comes.
Translation............"Us poor black folk colloecting goverment cheese wonts bes getting nos working mens check" ;D
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: G o a t b o y on April 25, 2008, 03:21:15 PM
  I'm getting some $, which means I didn't sell as many $300 websites as I should have last year


fixed.  ;D
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Bast175 on April 25, 2008, 03:35:49 PM
soon things will be jacked way up in prices at supermarkets and cost for us, this refund will only seem like chump change over the span of 5 years its happend the past 5 years and 10 years ago gas was 75 cent a gallon. so the dollar is worth 300 percent less than 10 years ago and probably 500 percent further worthless in the next 5 years..

this is good though that we have inflation that is slow and gradual it keeps people on there toes and working and not milking around too much being lazy with no responsibilities. people will have to step it up big in the future if they want to get what they want in life, things that cost money, no more handouts or the handouts we do get will be much more worthless. i see a bright future ahead , welfares will be a thing of the past it just wont be a way of society anymore. the weak people who refuse to work will be cut off from society and put in 'concentration' camps or 'help centers' so the common man doesnt have to be botherd with those idiots they can all coexist under government run facilities, like a new age slum center
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 25, 2008, 03:41:43 PM
Food costs more due to gas prices being so high.

The US actually has plenty of rice, we produce most of what we use here.  There isn't a shortage here.  The media went crazy because a few sams club/costco's limited purchaes to normal customer limits, cause a few pricks were buying a ton and sending it overseas where it's scarce.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: tommywishbone on April 25, 2008, 04:01:03 PM
600 US dollars? Lordy! I'm having a case of the vapors!! Catch me if I faint dead away. 600 bucks  ;D Two tanks of gas, one week of groceries, and dinner for two at Sizzler.

bush is a mass murderer. he should keep the $600 to buy napalm to drop on kids.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Jerryme7 on April 25, 2008, 05:43:37 PM
The sad part is that Ive heard the Economic Stimulus Package is actually a "loan" the government got from China or some other country?

Either way.... we are still losing on our end....the money we spend is being paid to the arabs and persians who own the oil..... being spent on "China"...the only thing we actually are spending and buying "American" is beer...
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 25, 2008, 06:23:25 PM
we borrow a lot of $ from china.

In the future, we'll repay it with oil when they're starving for it.

They know the drill.

They give us trillions of bucks, we twist arms worldwide for $, and we'll pay them back eventually.

We borrowed a lot to fun iraq war, but that funding is ending now.  No more reconstruction $ for iraq.  just troops.  We'll repay china.  Prez obama will tax the rich and fudge the caps and the borrowing will slow.

This is cyclical.  Repub leaders kick ass worldwide and borrow $, then Dem leaders get the white house and fix the domestic economy by taxing the rich (since they did, after all, get rich off war stocks during the republican years in office).

it's always happened this way.  war then peace.  borrow then repay.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: johnnytosh on April 25, 2008, 07:34:02 PM
Starting monday, direct deposits of the econimic stimulus package will begin.

$600 per person if you make under 75k.
$1200 per couple if you make under $150k.
$300 per kid.

The money is arriving early!

Great news 240.  I wondered when I was gonna get paid.  It feels good to suck on that welfare nipple.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 25, 2008, 07:37:01 PM
Great news 240.  I wondered when I was gonna get paid.  It feels good to suck on that welfare nipple.

well, it's more like you're getting back a small % of what you paid this year, not exactly welfare.

It'll be nice though, and it'll definitely stimulate the economy.  Even if people only pay their bills up, it'll boost the system.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Tre on April 25, 2008, 07:43:33 PM

Q: Why not just have people pay less taxes?

A: Because that would be cheaper and make a helluva lot more sense.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: bigdumbbell on April 25, 2008, 07:46:07 PM
110 mil people get a check.  For the bottom third, it's a HUGE bonus.  I'm getting some $, so I'm a happy camper.
r u getting a bigger camper soon?
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: chaos on April 25, 2008, 07:49:57 PM
I'm going to spend mine on booze and illegal sex.
I'm locking my dogs away!! >:(
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 25, 2008, 07:53:01 PM
r u getting a bigger camper soon?

no.  but we're adding another room :)
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: sgt. d on April 25, 2008, 08:03:52 PM
dont support the devil
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: chaos on April 25, 2008, 08:09:08 PM
dont support the devil
Don't worry, I don't support black men......except through my taxes.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: G o a t b o y on April 25, 2008, 08:09:48 PM
Don't worry, I don't support black men......except through my taxes.


 ;D
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: gordiano on April 25, 2008, 08:40:33 PM
Cool....just in time for GTA4.


But seriously.....what a stupid move. Get us further indebted to the assholes who run/own our monetary system (therefore our country), all so some dickhead can go get a PS3 and make Bestbuy happy..... ::)
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: tu_holmes on April 25, 2008, 08:43:25 PM
It's a bunch of bullshit.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: chaos on April 25, 2008, 08:47:45 PM
It's a bunch of bullshit.
You're not gettin any?
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: tu_holmes on April 25, 2008, 08:55:27 PM
You're not gettin any?

Nope... Not a goddam dime... Which lets me hate a lot.

Plus, let's face it... What's it gonna?

All you're going to see is a bunch of shiney new rims on the fucking road.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: chaos on April 25, 2008, 08:58:16 PM
Nope... Not a goddam dime... Which lets me hate a lot.

Plus, let's face it... What's it gonna?

All you're going to see is a bunch of shiney new rims on the fucking road.
I hope I get some, but I'm not sure.........if I do, I'm buying some bling bling for my ride........ ;D
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Dreadlord on April 25, 2008, 10:26:09 PM

Far better to put that money into developing some schools. social services etc that will have a greater payback to the country.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: gordiano on April 25, 2008, 10:51:06 PM
Far better to put that money into developing some schools. social services etc that will have a greater payback to the country.

That would make sense.....so it doesn't happen.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Matt C on April 25, 2008, 11:37:16 PM
The price of rice has risen as part of a broader agenda of new world order eugenics.

http://www.dispatch.co.za/article.aspx?id=196812

In the UK 30% of people are in debt to their gas/electricity suppliers (this has occurred over the last three years).

One of the main banks has recently stopped issuing mortgages to new customers, and let's not forget that rice is currently being rationed in the U.S due to world rice prices rising approximately four times over the last month.

World economic collapse is coming, and the tiny tits will be shocked.

My question is, when will this economic collapse take place?  My guess is that we have at least one presidential term of relative economic stability left before we see anything substantial.  Although I am seeking information from experts on that topic to verify that thought.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: gordiano on April 25, 2008, 11:44:24 PM
The price of rice has risen as part of a broader agenda of new world order eugenics.

In the UK 30% of people are in debt to their gas/electricity suppliers (this has occurred over the last three years).

http://www.dispatch.co.za/article.aspx?id=196812

One of the main banks has recently stopped issuing mortgages to new customers, and let's not forget that rice is currently being rationed in the U.S due to world rice prices rising approximately four times over the last month.

World economic collapse is coming, and the tiny tits will be shocked.

My question is, when will this economic collapse take place?  My guess is that we have at least one presidential term of relative economic stability left before we see anything substantial.  Although I am seeking information from experts on that topic to verify that thought.

Damn....I was reading your post as we were hit with an earthquake.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Matt C on April 26, 2008, 12:45:47 AM
Damn....I was reading your post as we were hit with an earthquake.

Really?  That's pretty neat, lol.  What would Shawn do during an earthquake?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=206079.0;attach=240546;image)
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: gordiano on April 26, 2008, 01:16:22 AM
Really?  That's pretty neat, lol.  What would Shawn do during an earthquake?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=206079.0;attach=240546;image)

Not really.....since my Mother (she's staying with me) came out of her room telling how the earthquake is related to the Bible and the end of the world.  :-\ I think she got mad when I laughed, and asked her if t was all part of "god's" plan.  ;D


As to what Shawn ray would do in an earthquake? Hmm......a tranny?
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Bigger Business on April 26, 2008, 01:22:39 AM
The money was borrowed from China and a large portion of it will be spent on Chinese made goods via Walmart or where ever

Yes, the Chinese are very happy about this arrangement
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Matt C on April 26, 2008, 02:09:18 AM
Not really.....since my Mother (she's staying with me) came out of her room telling how the earthquake is related to the Bible and the end of the world.  :-\ I think she got mad when I laughed, and asked her if t was all part of "god's" plan.  ;D


As to what Shawn ray would do in an earthquake? Hmm......a tranny?


LOL!!!  I literally laughed out loud when you described the events and mentioned that you laughed.  ;D
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: tu_holmes on April 26, 2008, 02:13:21 AM
I hope I get some, but I'm not sure.........if I do, I'm buying some bling bling for my ride........ ;D

Make sure you get some spinners! :)
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 26, 2008, 05:14:14 AM
Damn....I was reading your post as we were hit with an earthquake.

woah, what state you in?
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: chaos on April 26, 2008, 05:19:43 AM
woah, what state you in?
Denial.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: The Master on April 26, 2008, 05:26:40 AM
The price of rice has risen as part of a broader agenda of new world order eugenics.

http://www.dispatch.co.za/article.aspx?id=196812

In the UK 30% of people are in debt to their gas/electricity suppliers (this has occurred over the last three years).

One of the main banks has recently stopped issuing mortgages to new customers, and let's not forget that rice is currently being rationed in the U.S due to world rice prices rising approximately four times over the last month.

World economic collapse is coming, and the tiny tits will be shocked.

My question is, when will this economic collapse take place?  My guess is that we have at least one presidential term of relative economic stability left before we see anything substantial.  Although I am seeking information from experts on that topic to verify that thought.

MattCock, are you predicting world economic collapse within 10 years? :P Is this based upon feeling, or rational insight testified by experts? ;D

And who is in control of this world order eugenics thing? Is it the jews? How does the price of rice coming into all of this? To wipe out the orientals and their IQ advantage for total world control? ;D
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: io856 on April 26, 2008, 05:28:47 AM
MattCOCK posts to troll for negative response.

Discuss.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: MB on April 26, 2008, 05:38:21 AM
Another stupid thing is that we will be taxed on this "gift".  Why not just send out less money and not require tax on it?
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Luv2Hurt on April 26, 2008, 06:54:50 AM
we borrow a lot of $ from china.

In the future, we'll repay it with oil when they're starving for it.

They know the drill.

They give us trillions of bucks, we twist arms worldwide for $, and we'll pay them back eventually.

We borrowed a lot to fun iraq war, but that funding is ending now.  No more reconstruction $ for iraq.  just troops.  We'll repay china.  Prez obama will tax the rich and fudge the caps and the borrowing will slow.

This is cyclical.  Repub leaders kick ass worldwide and borrow $, then Dem leaders get the white house and fix the domestic economy by taxing the rich (since they did, after all, get rich off war stocks during the republican years in office).

it's always happened this way.  war then peace.  borrow then repay.

Pretty nice summery.  The majority of the nation needs the war to end and the domestic economy to be repaired.  The natives are getting restless and things will need to change.  I see things getting very ugly here if the repubs keep the white house and want to continue with this war for another 4 years.  The French revolution comes to mind.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: MadJimF on April 26, 2008, 08:44:52 AM
Alright I can fill up the tank of the exp one more time...

Starting monday, direct deposits of the econimic stimulus package will begin.

$600 per person if you make under 75k.
$1200 per couple if you make under $150k.
$300 per kid.

The money is arriving early!
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: SAMSON123 on April 26, 2008, 08:46:12 AM
Translation............"Us poor black folk colloecting goverment cheese wonts bes getting nos working mens check" ;D

ANOTHER INBRED LIVING IN A TRAILER PARK USING A LIBRARY COMPUTER....
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: SAMSON123 on April 26, 2008, 08:52:54 AM
Do you feel this is a sound move to help the economy or more of a bribe?

What the IDIOTS don't realize is this is the US government way of finally putting the nail in the coffin which destroys america. Adding all of this money to the economy by printing BILLIONS of dollars and then handing it to the public to spread only reduces the value of the already falling dollar by that much more. As it stands now the dollar is worthless...soon people will be throwing it into furaces like the Polish, Germans, Hungarian etc did when their money collapsed. This is the most simple minded thing to do when a  country is already in a recession and fast heading for a DEPRESSION... but then again that was and is the BUSH ADMINISTRATIONS goal. Bankrupt the country, then try to revive it after first getting control over all agencies, companies and industries. The 1929 maneuver will not work in 2008...It's over folks...enjoy your money...THE SOUP LINES AWAIT.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: technokc on April 26, 2008, 09:00:07 AM
Gonna get me some new hub caps and a tight spoiler.  YEAH BOYEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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(http://www.geekpulp.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/spoiler.jpg)
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: The Master on April 26, 2008, 09:03:55 AM
What the IDIOTS don't realize is this is the US government way of finally putting the nail in the coffin which destroys america. Adding all of this money to the economy by printing BILLIONS of dollars and then handing it to the public to spread only reduces the value of the already falling dollar by that much more. As it stands now the dollar is worthless...soon people will be throwing it into furaces like the Polish, Germans, Hungarian etc did when their money collapsed. This is the most simple minded thing to do when a  country is already in a recession and fast heading for a DEPRESSION... but then again that was and is the BUSH ADMINISTRATIONS goal. Bankrupt the country, then try to revive it after first getting control over all agencies, companies and industries. The 1929 maneuver will not work in 2008...It's over folks...enjoy your money...THE SOUP LINES AWAIT.

A pretty much worthless post from a rational point of view.

From the viewpoint of people with doomsday-panic disorder, the predicted scenario might make some sense, yet, it makes sense because the frame of reference they apply completely lacks rationality and is based upon a disease.

Tell me, is your IQ 85? ;D
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: gordiano on April 26, 2008, 09:29:29 AM
woah, what state you in?

Nevada. It's funny, cause we having them often lately.... :-\
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: gymguy on April 26, 2008, 11:42:30 AM
I dont want anything from that fucking idiot. I'm going to burn that money when it comes.
Afterwards, why don't you move to Canada or Mexico.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: chaos on April 26, 2008, 12:16:02 PM
Nevada. It's funny, cause we having them often lately.... :-\
Right around Reno?

Was a fairly good one too, huh, 4.7 or something?
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Matt C on April 26, 2008, 01:06:21 PM
MattCock, are you predicting world economic collapse within 10 years? :P Is this based upon feeling, or rational insight testified by experts? ;D

And who is in control of this world order eugenics thing? Is it the jews? How does the price of rice coming into all of this? To wipe out the orientals and their IQ advantage for total world control? ;D

Yes, I think 10 years might be accurate.  As it is now, I am seeking opinions from credible experts with business backgrounds - 240 or Bust for example.  ;D

No rice = far fewer poor people.  :-\

You must observe trends.  Sure, not every poor person will die, but millions will with this rise in the price of rice.  If the powers that be really cared about this, don't you think they would subsidize rice for them?  Look at the big picture and ask these obvious questions.

Yes, the Jews and free masons are at the top of the chain.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 26, 2008, 01:16:30 PM
since you asked my opinion...

I don't think there will be a big global food crisis.  Supplies are low at the moment because in 2007 many farmers got $ from the govt to use their land for ethanol fuel purposes, and it's been hot this year in many areas, so crops were down.

As a result, the JIT supply chain has been tightened a bit.  There are shortages occasionally when that happens, and these are widely publicized (doomsday scenarios sell papers) and as a result, people begin hoarding, which causes the supply chain to fail in a few areas where enough elasticity isn't built in.

People in plentiful areas (USA) mail food to their families in the tough areas.  This caused Costco/Sams to limit rice sales when Cali buyers started buying it by the pallet and shipping it to Thailand.  DRUDGE reported it on Wed, and by Thurs you had many news orgs asking the Q "is rationing coming?"

The message boards go crazy, and online and real editors realize it's a story, so they put it on their news pages and the hits are high.   A few people capitalize on this (Wall Street Journal writer telling people to 'hoard' food for their cupboards- incidentally he helps run Quaker dried foods).

This will correct itself, of course.  UN announced it's a problem, and nations are tilling more land so it's solved next year.  The real problem, as we all know, is that people in poor, unproductive countries are having too many babies.  The world cannot support 10 bil people (without nano technology food, which might solve all of this), and the uneducated idiots in 3rd world nations keep having babies, and keep living longer.

Anyway, bottom line is that a few weak areas of the JIT world food chain were widely publicized and a few people did some 'panic buying', and the global powers are correcting the kinks in the chain by increasing supply.



Note:  I don't trouble my brain with thought of race/creed/social groups in my analysis.  Supply chains are sexy beyotches, though :)
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Matt C on April 26, 2008, 01:21:02 PM
What the IDIOTS don't realize is this is the US government way of finally putting the nail in the coffin which destroys america. Adding all of this money to the economy by printing BILLIONS of dollars and then handing it to the public to spread only reduces the value of the already falling dollar by that much more. As it stands now the dollar is worthless...soon people will be throwing it into furaces like the Polish, Germans, Hungarian etc did when their money collapsed. This is the most simple minded thing to do when a  country is already in a recession and fast heading for a DEPRESSION... but then again that was and is the BUSH ADMINISTRATIONS goal. Bankrupt the country, then try to revive it after first getting control over all agencies, companies and industries. The 1929 maneuver will not work in 2008...It's over folks...enjoy your money...THE SOUP LINES AWAIT.

This is a great post!

A pretty much worthless post from a rational point of view.

From the viewpoint of people with doomsday-panic disorder, the predicted scenario might make some sense, yet, it makes sense because the frame of reference they apply completely lacks rationality and is based upon a disease.

Tell me, is your IQ 85? ;D

Debussey, I probably agree with you 90% or more of the time, but unless you expand on this, I fail to see where SAMSON123 didn't hit it bang on.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: technokc on April 26, 2008, 01:40:47 PM
This is a great post!

Debussey, I probably agree with you 90% or more of the time, but unless you expand on this, I fail to see where SAMSON123 didn't hit it bang on.

For one thing if you kill the dollar you kill half the world, it is in the best interest for the entire world for the dollar to be strong.  If your a regular Joe Blow Chinaman having a weak dollar is great, you can get more American products, however if your Giantico Corporation and all of a sudden you cant sale anything to America, not so good. 
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Matt C on April 26, 2008, 01:44:52 PM
For one thing if you kill the dollar you kill half the world, it is in the best interest for the entire world for the dollar to be strong.  If your a regular Joe Blow Chinaman having a weak dollar is great, you can get more American products, however if your Giantico Corporation and all of a sudden you cant sale anything to America, not so good. 

Yes, you are indeed correct that it is important for the entire world to have a strong US dollar.  Canada's economy is being directly effected by the recession in the USA right now.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: chaos on April 26, 2008, 01:45:40 PM
Yes, you are indeed correct that it is important for the entire world to have a strong US dollar.  Canada's economy is being directly effected by the recession in the USA right now.
Quit riding our coattails, leech!
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 26, 2008, 01:46:47 PM
Dollar isn't going to die.  It's simply having its overvalued worth corrected.  it was artificially high due to credit.  Well, the credit leveled out, flaws were exposed, and the dollar value is adjusting.  Plus, perception right now is that the dollar is weak.  There is a fatigue that comes with that.  people stop stressing it after 3,4,5 months and nothing in their life changes.

Think about how many powerful people, companies, countries, and markets live by the dollar.  If it fails, they fail.  They will now let that happen.  Plus, we own china a few trillion dollars.  They want it to be strong, most definitely.

This is just an adjustment period.  bush abused the dollars for the benefit of a few corporations - I think even most staunch repubs would agree with that.  It's happened before.  A change election will occur and Dem leadership will tax the higher base and it will correct.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 26, 2008, 01:48:09 PM
directly effected


WTF?
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Post by: chaos on April 26, 2008, 01:49:51 PM

WTF?
Cut him some slack, he's only a MENSA..... ::)
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: The True Adonis on April 26, 2008, 01:53:50 PM
I scoff at the meagerness and pittiance of those looking ever so gleefully for their chicken scratch.  Perhaps a few of you may form a conglomerate and purchase Matt C a few used seat covers and a canister of Stink-Be-Gone for the interiors of his residence as well as automobile.  Twould be a fabulous gesture, and money well spent.  Anything to ease the comforts of the plebian.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Matt C on April 26, 2008, 01:55:42 PM
I scoff at the meagerness and pittiance of those looking ever so gleefully for their chicken scratch.  Perhaps a few of you may form a conglomerate and purchase Matt C a few used seat covers and a canister of Stink-Be-Gone for the interiors of his residence as well as automobile.  Twould be a fabulous gesture, and money well spent.  Anything to ease the comforts of the plebian.

I own my four bedroom/two bathroom house, car, and 66" TV free and clear you poor cunt.  ::)
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Camel Jockey on April 26, 2008, 02:03:40 PM
For one thing if you kill the dollar you kill half the world, it is in the best interest for the entire world for the dollar to be strong.  If your a regular Joe Blow Chinaman having a weak dollar is great, you can get more American products, however if your Giantico Corporation and all of a sudden you cant sale anything to America, not so good. 

Weaker dollars also causes the murderous gas prices..

I think the Fed should have kept the money supply tighter by not cutting the fed funds rate. No economist here or anything.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Archer77 on April 26, 2008, 02:04:42 PM
What the IDIOTS don't realize is this is the US government way of finally putting the nail in the coffin which destroys america. Adding all of this money to the economy by printing BILLIONS of dollars and then handing it to the public to spread only reduces the value of the already falling dollar by that much more. As it stands now the dollar is worthless...soon people will be throwing it into furaces like the Polish, Germans, Hungarian etc did when their money collapsed. This is the most simple minded thing to do when a  country is already in a recession and fast heading for a DEPRESSION... but then again that was and is the BUSH ADMINISTRATIONS goal. Bankrupt the country, then try to revive it after first getting control over all agencies, companies and industries. The 1929 maneuver will not work in 2008...It's over folks...enjoy your money...THE SOUP LINES AWAIT.

  I dislike the Bush administration as much as the next guy but unfortunately the amount of money that will be injected into the system is negligible and will not affect inflation or hasten the collapse of the dollar directly.  As i said before the money will probably be used by most people on bills and not services and goods.  I do agree with some of what your saying but in the contact of the overall economic strategy of this administration.  Conservative economic policy is based on the premise of bleeding the beast,  "bankrupting the government", in order to  privatized services  that the government would normally handle involvement so in a sense I agree with what your saying.  There are a lot of ways of doing this such underfunding programs and poor administration.  Later they use this as examples of why the government shouldn't be trusted with anything.
  Back to the original point, I do not believe the coming government handout will effect the economy positively or adversely.   The problems with the United States economy are structural and if your not going to address the infrastructure than the problems are going to persist.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: sgt. d on April 26, 2008, 02:06:02 PM
Don't worry, I don't support black men......except through my taxes.

 I'm talking about Bush ::)
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: technokc on April 26, 2008, 02:07:12 PM
Weaker dollars also causes the murderous gas prices..

I think the Fed should have kept the money supply tighter by not cutting the fed funds rate. No economist here or anything.

Hopefully at the next meeting they will keep the rates steady and the dollar will start to climb.  Especially since I'm taking my rebate to Ireland in June, the dollar-eruo exchange rate is killing me.  If it even climbs by a nickle should save me over 100 dollars.  Thats alot of extra pints. ;D
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: The Coach on April 26, 2008, 03:00:56 PM
Holy crap, if this thread doesn't prove that the majority of this site is filled with rock headed libs nothing does. Hey, if you people hate this plan so much, let's see how many of you return the money.........yeah, that's what I thought. But if a lib president does that you'd be praising him.....but don't worry, that won't happen, your money will be taken before its givin back!!!
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 26, 2008, 03:02:13 PM
Holy crap, if this thread doesn't prove that the majority of this site is filled with rock headed libs nothing does. Hey, if you people hate this plan so much, let's see how many of you return the money.........yeah, that's what I thought. But if a lib president does that you'd be praising him.....but don't worry, that won't happen, your money will be taken before its givin back!!!

Joe,

The dollar has devalued a great deal in the last 7 years.

Who should we blame for that?
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: The Coach on April 26, 2008, 03:07:37 PM
I haven't been on for over 5 hours and look who the first reply is from......its like you know when I'm going to post...WTF?

It's kinda scary :(
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 26, 2008, 03:22:44 PM
I haven't been on for over 5 hours and look who the first reply is from......its like you know when I'm going to post...WTF?

It's kinda scary :(

lol i've been on the boards all day. it's dead in here!
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: The Coach on April 26, 2008, 03:24:48 PM
Damn, I'm posting from the club house bar (golf course) :-)
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: chaos on April 26, 2008, 03:51:19 PM
Damn, I'm posting from the club house bar (golf course) :-)
Loser sitting at the bar, beer in hand, posting on getbig from your phone, while your golfer gets his shit together.

Poor PT guys, I feel bad hey have to take jobs like caddying on the weekends. :'(
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Post by: Obvious Gimmick on April 26, 2008, 03:52:25 PM
i wont be getting anything. Thanks GW!
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Post by: The Coach on April 26, 2008, 04:00:45 PM
Don't worry Chaos, I play twice a week at Meadowlark here in HB, maybe next week I'll let you carry my bag.....if you can hang!
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: chaos on April 26, 2008, 04:02:56 PM
Don't worry Chaos, I play twice a week at Meadowlark here in HB, maybe next week I'll let you carry my bag.....if you can hang!
::)

So you have to walk around and pick up the golf balls from the water traps?
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: The Coach on April 26, 2008, 04:05:59 PM
WTF is a "water trap"?
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Post by: chaos on April 26, 2008, 04:12:07 PM
WTF is a "water trap"?

Isn't that what you caddies call those little lakes you have to wade in to get your golfers balls back?
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: The Coach on April 26, 2008, 04:15:40 PM
No....you mean a "sand trap" your confusing it with your bloated watery ass :)
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: chaos on April 26, 2008, 04:19:12 PM
No....you mean a "sand trap" your confusing it with your bloated watery ass :)
My bloated watery ass didn't get on stage though :-*
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: The Coach on April 26, 2008, 04:22:24 PM
Which is precisly why I'm playing golf again. I'd rather drink beer and win money than eat fish and lose money :-)
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: chaos on April 26, 2008, 04:27:19 PM
Which is precisly why I'm playing golf again. I'd rather drink beer and win money than eat fish and lose money :-)
BTW, just like bbing, golf is not a sport. ;)
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 26, 2008, 04:28:22 PM
Golf is a contest.  Like BBing.
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Post by: The Coach on April 26, 2008, 04:30:01 PM
Your wrong, golf takes skill and a certain degree of athleticism.....lifting weights doesn't
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Post by: chaos on April 26, 2008, 04:35:09 PM
Your wrong, golf takes skill and a certain degree of athleticism.....lifting weights doesn't
Skill does not equal a sport.....is pool a sport, no, darts a sport, no.....golf.....nope.


Is this what you teach your "clients".....that golf is a sport? ::)
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: The Coach on April 26, 2008, 04:35:27 PM
No its not Rob, golf is an individual sport based on scoring with no judges involved. Bodybuilding is judged. You don't see many contraversial decisions in Golf do you? Either you win in less strokes than you opponant or you don't....simple as that!
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Post by: Matt C on April 26, 2008, 04:36:27 PM
Damn, I'm posting from the club house bar (golf course) (Masonic lodge) :-)

Fixed.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 26, 2008, 04:37:00 PM
No its not Rob, golf is an individual sport based on scoring with no judges involved.

So is competitive eating.  So is ping pong.  So is a farting contest using a machine to measure the decibels.

having an objective scoring system does not equal a sport.

Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: chaos on April 26, 2008, 04:37:54 PM
So is competitive eating.  So is ping pong.  So is a farting contest using a machine to measure the decibels.

having an objective scoring system does not equal a sport.


Exactly, it's not a sport, get over it coach, you've been training to play a game, not a sport.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Matt C on April 26, 2008, 04:45:53 PM
So is competitive eating.  So is ping pong.  So is a farting contest using a machine to measure the decibels.

having an objective scoring system does not equal a sport.



Sport:

- Objective scoring system.
- A minimum standard of athleticism which relates directly to performance.
- Defined boundaries of play.

Something along those lines.

That rules out hobbies like bodybuilding and fishing which people consider sports.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: chaos on April 26, 2008, 04:46:52 PM
Sport:

- Objective scoring system.
- A minimum standard of athleticism which relates directly to performance.
- Defined boundaries of play.

Something along those lines.

That rules out hobbies like bodybuilding and fishing which people consider sports.
And golf which obviously takes no athleticism.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Matt C on April 26, 2008, 04:49:34 PM
And golf which obviously takes no athleticism.

Yes exactly.  Why would Mr. Intenseone Joe Loco PT The Coach who participates in both bodybuilding and golf and is so adamant about bodybuilding not being a sport state that golf is one?  I always assumed his main criteria was athleticism.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: chaos on April 26, 2008, 04:50:52 PM
Yes exactly.  Why would Mr. Intenseone Joe Loco PT The Coach who participates in both bodybuilding and golf and is so adamant about bodybuilding not being a sport state that golf is one?  I always assumed his main criteria was athleticism.
He claims he trains "athletes" not bbers.......not sure why he makes a stink about it.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: The Coach on April 26, 2008, 05:01:50 PM
You have never played golf have you?
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: chaos on April 26, 2008, 05:04:27 PM
You have never played golf have you?
I'm an athlete, don't have time for sissy games.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: The Master on April 26, 2008, 05:05:21 PM
This is a great post!

Debussey, I probably agree with you 90% or more of the time, but unless you expand on this, I fail to see where SAMSON123 didn't hit it bang on.


Because "Sampson" paints a doomsday scenario, makes wild assumptions, and does it all without a shred of evidence. The overwhelming majority of the professional economists does noe believe in the lengths he takes his assumptions to, and you can not claim that "Sampson" is taking the conclusions ("As it stands now the dollar is worthless...soon people will be throwing it into furaces like the Polish, Germans, Hungarian etc did when their money collapsed" -> Compare this to what 240 wrote about the dollar in a response to one of your rescent posts) a bit far to make a point, because practically all of his posts uses this style of writing, both the positive and negative ones, and its hard to get the impression of a "point maker" if you backtrack his writings.

"but then again that was and is the BUSH ADMINISTRATIONS goal. Bankrupt the country, then try to revive it after first getting control over all agencies, companies and industries. The 1929 maneuver will not work in 2008...It's over folks...enjoy your money...THE SOUP LINES AWAIT.
-> This is an irrational statement by far. He has no proof for this, and to make such a statement, he has to have insight knowledge about the Bush administration. Analyzed in the context of his rescent posts, it just testifies to the fact that the he = an idiot.

How can you take his posting seriously when it is not based on fact, but a silly mental construct of reality that he has no business using as an argument? His whole post screams "I am scared shitless, and that's my whole argument"
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Post by: Matt C on April 26, 2008, 05:22:25 PM

Because "Sampson" paints a doomsday scenario, makes wild assumptions, and does it all without a shred of evidence. The overwhelming majority of the professional economists does noe believe in the lengths he takes his assumptions to, and you can not claim that "Sampson" is taking the conclusions ("As it stands now the dollar is worthless...soon people will be throwing it into furaces like the Polish, Germans, Hungarian etc did when their money collapsed" -> Compare this to what 240 wrote about the dollar in a response to one of your rescent posts) a bit far to make a point, because practically all of his posts uses this style of writing, both the positive and negative ones, and its hard to get the impression of a "point maker" if you backtrack his writings.

"but then again that was and is the BUSH ADMINISTRATIONS goal. Bankrupt the country, then try to revive it after first getting control over all agencies, companies and industries. The 1929 maneuver will not work in 2008...It's over folks...enjoy your money...THE SOUP LINES AWAIT.
-> This is an irrational statement by far. He has no proof for this, and to make such a statement, he has to have insight knowledge about the Bush administration. Analyzed in the context of his rescent posts, it just testifies to the fact that the he = an idiot.

How can you take his posting seriously when it is not based on fact, but a silly mental construct of reality that he has no business using as an argument? His whole post screams "I am scared shitless, and that's my whole argument"

Given that the US economy is being suffocated by the fraudulent private federal reserve system, and given that the debt based economy must accrue more debt in order to stave off collapse, and given that this game can only last so long, and given history of Jewish orchestrated bank fraud, I am compelled to side with SAMPSON.

The soup line awaits for you Debussey DF.

"Thank you Sir, can I have another."

Unfortunately, no.
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Post by: The Coach on April 26, 2008, 06:41:24 PM
I'm an athlete, don't have time for sissy games.


Aaaahahahahahahahahahaha haha, as is Milos...hahahahahaha!
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Post by: The Master on April 26, 2008, 06:45:14 PM
Given that the US economy is being suffocated by the fraudulent private federal reserve system, and given that the debt based economy must accrue more debt in order to stave off collapse, and given that this game can only last so long, and given history of Jewish orchestrated bank fraud, I am compelled to side with SAMPSON.

The soup line awaits for you Debussey DF.

"Thank you Sir, can I have another."

Unfortunately, no.


You = entitled to your opinion dear Matt  (http://www.boat-links.com/images/DilDozer/Flaccid-Moto-Penis.jpg)



Can you prove all your premises dear MattCock, with credible sources (like the majority of the leading economic experts on the US economy?) This request to find the soundness in your premises = especially targeted towards the jewish bank conspiracy. ;D

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Post by: CalvinH on April 26, 2008, 06:46:17 PM
Cheap booze and cheap women for me.
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Post by: The Coach on April 26, 2008, 06:48:29 PM
Given that the US economy is being suffocated by the fraudulent private federal reserve system, and given that the debt based economy must accrue more debt in order to stave off collapse, and given that this game can only last so long, and given history of Jewish orchestrated bank fraud, I am compelled to side with SAMPSON.

The soup line awaits for you Debussey DF.

"Thank you Sir, can I have another."

Unfortunately, no.

Gotta love the CT's......I'll bet you think 9/11 was an inside job, the moon landing was a hoax and Elvis is still alive..LOL!
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Post by: The Coach on April 26, 2008, 06:50:59 PM
It's been 2 mins and no sign of 240 ???

Damn, call out the search team!
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Post by: SirTraps on April 26, 2008, 06:51:43 PM
JoeLoco, do you think Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK ? yes or no ?  :-\
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Post by: The Coach on April 26, 2008, 06:53:22 PM
JoeLoco, do you think Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK ? yes or no ?  :-\

Haven't had time to think about it......but I've heard several theories.
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Post by: The Master on April 26, 2008, 06:54:58 PM
Haven't had time to think about it......but I've heard several theories.

Are you sure that you spending time thinking about it would actually amount to something? 8)
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Post by: SirTraps on April 26, 2008, 06:57:04 PM
Haven't had time to think about it......but I've heard several theories.

  That was 44 years ago, what do you mean you havent had time to think about it ?
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Post by: CT_Muscle on April 26, 2008, 06:57:11 PM
Gimme a break 600$ is nothing and even the 1200$ aint shit. Bush fucked us ALL and the high gas prices are a thanks to all his buddies in big oil. HE is laughin all the way to the bank as he exits the White House. The 600$ will not offset 1yr of increased gas prices so go fuck yourslf G.W.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: The Coach on April 26, 2008, 06:57:20 PM
Are you sure that you spending time thinking about it would actually amount to something? 8)

Good point....probably not :-\
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: The Coach on April 26, 2008, 06:58:18 PM
  That was 44 years ago, what do you mean you havent had time to think about it ?

Dude, not exactly at the top of my agenda!
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: The Coach on April 26, 2008, 07:00:34 PM
Gimme a break 600$ is nothing and even the 1200$ aint shit. Bush fucked us ALL and the high gas prices are a thanks to all his buddies in big oil. HE is laughin all the way to the bank as he exits the White House. The 600$ will not offset 1yr of increased gas prices so go fuck yourslf G.W.

Oh God no, not another one ::)

Then like I said earlier.......give back the check when and if you get it. I got money riding you won't!
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Post by: tu_holmes on April 26, 2008, 07:16:30 PM
Oh God no, not another one ::)

Then like I said earlier.......give back the check when and if you get it. I got money riding you won't!
Seriously Joe... Do you really think it's a coincidence that an oil guy becomes President and gas prices go up by 300 percent?

Seriously.
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Post by: gordiano on April 26, 2008, 07:29:20 PM
Your wrong, golf takes skill and a certain degree of athleticism.....lifting weights doesn't

I disagree.

Fat people with zero athleticism are "pro" Golfers. The question isn't whether or not Golf requires skill, because it does. It's the athleticism that's lacking.

The day they make those fat, lazy fucks run from one hole to the next, I'll consider it a sport. Right now as it stands, it's just an over hyped, televised hobby for people who couldn't cut it at real athletics.
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Post by: The Coach on April 26, 2008, 07:44:23 PM
Most on tour came from an athletic background....but if a person has the talent to play golf and make more than most baseball or football players make without getting the shit beat out of you everyday, would you do it?
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Post by: The Coach on April 26, 2008, 07:47:17 PM
TuHolms.....no, I don't think that at all. Do you think that he and Cheney are the only ones that invested? There are PLENTY of Dem/Lib investors as well.
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Post by: tu_holmes on April 26, 2008, 07:53:29 PM
TuHolms.....no, I don't think that at all. Do you think that he and Cheney are the only ones that invested? There are PLENTY of Dem/Lib investors as well.

No, I don't think they are the only ones invested,  but it is far too much of a coincidence that Oil prices have skyrocketed since he's been in office... far too much.
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Post by: The Coach on April 26, 2008, 08:08:55 PM
Since he's been in office? Do you think that its realistic to think that we could have 2001 prices in 2008? Its just been in the last year or so that gas and oil have really risen....when the democrats take over congress??

Before that we had the biggest economic turn around in recent times so to solely blame Bush and his cabinet isn't fair.
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Post by: tu_holmes on April 26, 2008, 08:40:21 PM
Since he's been in office? Do you think that its realistic to think that we could have 2001 prices in 2008? Its just been in the last year or so that gas and oil have really risen....when the democrats take over congress??

Before that we had the biggest economic turn around in recent times so to solely blame Bush and his cabinet isn't fair.

Really?

I beg to differ. Consistent rise in cost since 2001.

Now... This is a Canadian chart, but since we tend to trade the oil on the US market, I'd say it is applicable all around.

(http://fuelfocus.nrcan.gc.ca/fact_sheets/images/timeline_e.gif)
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Post by: Tre on April 26, 2008, 09:12:25 PM
No, I don't think they are the only ones invested,  but it is far too much of a coincidence that Oil prices have skyrocketed since he's been in office... far too much.

They're ALL the blame.

The left-wing rich don't want a thriving middle class and the right-wing rich don't want a middle class at all.
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Post by: chaos on April 26, 2008, 10:47:15 PM

Aaaahahahahahahahahahaha haha, as is Milos...hahahahahaha!
This was about me and you, yet again, you bring Milos into this.........obsess much.

I bet when you are in church, down on your knees, it's Milos you are praying to. ;)
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: gtbro1 on April 26, 2008, 10:55:16 PM
Since he's been in office? Do you think that its realistic to think that we could have 2001 prices in 2008? Its just been in the last year or so that gas and oil have really risen....when the democrats take over congress??

Before that we had the biggest economic turn around in recent times so to solely blame Bush and his cabinet isn't fair.

  where you been gas started going up in 2005

 
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 27, 2008, 12:20:58 AM
Since he's been in office? Do you think that its realistic to think that we could have 2001 prices in 2008? Its just been in the last year or so that gas and oil have really risen....when the democrats take over congress??

Gas in 2001 was $1.19

Gas in 2001 is now what, $3.60?

It's tripled.  if you blame the dems for the weakend Dollar, well, I will lose a lot of respect for you Joe.  The dollar is weak because of a lot of factors dating back decades, before Bush, before Clinton.  It's a world global trend.  Mostly, people are losing confidence in the dollar (and it's value dropping as a result) because world opinion of US leaders - both dem and repub - is falling.

The other countries hate us and our global expansion (war for reasons other than 'absolutely the last option')

If you blame the dems for gas prices, well, you can do that.  But you're wrong, and I'm embarassed that you - a fellow repub - would embarass your party by doing so.

US aggression = resentment = policy changes overseas = dollar abandoned in more places = dollar weakened = $1 buys less gas = price of gas goes up.  PERIOD.

Now, play some golf and stop blaming the dems for everything.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: bigdumbbell on April 27, 2008, 05:06:53 AM
Gas in 2001 was $1.19

Gas in 2001 is now what, $3.60?

It's tripled.  if you blame the dems for the weakend Dollar, well, I will lose a lot of respect for you Joe.  The dollar is weak because of a lot of factors dating back decades, before Bush, before Clinton.  It's a world global trend.  Mostly, people are losing confidence in the dollar (and it's value dropping as a result) because world opinion of US leaders - both dem and repub - is falling.

The other countries hate us and our global expansion (war for reasons other than 'absolutely the last option')

If you blame the dems for gas prices, well, you can do that.  But you're wrong, and I'm embarassed that you - a fellow repub - would embarass your party by doing so.

US aggression = resentment = policy changes overseas = dollar abandoned in more places = dollar weakened = $1 buys less gas = price of gas goes up.  PERIOD.

Now, play some golf and stop blaming the dems for everything.

diesel is 4 50
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 27, 2008, 05:10:32 AM
diesel is 4 50

Want to bet the prices drop just before the Nov election, and the repubs take credit for it?  Gas jumped like crazy in summer 2006, then Bush had sec of treasury Paulson move some $ around so it dropped almost a dollar, in october 2004, and Bush gloated on TV that he fixed it.

On the politics board, we then noted how prices immediately climbed once the election passed, to even higher levels (and you know how high they are today).  later it came out HOW he dropped prices, and it was so obviously a political move...

But I'm betting prices drop in october again.  And I'm betting the same ppl who fell for it in 2006, fall for it again.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Tre on April 27, 2008, 06:30:09 AM
It's a world global trend.  Mostly, people are losing confidence in the dollar (and it's value dropping as a result) because world opinion of US leaders - both dem and repub - is falling.

Please explain how the lack of confidence in the dollar is somehow tied to 'world opinion of U.S. leaders'.

I've never heard that asserted before.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 27, 2008, 07:00:28 AM
Please explain how the lack of confidence in the dollar is somehow tied to 'world opinion of U.S. leaders'.
I've never heard that asserted before.

some decision makers in other nations believe our leaders (as buch has) are willing to sacrifice longterm US interests for their own shortterm personal gains.  Therefore investing their nations resources becomes more risky as the longterm sustainability of the USA in a world where its losing more competitive advantages becomes less 'automatic'.

Another 4, 8 or 12 years of the president (or VP) using the office to further the company he CEO'd until he was elected president, and borrowing a tril a year to pay that company, and yes, longterm confidence in the US wanes.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: tu_holmes on April 27, 2008, 12:31:16 PM
diesel is 4 50

True and for the longest time Diesel was cheaper than gas due to a more efficient refinement process.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: dov on April 27, 2008, 01:55:06 PM
haha...I'll take the $600, but WTF!!!!!!????? It's like pouring a glass of water into the ocean and expecting it to rise! :'(
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 27, 2008, 02:26:41 PM
haha...I'll take the $600, but WTF!!!!!!????? It's like pouring a glass of water into the ocean and expecting it to rise! :'(

135 million cups of water might help though :)

And it's all a stall because Bush doesn't want an economic crash/recession to happen during his presidency.  He'd love to hand the reigns to Obama on Jan 20, have the recession happen on Jan 21st, and then you would have your getbig political expert neotaints gloating about how Obama wrecked the economy.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Meltdown on April 27, 2008, 05:21:44 PM
My $600 is going straight to casino.Boooooooooooooooo oooM. ;D
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: sgt. d on April 27, 2008, 09:30:22 PM
Im glad I make 8 figures a year
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: HUGEPECS on April 28, 2008, 06:21:48 AM
what will the bodybuilders buy with those checks? anybody got any bright ideas?.... ;D
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Tre on April 28, 2008, 06:49:17 AM
what will the bodybuilders buy with those checks? anybody got any bright ideas?.... ;D

Pre-paid legal.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: sgt. d on April 28, 2008, 06:56:42 AM
what will the bodybuilders buy with those checks? anybody got any bright ideas?.... ;D

save for the future....
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: dr.chimps on April 28, 2008, 07:56:07 AM
135 million cups of water might help though :)

And it's all a stall because Bush doesn't want an economic crash/recession to happen during his presidency.  He'd love to hand the reigns to Obama on Jan 20, have the recession happen on Jan 21st, and then you would have your getbig political expert neotaints gloating about how Obama wrecked the economy.
Hehe. But he's cool with being responsible for the biggest foreign policy/military blunder since Vietnam!?  :o
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Heywood on April 28, 2008, 08:00:18 AM
Once those checks are sent out the economy will be cured....
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Tre on April 28, 2008, 08:03:58 AM
Once those checks are sent out the economy will be cured....

Especially if everyone uses the money to join www.brotherspace.com...
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: keanu on April 28, 2008, 08:25:57 AM

US aggression = resentment = policy changes overseas = dollar abandoned in more places = dollar weakened = $1 buys less gas = price of gas goes up.  PERIOD.

The dollar is weak for many reasons. Lately it's tanking bad (lost about 30% of value in past few years) due to the continual printing of money and lack of economic growth. The printing of money at a mad rate is leading to crazy inflation. We are not producing as much anymore. We're importing goods more.

  It will get much worse before it gets better.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: nder98 on April 28, 2008, 08:28:11 AM
Starting monday, direct deposits of the econimic stimulus package will begin.

$600 per person if you make under 75k.
$1200 per couple if you make under $150k.
$300 per kid.

The money is arriving early!

Yes! its paying for my flight and hotel to Mandelay Bay! ;D
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: 240 is Back on April 28, 2008, 09:22:40 AM
checks start coming today.
Direct deposit to those who got their tax return direct deposit.

last 2 digits of social security # from 00 to 20 is today.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: Mark Kerr on April 28, 2008, 09:30:55 AM
checks start coming today.
Direct deposit to those who got their tax return direct deposit.

last 2 digits of social security # from 00 to 20 is today.


I'm sure they won't be able to get to everyone with the last 2 digits of social security # from 00 to 20 today.

That's alot of people.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: milfer on April 28, 2008, 09:31:57 AM
my last 2 digits of social security are 63 when are mine going out
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: 240 is Back on April 28, 2008, 09:39:44 AM
my last 2 digits of social security are 63 when are mine going out

wed i think.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: Matt C on April 28, 2008, 09:55:41 AM
If people use the money to pay bills, isn't that still a good thing, if they are paying bills to say for example, the telephone company?  It would be a bad thing if they pay credit cards off at the bank which ultimately fuels the Rothschilds dynasty.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: Mark Kerr on April 28, 2008, 09:59:31 AM
This isn't free money. We will pay it back with next years tax's.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: 240 is Back on April 28, 2008, 10:00:35 AM
no matter how people spend the money, it boosts the economy.  Even paying off your credit card balance gives the banks more $ to put into new places. 
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: Matt C on April 28, 2008, 10:02:59 AM
no matter how people spend the money, it boosts the economy.  Even paying off your credit card balance gives the banks more $ to put into new places. 

I suppose that is true.  Would it be accurate to state that paying the bank would be an inefficient use of the money compared to regular day-to-day spending though?
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: YoungBlood on April 28, 2008, 10:05:49 AM
It would be a bad thing if they pay credit cards off at the bank which ultimately fuels the Rothschilds dynasty.



Even paying off your credit card balance gives the banks more $ to put into new places. 

This is where my political knowledge and apathy for this sort of thing hurt me, I think.
I've got a few $$$ dollars left on my credit cards to pay off, and these checks going out are the perfect thing for me to pay them off. This frees up the rest of my money to buy whatever I want rather than (with my mentality) being "forced" to pay off the credit cards.
I would much rather pay off the credit cards now with that money, or my money if the checks didn't come, NOW than continue to pay interest on the cards and end up paying more in the end.
Forgive the ignorance, but how is this better or worse for me? :-\
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: 240 is Back on April 28, 2008, 10:06:23 AM
I suppose that is true.  Would it be accurate to state that paying the bank would be an inefficient use of the money compared to regular day-to-day spending though?

day-to-day spending... walmart for groceries, Virgin for a new CD, firstchoice for a haircut, BP for a tank of gas... this money lets these companies pay their creditors... so the $ ends up at the banks so they can loosen credit strings due to less risk.

I don't know how to judge 'efficiency' of spending... of course paying off credit is more important because youre paying interest on it.  
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: 240 is Back on April 28, 2008, 10:08:37 AM
This is where my political knowledge and apathy for this sort of thing hurt me, I think.
I've got a few $$$ dollars left on my credit cards to pay off, and these checks going out are the perfect thing for me to pay them off. This frees up the rest of my money to buy whatever I want rather than (with my mentality) being "forced" to pay off the credit cards.
I would much rather pay off the credit cards now with that money, or my money if the checks didn't come, NOW than continue to pay interest on the cards and end up paying more in the end.
Forgive the ignorance, but how is this better or worse for me? :-\

If you spent $100 on shoes last month, it'll cost you $102 this month due to interest.  If you don't pay if off, it'll be $104 the next month.  (or whatever numbers)

paying off credit cards is always better.  Paying interest on $ you borrowed costs more, even if only a few bucks per month.  Of course, it's very useful, if the pleasure or profitability of having the $ early is worth it.  If you can use your credit card to buy a bucket of paint, and make $150 painting a house, then yes, the 50 cents you'll pay in interest on that paint can this month is worth it.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: Heywood on April 28, 2008, 10:14:49 AM
Interest rates have been kept artificially low in order to keep the stock market strong. 

The side effects are inflation, loss in the dollar's value abroad, and the mortgage crisis.

So why keep lowering the interest rate?  Because somehow W. has control over the Federal Reserve. 
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: YoungBlood on April 28, 2008, 10:24:07 AM
If you spent $100 on shoes last month, it'll cost you $102 this month due to interest.  If you don't pay if off, it'll be $104 the next month.  (or whatever numbers)

paying off credit cards is always better.  Paying interest on $ you borrowed costs more, even if only a few bucks per month.  Of course, it's very useful, if the pleasure or profitability of having the $ early is worth it.  If you can use your credit card to buy a bucket of paint, and make $150 painting a house, then yes, the 50 cents you'll pay in interest on that paint can this month is worth it.

I've always been of the ilk that if you can't pay cash for it, then don't buy it. Only on bigger purchases (new guitar, supplements bought online etc...) do I use a credit card. I've also been doing this to build credit history- I have an excellent credit score, just not that long of a history.
This past summer I had some unexpected car problems that ended up costing me about $8k over the course of it all, and now I've gotten all the cards this money was put on, down to about $400 each. With my tax return and the checks being issued today, I'll pretty much have all the cards paid off.
Like what you explained above, I've always thought it was better to buy something and pay it off faster because if you pay even the small 2% on a $100, that's $2 more, and over the course of years that two bucks can really add up.
On a side note, it's scary to think that the average American has the credit card debt of 20k. :o Most people rack up a ton of charges and then it takes around 20+ years to pay the balance off because interest, they continually charge the cards and a whole host of other factors.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: Tre on April 28, 2008, 10:35:12 AM
no matter how people spend the money, it boosts the economy.  Even paying off your credit card balance gives the banks more $ to put into new places. 

You're 100% incorrect.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: 240 is Back on April 28, 2008, 10:37:08 AM
You're 100% incorrect.

Educate me.  I'm just here to learn, like everyone else :)

If 20 million Americans send $1.2 billion to Citibank this week, that doesn't allow Citi to invest that money, loosen credit restrictions, etc?
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: sgt. d on April 28, 2008, 01:36:21 PM
oh goody theyre giving us back our own money.  ::)

Fucking bush I cant wait until obama takes over
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: Mark Kerr on April 28, 2008, 01:41:38 PM
Educate me.  I'm just here to learn, like everyone else :)

If 20 million Americans send $1.2 billion to Citibank this week, that doesn't allow Citi to invest that money, loosen credit restrictions, etc?

$600.00 isn't shit. That is 3 weeks worth of gas and food. Plus we have to pay this back next year.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: 240 is Back on April 28, 2008, 06:50:41 PM
what are the details of paying it back?  Is it $600 in income?  Or are they going to deduct 600 from our tax return?
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: Tre on April 28, 2008, 06:54:56 PM
Educate me.  I'm just here to learn, like everyone else :)

If 20 million Americans send $1.2 billion to Citibank this week, that doesn't allow Citi to invest that money, loosen credit restrictions, etc?

I don't have the total cost of this program (in dollars), but I know to an absolute certainty that it cost more than any benefit it could possibly bring.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: 240 is Back on April 28, 2008, 06:58:35 PM
I don't have the total cost of this program (in dollars), but I know to an absolute certainty that it cost more than any benefit it could possibly bring.

the benefit?  easy.  it stalls a major economic collapse until 5 minutes after the dems take office.  Then the repubs can blame Obama for the economy.  And you konw there are people here who will do it too.  Obama ruined the economy.  LMAO...
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: Moosejay on April 28, 2008, 07:03:47 PM
the benefit?  easy.  it stalls a major economic collapse until 5 minutes after the dems take office.  Then the repubs can blame Obama for the economy.  And you konw there are people here who will do it too.  Obama ruined the economy.  LMAO...

The economy is not ruined...not even close.

Creational fear from the liberal media.

They say 'boo' on CNN, and say, 'in these times of uncertainty'

Tell me, then, when are times CERTAIN?

Never
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: 240 is Back on April 28, 2008, 07:13:06 PM
The economy is not ruined...not even close.
Creational fear from the liberal media.
They say 'boo' on CNN, and say, 'in these times of uncertainty'
Tell me, then, when are times CERTAIN?
Never

We're not near ruined, but you would have a hard time listing the tools we have at our disposal to stop this descent or return to our previous highs.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: Moosejay on April 28, 2008, 07:15:55 PM
We're not near ruined, but you would have a hard time listing the tools we have at our disposal to stop this descent or return to our previous highs.

True.

But remember...

The DOW was up to 14000 several months ago

The media keeps using that as a benchmark

But that is unfair

The 14000 number was not real

Meaning

It was not sustained for a significant enough length of time to connote anything of actual growth or value

So, if you are referring to this as a high, I'd have to respectfully disagree.

The stock market is actually stroing and rebounding

But don't expect Neal Cavuto to tell you that
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: Tre on April 28, 2008, 07:18:04 PM
The economy is not ruined...not even close.

Creational fear from the liberal media.

They say 'boo' on CNN, and say, 'in these times of uncertainty'

Tell me, then, when are times CERTAIN?

Never

And there's a terrorist hiding around every corner.   ::)
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: Mark Kerr on April 29, 2008, 04:09:40 AM
what are the details of paying it back?  Is it $600 in income?  Or are they going to deduct 600 from our tax return?

This will work just like it did in 2002. This is just an advance on next years tax return.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: thewickedtruth on April 29, 2008, 06:44:30 AM
wait wait wait... EVERYONE is getting a check from teh government?!  ???
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: The Coach on April 29, 2008, 08:21:06 AM
wait wait wait... EVERYONE is getting a check from teh government?!  ???

Just about.....but the libs that bitching about it won't hesitate to cash it!
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: gymguy on April 29, 2008, 08:39:27 AM
And there's a terrorist hiding around every corner.   ::)

They have to hide, cause President Bush has scared the shit out of them. They like to hide and prey on the innocent...just a bunch of hating wusses.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: Tre on April 29, 2008, 08:45:43 AM
Just about.....but the libs that bitching about it won't hesitate to cash it!

I wouldn't accept it. 
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: tu_holmes on April 29, 2008, 11:30:19 AM
Just about.....but the libs that bitching about it won't hesitate to cash it!

I'm not getting one and I would cash it, but what would happen if you didn't?

How long is a government check valid for? I'd use it to pay my taxes for next year if I could hold on to it that long.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: Benny B on April 29, 2008, 12:26:52 PM
I'm not getting one and I would cash it, but what would happen if you didn't?

How long is a government check valid for? I'd use it to pay my taxes for next year if I could hold on to it that long.

Then you could just that shit in a savings account and use it to pay next year's taxes.  ::) 
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: tu_holmes on April 29, 2008, 01:08:43 PM
Then you could just that shit in a savings account and use it to pay next year's taxes.  ::) 

The point was not to cash it until next year to make a point Benny.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: War-Horse on April 29, 2008, 04:12:22 PM
So we borrowed the money from China, so we can give it back to them, by buying stuff from China.


Brilliant. What dumbass thought of this??
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on April 29, 2008, 05:30:07 PM
This is just borrowing money of tomarrow for today.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: technokc on April 29, 2008, 06:03:59 PM
So we borrowed the money from China, so we can give it back to them, by buying stuff from China.


Brilliant. What dumbass thought of this??

Honestly the thing about this is totally brilliant, what it does is tie everything to the dollar so it becomes important to the entire world.  Lets say inflation completely takes the dollar away to the point it is useless, how much buying power would China have if we repaid them with shit?  Nothing.  So it is in everyones best interest to not let the dollar become  non existence.  Of course they dont mind if it dips some, but the destruction of the dollar could not happen.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: CQ on April 29, 2008, 06:45:28 PM
So we borrowed the money from China, so we can give it back to them, by buying stuff from China.


Brilliant. What dumbass thought of this??

I myself completely miss the entire point here also. How does borrowing even more money, getting further in debt, buying more Chinese made goods - help the economy?

To me it almost seems like a popularity exercise for Bush, as present company excluded, there must be a legion of dumbasses who have no clue about the economic state who will simply recall Bush gave them $600.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: technokc on April 29, 2008, 06:53:52 PM
I myself completely miss the entire point here also. How does borrowing even more money, getting further in debt, buying more Chinese made goods - help the economy?

To me it almost seems like a popularity exercise for Bush, as present company excluded, there must be a legion of dumbasses who have no clue about the economic state who will simply recall Bush gave them $600.

It doesnt help out you and me per say, however the more dollars China owns the more they want the dollar to be worth something, so it is in their best interest to keep the dollar from sinking too low, basically it is like an insurance policy from the dollar ever completly crashing like other currencies have in the past.
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds in 3 days!
Post by: Straw Man on April 29, 2008, 07:41:27 PM
600 US dollars? Lordy! I'm having a case of the vapors!! Catch me if I faint dead away. 600 bucks  ;D Two tanks of gas, one week of groceries, and dinner for two at Sizzler.

bush is a mass murderer. he should keep the $600 to buy napalm to drop on kids.

hahahaha

literally laughed out loud at this post

Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: milfer on May 09, 2008, 10:24:45 AM
so i know we are all millionares here on getbig but has anybody got their checks yet???
Title: Re: Pres Bush will be sending out our $600 refunds TODAY
Post by: 240 is Back on May 09, 2008, 11:05:30 AM
i got mine,  they came 1 week before they were supposed to.