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Title: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 03:46:01 AM
BBing is the muscle!
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Post by: JasonH on June 27, 2008, 03:47:10 AM
DAMN  :o

Crazy pic.
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Post by: DK II on June 27, 2008, 03:47:50 AM
BBing is the muscle!


who is that little chinaman in the pic?























































just kidding, kyomu.  ;D
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 03:50:06 AM
who is that little chinaman in the pic?























































just kidding, kyomu.  ;D
8)
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: DK II on June 27, 2008, 03:51:14 AM
8)

so, does he tempt you to go on the juice?
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Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 03:52:49 AM
so, does he tempt you to go on the juice?
Nah. Never. He knows my policy very well. And he respects my way unlike many juicers.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Simple Carbs on June 27, 2008, 03:56:44 AM
BBing is the muscle!

schmoe meets muscle idol.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: DK II on June 27, 2008, 03:57:15 AM
Paco is either 7', or kyomu is 4'8.



both.  ;)
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Post by: Meso_z on June 27, 2008, 04:02:09 AM
BBing is the muscle!


great peak.  8)
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 04:04:06 AM
both.  ;)
Hehehe. I am 3.5.

In reality, almost same height.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Cleanest Natural on June 27, 2008, 04:07:01 AM
Hey Kyomu ... I had the pleasure to be trained for a while by an IFBB Pro namely Ron Love....During that time I learned more about training nutrition and drugs than in the past 10 yearscombined....I cherrish that expirience and still keep in touch with Ron.


I'm sure you ahave the same thing with Paco...If you are kind, share more pictures like this one and what you are learning from Paco.

Despite the retards posting on Getbig, there are tons of people here that would value that kind of info..(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/14115-3/1991-mr-olympia-10.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=50dea74914f276304edae2e74c7afaab)

(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/40210-3/2008-new-york-pro-366.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=1ac47b1c81388e72e19975f0ebd582c0)
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Your MAAAAaaaa on June 27, 2008, 04:13:07 AM
schmoe meets muscle idol.

Agreed!


ta ta
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Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 04:14:03 AM
Hey Kyomu ... I had the pleasure to be trained for a while by an IFBB Pro namely Ron Love....During that time I learned more about training nutrition and drugs than in the past 10 yearscombined....I cherrish that expirience and still keep in touch with Ron.


I'm sure you ahave the same thing with Paco...If you are kind, share more pictures like this one and what you are learning from Paco.

Despite the retards posting on Getbig, there are tons of people here that would value that kind of info..(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/14115-3/1991-mr-olympia-10.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=50dea74914f276304edae2e74c7afaab)

(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/40210-3/2008-new-york-pro-366.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=1ac47b1c81388e72e19975f0ebd582c0)
Of course,thats a fun. I will do it.
But sorry about cycles, cus i am a natural and he take care of me as a natural bber.
But, i ask about cycles some time and i can tell you.
Yesterday, we were talking about viagra. He said that its a plain stupid crazy idea for making very subtle change,Its a drug for fuck, not for bbing.

I met Ron Love in the greek restaurant in Detroit in 1991. He had unreal deltoids!!
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 04:18:41 AM
schmoe meets muscle idol.
hahaha. Exactly. 8)
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Post by: Stark on June 27, 2008, 04:19:26 AM
amazing looking guns  :o
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Post by: Cleanest Natural on June 27, 2008, 04:22:49 AM
let me guess...downtown detroit right next to the greek casino
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Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 04:33:51 AM
let me guess...downtown detroit right next to the greek casino

I dont remember very well,i have just visited one time. Because my ex girl friend took me there once.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Brutal_1 on June 27, 2008, 04:41:11 AM



Kyomu, looks like you've nailed the "tongue out, pointing" pose...good job!  ;)
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 04:42:36 AM


Kyomu, looks like you've nailed the "tongue out, pointing" pose...good job!  ;)
8)
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Cleanest Natural on June 27, 2008, 04:45:07 AM
CAN you tell us what have u seen Paco eat ?
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 04:50:25 AM
CAN you tell us what have u seen Paco eat ?
Quite boring for you guys....
Today he was eating 300g of chicken and around 300g of potato and few beggies.
For him, that is very small amount. And he was very very tired. And even he couldnt concentrate on our conversation very well. ;D
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: io856 on June 27, 2008, 04:51:25 AM
How does Paco make his money?
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 04:52:24 AM
How does Paco make his money?
Mostly come from his gym income and his sponsor.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Jeffro on June 27, 2008, 04:52:34 AM
Quite boring for you guys....
Today he was eating 300g of chicken and around 300g of potato and few beggies.
For him, that is very small amount. And he was very very tired. And even he couldnt concentrate on our conversation very well. ;D
What kind of "beggies" did he have?
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: affeman on June 27, 2008, 04:53:05 AM
Does Paco get medical check-ups from time to time??
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Post by: io856 on June 27, 2008, 04:53:45 AM
Mostly come from his gym income and his sponsor.
So he owns a  gym? ...sorry Im just interested in how these driven individuals make their living through something they love.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: DK II on June 27, 2008, 04:58:00 AM
What kind of "beggies" did he have?

vroccori, callots, corifrower and peas.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Jeffro on June 27, 2008, 04:58:24 AM
vroccori, callots, corifrower and peas.
haahahhaahhahaahhahaahahhahahahahaahha  ;D
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 04:58:47 AM
So he owns a  gym? ...sorry Im just interested in how these driven individuals make their living through something they love.
Yes. He owns a gym and i am training there. Many competitors there.
His wife is the instructor of aerobics. There also Taekwondo is popular and they win several trophy also.
Also they do Aikido and fullcontact.
Small. But quite complete.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: affeman on June 27, 2008, 04:59:57 AM
Yes. He owns a gym and i am training there. Many competitors there.
His wife is the instructor of aerobics. There also Taekwondo is popular and they win several trophy also.
Also they do Aikido and fullcontact.
Small. But quite complete.

Do you have a picture of his wife??
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 05:00:25 AM
What kind of "beggies" did he have?
Mmmm I dont know the name. I have seen only one kind in his plate.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 05:01:00 AM
Does Paco get medical check-ups from time to time??
Dont know,i will ask.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 05:02:06 AM
Do you have a picture of his wife??
:)
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Faust on June 27, 2008, 05:04:12 AM
So Paco lives in Barcelona? Is he a real catalan? Do you speak spanish with him?
Is his wife also Spanish? She doesn't really look so...
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Jeffro on June 27, 2008, 05:04:50 AM
Kyomu, do you think his wife is hot?
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Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 05:19:10 AM
So Paco lives in Barcelona? Is he a real catalan? Do you speak spanish with him?
Is his wife also Spanish? She doesn't really look so...
Of course. All his life in Barcelona. But I have never heard his speaking in Catalan.
I speak Castellano(Spanish) with him.
His wife looks like Spanish very well. Maybe the pic looks different for you.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 05:21:20 AM
Kyomu, do you think his wife is hot?
Yes. She looks good and fine character. She will keep a company with him in houston this time.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Jeffro on June 27, 2008, 05:56:45 AM
Yes. She looks good and fine character. She will keep a company with him in houston this time.
How do you think he'll do in Houston?
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Post by: DK II on June 27, 2008, 06:01:51 AM
How do you think he'll do in Houston?

I just hope he doesn't try to smuggle a bag of viagra without prescription with him.  ;D
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Post by: Jeffro on June 27, 2008, 06:02:36 AM
I just hope he doesn't try to smuggle a bag of viagra without prescription with him.  ;D
;D ;D
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 06:03:43 AM
How do you think he'll do in Houston?
He will be in the best shape of his life super shredded and huge.
But he wont do well with current judging which put high value on only shape.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 06:04:55 AM
I just hope he doesn't try to smuggle a bag of viagra without prescription with him.  ;D
hahahahahaha! he is not stupid like Hide. And I wont let him do it too. ;D
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Monster_Everything on June 27, 2008, 06:05:24 AM
The thread reeks of man on man love... oh brotha
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Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 06:06:40 AM
The thread reeks of man on man love... oh brotha
I was waiting for your baseless bashing me as usual. ;D
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Post by: TrueGrit on June 27, 2008, 06:07:09 AM
Kyomu, you are related to Ken Hom, yes?
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Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 06:11:31 AM
Kyomu, you are related to Ken Hom, yes?
Why chinese cook has something to do with me?
I am related to Ferran Adria. 8)
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Post by: TrueGrit on June 27, 2008, 06:14:24 AM
Why chinese cook has something to do with me?



(http://digilib.ite.edu.sg/images/BK112425.jpg)
(http://www.aahuk.org/Press%20Releases/Events/images/KENHOM_001.JPG)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=221260.0;attach=259242;image)
 
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Jeffro on June 27, 2008, 06:17:01 AM
Paco looks so healthy  ::)
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Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 06:17:55 AM

(http://digilib.ite.edu.sg/images/BK112425.jpg)
(http://www.aahuk.org/Press%20Releases/Events/images/KENHOM_001.JPG)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=221260.0;attach=259242;image)
 
Hahahahaha! I see! Then also Dharai lama no?
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Post by: DK II on June 27, 2008, 06:19:35 AM
Paco looks so healthy  ::)

how old is he?
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Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 06:28:19 AM
how old is he?
I dont know exactly.but about  same as me.
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Post by: TrueGrit on June 27, 2008, 06:29:59 AM
Hahahahaha! I see! Then also Dharai lama no?
Not so much bro..more Ken imo!
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Post by: Jeffro on June 27, 2008, 06:30:40 AM
Im not sure how old he is.  But i do know that if he keeps juicing at this rate he wont be living much longer  :-X


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Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 06:32:25 AM
Im not sure how old he is.  But i do know that if he keeps juicing at this rate he wont be living much longer  :-X



I will leave your message to him tomorrow. ;D
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Post by: DK II on June 27, 2008, 06:33:05 AM
Im not sure how old he is.  But i do know that if he keeps juicing at this rate he wont be living much longer  :-X




250mg enantat/week
20mg d-bol
30g why post WO
50g vitargo (TM)

 ;D ;D
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Post by: funk51 on June 27, 2008, 06:33:32 AM
freddie
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Post by: Jeffro on June 27, 2008, 06:34:20 AM
I will leave your message to him tomorrow. ;D
Come on bro, you know he's juiced to the gills
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 06:34:43 AM
250mg enantat/week
20mg d-bol
30g why post WO
50g vitargo (TM)

 ;D ;D
He dont like Vitargo. ;D
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Polartec on June 27, 2008, 06:35:20 AM
I remember seeing a short video of Paco a few years back. He was coughing hard every few seconds (Fina cough, perhaps?) and looked as if he was very uncomfortable. Did not seem healthy at all (but looked crazy huge  8) )

Seems like a cool guy, hope all is well with him.

Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 06:36:03 AM
Come on bro, you know he's juiced to the gills
He juices but not to the gills.
Juicing is not the matter of amount, its a matter of timing.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Jeffro on June 27, 2008, 06:36:45 AM
He juice but not to the gills.
Juicing is not the matter of amount, its a matter of timing.
He takes more than he lets on
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 06:38:00 AM
I remember seeing a short video of Paco a few years back. He was coughing hard every few seconds (Fina cough, perhaps?) and looked as if he was very uncomfortable. Did not seem healthy at all (but looked crazy huge  8) )

Seems like a cool guy, hope all is well with him.


Maybe he caught a cold or something. But He is suffering from hot always now. ;D
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Post by: Lurker79 on June 27, 2008, 06:38:44 AM
Lol Paco is a walking contradiction. Big but ripped as hell. Shitty body parts (chest) mixed with awesome ones (arms/legs).
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Post by: Jeffro on June 27, 2008, 06:40:27 AM
Crazy condition   but somethings off with his physique   His legs are short and his waist is wide
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Post by: Lurker79 on June 27, 2008, 06:43:46 AM
It'd be interesting to see how he looked before. kyomu, パコの若い時の写真ある?
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 06:44:15 AM
He takes more than he lets on
He dont feel that bad about juicing and he dont hide the truth as you think.
he is believing in super hard training and diet more
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 06:45:45 AM
It'd be interesting to see how he looked before. kyomu, パコの若い時の写真ある?
I will ask him to show me. But how young it should be?
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Post by: Lurker79 on June 27, 2008, 06:46:56 AM
I will ask him to show me. But how young it should be?

Maybe some of his early competitions. Before he became a freak :D
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Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 06:49:47 AM
Maybe some of his early competitions. Before he became a freak :D
I have seen several. But already a freak with small version.
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Post by: BayGBM on June 27, 2008, 07:25:35 AM
who is that little chinaman in the pic?


just kidding, kyomu.  ;D

He's got the right expression.   :P :P
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Post by: pumpher on June 27, 2008, 07:48:26 AM
Cool pic!
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Post by: The Master on June 27, 2008, 07:50:38 AM
This Paco seems like a cool guy
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Post by: Meso_z on June 27, 2008, 07:54:11 AM
This Paco seems like a cool guy

yes, he generally keeps a low profile as a pro. I like this guy.
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Post by: Stavios on June 27, 2008, 08:02:37 AM
you are very lucky to be able to train with him Kyomu, I am sure you will learn a lot and make big progresses in a short time
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Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 08:22:38 AM
yes, he generally keeps a low profile as a pro. I like this guy.
I have known him for 7 years. Always has been nice to me.
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Post by: Parker on June 27, 2008, 08:26:41 AM
BBing is the muscle!


Uhh, big guns, but small for his size, especially when you compare his legs, and wide gut waist. Paco has and always will be a collection of bodyparts, some good, some bad, some insane, but never the most put-together. 
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: RZA on June 27, 2008, 08:29:00 AM
I'm sorry Kyomu but BBing is also about conditionning (ok, Paco has insane conditioning, I'll agree on that), definition, symmetry, proportions,...Otherwise, Kovacs would have been one of the all-time greats.
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Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 08:34:41 AM
you are very lucky to be able to train with him Kyomu, I am sure you will learn a lot and make big progresses in a short time
Yes. I think so. This pic is no pump and taken in the morning.
I got bit fat but grew a lot to 200lbs.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 08:35:58 AM
I'm sorry Kyomu but BBing is also about conditionning (ok, Paco has insane conditioning, I'll agree on that), definition, symmetry, proportions,...Otherwise, Kovacs would have been one of the all-time greats.
Dont be sorry for me. I am really agree with you.
Just i think his place is tooo low. Thats it.
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Post by: spinnis on June 27, 2008, 08:38:20 AM
Dont be sorry for me. I am really agree with you.
Just i think his place is tooo low. Thats it.

Why not use little bit of roids?
You have trained hard all your life, you earned it!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Stavios on June 27, 2008, 08:39:10 AM
looking awesome there kyomu, great physique
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Post by: RZA on June 27, 2008, 08:41:41 AM
Why not use little bit of roids?
You have trained hard all your life, you earned it!!!!!!!!!

Why would he? He looks fine, he could be a little bit dryer to show definition but the overall built is good, good wheels, his lats stand out clearly. If you can build a 200lbs physique naturally, why would you need roids for? He's not aiming at the Sandow this year from what he's been saying.
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Post by: MAXX on June 27, 2008, 08:42:03 AM
Why not use little bit of roids?
You have trained hard all your life, you earned it!!!!!!!!!
why dont you use some?!?
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 08:42:31 AM
Why not use little bit of roids?
You have trained hard all your life, you earned it!!!!!!!!!
If i use them, i would do everything.

If i dont, i will do it with totaly nothing.

Its a philosophical matter.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 08:45:55 AM
looking awesome there kyomu, great physique
Thanx.How is your comp? Its this weekend isnt it?
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: musclehedz on June 27, 2008, 08:49:09 AM
BBing is the muscle!


Time for you to get on the sauce. You will love it.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 08:58:27 AM
Time for you to get on the sauce. You will love it.
Tell you one of the many many reasons.
I put higher value on shrredded with 190lbs natural more than 200lbs on juice.
Why? Since i saw many good competitors and i dont want to be the one of many of them.
But 190lbs natural with good condition? Very very rare.
If i can achive 200lbs? Historical. But with gear, NOT.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Steve Namat on June 27, 2008, 09:02:52 AM
Kyomu, do you know what Paco think about the IFBB pro judging? What's his opinion about this subject? Because at amateur level a "Paco-type" physique can win almost every show, but since he turned pro he didn't place well...except in Spain.. ::)..and back in 2002 at the Night of Champions.
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Post by: Charlys69 on June 27, 2008, 09:04:08 AM
Does Paco get medical check-ups from time to time??

The President of the spanish IFBB is a Doctor and Friend of Paco (Dr. Jose Ramos, i trained 2 times in his home-gym in Calella, not far from Barcelona)
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: RZA on June 27, 2008, 09:06:52 AM
Tell you one of the many many reasons.
I put higher value on shrredded with 190lbs natural more than 200lbs on juice.
Why? Since i saw many good competitors and i dont want to be one of many of them.
But 190lbs natural with good condition? Very very rare.
If i can achive 200lbs? Historical. But with gear, NOT.

If you tend to be an over-achiever (like me), you'll forever stay away from the juice. It just blurs everything and you end up not knowing why you're making progress, the hard work or the juicing.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 09:11:05 AM
Kyomu, do you know what Paco think about the IFBB pro judging? What's his opinion about this subject? Because at amateur level a "Paco-type" physique can win almost every show, but since he turned pro he didn't place well...except in Spain.. ::)..and back in 2002 at the Night of Champions.
Mmmmmmm YES. I know what he thinks about it....
Sorry my friend. But I had better shut up my mouth about it.

About Sant Susana. There were only two judges were Spanish.
And in my opinion, in 2002, still judge had put same values on three big element of bbing(Mass, condition and shape). Now looks like Shape is the most important thing....
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 09:11:58 AM
The President of the spanish IFBB is a Doctor and Friend of Paco (Dr. Jose Ramos, i trained 2 times in his home-gym in Calella, not far from Barcelona)
Yeah, they are. But not so close as you believe. ;)
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: SAMSON123 on June 27, 2008, 09:13:01 AM
So Paco lives in Barcelona? Is he a real catalan? Do you speak spanish with him?
Is his wife also Spanish? She doesn't really look so...

Spanish is a language the race of Spaniards is CAUCASIAN.....
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Stavios on June 27, 2008, 09:13:10 AM
Thanx.How is your comp? Its this weekend isnt it?

yop july 5th
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 09:16:10 AM
If you tend to be an over-achiever (like me), you'll forever stay away from the juice. It just blurs everything and you end up not knowing why you're making progress, the hard work or the juicing.
For me, using steroid means Olympia or at least pro. So if i cant achive it, i will end up with not knowing why i am making progress.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 09:17:43 AM
yop july 5th
Dont overdo your thing. Just maintain, you are already done.
Hang on tight.Just lil bit more!
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: HeyNow on June 27, 2008, 09:30:00 AM
I remember seeing a short video of Paco a few years back. He was coughing hard every few seconds (Fina cough, perhaps?) and looked as if he was very uncomfortable. Did not seem healthy at all (but looked crazy huge  8) )

Seems like a cool guy, hope all is well with him.



You are such an idiot and your statement shows how little you know about anabolics.  Fina cough happens while/immediately after you inject if hit something while injecting it.  Very stupid post by you homeboy.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Monster_Everything on June 27, 2008, 09:34:53 AM
 ???
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 09:37:53 AM
???
If you dont understand, please leave me alone. You are not Jaejeona right?
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Stavios on June 27, 2008, 09:51:47 AM
Dont overdo your thing. Just maintain, you are already done.
Hang on tight.Just lil bit more!

thanks bro, work out hard
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Figo on June 27, 2008, 10:12:34 AM
Paco has huge arms, and the humongous quads and hams, monster.

Pity bout the blocky waist...
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: slaveboy1980 on June 27, 2008, 10:13:32 AM
Paco has huge arms, and the humongous quads and hams, monster.

Pity bout the blocky waist...

he should try to wear a really tight corset

Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Figo on June 27, 2008, 10:19:05 AM
he should try to wear a really tight corset



Its a good idea, that. Could catch on. Definitely accentuates the taper.

(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii225/janspanties/man5.jpg)
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Fatpanda on June 27, 2008, 10:19:14 AM
Hey Kyomu ... I had the pleasure to be trained for a while by an IFBB Pro namely Ron Love....During that time I learned more about training nutrition and drugs than in the past 10 yearscombined....I

yes you can tell  ::)
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Mars on June 27, 2008, 10:27:37 AM
paco is a monster, he should have been rewarded more.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Polartec on June 27, 2008, 10:28:41 AM
You are such an idiot and your statement shows how little you know about anabolics.  Fina cough happens while/immediately after you inject if hit something while injecting it.  Very stupid post by you homeboy.

Oh my, I seem to have upset the almighty steroid guru!   ;D

I was asking a question, numbnuts. I wasn't stating it as fact.

Oh, and stop calling people "homeboy".  ::)





Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: TrueGrit on June 27, 2008, 10:30:04 AM
yes you can tell  ::)

LOL..ouch
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: slaveboy1980 on June 27, 2008, 10:30:47 AM
Oh my, I seem to have upset the almighty steroid guru!   ;D

I was asking a question, numbnuts. I wasn't stating it as fact.

Oh, and stop calling people "homeboy".  ::)







dealer lingo
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: affeman on June 27, 2008, 11:02:58 AM
Uhh, big guns, but small for his size, especially when you compare his legs, and wide gut waist. Paco has and always will be a collection of bodyparts, some good, some bad, some insane, but never the most put-together. 

And that's exactly the reason why a guy like Paco should never step on a stage or even juice. Steroids can't change your structure, and if your structure is shit you'll look like shit, no matter how big you are, no matter how dry you are. He is possibly one of the biggest and leanest guys on stage nowadays, but he can't benefit from it, as his horrible structure will always remain. All he can do is ruin his health, but he won't place any better the way he looks. He has already achieved anything he could with his physique (you can't hardly get any bigger or dryer), but his placings won't get better.

Tell him that, "kyomu"! Tell him to quit before it's too late, he should just train for fun for himself. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: musclehedz on June 27, 2008, 11:06:32 AM
Would like to see some more pics of his wife  :P
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Method101 on June 27, 2008, 01:21:07 PM
This thing looks like Paco, at his healthiest... or maybe not waist is to small
(http://www.gamerevolution.com/oldsite/games/ps2/action/ultimate_spider_man_venom.jpg)
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 02:05:48 PM
This thing looks like Paco, at his healthiest... or maybe not waist is to small
(http://www.gamerevolution.com/oldsite/games/ps2/action/ultimate_spider_man_venom.jpg)
wooooooooooow cool, my trainer is a supernatural creature. 8) 8)
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Monster_Everything on June 27, 2008, 02:37:25 PM
wooooooooooow cool, my trainer is a supernatural creature. 8) 8)
maybe your 'lost in translation' but what you just said and things like that come off as kinda homo.

hope this helps

ps not a baseless attack, you pay 'paco' to be your trainer (known g4p) and you believe that its concievable that he is an animated drawing of 'Venom'.

Time to grow up Peter Pan
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 27, 2008, 03:03:16 PM
maybe your 'lost in translation' but what you just said and things like that come off as kinda homo.

hope this helps

ps not a baseless attack, you pay 'paco' to be your trainer (known g4p) and you believe that its concievable that he is an animated drawing of 'Venom'.

Time to grow up Peter Pan
Thank you young little kid. You can talk to me when you own your company in the foreign country more than 5 years.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: jr on June 27, 2008, 06:08:43 PM
Paco is lucky to be training with Kyomu. He can learn a lot from Kyomu's long time experience as a bodybuilder.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: no one on June 27, 2008, 07:50:20 PM
I remember seeing a short video of Paco a few years back. He was coughing hard every few seconds (Fina cough, perhaps?) and looked as if he was very uncomfortable. Did not seem healthy at all (but looked crazy huge  8) )

Seems like a cool guy, hope all is well with him.



fina cough only occurs in the moments post injection.


...maybe, just maybe he had a cold...

Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: arce377 on June 27, 2008, 11:59:59 PM
....
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Croatch on June 28, 2008, 12:42:06 AM
maybe your 'lost in translation' but what you just said and things like that come off as kinda homo.

hope this helps

ps not a baseless attack, you pay 'paco' to be your trainer (known g4p) and you believe that its concievable that he is an animated drawing of 'Venom'.

Time to grow up Peter Pan
First time I ever heard someone called Peter Pan on getbig...haha
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Polartec on June 28, 2008, 03:11:53 AM
fina cough only occurs in the moments post injection.


...maybe, just maybe he had a cold...




The video I saw was shot in his hotel room.

...maybe, just maybe he had just injected...









Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 28, 2008, 05:15:39 AM
First time I ever heard someone called Peter Pan on getbig...haha

Nice! Forever young! 8)
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 28, 2008, 05:16:47 AM

The video I saw was shot in his hotel room.

...maybe, just maybe he had just injected...










Do I ask him if it was? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Bobby on June 28, 2008, 05:59:20 AM
Yes. I think so. This pic is no pump and taken in the morning.
I got bit fat but grew a lot to 200lbs.


u really put on some size there!!
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 28, 2008, 06:03:44 AM
u really put on some size there!!
Its the effect of the maga protein intake and super crazy training made by Paco!
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: no one on June 28, 2008, 06:08:25 AM

The video I saw was shot in his hotel room.

...maybe, just maybe he had just injected...











easy sunshine- don't go getting your thong in a knot.

you'll be ok.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Bobby on June 28, 2008, 06:19:11 AM
Its the effect of the maga protein intake and super crazy training made by Paco!

giant sets? ;D how much protein?
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 28, 2008, 06:26:45 AM
giant sets? ;D how much protein?
No.
Straight sets of almost 3 HOURS! Each sets should be maximum reps to the failure!

Egg white 10

Chicken 700g

Fish 700g

Whey protein 3 scoops

Casein protein 3scoops.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on June 28, 2008, 06:28:53 AM
any more pics of you guys?
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 28, 2008, 06:35:49 AM
any more pics of you guys?
No
Tomorrow I dont see him. Cus his gym is closed on sunday.
Monday I will see him and take more funny pics.
Stay tuned.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Mars on June 28, 2008, 06:37:32 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=221260.0;attach=259242;image)

do you sit on your knees in that pic bro?
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: TrueGrit on June 28, 2008, 06:40:57 AM
No.
Straight sets of almost 3 HOURS! Each sets should be maximum reps to the failure!


 If you truly are natural then you shouldn't be training this way.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 28, 2008, 06:42:40 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=221260.0;attach=259242;image)

do you sit on your knees in that pic bro?
Hehe. I am a mini Kyomu!
Nah, I am bit crouching down of course.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Mars on June 28, 2008, 06:44:04 AM
If you truly are natural then you shouldn't be training this way.

agree, it only makes you go weaker.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 28, 2008, 06:45:24 AM
If you truly are natural then you shouldn't be training this way.
Thats exactly what i thought.

But the point is:If our nutritional condition is sufficient, we have more resistance than we believe.
So to speak,most of the case, we are not overtrained but subalimented.

This is Pacos concept.

Interesting and unique huh?
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Mars on June 28, 2008, 06:48:23 AM
dont you get weaker by training this way Kyomu?
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 28, 2008, 06:49:00 AM
agree, it only makes you go weaker.
Yes.Exactly, those fatigue must be paid sooner or later.

That was today, i hardly couldnt train today and Paco told me that i have to stop and eat double amount of my diet today and tomorrow..

2 weeks ago, I SHOULD go to restaurant instead of keeping on my diet.
And he says, when i go to restaurant, I should eat until i explode.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Mars on June 28, 2008, 06:50:37 AM
haha real healthy ::)
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Tee_rex65 on June 28, 2008, 06:51:05 AM
let me guess...downtown detroit right next to the greek casino
________________________ ________________________ _______

Good ol' Pegasus!  ;)
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 28, 2008, 06:52:11 AM
Always trying to gain the nutritional aspect at first to avoid burning out.
If I am still tired, then i should train less intense.

Thats his theory.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: TrueGrit on June 28, 2008, 06:52:35 AM
Thats exactly what i thought.

But the point is:If our nutritional condition is sufficient, we have more resistance than we believe.
So to speak,most of the case, we are not overtrained but subalimented.

This is Pacos concept.

Interesting and unique huh?

 But Paco will have been using AAS for a long, long time - maybe even as a teen. He probably doesn't have great knowledge of training genetically typical naturals.  Even a lot of pros would shy away from 3 hour workouts with every set to failure. Maybe - and I say only maybe because 3 straight hours of failure sets is not something many 38 yo naturals could handle - you are coping with the workload but that doesn't mean you're training optimally.

 Not trying to rain on your parade as your enthusiasm is great.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 28, 2008, 06:53:17 AM
haha real healthy ::)
You know. Thats BBing ;D
To be extream is always unhealthy.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: dr.chimps on June 28, 2008, 06:55:37 AM
You know. Thats BBing ;D
To be extream is always unhealthy.
"Let's. GET. IT. ON!!!!!!"  :D
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 28, 2008, 06:56:41 AM
But Paco will have been using AAS for a long, long time - maybe even as a teen. He probably doesn't have great knowledge of training genetically typical naturals.  Even a lot of pros would shy away from 3 hour workouts with every set to failure. Maybe - and I say only maybe because 3 straight hours of failure sets is not something many 38 yo naturals could handle - you are coping with the workload but that doesn't mean you're training optimally.

 Not trying to rain on your parade as your enthusiasm is great.
I understand every theorys and they are right.
But, always, the most important thing is the result. As we see getting result, we keep on doing that no matter how stupid it looks like.

For example, i train my delts 3 times a week now. Looks really ridiculous concept.
But my delts grew like crazy. So, what can i say?
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 28, 2008, 06:57:39 AM
"Let's. GET. IT. ON!!!!!!"  :D
Hahahahahhaha. Sergent! 8)
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Bobby on June 28, 2008, 06:58:33 AM
No.
Straight sets of almost 3 HOURS! Each sets should be maximum reps to the failure!

Egg white 10 30g

Chicken 700g 140g

Fish 700g 140g

Whey protein 3 scoops 40g

Casein protein 3scoops. 40g

That looks like it's around 400g protein, the ole 2g/lb rule eh?

When u train for 3hrs (JESUS FUCKING CHRIST that is alot!) which musclegroups do u train? can't do bis and tris for 3hrs surely?
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 28, 2008, 07:04:24 AM
That looks like it's around 400g protein, the ole 2g/lb rule eh?

When u train for 3hrs (JESUS FUCKING CHRIST that is alot!) which musclegroups do u train? can't do bis and tris for 3hrs surely?
Nah. ;D
Each muscle group sets are 16-20.
And always i train 3 muscle groups everyday and 20 min cardio.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Mars on June 28, 2008, 07:08:24 AM
haha if Kyomu doesnt have much time to train but he still goes to the gym for an hour to train heavy he suddenly notices he grows so much he thinks paco did something in his shakes.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 28, 2008, 07:11:11 AM
haha if Kyomu doesnt have much time to train but he still goes to the gym for an hour to train heavy he suddenly notices he grows so much he thinks paco did something in his shakes.
hahahaha! Ok then I try to train 10 mins and still grow! ;D
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 28, 2008, 07:13:19 AM
The thing is, Paco also trains about 2hrs minimum.
And many times this monster does double split.
Damn stamina.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Mars on June 28, 2008, 07:15:01 AM
banana split?
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 28, 2008, 07:15:11 AM
let me guess...downtown detroit right next to the greek casino
________________________ ________________________ _______

Good ol' Pegasus!  ;)
I dont remember that was long long times ago.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 28, 2008, 07:16:11 AM
banana split?
;D
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Mars on June 28, 2008, 07:18:49 AM
Does he really train his legs so hard or is it a genetic thing Kyomu?
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 28, 2008, 07:23:38 AM
Does he really train his legs so hard or is it a genetic thing Kyomu?
I have visited venice ca a couple of times. And I have never seen any pros who train harder than Paco.
Just one thing different from another pro is not lifting a lot of weight. But his form is actualy tooooo strict.

For ex, he dont hardly go more than 200kg on squat.
But, hell, intense.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: affeman on June 28, 2008, 09:55:54 AM
Try to shoot some impressions of Pacos training with your handy- or digicam, Kyomu, would be great.

Or maybe even a "greeting video" for getbig.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 28, 2008, 10:14:18 AM
Try to shoot some impressions of Pacos training with your handy- or digicam, Kyomu, would be great.

Or maybe even a "greeting video" for getbig.
OK.
I "try".

Do you know why?
Unexpectedly Paco is a shy guy and it took bit of time to take this pic too.
And always train with t-shrt and never wear tank top.
So,I was saying"Comon! Its only biceps!".

And after taking pic, he was saying to everybody how this pic is entertain and cool.
And even he was more happy  when i said that this thread is viewed over 2000 already.

Damn funny guy though. ;D
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: affeman on June 28, 2008, 10:19:50 AM
Unexpectedly Paco is a shy guy and it took bit of time to take this pic too.
And always train with t-shrt and never wear tank top.

But he steps on a stage in front of an audience only wearing a posing trunk?? ???
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 28, 2008, 10:38:35 AM
But he steps on a stage in front of an audience only wearing a posing trunk?? ???
Yeah!!! Exactly!
Maybe i guess his body is like a work of art and it should be always VERY good for him.

Maybe a bit not pumped and he consider that he is not good.
In other word, he has very high pride in his body. I think thats the one of the reason why he always present great condition in every contest he enters.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: haider on June 28, 2008, 10:40:04 AM
Yeah!!! Exactly!
Maybe i guess his body is like a work of art and it should be always VERY good for him.

Maybe a bit not pumped and he consider that he is not good.
In other word, he has very high pride in his body. I think thats the one of the reason why he always present great condition in every contest he enters.
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 28, 2008, 10:42:43 AM
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I understand you exactly ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: affy on June 28, 2008, 10:45:59 AM
kyomu's a cool guy

keep it up man...you're lucky to be in the position of doing what you love for three hours a day
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 28, 2008, 10:53:49 AM
kyomu's a cool guy

keep it up man...you're lucky to be in the position of doing what you love for three hours a day
Thanks. I try to keep on delivering interesting infos for my getbig family. Stay tuned.

Hey I hadnt had free time like now for years. But now Actualy I earned it. 8)
(Building a company is very tough. To stabilize my company  like now, it took 5 years.)
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Dreadlord on June 28, 2008, 10:58:27 AM
any more pics of you guys?

by that he means do you have any pics minus clothing. naturalfag83 needs fresh fantasies
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: bmuscle90 on June 28, 2008, 11:01:37 AM
good build kyomu.. I also train natural and been making good gains.  I know many naturals who can lift heavy and have big builds.  Dont need to waste money and time to end up with a fat gut and bloated body.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 28, 2008, 11:32:14 AM
good build kyomu.. I also train natural and been making good gains.  I know many naturals who can lift heavy and have big builds.  Dont need to waste money and time to end up with a fat gut and bloated body.
Thanx.
Every people has their quest. Mines and yours is building natural body. Another are not. Thats it.
Just a different point of view.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: musclehedz on June 28, 2008, 11:40:02 AM
good build kyomu.. I also train natural and been making good gains.  I know many naturals who can lift heavy and have big builds.  Dont need to waste money and time to end up with a fat gut and bloated body.

 ::)

Never heard of anti-estrogens and a diet?
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Monster_Everything on June 28, 2008, 11:41:52 AM
hahahaha I challenge Kmyou to a contest, loser leaves getbig ....FOREVER
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 28, 2008, 11:45:25 AM
hahahaha I challenge Kmyou to a contest, loser leaves getbig ....FOREVER
Still stalking me and baseless attacking?
Remember I warn you. This is the last time.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Monster_Everything on June 28, 2008, 11:51:46 AM
Still stalking me and baseless attacking?
Remember I warn you. This is the last time.
::)
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 28, 2008, 12:03:30 PM
::)
And OK. Bit Mercy for you.
I tell you how you take me wrong.

I dont totaly care if somebody call me a loser.
Cus I consider myself a big loser and big winner at the same time.
I was dead last at 3 contests total. I lost 200000$ in the business prior to this. I did numerous stupid things in my life and I will keep on doing it.
But Also I made many people happy and acomplish many things in my life.
Just overall, winning and losing come to us alternatively like rain and sunshine.
If you live longer, finaly you dont care if you are loser or not.
Here just i want to have fun with everybody including you.
I hope one day,you will realize my word and dont care about if you are winner or loser anymore.

So nobody win or lose in this world. Even a world amateur bbing overall champ(Paco) feels shit about the contest result.
Finaly, the only judge is you.
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: bigdarksnake on June 28, 2008, 12:16:25 PM
Hey Kyomu thanks for the constant updates, and sharing what you are learning from paco. Does paco go to any forums, or he's not really an internet person? Also what business do you run? What field, fitness/bodybuilding?   Also have you gained any size on arms doing the long routines?
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: Monster_Everything on June 28, 2008, 12:16:48 PM
And OK. Bit Mercy for you.
I tell you how you take me wrong.

I dont totaly care if somebody call me a loser.
Cus I consider myself a big loser and big winner at the same time.
I was dead last at 3 contests total. I lost 200000$ in the business prior to this. I did numerous stupid things in my life and I will keep on doing it.
But Also I made many people happy and acomplish many things in my life.
Just overall, winning and losing come to us alternatively like rain and sunshine.
If you live longer, finaly you dont care if you are loser or not.
Here just i want to have fun with everybody including you.
I hope one day,you will realize my word and dont care about if you are winner or loser anymore.

So nobody win or lose in this world. Even a world amateur bbing overall champ(Paco) feels shit about the contest result.
Finaly, the only judge is you.
hahah meltdown ....

there are two kinds of men in this world, those who run shit and those who eat shit ...


oh yeah here is what i look like now ..... hahahah

:)
Title: Re: Today, Paco 22.4 inchs shredded guns booooooooom!
Post by: kyomu on June 28, 2008, 12:29:25 PM
Hey Kyomu thanks for the constant updates, and sharing what you are learning from paco. Does paco go to any forums, or he's not really an internet person? Also what business do you run? What field, fitness/bodybuilding?   Also have you gained any size on arms doing the long routines?
Now I shove him a lot to work more in internet. Just he looks like clomsy person.
He will build new page. So stay tune. Just he is not a fluent english speaker.
My business is producing those rice cakes for Japanese restaurants of all over the Spain and portugal.
So fitness and bbing are totaly my hobby.
Yes, I gained my arms also with these crazy 16 sets each(Bi &Tri).
But above all, my delts are most mysterias body parts.
He makes me train 3 times a week and start to grow.

What i learn from this: Always we have to be free from the common sence and theory. No neglecting them but just no need to persist in.