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Ronnie, Dorian, Nasser, Tom Prince, Franco...all possessed THICKNESS
They trained hard and heavy. The new guys like Wolf and Heath, even guys like Flex wheeler
have physiques that reflect their training methods (no thickness)
(http://www.joe0.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/Dorian-Yates-1.jpg)
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r255/Kelly0108/Ronnie_Coleman_photo340.jpg)
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How much detective work did it take for you to figure that one out, Sherlock? ::)
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of all the pics of ronnie he picks one where he has a thong up his asscrack
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of all the pics of ronnie he picks one where he has a thong up his asscrack
Yea, exactly. Im pretty sure there are other pics of Ronnie that will display his mass perfectly fine, but of course this little closet case chose that one. :-\
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Yea, exactly. Im pretty sure there are other pics of Ronnie that will display his mass perfectly fine, but of course this little closet case chose that one. :-\
i bet that was the real reason he made the thread to begin with :-\
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i bet that was the real reason he made the thread to begin with :-\
Oh, no doubt about it. :-X
But, I think it's safe to say, "he" won't recover.
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Oh, no doubt about it. :-X
But, I think it's safe to say, "he" won't recover.
are you suggesting he deleted his account ?
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TELL THAT TO PAUL DILLETT !!!! Super thick. He was one of the first freaks of the 90's. I watched him train daily in Venice for years. The man trained super,super light. And he was massive.
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i do not agree with the "heavier = more mass" part.
Ronnie had tremendous genetics, if for nothing more than his response to gear - doesnt get any better than that.
If heavy weight was the key to being giant, nobody would train light. i wouldnt consider lee priest, dexter, shawn ray, etc etc to be big and "thick" as ronnie, but they are by no means small, and they dont train nearly as heavy as ronnie's big ape ass does.
I could name 10 bodybuilders that have better arms than dorian, and they didnt go all heavy stupid crazy, just high volume and moderate weight.
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I would think certain muscle groups would warrant different training methods. You couldn't treat your biceps to the same weight ratio and reps as say quads right?
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I have watched Strydom train for years in Venice. He is another man who has trained very light for many years now. And he is thick as hell.
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does anyone think that heavy squats might have something to do with midsection/ab/gut thickness
i think so
i was reading starting strength by mark rippetoe ( an ebook that i got a link to off this site ) and he claims that doing squats will strengthen the body from the hip in both directions
so if these guys want serious quad growth, their abdomens would (theoretically) have to adapt in the same manner
just a thought.
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does anyone think that heavy squats might have something to do with midsection/ab/gut thickness
i think so
i was reading starting strength by mark rippetoe ( an ebook that i got a link to off this site ) and he claims that doing squats will strengthen the body from the hip in both directions
so if these guys want serious quad growth, their abdomens would (theoretically) have to adapt in the same manner
just a thought.
does anyone think that heavy squats might have something to do with midsection/ab/gut thickness
i think so
i was reading starting strength by mark rippetoe ( an ebook that i got a link to off this site ) and he claims that doing squats will strengthen the body from the hip in both directions
so if these guys want serious quad growth, their abdomens would (theoretically) have to adapt in the same manner
just a thought.
I think it would depend on body mechanics. Platz squatted narrow as shit. I stand wider. That must mean it's hitting different parts right?
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You like 'em good and thick don't ya? Probably gotta have big thick veins all over 'em too, eh?
::)
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heavy deads and squats will no doubt thicken your waist..... not as much as overeating in the off seasom and abusing igf/slin/growth
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How do you explain Markus and Paco and D.J. and Dillet and (etc etc) ??
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How do you explain Markus and Paco and D.J. and Dillet and (etc etc) ??
Markus and DJ train pretty heavy, look at the video of DJ inclining 455 like 3 days out of a contest.
Dillet was big but not thick like the other men, his chest to back thickness was not on the other mantioned men's level.
I would also add Kevin to the list, couse he was not very wide but he was thick.
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Vince Taylor was another guy who trained with lighter weight, but higher reps.
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Markus and DJ train pretty heavy, look at the video of DJ inclining 455 like 3 days out of a contest.
Dillet was big but not thick like the other men, his chest to back thickness was not on the other mantioned men's level.
I would also add Kevin to the list, couse he was not very wide but he was thick.
have you ever seen Dillett in person? I watched the man train for over 5 years while he was living in venice. Nearly everyday. Paul was one of the thickest men ever. Looking at paul from the side was a sight to be seen. Heavy weights do not mean thickness. A guys genetics and his roid use are what does it. If Dillett had said that he trained super heavy than we would all be saying how paul is so thick because he trains heavy. it is all bullshit when one is juiced up to the heavens and one has freak genetics. In the 80's Strydom trained super heavy and he was huge. In the 90's and the present Strydom trains super light with pumpsets and he is even bigger than he was. And he is near 50years old. With Strydoms amount of gear,smarts and superman genetics it doesnt matter if he trained with rubber bands. He would still grow.
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I genuinely feel bad for him looking at this pic. Unrecognizable from his former self. I hope he's at least healthy now.
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Yes, heavy weights=thickness. If you have the genes for it.
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have you ever seen Dillett in person? I watched the man train for over 5 years while he was living in venice. Nearly everyday. Paul was one of the thickest men ever. Looking at paul from the side was a sight to be seen. Heavy weights do not mean thickness. A guys genetics and his roid use are what does it. If Dillett had said that he trained super heavy than we would all be saying how paul is so thick because he trains heavy. it is all bullshit when one is juiced up to the heavens and one has freak genetics. In the 80's Strydom trained super heavy and he was huge. In the 90's and the present Strydom trains super light with pumpsets and he is even bigger than he was. And he is near 50years old. With Strydoms amount of gear,smarts and superman genetics it doesnt matter if he trained with rubber bands. He would still grow.
Dude, are for fucking real????
Strydom used to have trouble bench pressing 275# for reps in the 80's.
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Dude, are for fucking real????
Strydom used to have trouble bench pressing 275# for reps in the 80's.
maybe so, but he was a hell of a painter
one time i saw him reproduce the mona lisa with one stroke
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Dude, are for fucking real????
Strydom used to have trouble bench pressing 275# for reps in the 80's.
If you havent caught on, "BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT" has been exposed as one of the biggest pathological liars on the site. :-\
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have you ever seen Dillett in person? I watched the man train for over 5 years while he was living in venice. Nearly everyday. Paul was one of the thickest men ever. Looking at paul from the side was a sight to be seen. Heavy weights do not mean thickness. A guys genetics and his roid use are what does it. If Dillett had said that he trained super heavy than we would all be saying how paul is so thick because he trains heavy. it is all bullshit when one is juiced up to the heavens and one has freak genetics. In the 80's Strydom trained super heavy and he was huge. In the 90's and the present Strydom trains super light with pumpsets and he is even bigger than he was. And he is near 50years old. With Strydoms amount of gear,smarts and superman genetics it doesnt matter if he trained with rubber bands. He would still grow.
I guess you had to see Paul, in any case he did not look thick next to the other dudes in pics, big but not thick you can definately see this in his back and pecs. So at least heavy weights make you seem thicker in pictures ::)
Other honorable mentions are Johnie J and Branch.
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(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r255/Kelly0108/Ronnie_Coleman_photo340.jpg)
There's something EXTREMELY GAY about that pic. Can't figure out what it is. ??? ::)
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the backdrop design? yea that gray/black looks a little faggity. other than that, everything is fine?
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Ive long felt this to be the defining factor between the two different body types. Good point.
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the backdrop design? yea that gray/black looks a little faggity. other than that, everything is fine?
No, pretty sure he was referring to the large ebony man with a thong shoved between his shredded glutes. :-X
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No, pretty sure he was referring to the large ebony man with a thong shoved between his shredded glutes. :-X
bingo ;D
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There's something EXTREMELY GAY about that pic. Can't figure out what it is. ??? ::)
Its only gay if you let your mind go there...
Its up to you how gay that photo is
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Its only gay if you let your mind go there...
Its up to you how gay that photo is
That photo is gay no matter how you slice it. ::)
Sorry to burst your bubble about the masculine muscle hero you idolize. :-X
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Ronnie, Dorian, Nasser, Tom Prince, Franco...all possessed THICKNESS
They trained hard and heavy. The new guys like Wolf and Heath, even guys like Flex wheeler
have physiques that reflect their training methods (no thickness)(http://www.joe0.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/Dorian-Yates-1.jpg)
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r255/Kelly0108/Ronnie_Coleman_photo340.jpg)
LOL......K!
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i don't think so, a lot of skinny guys in my gym lifting weights that look like they would get crushed under
the big guys lift lighter and try to feel the muscle working during each rep
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Bodybuilding and powerlifting are completely different
Strydom does trainer lighter than most...... he is huge..... I saw him @ Gold's back in June. He trained semi heavy on seated rows but very light on hammer rows and chest supported t bar rows...... His arms and chest and traps were thick. Vince Taylor is bigger than Shawn Ray but Vince Trains lighter than Shawn. It is quality not quantity. Lee Haney used 185 for barbell rows and his back was better than these guys that row with 3 and 4 plates.
Lance Dreher from the 80s trained rather light and had a very thick and dense build.
Paul Dillet was quite a sight..... saw him in Venice 10 years ago...... amazing chest thickness and arms etc.....
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i don't think so, a lot of skinny guys in my gym lifting weights that look like they would get crushed under
the big guys lift lighter and try to feel the muscle working during each rep
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exactly right..... feel the muscle work...... you will build quality muscle and you will also avoid major injuries.
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There's something EXTREMELY GAY about that pic. Can't figure out what it is. ??? ::)
Maybe if you take your eyes out of his asscrack it won't seem gay at all
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the late great paul borresson would always hammer home the point that big weights are for powerlifters..
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i used to think dorian trained "heavy" but seeing guys like ronnie and johnnie, im not so sure?
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not many trained as heavy as dorian using controlled movements with full range of motion,,,, big difference
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i used to think dorian trained "heavy" but seeing guys like ronnie and johnnie, im not so sure?
Watch Johnnie Jackson's poundages split in half if he used the form that Dorian used.
Remember, Dorian was never about trying to train extremely heavy. His method emphasized FORM over everything else
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Train super heavy and compete very short time with monstruos mass
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Train with the moderate weight with squeezing hard and compete long time with good mass.
Its a matter of choice.
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Watch Johnnie Jackson's poundages split in half if he used the form that Dorian used.
Remember, Dorian was never about trying to train extremely heavy. His method emphasized FORM over everything else
He never hyped himself as a heavy lifter, but people made that case for him.
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not many trained as heavy as dorian using controlled movements with full range of motion,,,, big difference
excellent point.... Ronnie and Branch are so sloppy I can't believe it. Dorian was in control of the weight more often than not.
Training heavy is relative.
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Train super heavy and compete very short time with monstruos mass
or
Train with the moderate weight with squeezing hard and compete long time with good mass.
Its a matter of choice.
excellent post............ Vince Taylor has avoided injuries and has competed for years..... he will be around for many more years to come due to the fact that he is free from serious injuries.
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its sickening how prince degraded.
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excellent post............ Vince Taylor has avoided injuries and has competed for years..... he will be around for many more years to come due to the fact that he is free from serious injuries.
Shawn Ray also.
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Thickess guy is the one who responds best to the drugs their taking at the time. When you see them off the suds they become thick-LESS.
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Thickess guy is the one who responds best to the drugs their taking at the time. When you see them off the suds they become thick-LESS.
i disagree, if you ever see a retired powerlifter like kaz, he'll be thick forever, you cant get rid of that kind of mass
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have you ever seen Dillett in person? I watched the man train for over 5 years while he was living in venice. Nearly everyday. Paul was one of the thickest men ever. Looking at paul from the side was a sight to be seen. Heavy weights do not mean thickness. A guys genetics and his roid use are what does it. If Dillett had said that he trained super heavy than we would all be saying how paul is so thick because he trains heavy. it is all bullshit when one is juiced up to the heavens and one has freak genetics. In the 80's Strydom trained super heavy and he was huge. In the 90's and the present Strydom trains super light with pumpsets and he is even bigger than he was. And he is near 50years old. With Strydoms amount of gear,smarts and superman genetics it doesnt matter if he trained with rubber bands. He would still grow.
QFT!!!
dorian didnt train heavy relative to his bodyweight, he used moderately heavy weight but nowhere in the same league as ROnnie
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i disagree, if you ever see a retired powerlifter like kaz, he'll be thick forever, you cant get rid of that kind of mass
Bingo.
Sure, some guys like tom prince and Levrone shrink,
but a guy like VIC RICHARDS was thick at age 17.. And he is thick as hell now he is retired.
BORN TO BE BIG
(http://www.freakestphysique.blogger.com.br/vic17.jpg)
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Bingo.
Sure, some guys like tom prince and Levrone shrink,
but a guy like VIC RICHARDS was thick at age 17.. And he is thick as hell now he is retired.
BORN TO BE BIG
(http://www.freakestphysique.blogger.com.br/vic17.jpg)
Damn, at such yound age he was fucking big and thick for sure.
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Damn, at such yound age he was fucking big and thick for sure.
Some guys just have sick genetics.
Naturally thick dudes, big joints, strong as hell.
Alot of jealous fucks around here who can't accept that there are freaks out their with much better genetics than them,,,,,,
so they cry "all drugs"
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Still thick as hell
(http://www.wpse.com/Galleries/1/1841/Victor%20Richards_132391.jpg)
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fuckn huge mountain of a man, born to lift weights....