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Re: The thickest bodybuilders are the ones that trained super heavy
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2008, 06:40:10 PM »
have you ever seen Dillett in person? I watched the man train for over 5 years while he was living in venice. Nearly everyday. Paul was one of the thickest men ever. Looking at paul from the side was a sight to be seen. Heavy weights do not mean thickness. A guys genetics and his roid use are what does it. If Dillett had said that he trained super heavy than we would all be saying how paul is so thick because he trains heavy. it is all bullshit when one is juiced up to the heavens and one has freak genetics. In the 80's Strydom trained super heavy and he was huge. In the 90's and the present Strydom trains super light with pumpsets and he is even bigger than he was. And he is near 50years old. With Strydoms amount of gear,smarts and superman genetics it doesnt matter if he trained with rubber bands. He would still grow.
I guess you had to see Paul, in any case he did not look thick next to the other dudes in pics, big but not thick you can definately see this in his back and pecs. So at least heavy weights make you seem thicker in pictures ::)

Other honorable mentions are Johnie J and Branch.

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Re: The thickest bodybuilders are the ones that trained super heavy
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2008, 07:33:08 PM »



There's something EXTREMELY GAY about that pic.  Can't figure out what it is. ??? ::)

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Re: The thickest bodybuilders are the ones that trained super heavy
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2008, 07:55:09 PM »
the backdrop design? yea that gray/black looks a little faggity. other than that, everything is fine?

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Re: The thickest bodybuilders are the ones that trained super heavy
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2008, 08:00:50 PM »
Ive long felt this to be the defining factor between the two different body types.  Good point.

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Re: The thickest bodybuilders are the ones that trained super heavy
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2008, 08:01:11 PM »
the backdrop design? yea that gray/black looks a little faggity. other than that, everything is fine?
No, pretty sure he was referring to the large ebony man with a thong shoved between his shredded glutes. :-X

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Re: The thickest bodybuilders are the ones that trained super heavy
« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2008, 08:01:53 PM »
No, pretty sure he was referring to the large ebony man with a thong shoved between his shredded glutes. :-X

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Re: The thickest bodybuilders are the ones that trained super heavy
« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2008, 08:23:47 PM »
There's something EXTREMELY GAY about that pic.  Can't figure out what it is. ??? ::)
Its only gay if you let your mind go there...

Its up to you how gay that photo is

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Re: The thickest bodybuilders are the ones that trained super heavy
« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2008, 08:45:13 PM »
Its only gay if you let your mind go there...

Its up to you how gay that photo is
That photo is gay no matter how you slice it. ::)

Sorry to burst your bubble about the masculine muscle hero you idolize. :-X

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Re: The thickest bodybuilders are the ones that trained super heavy
« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2008, 08:46:42 PM »
Ronnie, Dorian, Nasser, Tom Prince, Franco...all possessed THICKNESS
They trained hard and heavy. The new guys like Wolf and Heath, even guys like Flex wheeler
have physiques that reflect their training methods (no thickness)




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Re: The thickest bodybuilders are the ones that trained super heavy
« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2008, 09:03:17 PM »
i don't think so, a lot of skinny guys in my gym lifting weights that look like they would get crushed under

the big guys lift lighter and try to feel the muscle working during each rep

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Re: The thickest bodybuilders are the ones that trained super heavy
« Reply #35 on: March 04, 2009, 09:39:03 AM »
Bodybuilding and powerlifting are completely different

Strydom does trainer lighter than most...... he is huge..... I saw him @ Gold's back in June. He trained semi heavy on seated rows but very light on hammer rows and chest supported t bar rows...... His arms and chest and traps were thick. Vince Taylor is bigger than Shawn Ray but Vince Trains lighter than Shawn. It is quality not quantity. Lee Haney used 185 for barbell rows and his back was better than these guys that row with 3 and 4 plates.

Lance Dreher from the 80s trained rather light and had a very thick and dense build.

Paul Dillet was quite a sight..... saw him in Venice 10 years ago...... amazing chest thickness and arms etc.....

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Re: The thickest bodybuilders are the ones that trained super heavy
« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2009, 09:41:39 AM »
i don't think so, a lot of skinny guys in my gym lifting weights that look like they would get crushed under

the big guys lift lighter and try to feel the muscle working during each rep

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exactly right..... feel the muscle work...... you will build quality muscle and you will also avoid major injuries.

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Re: The thickest bodybuilders are the ones that trained super heavy
« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2009, 09:46:38 AM »
There's something EXTREMELY GAY about that pic.  Can't figure out what it is. ??? ::)

Maybe if you take your eyes out of his asscrack it won't seem gay at all
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Re: The thickest bodybuilders are the ones that trained super heavy
« Reply #38 on: March 04, 2009, 09:47:15 AM »
the late great paul borresson would always hammer home the point that big weights are for powerlifters..

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Re: The thickest bodybuilders are the ones that trained super heavy
« Reply #39 on: March 04, 2009, 10:07:05 AM »
i used to think dorian trained "heavy" but seeing guys like ronnie and johnnie, im not so sure?

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Re: The thickest bodybuilders are the ones that trained super heavy
« Reply #40 on: March 04, 2009, 10:09:38 AM »
not many trained as heavy as dorian using controlled movements with full range of motion,,,, big difference

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Re: The thickest bodybuilders are the ones that trained super heavy
« Reply #41 on: March 04, 2009, 10:15:07 AM »
i used to think dorian trained "heavy" but seeing guys like ronnie and johnnie, im not so sure?
Watch Johnnie Jackson's poundages split in half if he used the form that Dorian used.


Remember, Dorian was never about trying to train extremely heavy. His method emphasized FORM over everything else

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Re: The thickest bodybuilders are the ones that trained super heavy
« Reply #42 on: March 04, 2009, 10:21:42 AM »
Train super heavy and compete very short time with monstruos mass

or

Train with the moderate weight with squeezing hard and compete long time with good mass.

Its a matter of choice.

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Re: The thickest bodybuilders are the ones that trained super heavy
« Reply #43 on: March 04, 2009, 12:04:57 PM »
Watch Johnnie Jackson's poundages split in half if he used the form that Dorian used.


Remember, Dorian was never about trying to train extremely heavy. His method emphasized FORM over everything else

He never hyped himself as a heavy lifter, but people made that case for him.

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Re: The thickest bodybuilders are the ones that trained super heavy
« Reply #44 on: March 04, 2009, 12:31:26 PM »
not many trained as heavy as dorian using controlled movements with full range of motion,,,, big difference
excellent point.... Ronnie and Branch are so sloppy I can't believe it. Dorian was in control of the weight more often than not.
Training heavy is relative.

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Re: The thickest bodybuilders are the ones that trained super heavy
« Reply #45 on: March 04, 2009, 12:33:33 PM »
Train super heavy and compete very short time with monstruos mass

or

Train with the moderate weight with squeezing hard and compete long time with good mass.

Its a matter of choice.
excellent post............ Vince Taylor has avoided injuries and has competed for years..... he will be around for many more years to come due to the fact that he is free from serious injuries.

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Re: The thickest bodybuilders are the ones that trained super heavy
« Reply #46 on: March 04, 2009, 12:42:43 PM »
its sickening how prince degraded.

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Re: The thickest bodybuilders are the ones that trained super heavy
« Reply #47 on: March 04, 2009, 01:29:33 PM »
excellent post............ Vince Taylor has avoided injuries and has competed for years..... he will be around for many more years to come due to the fact that he is free from serious injuries.
Shawn Ray also.

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Re: The thickest bodybuilders are the ones that trained super heavy
« Reply #48 on: March 04, 2009, 02:31:56 PM »
Thickess guy is the one who responds best to the drugs their taking at the time. When you see them off the suds they become thick-LESS.

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Re: The thickest bodybuilders are the ones that trained super heavy
« Reply #49 on: March 04, 2009, 02:47:42 PM »
Thickess guy is the one who responds best to the drugs their taking at the time. When you see them off the suds they become thick-LESS.

i disagree, if you ever see a retired powerlifter like kaz, he'll be thick forever, you cant get rid of that kind of mass