hank is on fire lately.
The diet is not zero carb, it is low carb...although very low. In most instances with this diet, you still take in 50g of carbs per day...just enough to fuel your training. On top of that, you have the wkly cheat meal...again, adding in more carbs...more then likely, several 100.i read that you brain needs 50g of glucose a day just to function.
i read that you brain needs 50g of glucose a day just to function.
The diet is not zero carb, it is low carb...although very low. In most instances with this diet, you still take in 50g of carbs per day...just enough to fuel your training. On top of that, you have the wkly cheat meal...again, adding in more carbs...more then likely, several 100.
Declining into a state of ketosis can be near fatal. Thank Christ Palumbo has an understanding of medicine or we could be seeing a lot of very ill clients.
Palumbo actually went to medical school, well that is what he keeps telling everyone!
The diet is not zero carb, it is low carb...although very low. In most instances with this diet, you still take in 50g of carbs per day...just enough to fuel your training. On top of that, you have the wkly cheat meal...again, adding in more carbs...more then likely, several 100.
seems to me one would get very flat on that diet no?first few weeks yes, then u get your pumps back
Palumbo is a genius. Carbs are for pussies.
i read that you brain needs 50g of glucose a day just to function.Your brain can function quite well off of keytone bodies, which you should be producing tons of on a diet that has you getting 50g of carbs per day.
seems to me one would get very flat on that diet no?As compared to if you were eating a lot more carbs, yes. but like Bobby said, after the first few wks it does get better. Plus the day after your cheat meal you should appear much fuller. If you're dieting for a contest, which is how the diet in question was laid out for, how flat you look while dieting does not really matter...all that matters is the show date. In that case you should be fine because you do carb up...only slightly though...it shouldn't take to much since by that time you should have become extremely sensitive to carbs
seems to me one would get very flat on that diet no?And what would be the point of not being flat. Who cares if your flat.
Palumbo's zero carb diet is a health risk to kidney and liver function.
Palumbo's new fad diet has long term health issues;
Zero carb (ketogenic) diets deplete the healthy glycogen stores in your muscles and liver.
Depletion of muscle glycogen causes you to fatigue easily, and makes exercise and movement uncomfortable.
Depletion of muscle glycogen leads to muscle atrophy (loss of muscle)
Loss of muscle causes a decrease in your basal metabolic rate.
Your muscles and skin lack tone and are saggy.
Palumbo is a danger to this so-called sport. To think he has the gumption to call himself a pre-contest guru. He should 'not' have dropped out his medical studies to pursue bodybuilding!
Once again...tell that to the Inuits. The human metabolism is genetically still a 'low carb' one by and large. Grains are a very, very recent addition to the human diet, barely 10,000 years old.Wow, for once I agree with you, except for the 10 000 year thing of course. ;D
Wow, for once I agree with you, except for the 10 000 year thing of course. ;D
::)No, we'll keep that on the religious board. I was agreeing with you that zero carbs isn't that dangerous and many people in the past practice this. It is a true test of will and the fastest way to get lean
You are going to bring Young Earth Creationism into this now?
Palumbo is a genius. Carbs are for pussies.
No, we'll keep that on the religious board. I was agreeing with you that zero carbs isn't that dangerous and many people in the past practice this. It is a true test of will and the fastest way to get lean
Can someone post a link to this diet?
its not meant to do indefinitely.
Can someone post a link to this diet?What are you talking about a link. I can right this diet on a paper towel. It goes like this... unlimited chicken breast, unlimited egg whites.....etc, basically protein foods only and you can add some greens such as broccoli or asparagus. Simple.
If you want to get technocal then driving on the highway is dangerous. Assuming you are doing for contest prep that only last 12 weeks, the no its not dangerous, I never witness anyone get hurt.
Do you have a death wish???
What are you talking about a link. I can right this diet on a paper towel. It goes like this... unlimited chicken breast, unlimited egg whites.....etc, basically protein foods only and you can add some greens such as broccoli or asparagus. Simple.
If you want to get technocal then driving on the highway is dangerous. Assuming you are doing for contest prep that only last 12 weeks, the no its not dangerous, I never witness anyone get hurt.
and technically its not a zero carb diet there r trace carbs in lots of things as it probably adds up to 20-30 carbs daily on averageNo your right, but thats what we call it`: zero carbs``because greens don`t ruin your state of ketosis.
Actually I`ve been throught it many times and right now I`m 10 weeks out, believe me i`ll be fine
Another person with a deathwish. >:( ;D
Snickers, huh ???
Another person with a deathwish. >:( ;D
pussy probably eats pizza and pasta every day.
Declining into a state of ketosis can be near fatal. Thank Christ Palumbo has an understanding of medicine or we could be seeing a lot of very ill clients.
Palumbo actually went to medical school, well that is what he keeps telling everyone!
seems to me one would get very flat on that diet no?
Palumbo's zero carb diet is a health risk to kidney and liver function.
Palumbo's new fad diet has long term health issues;
Zero carb (ketogenic) diets deplete the healthy glycogen stores in your muscles and liver.
Depletion of muscle glycogen causes you to fatigue easily, and makes exercise and movement uncomfortable.
Depletion of muscle glycogen leads to muscle atrophy (loss of muscle)
Loss of muscle causes a decrease in your basal metabolic rate.
Your muscles and skin lack tone and are saggy.
Palumbo is a danger to this so-called sport. To think he has the gumption to call himself a pre-contest guru. He should 'not' have dropped out his medical studies to pursue bodybuilding!
in the protein shakes there are suguars and milk derivateIf you get an isolete with less then 3-4 grams of carbs, its still acceptable
And for those that say that this type of diet is no good for naturals, I did it (although not guided by Dave), ate <40g carbs daily with high protein and moderate fats and I think (for a lanky dude, 6'2" 227 lbs.) I looked pretty decent.
Dave is the pre-contest guru. Can't think of anyone who comes close to him.
Back in the day, Dave was the graniest, driest son a bitch on the bodybuilding planet.
Palumbo knows his shit, he was actually at med school for half a second! He knows the physiology of the body.
Palumbo is a genius. Carbs are for pussies.
Palumbo's zero carb diet is a health risk to kidney and liver function.
Palumbo's new fad diet has long term health issues;
Zero carb (ketogenic) diets deplete the healthy glycogen stores in your muscles and liver.
Depletion of muscle glycogen causes you to fatigue easily, and makes exercise and movement uncomfortable.
Depletion of muscle glycogen leads to muscle atrophy (loss of muscle)
Loss of muscle causes a decrease in your basal metabolic rate.
Your muscles and skin lack tone and are saggy.
Palumbo is a danger to this so-called sport. To think he has the gumption to call himself a pre-contest guru. He should 'not' have dropped out his medical studies to pursue bodybuilding!
Additionally, carbs are of more use when trying to build muscle, and on a contest diet, my goal is to maintain muscle while loosing as much bodyfat as possible.
yes, here i think is where the confusion was.Ya, but the guys that are juiced to the max can't even build muscle while dieting, with the exception of a few, so what on earth makes you think a natural can while losing fat, IMO it can't be done in single digit bodyfat levels.
if a natural person is angling toward building muscle, rather than simply trying to maintain his current muscle while decidedly shedding fat, than the diet probably wouldn't be the greatest idea.
Ya, but the guys that are juiced to the max can't even build muscle while dieting, with the exception of a few, so what on earth makes you think a natural can while losing fat, IMO it can't be done in single digit bodyfat levels.Here's the thing people always miss IMO...nutrients are nutrients, regardless if you're natural or not. Yes, we all know that AAS can increase protein synthesis, AAS can help maintain muscle tissue while in a calorie deficit...but this does not change the nature in which nutrients work....carbs, fats and proteins do not all the sudden become different anomalies because AAS is being taken.
I can't speak as intelligently as some may on this particular topic, BUT, if one is eating @ 40 g carbs daily, that's enough to fuel workouts (along with ketones).
Additionally, carbs are of more use when trying to build muscle, and on a contest diet, my goal is to maintain muscle while loosing as much bodyfat as possible.
The high protein spares muscle be preventing muscle breakdown for amino acids and the fats provide energy as well as helping keep the hormonal profile as advantageous as possible for keping muscle.
Again, I'm no expert, but this is my understnding and it worked wonders for me.
One other thing, with such low carb levels, insulin surges and dips don't become an issue, so I felt the best I ever have on a diet. Not grumpy, not overly fatigued and looked my best.
I can't speak as intelligently as some may on this particular topic, BUT, if one is eating @ 40 g carbs daily, that's enough to fuel workouts (along with ketones).
Additionally, carbs are of more use when trying to build muscle, and on a contest diet, my goal is to maintain muscle while loosing as much bodyfat as possible.
The high protein spares muscle be preventing muscle breakdown for amino acids and the fats provide energy as well as helping keep the hormonal profile as advantageous as possible for keping muscle.
Again, I'm no expert, but this is my understnding and it worked wonders for me.
One other thing, with such low carb levels, insulin surges and dips don't become an issue, so I felt the best I ever have on a diet. Not grumpy, not overly fatigued and looked my best.
Simply put, if you don't eat enough carbs and fats, you'll start to burn muscle.
Simply put, if you don't eat enough carbs and fats, you'll start to burn muscle.
http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/3/1/9
I can't speak as intelligently as some may on this particular topic, BUT, if one is eating @ 40 g carbs daily, that's enough to fuel workouts (along with ketones).
Additionally, carbs are of more use when trying to build muscle, and on a contest diet, my goal is to maintain muscle while losing as much bodyfat as possible.
The high protein spares muscle be preventing muscle breakdown for amino acids and the fats provide energy as well as helping keep the hormonal profile as advantageous as possible for keping muscle.
Again, I'm no expert, but this is my understnding and it worked wonders for me.
One other thing, with such low carb levels, insulin surges and dips don't become an issue, so I felt the best I ever have on a diet. Not grumpy, not overly fatigued and looked my best.
Could Palumbo be onto something with his 'zero carb' diet?
Palumbo has turned conventional medicine on its head with what many describe as a dangerous mix of foolhardiness and out right ignorance.
Palumbo calls those who criticise his diet as ignoramuses.
Palumbo is not interested in listening to the inherent health dangers of his controversial 'zero carb' diet plan.
No, Dave will do what he god damn wants to do!
When I worked with Dave years back, this is diet he had worked out for me:
Meal #1
1) 6 egg whites scrambled with 3 whole eggs..
Meal #2
1) 8-10 oz of skinless chicken breast;
2) 1/4 cup of cashews/almonds
Meal #3
Same as Meal #2
Meal #4
1) Protein Shake (10 carbs/less)
2) 2 Tablespoons of Cashew/Almond butter
Meal #5
1) 8-12oz Steak
2) Salad w/oil & vinegar
** Coffee w/meal #1; water/diet soda w/other meals..
Here's the thing people always miss IMO...nutrients are nutrients, regardless if you're natural or not. Yes, we all know that AAS can increase protein synthesis, AAS can help maintain muscle tissue while in a calorie deficit...but this does not change the nature in which nutrients work....carbs, fats and proteins do not all the sudden become different anomalies because AAS is being taken.100% agree
True, a natural bodybuilder will lose more muscle on this diet...but a natural bodybuilder is going to lose more muscle then an AAS user regardless of the diet he uses.
You may not be an expert, but what you said here is right on the money. Glad to know someone here understands how this all works.
I noticed that I couldn't lift weights or train hard when on very little carbs. I also noticed loss of strength.
How long were you on it?
Did you give it a fair shot, long enough for your body to acclimate to the diet? More than just 2 weeks?
I was quite the opposite.
I'd say around 3 weeks and it was around the time I just started lifting. I did it to become leaner and it did work well, but training was a bitch because I lost strength that I had just previously gained. >:(
Probably would be different now if I gave it a shot. I guess I am discouraged from past experience, but I still want to give it a go. My version probably wouldn't be as clean as Dave's.
you're not so fat yourself these days , Sand Negro.
how do you eat / train these days?
Carbs are abundant in my diet. I pretty much try to eat clean, taking in around 2,200-2,800 calories a day, around 120-180 g protein.
I've had better experience with calorie counting than low carb.
History shows that the zero carb diet has zero long term effects in keeping the weight off!
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Ya, but the guys that are juiced to the max can't even build muscle while dieting, with the exception of a few, so what on earth makes you think a natural can while losing fat, IMO it can't be done in single digit bodyfat levels.
Could Palumbo be onto something with his 'zero carb' diet?
Palumbo has turned conventional medicine on its head with what many describe as a dangerous mix of foolhardiness and out right ignorance.
Palumbo calls those who criticise his diet as ignoramuses.
Palumbo is not interested in listening to the inherent health dangers of his controversial 'zero carb' diet plan.
No, Dave will do what he god damn wants to do!