Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure
Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: NaturalWonder83 on July 23, 2008, 04:11:50 PM
-
did any of u go see arnold at the olympia where he win in 80s??
my friend did-said mentzer should have won
i would have loved to have seen arnold compete
-
There is no controversy here, Arnold won........ with the legs of a chicken from KFC.
-
he was 205 pounds at 6'1" at that show.
-
Vince Basille from this site was front and center and took this photo that has been published in several mags.
-
the last time i saw legs like that they were hanging out of a nest.
-
the last time i saw legs like that they were hanging out of a nest.
atta boy Dave, bout time you showed up
-
Mentzer was a close 5th
-
the last time i saw legs like that they were hanging out of a nest.
Im sure your legs probably dwarf Arnold's, "QuakerOats" ::)
-
politics but 28 years ago now. Still not as shit a decision as last year
-
he was 205 pounds at 6'1" at that show.
Like hell he was. The man was 212 pounds at 6'1.5".
-
Vince Basille from this site was front and center and took this photo that has been published in several mags.
that was the last thing he did that was worth anything
-
Yeh i still bet his quads and calves were bigger than these people who are calling him bird legs etc ;D
He was the best man at that contest like it or not
-
whos that gymnast?
-
Vince Basille from this site was front and center and took this photo that has been published in several mags.
Mags said he was 218.
And that photo looks shopped to me. He was a bit more slender than that, it seemed.
-
there are some shots where arnold looked like a dry bber with sunken cheeks,rear hard looking with good abs,in 70;s he was lean for that era but massive ,he showed most seperation at 80 but much smaller.
-
cut him some slack! he ran out of dbol 5 weeks out :-\
-
cut him some slack! he ran out of dbol 5 weeks out :-\
That's what X Factor said when he took his own pics........
-
Mags said he was 218.
And that photo looks shopped to me. He was a bit more slender than that, it seemed.
they had photoshop in 1981??
that pic is scanned straight out of an old magazine. not surprised it doesn't look right to you Moose, you should see the things i see in clouds when i'm on morphine!! ;D
-
they had photoshop in 1981??
that pic is scanned straight out of an old magazine. not surprised it doesn't look right to you Moose, you should see the things i see in clouds when i'm on morphine!! ;D
218 looks about right. Arnold still had the massive upper body, even at 90%, nd the lack of legs would account for a 15# BW loss.
-
Arnold dwarfed Mentzer.
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/027.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/036.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/029.jpg)
-
I think roger Walker looked better than most on stage that day
-
Roger looked great but was lacking from the back. He had good detail just no width. And Arnolds arms were better by quite a bit .
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/037.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/038.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/022.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/058.jpg)
-
you're kidding right?
Roger's back killed Arnold by shear density, thickness, & conditioning
& I'm an Arnold fan
-
True, Roger had better detail and density but I have to go with Arnold because of his greater width and mass, I mean compare their arms in that last pic.
-
Mentzer definitely couldn't have beat Arnold that night but he should have at least placed higher than Zane. Zane deserved 8th at best, he looked like a stick. People dump on Arnolds legs but Zanes are much worse, it looks like the only exercise he bothered using was leg extensions, and his arms are about 15 to 16 inches.
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/032.jpg)
-
See the headline, Arnold wins 1980 Olympia? 'Nuff said. 8)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_1228.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_1229.jpg)
-
he was 205 pounds at 6'1" at that show.
::)
-
that was the last thing he did that was worth anything
post of the day
-
::)
thought you were too cool to care about bodyweights and the whole bodybuilding thing. ::)
-
thought you were too cool to care about bodyweights and the whole bodybuilding thing. ::)
The only thing "cool" about him is the icy hot cooling balm his boyfriend applies to his anus.
-
See the headline, Arnold wins 1980 Olympia? 'Nuff said. 8)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_1228.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_1229.jpg)
should say
Arnold 'Wins' 80 Olympia
-
Arnold was the best man that day.
End of story.
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/043.jpg)
-
Zane talked about the incumbent theory, the judges saw Arnold as the champ, not as he appeared. You have to beat him, and nobody was good enough that day.
On a side note, Roger Walker was awesome, should have placed better. Tinnerino, always in shape, poor poser though. Zane, always small, I saw him train and he was tiny. Those were the days!!!
Now we have getbiggers and everyone could have taken Arnold that day!!!
-
Now we have getbiggers and everyone could have taken Arnold that day!!!
I would have been a close second.
-
I guess if everyone else was tied for first, eh m8?
-
I think roger Walker looked better than most on stage that day
Even you, baby Kenneth had to admit that Arnold stole that show with help from Weider.
He didn't deserve it.
Mentzer was dialed in......
DIV
-
should say
Arnold 'Wins' 80 Olympia
Huh? ???
That's what it says.
-
Mentzer was dialed in......
wouldn't go that far. I had Mike #2 or #3
-
wouldn't go that far. I had Mike #2 or #3
I would've given the cry baby third as well.
-
Even you, baby Kenneth had to admit that Arnold stole that show with help from Weider.
He didn't deserve it.
Mentzer was dialed in......
DIV
You could make the case that Mentzer, Dickerson, Zane and Arnod all deserved to win. Zane was off in size because of an injury, but so was Arnold.
Just goes by what your preference is.
-
I'm sorry...but except for Dickerson's calves & conditioning...the year he won was only because everyone else was way off
-
I'm sorry...but except for Dickerson's calves & conditioning...the year he won was only because everyone else was way off
Dickerson was winning all the IFBB shows in 79 and 80, he does not look that good now-looking back, but he was pretty good for his time.
-
Dickerson was winning all the IFBB shows in 79 and 80, he does not look that good now-looking back, but he was pretty good for his time.
amazing how the field was filled with fodder
-
amazing how the field was filled with fodder
Back then the competition was not nerly as tough..... I so remember Don Ross competing agaonst dickerson in a show in 79, Ross got hsi clock cleaned in that show- he was from Dan Luries WBBG and those guys usually placed low in IFBB shows...
Robby wn his share of shows back then.
-
the last time i saw legs like that they were hanging out of a nest.
Epic Boyer Coe quote.
-
Epic Boyer Coe quote.
The last time I saw hair like Boyer Coe's it was on the back of a squirrel ;D
-
Boyer may have a bad rug...but he always seemed like a good guy
-
the last time i saw legs like that they were hanging out of a nest.
Poor analogy as birds don't hang their feet out of nests. -1
-
Poor analogy as birds don't hang their feet out of nests. -1
Do much birdwatching?
(http://www.irock.com.au/~birdscapricornia/birdwatcher2.jpg)
-
Arnold owned Boyer Coe! Both guys were known for their arms but Arnold easily outmassed him. Compare them from the back in this pic (Boyer is on the right). People dump on Arnold for his victory in 1980 but he was still the biggest guy onstage.
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/058.jpg)
-
Thats because he wasnt the same Arnold bbing knew in that show.
Padilla and Platz looked good in 80, they didnt deserve 10th and 9th, they looked better than Zane, Coe and Mentzer though. Dickerson looked good.
None were necessarily better than Arnold, maybe as good, so obviously Arnold had to get it.
-
I am constantly amazed by people who think Mentzer should have won the 1980 Olympia. Yes he was sporting hard conditioning but he wasn't anymore ripped than Arnold was, and Arnold made him look tiny.
The only guys who had enough mass to compete with Arnold were Roger Walker and Dennis Tinerino who finished 6th and 8th.
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/027.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/036.jpg)
As you see from the second pic Mentzer wasn't all that much bigger than Zane. Mentzer & Zane look small when bookended by the huge Arnold & Tinerino, It wasn't even close.
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/057.jpg)(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/058.jpg)
Here compare Arnolds and Mentzers back double biceps, Arnolds arms are huge and his back is wide, while Mentzer sucks from the back (see the 3rd pic with Mentzer on the right getting owned hard by the shorter Danny Padilla who inexplicably got 10th).
-
Thats because he wasnt the same Arnold bbing knew in that show.
Padilla and Platz looked good in 80, they didnt deserve 10th and 9th, they looked better than Zane, Coe and Mentzer though. Dickerson looked good.
None were necessarily better than Arnold, maybe as good, so obviously Arnold had to get it.
Figo, I have to disagree.
Along with Samir, Padilla and Platz were very smooth and nwatery, not comparable to the guys you mentioned who placed ahead.
-
I am constantly amazed by people who think Mentzer should have won the 1980 Olympia. Yes he was sporting hard conditioning but he wasn't anymore ripped than Arnold was, and Arnold made him look tiny.
The only guys who had enough mass to compete with Arnold were Roger Walker and Dennis Tinerino who finished 6th and 8th.
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/027.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/036.jpg)
As you see from the second pic Mentzer wasn't all that much bigger than Zane. Mentzer & Zane look small when bookended by the huge Arnold & Tinerino, It wasn't even close.
You do not speak fairly, totally ignoring A's non-existant 'half body'
C'mon now, be fair.
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/057.jpg)(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/058.jpg)
Here compare Arnolds and Mentzers back double biceps, Arnolds arms are huge and his back is wide, while Mentzer sucks from the back (see the 3rd pic with Mentzer on the right getting owned hard by the shorter Danny Padilla who inexplicably got 10th).
-
Figo, I have to disagree.
Along with Samir, Padilla and Platz were very smooth and nwatery, not comparable to the guys you mentioned who placed ahead.
Are you blind?
get a copy of the comback. I think Platz is the most shredded guy there that day. When he's posing in front of the mirror, even Samir was like "holy shit"
-
Are you blind?
get a copy of the comback. I think Platz is the most shredded guy there that day. When he's posing in front of the mirror, even Samir was like "holy shit"
Yes, maybe.
I only had / have access to the photos in mags...never saw the comeback...must say M&F did not really show much of Platz and Danny...just relaxed shots...either way maybe they were overlooked
-
At 50 seconds...watch
Platz came in extremely sharp.....very amazing
-
Scorecard...
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/oly.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/fd.jpg)
-
Platz was robbed in 81
-
Mentzer couldn't touch Arnold. Arnold was probably in his best ever condition in 1980 and his structure was vastly superior.
-
Like hell he was. The man was 212 pounds at 6'1.5".
ARNOLD said it himself he was 6'4" and 250lbs for the 7the Mr. O win...
-
People dump on Arnold for his victory in 1980 but he was still the biggest guy onstage.
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/058.jpg)
biggest does not always win look at dennis wolf vs jay cutler......in 07 Mr. O.
-
ARNOLD said it himself he was 6'4" and 250lbs for the 7the Mr. O win...
Arnie was far from being either one
-
I don't care who won, no way it was Mentzer.
-
ARNOLD said it himself he was 6'4" and 250lbs for the 7the Mr. O win...
musta used a lot of synthol to get that tall!!
-
what is the point of these stupid ass threads??? ???
Arnold would have won no matter what!!! don't you all get it?
he won as soon as he stepped on stage, the judges were mesmerized and that was that, he is Arnold for Christs sake, do you really think they would have placed him any where else other than first? ::)
-
what is the point of these stupid ass threads??? ???
Arnold would have won no matter what!!! don't you all get it?
he won as soon as he stepped on stage, the judges were mesmerized and that was that, he is Arnold for Christs sake, do you really think they would have placed him any where else other than first? ::)
Whoa! Calm down there, chief. :o
Relax. Take a deep breath. Go ahead...
Now, count to 10.
-
what is the point of these stupid ass threads??? ???
Arnold would have won no matter what!!! don't you all get it?
he won as soon as he stepped on stage, the judges were mesmerized and that was that, he is Arnold for Christs sake, do you really think they would have placed him any where else other than first? ::)
get the hell out of my thread unknown newbie
-
cool video,platz had ggod look that night,abs were in great shape,u could see in there faces they were drained not like todays pros who have db chins,bloated faces,looked like they coasted on there diets or pulled a rabbitt out of there hats to get in shape.i think both eras have there time to shine tho.arnold was down in size for sure but he was in shape and brought close to his best esp after zanes run of extra hard conditioning arnold brought his body to the new standard of bbing ,and looked great.
-
At 50 seconds...watch
Platz came in extremely sharp.....very amazing
\
Damn, Platz is looking crazy..... his abs are amazing at, and his chest is dialed in bigtime!
-
get the hell out of my thread unknown newbie
I am the "newbie" here??? ???
Name: IronMagazine.com
Date Registered: June 12, 2004
Name: NaturalWonder83
Date Registered: May 05, 2008
-
I am the "newbie" here??? ???
Name: IronMagazine.com
Date Registered: June 12, 2004
Name: NaturalWonder83
Date Registered: May 05, 2008
He was trolling around as lamplighterX previously. After he was laughed at he quit and returned with a new account...only to be laughed at again
Poor naturalfag83 - a true getbig gaytroll
:D
-
cool video,platz had ggod look that night,abs were in great shape,u could see in there faces they were drained not like todays pros who have db chins,bloated faces,looked like they coasted on there diets or pulled a rabbitt out of there hats to get in shape.i think both eras have there time to shine tho.arnold was down in size for sure but he was in shape and brought close to his best esp after zanes run of extra hard conditioning arnold brought his body to the new standard of bbing ,and looked great.
Pretty much sums it up.
Arnold had to get into his best condition ever to compete with the new generation of BBers. He came in great condition, but lost size. Still looked the best on stage that day other than maybe Dickerson.
-
At 50 seconds...watch
Platz came in extremely sharp.....very amazing
Cool clip thanks.
-
Scorecard...
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/oly.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/fd.jpg)
Lol @ Mits Kawashima ;D ;D
Arnold was still the clear winner.
-
Platz was robbed in 81
This is very true.
-
What Arnold had first and foremost was charisma. He also had better genetics than anyone who ever posed on the dias...period! Even if he was not in the best shape of his life he still looked better than anyone on that stage that night...period!! Politics aside and I am sure there where some just as there have been some since then, Arnold was the best built that night! ;)
-
I can see why there were bitchy (read jealous) comments from the other bodybuilders that night, I mean here's a guy who only started training seriously for the competiton 3 months out (after being retired for 5 years) and he was still better than they were. It had to be a massive blow to their egos.
The fact that Mentzer took it as hard as he did and became disillusioned, and a little crazy just go's to show how delusional he was. He was lucky to get 5th, he should have never beaten Roger Walker or Dennis Tinerino.
I'm amazed that Arnold at about 80% of his best was still bigger than everyone, it was definitely his best conditioning though.
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/059.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/019.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/049.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/030.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/053.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/040.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/056.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/018.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/046.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/052.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/043.jpg)
-
I can see why there were bitchy (read jealous) comments from the other bodybuilders that night, I mean here's a guy who only started training seriously for the competition 6 months out (after being retired for 5 years) and he was still better than they were. It had to be a massive blow to their egos.
The fact that Mentzer took it as hard as he did and became disillusioned, and a little crazy just go's to show how delusional he was. He was lucky to get 5th, he should have never beaten Roger Walker or Dennis Tinerino. I'm amazed that Arnold at about 80% of his best was still bigger than everyone, it was definitely his best conditioning though.
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/059.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/019.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/049.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/030.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/053.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/040.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/056.jpg)
Awesome shots man! I am so tired of those who state that Arnold stole that show. He beat everybody before he even took the stage and they new it!! They where just pissed off because he tricked them by starting out as a commentator covering the show. I can still remember when this all went down, I kept telling my friends that he was going to win the show. they where like what are you talking about..........he hasn't even entered. He did the same thing when he ran for govoner. HAHAHAHAHAH, he is a mastermind.
-
What I would do to look like this right now. Fucking amazing!!!
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/052.jpg)
-
What I would do to look like this right now.
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/052.jpg)
Start taking MuscleTech. :D
-
I think Arnold deserved to win, but it's funny that the judges were his friends. ;D
-
did any of u go see arnold at the olympia where he win in 80s??
my friend did-said mentzer should have won
i would have loved to have seen arnold compete
In my opinion, Arnold was top 3 at the 1980 Olympia. Did he deserve to win? Maybe not, but the top three were so close that you can't point out any guy who definitely should have beat Arnold.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
-
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
" I had a chance to win in 1980 Mr Olympia and damn you for coming back to beat us all , damn you to hell Schwarzenegger , someone have any meth? "
-
Arnold may have not been the deserving winner in 1980 but all I know is neither was Mike Mentzer
-
;)
-
;)
-
:o
-
:o
-
;)
-
:o
-
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
" I had a chance to win in 1980 Mr Olympia and damn you for coming back to beat us all , damn you to hell Schwarzenegger , someone have any meth? "
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225384.0;attach=264669;image)
Samir: You got in Mike's head. Gimme five, King.
Arnold: Mike was too easy.
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_1144.jpg)
-
Samir: You got in Mike's head. Gimme five, King.
Arnold: Mike was too easy.
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_1144.jpg)
Arnold is a pro owner.
-
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
" I had a chance to win in 1980 Mr Olympia and damn you for coming back to beat us all , damn you to hell Schwarzenegger , someone have any meth? "
No
A was actling like a little child here
and was fearful
of looking mm in the eye
who would have ripped his head off
-
:o
in last pic with Zane
you do not see
that, compared w zane, a has half a body?
NO LEGS AT ALL=Not Mr. O
-
Figo, I have to disagree.
Along with Samir, Padilla and Platz were very smooth and nwatery, not comparable to the guys you mentioned who placed ahead.
Like Knny said, the vid shows their condition.
-
Like Knny said, the vid shows their condition.
gotta see it
-
No
A was actling like a little child here
and was fearful
of looking mm in the eye
who would have ripped his head off
You have no idea how anybody was acting from that photograph, unless you were there in the room at the time....... and Arnold was afraid to look him in the eye? What other crazy observations can Mentzer fans mine from it? Because they certainly don't have a lot of fodder to choose from to make case for why Mentzer is better than Arnold.
Next you will be reminding everyone that Mike was a philosopher who liked to suck on Ayn Rands spiky cock (she had one you know) "so he's clearly more intelligent than Arnold wahhhh!" Who gives a shit they were bodybuilders so the only thing that matters is that Arnold kicked Mentzers ass hard on stage, and I think it's funny that Arnolds inferior and completely wrong training methods still allowed him to look much bigger than Mike after only 6 months of serious training. ;D
Anyway I seriously doubt that Mentzer would have said all that much in front of weider and everyone, from all accounts he was pretty introverted. He was also 5'8 while Arnold was 6'2 so I don't know why Arnold would have been scared of him, he was just so much bigger as the photo's in this thread show.
A lot of people want to make out that there was this big rivalry between them but Mike wasn't even a blip on Arnolds radar, Arnold was just too successful, maybe Arnold could have been said to have had rivalry during is competitive heyday with Sergio Oliva and Sylvester Stallone at the box-office, but Mike Mentzer? Hardly. What did Mike ever achieve? They only met on stage once and then Mike talked shit about Arnold over and over to every 3rd tier magazine that would listen to him until the day he died, that's it just one small mans inability to move on in his life, talk about a storm in a teacup.
-
No
A was actling like a little child here
and was fearful
of looking mm in the eye
who would have ripped his head off
Nah. ;)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/Arnie_and_Boyer.jpg)
-
Nah. ;)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/Arnie_and_Boyer.jpg)
A staring at his detractors after he was forced to capitulate to the group's wishes.
Please, Mentzer was angry enough he'd of tore a's head from his shoulders....they said in mag at time that ben W and others intervened btw the two before MM could do the same
always take the angrier man in a streetfightl
-
A staring at his detractors after he was forced to capitulate to the group's wishes.
Please, Mentzer was angry enough he'd of tore a's head from his shoulders....they said in mag at time that ben W and others intervened btw the two before MM could do the same
always take the angrier man in a streetfightl
it's not a street fight though, moose. it's a bb contest and Arnold did what he could to throw Mike's focus off his presentation. it worked brilliantly.
who would win that fight is about as relevant to that day as who had the nicer car.
-
it's not a street fight though, moose. it's a bb contest and Arnold did what he could to throw Mike's focus off his presentation. it worked brilliantly.
who would win that fight is about as relevant to that day as who had the nicer car.
Or who had to suck the most dicks when their welfare checks didn't cover their meth habit. Oh wait scratch that, it only applied to one of them, my bad. ;)
-
I will say this for Mentzer, it was a pity he self destructed after the contest because he had a good build. Another 2-3 years of solid training and he could have been a contender. I mean Samir Bannout finished 15th at the 1980 Olympia and 9th at the 1981 Olympia but then won the show in 1983, he didn't freak out because of bad placings but worked hard and reaped the rewards. Was 5th place such a slap in the face that quitting and grousing about it for the rest of his life the only answer?
Would Arnold have had any success in any facet of his life if he had of quit after losing to Sergio?
-
\
Damn, Platz is looking crazy..... his abs are amazing at, and his chest is dialed in bigtime!
Which is why Moose was dead wrong by saying Platz was off that night.
He was very dialed in. He deserved about 3-4 placings higher...easily.
-
A staring at his detractors after he was forced to capitulate to the group's wishes.
Please, Mentzer was angry enough he'd of tore a's head from his shoulders....they said in mag at time that ben W and others intervened btw the two before MM could do the same
always take the angrier man in a streetfightl
If you knew anything about fighting (stick to greasing your luxurious mullet) you would know that the man in controle wins 9 out of 10 times. The hot head who is easily agitated and out of controle will lose most of the time.
-
If you knew anything about fighting (stick to greasing your luxurious mullet) you would know that the man in controle wins 9 out of 10 times. The hot head who is easily agitated and out of controle will lose most of the time.
Take it easy on Moosejay, he's just getting his head around the fact that a black man is about to become the POTUS. This extreme realignment of his reality has left him not thinking clearly.
-
it's not a street fight though, moose. it's a bb contest and Arnold did what he could to throw Mike's focus off his presentation. it worked brilliantly.
who would win that fight is about as relevant to that day as who had the nicer car.
true, just answering to the youngster's misgivings
-
Which is why Moose was dead wrong by saying Platz was off that night.
He was very dialed in. He deserved about 3-4 placings higher...easily.
Maybe, maybe not
-
If you knew anything about fighting (stick to greasing your luxurious mullet) you would know that the man in controle wins 9 out of 10 times. The hot head who is easily agitated and out of controle will lose most of the time.
I was a doorman for 7 years
NEVER had a fight
Don't know a thing about fighting, Tap-Out Boy
Bc I was a superb diplomat
Defused the worst of riotous potentials
Many times over ;)
-
Take it easy on Moosejay, he's just getting his head around the fact that a black man is about to become the POTUS. This extreme realignment of his reality has left him not thinking clearly.
Dream on, Fan Boy
NOTHING in my life will change regardless of who is president
Umlike others, who are lemmings
-
it's not a street fight though, moose. it's a bb contest and Arnold did what he could to throw Mike's focus off his presentation. it worked brilliantly.
who would win that fight is about as relevant to that day as who had the nicer car.
Haz, you give Arnold too much credit...... it was a contraversy that's for sure
-
If you knew anything about fighting (stick to greasing your luxurious mullet) you would know that the man in controle wins 9 out of 10 times. The hot head who is easily agitated and out of controle will lose most of the time.
I dont know Eric, if you get someone who is just mad as hell, he may be out of control and that out of control anger might really put a crazy person over the top in a fight....I dont know first hand though, I am a lover not a fighter...... :D
-
I dont know Eric, if you get someone who is just mad as hell, he may be out of control and that out of control anger might really put a crazy person over the top in a fight....I dont know first hand though, I am a lover not a fighter...... :D
I saw a 145 pound drunk man pummel the sheet out of a 300 pound lumber jack dude....combo of anger and the fact that the lumber jac k didn't expect it...in a bar, one of the most amazing sites ever....bam bam bam and it was done
Yeah...I am not really worried about 'knowing how to fight'
-
You have no idea how anybody was acting from that photograph, unless you were there in the room at the time
Nor do you
....... and Arnold was afraid to look him in the eye? What other crazy observations can Mentzer fans mine from it?
I am not a mentzer "fan"
Because they certainly don't have a lot of fodder to choose from to make case why Mentzer is better than Arnold.
Next you will be reminding everyone that Mike was a philosopher who liked to suck on Ayn Rands spiky cock (she had one you know) "so he's clearly more intelligent than Arnold wahhhh!" Who gives a shit they were bodybuilders so the only thing that matters is that Arnold kicked Mentzers ass hard on stage, and I think it's funny that Arnolds inferior and completely wrong training methods still allowed him to look much bigger than Mike after only 6 months of serious training. ;D
Anyway I seriously doubt that Mentzer would have said all that much in front of weider and everyone, from all accounts he was pretty introverted. He was also 5'8 while Arnold was 6'2 so I don't why Arnold would have been scared of him, he was just so much bigger as the photo's in this thread show.
And how do you know this, 'Antony'...were you there?
A lot of people want to make out that there was this big rivalry between them but Mike wasn't even a blip on Arnolds radar, Arnold was just too successful, maybe Arnold could have been said to have had rivalry during is competitive heyday with Sergio Oliva and Sylvester Stallone at the box-office, but Mike Mentzer? Hardly. What did Mike ever achieve? They only met on stage once and then Mike talked shit about Arnold over and over to every 3rd tier magazine that would listen to him until the day he died, that's it just one small mans inability to move on in his life, talk about a storm in a teacup.
Antony, please go take your anger to the gym!!!
-
Nor do you
I am not a mentzer "fan"
And how do you know this, 'Antony'...were you there?
You're right I have no idea what was really happening in that old photo, which is why I didn't make any comments or put forward any theories on what was going on when it was taken cause it would be pointless and silly. But you obviously felt different. quote "A was actling like a little child here and was fearful of looking mm in the eye who would have ripped his head off"
All that from one photo, amazing!
"he was just so much bigger as the photo's in this thread show."
And how do you know this, 'Antony'...were you there?
Why would I have to have been there to know that Arnold was bigger? All I have to do is look at every photo in this thread, but maybe you missed those.
-
You're right I have no idea what was really happening in that old photo, which is why I didn't make any comments or put forward any theories on what was going on when it was taken cause it would be pointless and silly. But you obviously felt different. quote "A was actling like a little child here and was fearful of looking mm in the eye who would have ripped his head off"
All that from one photo, amazing!
No, I have trained with several of the guys in that show, and had a seminar with one of the judges, Michael Walcszak, who also was the drug doc to almost all of the entrants
"he was just so much bigger as the photo's in this thread show."
And how do you know this, 'Antony'...were you there?
Why would I have to have been there to know that Arnold was bigger? All I have to do is look at every photo in this thread, but maybe you missed those.
You + Me= no Comparison in experience and exposure to all of this
No disrespect intended...btw, photos tell little truth next to actually seeing and judging
-
Maybe, maybe not
what he deserved & what he place is two different things obviously
-
You + Me= no Comparison in experience and exposure to all of this
No disrespect intended...btw, photos tell little truth next to actually seeing and judging
Fair enough. Since all we've got to go on are photos then we'll just have agree to disagree since we seem to be interpreting them differently.
-
Fair enough. Since all we've got to go on are photos then we'll just have agree to disagree since we seem to be interpreting them differently.
Very good, the, agreed!
-
Arnie sporting the zane physique in '80.
smh
-
Arnie sporting the Zane physique in '80.
Sm
well, actually, no.
-
Hahaha, Arnold would have torn that midget's ass into pieces!
-
Hahaha, Arnold would have torn that midget's ass into pieces!
I dont know, Arnold was not THAT much bigger ::)
-
well, actually, no.
ummm ok
-
No
A was actling like a little child here
and was fearful
of looking mm in the eye
who would have ripped his head off
Dave Mastorakis told me that Mike had once met Arnold in the parking lot of some restaurant in California a couple of years later. Mike slammed Arnold up against a car and Arnold did nothing in return.
-
I can see why there were bitchy (read jealous) comments from the other bodybuilders that night, I mean here's a guy who only started training seriously for the competiton 6 months out (after being retired for 5 years) and he was still better than they were. It had to be a massive blow to their egos.
The fact that Mentzer took it as hard as he did and became disillusioned, and a little crazy just go's to show how delusional he was. He was lucky to get 5th, he should have never beaten Roger Walker or Dennis Tinerino.
I'm amazed that Arnold at about 80% of his best was still bigger than everyone, it was definitely his best conditioning though.
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/059.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/019.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/049.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/030.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/053.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/040.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/056.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/018.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/046.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/052.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/043.jpg)
You are wrong, I believe it was only 5 weeks.
-
:o
-
Haz, you give Arnold too much credit...... it was a contraversy that's for sure
i give Arnold tons of credit. not saying it was'nt controversial, just saying Arnold was playing head games and Mentzer fell for it. i remember waiting for the results of this contest, knowing Arnold was coming out of retirement. the biggest complaint wasn't if Arnold was the best, but was he HIS best. he was being compared to his prime.
i have the vhs of this contest (yep, i'm that old), and Mentzer was scared shitless on stage. maybe it was politics, but then again, so is the movie business and everyone laughed their asses off at Arnold in his first few. he coulda wasted his life screaming they screwed him, but he studied and promoted himself and became the number 1 box office draw. the man has more will and self assuredness than anyone in history.
Robert Kennedy said if Arnold didn;t win, he would have trained his ass off and won every bb contest for the next 5 years.
-
i have the vhs of this contest (yep, i'm that old), and Mentzer was scared shitless on stage.
I have it on VHS and DVD as well. I'm not defending Mike, but there was no indication that Mike was "scared shitless" onstage on The Comeback OR The 1980 Mr. Olympia films.
-
Damn, this is the BEST pic I have ever seen or Arnold at the 1980 Mr. O!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225384.0;attach=264813;image)
-
Damn, this is the BEST pic I have ever seen or Arnold at the 1980 Mr. O!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225384.0;attach=264813;image)
\
smoke and 'mirrors'
-
Arnold's arms were nothing but biceps. No tris, and pitiful forearms in comparison. Legs akin to big bird as well. How people say he is the greatest bodybuilder of all time is dumbfounding.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225384.0;attach=264813;image)
-
Arnold's arms were nothing but biceps. No tris, and pitiful forearms in comparison. Legs akin to big bird as well. How people say he is the greatest bodybuilder of all time is dumbfounding.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225384.0;attach=264813;image)
SPIN, smoke and mirrors
thats how
-
How people say he is the greatest bodybuilder of all time is dumbfounding.
Winning 7 times Mr. Olympia; 5 times Mr. Universe; Mr. World. Being awarded the IFBB Gold Order as the GREATEST bodybuilder of the 20th century. Winning poll after poll as being the GREATEST. Having thousands of fans the world over. His name symbolic to bodybuilding.
What's dumbfounding is you thinking otherwise! ;)
-
What really amazes me is that anyone would not think Arnold was the greatest. This is obviously a generation gap. Much like how these young guys think that Mike Tyson was a greater champ than Ali.
What Arnold had and has is the world by the balls. He was well known around the world for who he was well before his action movie career. I know of none other who could claim the same. I gaurantee you that there has never been a bodybuilder before or after who has done as much as Arnold has for the sport.
Not only is he known for having the most pleasing and perfect physique in the world (Guiness book of world records) he also beat everyone he competed against. He lost to Frank Zane...came back and beat him he lost to Sergio....came back and beat him. He even competed against is lifetime idol(Reg Park) to secure his place as best in the world for his own mindset.
I can remember the stir he created amongst young guys in the 70's after Pumping Iron came out. I went to the theatre to see it with some friends and I can remember my friends older brothers 18 years old or so, jaws dropped with shock at the sight of Arnold. I was only 7 but it stuck with me for sure, this was a look to have that muscle is awesome! He looked like he stepped out from a Comic book.
-
What really amazes me is that anyone would not think Arnold was the greatest. This is obviously a generation gap. Much like how these young guys think that Mike Tyson was a greater champ than Ali.
What Arnold had and has is the world by the balls. He was well known around the world for who he was well before his action movie career. I know of none other who could claim the same. I gaurantee you that there has never been a bodybuilder before or after who has done as much as Arnold has for the sport.
Not only is he known for having the most pleasing and perfect physique in the world (Guiness book of world records) he also beat everyone he competed against. He lost to Frank Zane...came back and beat him he lost to Sergio....came back and beat him. He even competed against is lifetime idol(Reg Park) to secure his place as best in the world for his own mindset.
I can remember the stir he created amongst young guys in the 70's after Pumping Iron came out. I went to the theatre to see it with some friends and I can remember my friends older brothers 18 years old or so, jaws dropped with shock at the sight of Arnold. I was only 7 but it stuck with me for sure, this was a look to have that muscle is awesome! He looked like he stepped out from a Comic book.
AND A FULL HARDCORE MOVIE WITH TODAYS CROP WOULD NEVER EXIST,NOBODY CARES.ARNOLD HAD MAJOR CROSSOVER APPEAL BACK THAN AND TODAY,ICON.
-
What really amazes me is that anyone would not think Arnold was the greatest. This is obviously a generation gap. Much like how these young guys think that Mike Tyson was a greater champ than Ali.
What Arnold had and has is the world by the balls. He was well known around the world for who he was well before his action movie career. I know of none other who could claim the same. I gaurantee you that there has never been a bodybuilder before or after who has done as much as Arnold has for the sport.
Not only is he known for having the most pleasing and perfect physique in the world (Guiness book of world records) he also beat everyone he competed against. He lost to Frank Zane...came back and beat him he lost to Sergio....came back and beat him. He even competed against is lifetime idol(Reg Park) to secure his place as best in the world for his own mindset.
I can remember the stir he created amongst young guys in the 70's after Pumping Iron came out. I went to the theatre to see it with some friends and I can remember my friends older brothers 18 years old or so, jaws dropped with shock at the sight of Arnold. I was only 7 but it stuck with me for sure, this was a look to have that muscle is awesome! He looked like he stepped out from a Comic book.
I don't think he ever got a second chance to best Chet Yorton ;D
-
Dave Mastorakis told me that Mike had once met Arnold in the parking lot of some restaurant in California a couple of years later. Mike slammed Arnold up against a car and Arnold did nothing in return.
Look who it is, are you and Howard staying away from those questionable websites?
-
Was Arnold the greatest of all times? Maybe not, but a strong case can be made that, given the distance between him and his contemporaries, that he was, indeed, the greatest ever. This is like the old debate between who's greater in chess, if Fischer or Kasparov. The latter achieved a higher ELO rating and was World Champion for much longer, but Fischer had a far more crushing superiority over his rivals than Kasparov: Fischer defeated Spassky at the 1972 World Championship in a far more dominating fashon than Kasparov ever dominated Karpov, Anand and Kramnik - his three strongest competitors. So if Fischer had access to the current amount of chess knowledge, he would arguably have a higher ELO rating than Kasparov and would defeat Kasparov in his prime.
A strong case can be made that no Mr.Olympia had the kind of dominance over the number two guy that Arnold had at the 1974 Olympia, not even Dorian at the 1995 Olympia or Ronnie at the 2003 Olympia. So going by this criteria, Arnold is the greatest ever. If he had access to current drugs and training knowledge, he would defeat a prime Dorian and Ronnie.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
-
Dave Mastorakis told me that Mike had once met Arnold in the parking lot of some restaurant in California a couple of years later. Mike slammed Arnold up against a car and Arnold did nothing in return.
Hmmm....tough to believe, on the East Coast I feel we would have heard of that, with Dave being from here.
On the other hand, its been maintained that Arnold would not fight /back down if he did not have any 'back up'.
-
Was Arnold the greatest of all times? Maybe not, but a strong case can be made that, given the distance between him and his contemporaries, that he was, indeed, the greatest ever. This is like the old debate between who's greater in chess, if Fischer or Kasparov. The latter achieved a higher ELO rating and was World Champion for much longer, but Fischer had a far more crushing superiority over his rivals than Kasparov: Fischer defeated Spassky at the 1972 World Championship in a far more dominating fashon than Kasparov ever dominated Karpov, Anand and Kramnik - his three strongest competitors. So if Fischer had access to the current amount of chess knowledge, he would arguably have a higher ELO rating than Kasparov and would defeat Kasparov in his prime.
A strong case can be made that no Mr.Olympia had the kind of dominance over the number two guy that Arnold had at the 1974 Olympia, not even Dorian at the 1995 Olympia or Ronnie at the 2003 Olympia. So going by this criteria, Arnold is the greatest ever. If he had access to current drugs and training knowledge, he would defeat a prime Dorian and Ronnie.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Like trying to compare Jim Brown to Barry Sanders.
You can't, really
-
Dave Mastorakis told me that Mike had once met Arnold in the parking lot of some restaurant in California a couple of years later. Mike slammed Arnold up against a car and Arnold did nothing in return.
another my girlfriend's brother's uncle's sister's cousin worked with a guy who did some plumbing work for a guy who lived down the street from a guy who knew Arnold story. ::)
-
another my girlfriend's brother's uncle's sister's cousin worked with a guy who did some plumbing work for a guy who lived down the street from a guy who knew Arnold story. ::)
No
He mentioned Dave Mastorakis
Great East Coast bb who was vg friends with mentzer
IF it came from him, it MAY be true
-
Dave Mastorakis told me that Mike had once met Arnold in the parking lot of some restaurant in California a couple of years later. Mike slammed Arnold up against a car and Arnold did nothing in return.
Another version may have been that Mike was drugged out, clumsily lashed out at A, and A felt sorry for him
alho I have a hard time with A feeling sorry for anybody
-
Arnold is the King
-
Arnold is the King
when all is said and done, this is truth
-
& don't you forget it
-
Dave Mastorakis told me that Mike had once met Arnold in the parking lot of some restaurant in California a couple of years later. Mike slammed Arnold up against a car and Arnold did nothing in return.
too bad there was no UFC back then cause the way guys are talking Mentzer would have been better suited to that than to bodybuilding
-
Arnold's strength was Mentzer's weakness.
-
Arnold's strength was Mentzer's weakness.
And vice versa?
-
Dave M is smoking drugs
-
Dave M is smoking drugs
Crack :D
-
;)
-
:o
-
;)
-
;)
-
:o
-
There's Roger Walker looking good
-
;)
-
:o
-
;)
-
;)
-
;)
MM's back and triceps thickness is significantly superior to that of A here
-
MM's back and triceps thickness is significantly superior to that of A here
Triceps yes, back hell no. Arnold had the best back on stage that night. Nobody had thicker lats.
-
MM's back and triceps thickness is significantly superior to that of A here
Mentzer's back was weak and Arnold Simply dwarfed him from every angle.
Arnold's back. This picture clearly shows how big Arnold was.
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/058.jpg)
Mentzer's back. He looks narrow and lacks thickness. The shorter Danny Padilla who finished 10th is owning Mike in this shot.
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/057.jpg)
Compare Arnold's and Mentzer's arms in these shots, Mentzer was simply dwarfed. End of story.
-
Is that Arnold? Doesn't look like it?
-
Is that Arnold? Doesn't look like it?
Arnold is second from the right in the first pic. Or you know you could just look for the biggest guy on the stage.
Mentzer is the one on the right side in the second pic. Or you know you could just look for the guy getting owned by a midget. 8)
-
Arnold is second from the right in the first pic. Or you know you could just look for the biggest guy on the stage.
Mentzer is the one on the right side in the second pic. Or you know you could just look for the guy getting owned by a midget. 8)
Good breakdown. :D
-
Dickerson's back holds up well against Arnold's here.
Courtesy: http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia.html
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/039.jpg)
Dickerson's whole body (back especially) looked freaky in a relaxed shot from behind.
-
It really surprises me that The Comeback or the 2 disk 1980 Mr. Olympia videos never captured this moment on film...
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_1146.jpg)
-
Triceps yes, back hell no. Arnold had the best back on stage that night. Nobody had thicker lats.
Callendar, for one. Walker as well. MM, yes.
A was not know for a great back. Good back, yes. Great back, not really.
-
Triceps yes, back hell no. Arnold had the best back on stage that night. Nobody had thicker lats.
Simply asking you to be objective.
Tris, yes.
Back...in the photo above, just look at traps, spinal erectors...A may be WIDER, but so what. Y'all know he barely trained for this show, lost a lot of thickness....got hgis old frame back, but none of his old, trademark thickness.
-
It really surprises me that The Comeback or the 2 disk 1980 Mr. Olympia videos never captured this moment on film...
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_1146.jpg)
It was said that Franco wanted too much money for his appearance. Arnold promised him the O the next year, but, by then it was too late to put him in that all time great, 'The Comeback'.
-
Simply asking you to be objective.
Tris, yes.
Back...in the photo above, just look at traps, spinal erectors...A may be WIDER, but so what. Y'all know he barely trained for this show, lost a lot of thickness....got hgis old frame back, but none of his old, trademark thickness.
Arnold at 80% (or there abouts) of his best was still more than enough, and isn't it great that his completely wrong training methods still allowed him to easily outmass Mentzer in the short amount of time that Arnold had to prepare. Awesome, simply awesome. ;D
-
Simply asking you to be objective.
Tris, yes.
Back...in the photo above, just look at traps, spinal erectors...A may be WIDER, but so what. Y'all know he barely trained for this show, lost a lot of thickness....got hgis old frame back, but none of his old, trademark thickness.
Am I missing something? Arnold's lat thickness blows everyone else's outta the water in this picture.
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/058.jpg)
-
Am I missing something? Arnold's lat thickness blows everyone else's outta the water in this picture.
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/058.jpg)
You, are not missing anything the photo speaks for itself as do all the others in this thread. Certain other people posting here however seem to be from a planet where 2 + 2 = 5.
Arnold doesn't just have the biggest back, his arms in that shot are much bigger than the other guys. ;)
-
Mentzer couldn't touch Arnold. Arnold was probably in his best ever condition in 1980 and his structure was vastly superior.
What an idiot.
-
If anyone's back was thicker than Arnold's, it would be Dickerson's. He looked arguably better than Arnold when both compared relaxed shots from the back.
What I'd like to see is a back double bi comparison between them.
-
What an idiot.
Mentzer had no chest, narrow shoulders, and a huge gut. He had nothing on Arnold. Mike came in good condition, but he got what he deserved in 5th place.
The contest was really close between Dickerson and Arnold. I think Arnold was more complete from the front though.
-
Also notice in the stand relaxed shots that everyone except Arnold is standing in a non-relaxed state. They're all flexing while Arnold is standing there doing nothing. The relaxed photos are deceiving.
-
Found a half-decent comparison between them. As I suspected, Dickerson seems to show superior middle traps, infraspinatus, and teres major. Dickerson does look to be squeezing his scapula together just a bit more than Arnie, which would likely make those muscles of his upper back pop out more, skewing the comparison. There must be a better shot of this somewhere.
-
If anyone was screwed it was Dickerson by a long shot. His back was slightly better than Arnold's, but his legs were vastly superior. However, Arnold's arms and chest were better. Conditioning wise I'd say it was about equal. Tough to call, but Dickerson and Arnold were easily the best guys on stage that night.
Dickerson's back lookin' dense.
(http://i33.tinypic.com/ac4uc3.jpg)
-
is that true?
Unless there were official weigh-ins it's BS.
-
Am I missing something? Arnold's lat thickness blows everyone else's outta the water in this picture.
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/058.jpg)
Respectfully, I disagree
-
Respectfully, I disagree
-
Nah, I have helped both guys with writing short articles. They seem to like me okay.
-
Respectfully, I disagree
The only guy comparable to Arnold back thickness wise in that photo is Boyer Coe. Here's proof that Arnold's back was thicker than Roger Walker's.
Notice how much thicker Arnolds traps and lats. Arnold is also much wider.
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/037.jpg)
Their spinal erectors are about the same thickness, but look how Arnolds lat thickness stands out against the xmas tree.
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/038.jpg)
Roger has him on back detail, but for density Arnold has the better back.
-
Nah, I have helped both guys with writing short articles. They seem to like me okay.
I'm sure my statement was on their minds
-
Whether Arnold should have won or not is debatable. What is impressive is how he retired for 5 years and then only trained hard for a couple of months and looked as good as he did. Some of his friends (Michael Walchak MD, Ken Waller) say that a week out, he looked much better and fuller, close to his 75 showing. He had a bad shoulder injury and foolishly got a cortisone shot which made him hold water. To counter act that, he took some diueretics the last couple of days and he looked real flat at prejudging. Everyone agrees he was better at the night show.
-
Whether Arnold should have won or not is debatable. What is impressive is how he retired for 5 years and then only trained hard for a couple of months and looked as good as he did. Some of his friends (Michael Walchak MD, Ken Waller) say that a week out, he looked much better and fuller, close to his 75 showing. He had a bad shoulder injury and foolishly got a cortisone shot which made him hold water. To counter act that, he took some diueretics the last couple of days and he looked real flat at prejudging. Everyone agrees he was better at the night show.
Arnold trained hard for 8 weeks, a very short amount of time for any show, much less the O.
He never was close to 75 though.
-
Arnold trained hard for 8 weeks, a very short amount of time for any show, much less the O.
He never was close to 75 though.
Yeah I agree..but remember he wasn't at his biggest in 75 either..My favorite Arnold year was 74. He was big, full, cut and even his legs were thick and shredded.
-
Franco look's like one of those retards Arnold helps at the retard Olympics. ;D
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_1146.jpg)
-
Franco look's like one of those retards Arnold helps at the retard Olympics. ;D
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_1146.jpg)
It does look like foreshadowing.
-
Franco look's like one of those retards Arnold helps at the retard Olympics. ;D
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_1146.jpg)
Ha Ha Ha ha Ha
-
Whether Arnold should have won or not is debatable. What is impressive is how he retired for 5 years and then only trained hard for a couple of months and looked as good as he did. Some of his friends (Michael Walchak MD, Ken Waller) say that a week out, he looked much better and fuller, close to his 75 showing. He had a bad shoulder injury and foolishly got a cortisone shot which made him hold water. To counter act that, he took some diueretics the last couple of days and he looked real flat at prejudging. Everyone agrees he was better at the night show.
Chem, remember how he said he got to hotel room in Aus, turned on the oven, and posed multiple time his routine with a sweat suit on to eke out the water?
-
Chem, remember how he said he got to hotel room in Aus, turned on the oven, and posed multiple time his routine with a sweat suit on to eke out the water?
Yeah, I read that in the magazines. He said he just kept posing for hours till the water got out...think he may have done some diuretics though.
-
bwahahahahahahahahahaha. ...CLASSIC
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225384.0;attach=265705;image)
-
The ol' saying, "we're not laughing at you, we're laughing with you" does not apply here. :D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225384.0;attach=265705;image)
-
Great thread.
Mods, move this to the Arnold board please!
-
Mentzer definitely couldn't have beat Arnold that night but he should have at least placed higher than Zane. Zane deserved 8th at best, he looked like a stick. People dump on Arnolds legs but Zanes are much worse, it looks like the only exercise he bothered using was leg extensions, and his arms are about 15 to 16 inches.
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/032.jpg)
this is a very old thread, but i must tell you what a fool you are......zane was known to squat for leg development.....please don't make moronic statements like this about zane. zane had good leg development, his problem was that he appeared flat on stage due to over dieting.
-
Would have been awesome to see the "prime" Zane against this version of Arnold.
-
This pose ends all speculation...
-
i saw him in august 1980 and he was mor than 205 pounds for sure . too bad he was not groomed for the event . hair greased . others never looked sloppy like that . but yes he had his name his arms his calves .
-
it seems that people are more severe towards franco in 1981 than schwarzenegger in 1980 . yet franco didnt play tricks on his opponents
-
it seems that people are more severe towards franco in 1981 than schwarzenegger in 1980 . yet franco didnt play tricks on his opponents
^^
He didn't HAVE to, his BEST FRIEND was the promoter....
-
it seems that people are more severe towards franco in 1981 than schwarzenegger in 1980 . yet franco didnt play tricks on his opponents
He did a magic trick
He made his legs disappear
-
arnold did not have much to say in olympia 1981 . . as far as john fair say in his excellent intagible arnold and olympia 1980 .