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Getbig Main Boards => General Topics => Topic started by: Moosejay on May 10, 2008, 06:24:39 AM
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What should we do?
I say
Hate them back.....
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Love makes the world go 'round.
Why are you trying to stop the world from spinning??
You evil bastard!!
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the world doesnt hate america....just look at the line waiting to get their h11b visa greencard!
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Kill them all.
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Love makes the world go 'round.
Why are you trying to stop the world from spinning??
You evil bastard!!
Ha!
Just my sarcastic play on a false propagation by the media.
The world does not hate us.
ENVY us, of course.
There is a natural tendency to scorn the top cat, naturally.
Forgive me...I AM a jingoist, afterall
Moosejay approved :)
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I think the world dislikes Mr bush more than anything. Most of us who at one time thought he was a decent fella have now revised our thinking.
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I think the world dislikes Mr bush more than anything. Most of us who at one time thought he was a decent fella have now revised our thinking.
Misdirected to aim so much acrimony at one person.
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The world does not hate us.
Would you like to compare world public opinion polls from 1999 with 2008?
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I think it is quite scary really. The implications for being the most hated nation on earth can have quite catastrophic consequences for both the American people and its economy.
Americans are hated wherever they go. I think it has a lot to do with international policy that has been promoted from its successive government bodies.
Not hating, just my observation.
Nah...I dunno, Hank.
Whenever countries need help, they forget their 'hate' and the hand extends out to You-Know-Who.
I don't believe, respect or appreciate such selectivism and ambivalence.
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World don't hate America , they hate the American goverment ,American international policies,
PS: I hate them too .
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Would you like to compare world public opinion polls from 1999 with 2008?
No.
Surveys and polls....
I have NEVER been a participant or subject in ANY survey or poll.
MY rule of thumb is this:
If I was not a part of such a query...then its tenets could never apply to me.
How could they?
Beware the clandestine powers of the yellow media....
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I don't believe, respect or appreciate such selectivism and ambivalence.
If you don't believe it, then it doesn't exist to you.
If it doesn't exist, how can you either respect or appreciate it?
Dude, you've started multiple threads attempting to justify our brand of exported democracy (modern day colonialism). it is what it is. Don't try to explain it away. It's been like this since mankind started - you try to exploit your neighbors for your own gain.
Thanks to the internet, you have a billion people worldwide who are, for the first time, AWARE of what we're doing for oil and strategic positioning. They're not happy, and many hate the US for our policy of elective wars (remember, taleban offered to deliver osama and we preferred to invade, and saddam surrendered at the last minute and we put a JDAM in the bunker he called from...)
It's how the world works, and no smart american would change it and lower our standard of living. However to start threads explaining it, or justifying it, is fruitless. We take their shit to be #1. It's that simple. Go eat your pancakes and smile and accept the reality of things.
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World don't hate America , they hate the American goverment ,American international policies,
PS: I hate them too .
Yes, the same policies and government that pulls more nation's asses out of the proverbial griddle than I care to recall
PS: Use some of the hate to fuel your workouts...although you already look great, Whateva, you can always improve ;)
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I'm not American, I don't hate America, but I sure as hell think Bush is an asshole. I think most people outside of the USA probably feel the same way, but misdirect it onto the whole country
I have never awoken a blamed ONE MAN for my plight.
That'd be asinine and would include me in the 'safety in numbers', "do-nothing" set.
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If you don't believe it, then it doesn't exist to you.
If it doesn't exist, how can you either respect or appreciate it?
Dude, you've started multiple threads attempting to justify our brand of exported democracy (modern day colonialism). it is what it is. Don't try to explain it away. It's been like this since mankind started - you try to exploit your neighbors for your own gain.
Thanks to the internet, you have a billion people worldwide who are, for the first time, AWARE of what we're doing for oil and strategic positioning. They're not happy, and many hate the US for our policy of elective wars (remember, taleban offered to deliver osama and we preferred to invade, and saddam surrendered at the last minute and we put a JDAM in the bunker he called from...)
It's how the world works, and no smart american would change it and lower our standard of living. However to start threads explaining it, or justifying it, is fruitless. We take their shit to be #1. It's that simple. Go eat your pancakes and smile and accept the reality of things.
240, I am a jingoist.
Google it, pardnuh.... :)
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World don't hate all America. Some very good American people I know who hate the corrupt government - all billionaire bastards with their corrupt land and arms deals - and the going to fight wars where no congressman's son ever fights.
It is the trailer trash simpletons who annoy us. The dumb thick meth addicts who talk about how great 'their' nation is when in fact they live in shitty trailers and can't spell.
Go to France and German etc.. and you will see that the average person is so much more intelligent and worldly, it is frightening.
Also, America need to STOP messing in the affairs of the Muslims otherwise more of the soldiers will keep dying. Time to leave and worry about your own country.
You couldn't find Osama and Iraq has seen many innocents killed by US imperialist greed.
It the American people in the firing line, until the infidels leave Arab lands then no one is safe. Very sad.
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Yes, the same policies and government that pulls more nation's asses out of the proverbial griddle than I care to recall
Never did it for free , always got something out of it.
PS: Use some of the hate to fuel your workouts...although you already look great, Whateva, you can always improve ;)
I will let you catch up first, before I start improving :)
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Okay, Sharma.
tell me
If we did stop 'messing' with the muslims
What, exactly,
would become of the Muslims?
Would they all of a sudden STOP fighting
And all of a sudden
Start learning how to feed their own children?
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IMHO and I come from Australia, America is the most dominent country and most powerful. Be proud!!!!! 8) As for those things called muslims............
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Never did it for free , always got something out of it.I will let you catch up first, before I start improving :)
Nothing has value if it is done for free. NOTHING
As a taxpayer...I'd say that would be VERY bad business
Have respect for your elders, youngster ;)
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IMHO and I come from Australia, America is the most dominent country and most powerful. Be proud!!!!! 8) As for those things called muslims............
All hail Tazzie!
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240, I am a jingoist.
Google it, pardnuh.... :)
Jingoism is defined in the Oxford English Dictionary as "extreme patriotism in the form of aggressive foreign policy".[1] In practice, it refers to the advocation of the use of threats of or actual force against other countries in order to safeguard what they perceive as their country's national interests, and colloquially to excessive bias in judging one's own country as superior to others.
By that definition, I am too.
However I don't feel the need to start threads saying incorrect things like:
"The world does not hate us.
Why discredit your (IMO correct) position of "jingoism" by adding obvious falsehoods to your statement? It's like saying the sky is blue but I crap golden eggs. People begin to doubt the legitimacy of my sky statement because the other is an obvious lie.
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It is the trailer trash simpletons who annoy us. The dumb thick meth addicts who talk about how great 'their' nation is when in fact they live in shitty trailers and can't spell.
rest assured, we got rid of him ...
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Jingoism is defined in the Oxford English Dictionary as "extreme patriotism in the form of aggressive foreign policy".[1] In practice, it refers to the advocation of the use of threats of or actual force against other countries in order to safeguard what they perceive as their country's national interests, and colloquially to excessive bias in judging one's own country as superior to others.
By that definition, I am too.
However I don't feel the need to start threads saying incorrect things like:
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Why discredit your (IMO correct) position of "jingoism" by adding obvious falsehoods to your statement? It's like saying the sky is blue but I crap golden eggs. People begin to doubt the legitimacy of my sky statement because the other is an obvious lie.
I don't lie, 240.
At least, I am not obvious when I do it.
Some of the folks here...with their gloom and doom...well...I don't know why some of you bother getting out of bed each day.
I fancy myself as an American who goes out every day and creates things.
Its how this place we all CHOOSE to live in and enjoy was built.
I CHOOSE not to buy into and believe socialist propaganda.
Bleieve what you want. That is your right.
God bless,
Moosejay approved
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If we did stop 'messing' with the muslims
You are not part of the 'we'. The real power men in America are maybe 000000000.00000001 of population. They are big business leaders and dominate the economy. The real policy makers do not see uneducated trailer park trash like you as part of any 'we'. They look down on you as dogshit.
They see you as the nobodies who mow their huge lawns and go die in their illegal wars.
You have nothing in common with the west and east coast elite who run America. They would spit on some nobody, skinny ex-bodybuilder who never amounted to jack shit like you.
Smell the coffee.
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rest assured, we got rid of him ...
Ha...INDEED we did!
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You are not part of the 'we'. The real power men in America are maybe 000000000.00000001 of population. They are big business leaders and dominate the economy. The real policy makers do not see uneducated trailer park trash like you as part of any 'we'. They look down on you as dogshit.
They see you as the nobodies who mow their huge lawns and go die in their illegal wars.
You have nothing in common with the west and east coast elite who run America. They would spit on some nobody, skinny ex-bodybuilder who never amounted to jack shit.
Smell the coffee.
Well, you can smell the Gold, Frankensense and Muir (sp) :)
I am actually considered part of the elite...if you want to look at numbers.
And I have always avered that things are controlled by by a fraction of a percentage of folks here. That's nothing new.
You attack me. Fine.
But poor old Nasser, I have already beseeched you to please focus some of your aggression you learned when you received a real machine gun at the gae of two in your dust-riddn scumbowl of an excuse for a nation upon the suffering minions of your woebegone countrymen.
You will be better for it, smelly.
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I don't lie, 240.
I CHOOSE not to buy into and believe socialist propaganda.
In 1999, when world opinion of the US was very high, was that "socialist propaganda"?
Or, in 2008, when world opinion is low... is that "socialist propaganda"?
You cannot have it both ways.
To me, it sounds like you're wrestling with some demon inside you. Maybe it's religious dogma conflicting with the nature of imperialism. Maybe you saw a pic of an Iraqi baby with limbs blown off and had a moment of self-doubt. Maybe something is eating at you.
True jungoists don't go out of their way to create lies to support their belief system. They just believe what they know to be the fcking truth. I mean, you don't walk down the street and tell everyone you meet how straight you are, and how evil homosexuality is... you just don't go for the c0ck. It's the people that talk about how straight they are, that you wonder about...
Bottom line is that if you truly have jingoist beliefs, you shouldn't feel the need to create lies to justify your belief system. You should just give the world the finger, shrug off their hatred, and have a nice day. To deny they feel that way, and cite "socialist propaganda" when its based in solid statistics, certainly undermines the jingoist doctrine and makes you look like a wussy :)
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I am actually considered part of the elite...
Therein lies the problem. You equate an upper class income with "the elite".
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In 1999, when world opinion of the US was very high, was that "socialist propaganda"?
Or, in 2008, when world opinion is low... is that "socialist propaganda"?
You cannot have it both ways.
To me, it sounds like you're wrestling with some demon inside you. Maybe it's religious dogma conflicting with the nature of imperialism. Maybe you saw a pic of an Iraqi baby with limbs blown off and had a moment of self-doubt. Maybe something is eating at you.
True jungoists don't go out of their way to create lies to support their belief system. They just believe what they know to be the fcking truth. I mean, you don't walk down the street and tell everyone you meet how straight you are, and how evil homosexuality is... you just don't go for the c0ck. It's the people that talk about how straight they are, that you wonder about...
Bottom line is that if you truly have jingoist beliefs, you shouldn't feel the need to create lies to justify your belief system. You should just give the world the finger, shrug off their hatred, and have a nice day. To deny they feel that way, and cite "socialist propaganda" when its based in solid statistics, certainly undermines the jingoist doctrine and makes you look like a wussy :)
We all have demons.
Just the fact that we exert ourselves lifing weights, aggressively, proves this.
if you think you have no 'demons' you are fooling yourself...if you want to keep talking about me fooling MYSELF...
Yes, I have plenty of idiosyncrasies and foibles.
You are disingenuous to the hilt in imperiously avering that you go about your life without them.
Mooesjay approved ;)
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What should we do?
I say
Hate them back.....
LOL. Two wrongs make a right! Moosejay approved?
/look. most of the world has a very ambivalent view of the u.s. yes, they hate the foreign relations part and crushing cultural exports, and yet by the same margin it would be the destination that most would emigrate to. :-\
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Therein lies the problem. You equate an upper class income with "the elite".
No.
Going at it with Sharma and his numbers game.
I equate my worth with ACHIEVEMENT...which is what built this country.
If numbers align themselves with achievement...well, that is just part of our system
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LOL. Two wrongs make a right! Moosejay approved?
/look. most of the world has a very ambivalent view of the u.s. yes, they hate the foreign relations part and crushing cultural exports, and yet by the same margin it would be the destination that most would emigrate to. :-\
Hey Chimpy!
Just some Saturaday morn fun...
I say this tongue in cheek. of course
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We all have demons.
if you think you have no 'demons' you are fooling yourself...if you want to keep talking about me fooling MYSELF...
Yes, I have plenty of idiosyncrasies and foibles.
You are disingenuous to the hilt in imperiously avering that you go about your life without them.
Your demons seem to have been awakened. I don't recall you starting threads to justify your own belief system last week.
You're not trying to convince strangers on a message board that jingoism is correct;
You're trying to convince Moosejay.
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Its 1210am sunday morning here.........
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Your demons seem to have been awakened. I don't recall you starting threads to justify your own belief system last week.
You're not trying to convince strangers on a message board that jingoism is correct;
You're trying to convince Moosejay.
Yeesh...RELAX, Sigmond.....have some Saturday morn joe
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Yeesh...RELAX, Sigmond.....have some Saturday morn joe
I'm waiting for my pancakes to finish cooking and sure do love to scrap in the morning.
So are you having trouble choosing between hilary and obama? ;)
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I'm waiting for my pancakes to finish cooking and sure do love to scrap in the morning.
So are you having trouble choosing between hilary and obama? ;)
Come now, Mein freund, McCain the old Fart.
It was avered that Arnie should run as his VP...Maria said "no...he can't...I have already looked it up..."
If A could run...I'd vote for him
Only bc
Whenever he says something will be done
it gets DONE
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Well, you can smell the Gold, Frankensense and Muir (sp) :)
I am actually considered part of the elite...if you want to look at numbers.
You will be better for it, smelly.
No you aren't. Not at all.
The elite group of Americans who actually run the country (Ivy league, powerful businessmen) are not broken down, attention whore old bodybuilders.
They wouldn't dream of even coming here and posting rubbish about being in hospital. They wouldn't call people juvenile names and type stereotypical racist nonsense.
They wouldn't have your pathetic grasp of your own language - my spelling and grammar is far better than yours and English is my third language.
They would laugh at you. See you as a drain on America. If you entered their gentlemen's clubs they would shun you, or think you're the janitor.
You reek of failure. You are an old,old man who attention whores and posts pictures of his mangled body on a forum.
You are not only not part of the elite..you are bottom rung. A doctor or lawyer would think you a terrible loser.
You are typical American trash. The kind of dumb idiot who your own country's policy makers despise and foreigners laugh at your misguided notion of being part of the 'we'.
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Come now, Mein freund, McCain the old Fart.
I don't blame you. If you're in the upper class, Mccain will continue the status quo as far as the Bush economic policy. Obama getting in means your pocketbook will take a hit. And when the recession comes from this spend-first/tax-never policy, the millions of desperate, hungry unemployed people will pose no threat at all to you or your standard of life. In fact, their crime and begging will only make your coffee taste better each morning.
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No you aren't. Not at all.
The elite group of Americans who actually run the country (Ivy league, powerful businessmen) are not broken down, attention whore old bodybuilders.
They wouldn't dream of even coming here and posting rubbish about being in hospital. They wouldn't call people juvenile names and type stereotypical racist nonsense.
They wouldn't have your pathetic grasp of your own language - my spelling and grammar is far better than yours and English is my third language.
They would laugh at you. See you as a drain on America. If you entered their gentlemen's clubs they would shun you, or think you're the janitor.
You reek of failure. You are an old,old man who attention whores and posts pictures of his mangled body on a forum.
You are not only not part of the elite..you are bottom rung. A doctor or lawyer would think you a terrible loser.
You are typical American trash. The kind of dumb idiot who your own country's policy makers despise and foreigners laugh at your misguided notion of being part of the 'we'.
Google my name, sand -eater...I am published.
As long as you and your ilk are not part of our 'we', Nasser, then things are fine and dandy.
Please, fast...some soap and water....
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Moose, is the racism really necessary?
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I don't blame you. If you're in the upper class, Mccain will continue the status quo as far as the Bush economic policy. Obama getting in means your pocketbook will take a hit. And when the recession comes from this spend-first/tax-never policy, the millions of desperate, hungry unemployed people will pose no threat at all to you or your standard of life. In fact, their crime and begging will only make your coffee taste better each morning.
Proabably.
Either way...I gotta work hard and all the time due to a huge, self-imposed monthly nut.
Up, down....in the end, as long as there was one more up than down, it will be a good life!
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Moose, is the racism really necessary?
I hope it is not coming off that way...as it is not my nature.
My apologies.
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What should we do?
I say
Hate them back.....
they just hate bush mate...
and ya bought the " world hates amreeka" from bush hook line sinker...
for what the world actually is like watch BBC london..not bbc amreeka
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LOL. Sharma blasting out of the starting blocks this morning.
/he is right about the elites tho: it is the businessmen/financiers and politicians who work on global scale who are now the supra-elite -ie. the harvard u. of chicago grads who go on to goldman sachs and meet at davos and bilderberg. these are the 1% who own 40% of the world's assets. being a getbig member i am, of course, part of this group. ;)
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I hate how americans systematically circumsize their babies like the jew.
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LOL. Sharma blasting out of the starting blocks this morning.
/he is right about the elites tho: it is the businessmen/financiers and politicians who work on global scale who are now the supra-elite -ie. the harvard u. of chicago grads who go on to goldman sachs and meet at davos and bilderberg. these are the 1% who own 40% of the world's assets. being a getbig member i am, of course, part of this group. ;)
Ha!
All Hail Chimpmaster!
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they just hate bush mate...
and ya bought the " world hates amreeka" from bush hook line sinker...
for what the world actually is like watch BBC london..not bbc amreeka
Soon Bush will be gone.
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Moose, is the racism really necessary?
Of course it is. Like most dumb, unemployed Americans he is very racist. In fact, getbig has always been a very racist website , probably because it's users are mostly serial losers and the real underbelly of poor, uneducated , ignorant middle America - the Canadians do seem a LOT more intelligent I notice.
I find moosejay amusing. His racism doesn't not bother me at all. I find his meltdowns hilarious and love it when he says ' I am the elite. I am published. You smelly raghead' ;D
The funny thing is how the broken down old cripple can't see how he owns himself.
I say let him make his stereotype racist comments. I am superior to him in every single facet of life.
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Of course it is. Like most dumb, unemployed Americans he is very racist. In fact, getbig has always been a very racist website , probably because it's users are mostly serial losers and the real underbelly of poor, uneducated , ignorant middle America - the Canadians do seem a LOT more intelligent I notice.
I find moosejay amusing. His racism doesn't not bother me at all. I find his meltdowns hilarious and love it when he says ' I am the elite. I am published. You smelly raghead' ;D
The funny thing is how the broken down old cripple can't see how he owns himself.
I say let him make his stereotype racist comments. I am superior to him in every single facet of life.
Ha.
Sharma...YOU are not racist? That's a real knee-slapper...PUH-leese
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Soon Bush will be gone.
true... BUT the damage is done..
when we bombed iraq..the thousands of men who lost their wives and little kids all of a sudden are gonna be, ooo bush is gone...all of a sudden everything is A-ok in my world?? :-\
common now..
what would you do if another country bombed our country and tried to impose their values on us....hmm you'd call it terrorism...but it aint terrorism when we do it..
and then if that countrie's administration changed..would u all of a sudden forgive n forget??
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Valid points.
9/11-we lost thousands...lest you forget.
And we have NOT been attacked since.
Who do you credit for THAT?
Hillary? ::)
We are the world's watchdog.
Like it or not, someone has got to be.
Sure...some of our motives are less than pristine...but...overall ...we do good and the world benefits for it.
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true... BUT the damage is done..
when we bombed iraq..the thousands of men who lost their wives and little kids all of a sudden are gonna be, ooo bush is gone...all of a sudden everything is A-ok in my world?? :-\
common now..
what would you do if another country bombed our country and tried to impose their values on us....hmm you'd call it terrorism...but it aint terrorism when we do it..
and then if that countrie's administration changed..would u all of a sudden forgive n forget??
BTW ...that's exactly what the 9/11 lunatics did...impose their values on us after attacking us.....
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Of course it is. Like most dumb, unemployed Americans he is very racist. In fact, getbig has always been a very racist website , probably because it's users are mostly serial losers and the real underbelly of poor, uneducated , ignorant middle America - the Canadians do seem a LOT more intelligent I notice.
I find moosejay amusing. His racism doesn't not bother me at all. I find his meltdowns hilarious and love it when he says ' I am the elite. I am published. You smelly raghead' ;D
The funny thing is how the broken down old cripple can't see how he owns himself.
I say let him make his stereotype racist comments. I am superior to him in every single facet of life.
*SIGH* Am I the only one who rallies against such ignorance around here!?
/that's the one area squad and i crossed swords: his ignorant, nazi-based racism. i'm glad that is gone from these boards. :)
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Valid points.
9/11-we lost thousands...lest you forget.
lest you forget...Osama ws an ex cia operative...we armed n trained em to fight against the ruskies..we created the perfect warrior..one thats not afraid to die in the name of religion...should woulda coulda diffused the situation after..instead we up n left..BIG mistake..
And we have NOT been attacked since.
thats a crap argument mate..
thats like saying...i got a stomach ache once (911) and soo i took a malaria shot (invade iraq) and since then i haven't got a stomach ache soo the malaria shot MUST be working ::)
We are the world's watchdog.
the world dosen't want us being their watch dogs..what if i come to your house and TELL you i'm gonna watch over it whether you like it or not..and when u try to throw me out i callyou a terrorist? :-\
Like it or not, someone has got to be.
no they dont...
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9/11-we lost thousands...lest you forget.
And we have NOT been attacked since.
Who do you credit for THAT?
Terrorist attacks ,didn't happen every other day ,before 9/11 .Moosejay ::)
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BTW ...that's exactly what the 9/11 lunatics did...impose their values on us after attacking us.....
Moose, the irony here is palpable. Bush and his cabal used the 9/11 attack to impose his style of abridgment of your constitutional and human rights...and you all let him!? That is a shame that will be examined for years to come. Shame! :'(
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lest you forget...Osama ws an ex cia operative...we armed n trained em to fight against the ruskies..we created the perfect warrior..one thats not afraid to die in the name of religion...should woulda coulda diffused the situation after..instead we up n left..BIG mistake..
thats a crap argument mate..
Well...we trained them and in their dishonor they reneged...
thats like saying...i got a stomach ache once (911) and soo i took a malaria shot (invade iraq) and since then i haven't got a stomach ache soo the malaria shot MUST be working ::)
We do what we must. It was our SOLUTION. What was YOURS?
Doing something is better than doing NOTHING.
Something worth doing well is also worth doing POORLY.
the world dosen't want us being their watch dogs..what if i come to your house and TELL you i'm gonna watch over it whether you like it or not..and when u try to throw me out i callyou a terrorist? :-\
Now THAT...is, as they say in the old guard...a crock of HOOIE.
Okay...we can take our toys and go home. NO MORE funds for the corrupt UN, and so many other supposedly sovereign nations whose despot rulers take our money, run, and let their Darfurian minions starve to death.
I am sure Germany and Turkey will come to their rescue....
no they dont...
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Moose, the irony here is palpable. Bush and his cabal used the 9/11 attack to impose his style of abridgment of your constitutional and human rights...and you all let him!? That is a shame that will be examined for years to come. Shame! :'(
Chimpy, my thoughts now are to let history will decide. I feel history will smile upon Bush. Just my opinion, but here come the attacks....
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Terrorist attacks ,didn't happen every other day ,before 9/11 .Moosejay ::)
Correct...and we don't attack countries every other day, either
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We do what we must. It was our SOLUTION. What was YOURS?
Doing something is better than doing NOTHING.
Something worth doing well is also worth doing POORLY.
soo saddam got punished for what osama did? lmao ::)
next time your son does something wrong..go out into the street and beat the crap out of some random person..its the bush amreekan way!
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http://oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm
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soo saddam got punished for what osama did? lmao ::)
next time your son does something wrong..go out into the street and beat the crap out of some random person..its the bush amreekan way!
The world is ABSOLUTELY no poorer with Saddam.
And, as far as my son...no kids...but DAMMIT>>>SOMEONE'S GOTTA PAY!!!!!@@@#$##$$$%%% ;D
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http://oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm
PF...just tell me the gist here ...too lazy
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Chimpy, my thoughts now are to let history will decide. I feel history will smile upon Bush. Just my opinion, but here come the attacks....
No, no attacks, pal. I find it all too sad. I think America will look back with the same revulsion and sadness that are reserved for the HUAC/McCarthy and the Watergate eras. :'(
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Sure...it may be looked at like Nam.
But that's the world.
Nothing is perfect.
there are already too many people ....overpopulation....an d more coming,...forever conflicting thoughts, ideas...pushing and pulling in all directions....
I just don't like to see the 'United' taken out of United States of America
To this we should ALL agree, I would hope
MJ Approved
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The world is ABSOLUTELY no poorer with Saddam.
But the region was far more stable with him in power and his wings clipped to just keep his own country in order and to defend his borders.
Bush and Blair have taken the lid off a pressure cooker environment and it has created a war that doesn't look like ever ending. These actions have unleashed a torrent of hostile forces that has actually put us all at risk. One of the benefits of Saddam in power was that he had little time for Islamic fundamentalism and kept it firmly suppressed.
If they really care about removing despots and bringing democracy to the world..why do they do business with and support some of the most vile regimes still thriving today?
It was not in the public interest to fight this war. There were no WMD. These people are supposed to represent our interests, not their own.
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But the region was far more stable with him in power and his wings clipped to just keep his own country in order and to defend his borders.
You could say China is stable....
Bush and Blair have taken the lid off a pressure cooker environment and it has created a war that doesn't look like ever ending. These actions have unleashed a torrent of hostile forces that has actually put us all at risk. One of the benefits of Saddam in power was that he had little time for Islamic fundamentalism and kept it firmly suppressed.
The middle east has been at war with itself for 2 thousand years...and look for two thousand more years of it to come...with no fault of Bush or Blair's...
If they really care about removing despots and bringing democracy to the world..why do they do business with and support some of the most vile regimes still thriving today?
Because it is a precipitous balancing act...just watch 'The Good Shepard' with Matt Damon to see how we must at times work with the enemy
It was not in the public interest to fight this war. There were no WMD. These people are supposed to represent our interests, not their own.
Well, seeing that much of the public these days reads at a 6-8th grade education level, I would not be comfortable letting them decide on my lunch...and I am not joking...
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The world is ABSOLUTELY no poorer with Saddam.
pol pot killed 3 mil..
why didn't we liberate his people..
answer : polpot did not have oil
http://www.moreorless.au.com/killers/pot.html
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pol pot killed 3 mil..
why didn't we liberate his people..
answer : polpot did not have oil
http://www.moreorless.au.com/killers/pot.html
Be honest.
What do most people drive here?
I drive a mid sized car.
About 45 bucks per week...even with prices for gas that I feel have been too low for years anyhow...
Are you ready to give up your precious Hummers, Land Rovers, and other 'penis-extending' vehicles if you thinks its taboo to take oil from the mid east?
YOU are a big part of your much maligned problems here.
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I'm half Swede, half American-lived in both countries, back and forth, pretty much all my life. I wouldn't say that the majority of outsiders dislike America as a whole, but are definitely annoyed with the cockiness played off as patriotism, put off by the the abrasiveness of the average American in comparison with the quieter, more reserved nature of the average European, and put off as well by the percieved 'consume everything at all costs' kind of lifestyle of the average American and the country as a whole.
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And by way...I live in the town of Wallingford, CT.
We have our own, private electric company to provide us power.
In the hottest of summers, with all lights burning in my nearly 2 thousand sqaure foot home, my electric bill is about 50 bucks a month...and that is a HIGH month.
Middle east oil my ass.
Change your lazy ass lifestyle ways if you want to complain about big bad Bushie so much.
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Love makes the world go 'round.
Why are you trying to stop the world from spinning??
You evil bastard!!
Why don't you try and tell that to the people who wake up everyday and chant "Death to America" and Iran?
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I'm half Swede, half American-lived in both countries, back and forth, pretty much all my life. I wouldn't say that the majority of outsiders dislike America as a whole, but are definitely annoyed with the cockiness played off as patriotism, put off by the the abrasiveness of the average American in comparison with the quieter, more reserved nature of the average European, and put off as well by the percieved 'consume everything at all costs' kind of lifestyle of the average American and the country as a whole.
Well, I am still a little pissed over the millions of US veterens and hundreds of thousands who died on European soil preserving your lifestyle that you enjoy today.
Our true rockstars here are WWII vets.
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Why don't you try and tell that to the people who wake up everyday and chant "Death to America" and Iran?
Coach for US senate!
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Well, I am still a little pissed over the millions of US veterens and hundreds of thousands who died on European soil preserving your lifestyle that you enjoy today.
Our true rockstars here are WWII vets.
Once again, I'm half American(and proud!). My grandfather was an island hopper in the pacific, First Marine Division, awarded the silver star and nominated for the congressional medal of honor. My hero and probably one of the baddest dudes around like most of the other guys in the first marine division getting blown to bits one the beaches from high up on a hill on Peleliu. I don't need backlash from you when I'm answering your question truthfully.
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pol pot killed 3 mil..
why didn't we liberate his people..
answer : polpot did not have oil
http://www.moreorless.au.com/killers/pot.html
Because our efforts were focused on stopping the spread of communism.
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America and hard work provides me with a lifestyle in which I can
Buy 5 NY pro tix=$500
Gas to NY........=$50
Parking in NY...=$40
Dinner for 5
in nice rest.....=$300
Total.............About $900.00
I love it here. I don't do things like this every week, but MANY people do what I do. Some of you here, too.
So please don't live high and then complain about where you live.
It makes no sense.
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Once again, I'm half American(and proud!). My grandfather was an island hopper in the pacific, First Marine Division, awarded the silver star and nominated for the congressional medal of honor. My hero and probably one of the baddest dudes around like most of the other guys in the first marine division getting blown to bits one the beaches from high up on a hill on Peleliu. I don't need backlash from you when I'm answering your question truthfully.
I don't care about what you perceive you 'need', marshmallow.
Toughen up a bit....if you have some of your grandad's blood this should not be a problem.
My best patient is 95 years old (and best man I know)...was one of three survivors on a WW2 battleship that was sunk.
God bless your grandfather. Thank him forever for his deeds.
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Too much patriotism in USA coming from low class citizens.
Our country is the best blah blah, well ok so why are you still living in your mom's basement earning 12k a month?
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Be honest.
What do most people drive here?
I drive a mid sized car.
About 45 bucks per week...even with prices for gas that I feel have been too low for years anyhow...
Are you ready to give up your precious Hummers, Land Rovers, and other 'penis-extending' vehicles if you thinks its taboo to take oil from the mid east?
YOU are a big part of your much maligned problems here.
i drive a civic..
bling is inversely proportional to self esteem...
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i drive a civic..
bling is inversely proportional to self esteem...
Truer words never spoken.
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Too much patriotism in USA coming from low class citizens.
Our country is the best blah blah, well ok so why are you still living in your mom's basement earning 12k a month?
I do quite well in my career, thanks for the dickhead observation.
Besides, people in this country figured out a long time ago that you don't need to be rich to be happy.
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Kudos to you Condor. Yours is often the voice of sanity and reason.
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Too bad all those Third-world and Latin American immigrants that keep flooding our borders don't Hate America enough to stop coming here. I hate to say this but if things continue the way they are, America is doomed. The European decendants that founded our country and made it the greatest country in the world are being outbred and displaced by people whose own countries are disastrously dysfunctional. Of course, we have another growing segment of the population that has 80% or more of it's youth whose only ambition is to be a "Thug" or a "Pimp". Between that group and the illegal 3rd Worlders, ouir country will soon resemble the countries where these types proliferate. Sad..cause no one will do anything about it.
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Kudos to you Condor. Yours is often the voice of sanity and reason.
Yes, I believe we "park our cars in the same garage"
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When you are the top dog you will always walk the thin line between envy/respect from the masses. If you are the biggest dog in the yard every other animal is forced to have an opinion of you; wether it be respect, fear, hatred, or worship. You simply cannot hide from it, hence we get more strong coviction of thought from outsiders.
Whats your opinion on Botswana or Laos? Do you have one? Most likely not because they are not players in the yard. However I bet your starting to form one on China and India now though because they are starting to strut around.
To put it in Getbig terms you could say it is the Squadfather effect, like him or hate him it was impossible to ignore his presence.
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Yes, I believe we "park our cars in the same garage"
Ha...yes.
I issue a challenge here.
Since I think our country is on the right track....I needn't participate in this execise.
For y'all who complain...please start issuing SOLUTIONS to your complaints.
Not a one of you have, or ever have, as I have seen it.
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For y'all who complain...please start issuing SOLUTIONS to your complaints.
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Too much patriotism in USA coming from low class citizens.
Our country is the best blah blah, well ok so why are you still living in your mom's basement earning 12k a month?
The problem with that thinking shows you how used we have become to our way of living. Even our poorest should revel in the fact at how great their lives are in America. Being poor in a 3rd world country means their is a real chance you die from frickin diarrhea.
Fuck, Laos, where my father is from the average yearly income is 350 dollars. Most people in America easily make more than this every week. Wrap your brain around that.
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I don't care about what you perceive you 'need', marshmallow.
Toughen up a bit....if you have some of your grandad's blood this should not be a problem.
My best patient is 95 years old (and best man I know)...was one of three survivors on a WW2 battleship that was sunk.
God bless your grandfather. Thank him forever for his deeds.
Well, you can call me a marshmellow all you want, I'm pretty comfortable with my current level of toughness. You ask a question and then get a response, then insult the response. Where I come from, that's not any way to carry on a discussion. You do what you want.
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Well, you can call me a marshmellow all you want, I'm pretty comfortable with my current level of toughness. You ask a question and then get a response, then insult the response. Where I come from, that's not any way to carry on a discussion. You do what you want.
No, your responce was laced in a sarcastic lilt, mister peacenik.
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The problem with that thinking shows you how used we have become to our way of living. Even our poorest should revel in the fact at how great their lives are in America. Being poor in a 3rd world country means their is a real chance you die from frickin diarrhea.
Fuck, Laos, where my father is from the average yearly income is 350 dollars. Most people in America easily make more than this every week. Wrap your brain around that.
Thanks tech for shedding this much needed light.
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Too bad all those Third-world and Latin American immigrants that keep flooding our borders don't Hate America enough to stop coming here. I hate to say this but if things continue the way they are, America is doomed. The European decendants that founded our country and made it the greatest country in the world are being outbred and displaced by people whose own countries are disastrously dysfunctional. Of course, we have another growing segment of the population that has 80% or more of it's youth whose only ambition is to be a "Thug" or a "Pimp". Between that group and the illegal 3rd Worlders, ouir country will soon resemble the countries where these types proliferate. Sad..cause no one will do anything about it.
Very true.
Years ago...immigrants were proud to come here and raise their own American flag on their porch.
Now,,,they wanna come here and raise their former contry flag. Disgraceful.
And, chem...sounds crazy...but that couple in the media lately with the 17 kids and another one on the way...I am all for population control...but their friggin kids are clean-cut, respectful...on the ball.
if you produce offspring...how about producing some like this couple has?
Enough of the bling and "getting hooked on phonics..."
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Too much patriotism in USA coming from low class citizens.
Our country is the best blah blah, well ok so why are you still living in your mom's basement earning 12k a month?
So you say 12k per month is bad...?
Talk about elitist :-\
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if i had three wishes, they'd be; world peace, a cure for all diseases and a fukcin big cork to be stuffed in moosejay's shite spewing cakehole for life.
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if i had three wishes, they'd be; world peace, a cure for all diseases and a fukcin big cork to be stuffed in moosejay's shite spewing cakehole for life.
The genie says "no" and I don't eat cake, fatso.... :-X
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I am not hypocritical as Frenchs and honestly I thank USA
can we European be pacifists without the USA?
I don't think so
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I am not hypocritical as Frenchs and honestly I thank USA
can we European be pacifists without the USA?
I don't think so
Very good take on it all, ibfa
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World don't hate all America. Some very good American people I know who hate the corrupt government - all billionaire bastards with their corrupt land and arms deals - and the going to fight wars where no congressman's son ever fights.
It is the trailer trash simpletons who annoy us. The dumb thick meth addicts who talk about how great 'their' nation is when in fact they live in shitty trailers and can't spell.
Go to France and German etc.. and you will see that the average person is so much more intelligent and worldly, it is frightening.
Also, America need to STOP messing in the affairs of the Muslims otherwise more of the soldiers will keep dying. Time to leave and worry about your own country.
You couldn't find Osama and Iraq has seen many innocents killed by US imperialist greed.
It the American people in the firing line, until the infidels leave Arab lands then no one is safe. Very sad.
nasser...if we are a 'race' of infidels...then you are racist against us.
The horror...the horror....
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It is the trailer trash simpletons who annoy us. The dumb thick meth addicts who talk about how great 'their' nation is when in fact they live in shitty trailers and can't spell.
Go to France and German etc.. and you will see that the average person is so much more intelligent and worldly, it is frightening.
Trailer trash simpletons annoy me and most educated and upper-middle class Americans as well. However, the average IQ and level of education in America is no different than it is in Europe. France and Germany have as many retards and ignorant fools as we do. The difference is this: ours tend to be a lot more outspoken, and they get a lot more attention in the media. The Europeans have been more successful than we have in keeping their idiots silent and in the background. That said, it is completely disingenuous to point to the worst elements in our society and speak as though they are representative of the "typical" American.
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Trailer trash simpletons annoy me and most educated and upper-middle class Americans as well. However, the average IQ and level of education in America is no different than it is in Europe. France and Germany have as many retards and ignorant fools as we do. The difference is this: ours tend to be a lot more outspoken, and they get a lot more attention in the media. The Europeans have been more successful than we have in keeping their idiots silent and in the background. That said, it is completely disingenuous to point to the worst elements in our society and speak as though they are representative of the "typical" American.
now replace "us" with "muslim" and it works also...except most muslims do come from 3rd world countries..soo lower the education factor..and up the numbnuts factor..
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The world doesn't hate America, but is pretty much annoyed with Bush and the American people for electing his ass into office TWICE.
If you've ever traveled, you'd know that the world doesn't hate America. If you ever traveled in the 90's then you'd know that most were pretty envious of this country, and most people around the world still have a very high opinion of Bill Clinton even to this day.
Moose, if you think that Bush has made this country safer, then think again. He's not only dragged this country's reputation through the mud, but also the reputation of the entire western world. We aren't better off. There are now thousands more wanting to carry out more 9/11s thanks to the Iraq war.
You can be a dumb fucking midget like the Coach and say that fighting them there ensures that they don't come here, but most of the fighters in Iraq aren't the one's that want to hurt this country. They'd much rather kill each other. The radical fighters have traveled there because we're there. The US invasion paved the way for militant Islam in Iraq. Saddam always kept those fuckers in check, and we should have tried diplomacy when he tried to invade to Kuwait. I mean we were the best of pals in the 80's and sold him millions of dollars in weapons.
I'm tired of these bible belt fuckers and their justification of the war. They're the biggest pieces of trash ever and I hope they die. All do is whine and blame others. I mean look at them now, whining about outsourcing.. Whining about losing their jobs. Yet, they're the types that would hold union jobs.. Unions have ruined this nation's auto industry. These rednecks are so scared and stupid that they'll elect people out of fear. I say their electoral votes should be taken away because they're too fucking stupid and shouldn't be allowed to vote.
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now replace "us" with "muslim" and it works also...except most muslims do come from 3rd world countries..soo lower the education factor..and up the numbnuts factor..
Not really. The trailer trash are not following a written creed that tells them to act the way they do, and the rest of us are not funding and applauding their activities.
Islam is a disease that is rotten at its core. Have you read the Qur'an? I have. All of these activities that are dismissed as aberrations by the "moderate Muslims" (who for some reason can only be found in the west ;)) are all fully authorized and encouraged in the "holy book". Muslims do not believe in separation of church and state, and do not believe in free choice. Where and when they can get away with it, they demand their neighbors live as Muslims whether they want to or not, and are not afraid to enforce this with violence, again fully authorized by their creed.
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Terrorist attacks ,didn't happen every other day ,before 9/11 .Moosejay ::)
WTC - '93
USS Cole - 2000'
US Embassy's - since about 92' and throughout the 90's
There's more, that was just off the top of my head!
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Not really. The trailer trash are not following a written creed that tells them to act the way they do, and the rest of us are not funding and applauding their activities.
Islam is a disease that is rotten at its core. Have you read the Qur'an? I have. All of these activities that are dismissed as aberrations by the "moderate Muslims" (who for some reason can only be found in the west ;)) are all fully authorized and encouraged in the "holy book". Muslims do not believe in separation of church and state, and do not believe in free choice. Where and when they can get away with it, they demand their neighbors live as Muslims whether they want to or not, and are not afraid to enforce this with violence, again fully authorized by their creed.
That is exactly what pisses me off about the bleeding heart liberals who cry out for tolerance, and just blame the "muslim" problem on American ignorance.
Complete bullshit, their convictions stem from their religion, not some American ageda, it is completly black and white. I had a muslim friend from Pakistan who told me point blank to my face that I will be rotting in hell because Im christian. You just can't appeal to rational thought when your beliefs are based upon faith.
Wake up fucking hippie scum bags.
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Not really. The trailer trash are not following a written creed that tells them to act the way they do, and the rest of us are not funding and applauding their activities.
Islam is a disease that is rotten at its core. Have you read the Qur'an? I have. All of these activities that are dismissed as aberrations by the "moderate Muslims" (who for some reason can only be found in the west ;)) are all fully authorized and encouraged in the "holy book". Muslims do not believe in separation of church and state, and do not believe in free choice. Where and when they can get away with it, they demand their neighbors live as Muslims whether they want to or not, and are not afraid to enforce this with violence, again fully authorized by their creed.
really my whole family is muslim..most live in paki as ya know and dont believe the above at all :-\
maybe i should tell em they aren't muslim...
PS isn't your wifey muslim?
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really my whole family is muslim..most live in paki as ya know and dont believe the above at all :-\
maybe i should tell em they aren't muslim...
don't you dare contradict FOX traitor :D
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really my whole family is muslim..most live in paki as ya know and dont believe the above at all :-\
maybe i should tell em they aren't muslim...
PS isn't your wifey muslim?
Is your family aware that you are online conversing with the infidels of Getbig?
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really my whole family is muslim..most live in paki as ya know and dont believe the above at all :-\
maybe i should tell em they aren't muslim...
With any religion, there are those who are not true believers, but pay it lip service due to the society they live in. This probably happens in Muslim countries more than in others, since there to not pay it lip service is to risk death.
PS isn't your wifey muslim?
No, she's not.
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Is your family aware that you are online conversing with the infidels of Getbig?
Is your family aware that you are online conversing with the infidels of Getbig?
yeah i'm looking to carry out potential beheadings! ::)
PS my girlfriend is greek orthodox(ie they burn eachothers hair at church a lot! ;D)...i'm an athiest..
as far as i'm concerned all ya religious ones are fighting over whose got the best imaginairy friend! ;D err fiend..
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yeah i'm looking to carry out potential beheadings! ::)
PS my girlfriend is greek...i'm an athiest.. a skinny little nerd who is into cosmology and computer networking.
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With any religion, there are those who are not true believers,
they consider themselves true believers and the extremists they believe will rot in hell..
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yeah i'm looking to carry out potential beheadings! ::)
PS my girlfriend is greek...i'm an athiest..
as far as i'm concerned all ya religious ones are fighting over whose got the best imaginairy friend! ;D err fiend..
How many muslims are worldwide ?
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How many muslims are worldwide ?
google
http://www.islamicpopulation.com/
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google
http://www.islamicpopulation.com/
1.6 billions :o
Imagine if they were all terrorist . ::)
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they consider themselves true believers and the extremists they believe will rot in hell..
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So you're saying they don't believe Sharia law should be enforcable by civil government? That's at the root of what I'm talking about, not just nutjobs wearing C4 underwear. As you know, I spent some time in Iran and in Pakistan. While I was there I met many people who were very nice, even "normal" under normal circumstances, but I got the sense that they would be among the first to join their neighbors in the street calling for beheadings if some cartoonist drew a caricature of Mohammed or if some teacher allowed a student to name his Teddy bear "Mohammed".
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So you're saying they don't believe Sharia law should be enforcable by civil government? That's at the root of what I'm talking about, not just nutjobs wearing C4 underwear. As you know, I spent some time in Iran and in Pakistan. While I was there I met many people who were very nice, even "normal" under normal circumstances, but I got the sense that they would be among the first to join their neighbors in the street calling for beheadings if some cartoonist drew a caricature of Mohammed or if some teacher allowed a student to name his Teddy bear "Mohammed".
Have you read the bible?
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1.6 billions :o
Imagine if they were all terrorist . ::)
exactly.. :-\
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Have you read the bible?
I have, but I'm not a Christian, so don't bother going down that road. Besides, doctrinally, Christianity is all about the afterlife. "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, and unto god that which is god's". Islam, from its beginnings, was all about conversion through conquest and earthly punishment for spiritual infidelity.
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So you're saying they don't believe Sharia law should be enforcable by civil government? That's at the root of what I'm talking about, not just nutjobs wearing C4 underwear.
sharia law is a bastardization of the koran...thought you had read the koran?
As you know, I spent some time in Iran and in Pakistan. While I was there I met many people who were very nice, even "normal" under normal circumstances, but I got the sense that they would be among the first to join their neighbors in the street calling for beheadings if some cartoonist drew a caricature of Mohammed or if some teacher allowed a student to name his Teddy bear "Mohammed".
that happened with uneducated 3rd world idiots..one isn't allowed to draw mohammed cause god apparently dosen't want muslims bowing down and praying to mohammed..
the cartoon fiasco ws a buncha idiots acting like idiots....
i mean do you consider them snakehandlers christians?
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I have, but I'm not a Christian, so don't bother going down that road. Besides, doctrinally, Christianity is all about the afterlife. "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, and unto god that which is god's". Islam, from its beginnings, was all about conversion through conquest and earthly punishment for spiritual infidelity.
My point is , you can be a Christian ,and don't believe in a talking snake, like you can be a Muslim ,and don't believe in the 72 virgins.
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The world doesn't hate America, but is pretty much annoyed with Bush and the American people for electing his ass into office TWICE.
If you've ever traveled, you'd know that the world doesn't hate America. If you ever traveled in the 90's then you'd know that most were pretty envious of this country, and most people around the world still have a very high opinion of Bill Clinton even to this day.
Moose, if you think that Bush has made this country safer, then think again. He's not only dragged this country's reputation through the mud, but also the reputation of the entire western world. We aren't better off. There are now thousands more wanting to carry out more 9/11s thanks to the Iraq war.
You can be a dumb fucking midget like the Coach and say that fighting them there ensures that they don't come here, but most of the fighters in Iraq aren't the one's that want to hurt this country. They'd much rather kill each other. The radical fighters have traveled there because we're there. The US invasion paved the way for militant Islam in Iraq. Saddam always kept those fuckers in check, and we should have tried diplomacy when he tried to invade to Kuwait. I mean we were the best of pals in the 80's and sold him millions of dollars in weapons.
I'm tired of these bible belt fuckers and their justification of the war. They're the biggest pieces of trash ever and I hope they die. All do is whine and blame others. I mean look at them now, whining about outsourcing.. Whining about losing their jobs. Yet, they're the types that would hold union jobs.. Unions have ruined this nation's auto industry. These rednecks are so scared and stupid that they'll elect people out of fear. I say their electoral votes should be taken away because they're too fucking stupid and shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Mmmm...Ida know...your last paragraph applies more to libs
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By the way, history will show Bush was warned about 9/11 on Aug 5, 2001 and didn't act.
FBI and our allies all told him at once. 5 of the names, attack date, and targets.
He told them "you've covered your ass" and sent them home.
So please STFU when citing 911 as rationale for anything. It was allowed because we had war plans in afghanistan (we told UK and india in summer 01 that attack was coming in oct 01), and we had war plans in Iraq (cheney divided up oil fields in iran qith oil co CEos before 911).
Our allies who warned Bush readily admitted they warned us and were baffled we didn't act. So please, stop making yourselves look ignorant. There's a good reason that 67% of Americans doubt the 911 commision report, why 50% of the 911 commissioners have said the document is a fraud, and why worldwide, other govts (UN, jap, and others in EUR) are all doing their own 911 investigations. We let it happen. I know it hurts to think that, but it happened in 1898 Maine, it happened when we sent the lucitania into german uboat waters in WW1 to take the hit, it happened in pearl harbor, it happened with the fake attack at tonken to spurn vietnam, and it happened on 911. It's how shit works.
I thought you believed in 9/11 conspiracy.
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By the way, history will show Bush was warned about 9/11 on Aug 5, 2001 and didn't act.
FBI and our allies all told him at once. 5 of the names, attack date, and targets.
He told them "you've covered your ass" and sent them home.
So please STFU when citing 911 as rationale for anything. It was allowed because we had war plans in afghanistan (we told UK and india in summer 01 that attack was coming in oct 01), and we had war plans in Iraq (cheney divided up oil fields in iran qith oil co CEos before 911).
Our allies who warned Bush readily admitted they warned us and were baffled we didn't act. So please, stop making yourselves look ignorant. There's a good reason that 67% of Americans doubt the 911 commision report, why 50% of the 911 commissioners have said the document is a fraud, and why worldwide, other govts (UN, jap, and others in EUR) are all doing their own 911 investigations. We let it happen. I know it hurts to think that, but it happened in 1898 Maine, it happened when we sent the lucitania into german uboat waters in WW1 to take the hit, it happened in pearl harbor, it happened with the fake attack at tonken to spurn vietnam, and it happened on 911. It's how shit works.
i think, 240, your banging your head on a wall. the rest of the world believes what you wrote in this post above regarding the way the american administration tries to deceive it's populace into believing it had no knowledge of 9/11, tonkin, pearl harbour etc. but for some reason it's populace, despite overwhelming evidence pointing to their govt's knowledge prior to these events happening, or even having a hand in thier manufacture still don't believe it.
what is sadder still is that the the small minority who do believe their gov't had a role to play in these things just don't care as to the victor goes the spoils.
it is going to keep happening. your government depends on your not caring to further it's own agendas globally.
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I believe we need a complete investigation.
Five of the Ten 911 commissioners feel the same way. The families feel the same way. The world feels the same way. So many unanswered Qs.
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I believe we need a complete investigation.
Five of the Ten 911 commissioners feel the same way. The families feel the same way. The world feels the same way. So many unanswered Qs.
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