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Title: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: spinnis on November 09, 2008, 08:50:23 AM
This is the natural PRO. And knows a ton of shit, and trains crazy hard, and yet looks like this :/

Whats the point? :)

(http://a924.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/63/l_534156a0ba7689d48a7afd1778fccf83.jpg)

(http://a253.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/52/l_91c457e034c5c847511d09a59d83b87c.jpg)

(http://a220.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/35/l_d4edbcfadabe726da863589e9fe42243.jpg)

Benches 400 pounds, deadlifts 600 pounds ... and looks like that  ??? what?
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: DeltsaForce on November 09, 2008, 08:52:19 AM
his legs got a lot better
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Post by: Mars on November 09, 2008, 08:53:01 AM
thats why i always say you should not live like a monk for this "sport" cause you will look like shit anyway, just enjoy life.
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Post by: vice1 on November 09, 2008, 08:53:14 AM
he looks like shit   :-\
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Post by: andrus on November 09, 2008, 08:53:38 AM
I think he doesn't look good at all.

Reeves destroys him.
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Post by: TommyBoy on November 09, 2008, 08:53:44 AM
I thought for a second he was holding that bag in the first pic. Well he is obviously not dieted down. What do you expect?

I definitely wouldn't guess natural PRO status for this guy.
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Post by: spinnis on November 09, 2008, 08:54:51 AM
I thought for a second he was holding that bag in the first pic. Well he is obviously not dieted down. What do you expect?

I would expect him to atlest look decent no?
He is a PRO... :)


And he complains when IFBB pros guestposes out of shape..
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Post by: DeltsaForce on November 09, 2008, 08:55:48 AM
i think the pics are morphed as i know he has huge arms and they look like twigs in the 1st pic.
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Post by: vice1 on November 09, 2008, 08:56:30 AM
I thought you were supposed to have a CHEST in the side chest pose  :-X
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Post by: TommyBoy on November 09, 2008, 08:58:08 AM
I would expect him to atlest look decent no?
He is a PRO... :)


And he complains when IFBB pros guestposes out of shape..

LOL as I edited my post...
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Post by: boonstack on November 09, 2008, 08:59:02 AM
Look, im gonna add some relevance to this shit here.

-he DOES KNOW just about as much about nutrition as anybody out there. He has a degree in chem/food science(nutrition), and I think grad school in it. He knows for more than any of you "steak and potato" kinda "guys".

-He has been around bb.com for just about as long as anyone can remember...  and he made a huge mistake claiming "NATURAL NATURAL NATURAL" drilling that into peoples heads. We get it layne, but, many of your pics are suspicious looking, which draws doubt to your honesty.

-He is kinda "bound" to staying relatively natural due to his Nat Pro. BB card HAAHAHAHHA. So, even if he wanted to juice heavy, he would probably lose some business that way. I think he is endorsed with some comp.


How many of YOU look this good?
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Post by: wavelength on November 09, 2008, 08:59:09 AM
thats why i always say you should not live like a monk for this "sport" cause you will look like shit anyway, just enjoy life.

YES!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: boonstack on November 09, 2008, 09:02:51 AM
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Post by: spinnis on November 09, 2008, 09:04:17 AM
Show some good offseason photos insted of those oral aas enhanced dieted down photos..
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Post by: QuakerOats on November 09, 2008, 09:06:33 AM
Layne could never look as good as this monster. :D
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Post by: Mars on November 09, 2008, 09:07:23 AM
if layne is on drugs it would be pathetic.
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Post by: wavelength on November 09, 2008, 09:07:49 AM
layne looks amazing in his contest pics, is he lifetime natural (no pro hormones either)?
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: boonstack on November 09, 2008, 09:08:08 AM
Show some good offseason photos insted of those oral aas enhanced dieted down photos..

why are you so sure they are oral?
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Post by: spinnis on November 09, 2008, 09:08:16 AM
Layne could never look as good as this monster. :D

Well I dont claim to be a guru nor do I deadlift 600 pounds..
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Post by: spinnis on November 09, 2008, 09:09:12 AM
why are you so sure they are oral?

Im having a hard time believing he could look so damn good dieted down but like complete SHIT offseason, The muscle size should still be there, but it looks like ...nothing.,.
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Post by: vice1 on November 09, 2008, 09:10:03 AM
Well I dont claim to be a guru nor do I deadlift 600 pounds..
is that you ?  ???
if so why are you talking shit about norton?
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Post by: andrus on November 09, 2008, 09:10:15 AM
Im having a hard time believing he could look so damn good dieted down but like complete SHIT offseason, The muscle size should still be there, but it looks like ...nothing.,.

Yeah he doesn't look muscular at all ofseason. Pretty strange.
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Post by: spinnis on November 09, 2008, 09:11:04 AM
is that you ?  ???
if so why are you talking shit about norton?

Because he claims to be a guru.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: vice1 on November 09, 2008, 09:11:54 AM
Im having a hard time believing he could look so damn good dieted down but like complete SHIT offseason, The muscle size should still be there, but it looks like ...nothing.,.
I agree with you completely
you're supposed to look bigger off season
look at his chest, it's not there
dude must be doing cycles close to competition or something  :-\
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Post by: spinnis on November 09, 2008, 09:12:03 AM
Yeah he doesn't look muscular at all ofseason. Pretty strange.

Very strange...
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: spinnis on November 09, 2008, 09:13:00 AM
I agree with you completely
you're supposed to look bigger off season
look at his chest, it's not there
dude must be doing cycles close to competition or something  :-\

How is it possible to have biggers arms dieted down the offseason and still be a natural?  ???
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Post by: vice1 on November 09, 2008, 09:15:16 AM
How is it possible to have biggers arms dieted down the offseason and still be a natural?  ???
look at him, this is ridiculous
he is much bigger competition time than offseason?
he has no muscle mass offseason
wtf?
this dude has shitty genetics and uses steroids when he gets close to competition
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Post by: wavelength on November 09, 2008, 09:15:48 AM
I think he had a pec tear and the pics are post op?
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: spinnis on November 09, 2008, 09:16:14 AM
look at him, this is ridiculous
he is much bigger competition time than offseason?
he has no muscle mass offseason
wtf?
this dude has shitty genetics and uses steroids when he gets close to competition

Ding ding ding we have a winner.


How the fuck can someone deadlift 600 pounds in the offseason and still look like a bag of shit. I dont get it. Whats the point in lifting that heavy if it doesnt show?
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: spinnis on November 09, 2008, 09:17:09 AM
I think he had a pec tear and the pics are post op?

Every single one of his offseason photos looks like complete shit, I didnt find the beach ones which (spell) was from like last year or something...
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Post by: vice1 on November 09, 2008, 09:18:00 AM
Ding ding ding we have a winner.


How the fuck can someone deadlift 600 pounds in the offseason and still look like a bag of shit. I dont get it. Whats the point in lifting that heavy if it doesnt show?
I think you should start a thread asking how the fuck this is possible
his whole body gets bigger competition time than offseason
still looks like shit for someone on steroids though  ???
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: TommyBoy on November 09, 2008, 09:22:38 AM
Ding ding ding we have a winner.


How the fuck can someone deadlift 600 pounds in the offseason and still look like a bag of shit. I dont get it. Whats the point in lifting that heavy if it doesnt show?

Is there a story to these pics though? I could understand if he just came off a injury and is posting them as a "before I get serious again" kind of deal. Cause yeah...the competition pics he looks a LOT bigger than his offseason which doesn't make sense. The only way it does to me is if the guy is coming off an injury which I believe wavelength(?) mentioned.

still looks like shit for someone on steroids though  ???

Looks better than evey upper bodybuilding juice head I've even seen regardless of AAS use or not. Then again, just opinion.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: spinnis on November 09, 2008, 09:24:04 AM
Is there a story to these pics though? I could understand if he just came off a injury and is posting them as a "before I get serious again" kind of deal. Cause yeah...the competition pics he looks a LOT bigger than his offseason which doesn't make sense. The only way it does to me is if the guy is coming off an injury which I believe wavelength(?) mentioned.

His old beach photos looks exactly like those, im gonna try to find them later
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Post by: vice1 on November 09, 2008, 09:26:17 AM
Is there a story to these pics though? I could understand if he just came off a injury and is posting them as a "before I get serious again" kind of deal. Cause yeah...the competition pics he looks a LOT bigger than his offseason which doesn't make sense. The only way it does to me is if the guy is coming off an injury which I believe wavelength(?) mentioned.

Looks better than evey upper bodybuilding juice head I've even seen regardless of AAS use or not. Then again, just opinion.
I have seen other pics of him offseason, still looks like shit
are you blind? looks better than every bodybuilding juice head you've ever seen?
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Post by: wavelength on November 09, 2008, 09:27:48 AM
here are his post op pics:

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/str8flexed/P1060836.jpg)
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/str8flexed/P1060837.jpg)
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/str8flexed/P1060838.jpg)
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/str8flexed/P1060839.jpg)
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/str8flexed/P1060840.jpg)
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/str8flexed/P1060841.jpg)
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/str8flexed/P1060842.jpg)
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/str8flexed/P1060843.jpg)
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/str8flexed/P1060844.jpg)
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/str8flexed/P1060846.jpg)
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/str8flexed/P1060847.jpg)
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/str8flexed/P1060848.jpg)
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Post by: TommyBoy on November 09, 2008, 09:28:08 AM
I have seen other pics of him offseason, still looks like shit
are you blind? looks better than every bodybuilding juice head you've ever seen?


Re-read what I said. You left out a key word that I pre-faced that statement with. That word should indicate the intelligence/dedication levels of said users. I did not say he looks better than EVERY AAS user out there. That should have been obvious to any English speaking/understanding individual but I guess not.
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Post by: spinnis on November 09, 2008, 09:29:38 AM
the guru is 5 days out :/

(http://i36.tinypic.com/2i95w82.jpg)
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: vice1 on November 09, 2008, 09:30:55 AM
here is one  ???
he has no business hitting a most muscular
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Post by: spinnis on November 09, 2008, 09:32:07 AM
DOES THIS LOOKS LIKE A NATURAL PRO TO YOU?

(http://i33.tinypic.com/29zq35d.jpg)


Does this look like a 450pound bencher and 600 pound deadlifter to you?
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Post by: TommyBoy on November 09, 2008, 09:32:20 AM
the guru is 5 days out :/

(http://i36.tinypic.com/2i95w82.jpg)

Is this a contest after the surgery? Those post-op pics he looks good considering the circumstances. Nowhere near the other pics. I wouldn't guess pro by any means.
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Post by: musclehedz on November 09, 2008, 09:33:25 AM
He uses drugs before a comp.
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Post by: spinnis on November 09, 2008, 09:33:44 AM
Is this a contest after the surgery? Those post-op pics he looks good considering the circumstances. Nowhere near the other pics. I wouldn't guess pro by any means.

Thats way before..  2 years ago...
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Post by: TommyBoy on November 09, 2008, 09:35:24 AM
Thats way before..  2 years ago...

Damn. Well speaking from experience, if he achieved the condition of those other pics naturally, then muscle memory should at least get him within range of it again regardless of injury. So...yeah.
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Post by: vice1 on November 09, 2008, 09:38:13 AM
look at those shitty legs and calves  :-\
has he tried a squat?
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Post by: Stavios on November 09, 2008, 09:39:10 AM
Swede, you sound very ignorant in this thread

Layne as just as much muscle mass in the off-season pictures than when he was onstage
he is just fatter, wich make him much less impressive.

he is not "bigger" onstage
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Post by: wavelength on November 09, 2008, 09:40:06 AM
if one on this board is lifetime natty and can produce better pics, that would be interesting
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Post by: musclehedz on November 09, 2008, 09:40:21 AM
Swede, you sound very ignorant in this thread

Layne as just as much muscle mass in the off-season pictures than when he was onstage
he is just fatter, wich make him much less impressive.

he is not "bigger" onstage

He is. And more ripped.
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Post by: Stavios on November 09, 2008, 09:41:57 AM
He is. And more ripped.

Lol

not he is not. he is leaner, that's it.
he is not bigger onstage, you guys should try competing you would understand what I mean
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Post by: Swedish Viking on November 09, 2008, 09:42:39 AM
Very impressive in person, saw him at a contest.  I don't doubt that he is clean; his off season pics look exactly as they should-like a clean guy with roughly 12-20%bf.  You look smaller when you are leaner, what do you expect?

ps. The point of lifting heavy weights even if you don't look like anything is because lifting heavy weights is fun and makes you feel good.  
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Post by: vice1 on November 09, 2008, 09:43:25 AM
Swede, you sound very ignorant in this thread

Layne as just as much muscle mass in the off-season pictures than when he was onstage
he is just fatter, wich make him much less impressive.

he is not "bigger" onstage
does he look the same size to you?
he has no chest offseason

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Post by: wavelength on November 09, 2008, 09:43:37 AM
Lol

not he is not. he is leaner, that's it.
he is not bigger onstage, you guys should try competing you would understand what I mean

Hahahaha, Stavi laying the smack down on the clueless! :D
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Post by: spinnis on November 09, 2008, 09:43:49 AM
Very impressive in person, saw him at a contest.  I don't doubt that he is clean; his off season pics look exactly as they should-like a clean guy with roughly 12-20%bf.  You look smaller when you are leaner, what do you expect?

ps. The point of lifting heavy weights even if you don't look like anything is because lifting heavy weights is fun and makes you feel good.  

And then you tear a muscle and your "carer" is ruined. but hey, as long as it makes you feel good  ::) ::)
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Post by: TommyBoy on November 09, 2008, 09:44:05 AM
if one on this board is lifetime natty and can produce better pics, that would be interesting

I do believe we have lifetime naturals with better pics, but not many. All I'm debating is the question of HIS lifetime natural status. I am not one quick to say "ZOMG AAS ALL DRUGS" because I don't believe ANYONE could be all drugs (there is always hard work in there somewhere)...but I can't help but think he may have had hormonal assistance at one point based on those pics. I'm a lifetime natural and do believe some of the pics I've posted are better than his post-op...key word, post-op. Not his other contest pics.

I'm referring to the pics BEFORE injury at his contest and the ones AFTER right before his contest. I am inclined to believe muscle memory would serve him better if he were a lifetime natural.
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Post by: Stavios on November 09, 2008, 09:46:03 AM
does he look the same size to you?
he has no chest offseason



his chest looks small because his stomach is bigger and has fat all over it, and has fat over the chest too
so we don't see a gasp under his chest or else if would look just as big as when he is onstage
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Post by: wavelength on November 09, 2008, 09:46:49 AM
I do believe we have lifetime naturals with better pics, but not many. All I'm debating is the question of HIS lifetime natural status. I am not one quick to say "ZOMG AAS ALL DRUGS" because I don't believe ANYONE could be all drugs (there is always hard work in there somewhere)...but I can't help but think he may have had hormonal assistance at one point based on those pics. I'm a lifetime natural and do believe some of the pics I've posted are better than his post-op...key word, post-op. Not his other contest pics.

Yes of course, the first question is if he really is life time natty (which I asked in this thread).

If he is, I don't think anyone can produce better pics than his contest pics.
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Post by: Stavios on November 09, 2008, 09:48:33 AM
Yes of course, the first question is if he really is life time natty (which I asked in this thread).

If he is, I don't think anyone can produce better pics than his contest pics.

spot on, as usual  8)
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Post by: Swedish Viking on November 09, 2008, 09:48:56 AM
And then you tear a muscle and your "carer" is ruined. but hey, as long as it makes you feel good  ::) ::)

  I'm a lifetime natural(did take pro hormones though when they first came out), I've torn a muscle 4x, and I've come to understand that the only people that tear muscles are the ones that make chronic training mistakes.  Plenty of people lift plenty heavy without getting injured. These are the well experienced/well educated/very intuitive.
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Post by: Noel Fuller on November 09, 2008, 09:50:54 AM
When did he break his right clavicle
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Boost on November 09, 2008, 09:51:36 AM
You can't knock his dedication
From the videos of him on youtube he trains real hard and sticks to a flawless diet.
Its just his genetic muscle shape and bone structure that are holding him back which is kinda dissapointing.

Combine Layne Norton's work ethic with Cormier's genetics and you would be looking at a multiple O winner
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Post by: spinnis on November 09, 2008, 09:51:50 AM
 I'm a lifetime natural(did take pro hormones though when they first came out), I've torn a muscle 4x, and I've come to understand that the only people that tear muscles are the ones that make chronic training mistakes.  Plenty of people lift plenty heavy without getting injured. These are the well experienced/well educated/very intuitive.

then your nat a LIFETIME natty.
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Post by: Swedish Viking on November 09, 2008, 09:52:07 AM
Yes of course, the first question is if he really is life time natty (which I asked in this thread).

If he is, I don't think anyone can produce better pics than his contest pics.
 
   He's not the greatest natural of all time.  He might be one day, who know's, but not yet.  There are a lot of genetic freaks out there, guys with size 18 shoes, have 18.5 inch arms, and weigh 230lbs relatively lean after having only lifted for highschool football.
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Post by: TommyBoy on November 09, 2008, 09:52:12 AM
Yes of course, the first question is if he really is life time natty (which I asked in this thread).

If he is, I don't think anyone can produce better pics than his contest pics.

Ahh, gotcha.
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Post by: Swedish Viking on November 09, 2008, 09:53:19 AM
then your nat a LIFETIME natty.

  That depends on which country you've lived in.  That's still considered lifetime natural in the states and you can compete as such.  In Sweden, it's otherwise.
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Post by: wavelength on November 09, 2008, 09:55:02 AM
He's not the greatest natural of all time.  He might be one day, who know's, but not yet.  There are a lot of genetic freaks out there, guys with size 18 shoes, have 18.5 inch arms, and weigh 230lbs relatively lean after having only lifted for highschool football.

Problem only is, you never know if someone is really 100% lifetime natural (no pro hormones, AAS, GH, etc.). My guess is that 90% of "natties" lie.
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Post by: wavelength on November 09, 2008, 09:56:10 AM
  That depends on which country you've lived in.  That's still considered lifetime natural in the states and you can compete as such.  In Sweden, it's otherwise.

But generally it would not be considered lifetime natty.

You got an amazing physique BTW considering you only took pro hormones.
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Post by: Stavios on November 09, 2008, 09:57:28 AM
layne would win the mr.getbig
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Post by: spinnis on November 09, 2008, 10:01:39 AM
layne would win the mr.getbig

Daddy W would win after 6 months of traing and eating correctly, he would destroy a natural pro even at a 6"6 frame.
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Post by: Swedish Viking on November 09, 2008, 10:01:48 AM
Problem only is, you never know if someone is really 100% lifetime natural (no pro hormones, AAS, GH, etc.). My guess is that 90% of "natties" lie.

 Maybe I'm naive, but I don't think it's that high.  I would feel like a total idiot lying about that.  I know some do though.  Nonetheless, that's why I made a point of using the shoe size example-some people just damn big and statistically speaking, a certain small amount of them are going to do bodybuilding.  At my last job for instance, there was a guy that was 6'2", 240lbs or so, easy 18" arms, with like size 18 shoes and arms so long he could friggin scratch his knees without bending down, pastor at a church, was very negative towards drug use.  He could have been using, I know, but I don't think he was.  I think he was just a damn big dude.  
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Post by: Pecs on November 09, 2008, 10:03:42 AM
do other natural pro look like that in the off season??
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: wavelength on November 09, 2008, 10:03:55 AM
Daddy W would win after 6 months of traing and eating correctly, he would destroy a natural pro even at a 6"6 frame.

He ain't lifetime natty (AFAIK) and I still disagree.
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Post by: Method101 on November 09, 2008, 10:05:17 AM
he tore his pec, maybe he looks like shit because he can't train properly.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Swedish Viking on November 09, 2008, 10:05:25 AM
But generally it would not be considered lifetime natty.

You got an amazing physique BTW considering you only took pro hormones.

  Well competitively speaking, it's still very allowed-I took them right when they came out in like 98 or whatever, which is before the cutoff.  But alright, you can define it however you'd like, I'm fine with that-everyone has their standards.  Having never taken steroids, I don't know just how effective they are, but after having been in this 'business' for as long as I have now and been on GETBIG for as long as I have, I get the feeling that they are considerably more effective that pro hormones ever were and are going to be.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: wavelength on November 09, 2008, 10:05:50 AM
Maybe I'm naive, but I don't think it's that high.  I would feel like a total idiot lying about that.  I know some do though.  Nonetheless, that's why I made a point of using the shoe size example-some people just damn big and statistically speaking, a certain small amount of them are going to do bodybuilding.  At my last job for instance, there was a guy that was 6'2", 240lbs or so, easy 18" arms, with like size 18 shoes and arms so long he could friggin scratch his knees without bending down, pastor at a church, was very negative towards drug use.  He could have been using, I know, but I don't think he was.  I think he was just a damn big dude.

As I said, people lie about things they're uncomfortable with. And IMO a physique can only be assessed correctly when under 8% BF.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: wavelength on November 09, 2008, 10:06:41 AM
 Well competitively speaking, it's still very allowed-I took them right when they came out in like 98 or whatever, which is before the cutoff.  But alright, you can define it however you'd like, I'm fine with that-everyone has their standards.  Having never taken steroids, I don't know just how effective they are, but after having been in this 'business' for as long as I have now and been on GETBIG for as long as I have, I get the feeling that they are considerably more effective that pro hormones ever were and are going to be.

No doubt, and as I said, amazing physique! :)
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Boost on November 09, 2008, 10:07:12 AM
Maybe I'm naive, but I don't think it's that high.  I would feel like a total idiot lying about that.  I know some do though.  Nonetheless, that's why I made a point of using the shoe size example-some people just damn big and statistically speaking, a certain small amount of them are going to do bodybuilding.  At my last job for instance, there was a guy that was 6'2", 240lbs or so, easy 18" arms, with like size 18 shoes and arms so long he could friggin scratch his knees without bending down, pastor at a church, was very negative towards drug use.  He could have been using, I know, but I don't think he was.  I think he was just a damn big dude.  
People don't wanna believe that some guys do have incredible genetics and don't even train.
You have all seen guys walking round with giant calves or forearms that have never done a calf raise or a wrist curl in their life.

Alot of people who train jsut don't want to believe that there are people out there....that look better than them.....without even training
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Swedish Viking on November 09, 2008, 10:08:00 AM
People don't wanna believe that some guys do have incredible genetics and don't even train.
You have all seen guys walking round with giant calves or forearms that have never done a calf raise or a wrist curl in their life.

Alot of people who train jsut don't want to believe that there are people out there....that look better than them.....without even training


  Word.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: wes on November 09, 2008, 10:10:19 AM
Please read Stavios posts in this thread for correct info.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Stavios on November 09, 2008, 10:14:45 AM
Please read Stavios posts in this thread for correct info.

thanks for the support my man  8)
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: wavelength on November 09, 2008, 10:21:45 AM
Agreed, Stavios is tha man.
Why aren't you entering GB3?
Have you competed within the last year?
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Stavios on November 09, 2008, 10:54:03 AM
Agreed, Stavios is tha man.
Why aren't you entering GB3?
Have you competed within the last year?

I am not natural, and I competed in july
so right now I am fat as fuck and off-cycle and very ugly to look at  ;D
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: spinnis on November 09, 2008, 10:54:54 AM
I am not natural, and I competed in july
so right now I am fat as fuck and off-cycle and very ugly to look at  ;D


Show us!  ;D
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Stavios on November 09, 2008, 11:10:06 AM
Show us!  ;D

you guys can go fuck yourself, make fun of someone else  ;D
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: spinnis on November 09, 2008, 11:11:07 AM
you guys can go fuck yourself, make fun of someone else  ;D

Come on now, show us your offseason so we can compare to layne lol!
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Stavios on November 09, 2008, 11:14:39 AM
Come on now, show us your offseason so we can compare to layne lol!

lol I don't think I look better bro  ;D

I really look like shit unless I am totally dieted down

I am only a fat 215 lbs right now  :-X
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: spinnis on November 09, 2008, 11:18:37 AM
lol I don't think I look better bro  ;D

I really look like shit unless I am totally dieted down

I am only a fat 215 lbs right now  :-X

SHOW US!!!
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Stavios on November 09, 2008, 11:19:54 AM
SHOW US!!!

FUCK YOU!!!


 ;D
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: vice1 on November 09, 2008, 11:20:09 AM
SHOW US!!!
PICTURES  ;D
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: wavelength on November 09, 2008, 11:21:46 AM
lol I don't think I look better bro  ;D

I really look like shit unless I am totally dieted down

I am only a fat 215 lbs right now  :-X

Bullshit, you look like a Canadian myostatin-less bull!
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: spinnis on November 09, 2008, 11:23:50 AM
FUCK YOU!!!


 ;D

Well,

I guess im gonna have to call your canadian mom and tell her you're juicing dat juice then.!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: wavelength on November 09, 2008, 11:25:11 AM
Well,

I guess im gonna have to call your canadian mom and tell her you're juicing dat juice then.!!!!!!!!!

Hahahahaha, pulling a shnizzledizzle on Stavi!
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: vice1 on November 09, 2008, 11:26:53 AM
Hahahahaha, pulling a shnizzledizzle on Stavi!
I'm gonna have to call your mom and tell her you drink her wine  hahaha
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Stavios on November 09, 2008, 11:29:49 AM
Well,

I guess im gonna have to call your canadian mom and tell her you're juicing dat juice then.!!!!!!!!!

Lmao she already knows  ;D
and she does mind
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: spinnis on November 09, 2008, 11:31:02 AM
Lmao she already knows  ;D
and she does mind

well im gonna tell your young relatives what a great rolemodel you are!!


 ;D
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: wavelength on November 09, 2008, 11:31:41 AM
I'm gonna have to call your mom and tell her you drink her wine  hahaha

noooooooooooo
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Fatpanda on November 09, 2008, 11:32:12 AM
the swedish viking owns most in getbig

(http://www.paullundkvist.com/mediac/400_0/media/IMG_0677.JPG)
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: wavelength on November 09, 2008, 11:33:15 AM
the swedish viking owns most in getbig

agreed
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Swedish Viking on November 09, 2008, 11:36:36 AM
There I am!
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on November 09, 2008, 11:37:06 AM
swedish viking has "eddie van halen & chris benoit midget head syndrome"
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: spinnis on November 09, 2008, 11:38:11 AM
swedish viking has "eddie van halen & chris benoit midget head syndrome"

I would say he has that Phil heat fat face while ripped syndrome
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: wavelength on November 09, 2008, 11:39:46 AM
He has a determined look in his face, no doubt ;D

perfect lines IMO
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: HTexan on November 09, 2008, 11:40:30 AM
I would say he has that Phil heat fat face while ripped syndrome
lol damn :-X
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Swedish Viking on November 09, 2008, 11:42:29 AM
swedish viking has "eddie van halen & chris benoit midget head syndrome"

   That was a bad picture, jackass.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: El_Pajero on November 09, 2008, 11:42:45 AM
the swedish viking owns most in getbig

(http://www.paullundkvist.com/mediac/400_0/media/IMG_0677.JPG)

thats a solid physique you got there fatpanda, props to you, i thought you were a fat guy.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Fatpanda on November 09, 2008, 11:43:27 AM
thats a solid physique you got there fatpanda, props to you, i thought you were a fat guy.

what can i say - all bamboo  ;D
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Swedish Viking on November 09, 2008, 11:45:13 AM
thats a solid physique you got there fatpanda, props to you, i thought you were a fat guy.

  let's give credit where credit is due puhlease!
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Fatpanda on November 09, 2008, 11:45:53 AM
  let's give credit where credit is due puhlease!


sshhhh  ;) ;D
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: wavelength on November 09, 2008, 11:47:46 AM
More from the Swedish Viking:

(http://www.paullundkvist.com/mediac/400_0/media/IMG_0727.JPG)
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Fatpanda on November 09, 2008, 11:48:30 AM
More from Fatpanda:

(http://www.paullundkvist.com/mediac/400_0/media/IMG_0727.JPG)

fixed  ;D
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: mazrim on November 09, 2008, 11:49:28 AM
J-Rod dominates Layne off-season.
Makes you wonder about his nutritional strategies when you look like that off-season. I know it shouldn't but it causes some doubt in how he goes about training/nutrition when he looks so completely different. Granted I know he can get people dialed in for contests, but otherwise...just makes me wonder.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Swedish Viking on November 09, 2008, 11:49:40 AM
Those calves are gone-lost them to a back injury, got the feeling back in my leg but the function in my left calf is still only about 75% and is much smaller than the other.  I also tore my soleus about 2 months back because of it-for the 2nd time.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Fatpanda on November 09, 2008, 11:49:47 AM
  let's give credit where credit is due puhlease!


paul whats your diet like - you have an amazing tight waist.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: wavelength on November 09, 2008, 11:49:55 AM
fixed  ;D

Do you really think that much would remain of you if you decided to diet down ::)





 ;D
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: kyomu on November 09, 2008, 11:50:15 AM
Good thread.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Fatpanda on November 09, 2008, 11:51:20 AM
J-Rod dominates Layne off-season.
Makes you wonder about his nutritional strategies when you look like that off-season. I know it shouldn't but it causes some doubt in how he goes about training/nutrition when he looks so completely different. Granted I know he can get people dialed in for contests, but otherwise...just makes me wonder.

i agree jrod blows layne away.

you have to wonder though is he really natural  :-\
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Kwon on November 09, 2008, 11:51:34 AM
Swedish Viking

You really from Sweden?
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Canadian_Muscle on November 09, 2008, 11:52:26 AM
You're such an idiot, Swede.

Stavios knows the real deal.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: spinnis on November 09, 2008, 11:53:28 AM
You're such an idiot, Swede.

Stavios knows the real deal.

 ::) ::)
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Swedish Viking on November 09, 2008, 11:53:57 AM
paul whats your diet like - you have an amazing tight waist.

   All organic, all raw, high cal days, low cal days, fast days, basically no cheating whatsoever.  

  Wavelength...I don't know, I though I was pretty tight in those pics.  Given the time, I think I could look real good in contest shape-assuming I am healthy and dieting down from a good size.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Swedish Viking on November 09, 2008, 11:54:44 AM
Swedish Viking

You really from Sweden?

  Yes, but am half American as well.  Born in Sweden, grew up in the States, back in Sweden now.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Fatpanda on November 09, 2008, 11:55:14 AM
Do you really think that much would remain of you if you decided to diet down ::)





 ;D

sure, why not.

ye of little faith wave.

remember i know the value of pre/post workout nutrition.  ;D

i'd have to know the vikings weight to be really sure.

he has an amazingly tight waist - and great shape/lines.

for me to hold that sort of bodyfat would take sub 500cals  :-\
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: wavelength on November 09, 2008, 11:55:31 AM
 Wavelength...I don't know, I though I was pretty tight in those pics.  Given the time, I think I could look real good in contest shape-assuming I am healthy and dieting down from a good size.

Hahaha, I was talking to Fatpanda, you were in amazing shape!
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: MAXX on November 09, 2008, 11:56:08 AM
He tore his pec pretty recently. Way to kick on a man down..

legs looks improved on Layne
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Canadian_Muscle on November 09, 2008, 11:56:54 AM
::) ::)

If you knew anything about bodybuilding you'd realize you're wrong.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: spinnis on November 09, 2008, 11:58:08 AM
If you knew anything about bodybuilding you'd realize you're wrong.

He looks like SHIT offseason and he shouldnt.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Fatpanda on November 09, 2008, 11:58:13 AM
the swedish viking would run away with mr getbig  8)
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: wavelength on November 09, 2008, 11:58:27 AM
sure, why not.

ye of little faith wave.

remember i know the value of pre/post workout nutrition.  ;D

i'd have to know the vikings weight to be really sure.

he has an amazingly tight waist - and great shape/lines.

for me to hold that sort of bodyfat would take sub 500cals  :-\

Well we (and by we I mean the whole Getbig family) will see, won't we? ;D
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Fatpanda on November 09, 2008, 11:59:34 AM
Well we (and by we I mean the whole Getbig family) will see, won't we? ;D

you will in time.  ;)
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Swedish Viking on November 09, 2008, 12:00:30 PM
Maybe, but don't think so right now.  Look very lopsided.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: wavelength on November 09, 2008, 12:03:08 PM
Have you ever competed?

PS.: Just want to make sure you got that:
I WAS TALKING TO FATPANDA WHEN I MADE MY REMARKS ABOUT DIETING DOWN!

;D
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: QuakerOats on November 09, 2008, 12:03:43 PM
DOES THIS LOOKS LIKE A NATURAL PRO TO YOU?

(http://i33.tinypic.com/29zq35d.jpg)


Does this look like a 450pound bencher and 600 pound deadlifter to you?
he's never benched 450 and he's naver claimed to, he tore his pec doing 390, a long way from 450 and i don't think he's deadlifted 600 either, all i've seen him do is in the mid 500's and he still looks miles better than you.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Fatpanda on November 09, 2008, 12:05:02 PM
Have you ever competed?

PS.: Just want to make sure you got that:
I WAS TALKING TO FATPANDA WHEN I MADE MY REMARKS ABOUT DIETING DOWN!

;D

epic jealousy of my panda power  :'(
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: andrus on November 09, 2008, 12:05:27 PM
That guy on the right looks like a ripped malemodel.

(http://i33.tinypic.com/29zq35d.jpg)


Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Swedish Viking on November 09, 2008, 12:06:34 PM
Have you ever competed?

PS.: Just want to make sure you got that:
I WAS TALKING TO FATPANDA WHEN I MADE MY REMARKS ABOUT DIETING DOWN!

;D

  I got it man.  Yea I have, didn't do as well as I would have liked though-most of them were in my teens before raw, didn't really know much of anything.  Then I did a couple raw but my head wasn't really in the game...
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: MAXX on November 09, 2008, 12:07:42 PM
he's never benched 450 and he's naver claimed to, he tore his pec doing 390, a long way from 450 and i don't think he's deadlifted 600 either, all i've seen him do is in the mid 500's and he still looks miles better than you.
615 deadlift
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: wavelength on November 09, 2008, 12:07:59 PM
epic jealousy of my panda power  :'(

Don't cry, I'm pretty sure you're a strong mofo.
PS.: don't you have an exam to learn for?
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: mazrim on November 09, 2008, 12:14:36 PM
i agree jrod blows layne away.

you have to wonder though is he really natural  :-\
I believe he is (who knows really). I just can't believe that Layne appears to get so out of shape in the offseason and weighs like 20 lbs more than him while being only an inch taller and is dominated by him. Maybe that is why he needs so long to diet down.
Sporto (Tommy Jeffers) appears in better shape than Layne off-season as well. I hope it is just genetics and not his knowledge as I do base some of what I do on his thoughts.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: TacoBell on November 09, 2008, 12:45:58 PM
615 deadlift


Bwahahahahahaha what a douche
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: tbombz on November 09, 2008, 12:48:40 PM
genetics

blah


shut your mouth


layne is one of the best NATURALS on the planet


if you dont think he looks god our delsuional or jaded...your expectations of the natural huma body are unrealistic..your naive.. etc etc etc
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: musclehedz on November 09, 2008, 12:57:55 PM
He uses drugs before a competition. Still he looks like shit.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: johnnynoname on November 09, 2008, 01:00:10 PM
He uses drugs before a competition. Still he looks like shit.

maybe, but imho, it just looks like a guy who diets, does his cardio and tans

nothing unusual
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: ASJChaotic on November 09, 2008, 01:01:09 PM
maybe, but imho, it just looks like a guy who diets, does his cardio and tans

nothing unusual
how do you explain the sudden appear of muscle on his body then Julian?
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Boost on November 09, 2008, 01:03:48 PM
genetics

blah



shut your mouth


layne is one of the best NATURALS on the planet




if you dont think he looks god our delsuional or jaded...your expectations of the natural huma body are unrealistic..your naive.. etc etc etc
What are you trying to say?
Layne gets super shredded, but we are all saying that he doesnt have the genetics for the  greatest muscle shape or bone structure.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Canadian_Muscle on November 09, 2008, 01:34:21 PM
Bottom line is, Layne knows his shit. His clients always look top notch on stage.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: ASJChaotic on November 09, 2008, 01:35:25 PM
Bottom line is, Layne knows his shit. His clients always look top notch on stage.
I wonder how much he charges them
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: DK II on November 09, 2008, 01:36:30 PM
Enough.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Canadian_Muscle on November 09, 2008, 01:38:46 PM
I wonder how much he charges them

I think his price is probably very reasonable.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: DK II on November 09, 2008, 01:41:39 PM
Probably.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Fatpanda on November 09, 2008, 01:50:24 PM
Layne does appear to hold more muscle on stage (more than just the visual change from low bf) his chest is clearly bigger on stage - in a calories deficit this is very difficult

Don't cry, I'm pretty sure you're a strong mofo.
PS.: don't you have an exam to learn for?

no exam all finished  :)
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: wavelength on November 09, 2008, 01:51:18 PM
Layne does appear to hold more muscle on stage (more than just the visual change from low bf) his chest is clearly bigger on stage - in a calories deficit this is very difficult

no exam all finished  :)

Ha! all good?
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Fatpanda on November 09, 2008, 01:51:57 PM
Ha! all good?

yes 8) well sort of  :-\
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: wavelength on November 09, 2008, 02:00:45 PM
yes 8) well sort of  :-\

hmmm, party mode, yes or yes? ;D
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Method101 on November 09, 2008, 02:01:04 PM
That guy on the right looks like a ripped malemodel.

(http://i33.tinypic.com/29zq35d.jpg)



hi matc
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Fatpanda on November 09, 2008, 02:02:30 PM
hmmm, party mode, yes or yes? ;D
yes, but having no money makes it hard  :(

hopefully in a week or 2 it will all be sorted.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: wavelength on November 09, 2008, 02:17:15 PM
yes, but having no money makes it hard  :(

hopefully in a week or 2 it will all be sorted.

Who needs money when there's Getbig! :D
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: mazrim on November 09, 2008, 02:28:01 PM
I wonder how much he charges them
Why don't you just ask/e-mail him? I did and got a sheet with his rates on it.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: ASJChaotic on November 09, 2008, 02:36:44 PM
Layne Norton is no MemberX  ;)
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: njflex on November 09, 2008, 04:58:22 PM
matt c looks like he was dipped in madame tussauds wax museum and propped next to layne.can anyone have a more less expressive look.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: liberalismo on November 09, 2008, 06:49:45 PM
Layne Norton is one of the best natural bodybuilders on the planet.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: flagadajones on November 09, 2008, 06:53:19 PM
People don't wanna believe that some guys do have incredible genetics and don't even train.
You have all seen guys walking round with giant calves or forearms that have never done a calf raise or a wrist curl in their life.

Alot of people who train jsut don't want to believe that there are people out there....that look better than them.....without even training

so fucking true.

Layne just happen to not have the best genetics ever, and being a natural it shows, but he s still very respectable in my book just fro promoting something that is healthier than the fake crap sold by all the other juicers.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: 250goal on November 09, 2008, 08:42:21 PM
Anyone that screams and makes a scene like does would get their ass kicked in my gym.  The way his lifts caused a minute pec tear that made the idiot run to the nearest surgeon and have it repaired. 

He's about as much a nutritionist as Julia Childs.
Title: Re: This just shows it doesnt matter how much you know if your genetics sucks.
Post by: Tapeworm on November 10, 2008, 03:21:01 AM
Julia Child's The Way to Cook rocks.


I'm inclined to agree with the Swede on this one.  He's gained more than just definition.