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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: body88 on May 23, 2008, 05:49:28 PM
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This thread is meant to spark discussion on the current state of bodybuilding. When I first started posting here years ago, I was interested in pro bb. Since then, I have come to view the "sport" as a total joke, and I am ashamed of the current form of pro bodybuilding. Back in it's golden days, bodybuilding was a great activity, with great physiques, and a healthy look. Now pro bb is a total joke, drama everywhere, gay for pay, massive amounts of chemicals, twinks and bloated retards tipping the scales at over 300 pounds. basically every pro is a pathological lier, and most are about to die.
I come here to grab advice on training, and to talk about training, but as far as pro bodybuilding goes - I hate it. Honestly, just step back and look at the current state of the "sport" - I know it's not a true sport..
Will the pendulum ever swing back to the other side, and will bb be restored as a legitimate endeavor? Or will things just get worse?
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No. Just bodybuilders.
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I hate sides of it.
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I hate sides of it.
There are no sides. It is circular.
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=214491.0
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You are forgetting one thing these guys make millions and millions of Tax Free dollars each contest.Just take any Grand Prix show the Winner gets 10k and 5th gets 1k now money like that makes it worth all the Risk and Drug Abuse DON'T YOU THINK???hMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=214491.0
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This thread is meant to spark discussion on the current state of bodybuilding. When I first started posting here years ago, I was interested in pro bb. Since then, I have come to view the "sport" as a total joke, and I am ashamed of the current form of pro bodybuilding. Back in it's golden days, bodybuilding was a great activity, with great physiques, and a healthy look. Now pro bb is a total joke, drama everywhere, gay for pay, massive amounts of chemicals, twinks and bloated retards tipping the scales at over 300 pounds. basically every pro is a pathological lier, and most are about to die.
I come here to grab advice on training, and to talk about training, but as far as pro bodybuilding goes - I hate it. Honestly, just step back and look at the current state of the "sport" - I know it's not a true sport..
Will the pendulum ever swing back to the other side, and will bb be restored as a legitimate endeavor? Or will things just get worse?
pretty much spot on.
like gh15 says; bodybuilding = drugs and bb'ers = best liers on the planet :D
sad really :-\
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jealousy is a bitch thats what i say sounds like someone is upset because he dosent have what it takes to look like the pros even if he was on aas
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jealousy is a bitch thats what i say sounds like someone is upset because he dosent have what it takes to look like the pros even if he was on aas
Not really, I don't think most the pros have pleasing physiques. I'm not into the circus freak look, and I never have been. I am a former athlete, and I aspire to look like one. I like a nice physique, that has the ability to back up how it looks.
Typical response though, I question the current state of bb, and I'm jealous of the parchute pant wearing drug freaks. I can honestly say, I would never want to look like any of the top pro's. Thats just my opinion of course. I have no problem with people who like that look.
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What's Not to like about a Fukin IDIOT that pumps himself full of Synthol and almost dies and then charges $500 an Hour to train Fuktards.Get a life and leave the injections for people who love an ABCESS.hMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMM
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Back when I first started posting here, 98/99 or so, it wasnt really about pro bodybuilding. It was a bunch of people who liked to lift weights and eat properly. Some did contests, most didn't. No one really talked about IFBB pro bodybuilding except around Olympia time. We mostly talked about our workouts and programs, with a bunch of off-topic stuff thrown in. Somewhere along the line this board became "all IFBB all the time", and that really sucks, since pro bodybuilding is a total joke. Rather than abandon our board, those of us who were here before then switched to bashing the IFBB douches every chance we got.
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Chick view warning ;D
I don't hate it all, I am still a fan. I like all divisions, but am mostly into the fitness division [the one with all the flips/splits etc]
Thing though, yes the whole seedy side of it that some women engage in is embarrassing.
Contrary to popular belief, most women who compete do not engage that crap, but the few that do reflect on us all.
The women claim it is their right, which is correct. Also means a decreased chance of even being seen as equal when there are women desperate to flash their ass for a few bucks imo. I would much rather it retain an athletic aspect, instead of sinking further into soft porn as we seem to be doing.
So yeah, the negative aspects do detract from it for me, although I still love it.
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I don't hate it, but it's just that bro bbing gives you plenty of reasons to do so. It becomes fun when you bash the many negatives of bodybuilding because they're so fucking stupid and lack any sort of decency.
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I don't hate it. That would be like hating anorectics, addicted people or people with compulsive disorders, or any psychological disorder or suffering etc.
They need love and care and joy and security and comfort. Not hate.
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Back when I first started posting here, 98/99 or so, it wasnt really about pro bodybuilding. It was a bunch of people who liked to lift weights and eat properly. Some did contests, most didn't. No one really talked about IFBB pro bodybuilding except around Olympia time. We mostly talked about our workouts and programs, with a bunch of off-topic stuff thrown in. Somewhere along the line this board became "all IFBB all the time", and that really sucks, since pro bodybuilding is a total joke. Rather than abandon our board, those of us who were here before then switched to bashing the IFBB douches every chance we got.
and watching live bodybuilding show webcasts on saturday night
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Yes.
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Ingrish, yew speke?
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dont say shit to musclecenter.. he sent the ninjas to flex in the past... you dont want that done to you! :o
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Ingrish, yew speke?
yes,broken english ;D
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yes,broken english ;D
musclecenter smiled... your safe...
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"Why are you disappointed in bodybuilding."
Chaos' "Engrish for dummies" class is over. ;D
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Do Why you hate disappoint in pro bodybuilding?
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Why are you disappointed in bodybuilding ?
(Thanks to Chaos ;D)
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Why are you disappointed in bodybuilding ?
(Thanks to Chaos ;D)
No personalities, these guys are as boring as watching grass grow and paint dry.
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modern day pro bodybuilding sucks, Wolfe is the best guy around, but hes being told he needs to be bigger to give him the illusion of being shorter and fatter before he can win. fuckin stupid and it wont get better just look at the people who run the sport, take them out of bodybuilding and they would run the first an successful McDonald's, the sport has little potential but the way it is judged makes sure it doesn't even reach that, guys need to be weighing realistic weights to take the sport more mainstream, people will hate it anyway, but people like me and many others will come back and support it, at the moment its just a freak show, and they all look fucking stupid, and thats before they open their mouths and confirm it.
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Back when I first started posting here, 98/99 or so, it wasnt really about pro bodybuilding. It was a bunch of people who liked to lift weights and eat properly. Some did contests, most didn't. No one really talked about IFBB pro bodybuilding except around Olympia time. We mostly talked about our workouts and programs, with a bunch of off-topic stuff thrown in. Somewhere along the line this board became "all IFBB all the time", and that really sucks, since pro bodybuilding is a total joke. Rather than abandon our board, those of us who were here before then switched to bashing the IFBB douches every chance we got.
This post is spot on... I don't really have a problem with pro's, and I don't mind if a person aspires to have that look. That said, I didn't start posting here until later (2003), but even then - what you said in your post was accurate.
I like to train and eat right, but it seems like these days that = teh gay around here. Someone post's a natural guy who is around 190 lb's - ( in great shape), and everyone says he is a tiny tit.
Interesting how the pro culture has changed what a good physique is these days.
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modern day pro bodybuilding sucks, Wolfe is the best guy around, but hes being told he needs to be bigger to give him the illusion of being shorter and fatter before he can win. fuckin stupid and it wont get better just look at the people who run the sport, take them out of bodybuilding and they would run the first an successful McDonald's, the sport has little potential but the way it is judged makes sure it doesn't even reach that, guys need to be weighing realistic weights to take the sport more mainstream, people will hate it anyway, but people like me and many others will come back and support it, at the moment its just a freak show, and they all look fucking stupid, and thats before they open their mouths and confirm it.
I agree with you, most normal people are repulsed by pro bb's. Pro bb is basically a small cult that caters to the fetish crowd of homosexuals.
I mean honestly, guys walking around at 255 lbs - ( at 5'8) with 4% bodyfat? Anyone who tells a guy like Denis Wolfe that he is to small, needs to have thier head checked.
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modern day pro bodybuilding sucks, Wolfe is the best guy around, but hes being told he needs to be bigger to give him the illusion of being shorter and fatter before he can win. fuckin stupid and it wont get better just look at the people who run the sport, take them out of bodybuilding and they would run the first an successful McDonald's, the sport has little potential but the way it is judged makes sure it doesn't even reach that, guys need to be weighing realistic weights to take the sport more mainstream, people will hate it anyway, but people like me and many others will come back and support it, at the moment its just a freak show, and they all look fucking stupid, and thats before they open their mouths and confirm it.
"Being told he needs to be bigger"??
By who?
No one is telling him that....
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"Being told he needs to be bigger"??
By who?
No one is telling him that....
Chick, guy's like Ray and Jackson have been told they where to small for years. the mass monsters win everything, and there is no end in sight.
I'm not going to hate on guys that aspire for the freak look, I just think the "sport" has really taken a dive over the years.
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Every generation thinks the sport has "taken a dive"....from the 40's till now.
Bodybuilding progresses, just like any other sport...some get faster, hit more HR, linemen are 330 lbs now...the guys today are more conditioned, bigger and more complete than those before them....there are always exceptions to the rule, and physiques that are less than stellar....
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Bigger not always better .
for example,here are Hide's pics:
#1 is Feb 28th,2008 (90kg)
#2 is May 6th,2008 (100kg)
That's why I am disappointed in pro bodybuilding ?
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That's why I am disappointed in pro bodybuilding ?
My biggest disappointment in bodybuilding is people who claims to be lifetime natural, but is definitely not.
Pros do that too, but in a different way. They admit using drugs, but everyone is taking "less than most", Lee Priest being the worst liar in this department.
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Every generation thinks the sport has "taken a dive"....from the 40's till now.
Bodybuilding progresses, just like any other sport...some get faster, hit more HR, linemen are 330 lbs now...the guys today are more conditioned, bigger and more complete than those before them....there are always exceptions to the rule, and physiques that are less than stellar....
That's true, but linemen are not judged on their physical apperance.
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My biggest disappointment in bodybuilding is people who claims to be lifetime natural, but is definitely not.
Pros do that too, but in a different way. They admit using drugs, but everyone is taking "less than most", Lee Priest being the worst liar in this department.
I really don't want to argue with you ! I've said this many many times........
Because you post under your "user name" certainly have the advantage of speaking whatever you want .
but I use real name ,pics,address.......
(here are 2 of my pics,
pic1 is 1986
pic 2 is May .2008)
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I like to train and eat right, but it seems like these days that = teh gay around here. Someone post's a natural guy who is around 190 lb's - ( in great shape), and everyone says he is a tiny tit.
Interesting how the pro culture has changed what a good physique is these days.
Right, It's fucking ridiculous around here, when it comes to that regard.
Just like the idiots who refer to Frank Zane as a "swimmer", but admire the huge bloated, gut-having bastards. How fucking retarded.
While bbing, has always had its "gay" roots.....I think at one point it could have been considered an art form. Now-a-days, it's a fucking freak show. :-\
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every single top professional trains hard and lives bodybuilding. sure, some of them get to eat whatever they want with their protein, sure, some of em dont have to do cardio, sure, they take alot os steroids. but your not gonna be a top pro, or even make it pro for that matter, without sacrificing a whole lot to get that body. regardless of how much drugs you take.
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I don't hate it, and i definitely don't hate any pro. I respect them for their hard work. We can all joke around here and say "all drugs" and so on, but at the end of the day these guys bust their arse and put a lot of effort into what they do...
but..
what i don't like is the seedy (pardon the pun) aspects of pro bb'ing. Most pros don't do g4p or any of that, but it amazes me how many do stupid shit just to make a few bucks. These guys need to realise that it isn't hard to become a personal trainer, and they would actually have an advantage if they were one. Or just have a regular job. I have a tonne of respect for guys like Jay Cutler, Branch Warren and even the new guy Erik Fankhouser. These guys work hard and give pro bb'ing a good image. Guys like Kai and others, they may be nice people, but they give pro bb'ing a bad image.
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these guys make millions of dollars..... just like the nfl/mlb players...quit hating on them
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Too many guys who just dont have the muslce SHAPE are taking bodybuilding too seriously.....Example Palumbo or Paco Bautista. They just don't have the genetics to look pleasing on stage. Mountains of conditioned mass isnt gonna take bodybuilding forward. Its a few elite guys with awesome shape that should be winning shows. Alot of guys need to accept they aint got the GENETICS to be a pro bodybuilder and no amount of drugs is gonna change that
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i honeslty had much respect for these pro bbers... when i was younger but talking to some of them and this site called getbig .... i then realized they are getting fucked.
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It's more of an IFBB problem than an athlete problem. If the IFBB enforced it's rules on drug testing and personal conduct, it would start to look more professional. Judging is also an IFBB issue, and they hold the power to take bodybuilding in any direction. I would like to see the IFBB have a strategy for improvement rather than continuing to have a free for all environment.
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It's more of an IFBB problem than an athlete problem. If the IFBB enforced it's rules on drug testing and personal conduct, it would start to look more professional. Judging is also an IFBB issue, and they hold the power to take bodybuilding in any direction. I would like to see the IFBB have a strategy for improvement rather than continuing to have a free for all environment.
Agree !
Change That Matters
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making money in the "fitness/bbing" industry is about telling naive and insecure skinny, ugly or fat people that buying powders will help them get more confidence and have a better life. That they will solve all their problems by lifting weights.
Lifting weights may help you learn about dedication, consistency and work ethic, it's the good part of the message, but eating powders like there's no tomorow to look like a 300 pounds chemically enhanced pro bber is pure nonsens .
A few people are succesful at lifting weights and then improve their everyday life after getting more confident and re-shaping their bodies, but most of those who pay gym subscriptions or powders from bbing.com are those who truly make this 'industry" survive.
All in all the goal to get people lift weights, increase confidence and health is positive. The only way to make money out of it is to make profit from these people, these beginners and quitters .
Why blame those who try to make a living out of the bodybuilding world? They re just doing what they're good at,and answering a demand from people who need them to "get in shape" that's all.
Yes lifting weights is positive, but being a brainless fan of pro bbing can at best be qualified as a hobby and is another thing.
There s a big difference between being a consistant and succesful weight lifter and being a gay worshiper of steroids users posing in thong.
These are two separate and different world.
If bodybuilding.com can get more people into taking care of their health then so be it, it's something positive. Now I agree they could use real natural models and distance themselves from steroid induced pro bbing.
It's a mixed message they 're sending that need to be untainted.
If their goal is really to promote health and confidence by lifting weights , then why do they have bob chick as a representant? Maybe because he sells , and it's not his fault or bbing fault if people believe they re going to look like him using protein powders, it's actually because of people's stupidity, so why not make money out of it.
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i dont hate it. i just dont care. i followed it closely for years. ever since the late 90s it has gone downhill. nowdays i just worry about my own training. 60min in the gym 3 days a week. rest of the time i dont think of bodybuilding at all.
*posting on getbig not included (hardly post anymore tho....i know more than 99% on this board about training/nutrition so not much to learn here, so just post some random bs now and then)
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i dont hate it. i just dont care. i followed it closely for years. ever since the late 90s it has gone downhill. nowdays i just worry about my own training. 60min in the gym 3 days a week. rest of the time i dont think of bodybuilding at all.
*posting on getbig not included (hardly post anymore tho....i know more than 99% on this board about training/nutrition so not much to learn here, so just post some random bs now and then)
thats a pretty bold statement honestly. have you ever posted pics ?
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This thread is meant to spark discussion on the current state of bodybuilding. When I first started posting here years ago, I was interested in pro bb. Since then, I have come to view the "sport" as a total joke, and I am ashamed of the current form of pro bodybuilding. Back in it's golden days, bodybuilding was a great activity, with great physiques, and a healthy look. Now pro bb is a total joke, drama everywhere, gay for pay, massive amounts of chemicals, twinks and bloated retards tipping the scales at over 300 pounds. basically every pro is a pathological lier, and most are about to die.
I come here to grab advice on training, and to talk about training, but as far as pro bodybuilding goes - I hate it. Honestly, just step back and look at the current state of the "sport" - I know it's not a true sport..
Will the pendulum ever swing back to the other side, and will bb be restored as a legitimate endeavor? Or will things just get worse?
I agree with that post pretty much.
At first I thought pro bodybuilding was the most awesome sport. I think with the rising popularity of the message boards and people being exposed to what it REALLY takes to be a pro bodybuilder...the respect goes away by itself.
I still remember as a young teen I thought these guys were natural!!! ;D
BUt now, the more pros I meet and the more involved I am, my respect has been replaced with pitty...the ifbb is just a freakshow to me now, a drama filled freakshow. :(
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thats a pretty bold statement honestly. have you ever posted pics ?
for a natural, it ain't a bold statement, it's a fact; train 4/5 hours a week, eat proteins, carbs, low fats... it's no reocket science and you can build a decent muscle mass.
the real question is, when are we going to differentiate natural bodybuilding and "pro bodybuilding" on steroids once for all.
People at bodybuilding.com are selling unefective powders to naturals using steroid users as role models.
Most of us are natural and come here to laugh at the extremist behavior of steroids users and see how far our insecurities could get us if we weren't smart enough to just stick to lifting weights and eat healthy for improved well being and confidence.
As it is it, bodybuilding can only be considered as a hobby like car tuning or modelism.
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for a natural, it ain't a bold statement, it's a fact; train 4/5 hours a week, eat proteins, carbs, low fats... it's no reocket science and you can build a decent muscle mass.
the real question is, when are we going to differentiate natural bodybuilding and "pro bodybuilding" on steroids once for all.
People at bodybuilding.com are selling unefective powders to naturals using steroid users as role models.
Most of us are natural and come here to laugh at the extremist behavior of steroids users and see how far our insecurities could get us if we weren't smart enough to just stick to lifting weights and eat healthy for improved well being and confidence.
As it is it, bodybuilding can only be considered as a hobby like car tuning or modelism.
bold statement saying he knows more than 99% of the people on here is what i ment
and i dont think protein powders are uneffective in any way. it is what it is... protein aka nutrition...
the no3x5000 explode pump tech 3000 or whatever silly names they come up with is bullshit supplements though
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I really don't want to argue with you ! I've said this many many times........
Because you post under your "user name" certainly have the advantage of speaking whatever you want .
but I use real name ,pics,address.......
(here are 2 of my pics,
pic1 is 1986
pic 2 is May .2008)
Musclecenter rocks.
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I am a former athlete, and I aspire to look like one.
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Well lemme tell ya buddy: I have the physique of a former athlete and it ain't all peaches 'n cream.
Seriously, ya I agree. I'm more interested in gaining nutrition and training knowledge, and I like the atmosphere here. I don't hate bodybuilding but I don't follow it as a fan either. I'd take my current tiny tit physique over the grotesque, misshapen, bloated pros with 40" guts.
Maybe the IFBB should institute some minimum ratios that have to be met before you can step on stage (hopefully with a view to reducing the ridiculous pumpkin guts on these guys), like waist/chest and waist/shoulder ratios? No need to respond Bob. It's just a thought.
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Believe it or Not at one time the IFBB did have specifics about BB it was if you had an 18inch neck you should also have 18 inch calves and 18 inch biceps also the back of the head was to be in line with the Butt shoulders had to be level and No spinal curve.Yep it use to be in the Judging Criteria.
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(here are 2 of my pics,
pic1 is 1986
pic 2 is May .2008)
That's what I mean. You look great in picture 1, why not just admit you've done steroids? No asian man is able to look like that naturally, period. Again, remember.. I'm complementing your physique here! Why not tell the truth? You will feel better in your heart.
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Not really, I don't think most the pros have pleasing physiques. I'm not into the circus freak look, and I never have been. I am a former athlete, and I aspire to look like one. I like a nice physique, that has the ability to back up how it looks.
Typical response though, I question the current state of bb, and I'm jealous of the parchute pant wearing drug freaks. I can honestly say, I would never want to look like any of the top pro's. Thats just my opinion of course. I have no problem with people who like that look.
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Like I have said, none other than Arnold laughs at these buffoons and how they carry themselves
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friends,,
you need to understand something about professional bodybuilding and anything bodybuilding from state and regional level and up
IT HAS A LOT OF DRUGS AROUND IT,,none controlled and controlled,,
the whole story of the end of the 90s into the end of the 2000s will be written one day some place and thr truth will get out,,there are specific charecters that simply ruined the sport ,,characters such as palumbo ,,milos,,etc,,then there is the abusers from the murderer to tomas to these days tropipins,,the only common thing to all of the above is the constant LIES ,,this is the one thing that is consistant to all the fellas gh15 just mentioned,,always lie inorder to sell something or to present a "natural" sell,,always money in the head and lies in the mouth,,fellas like skip,,fellas like jeff,,fellas like valentino,,the one common thing to all is the constant need to lie inorder to get from point a to point b
bodybuilding is 90% drugs and then 10% of muscle shape and effort put as in consistancy and determination in gym and outside gym,,alwys remember what im tellin you right here ,,bodybuilding is 90% drugs and not only professional it start at the regional level and even before that in the ymca usa and you better believe it friends
you will never touch heavy poundage on 500 mg test and 400 mg nandrolone ,,you will if really put consistancy in gym get to 220lb more or less and stop right there,,you may look good may have low body fat but you will not get to the really big numbers you are all after as in the 240+,,,the reason there are so many average guys walking around is because they listen to all the crap about 500 mg test and 400 mg deca and 35 mg dianabol,,those numbers are good for a 226 pound 5'10 bodybuilder ,,they are no good for 250 pound bodybuilder friends
there is a direct relashion between the doses taken by the bodybuilder and his or her size ,,the more you use the bigger you will get,,there is a law of diminisahing return that comes at the 10 gram a week and not before for the truly 250lb + bodybuilder
many here do not understand that a bodybuilder ,,a sucesful one if first and formost knowing his stakcs very well or someone knows it for him ,,every drug has its own purpose,,you have liers who tell you oh take nandrolone and it can be like dianabol while in reality the 2 drugs are totoally diff ,,dianabol will give you super strength comparing to nandrolone in addition to your muscles being a lot fuller and a lot more swole,,on nandrolone you will have a weight gain but a lot less of a swole physiqe,,,now they tell you add tetsosterone in and it will solve everything...NO test is simply there for agressivness and more intense work outs..but by no means is it even close to dianabol in the strength and over all good feeling a bodybuilder feels on dianabol,,,test and nandrolone will result in over all weight increase with agressivness and high sex drive,,,test and dianabol will fill up your muscles alot better and will give you the swole godish feeling that no nandrolone can ever produce,,,the lies about jump start a cycle with dianabol because it takes time until test and nandroloen work is all bullshit ...the drugs all start working from the moment you put them in yoru ass and mouth ,,,from the first hour with oral and first 2 days with inject,,the reason why bodybuilders take all 3 together now days is to cover for fakes...their dealer usually push them one fake becuase the dealer himself have hard time to figure out whats what,,and another reason they are all taken together is to to have the effect of each drug working together with the other drug and those 3 always work very well together
so to conclude this small 101 class about hormone and the bodybuilder,,the reason bodybuilding especially professional got to be so hated by many is the LIES,,the fact that stakcs can not be mentioned,,the fact that you can see in the eyes that we bodybuilders are high on something and you can tell we are swolen with sausage fingers due to gh and you can tell that we are water loggs due to test nandroloen and dianabol ...yet we stand next to getny supplemtnt store and sell you some creatine and a night realsing protien that can make your sperm and sleep better...its all lies that keep us in a cult atmosphere and make the rich richer and the poor poorer...and the pooor are? you got that right the bodybuilders who buy into this shit because they only start competing in a local show and insted of building themselves right they buy into suppl bullshit
i mean think about it for a second ...do you really think stan mccowy was born blessed? do you really think kamali was born more than a skinny fella with no limbs? do you really think that kucelo the kid was anything over 160lb soaked wet couple years ago? IT IS ALL IN THE DRUGS ,,wiht otu the drugs the food and the training wont lead to no where,,it will lead you into always reminaing sub 200lb and always fighting to be 13% insted of 15%
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Nobody likes the direction it's going in and if we don't like it, then we have to change it. Stop buying the popular magazines, stop going to IFBB and NPC shows-even the Arnold, and stop talking about it. In this case, if you ignore it, it will go away. Do this while at the same time promoting healthy living, drug free bodybuilding and fitness and athleticism-which most of the people on this board are interested in anyway.
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IFBB appears to be the most twisted "pro" sporting organisation on the planet.
All sporting organisations go through there dramas. IFBB no diffrent, but makes me cringe how they keep shop. I think it is really poor the way they have so far handled the Titus thing.
I feel sorry for Bob as he was excellent athlete and appears like a cool guy but the powers that be have taken the piss out of his "job". Whippingboy has taken Joe's place as the face of the business, which must be good and easy for them.
Too bad the PDI did not work out, but really there show looked like a high school musical doing a free form interpretation of the Night Of Champions.
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The athlete who use Synthol should be banned for life.
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This shot is better.
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it's cool the warden trusts her with those high heel shoes in prison.
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The athlete who use Synthol should be banned for life.
hmm, it seems like every athlete uses synth or something like it. It's just the ones that misuse it that we identify as users. Really, Chick is right. In the 70's, Arnold was a freak and way too big and disgusting, Reeves was the ideal-it's no different now. Bbing has progressed in exactly the way the public has demanded, plain and simple. Don't like it, don't buy it. And if you really want to make a difference, don't buy it while you are buying what you do like.