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I knew he would pick Biden, now he can rip into the republicans!
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Jean Chretien for the win
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Biden is an asshole ;D
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Biden is an asshole ;D
It's a play to the democrat "moderates" the Clinton gang but its a dumb move as Biden's state was already won...he should have picked one of the governors from the battle states.
Dumb move
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Great choice! Biden will complement Obama perfectly. Now we get to see what kind of kook McCain will pick.
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wow what is a stupid steroid using Canadian doing talking about US politics anyways?
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holy crap, biden is a risky choice.
He's a serious straight shooter with no brakes.
He'll look america in the eye and tell them "Bush fucked you." He will.
Biden's son is about to go to Iraq, interesting....
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holy crap, biden is a risky choice.
He's a serious straight shooter with no brakes.
He'll look america in the eye and tell them "Bush fucked you." He will.
Biden's son is about to go to Iraq, interesting....
Ain't that the truth? LOL.... ;D
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wow what is a stupid steroid using Canadian doing talking about US politics anyways?
This "stupid steroid using"? Are you three?
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This "stupid steroid using"? Are you three?
no six
he claims he's natural
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Ain't that the truth? LOL.... ;D
Biden is one serious staright shooter. He doesn't bullshit around, and he's a man's man. He'll smack a bitch down. He's 65 and mccain looks twenty years older than him at 71.
Biden... interesting. MORE than qualified of course. Makes some verbal miscues - but he's funny as shit (compared with the other guys), he's old and white (which will make a lot of appalacian voters comfy).
I tell ya - if the US was under attack and I had to have ANY person making the call-
Obama, Hilary, Mccain, or Biden -
It'd be Biden by a mile.
he has tons of foreign policy experience, and is a cool cat under pressure.
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Im still waiting for my text message from Obama saying that he picked Biden :D yeh it was leaked out by CNN, but most of america is asleep, so they will find out this morning.
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Im still waiting for my text message from Obama saying that he picked Biden :D yeh it was leaked out by CNN, but most of america is asleep, so they will find out this morning.
"ONE" Democratic source has revealed it to CNN and the AP.
Interesting. Might not count it yet. Boy, will they have egg on their face if they get this one wrong lol...
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Im still waiting for my text message from Obama saying that he picked Biden :D yeh it was leaked out by CNN, but most of america is asleep, so they will find out this morning.
When you get it you can be the official liaison for Getbig... ;D lol
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wow what is a stupid steroid using Canadian doing talking about US politics anyways?
LOL... we've been talking about the Russia/Georgia conflict all week
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"ONE" Democratic source has revealed it to CNN and the AP.
Interesting. Might not count it yet. Boy, will they have egg on their face if they get this one wrong lol...
I dont think they would risk another screw up after reporting Tubbs dead before she was listed as deceased a couple of days ago... :o
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Biden is one serious staright shooter. He doesn't bullshit around, and he's a man's man. He'll smack a bitch down. He's 65 and mccain looks twenty years older than him at 71.
Biden... interesting. MORE than qualified of course. Makes some verbal miscues - but he's funny as shit (compared with the other guys), he's old and white (which will make a lot of appalacian voters comfy).
I tell ya - if the US was under attack and I had to have ANY person making the call-
Obama, Hilary, Mccain, or Biden -
It'd be Biden by a mile.
he has tons of foreign policy experience, and is a cool cat under pressure.
The thing i like about Biden is that he is a straight shooter, and alot of people that like McCain because he's a straight shooter, can now settle with Biden and get the same thing. It will be good to see Biden start talkin trash about McCain and Romney next week!, as i know Romney will be mcsames VP pick. I just dont think Mcsame and Romney look good together, and u can tell they dont like each other.
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"ONE" Democratic source has revealed it to CNN and the AP.
Interesting. Might not count it yet. Boy, will they have egg on their face if they get this one wrong lol...
no its also been confirmed on msnbc and the AP. Biden is Obamas VP case closed.
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Biden is one serious staright shooter. He doesn't bullshit around, and he's a man's man.
A man's man? You have very low expectations of men.
1988 - Joseph R. Biden Jr., a U.S. senator from Delaware, was driven from the nomination battle after delivering, without attribution, passages from a speech by British Labor party leader Neil Kinnock. A barrage of subsidiary revelations by the press also contributed to Biden's withdrawal: a serious plagiarism incident involving Biden during his law school years; the senator's boastful exaggerations of his academic record at a New Hampshire campaign event; and the discovery of other quotations in Biden's speeches pilfered from past Democratic politicians.
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The thing i like about Biden is that he is a straight shooter, and alot of people that like McCain because he's a straight shooter, can now settle with Biden and get the same thing. It will be good to see Biden start talkin trash about McCain and Romney next week!, as i know Romney will be mcsames VP pick. I just dont think Mcsame and Romney look good together, and u can tell they dont like each other.
Mccain was THE straight shooter from 1980 thru 2007.
last year he lost that, and reversed many positions to win the nomination. Sold out. Undeniable.
Biden has serious balls. He could fvck some people up in a street fight. Absolutely fearless, very full of himself, but wise as well. Biden is tough and will give obama's campaign some balls. Obama has style, judgment, and ice water in his vains... but now Biden brings some muscle.
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A man's man? You have very low expectations of men.
1988 - Joseph R. Biden Jr., a U.S. senator from Delaware, was driven from the nomination battle after delivering, without attribution, passages from a speech by British Labor party leader Neil Kinnock. A barrage of subsidiary revelations by the press also contributed to Biden's withdrawal: a serious plagiarism incident involving Biden during his law school years; the senator's boastful exaggerations of his academic record at a New Hampshire campaign event; and the discovery of other quotations in Biden's speeches pilfered from past Democratic politicians.
He's been in the senate for 35 years.
All his votes, statements, mistakes and triumphs, and all ya have is "20 years ago he borrowed part of a speech?"
LMAO... 20 years ago, Mccain was calling his wife the C-word and Romney was donating $ to planned parenthood. Please tell me you have more dirt on biden than "his speechwriter stole some text from another speech 7300 days ago.
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a serious plagiarism incident involving Biden during his law school years; the senator's boastful exaggerations of his academic record at a New Hampshire campaign event; and the discovery of other quotations in Biden's speeches pilfered from past Democratic politicians.
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a serious plagiarism incident involving Biden during his law school years; the senator's boastful exaggerations of his academic record at a New Hampshire campaign event; and the discovery of other quotations in Biden's speeches pilfered from past Democratic politicians.
it was fuct up to steal speeches 20 years ago. No doubt. Wrong.
RagingBull,
Do you feel it will affect anyone's votes?
If you say "he's dishonest!", you can find mccain himself admitting all the lies he told his wife. This nullifies the issue, doesn't it?
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http://rakesprogress.wordpress.com/2008/08/19/obama-and-biden-one-ticket-two-plagiarists/
Obama and Biden: One Ticket, Two Plagiarists
August 19, 2008 · No Comments
Talk of Joe Biden as Obama’s VP pick is focusing on Biden’s ability to bring strength to a ticket where Obama is weakest: foreign policy, knowledge of Washington as an experienced pol, his appeal to working class, white voters and to Catholics, and his appeal to the eastern part of swing-state Pennsylvania where Biden is well known.
What these commentaries fail to point out is that both men have a well-documented history of plagiarism.
Certainly we all remember Barack Obama’s propensity for lifting words from others’ speeches — notably, from his friend Duval Patrick, governor of Massachusetts. It was one of many instances where the debate intensified about what Obama really means when he says he means something. Words mattered one day, then didn’t matter the next. Or was it the other way around? Lacking firm convictions of his own and seeking to at least sound charismatic, Obama did what he had to: he stole somebody’s words and ideas.
As the presidential campaign has progressed beyond the primaries into the general election, Obama’s rhetoric has become less uplifting but the emptiness of his ideas and lack of conviction continue to sink his once unsinkable ship.
So, now, trying to plug the holes in his shaky campaign, some are saying Obama will select Joe Biden as his running mate.
There are two problems with Biden: 1) he is a serial plagiarist, and 2) in a very long career in Washington, he is best known for having accomplished nothing of significance. Can anyone name one event, one piece of legislation in which Biden played a significant role? Can’t think of anything? Neither can I. All I remember about Biden are the plagiarism charges, the hair plugs, and his endless appearances on Meet the Press and Face the Nation. One wonders if he has nothing else to do on Sunday mornings.
Back when Biden was still coming to New Hampshire and hoping he might stumble into the Democratic nomination, here was my take on the Delaware Senator:
Biden has been around Washington D.C. longer than the Jefferson Memorial. There’s a lot of Biden history there. The problem is that most of it is remarkably forgettable. I’ve seen him dozens of times on Meet the Press and other political shows and newscasts. I can’t remember a single important or interesting thing that he has said.
All I remember about Biden is that Mike Dukakis fatally kicked him in the groin during the 1988 Democratic presidential campaign for plagiarizing parts of a speech. The media then woke up and found numerous other cases of Biden “lifting” someone else’s work. According to the Washington Post, these included “a serious plagiarism incident involving Biden during his law school years; the senator’s boastful exaggerations of his academic record at a New Hampshire campaign event; and the discovery of other quotations in Biden’s speeches pilfered from past Democratic politicians.”
Here’s the complete post, Groceries or Joe Biden-Easy Choice!
Writing about Biden’s likely pick, MSNBC’s Howard Fineman has tried to minimize the importance of Biden’s plagiarism scandals by calling them “trivial.” For some people, cheating is trivial. For others, it reflects a central weakness in a person’s character. Fineman is not a priest but an insider like Biden, and is no position to obsolve Biden of his sins. In the hands of the McCain people and in the eyes of most voters, having two cheaters on the same Democratic ticket is not exactly a winning combination, regardless of Biden’s tenure on the Foreign Relations Committee.
But here he is, a week before the Democratic convention, poised to grasp Obama’s sweaty palm, perhaps to make history, but most likely to sink together in a sea of stolen ideas.
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it was fuct up to steal speeches 20 years ago. No doubt. Wrong.
RagingBull,
Do you feel it will affect anyone's votes?
If you say "he's dishonest!", you can find mccain himself admitting all the lies he told his wife. This nullifies the issue, doesn't it?
Not to mention the " I'd have to ask my staff" answer when he was asked how many homes they own....ROFL ;D
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With Obama in the white house you can bet your ass we'll get attacked. Who gives a f**k if Biden has foregin policy experiance, terrorists can give a shit about diplomacy now they just know they can attack without retribution. Hahahahahaha...forgiegn policy experiance my ass...and with people who wake everyday chanting "death to America".
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BTW, this thread is useless until 10am tomorrow when he actually chooses someone!!!
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McSame doesnt know how many homes he owns, i think thats a bigger issue then some small plagiarism thing Biden did 20 years ago ::). And Biden had quoted this guy before, he just didnt this one time, no big deal. Romeny and Mcsame r out of touch. Romneys net worth is over $200,000,000! and mcsame is loaded too. Obama and Biden r more intouch with the voters and their needs. Its the un educated voters that is making the polls so tight.
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to not know how many houses you own is retarded
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no its also been confirmed on msnbc and the AP. Biden is Obamas VP case closed.
Case closed!? OK. Sherlock. Why do you always try to come across as an American elections guru? ???
/insert mattT lack of critical thinking and rudimentary grasp of geography jokes, here
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is he natural?
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McSame doesnt know how many homes he owns, i think thats a bigger issue then some small plagiarism thing Biden did 20 years ago ::). And Biden had quoted this guy before, he just didnt this one time, no big deal. Romeny and Mcsame r out of touch. Romneys net worth is over $200,000,000! and mcsame is loaded too. Obama and Biden r more intouch with the voters and their needs. Its the un educated voters that is making the polls so tight.
O 'Rly!? They're politicians..... ::)
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Is it anymore retarded than saying "I've been to 57 states with 1 to go"?
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McSame doesnt know how many homes he owns, i think thats a bigger issue then some small plagiarism thing Biden did 20 years ago ::). And Biden had quoted this guy before, he just didnt this one time, no big deal. Romeny and Mcsame r out of touch. Romneys net worth is over $200,000,000! and mcsame is loaded too. Obama and Biden r more intouch with the voters and their needs. Its the un educated voters that is making the polls so tight.
wow you must think obama is pooor ::)
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So you can't be wealthy? For a socialist Obama has no problem making use of our capitolism as long as it suits him.
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wow you must think obama is pooor ::)
he's certainly not worth $100mil like McSame or $200mil like Romney, gh15
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McSame doesnt know how many homes he owns, i think thats a bigger issue then some small plagiarism thing Biden did 20 years ago ::). And Biden had quoted this guy before, he just didnt this one time, no big deal. Romeny and Mcsame r out of touch. Romneys net worth is over $200,000,000! and mcsame is loaded too. Obama and Biden r more intouch with the voters and their needs. Its the un educated voters that is making the polls so tight.
Very true statement and it is those same voters who will make this race so tight. If they had a clue it would be a landslide victory for Obama. And personally i think the Obama white house would do a great job on national security, there is no proof they will not.
McCain is not a great military leader just cause he was in the Navy ::) We dont as a country want to go back to a country that is run by military people and fear mongers. Why do you think the babyboomers are all so stressed out and fucked like that coach guy on here.
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Is it anymore retarded than saying "I've been to 57 states with 1 to go"?
Wow you're pretty desperate, eh? Are you on McCain's payroll?
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With Obama in the white house you can bet your ass we'll get attacked.
Joe,
Didn't the same thing happen with Dubya at the wheel on Sept 11th, 2001?
These things are going to happen. We have enemies. How we react is what matters.
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It's a play to the democrat "moderates" the Clinton gang but its a dumb move as Biden's state was already won...he should have picked one of the governors from the battle states.
Dumb move
I couldn't agree more.
He needed someone important from a big battleground state or from a key red state to give him leverage in some other areas.
Now, McCain can pick Romney and it's game, set, match for the white guys.
No one denies Joe Biden's brilliance, but I don't know of anyone saying that this helps Obama's electability.
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Biden is one serious staright shooter. He doesn't bullshit around, and he's a man's man. He'll smack a bitch down. He's 65 and mccain looks twenty years older than him at 71.
Biden... interesting. MORE than qualified of course. Makes some verbal miscues - but he's funny as shit (compared with the other guys), he's old and white (which will make a lot of appalacian voters comfy).
I tell ya - if the US was under attack and I had to have ANY person making the call-
Obama, Hilary, Mccain, or Biden -
It'd be Biden by a mile.
he has tons of foreign policy experience, and is a cool cat under pressure.
Much of what you say is true, but in August, you have to be making the decisions that are going to get you ELECTED in November, and Obama has not done that with this choice.
In fact, of all the individuals on his short list, Biden is the least likely to give Obama any help at the polls, something he needs desperately.
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McSame doesnt know how many homes he owns, i think thats a bigger issue then some small plagiarism thing Biden did 20 years ago ::). And Biden had quoted this guy before, he just didnt this one time, no big deal. Romeny and Mcsame r out of touch. Romneys net worth is over $200,000,000! and mcsame is loaded too. Obama and Biden r more intouch with the voters and their needs. Its the un educated voters that is making the polls so tight.
Yes,your right.The Obamas made 4,000,000 dollars last year.He certainly understands the regular guys struggles.Good point.Biden is rightfully nicknamed "the dumbest man in the senate".Ever see him question supreme court justices.He yammers on and on for 18 minutes and gives them two minutes to respond.Biden got ass raped by both Justice Roberts and Alito in their confirmation hearings.
By the way,its Joe Biden that got steroids elevated to controlled substance status.Most medical experts begged him not to,but "the dumbest man in the senate" knows better.His super insightful statement "steroids are un-American" still rings in my ears.What a dick.Once the American public sees his gritting teeth,arrogant smirk and pompous attitude he will be exposed as just another unlikeable democrat,the same with Gore and Kerry.
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I couldn't agree more.
He needed someone important from a big battleground state or from a key red state to give him leverage in some other areas.
Now, McCain can pick Romney and it's game, set, match for the white guys.
No one denies Joe Biden's brilliance, but I don't know of anyone saying that this helps Obama's electability.
My personal belief is that he should have gone with the guy from Virginia...key state, young and fresh on the national scene...reinforces Obama's outside, new JFK image...his choice of Biden only shows that he really feared the rumors about his foreign policy experience. You should never act from fear.
Biden is a hawk in dove's clothing, a throwback to Clinton's "republican" presidency of the 1990s and certainly represents a shift from the more progressive stance that got Obama where he is with his fans.
So much for 'change' when you add a 35 year 'insider' senator to you image... ???
oh well, politricks a usual...meet the new boss.............
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Screw that unpatriotic Muslim stupid look wannabe loser...McCain is a patriot who fought for his country just like his family did b4 and will do after him. He is 72 years old he doesn't care about anything but America, he could care less about the spotlight unlike Barrack "Hussein" Obama. McCain is tough and does not let America get fucked around.
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Screw that unpatriotic Muslim stupid look wannabe loser...McCain is a patriot who fought for his country just like his family did b4 and will do after him. He is 72 years old he doesn't care about anything but America, he could care less about the spotlight unlike Barrack "Hussein" Obama. McCain is tough and does not let America get fucked around.
polska,
How would you rate Bush's presidency, on a scale of 1-10?
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Screw that unpatriotic Muslim stupid look wannabe loser...McCain is a patriot who fought for his country just like his family did b4 and will do after him. He is 72 years old he doesn't care about anything but America, he could care less about the spotlight unlike Barrack "Hussein" Obama. McCain is tough and does not let America get fucked around.
That's exactly why "not so smart people" like yourself.....to put it mildly, will always vote republican and dragg this country into another war for no reason and make it THE most hated country in the world.D
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He will loose. Biden isn't gonna be able to help him win enough states. Obamas poll numbers keep going down and down....not a good sign.
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He will loose. Biden isn't gonna be able to help him win enough states. Obamas poll numbers keep going down and down....not a good sign.
yeah, obama is weaker at the moment.
Very interesting - check out the state-by-state electoral college vote polls... kinda lopsided now.
http://pollster.com/
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McSame doesnt know how many homes he owns, i think thats a bigger issue then some small plagiarism thing Biden did 20 years ago ::). And Biden had quoted this guy before, he just didnt this one time, no big deal. Romeny and Mcsame r out of touch. Romneys net worth is over $200,000,000! and mcsame is loaded too. Obama and Biden r more intouch with the voters and their needs. Its the un educated voters that is making the polls so tight.
you guys are fucking retarded. his wife and family memebers own the houses. McCaine actually takes care of his family not like obama leaving his brother in Nirobi living on $1.00 a month.
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you guys are fucking retarded. his wife and family memebers own the houses. McCaine actually takes care of his family not like obama leaving his brother in Nirobi living on $1.00 a month.
hey, that brother is a shady ass streetfighting crook. Obama has only met him twice, when he visited the region, and only for a minute.
his brother's a scumbag and wrapped up in who knows what.
Now, if Obama was quietly sending the guy $5,000 a month, and it came out the dude was using the money for drugs, terrorism, whatever, wouldn't your be rubbing Obama's nose in it?
If you want to be president, you have to distance yourself from shady people. His brother is a thug. he can't help or control who his dad nailed overseas 50 years ago. But he CAN control any problems by not sending the guy $.
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McCaine actually takes care of his family
Actually, mccain was making about 40k military pay when he married a women worth $100 million, who funded his congressional then senate runs.
She's actually taking care of him.
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he's certainly not worth $100mil like McSame or $200mil like Romney, gh15
Isn't capitolism beautiful?
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My personal belief is that he should have gone with the guy from Virginia...key state, young and fresh on the national scene...reinforces Obama's outside, new JFK image...his choice of Biden only shows that he really feared the rumors about his foreign policy experience. You should never act from fear.
Biden is a hawk in dove's clothing, a throwback to Clinton's "republican" presidency of the 1990s and certainly represents a shift from the more progressive stance that got Obama where he is with his fans.
So much for 'change' when you add a 35 year 'insider' senator to you image... ???
oh well, politricks a usual...meet the new boss.............
You're 100% correct.
I wanted to believe that Obama had a chance. I didn't necessarily want him to win, but I wanted him to be in the race...and to represent a true alternative for America.
Now, he's no longer in the race, and he no longer represents anything other than what we've already got.
Game over.
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Screw that unpatriotic Muslim stupid look wannabe loser...McCain is a patriot who fought for his country just like his family did b4 and will do after him. He is 72 years old he doesn't care about anything but America, he could care less about the spotlight unlike Barrack "Hussein" Obama. McCain is tough and does not let America get fucked around.
...except by other so-called 'Americans', like Bush and Clinton.
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yeah, obama is weaker at the moment.
Very interesting - check out the state-by-state electoral college vote polls... kinda lopsided now.
http://pollster.com/
But if all 100 of the toss-up votes go McCain...
Oregon is safely in Obama's camp, but Indiana is most likely a lost cause.
Obama needs Minnesota, so looks like he's got some shore up work to do there.
Florida is going to McCain. Obama needs to campaign there, but can forget about winning that state.
The Carolinas will split, but only NC matters and Obama should win it.
Obama has a chance to win Georgia. He needs to work Georgia and Ohio as if his life depended on it.
That said, I STRONGLY disagree with that chart showing Pennsylvania solidly for Obama. It's been a few months since I passed through there, but I saw no indication that PA was in his back pocket.
Also, even though Missouri only has 11 electoral votes, it's a damned shame that Obama is going to lose there.
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Obama has no foreign policy whatsoever, neither does biden. We are fucked. Hello terrorists!
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Obama has no foreign policy whatsoever, neither does biden. We are fucked. Hello terrorists!
A good start would be to kick the terrorists out of Washington.
Americans need to be less stupid.
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A good start would be to kick the terrorists out of Washington.
Americans need to be less stupid.
"No one in this world has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby.” :-\
/mencken, of course!
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A good start would be to kick the terrorists out of Washington.
Americans need to be less stupid.
::)........You'd be the last person I would have picked on here as a CT :(
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Serious question here to the masses... How much does VP really matter?
Do you think George H.W. Bush won because of Quayle? Or Clinton because of Gore? How about George W. Bush because of Cheney?
Does it really matter?
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A good start would be to kick the terrorists out of Washington.
Americans need to be less stupid.
mmmmmk ::)
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thought this picture was funny
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/jonk/asdfasdasd.jpg)
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::)........You'd be the last person I would have picked on here as a CT :(
Why is it a conspiracy theory 'coach'? Who is the only country to ever be convicted of 'State Sponsored terrorism' in the World Court?
Iran? Saudi Arabia? Isreal? North Korea? Cuba? Syria? Indonesia? South Africa?
nope...hmmm...I wonder who it could be.....hmmm ::)
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thought this picture was funny
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/jonk/asdfasdasd.jpg)
haha nice
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::)........You'd be the last person I would have picked on here as a CT :(
I see some conspiracies out there from time-to-time, but there is clear and convincing evidence to support my theory that the right-wing power elite - which has puppeted George Bush the past 7+ years - endeavors to increase the economic gap between the wealthy and the middle class.
All the recent evidence suggests that they are the ones who least support the notion of upward mobility being available to those who work the hardest.
The left-wing power elite, on the other hand, are ok with a few of us 'making it'.
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McCain wins...
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Pretty good energy for a 65 year old man:
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I knew he would pick Biden, now he can rip into the republicans!
Unlikely.
Biden's a knob and got stomped in the primaries.
Foolish choice.
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Unlikely.
Biden's a knob and got stomped in the primaries.
Foolish choice.
quoted for truth
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Pretty good energy for a 65 year old man:
I LIKE HIM!!!
(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/trophy.jpg) (http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/trophy.jpg)
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Actually, mccain was making about 40k military pay when he married a women worth $100 million, who funded his congressional then senate runs.
She's actually taking care of him.
I am actually recently thinking about going after a woman with $$$$$
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I am actually recently thinking about going after a woman with $$$$$
(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/FrightenedMouse.gif)
Eeeek! Thanks for the warning!
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(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/FrightenedMouse.gif)
Eeeek! Thanks for the warning!
::)
He said woman.
Not a dingbat that has feminine sexual characteristics
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Why was Biden's first move to attack McCain's military status?
"America needs a leader, not just a good soldier"
Uncool. Unnecessary.
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Why was Biden's first move to attack McCain's military status?
"America needs a leader, not just a good soldier"
Uncool. Unnecessary.
:-\ :'(
It's his job now bro.
That is just the start, Biden will be used as a proxy, it goes with the job as V.P.
Kinda like good cop bad cop.
But it's a double edged sword with Biden, he has a loud mouth, and he is likely to say something, that contorts what he has said in the past, good or bad.
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Why was Biden's first move to attack McCain's military status?
"America needs a leader, not just a good soldier"
Uncool. Unnecessary.
What? in a presidential race you are calling foul with mud slinging?
Get used to it. It will come from both sides viciously.
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Why was Biden's first move to attack McCain's military status?
"America needs a leader, not just a good soldier"
Uncool. Unnecessary.
That is an extremely profund and truthful statement!
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That is an extremely profund and truthful statement!
I agree.
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Why was Biden's first move to attack McCain's military status?
"America needs a leader, not just a good soldier"
Uncool. Unnecessary.
what is McCain's military status?
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Why was Biden's first move to attack McCain's military status?
"America needs a leader, not just a good soldier"
Uncool. Unnecessary.
I agree, particularly for someone who didn't serve (Biden).
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what is McCain's military status?
What do you mean?
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My take:
As some of you know, I'm a former military servicemember. Am I a 'veteran'? Well, I don't know that I deserve that moniker, but I did serve my country.
I often take shots at the military, because I'm intimately familiar with a lot of the BS that servicemembers are subjected to by civilian authorities.
That said, regardless of any actions they might take, I expect the White House to hold our nation's military in highest esteem and for Biden to come out essentially mocking McCain for being a 'good soldier' is a smack in the face to every good American, because in so doing he mocks the very important job our military does for us all.
I'm perfectly fine with John Q. Citizen making a remark like that, but it's entirely inappropriate for someone who aspires to the White House.
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Why was Biden's first move to attack McCain's military status?
"America needs a leader, not just a good soldier"
Uncool. Unnecessary.
I agree with it completely... You're spinning the statement I think.
You can be a good soldier and a good leader, but the US needs a good leader BEFORE it needs a good soldier.
We've got lots of good soldiers... We need good leaders.
I don't see a problem with his statement at all.
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My take:
As some of you know, I'm a former military servicemember. Am I a 'veteran'? Well, I don't know that I deserve that moniker, but I did serve my country.
I often take shots at the military, because I'm intimately familiar with a lot of the BS that servicemembers are subjected to by civilian authorities.
That said, regardless of any actions they might take, I expect the White House to hold our nation's military in highest esteem and for Biden to come out essentially mocking McCain for being a 'good soldier' is a smack in the face to every good American, because in so doing he mocks the very important job our military does for us all.
I'm perfectly fine with John Q. Citizen making a remark like that, but it's entirely inappropriate for someone who aspires to the White House.
Completely agree. Well said.
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what is McCain's military status?
Retired Navy Captain.
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::)........You'd be the last person I would have picked on here as a CT :(
Actually, joe. You're a CTer too.
You strongly believe in that "clinton body count" thing.
That's a conspiracy theory.
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Seriously, why are we even talking about Obama, he's slipping, he's falling, and he won't be able to get back up, according to the poll's. He is a muslim for sure, the guy only know's how to talk a good game, A REAL GOOD GAME, aside from that he is young and I guess COOL so kid's vibe with him. The bottom line is America is getting to know the real him and they don't like it. PERIOD
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Seriously, why are we even talking about Obama, he's slipping, he's falling, and he won't be able to get back up, according to the poll's. He is a muslim for sure, the guy only know's how to talk a good game, A REAL GOOD GAME, aside from that he is young and I guess COOL so kid's vibe with him. The bottom line is America is getting to know the real him and they don't like it. PERIOD
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH ::)
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What's so funny kid?? McCain is 72 year's old, he does not care about the limelight all he cares about is bettering America he has no other agenda. His family before and after him including him have served or are going to serve in the military he is married to a rich wife who did'nt marry him for the money she could have had anybody yet she chose him which means he's a good man. He will protect America and I trust him WAY more then some up-patriotic half-Kenyan nebie
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What's so funny kid?? McCain is 72 year's old, he does not care about the limelight all he cares about is bettering America he has no other agenda. His family before and after him including him have served or are going to serve in the military he is married to a rich wife who did'nt marry him for the money she could have had anybody yet she chose him which means he's a good man. He will protect America and I trust him WAY more then some up-patriotic half-Kenyan nebie
We can talk about that old pandering geezer whore later.
I'm laughing at your "Obama is a muslim for sure" crap.
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Dude, you know you don't have a middle name like "Husein" unless you have some Muslim roots!!! He may have converted to Christianity now but I TRULY believe he has a soft spot for Muslims who are our number one enemy. I'm not saying we should be involved or start wars but if somebody destroys and kills people in America aka ("911") we have to inebriate them and that's why we need someone like McCain as President during these unsure times. He is tough and cares about America much, much much much much much more then Obama ever will PERIOD
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Dude, you know you don't have a middle name like "Husein" unless you have some Muslim roots!!! He may have converted to Christianity now but I TRULY believe he has a soft spot for Muslims who are our number one enemy. I'm not saying we should be involved or start wars but if somebody destroys and kills people in America aka ("911") we have to inebriate them and that's why we need someone like McCain as President during these unsure times. He is tough and cares about America much, much much much much much more then Obama ever will PERIOD
So your reasoning is that because his middle name is hussain he's doesn't care about America as much as McCain?
And this is how you back the statement: "Obama is a Muslim for sure" ?
That's retarded. ::)
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Dude, you know you don't have a middle name like "Husein" unless you have some Muslim roots!!! He may have converted to Christianity now but I TRULY believe he has a soft spot for Muslims who are our number one enemy. I'm not saying we should be involved or start wars but if somebody destroys and kills people in America aka ("911") we have to inebriate them and that's why we need someone like McCain as President during these unsure times. He is tough and cares about America much, much much much much much more then Obama ever will PERIOD
Those are Tobey keith lyrics, aren't they?
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What's so funny kid?? McCain is 72 year's old, he does not care about the limelight all he cares about is bettering America he has no other agenda. His family before and after him including him have served or are going to serve in the military he is married to a rich wife who did'nt marry him for the money she could have had anybody yet she chose him which means he's a good man. He will protect America and I trust him WAY more then some up-patriotic half-Kenyan nebie
hes 72=he dont care about the limelight? his wife married him=hes a good man.......WOW!
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Those are Tobey keith lyrics, aren't they?
Phenomenal.
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Seriously, why are we even talking about Obama, he's slipping, he's falling, and he won't be able to get back up,
pssst: At 70+ years of age, I think McCain stands the greatest risk of falling and not being able to get back up. :D
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If Obama was white, and was a carbon copy of Barrack Obama would 89% of African-American's still vote for him......?
Hussein is not a middle name I would want in an American President?
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If Obama was white, and was a carbon copy of Barrack Obama would 89% of African-American's still vote for him......?
Hussein is not a middle name I would want in an American President?
YEs, a candidates name is important......... more than leadership, stance on issues, integrity etc...
good short bus point. lol
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Brother, try to become an American, not an African-American. We are trying to unite with y'all, accept the olive branch and don't be so damn pro black, be pro-American. let's unite and take over the world.
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Brother, try to become an American, not an African-American. We are trying to unite with y'all, accept the olive branch and don't be so damn pro black, be pro-American. let's unite and take over the world.
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What language is this person is using? This is gibberish.
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Brother, try to become an American, not an African-American. We are trying to unite with y'all, accept the olive branch and don't be so damn pro black, be pro-American. let's unite and take over the world.
So people in America should change their names to names like John, Jim, James, Jerry etc....?
This is rich.....lol
I'm still waiting for you to back up your statement about Obama being a muslim. Guess you never will outside this unrelated barf.
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Moving back to Biden....
He has a lot of experience in Washington...which is good & bad. He knows how things work. He has far more foreign policy experience than Obama, so that could be a plus. He is strong willed and straighforward. He can be the attack dog for the ticket and he's good at it.
The negatives: Biden is arrogant, difficulty working across the isle, he is establishment, very outspoken and at times makes heated & inappropriate comments that gets him criticizm, he embelishes, he thought Obama was too inexperienced, he once admired McCain. I see a shrewd politician that is less than trustworthy (like most of them) and is passionate about his causes & opinions such that he may disregard needed input from other experts.
More recently, he was at the head of the government's involvement with steroids in baseball and spoke very unintelligently about steroids & HGH in general...which is a total waste of our tax $. He also wanted to give Georgia 1 billion more of our tax dollars, which we'd be borrowing from China.
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"Hussein" for starter's is enough proof for the majority of logical people out there. His dad was a muslim, another reason to believe he is a muslim for logical people. Black people will take his word because they're retarded and delusional. White people do not believe him and that's why he is slipping in the polls, basically it's over, Barrack is done, it's over, the pipe dream of an African-American being president is over SORRY.
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"Hussein" for starter's is enough proof for the majority of logical people out there. His dad was a muslim, another reason to believe he is a muslim for logical people. Black people will take his word because they're retarded and delusional. White people do not believe him and that's why he is slipping in the polls, basically it's over, Barrack is done, it's over, the pipe dream of an African-American being president is over SORRY.
Ok, so your proof of him being a muslim, is that his name is Hussein and his dad was a muslim?
So your religion is predetermined by your Father and your name?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH
I guess the majority of people are retarded.
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I think Polska is a hilarious gimmic of one of the regulars. Hugo maybe. Or MB.
Nobody is that far-out.
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I think Polska is a hilarious gimmic of one of the regulars. Hugo maybe. Or MB.
Nobody is that far-out.
quite possible. Or maybe not. lol
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Any rebuttles to my comments?
The outlandish posts get the most responce...I know, I'm more boring...
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Moving back to Biden....
He has a lot of experience in Washington...which is good & bad. He knows how things work. He has far more foreign policy experience than Obama, so that could be a plus. He is strong willed and straighforward. He can be the attack dog for the ticket and he's good at it.
The negatives: Biden is arrogant, difficulty working across the isle, he is establishment, very outspoken and at times makes heated & inappropriate comments that gets him criticizm, he embelishes, he thought Obama was too inexperienced, he once admired McCain. I see a shrewd politician that is less than trustworthy (like most of them) and is passionate about his causes & opinions such that he may disregard needed input from other experts.
More recently, he was at the head of the government's involvement with steroids in baseball and spoke very unintelligently about steroids & HGH in general...which is a total waste of our tax $. He also wanted to give Georgia 1 billion more of our tax dollars, which we'd be borrowing from China.
I thought he needed to pick an experienced white guy with military experience. He got most of that with Biden.
I agree Biden is arrogant and his mouth will get him in trouble, like it has in the past.
Overall, I think Obama did okay, because he needed to pick someone who wouldn't hurt him, which Hillary would have done. I don't think people will be thinking about Biden much when they vote in November.
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I thought he needed to pick an experienced white guy with military experience. He got most of that with Biden.
I agree Biden is arrogant and his mouth will get him in trouble, like it has in the past.
Overall, I think Obama did okay, because he needed to pick someone who wouldn't hurt him, which Hillary would have done. I don't think people will be thinking about Biden much when they vote in November.
What military experience?
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What military experience?
None. That's why I said he got "most" of what he needed with Biden (experienced white guy, but not the military experience).
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Moving back to Biden....
He has a lot of experience in Washington...which is good & bad. He knows how things work. He has far more foreign policy experience than Obama, so that could be a plus. He is strong willed and straighforward. He can be the attack dog for the ticket and he's good at it.
The negatives: Biden is arrogant, difficulty working across the isle, he is establishment, very outspoken and at times makes heated & inappropriate comments that gets him criticizm, he embelishes, he thought Obama was too inexperienced, he once admired McCain. I see a shrewd politician that is less than trustworthy (like most of them) and is passionate about his causes & opinions such that he may disregard needed input from other experts.
More recently, he was at the head of the government's involvement with steroids in baseball and spoke very unintelligently about steroids & HGH in general...which is a total waste of our tax $. He also wanted to give Georgia 1 billion more of our tax dollars, which we'd be borrowing from China.
Alot of people used to admire McCain, ...but clearly he is not the same McCain of 2000,
...and as more and more revelations come to light about his flawed character, he becomes less appealing everyday.
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hannity admitted on his radio show today.... that the experience question is answered with biden's selection. no longer a concern.
Also he talked about how deeply offended he was by what biden said about indians working at 7-11. I don't konw how a cream puff like hannity is offended by it, but...
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i worshipped mccain in 2000.
now he's changed every position, so not so much..........
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hannity admitted on his radio show today.... that the experience question is answered with biden's selection. no longer a concern.
Also he talked about how deeply offended he was by what biden said about indians working at 7-11. I don't konw how a cream puff like hannity is offended by it, but...
interesting from hannity
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interesting from hannity
He'd play a statement, and talk about how offended he was. Repeatedly. For 15 minutes straight.
It was pathetic. Like a bunch of ex-wives ctying about their man leaving them.
"He owes us an apology". He must have said that about 20 times. Shut the fucck up, hannity, act like a damn man for once. tell us what mccain willl do better. don't spend 15 straight minutes whining about how you're owed an apology.
After 15 minutes, I couldn't listen anymore. If I heard a grown man whining like that in person, I'd take him aside and tell him to stop acting like such a fvcking biitch. Cry, cry cry. Tell us how you'll fix it, dont' just sit there bawling.
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I think Polska is a hilarious gimmic of one of the regulars. Hugo maybe. Or MB.
Nobody is that far-out.
i hope your right.but i dont know. i never underestimate the power of stupid..
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I'm not a gimmick, I call thing's the way I see them, and yesterday at the democratic convention I saw some shit that made me want to hurl. 50% of the speaker's were black libertarian theology speaker's, the place was going nuts, dancing, acting like fool's this is definitely not the crowd I want running this country. When I heard Michelle Obama speak it was some of the fakest wannabe shit ever, and then they're kid's showed up and they were trying to act all CUTE and white, I guarantee you that Barrack and Michelle told them to smile a lot and make goofy remarks to get the white vote.
I've seen how Black's act and they do not resemble anything I saw last night. Barrack is acting white along with his family, basically dissing the black way of life because he knows that these dumb ass Black's will still vote for him.
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then they're kid's showed up and they were trying to act all CUTE and white
I've seen how Black's act and they do not resemble anything I saw last night. Barrack is acting white along with his family
Can you please define what you believe to be 'acting black' and 'acting white'?
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Yo know how white kid's act all cute and say the aka "dardentst thing's", alway's smiling an acting all clooless. Black kid's are more real, they act like they're 20 when they reach the age of 6. They know too much to early.
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Yo know how white kid's act all cute and say the aka "dardentst thing's", alway's smiling an acting all clooless. Black kid's are more real, they act like they're 20 when they reach the age of 6. They know too much to early.
ok.
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Yo know how white kid's act all cute and say the aka "dardentst thing's", alway's smiling an acting all clooless. Black kid's are more real, they act like they're 20 when they reach the age of 6. They know too much to early.
Wow... I've never seen white trash kids do that. ::)
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Yo know how white kid's act all cute and say the aka "dardentst thing's", alway's smiling an acting all clooless. Black kid's are more real, they act like they're 20 when they reach the age of 6. They know too much to early.
its quite possible you r the dumbest SOB to ever post on get big....and that sayin somethin on this site.
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You tell me the difference's between white and black kid's, and don't go into all this slavery/discrimination bullshitt. I'm Polish and my country went through WW1 and WW2 70 year's ago, unlike slavery which date hundred's of years back the difference is we stopped bitching about it 50 year's ago and we don't beg for anything.
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I'm still waiting for you to prove Obama is a Muslim.
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I'm still waiting for you to prove Obama is a Muslim.
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he cannot.
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Didn't Biden say that Obama wasn't ready to lead the country?
Was this already discussed in one of the several Obama-Biden threads here?
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I think Hillary and Bill feel the same way, Barrack is not ready to lead this country.
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This is an exchange between George Stephanopolous and Biden in 2007:
STEPHANOPOULOS: You were asked, “Is he ready?”
You said, “I think he can be ready, but right now I don’t believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the- job-training.”
BIDEN: I think that — I stand by the statement.
This is one of those gaffes where people accidently tell the truth in a way they will regret. Obama isn’t qualified and Biden knew it. Now he gets to try and explain himself. Should be fun
http://www.obamascon.com/2008/08/22/biden-obama-not-ready/
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he cannot.
So are we to assume the man has no balls to back up anything he says?
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I think Hillary and Bill feel the same way, Barrack is not ready to lead this country.
Who is EVER ready to lead a country?
To act like there's some "lead the country" class people show up to is ridiculous... People get elected and they prove they are ready.
Do you think George W. Bush was ready? Has he proven to be ready?
I'd say no to both... and history is showing so.
So who is voting for someone to be "ready to lead".
Stupid, stupid notion.
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Who is EVER ready to lead a country?
To act like there's some "lead the country" class people show up to is ridiculous... People get elected and they prove they are ready.
Do you think George W. Bush was ready? Has he proven to be ready?
I'd say no to both... and history is showing so.
So who is voting for someone to be "ready to lead".
Stupid, stupid notion.
good point
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The point is that Obama's own running mate, Biden, said that Obama is not ready to lead the country. Obviously, Biden believes there are others out there who are ready and better qualified to lead the country. You may disagree, but you are not Obama's running mate.
I'm no fan of McCain's, but Biden is:
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The point is that Obama's own VP, Biden, said that Obama is not ready to lead the country.
I'm no fan of McCain's, but Biden is:
People can change their minds... Happens all the time.
Besides... I don't care what Biden says... The PEOPLE said Obama was... They also determined the BIDEN was NOT... Or they would have voted for him.
Last I checked... Obama won the Democratic primary... No one else.
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People can change their minds... Happens all the time.
Besides... I don't care what Biden says... The PEOPLE said Obama was... They also determined the BIDEN was NOT... Or they would have voted for him.
Last I checked... Obama won the Democratic primary... No one else.
True, the people can choose whoever they want to choose. I'm no fan of Hilary's either. I like Ron Paul. :-\
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This is an exchange between George Stephanopolous and Biden in 2007:
STEPHANOPOULOS: You were asked, “Is he ready?”
You said, “I think he can be ready, but right now I don’t believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the- job-training.”
BIDEN: I think that — I stand by the statement.
This is one of those gaffes where people accidently tell the truth in a way they will regret. Obama isn’t qualified and Biden knew it. Now he gets to try and explain himself. Should be fun
http://www.obamascon.com/2008/08/22/biden-obama-not-ready/
McCain ran an ad replaying this within hours after Biden was selected. Pretty funny.
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I'm still waiting for you to prove Barrack "HUSSEIN" Obama is not a muslim
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I'm still waiting for you to prove Barrack "HUSSEIN" Obama is not a muslim
Why don't you prove he is?
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Why don't you prove he is?
I think the American public would be more comfortable with proof he is not....hell no one knew he had a brother living on $1/month until a few weeks ago....who is to say he's not pointing northeast
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I think the American public would be more comfortable with proof he is not....hell no one knew he had a brother living on $1/month until a few weeks ago....who is to say he's not pointing northeast
Why is that?
EVEN if he is... What does that have to do with being President?
Let's say it DOES matter... Which it does not. Does everyone forget that the Saudi Royal (who spawned Bin Laden and are all Muslim) are great friends with Bush?
Does everyone forget that GWB calls one of their members "Little Bushy"?
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Why is that?
EVEN if he is... What does that have to do with being President?
Let's say it DOES matter... Which it does not. Does everyone forget that the Saudi Royal (who spawned Bin Laden and are all Muslim) are great friends with Bush?
Does everyone forget that GWB calls one of their members "Little Bushy"?
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Sharia Law.
Allah Akbar
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Sharia Law.
Allah Akbar
What about lil Bushy there?
It's ok for GW to be tied to a Muslim family but Obama better not be?
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It's ok for GW to be tied to a Muslim family
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The Saudi Family isn't Muslim?
Lil Bushy?
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The Saudi Family isn't Muslim?
Lil Bushy?
Bullshit, dude. No way bush is tied up with those bums. You CT liars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bullshit, dude. No way bush is tied up with those bums. You CT liars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
;D
I like you... you make me laugh.