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discuss.
I think so
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perfect food.
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Quinoa is the perfect food
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In the morning for me...
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correct perfect food, for bbuiulders, powerlifters and anyone who trains.
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Ok. WHY do you think so, as opposed to blueberries, or potatoes, or pancakes, or blueberry pancakes with hashbrowns, 4 scrambled eggs, and a linconshire sausage?
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yellow is a nicer colour than blue. i actually eat them when they are quite green though
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yellow is a nicer colour than blue. i actually eat them when they are quite green though
I like yellow ones, ripe, they are much more tasty! :)
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So it's about colour is it? Sounds a little "fruitist" to me.
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sometimes they are too soft and mushy or something.
I like cool slightly green ones. fyffe bananas are so nice its unreal
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the legendary GH15 swears by them
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banana and a chocolate milk was considered the perfect postworkout snack, in the old Robert kennedy books.
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sometimes they are too soft and mushy or something.
I like cool slightly green ones. fyffe bananas are so nice its unreal
I heard a "guy" like you doesn't even need to bite one to finish it off. hahaha oh brother
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Best carb you can put in a post workout shake. Use a zero carb protein and blend in a banana. MMMmmmmmmm....
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discuss.
I think so
good for boosting up ur calories if u eat one with every meal
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High in potassium
I prefer watermelon
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hahaha
yeah okay sure
keep eating your banana's
nutritionally ignorant motha fucka
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hahaha
yeah okay sure
keep eating your banana's
nutritionally ignorant motha fucka
brilliant argument ::)
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I love the new positive vibe!
Now every thread is fitness industry related!
Fuck yeah, baby! Getbig number 1!!!!
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nutritionally ignorant guy.
and what do yoiu eat and the reasoning for it.
Our lives dont revolve around bodybuilding and hell if i want chocolate ill eat it. What i want ill eat. I dont care if i am always in a highly charged anobolic state or whatever shit you spiel.
Tastes good gives me energy...i eat it.
wankthedog
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I ran out of bananas this morning and had an apple instead, before doing intervals on the track.
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nutritionally ignorant ####.
and what do yoiu eat and the reasoning for it.
Our lives dont revolve around bodybuilding and hell if i want chocolate ill eat it. What i want ill eat. I dont care if i am always in a highly charged anobolic state or whatever shit you spiel.
Tastes good gives me energy...i eat it.
wankthedog
you tried saying banas are the best food to eat post workout. your mad because i said your wrong
what the fuck do i care if you eat a banana?
i dont care
eat your bananas !
they taste awesome
but when you say "they are the ideal post workout food
thats wrong
and i will correct you; cuz thats what i do
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Goudy is a beast , your just a tiny tit....so im going to listen to Goudy, not the tit...
hope this helps
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i always try to have 3 before i train so i feel full but not bloated and have energy
and what is teh best and why charles glass?
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you tried saying banas are the best food to eat post workout. your mad because i said your wrong
but when you say "they are the ideal post workout food
thats wrong
and i will correct you; cuz thats what i do
GH15 said exactly the same thing. Best pwo carb according to hum. Usually your Matt Damon's ugly, retard brother ass is swinging from his nuts.
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Goudy is a beast , your just a tiny tit....so im going to listen to Goudy, not the tit...
hope this helps
says the 170 lb skinny fat :P
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Goudy is a beast , your just a tiny tit....so im going to listen to Goudy, not the tit...
hope this helps
Ty for kind owrds very flattering. I am no means the biggest, best or expert at all. Tho i have experience
seriously try it though its great energy and easy on stomach.
Then again according to candyman i have looked the same in 4 years ::)
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discuss.
I think so
they're excellent to eat both pre and post workout.
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they're excellent to eat both pre and post workout.
wise man. you will go far in life
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says the 170 lb skinny fat :P
hahhah ai shit on you with ease, how are your roids wokring out mister guru hahha
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hahhah ai shit on you with ease, how are your roids wokring out mister guru hahha
you carry about as much muscle as i did after one year of lifting, pal
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you carry about as much muscle as i did after one year of lifting, pal
post pics
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enough with the bickering for a moment. but could someone explain why bananas seem to be such the rage all of a sudden? whats the huge advantage?
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enough with the bickering for a moment. but could someone explain why bananas seem to be such the rage all of a sudden? whats the huge advantage?
banas are a horrible choice of food if your looking at it from a bodybuilding stand point.
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you carry about as much muscle as i did after one year of lifting, pal
hahah yeah ok..... the only thing carry anything heavy was that bike with your fat ass on it... carry on bitch
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you carry about as much muscle as i did after one year of lifting, pal
dude get real, Goudy has as much muscle on his arms as you do on your legs and he's natural and you're juiced to the tits.
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banas are a horrible choice of food if your looking at it from a bodybuilding stand point.
answer the fucking question: why do pros like GH15 advocate their use and swaer by them.
stop dodging it you cowardly pimplehead. what gives you more knowledge than the likes of gh15 or bob?
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hahah yeah ok..... the only thing carry anything heavy was that bike with your fat ass on it... carry on bitch
haha.. ive posted pictures before.. after ONE YEAR lifting (naturally of course) i carried as much if not more muscle than what your showing in those pictures there...
maybe you should try some whey protein or something ?
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answer the fucking question: why do pros like GH15 advocate their use and swaer by them.
stop dodging it you cowardly pimplehead. what gives you more knowledge than the likes of gh15 or bob?
he advocates it because it tastes good and its fat free, i imagine.
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banas are a horrible choice of food if your looking at it from a bodybuilding stand point.
why is it that Dave Pulcinella believes in them and they're one of his 7 foods that work?
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haha.. ive posted pictures before.. after ONE YEAR lifting (naturally of course) i carried as much if not more muscle than what your showing in those pictures there...
maybe you should try some whey protein or something ?
you reckon?
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why is it that Dave Pulcinella believes in them and they're one of his 7 foods that work?
dave pulcinella thinks that cutting out fish oil makes him ripped ;D
haha
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you reckon?
hahahha this tit of tits can never be taken seriously can he..
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you reckon?
3 months lifting..
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dave pulcinella thinks that cutting out fish oil makes him ripped ;D
haha
i doubt you'd find one extremely ripped competitor besides Palumbo who loads up on ANY kind of fat pre contest.
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hahahha this tit of tits can never be taken seriously can he..
compare that to me after 3 motnhs.. :P
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buy another shirt hahahha
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3 months lifting..
still very fat canty eally see much.
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i doubt you'd find one extremely ripped competitor besides Palumbo who loads up on ANY kind of fat pre contest.
so you agree with pulcinella and you think removing fish oil is going to help you get ripped ? ..... :-\
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still very fat canty eally see much.
for real, mistakin fat for muscle again .... wat do you look like now dizzle ?
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so you agree with pulcinella and you think removing fish oil is going to help you get ripped ? ..... :-\
the results speak for themselves, the man is SHREDDED.
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funny how you a discussion about banas turns into " yeah, candidizzle, but you were fat once !! "
haha
banana is not bodybuilding food. end of thread.
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funny how you a discussion about banas turns into " yeah, candidizzle, but you were fat once !! "
haha
banana is not bodybuilding food. end of thread.
and what is.
brocolli, brown rice, tuna and turkey?
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anything with protein and good qualty carbs is "bodybuilding" food. ::)
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and what is.
brocolli, brown rice, tuna and turkey?
i would give you advice if you seriously wanted my opinion and ithought you might follow what i said
but i know yoru hard headed, you think you know everything, and that even with a good explanation as to why bananas are a poor choice (any fruit for that matter)..you would still eat it.
fine
i really dont care wat you eat bro
the only time you would ever eat fruit as a body builder is if you got super intensely accurate with your diet and you know exactly how to diet and you incorporated some fructose into a carb cycling diet... but that is getting super techinical and im sure this kind of thing is far above the basics most of you still need to learn....
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anything with protein and good qualty carbs is "bodybuilding" food. ::)
you consider fruit a good quality carb ? :D
see, you guys dont know jack shit
this is aparent to myself and anyone else who knows even the slightest amount of the basics...
so me arguing with you is quite pointless because to those wh matter, my argument is already won
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you are the only one arguing your point.
me thinks he doth protest too much
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you consider fruit a good quality carb ? :D
see, you guys dont know jack shit
this is aparent to myself and anyone else who knows even the slightest amount of the basics...
so me arguing with you is quite pointless because to those wh matter, my argument is already won
do a poll, ask a bunch of pros if they eat fruit offseason and i'll gaurantee you that 95 percent of them say yes.
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i would give you advice if you seriously wanted my opinion and ithought you might follow what i said
but i know yoru hard headed, you think you know everything, and that even with a good explanation as to why bananas are a poor choice (any fruit for that matter)..you would still eat it.
fine
i really dont care wat you eat bro
the only time you would ever eat fruit as a body builder is if you got super intensely accurate with your diet and you know exactly how to diet and you incorporated some fructose into a carb cycling diet... but that is getting super techinical and im sure this kind of thing is far above the basics most of you still need to learn....
I think you are making things way too complicated.
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you consider fruit a good quality carb ? :D
see, you guys dont know jack shit
this is aparent to myself and anyone else who knows even the slightest amount of the basics...
so me arguing with you is quite pointless because to those wh matter, my argument is already won
I got the leanest I have ever gotten eating a fruit salad made with bananas, strawberries, and avocado every day for breakfast right up until two days before my competition. :)
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you are the only one arguing your point.
me thinks he doth protest too much
okay goudy
what kind of carbohydrate does skeletal muscle utilize as glycogen?
how does fructose effect insulin levels?
whats the glycogen threshhold for the average male liver?
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I got the leanest I have ever gotten eating a fruit salad made with bananas, strawberries, and avocado every day for breakfast right up until two days before my competition. :)
you'll never convince "candy" of that though Lori, even though you've proven it in the real world he reads a book and thinks he has all the knowledge in the world. ::)
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okay goudy
what kind of carbohydrate does skeletal muscle utilize as glycogen?
how does fructose effect insulin levels?
whats the glycogen threshhold for the average male liver?
why does a brown cow give white milk if it only eats green grass?
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okay goudy
what kind of carbohydrate does skeletal muscle utilize as glycogen?
how does fructose effect insulin levels?
whats the glycogen threshhold for the average male liver?
i've got a few better questions for you: what nutrition protocol can get someone a respectable physique naturally?
oh wait, you have no idea about THAT.
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I got the leanest I have ever gotten eating a fruit salad made with bananas, strawberries, and avocado every day for breakfast right up until two days before my competition. :)
i know a guy who ate green apples at nigth before bed while contest dieting and he got super ripped as well
jay cutler eats between 700-1k carbs every day pre contest
mesmorph is natural and eats kfc and junk every day and is ripped
whats your point rip
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you'll never convince "candy" of that though Lori, even though you've proven it in the real world he reads a book and thinks he has all the knowledge in the world. ::)
EXACTLY!
he is trying to life theoretically
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i've got a few better questions for you: what nutrition protocol can get someone a respectable physique naturally?
oh wait, you have no idea about THAT.
ummm i am pretty sure i have personally made huge transformations to the human body naturall and on my own without help from any body else
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i know a guy who ate green apples at nigth before bed while contest dieting and he got super ripped as well
jay cutler eats between 700-1k carbs every day pre contest
mesmorph is natural and eats kfc and junk every day and is ripped
whats your point rip
My point is that there isn't really anything wrong with eating fruit if the rest of your diet is in check. :)
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Postworkout is a little bit of choco-powder and 20g of chocolate with roasted nuts for me.
p.s.: Magoo - big thx for your tips
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My point is that there isn't really anything wrong with eating fruit if the rest of your diet is in check. :)
theres nothing wrong with eating ANYTHING in moderation if the rest of your diet is in check
:)
goudy said banas are perfect food for post workout. which is wrong. so i corrected him.
im not "anti banana"
i love bananas ! :D
but from a nutritional stand point fruits are natures dessert and they are designed to put fat on your body
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ummm i am pretty sure i have personally made huge transformations to the human body naturall and on my own without help from any body else
You made good gains as its not ahrd to improve from zero
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I want a fruit salad with bananas, strawberries, and avocados NOW. >:(
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You made good gains as its not ahrd to improve from zero
i guess its hard to improve from where your at, considering youve looked the same for 5 years now.. :D
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I want a fruit salad with bananas, strawberries, and avocados NOW. >:(
have one, pulling 300 pounds off the floor weighing 129 you deserve it.
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2005.
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I want a fruit salad with bananas, strawberries, and avocados NOW. >:(
Rip, get in the kitchen.
Nobody cares about my abilities to decipher gh15's posts. Ananas = pineapple!!!
Pineapples allegedly aid in digestion of proteins, hence whey many of the old schoolers (e.g. Rheo Blair and particularly Vince Gironda) used to advise their "clients" to eat pineapple with steak for a pre-contest workout.
Also, they would have their clients take digestive enzymes with high protein meals.
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gh15 recommends bananas postworkout. he had a big argument with some dude about how they were better than wazy maize
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he hasnt read the smae books candi has obviously or he would be saying otherwise ::)
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gh15 recommends bananas postworkout. he had a big argument with some dude about how they were better than wazy maize
gh15 knows hormones
gh15 doesnt know diet
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nobody knows as much as the teenage boy who failed school so he could get a job counting reps and putting the odd socks in a pile in the changing room.
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nobody knows as much as the teenage boy who failed school so he could get a job counting reps and putting the odd socks in a pile in the changing room.
i graduated high school and i dotn count anybodys reps or do any kind of maintanence services :)
anyways, i see zero arguments as to why anywould would ever eat a banana besides its taste
quite a silly thing to be discussin anyways
and quite silly for about a dozen or so people to all be obsessive about keeping this thread going because all they can think about is "candidizzle".. ::) haha..if i dont know anything and i look like garbage and you hate me so much how come im all you fuckerz talk about ?
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gh15 knows hormones
gh15 doesnt know diet
Yeah, like you know anything about dieting:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=29547.0;attach=26493;image)
Boooooom!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yeah, like you know anything about dieting:
:D
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i graduated high school and i dotn count anybodys reps or do any kind of maintanence services :)
anyways, i see zero arguments as to why anywould would ever eat a banana besides its taste
quite a silly thing to be discussin anyways
and quite silly for about a dozen or so people to all be obsessive about keeping this thread going because all they can think about is "candidizzle".. ::) haha..if i dont know anything and i look like garbage and you hate me so much how come im all you fuckerz talk about ?
You were probaly morbidly obese. You stopped eating lard and lost weight. Well done though you should have never bene that fat ever. Most of your loss was due to not being a fat pig. Not your groundbreaking nutritional vast vault of knowledge.
The body can adapt. The body can eat lots of different food.
Now i am being genuine what do you recommend pre workout as a food?
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Now i am being genuine what do you recommend pre workout as a food?
an horu and a half pre workout eat some complex carbs and some low fat meat
20 mins prior to lifting drink a scoop of whey with non fat milk
post workout dirnk another scoop whey with non fat milk
as soon as you get home have some low fat meat and low fat complex carbs
heres what ill eat
10 ounces lean ground beef with broccoli + 1 cup oatmeal (cinnaqmon splenda and non fat milk )
then whey plus non fat milk
then whey plus non fat milk
then 2 chicken breasts with one cup of oatmeals and a half scoop whey mixed into the oatmeal
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Im with candcumdrizzle on the banana thing, but i seriously dont think it matters what or how much you eat post workout.
Have a scoop of whey like 45 min prior to training so you have some aminos in the blood to spare muscle tissue with some carbs for energy and you're good to go.
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Im with candcumdrizzle on the banana thing, but i seriously dont think it matters what or how much you eat post workout.
Have a scoop of whey like 45 min prior to training so you have some aminos in the blood to spare muscle tissue with some carbs for energy and you're good to go.
despit the insulting twist on my name
i agree broseph
i always say whey pre workout, but very few do this
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You were probaly morbidly obese. You stopped eating lard and lost weight. Well done though you should have never bene that fat ever. Most of your loss was due to not being a fat pig. Not your groundbreaking nutritional vast vault of knowledge.
The body can adapt. The body can eat lots of different food.
Now i am being genuine what do you recommend pre workout as a food?
slammed.
somehow candi hasn't realized that the entirety of his accomplishments can be distilled to "not eating like a retard" and "doing anything in the weight room". he's done nothing superlative that would support the massive amount of arrogance and know-it-all attitude. cheers for the progress, jeers for the self-described expert status.
by the by goudy, you look great there. and it still baffles me that your bench is that high since your arms are so ridiculously long.
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slammed.
somehow candi hasn't realized that the entirety of his accomplishments can be distilled to "not eating like a retard" and "doing anything in the weight room". he's done nothing superlative that would support the massive amount of arrogance and know-it-all attitude. cheers for the progress, jeers for the self-described expert status.
by the by goudy, you look great there. and it still baffles me that your bench is that high since your arms are so ridiculously long.
thansk dude i have big shoulders and triceps if i didnt id bench about 300max lol
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nobody knows as much as the teenage boy who failed school so he could get a job counting reps and putting the odd socks in a pile in the changing room.
Brutal ownage of candyman all over this thread.
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an horu and a half pre workout eat some complex carbs and some low fat meat
20 mins prior to lifting drink a scoop of whey with non fat milk
post workout dirnk another scoop whey with non fat milk
as soon as you get home have some low fat meat and low fat complex carbs
heres what ill eat
10 ounces lean ground beef with broccoli + 1 cup oatmeal (cinnaqmon splenda and non fat milk )
then whey plus non fat milk
then whey plus non fat milk
then 2 chicken breasts with one cup of oatmeals and a half scoop whey mixed into the oatmeal
Agree that 3 bannanas sucks anytime, but milk dude? Thats probally worse IMO
I never eat carbs before i train, protien and good fats.
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gayer than eating chocolate bananas and licking it first
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theres nothing wrong with eating ANYTHING in moderation if the rest of your diet is in check
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goudy said banas are perfect food for post workout. which is wrong. so i corrected him.
im not "anti banana"
i love bananas ! :D
but from a nutritional stand point fruits are natures dessert and they are designed to put fat on your body
Makes no sense, unless they are part of a diet that it strongly calorie surplus-oriented -ie. fruits have no fat.
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Agree that 3 bannanas sucks anytime, but milk dude? Thats probally worse IMO
I never eat carbs before i train, protien and good fats.
non fat milk
do some research.. non fat milk has been provento reduce fat mass, although the mechanism of action is still unclear.
non fat milk is simply slow digesting sugars with 80% casien protein and 20% whey protein.
thats awesome.
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Makes no sense, unless they are part of a diet that it strongly calorie surplus-oriented -ie. fruits have no fat.
and?
fruist are majority fructose. fructose can only be utlized by the liver. if you eat fructose when your liver is full of glycogen, or if you eat more than your liver can hold, the rest goes immidietly to adipose.
the liver is very small and only holds a very smal amount of glycogen.
even in a caloric deficit, a small amount of fructose when the liver is full will add to adipose.
:o
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non fat milk
do some research.. non fat milk has been provento reduce fat mass, although the mechanism of action is still unclear.
non fat milk is simply slow digesting sugars with 80% casien protein and 20% whey protein.
thats awesome.
Done plenty of research sounds like your is from the dairy industry. Milk = sugar, dont see how you come up with slow acting. bloat city.
But keep drinking lots of it ;D
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can u post outline of ur trianing candi
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Done plenty of research sounds like your is from the dairy industry. Milk = sugar, dont see how you come up with slow acting. bloat city.
But keep drinking lots of it ;D
milk has "sugar". so does broccoli. :D
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non fat milk
do some research.. non fat milk has been provento reduce fat mass, although the mechanism of action is still unclear.
non fat milk is simply slow digesting sugars with 80% casien protein and 20% whey protein.
thats awesome.
how do you figure milk has slow digesting sugars but bananas do not?
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can u post outline of ur trianing candi
i know you are being sracastic but ill post it anyway just because i got nothing else to do
chest
legs
off
back
shoulders traps
arms
off
repeat
high volume and high intensity.. lots of drop sets and forced negatives.. i do heavy weight low reps and alos do moderate weight high reps.. workouts are nomrally around an hour.. i do 30 mins treadmill walking post exercise..
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i know you are being sracastic but ill post it anyway just because i got nothing else to do
chest
legs
off
back
shoulders traps
arms
off
repeat
high volume and high intensity.. lots of drop sets and forced negatives.. i do heavy weight low reps and alos do moderate weight high reps.. workouts are nomrally around an hour.. i do 30 mins treadmill walking post exercise..
no i wanted to know 2 see if u over complicate ur training. ie is it too tricky what way do u progress?
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how do you figure milk has slow digesting sugars but bananas do not?
i didnt say bananas didnt digest slowly
i just said itsm mostly (well about half) fructose
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no i wanted to know 2 see if u over complicate ur training. ie is it too tricky what way do u progress?
i dont over complicate anything.
if i want to eat a banana i will eat a banana ! LOL..
i dont keep a workout olog or anything like that and i dont track my strength i just make sure to workout till the muscle is fried every time. i like to keep most of my sets to failure in the 6-12 rep range... but sometimes ill do that then drop the weight and hit failure at like 6 then drop the weight hit failure again.. ect.. i also do forced negatives aot, since i think eccentric is where you grow and concentrentic is wher eyou get strong
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i didnt say bananas didnt digest slowly
i just said itsm mostly (well about half) fructose
Food Item:Banana, raw
Food Quantity: 1 banana
Carbs: 26.9g
Dietary Fiber: 3g
Net Carbs: 23.9g
fiber to carb ratio similar to OATMEAL
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i dont over complicate anything.
if i want to eat a banana i will eat a banana ! LOL..
i dont keep a workout olog or anything like that and i dont track my strength i just make sure to workout till the muscle is fried every time. i like to keep most of my sets to failure in the 6-12 rep range... but sometimes ill do that then drop the weight and hit failure at like 6 then drop the weight hit failure again.. ect.. i also do forced negatives aot, since i think eccentric is where you grow and concentrentic is wher eyou get strong
training to failure is trianing to fail
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Food Item:Banana, raw
Food Quantity: 1 banana
Carbs: 26.9g
Dietary Fiber: 3g
Net Carbs: 23.9g
fiber to carb ratio similar to OATMEAL
yup, good thinking on the fiber to carb ratio... i do the same thing...
but oatmeal is GLUCOSE, banana is FRUCTOSE
BIG difference
i never mentioned how fast bananas digest, that wasnt the discussioon
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yup, good thinking on the fiber to carb ratio... i do the same thing...
but oatmeal is GLUCOSE, banana is FRUCTOSE
BIG difference
i never mentioned how fast bananas digest, that wasnt the discussioon
what is the big difference between fructose and glucose?
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what is the big difference between fructose and glucose?
a number of things
main one being that the entire body(including the liver) can utlizie glucose for energy; while fructose can only be utilized by the liver, which is very small and spills over very easily. even in a "caloric defecit" asurplus of fructose contributes to adipose.
there are also differences in of that fructose does not stimulate leptin, or insulin at all.
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what is the big difference between fructose and glucose?
absorption
I'm sure Candy can explain it
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a number of things
main one being that the entire body(including the liver) can utlizie glucose for energy; while fructose can only be utilized by the liver, which is very small and spills over very easily. even in a "caloric defecit" asurplus of fructose contributes to adipose.
there are also differences in of that fructose does not stimulate leptin, or insulin at all.
nice post...spot on as usual
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nice post...spot on as usual
gracias :)
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and?
fruist are majority fructose. fructose can only be utlized by the liver. if you eat fructose when your liver is full of glycogen, or if you eat more than your liver can hold, the rest goes immidietly to adipose.
the liver is very small and only holds a very smal amount of glycogen.
even in a caloric deficit, a small amount of fructose when the liver is full will add to adipose.
:o
Hmm. A full liver in a calorie deficit environment!? Well, in the real world, if you're on a calorie deficit diet, there is zero chance of putting on fat by eating fruit. Probably get diarrhea before that happens.
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Hmm. A full liver in a calorie deficit environment!? Well, in the real world, if you're on a calorie deficit diet, there is zero chance of putting on fat by eating fruit. Probably get diarrhea before that happens.
sure. you might have depleted liver, most people do when dieting. but lets say you eat that first banana. BOOM. liver is now full. eat another one? FAT STOREAGE ;) ..yes, even if you have eaten less calories than youve burned that day... "a calorie isnt always a calorie" as i like to say :D
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sure. you might have depleted liver, most people do when dieting. but lets say you eat that first banana. BOOM. liver is now full. eat another one? FAT STOREAGE ;) ..yes, even if you have eaten less calories than youve burned that day... "a calorie isnt always a calorie" as i like to say :D
I'll agree with this adage of yours, but what you're talking is more likely to happen with a soda rather than fruit (and yeah, I understand the different sugars/carbs). As for bananas, you're more likely to get full first before any weight gain by fat. Fruit on a diet will not add fat weight. You're kinda setting up a strawman to make a point, here.
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I'll agree with this adage of yours, but what you're talking is more likely to happen with a soda rather than fruit (and yeah, I understand the different sugars/carbs). As for bananas, you're more likely to get full first before any weight gain by fat. Fruit on a diet will not add fat weight. You're kinda setting up a strawman to make a point, here.
youll get full from fruit?
did you not read that fructose does not stimulate leptin?
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youll get full from fruit?
did you not read that fructose does not stimulate leptin?
Hmm. Read my post again, and then go and eat six nanas in succession - you will get full. Eat the same amount of green grapes, say, and you're likely to get diarrhea. But these are just silly parameters. If you have a good diet, don't for a second think that you're gonna get fat from eating fruit. It'll be your cheeseburger, fries or soda - but you already know this. Stop worrying about the details, my friend, and take care of the large stuff. Micromanaging shit will always f*ck you up. :)
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youll get full from fruit?
did you not read that fructose does not stimulate leptin?
All this shit is great, but can you prove your claims with results from your own physique? I think someone said you where on the sauce, so is it the sauce, or all this information you read on the web?
The way you speak, reminds me of the person who knows every angle when it comes to training methods, but looks no better than a person who sticks to the basics, and trains hard. I'm not knocking you -( you are doing great), but I would like to see the results from all this information.
I used to work with a national level competitor, who gave me all kinda of nutritional advice, ratios and programs.... I don't see any difference at all sticking to my caloric needs, eating sensible foods, and training the same way.
Before, I was eating calories at certain times, eating only certain types of carbs and spazing out about every type of calorie I took in....... I don't see much difference at all in my gains these days, and all I'm doing is keeping it simple. If I followed a diet you wrote, how much better would my physique be, 20% - 30%?
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bluto had a great bannana thread
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i know you are being sracastic but ill post it anyway just because i got nothing else to do
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high volume and high intensity.. lots of drop sets and forced negatives.. i do heavy weight low reps and alos do moderate weight high reps.. workouts are nomrally around an hour.. i do 30 mins treadmill walking post exercise..
just wondering..do you have your PWO shake after you lift and then do the 30 mins on the treadmill
or do you train and go straight to the treadmill
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just wondering..do you have your PWO shake after you lift and then do the 30 mins on the treadmill
or do you train and go straight to the treadmill
straight to the treadmill.
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Hmm. Read my post again, and then go and eat six nanas in succession - you will get full. Eat the same amount of green grapes, say, and you're likely to get diarrhea. But these are just silly parameters. If you have a good diet, don't for a second think that you're gonna get fat from eating fruit. It'll be your cheeseburger, fries or soda - but you already know this. Stop worrying about the details, my friend, and take care of the large stuff. Micromanaging shit will always f*ck you up. :)
very good post.
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If I followed a diet you wrote, how much better would my physique be, 20% - 30%?
it depends on what your eating alread, but since you see to know the basics, probably eat about the right amount of calories, probably eat enough protein, probably get enough complex carbs, and probably train hard..... nothing i do would make a BIG difference bro.
some people call it "micro managing"... but this stuff interests me so its what i like to learn about
i guess maybe it seems like i am a dan duchaine type who knows al this stuff but trains and eats like a pussy? no i assure you i train as hard as i can and i eat plenty of calories carbs proteins to grow
one thing i could offer you though that might make a difference is just supplemental efa's...those, like fish oil, can make a huge difference in your physique if you mega dose them for short periods..
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Hmm. Read my post again, and then go and eat six nanas in succession - you will get full. Eat the same amount of green grapes, say, and you're likely to get diarrhea. But these are just silly parameters. If you have a good diet, don't for a second think that you're gonna get fat from eating fruit. It'll be your cheeseburger, fries or soda - but you already know this. Stop worrying about the details, my friend, and take care of the large stuff. Micromanaging shit will always f*ck you up. :)
the only thing i will say is that i would not get full from any amount of anything. ;D
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correct dr chimps.
its like ppl who freak if they cant do heir cable crossovers.
stick to bread and butter of everything and u will go far
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Hmm. Read my post again, and then go and eat six nanas in succession - you will get full. Eat the same amount of green grapes, say, and you're likely to get diarrhea. But these are just silly parameters. If you have a good diet, don't for a second think that you're gonna get fat from eating fruit. It'll be your cheeseburger, fries or soda - but you already know this. Stop worrying about the details, my friend, and take care of the large stuff. Micromanaging shit will always f*ck you up. :)
Candyman went from rehab to ocd wannabe bb. He will prove us all wrong when he wins the Olympia. ::)
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it depends on what your eating alread, but since you see to know the basics, probably eat about the right amount of calories, probably eat enough protein, probably get enough complex carbs, and probably train hard..... nothing i do would make a BIG difference bro.
some people call it "micro managing"... but this stuff interests me so its what i like to learn about
i guess maybe it seems like i am a dan duchaine type who knows al this stuff but trains and eats like a pussy? no i assure you i train as hard as i can and i eat plenty of calories carbs proteins to grow
one thing i could offer you though that might make a difference is just supplemental efa's...those, like fish oil, can make a huge difference in your physique if you mega dose them for short periods..
i agree in part on the EFA's and fish oil being important but micro managing different ratios of all this shit probably makes .00000000001 percent difference.
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isnt that what i said?
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i agree in part on the EFA's and fish oil being important but micro managing different ratios of all this shit probably makes .00000000001 percent difference.
and thats being generous
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isnt that what i said?
then why worry about it?
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the only thing i will say is that i would not get full from any amount of anything. ;D
I assume that includes cock? Pretty brave statement. :D
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then why worry about it?
then why say anything? :D
this whole thread is only because i told goudy that he was incorrect when he posted "3 bananas" in a thread entitled " post your perfect post workout meal"
and he was totally incorrect
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then why say anything? :D
this whole thread is only because i told goudy that he was incorrect when he posted "3 bananas" in a thread entitled " post your perfect post workout meal"
and he was totally incorrect
the bananas are as good a PWO meal as anything else, maybe throw some egg whites or whey in there with them and you're good to go.
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it depends on what your eating alread, but since you see to know the basics, probably eat about the right amount of calories, probably eat enough protein, probably get enough complex carbs, and probably train hard..... nothing i do would make a BIG difference bro.
some people call it "micro managing"... but this stuff interests me so its what i like to learn about
i guess maybe it seems like i am a dan duchaine type who knows al this stuff but trains and eats like a pussy? no i assure you i train as hard as i can and i eat plenty of calories carbs proteins to grow
one thing i could offer you though that might make a difference is just supplemental efa's...those, like fish oil, can make a huge difference in your physique if you mega dose them for short periods..
I'm not knocking you, or trying to put you down..... I really want to know if your information would make a difference. I am currently taking 3 tabs fish oil per day, and also the omega I get from a natural peanut butter. I need more?
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the bananas are as good a PWO meal as anything else, maybe throw some egg whites or whey in there with them and you're good to go.
re read the thread dude, fructose is useless post workout theres absolutely no legit reason to ever consume fructose..
WELL, okay thats wrong, IF YOUR GOING TO SERIOUSLY SUPER MICROMANAGE your diet...then there is a protocol during a carb cyclign diet that requires small precise amounts of fructose spread evenly thorughout the day..... but i wont even begin to start on that because that would seriousl fly way over your head if you cant even graps the difference between ccarbs from oatmeal and carbs from banana
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then why say anything? :D
this whole thread is only because i told goudy that he was incorrect when he posted "3 bananas" in a thread entitled " post your perfect post workout meal"
and he was totally incorrect
for me perfect tons of carbs. i disagree with you fat boy
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re read the thread dude, fructose is useless post workout theres absolutely no legit reason to ever consume fructose..
WELL, okay thats wrong, IF YOUR GOING TO SERIOUSLY SUPER MICROMANAGE your diet...then there is a protocol during a carb cyclign diet that requires small precise amounts of fructose spread evenly thorughout the day..... but i wont even begin to start on that because that would seriousl fly way over your head if you cant even graps the difference between ccarbs from oatmeal and carbs from banana
i didn't say there wasn't a difference between carbs from fruit and carbs from oatmeal, i said the simple carbs and potassium in the bananas is probably better PWO.
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I'm not knocking you, or trying to put you down..... I really want to know if your information would make a difference. I am currently taking 3 tabs fish oil per day, and also the omega I get from a natural peanut butter. I need more?
need? no. 3 caps a day should eliminate any risk of DEFECIENCY. but you can definitely see some awesome results form mega dosing fish oil. charles poliquin is a advocate of short term intakes of 40 grams per day or more. the reason being that fish oil increases insulin sensitivity, boosts metabolism, boosts protein synthesis, and at such high doses makes lipogensis very unlikely unless your consuming a huge amount of calories.
i dont really support EXTRA fats in the diet besides whats in your protein, whats in your meat, and then of course supplemental efa's (i prefer fish oil and evening primrose oil in a ratio of 2=1)
try taking 3 caps with every meal to start
avoid fish oil post workout for about an hour though
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when u gonna back up what u preach
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post a pic
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i didn't say there wasn't a difference between carbs from fruit and carbs from oatmeal, i said the simple carbs and potassium in the bananas is probably better PWO.
your better off with SODIUM than potassium to be honest :D banana isnt simple carbs either, as bast demonstrated with the fiber to carb ratio in a banana and oatmeal being very similar their digestion rates are very similar as well... and fructose isnt the kind of carb you want any way
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your better off with SODIUM than potassium to be honest :D banana isnt simple carbs either, as bast demonstrated with the fiber to carb ratio in a banana and oatmeal being very similar their digestion rates are very similar as well... and fructose isnt the kind of carb you want any way
candy...why would you choose sodium over potassium?
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candy...why would you choose sodium over potassium?
i think lack of sodium is most likely the primary cause of crampping in alot of bodybuilders...not lack of potassium
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i think lack of sodium is most likely the primary cause of crampping in alot of bodybuilders...not lack of potassium
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