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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=226027.0
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very sad :(
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Thoughts are with her and her family
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That sucks.
I'll send good thoughts her way.
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Very sad to hear that. Prayers to her and Michael.
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Laura & I have a common bond.
She'll pull through ok...I know it.
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Laura dont any prayers, she will just get ride of cancer anytime, right laura? :)
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I don't pray or support strangers.
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My thoughts are totally with Laura, and I do hope for once, since the Arvillas are long tern fixtures around here this thread can be respectful.
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My thoughts are totally with Laura, and I do hope for once, since the Arvillas are long tern fixtures around here this thread can be respectful.
Disrespectful comments in this thread should be deleted.
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I don't pray or support strangers.
Whats this??? if you dont care or support dont post here. simple..geez people go out of there way to be assholes
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Wow Sorry to hear ! my best wishes to both of you guys , remember tough times don't last tough people do.
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Do we know the details; type of cancer, stage, treatment?
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Do we know the details; type of cancer, stage, treatment?
Some details here:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=226027.msg3173801#msg3173801
Laura said more coming this week. She sees the doc Tuesday.
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Disrespectful comments in this thread should be deleted.
That's pretty rich from a guy who posts shit everywhere else ::)
Whats this??? if you dont care or support dont post here. simple..geez people go out of there way to be assholes
His point, I think, is that he doesn't know her at all. He only comes here to post about bodybuilding.
I am sure she will pull through. I will hope for that. Main thing is to get it early. Most people beat it if you do.
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Some details here:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=226027.msg3173801#msg3173801
Laura said more coming this week. She sees the doc Tuesday.
'Most thyroid cancers are very curable. In fact, the most common types of thyroid cancer (papillary and follicular) are the most curable. In younger patients, both papillary and follicular cancers can be expected to have better than 97% cure rate if treated appropriately.'
http://www.endocrineweb.com/thyroidca.html
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His point, I think, is that he doesn't know her at all. He only comes here to post about bodybuilding.
I am sure she will pull through. I will hope for that. Main thing is to get it early. Most people beat it if you do.
No, the point is, why even post in this thread at all if you arent gonna say something supportive? ::)
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Laura Lee is a fighter..this thing doesn't stand a chance against her
keep your head up Laura..Getbig is pulling for you..
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Anything she needs, Mike. Anything she needs...
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No, the point is, why even post in this thread at all if you arent gonna say something supportive? ::)
Because it's the internet and people never do. Most people are obviously gonna be upset and be ultra supportive. Some will not know her. Some won't believe it. Some fuckers might not even care. Some might us it as a way to troll.
The sad truth is that on these threads someone will always swim against the tide.
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Because it's the internet and people never do. Most people are obviously gonna be upset and be ultra supportive. Some will not know her. Some won't believe it. Some fuckers might not even care. Some might us it as a way to troll.
The sad truth is that on these threads someone will always swim against the tide.
True, there is a cokksucker in every crowd.......
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Because it's the internet and people never do. Most people are obviously gonna be upset and be ultra supportive. Some will not know her. Some won't believe it. Some fuckers might not even care. Some might us it as a way to troll.
The sad truth is that on these threads someone will always swim against the tide.
Well said man, I agree.
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=226027.0
sorry to hear...I wish the best for Mike and Laura
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Thank you everyone...and even you Pollux. You might not have said anything nice, but you took the time to read the thread and add your own "spice". I definitely appreciate all the support and well wishes from everyone. We always hear the word cancer spoken..sometimes we hear it daily and it doesn't quite effect you until you hear it as it pertains to someone you know (maybe even just on a message board). That same word spoken to you about you by a doctor becomes quite deafening. It really makes you look at things quite differently. I told another getbigger tonight that even though I don't know everyone that I speak to on this board when I come on here ... I feel like I'm hanging with friends ... and that helps. So even though we all do poke fun at each other (some more than others ;)) I want to thank you all for being there to make me laugh and even meltdown once in a while.
'Most thyroid cancers are very curable. In fact, the most common types of thyroid cancer (papillary and follicular) are the most curable. In younger patients, both papillary and follicular cancers can be expected to have better than 97% cure rate if treated appropriately.'
http://www.endocrineweb.com/thyroidca.html
Bast, you are right. Most thyroid cancers are curable. My situation is a bit more complex though unfortunately. I've had these nodules on my thyroid now for almost 4 years, who knows how long I've had cancer in them as they were never biopsied in the past. I also have an auto-immune disease and have had enlarged lymph nodes in my chest for 7 months now, while they were concentrating on thinking it was the Sarcoidosis that made them enlarged. The treatment they have me on for the Sarcoid didn't help the lymph nodes decrease in size. Believe me, I am praying every second that when they get in there (chest) everything is clean as a whistle and they pull out the diseased thyroid, give me my treatments after the surgery and say "you're good as gold". But if not...then I plan on fighting my ass off.
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Cancer is no joke and i wish you and your family the best...
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I wasn't being malicious. Michael and Laura are complete strangers to me. I don't know them on a personal level, so prayers and support will not be coming from me is all I'm saying. Relax. ::)
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Good luck & I wish you the best.
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Thank you everyone...and even you Pollux. You might not have said anything nice, but you took the time to read the thread and add your own "spice".
Laura, don't think I was bashing you by any means. I just don't pray or support complete strangers is all.
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Best of luck to you, hope everything turns out for the best.
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Keep your head up Laura, I will be looking forward to hearing about your full recovery. ;)
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I don't pray or support strangers.
I don't pray, period.
Good luck to Laura.
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I don't pray, period.
Good luck to Laura.
You will...some day, I guarantee it ;)
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she will beat it
Throid ca pretty beatable
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i dont know you, but i hope you recover from it...
FUCK CANCER!!!!
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Sorry to hear it hun................stay strong and get better fast!
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Laura,
Your type cancer luckily is not fatal and won`t be so don`t worry at all that your mortality is at stake. Focus instead on the recovery afterwards and look ahead. Make sure you also get second opinions.
Also, if you can`t afford care, please sign up for Medicaid and also visit various non-profit cancer sites. They will always help you out. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE take a minute to send and sign this: www.HR676.org or http://www.michaelmoore.com/sicko/what-can-i-do/petitions/pnum649.php
The bill is HR 676, single payer Universal HealthCare for all. Nobody in America should die or get second class treatment simply because they can`t afford it. I urge you Laura to send this to all of your friends and to sign it.
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Laura,
Your type cancer luckily is not fatal and won`t be so don`t worry at all that your mortality is at stake. Focus instead on the recovery afterwards and look ahead. Make sure you also get second opinions.
Also, if you can`t afford care, please sign up for Medicaid and also visit various non-profit cancer sites. They will always help you out. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE take a minute to send and sign this: www.HR676.org or http://www.michaelmoore.com/sicko/what-can-i-do/petitions/pnum649.php
The bill is HR 676, single payer Universal HealthCare for all. Nobody in America should die or get second class treatment simply because they can`t afford it. I urge you Laura to send this to all of your friends and to sign it.
ditto
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ditto
You and Adonis are ruining the thread with idiocy.....knock it off or bring to the political board. You and you fucking liberals....all you want to do is depend on the government for everything.
Laura, My heart goes out to you, Mike and your kids. My prayers are with you.
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You and Adonis are ruining the thread with idiocy.....knock it off or bring to the political board. You and you fucking liberals....all you want to do is depend on the government for everything.
Laura, My heart goes out to you, Mike and your kids. My prayers are with you.
go have a cocaine relapse and overdose you midget on top of a wedding cake
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You and Adonis are ruining the thread with idiocy.....knock it off or bring to the political board. You and you fucking liberals....all you want to do is depend on the government for everything.
Laura, My heart goes out to you, Mike and your kids. My prayers are with you.
I agree, either way, she should get care.
Single payer or noit, everybody gets what they need here.
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You and Adonis are ruining the thread with idiocy.....knock it off or bring to the political board. You and you fucking liberals....all you want to do is depend on the government for everything.
Laura, My heart goes out to you, Mike and your kids. My prayers are with you.
Look you buffoon,
You are not capable of rational thought. You probably think you should have Police Insurance or Fire Insurance so if someone who gets their house broken into they should be denied protection or if their house were to be on fire, the Fire Department should skip over and let it burn. Your same mentality would have Federal and government employees without healthcare. I digress, but the government can and will do things correctly.
You would rather have Laura agonize and wither in pain simply because she can`t afford medical care? A service that could EASILY be taken care of if we spent just a fraction less on Bombs, Guns and Hummers?
Your ignorance is overabundant you knuckle dragging dolt.
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Look you buffoon,
You are not capable of rational thought. You probably think you should have Police Insurance or Fire Insurance so if someone who gets their house broken into they should be denied protection or if their house were to be on fire, the Fire Department should skip over and let it burn. Your same mentality would have Federal and government employees without healthcare. I digress, but the government can and will do things correctly.
You would rather have Laura agonize and wither in pain simply because she can`t afford medical care? A service that could EASILY be taken care of if we spent just a fraction less on Bombs, Guns and Hummers?
Your ignorance is overabundant you knuckle dragging dolt.
Naught to do with Laura
But MANY of you here
Go without medical insurance
And spend more on your lifting lifstyles
and go without such important insurance
when that is nuts
I pay for my own, and have for 18 years, its paid for hundreds of thousands in claims I have had...without it, I'd be without home or future
remember, I do not complain, like folks like Adonis...I Act,a dn Care for myself
Lay off the extra whey prtien and other lifting and bb bs, esp if you are without med insurance
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You and Adonis are ruining the thread with idiocy.....knock it off or bring to the political board. You and you fucking liberals....all you want to do is depend on the government for everything.
Laura, My heart goes out to you, Mike and your kids. My prayers are with you.
Just to add Roach,
Published on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 by Reuters
Doctors Support Universal Health Care: Survey
by Maggie Fox
WASHINGTON - More than half of U.S. doctors now favor switching to a national health care plan and fewer than a third oppose the idea, according to a survey published on Monday.
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/04/01/8018/
The DOCTORS Want Universal Healthcare Overwhelmingly. They deserve it certainly for all of their hard work.
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Look you buffoon,
You are not capable of rational thought. You probably think you should have Police Insurance or Fire Insurance so if someone who gets their house broken into they should be denied protection or if their house were to be on fire, the Fire Department should skip over and let it burn. Your same mentality would have Federal and government employees without healthcare. I digress, but the government can and will do things correctly.
You would rather have Laura agonize and wither in pain simply because she can`t afford medical care? A service that could EASILY be taken care of if we spent just a fraction less on Bombs, Guns and Hummers?
Your ignorance is overabundant you knuckle dragging dolt.
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Stay positive Laura and I wish you guys the best.
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Naught to do with Laura
But MANY of you here
Go without medical insurance
And spend more on your lifting lifstyles
and go without such important insurance
when that is nuts
I pay for my own, and have for 18 years, its paid for hundreds of thousands in claims I have had...without it, I'd be without home or future
remember, I do not complain, like folks like Adonis...I Act,a dn Care for myself
Lay off the extra whey prtien and other lifting and bb bs, esp if you are without med insurance
If given the option of both Universal Healthcare and Private would many people still pay?
People only pay because they are FORCED to. There is no other option. YOU SHOULD BE COMPLAINING! You are paying more for health insurance and medical costs because of the current bloated system! You are paying MORE now for the same care that you would get under HR 676.
Doesn`t make sense does it?
I think people like you would just be upset simply because once Universal Healthcare would hit, you`d feel so stupid for paying nonsense costs for 18 years. You`d hate to know that you wasted so much money.
Either way, Universal Healthcare would be cheaper on you Moosejay for the same level of care. The care in fact would be better as you could CHOOSE which doctor to go to. Also, we keep the private option available for the holdouts who still want to waste money. So I don`t see how anyone loses out.
Think, do we REALLY need those extra 100 Nuclear warheads or would you rather insure 300 million people? Which is better for the country I ask you?
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sorry to hear, just hang in there. You will be ok :)
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Best of Luck Laura........ If there is anything I can do, please let me know.
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:'(
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If given the option of both Universal Healthcare and Private would many people still pay?
People only pay because they are FORCED to. There is no other option. YOU SHOULD BE COMPLAINING! You are paying more for health insurance and medical costs because of the current bloated system! You are paying MORE now for the same care that you would get under HR 676.
Doesn`t make sense does it?
I think people like you would just be upset simply because once Universal Healthcare would hit, you`d feel so stupid for paying nonsense costs for 18 years. You`d hate to know that you wasted so much money.
Either way, Universal Healthcare would be cheaper on you Moosejay for the same level of care. The care in fact would be better as you could CHOOSE which doctor to go to. Also, we keep the private option available for the holdouts who still want to waste money. So I don`t see how anyone loses out.
Think, do we REALLY need those extra 100 Nuclear warheads or would you rather insure 300 million people? Which is better for the country I ask you?
I totally agree Adonis..The current system here in the states is broken...We need to be like other civilized nations around the globe..
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I will say a prayer for you and I hope you recover quickly.
Chris
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Yeah best of luck, keeping a positive optimistic attitude increases your ability and ease of recovery.
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I totally agree Adonis..The current system here in the states is broken...We need to be like other civilized nations around the globe..
Well, depending on what type of cancer one has, the European model would certainly not be the best pick. Cancer survival rates for colon cancer, amongst others is quite a bit lower than it is in the US. Health care in Europe is rationed, so it isn't the be all and end all.
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Well, depending on what type of cancer one has, the European model would certainly not be the best pick. Cancer survival rates for colon cancer, amongst others is quite a bit lower than it is in the US. Health care in Europe is rationed, so it isn't the be all and end all.
Norway, Sweden, and Finland are all at the VERY TOP of survival rate for colon cancer, ahead of the United States and ALL have UNIVERSAL Healthcare.
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Well, depending on what type of cancer one has, the European model would certainly not be the best pick. Cancer survival rates for colon cancer, amongst others is quite a bit lower than it is in the US. Health care in Europe is rationed, so it isn't the be all and end all.
Plus, the survival rate has nothing to do with the quality of healthcare. If you read the Verdecchia study, it has to do with early detection and an aware population and not quality.
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Thank you everyone...and even you Pollux. You might not have said anything nice, but you took the time to read the thread and add your own "spice". I definitely appreciate all the support and well wishes from everyone. We always hear the word cancer spoken..sometimes we hear it daily and it doesn't quite effect you until you hear it as it pertains to someone you know (maybe even just on a message board). That same word spoken to you about you by a doctor becomes quite deafening. It really makes you look at things quite differently. I told another getbigger tonight that even though I don't know everyone that I speak to on this board when I come on here ... I feel like I'm hanging with friends ... and that helps. So even though we all do poke fun at each other (some more than others ;)) I want to thank you all for being there to make me laugh and even meltdown once in a while.
Bast, you are right. Most thyroid cancers are curable. My situation is a bit more complex though unfortunately. I've had these nodules on my thyroid now for almost 4 years, who knows how long I've had cancer in them as they were never biopsied in the past. I also have an auto-immune disease and have had enlarged lymph nodes in my chest for 7 months now, while they were concentrating on thinking it was the Sarcoidosis that made them enlarged. The treatment they have me on for the Sarcoid didn't help the lymph nodes decrease in size. Believe me, I am praying every second that when they get in there (chest) everything is clean as a whistle and they pull out the diseased thyroid, give me my treatments after the surgery and say "you're good as gold". But if not...then I plan on fighting my ass off.
Keep us posted!
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Norway, Sweden, and Finland are all at the VERY TOP of survival rate for colon cancer, ahead of the United States and ALL have UNIVERSAL Healthcare.
Debussey must say that Norwegian healthcare for the most part = very good.
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Good luck Laura.
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Good luck Laura.
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I wish you and mike all the best.
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Yes Norway,Sweden,Finland...all have great universal helthcare systems.
Populations
Norway - 4.6 Million
Sweden - 9 Million
Finland - 5.2 Million
United States - 300+ Million
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Laura,
I have been dealing with sarcoid for the past 5 years and had an open lung biopsy about 4 years ago.
Do not be afraid. It sounds scary when they talk about collapsing a lung, but I was only in the hospital for 1 night, then recovering on vicoden for a week. Be careful with the vicoden.
I was only left with 2 small scars on my back, which look like old wounds from a knife fight. Better than tattoo’s. I had a great surgeon.
Get some good sunglasses. Prednisone and sarc will make your eyes super sensitive.
I am doing fine, and I am still the biggest threat to my own health.
FPT
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Plus, the survival rate has nothing to do with the quality of healthcare. If you read the Verdecchia study, it has to do with early detection and an aware population and not quality.
Prevention is always preferable to treatment, which in the U.S. system usually means catastrophic (read: ultra expensive) treatment. I do fear the rationing that that socialized medicine would bring, wait times for necessary diagnostic regimes and tests etc. If I need a heart scan I sure don't want to be on a 1-6 month waiting list. Plus, with the population of the U.S. and all of the illegal immigrants that would be sucking off the system, one could only imagine the trouble.
Another thing, I don't like the fact that unhealthy people who drink, smoke, do drugs, get no exercise and eat McDonalds every day would pay just as much as me. So, they get the same healthcare but have no reason to change their lifestyle and behavior, which means those that keep themselves healthy then have really no reason to stay healthy.
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Prevention is always preferable to treatment, which in the U.S. system usually means catastrophic (read: ultra expensive) treatment. I do fear the rationing that that socialized medicine would bring, wait times for necessary diagnostic regimes and tests etc. If I need a heart scan I sure don't want to be on a 1-6 month waiting list. Plus, with the population of the U.S. and all of the illegal immigrants that would be sucking off the system, one could only imagine the trouble.
Another thing, I don't like the fact that unhealthy people who drink, smoke, do drugs, get no exercise and eat McDonalds every day would pay just as much as me. So, they get the same healthcare but have no reason to change their lifestyle and behavior, which means those that keep themselves healthy then have really no reason to stay healthy.
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Huge point.
You are a product of your actions.
Why pay for the actions of others?
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I just want to say that Laura and Mike will be in my prayers and I wish you guys the best through this.
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I hope you will get better Laura !
:-*
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Look you buffoon,
You are not capable of rational thought. You probably think you should have Police Insurance or Fire Insurance so if someone who gets their house broken into they should be denied protection or if their house were to be on fire, the Fire Department should skip over and let it burn. Your same mentality would have Federal and government employees without healthcare. I digress, but the government can and will do things correctly.
You would rather have Laura agonize and wither in pain simply because she can`t afford medical care? A service that could EASILY be taken care of if we spent just a fraction less on Bombs, Guns and Hummers?
Your ignorance is overabundant you knuckle dragging dolt.
This reads 100% correct. Good post dude.
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Huge point.
You are a product of your actions.
Why pay for the actions of others?
Terrible argument. 1: Disease can be inherited. 2: People act on incomplete information all the time, thus they do not always act in the best interest of their health even though they believe so. 3: Your argument does not apply very well to young people.
Given your reasoning, a 12 year old with cancer (inherited or not) or another terrible disease coming from a poor family that can not afford health insurance is a product of his own actions. Go figure ::) (And please don't come with the "it's his parents responsibility" argument..)
The only real application for your argument is for self destructive fatties like Vince Basile, smokers and other reckless people, that is understandable. But your argument fails terribly at discrediting socialized healthcare, and it is really contains retarded reasoning.
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Laura,
Your type cancer luckily is not fatal and won`t be so don`t worry at all that your mortality is at stake. Focus instead on the recovery afterwards and look ahead. Make sure you also get second opinions.
Also, if you can`t afford care, please sign up for Medicaid and also visit various non-profit cancer sites. They will always help you out. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE take a minute to send and sign this: www.HR676.org or http://www.michaelmoore.com/sicko/what-can-i-do/petitions/pnum649.php
The bill is HR 676, single payer Universal HealthCare for all. Nobody in America should die or get second class treatment simply because they can`t afford it. I urge you Laura to send this to all of your friends and to sign it.
very nice post of you Adonis
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All my strong wish and spirits power to you.
Just believe in your desteny and stay confident.
Not only Mike, But also our spirits are with you!
Especialy mines are HUGE!
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My best wishes and prayers to Laura.
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Laura,
Your type cancer luckily is not fatal and won`t be so don`t worry at all that your mortality is at stake. Focus instead on the recovery afterwards and look ahead. Make sure you also get second opinions.
Also, if you can`t afford care, please sign up for Medicaid and also visit various non-profit cancer sites. They will always help you out. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE take a minute to send and sign this: www.HR676.org or http://www.michaelmoore.com/sicko/what-can-i-do/petitions/pnum649.php
The bill is HR 676, single payer Universal HealthCare for all. Nobody in America should die or get second class treatment simply because they can`t afford it. I urge you Laura to send this to all of your friends and to sign it.
WOW! Adam ,very nice ! I'm stunned ! You always come across as a selfish individual .You do have a kinder side .. Awesome of you brotha. Laura..I'm sorry to hear this ..I wish you al the luck and strength to beat this .. You are a dynamite lady ,and Mike is a gentleman..Both of you ,are in my prayers.
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you will make it
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Terrible argument. 1: Disease can be inherited. 2: People act on incomplete information all the time, thus they do not always act in the best interest of their health even though they believe so. 3: Your argument does not apply very well to young people.
Given your reasoning, a 12 year old with cancer (inherited or not) or another terrible disease coming from a poor family that can not afford health insurance is a product of his own actions. Go figure ::) (And please don't come with the "it's his parents responsibility" argument..)
The only real application for your argument is for self destructive fatties like Vince Basile, smokers and other reckless people, that is understandable. But your argument fails terribly at discrediting socialized healthcare, and it is really contains retarded reasoning.
That's what I was referring too. I know genetic factors and inherited diseases aren't a product of someones actions. I was talking about those who are willfully reckless. Smoke, eating, drinking, drugs and other dangerous behavior, this should be taken into account. If I don't smoke, eat right, have a solid physical, bloodtests, liver enzyme counts etc, I should be rewarded for that. This would also provide economic incentive for people to take better care of themselves which in-turn is good for the nation as a whole.
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That's what I was referring too. I know genetic factors and inherited diseases aren't a product of someones actions. I was talking about those who are willfully reckless. Smoke, eating, drinking, drugs and other dangerous behavior, this should be taken into account. If I don't smoke, eat right, have a solid physical, bloodtests, liver enzyme counts etc, I should be rewarded for that. This would also provide economic incentive for people to take better care of themselves which in-turn is good for the nation as a whole.
Debussey did not adress its post to you, but to Moosejays stupidity. Good post btw :D
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Debussey did not adress its post to you, but to Moosejays stupidity. Good post btw :D
Ok. Moosejay seemed to misunderstand my post and I didn't want to be lumped in with him.
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Hope you get well soon Laura :)
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My prayers and well-wishes are with you too.
I have a 21 year old cousin fighting cancer as well.
Even while many getbiggers flame each other, at times of actaul tragedy with one of our own we all share the grief.
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My prayers and well-wishes are with you too.
I have a 21 year old cousin fighting cancer as well.
Even while many getbiggers flame each other, at times of actaul tragedy with one of our own we all share the grief.
good point, good to see Vince basile has offered his support.....NOT...old jerkoff, maybe if laura was fat and 9 years old he would shower her with love
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Laura, you are strong like bull!! You've proven that lots. Fight this shit head on.
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Get well soon Laura :)
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Look you buffoon,
You are not capable of rational thought. You probably think you should have Police Insurance or Fire Insurance so if someone who gets their house broken into they should be denied protection or if their house were to be on fire, the Fire Department should skip over and let it burn. Your same mentality would have Federal and government employees without healthcare. I digress, but the government can and will do things correctly.
You would rather have Laura agonize and wither in pain simply because she can`t afford medical care? A service that could EASILY be taken care of if we spent just a fraction less on Bombs, Guns and Hummers?
Your ignorance is overabundant you knuckle dragging dolt.
Good fucking post man, people like Coach just dont get it...but, maybe this isnt the best time to discuss those matters
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Thanks everyone. Tonight's going to be a tough night. I'm sure I'm not going to sleep well. I find out when, where and how everything is going down. :-\
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Thanks everyone. Tonight's going to be a tough night. I'm sure I'm not going to sleep well. I find out when, where and how everything is going down. :-\
i hope u feel and get better young lady,and u got a good man behind u thats more than any medicine can give you.but the medicine isn't too bad either,stay well..
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Huge point.
You are a product of your actions.
Why pay for the actions of others?
When the american government can either hide, steal or lose trillions of dollars a year and very few people even bat an eye about it, don't you think that we as a civilized people can make sure that all people have basic rights to food, shelter and medical that can save lives?...
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sorry to hear about your health,god will heal you up just keep the faith,youll beat that sickness
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sorry to hear about your health,god will heal you up just keep the faith,youll beat that sickness
Whoa!!! Where you been dude?? You get lost in the forrest ;D
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im glad to be back,i was away at club fed for awhile.lol
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im glad to be back,i was away at club fed for awhile.lol
Good to have you back big fella!
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AAAwhhh Hope all goes well Laura Lee. Im pulling for you. Stay strong.
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fingers crossed
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Hi everyone. I went to the thyroid surgeons today as you guys know. Came home not feeling well. He had to spray stuff into my nose and throat so he could slide a camera down to my voice box from my nose. That stuff, plus the medication that i took for the anxiety and all the collected information I received regarding what's going on made me very nauseous. Then I had to drive up to the hospital that I had my CAT Csans done and pick up the images and reports for both surgeons to review (they want to review the chest lymph nodes in the film). The surgeon I saw today is going to call the thoracic surgeon and organize the plan. The plan thus far (as explained to me by this surgeon) is that he will go in through a 6" slice in the fold of my neck and remove the thyroid and lymph nodes in my neck and send them off to the lab for testing (this will decipher how much radioactive treatment I will need after the surgery). He explained the risks of damaging my parathyroid glands (if damaged I would be on high dosages of calcium for the rest of my life..not that bad) and the nerves in my neck that control your voice, swallowing and breathing. He also explained the risk of coming out with a tracheotomy if the nerves are torn or cut which can happen (niiiiiice :-\). He then said after the removal of the thyroid and lymph nodes in my neck, the thoracic surgeon would then go through his opening and down behind my breast bone to collect some lymph nodes from my chest for the biopsy. If there are any complications from that (say the surgeon can get to the nodes, or he does get to them and they come back from the lab and show cancer) my chest would need to be cut open, but is hoping it won't be the case.
So, as it stands right now, this surgeon wants to do this asap, so he's calling the thoracic today. I will see the thoracic on Thursday and will most likely he will tell me (after speaking with the surgeon I saw today) what day I'm going in.
Needless to say, I am a nervous wreck and not thinking very well. So please excuse me for any typos or if something doesn't make any sense. I just want this to be done and over and everything good again. :'(
Thanks again for all your thoughts and prayers. They do help. :-*
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Hi everyone. I went to the thyroid surgeons today as you guys know. Came home not feeling well. He had to spray stuff into my nose and throat so he could slide a camera down to my voice box from my nose. That stuff, plus the medication that i took for the anxiety and all the collected information I received regarding what's going on made me very nauseous. Then I had to drive up to the hospital that I had my CAT Csans done and pick up the images and reports for both surgeons to review (they want to review the chest lymph nodes in the film). The surgeon I saw today is going to call the thoracic surgeon and organize the plan. The plan thus far (as explained to me by this surgeon) is that he will go in through a 6" slice in the fold of my neck and remove the thyroid and lymph nodes in my neck and send them off to the lab for testing (this will decipher how much radioactive treatment I will need after the surgery). He explained the risks of damaging my parathyroid glands (if damaged I would be on high dosages of calcium for the rest of my life..not that bad) and the nerves in my neck that control your voice, swallowing and breathing. He also explained the risk of coming out with a tracheotomy if the nerves are torn or cut which can happen (niiiiiice :-\). He then said after the removal of the thyroid and lymph nodes in my neck, the thoracic surgeon would then go through his opening and down behind my breast bone to collect some lymph nodes from my chest for the biopsy. If there are any complications from that (say the surgeon can get to the nodes, or he does get to them and they come back from the lab and show cancer) my chest would need to be cut open, but is hoping it won't be the case.
So, as it stands right now, this surgeon wants to do this asap, so he's calling the thoracic today. I will see the thoracic on Thursday and will most likely he will tell me (after speaking with the surgeon I saw today) what day I'm going in.
Needless to say, I am a nervous wreck and not thinking very well. So please excuse me for any typos or if something doesn't make any sense. I just want this to be done and over and everything good again. :'(
Thanks again for all your thoughts and prayers. They do help. :-*
thank you for filling us in, Laura. I'm sure they caught this soon enough, and after they remove it there will be NOTHING left. Get your rest! ;)
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Hi everyone. I went to the thyroid surgeons today as you guys know. Came home not feeling well. He had to spray stuff into my nose and throat so he could slide a camera down to my voice box from my nose. That stuff, plus the medication that i took for the anxiety and all the collected information I received regarding what's going on made me very nauseous. Then I had to drive up to the hospital that I had my CAT Csans done and pick up the images and reports for both surgeons to review (they want to review the chest lymph nodes in the film). The surgeon I saw today is going to call the thoracic surgeon and organize the plan. The plan thus far (as explained to me by this surgeon) is that he will go in through a 6" slice in the fold of my neck and remove the thyroid and lymph nodes in my neck and send them off to the lab for testing (this will decipher how much radioactive treatment I will need after the surgery). He explained the risks of damaging my parathyroid glands (if damaged I would be on high dosages of calcium for the rest of my life..not that bad) and the nerves in my neck that control your voice, swallowing and breathing. He also explained the risk of coming out with a tracheotomy if the nerves are torn or cut which can happen (niiiiiice :-\). He then said after the removal of the thyroid and lymph nodes in my neck, the thoracic surgeon would then go through his opening and down behind my breast bone to collect some lymph nodes from my chest for the biopsy. If there are any complications from that (say the surgeon can get to the nodes, or he does get to them and they come back from the lab and show cancer) my chest would need to be cut open, but is hoping it won't be the case.
So, as it stands right now, this surgeon wants to do this asap, so he's calling the thoracic today. I will see the thoracic on Thursday and will most likely he will tell me (after speaking with the surgeon I saw today) what day I'm going in.
Needless to say, I am a nervous wreck and not thinking very well. So please excuse me for any typos or if something doesn't make any sense. I just want this to be done and over and everything good again. :'(
Thanks again for all your thoughts and prayers. They do help. :-*
I am really sorry that you're having to go through all of this. Even though I've never met you, I feel like I kind of know you and Mike from this site. I live fairly close to you guys, so if one day you need an errand run or something like that, let me know.
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I am really sorry that you're having to go through all of this. Even though I've never met you, I feel like I kind of know you and Mike from this site. I live fairly close to you guys, so if one day you need an errand run or something like that, let me know.
Thanks Chemist. I appreciate that. Make sure you swing by the gym sometime and say hi to Marty V too.
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Well, people who have life threatening diseases or conditions will usually get their hospital bills waived even if they don't have insurance. Nobody just contracts cancer and dies because they can't get care. This simply does not happen in the United States. ::)
Universal health care for 300 million people would be a disaster and would mean increased taxes. We've already got a huge national debt to wipe away and universal healthcare on top of that would be absolute murder.
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The people acting as though people in the US are dying because they're left for dead due to not having insurance don't obviously know what's going on. We already have cheap/free insurance for most poor folks in New York state. Like a visit to the doctor requires a $5 co-pay, and additional $5 for any medication. You telling me a person cannot pay $5? ::)
So shut the fuck up about some hypothetical poor kid contracting cancer and dying because he couldn't get care.
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Thanks Chemist. I appreciate that. Make sure you swing by the gym sometime and say hi to Marty V too.
Definitely.
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So there's a chance you could lose your voice!? I just know there's a joke there, somewhere. :D
/hang tough kiddo. we're all pulling for you!
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Wow Laura I feel so bad for you guys with what you're going thru. Prayers with you guys.
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So there's a chance you could lose your voice!? I just know there's a joke there, somewhere. :D
/hang tough kiddo. we're all pulling for you!
Lol, Mike said the same thing. :)
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Thanks for the update Laura and I seriously hope and think you will come through all this okay.
There isn't enough females left on getbig for us to lose one, so don't you dare ;)
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Hi everyone. I went to the thyroid surgeons today as you guys know. Came home not feeling well. He had to spray stuff into my nose and throat so he could slide a camera down to my voice box from my nose. That stuff, plus the medication that i took for the anxiety and all the collected information I received regarding what's going on made me very nauseous. Then I had to drive up to the hospital that I had my CAT Csans done and pick up the images and reports for both surgeons to review (they want to review the chest lymph nodes in the film). The surgeon I saw today is going to call the thoracic surgeon and organize the plan. The plan thus far (as explained to me by this surgeon) is that he will go in through a 6" slice in the fold of my neck and remove the thyroid and lymph nodes in my neck and send them off to the lab for testing (this will decipher how much radioactive treatment I will need after the surgery). He explained the risks of damaging my parathyroid glands (if damaged I would be on high dosages of calcium for the rest of my life..not that bad) and the nerves in my neck that control your voice, swallowing and breathing. He also explained the risk of coming out with a tracheotomy if the nerves are torn or cut which can happen (niiiiiice :-\). He then said after the removal of the thyroid and lymph nodes in my neck, the thoracic surgeon would then go through his opening and down behind my breast bone to collect some lymph nodes from my chest for the biopsy. If there are any complications from that (say the surgeon can get to the nodes, or he does get to them and they come back from the lab and show cancer) my chest would need to be cut open, but is hoping it won't be the case.
So, as it stands right now, this surgeon wants to do this asap, so he's calling the thoracic today. I will see the thoracic on Thursday and will most likely he will tell me (after speaking with the surgeon I saw today) what day I'm going in.
Needless to say, I am a nervous wreck and not thinking very well. So please excuse me for any typos or if something doesn't make any sense. I just want this to be done and over and everything good again. :'(
Thanks again for all your thoughts and prayers. They do help. :-*
Keep your head up Laura.. Do whatever you have to do to get well..I wish you a speedy recovery..
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Laura, you are strong like bull!! You've proven that lots. Fight this shit head on.
I bet you're a big fan of NLP.
Stand strong, Laura.
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I bet you're a big fan of NLP.
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get well soon
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There is a banner ad asking to support Laura Lee on www.dweetir.com. Support her for what? Also, when you click on the banner it has this email address: cheri.lane@comcast.net.
(http://www.dweetir.com/LauraLee1.jpg)
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i think she's sick or something dont know any details
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I think she is sick. I am assuming she doesn't have health insurance. I am thinking of having a talk with Mike about finally getting a job, but it's not that serious yet.
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There is a banner ad asking to support Laura Lee on www.dweetir.com. Support her for what? Also, when you click on the banner it has this email address: cheri.lane@comcast.net. Cheri Lane is the gimmik account that used to stick up for Arvilla in the old Arvilla roast thread. Anyone care to expalin???
(http://www.dweetir.com/LauraLee1.jpg)
She's very ill, look through her post history.
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I'm sorry to hear that....
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I am more perplexed as to why Tom Cruise lets Katie Holmes wear heels when they go out together...
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cheri lane is laura lee, just changed her name to her real name.
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cheri lane is laura lee, just changed her name to her real name.
Never-mind, I confused Cheri Lane with the other chick that used to stick up for mike....forgot her name already.
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Never-mind, I confused Cheri Lane with the other chick that used to stick up for mike....forgot her name already.
Shouldn't this thread be deleted then? :-\
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Shouldn't this thread be deleted then? :-\
No, we still don't know what's up with the donation request....
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Hey shes sick, she needs help with medical bills, donate if you want, Dont if you dont want..easy...
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There is a banner ad asking to support Laura Lee on www.dweetir.com. Support her for what? Also, when you click on the banner it has this email address: cheri.lane@comcast.net. Cheri Lane is the gimmik account that used to stick up for Arvilla in the old Arvilla roast thread. Anyone care to expalin???
(http://www.dweetir.com/LauraLee1.jpg)
wow we need new mods way to be competely out of touch
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No, we still don't know what's up with the donation request....
She was diagnosed with thyroid cancer...and if I'm not mistaken she's going "under the knife" for a thyroidectomy TODAY
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I just sent 50$.
I have a feeling it's a scam. Paypal said they received several complaints.
Maybe J-Boy/JediKnight will explain.
It's not a scam, the donations go directly to Laura, I have nothing to do with it. Paypal had NO problems. If you really sent $50, then we can check with Mike and Laura later, and if you did, that was a nice gesture. By the way, I am not J-Boy. What are you talking about?
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There is a banner ad asking to support Laura Lee on www.dweetir.com. Support her for what? Also, when you click on the banner it has this email address: cheri.lane@comcast.net.
(http://www.dweetir.com/LauraLee1.jpg)
Laura's looking pretty hot in that pic. Here's wishing her a speedy recovery. Cancer's no joke.
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Laura's looking pretty hot in that pic. Here's wishing her a speedy recovery. Cancer's no joke.
Here's a picture that Mike just posted of Laura's scar from today's surgery.
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Mindspin thats cold ???
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Here's a picture that Mike just posted of Laura's scar from today's surgery.
So it went successfully?
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So it went successfully?
Yes it did. I told Laura to post here how she is. She's in a ton of pain but everything went successfully.
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Yes it did. I told Laura to post here how she is. She's in a ton of pain but everything went successfully.
Can you clarify that the donations on http://www.dweetir.com/ are real and what they will be used for?
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vineager and baking soda have been proven to cure cases of cancer, its all over google she should try it. its a BIG BUISNESS and Media HYPE MACHINE that says cancer is uncurable
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Can you clarify that the donations on http://www.dweetir.com/ are real and what they will be used for?
The donations go to directly to Laura (Cheri Lane). Thats her paypal address. She can use the donations for anything she wants. I have no control or say in it. Just doing a good thing for a nice person. I would do the same for you if something happened. 240 set it up. It's legit man.
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The donations go to directly to Laura (Cheri Lane). Thats her paypal address. She can use the donations for anything she wants. I have no control or say in it. Just doing a good thing for a nice person. I would do the same for you if something happened. 240 set it up. It's legit man.
You guys Are true supporter. I'll rally to get donation and donate myself.
Anything to help Laura go thru this easily.
getbig = put to a good usage for the first time in internet history.
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Can you clarify that the donations on http://www.dweetir.com/ are real and what they will be used for?
If you donate, it goes into the paypal account that mike and laura have been using for 3+ years.
Good to hear the surgery was a success. Scary as hell.
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You guys Are true supporter. I'll rally to get donation and donate myself.
Anything to help Laura go thru this easily.
getbig = put to a good usage for the first time in internet history.
Didn't you already donate $50 dollars, you said that earlier.
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You guys Are true supporter. I'll rally to get donation and donate myself.
Anything to help Laura go thru this easily.
getbig = put to a good usage for the first time in internet history.
tru dat
real life is scarey shit :-\
I've been through some tough times lately but this kinda puts my little problems in perspective
God speed to Laura
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The donations go to directly to Laura (Cheri Lane). Thats her paypal address. She can use the donations for anything she wants. I have no control or say in it. Just doing a good thing for a nice person. I would do the same for you if something happened. 240 set it up. It's legit man.
concur. I built mike and laura's site a few years back. I built dweetir.com. I built the button at dweetir's request, and with confimation from laura that it was acceptable, and with the ppall info she sent me.
Neither I nor Dweetir have any access to any $ or any financial info - that's laura's business.
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Hi everyone. the surgery went well. they removed the cancer ridden thyroid and lymph nodes in my neck. the lymph nodes in my chest that where biopsied came out cancer free! :) they do have the sarcoidosis though. as u can see from the pic, i have a 4" incision across my neck, and a drainage tube though another incision below. the tube will come out on friday. i have to cange the bulb by myself....so disgistiong. but anyway...just thought i would let u all know. im gonna go to sleep now as the diloton is kickin mybutt.
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Hi everyone. the surgery went well. they removed the cancer ridden thyroid and lymph nodes in my neck. the lymph nodes in my chest that where biopsied came out cancer free! :) they do have the sarcoidosis though. as u can see from the pic, i have a 4" incision across my neck, and a drainage tube though another incision below. the tube will come out on friday. i have to cange the bulb by myself....so disgistiong. but anyway...just thought i would let u all know. im gonna go to sleep now as the diloton is kickin mybutt.
that is awesome news. very good news. Youre going to wake up tomorrow and appreciate the day more than anyone else on getbig, tha'ts for sure.
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the lymph nodes in my chest that where biopsied came out cancer free! :)
BOOOOOOOOM!!!
That's all I wanted to see ;)
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BOOOOOOOOM!!!
That's all I wanted to see ;)
Excellent, THank God for that.. :)
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Didn't you already donate $50 dollars, you said that earlier.
yes I did...
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Hi everyone. the surgery went well. they removed the cancer ridden thyroid and lymph nodes in my neck. the lymph nodes in my chest that where biopsied came out cancer free! :) they do have the sarcoidosis though. as u can see from the pic, i have a 4" incision across my neck, and a drainage tube though another incision below. the tube will come out on friday. i have to cange the bulb by myself....so disgistiong. but anyway...just thought i would let u all know. im gonna go to sleep now as the diloton is kickin mybutt.
Good to hear, stay strong ;)
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Laura great news. Prayers and God do help :)
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Laura great news. Prayers and God do help :)
you are such a jackass The Coach
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Hi everyone. the surgery went well. they removed the cancer ridden thyroid and lymph nodes in my neck. the lymph nodes in my chest that where biopsied came out cancer free! :) they do have the sarcoidosis though. as u can see from the pic, i have a 4" incision across my neck, and a drainage tube though another incision below. the tube will come out on friday. i have to cange the bulb by myself....so disgistiong. but anyway...just thought i would let u all know. im gonna go to sleep now as the diloton is kickin mybutt.
Thank god! That's awesome news!
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rest and recover well, Laura... I'll wish for the best!
SM
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Great news. 8)
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That's great news Laura.
I heard Mike blew the surgeon so he'd do an extra good job. ;)
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Hi everyone. the surgery went well. they removed the cancer ridden thyroid and lymph nodes in my neck. the lymph nodes in my chest that where biopsied came out cancer free! :) they do have the sarcoidosis though. as u can see from the pic, i have a 4" incision across my neck, and a drainage tube though another incision below. the tube will come out on friday. i have to cange the bulb by myself....so disgistiong. but anyway...just thought i would let u all know. im gonna go to sleep now as the diloton is kickin mybutt.
You will recover!!!
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Good morning everyone. im still here at hosp. didnt sleep much...pain and have to sleep upright which is so uncomfortable. but my calcium level looks good so i can go home today. drainage tube comes out friday. i will have iodine radiation next week and put on my meds after that. thank u all for all ur prayers, support and well wishes. they truly helped and i am so grateful.
240 ur right, i look at the world completely differently and hope i continue to look though the same window always and not get caught up in all the bad like i did before.
my love and appreciation to you all.
xoxo
Laura (cheri lane for yemini)
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the lymph nodes in my chest that where biopsied came out cancer free! :)
Thank God!! :)
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Great news Laura!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm glad to hear you got through your surgery ok. Thanks for letting us know how you're doing.
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Good to hear. Please take full advantage of the captive Getbig audience for your all rehabilitation needs. I mean, why let Moosejay monopolize it? :)
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I just wanted to take a moment to thank Alex and 240 for their generous donations. I really appreciate it and it will definitely help pay for the co-pays. Yes, I have health insurance but even at only paying 10% of my bills. Just the surgical cost for the ent surgeon was $120,000 (not including any hospital costs, lab costs, anesthesiologist and other surgeon). They (the ent's office) had called the day before to tell me I owed $1,200 for my co-pay. I can't even imagine being a person without insurance and having to pay such a bill to live.
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Was glad to help in any way Laura; it was more symbolic than anything; trying to pull some positive energy your way.
Seems like it worked :)
God Speed to recovery !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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pretty crazy
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I got these today from my getbig dweetir buddies. :D
Thank you so much...to everyone who cared enough to wish me well, said a prayer, offered of themselves and opened their hearts to me.
I am deeply touched and will be forever thankful.
Love,
Laura
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I just wanted to take a moment to thank Alex and 240 for their generous donations. I really appreciate it and it will definitely help pay for the co-pays. Yes, I have health insurance but even at only paying 10% of my bills. Just the surgical cost for the ent surgeon was $120,000 (not including any hospital costs, lab costs, anesthesiologist and other surgeon). They (the ent's office) had called the day before to tell me I owed $1,200 for my co-pay. I can't even imagine being a person without insurance and having to pay such a bill to live.
Ok i dont understand, in OZ medical is free."Medicare" so u paid $1,200, is that all, or do u owe $120,000.
i know dumb question, i dont know how it works in the US.
In Oz, if someone has a operation its no charge...
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Ok i dont understand, in OZ medical is free."Medicare" so u paid $1,200, is that all, or do u owe $120,000.
i know dumb question, i dont know how it works in the US.
In Oz, if someone has a operation its no charge...
This is how it works in the US:
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
any questions?
Don't get me started on pharmaceutical companies advertising DIRECTLY to the patients >:( >:( >:(
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This is how it works in the US:
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
any questions?
Don't get me started on pharmaceutical companies advertising DIRECTLY to the patients >:( >:( >:(
so does she owe $120g's or just 10% of it cause she has insurance?
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so does she owe $120g's or just 10% of it cause she has insurance?
I think she said 10% because she has insurance, and if she didn't...it would've been 100%
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I think she said 10% because she has insurance, and if she didn't...it would've been 100%
Wow, in Australia, its free. the government covers it 100%
we pay for medicine but there is a rebate sometimes too
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Wow, in Australia, its free. the government covers it 100%
we pay for medicine but there is a rebate sometimes too
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Wow...good stuff! Yeah, somewhere along the line making a profit became more important that keeping everyone healthy. Which is why more money isn't put into "preventative medicine" and trying to keep people OUT of the hospitals. :-\ My, what would pharm companies do then! ;D
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Wow...good stuff! Yeah, somewhere along the line making a profit became more important that keeping everyone healthy. Which is why more money isn't put into "preventative medicine" and trying to keep people OUT of the hospitals. :-\ My, what would pharm companies do then! ;D
Rebates are for pensioners, but in OZ pensioners dont mean old, it means broke, sometimes i take my neighbours card to the pharmacy and medication if i need it, instead of paying $60-$80 with the card you pay $4.70 yep Four dollars and seventy cents.
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Rebates are for pensioners, but in OZ pensioners dont mean old, it means broke, sometimes i take my neighbours card to the pharmacy and medication if i need it, instead of paying $60-$80 with the card you pay $4.70 yep Four dollars and seventy cents.
I'm curious, do you guys have drug commercials on TV going every five minutes over there too? Like trying to sell you drugs for EVERYTHING under the sun?
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I'm curious, do you guys have drug commercials on TV going every five minutes over there too? Like trying to sell you drugs for EVERYTHING under the sun?
nah never, not even viagra commercials
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nah never, not even viagra commercials
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
I can't even imagine it!!! >:( >:( >:(
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I pray for you to have a speedy recovery. :)
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Laura, get well. I wish I could help :(
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Laura, get well. I wish I could help :(
CJ, all the well wishes do help. Thank you. :D
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Hang in there LL you will beat this, no doubt in my mind. Stay strong :-*
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Glad to hear you are ok Laura!
Speedy recovery!
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