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Title: Question for people with kids
Post by: Hereford on November 13, 2008, 09:37:47 AM
Are kids really worth it? Are they worth the sacrafices and cost?

You seem to hear a 50/50 split on them being 'better than life itself' and really major downers.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: dan18 on November 13, 2008, 09:42:45 AM
Are kids really worth it? Are they worth the sacrafices and cost?

You seem to hear a 50/50 split on them being 'better than life itself' and really major downers.

Thoughts?

I  have 2 boys 8 and 5 greatest thing in the world and the hardest at times. To see a child grow and learn from you is great.A nd before i start sprouting flowers out of my ass ill stop there ;D
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: The Coach on November 13, 2008, 09:46:14 AM
Are kids really worth it? Are they worth the sacrafices and cost?

You seem to hear a 50/50 split on them being 'better than life itself' and really major downers.

Thoughts?

Yes, they are worth it (whatever thats supposed to mean). You make it sound like you're buying a car.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: Hereford on November 13, 2008, 09:48:07 AM
Yes, they are worth it (whatever thats supposed to mean). You make it sound like you're buying a car.

Everything in life should be looked at in terms of the big picture Coach.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on November 13, 2008, 09:50:49 AM
I hear once you have kids you feel a sense of immortality, simply because who you are runs through them.
I couldnt see myself not having kids one day, that would be one of the biggest tragedies in my life.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: dan18 on November 13, 2008, 09:55:32 AM
Everything in life should be looked at in terms of the big picture Coach.
Then you're life will suck even though deep down inside you may never admit it.
  example after my 1st son i was happy and content my wife wanted 1 more i didn't
i just thought of no sleep, dipears ,money, if it wasn't for her we never would have had my 2nd boy because i was to busy looking at the big picture...
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: ASJChaotic on November 13, 2008, 09:58:32 AM
you never played the Sims did you?  :D
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: Hereford on November 13, 2008, 10:03:56 AM
you never played the Sims did you?  :D

Don't spend a lot of time playing video games, no.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: ASJChaotic on November 13, 2008, 10:06:24 AM
Don't spend a lot of time playing video games, no.
fun game, you can have a partner, have kids etc
then you'll have to care for the kid
it's like real life



as for myself, I'll want kids someday, the house would be quiet without them  ;)
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: Condor on November 13, 2008, 10:06:57 AM
My daughter is turning 1 tomorrow.

Best thing in the world. 
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: dov on November 13, 2008, 10:09:28 AM
fun game, you can have a partner, have kids etc
then you'll have to care for the kid
it's like real life



as for myself, I'll want kids someday, the house would be quiet without them  ;)
Please, for the sake of mankind...don't reproduce. Morons like you, however, love to breed another group of morons..It really seems to be a viscious cycle with the most ignorant ass people :-\
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: ASJChaotic on November 13, 2008, 10:10:54 AM
Please, for the sake of mankind...don't reproduce. Morons like you, however, love to breed another group of morons..It really seems to be a viscious cycle with the most ignorant ass people :-\
I own your mind soon to be "Bottom Boy"
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: dan18 on November 13, 2008, 10:19:08 AM
fun game, you can have a partner, have kids etc
then you'll have to care for the kid
it's like real life  


as for myself, I'll want kids someday, the house would be quiet without them  ;)
YOU HAVE NO CLUE when i come home and my boys come running yelling papas home.It can bring even the toughest man to his knees   
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: ASJChaotic on November 13, 2008, 10:21:59 AM
YOU HAVE NO CLUE when i come home and my boys come running yelling papas home.It can bring even the toughest man to his knees   
exactly, children are a joy of life  ;)

I catch alot of shit for being 19, not fucking random whores, wanting to get married and have kids someday
but that's just how I am  :)
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: pumpster on November 13, 2008, 10:24:35 AM
All that you're seeing here is the usual split between those whose lives seem to revolve around kids and those who could care less. Mostly comes down to existing preferences.

There's another middle group that isn't sure either way, that generally has to go thru it to find out. Ends up either thrilled and greatly surprised by having kidz around, or abhor the experience. In those cases you almost have to try it to find out, or be smart and do a lot of babysitting of others kidz and hanging out with those who have em to try to get the flavor before pulling the trigger. ;)
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: bigdumbbell on November 13, 2008, 10:25:08 AM
Are kids really worth it? Are they worth the sacrafices and cost?

You seem to hear a 50/50 split on them being 'better than life itself' and really major downers.

Thoughts?
yes, my kids are special because they will decide what nursing home i'll be in   lol
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: dan18 on November 13, 2008, 10:29:26 AM
All that you're seeing here is the usual split between those whose lives seem to revolve around kids and those who could care less. Mostly comes down to existing preferences, though there IS a middle group that isn't sure either way and either is thrilled and surprised by having kidz and those who abhor the experience.
That holds alot of truth i started late in life my oldest is 8 and im 42. wasnt ready early on in life.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: drkaje on November 13, 2008, 10:31:31 AM
Kids are great. Irony is... I enjoy them so much more being divorced, LOL!
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: Hereford on November 13, 2008, 10:34:46 AM
All that you're seeing here is the usual split between those whose lives seem to revolve around kids and those who could care less. Mostly comes down to existing preferences.

There's another middle group that isn't sure either way, that generally has to go thru it to find out. Ends up either thrilled and greatly surprised by having kidz around, or abhor the experience. In those cases you almost have to try it to find out, or be smart and do a lot of babysitting of others kidz and hanging out with those who have em to try to get the flavor before pulling the trigger. ;)

My position. Hence, the question.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: Buffgeek on November 13, 2008, 10:37:56 AM
I finally realized why I was put on this earth when my son was born.

Being a father is to the the greatest thing I have ever done.  Its amazing when you think about when you were a kid what your thoughts and fears were and then hepling your kids with those same issues.

Its not always a cake walk, but its unbeliveably rewarding. I never thought I would have fun watching someone else do rides at the carnival or running around on a playground or watching kiddie movies at the theatre.

You really learn alot about youself when you have kids. Sometimes you get so pissed you want to explode, but you gotta remember you are the adult and they are the child and they are looking at you for guidance and boundries.

I have two boys and man they are a blast. very different personalities too.

Its funny it makes me feel sorry for my parents, because I know i was a little shit.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: pumpster on November 13, 2008, 10:39:33 AM
My position. Hence, the question.

Answered. You're not gonna find out much from the polar extremes. Do the research to get as close to the experience as possible thru 3rd parties first. Read, talk to those undecideds who eventually went one way or the other, and in particular, put yourself into contexts with parents and kidz for long periods of times to experience the pluses and minuses during different parts of the week and during holidays. Direct experience coupled with dialogue and some reading on various parenting online boards/books.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: Buffgeek on November 13, 2008, 10:43:22 AM
Are kids really worth it? Are they worth the sacrafices and cost?

You seem to hear a 50/50 split on them being 'better than life itself' and really major downers.

Thoughts?

Depends on the attitude you go on it with also...  I dont consider them a sacrifice at all and if you do, you should wait until you are good and ready.

We were married 6 years before we had kids. We went to Eupope twice, went snowboarding, mountain biking every year and just generally had a lot of fun. Take your time and be ready for it imo.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: Mydavid on November 13, 2008, 10:46:57 AM
I love my 2 daughters but i'm extremely tired now after the second one...i had the first at 29 and the second at 39...2 dad's ;D and that's why they are far in part at age. I looked the best in my life at 35ish but now after being tired my body has gone to pot :'(
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: Big Worm on November 13, 2008, 10:49:53 AM
Everything in life should be looked at in terms of the big picture Coach.
If that's the case ??? You're parents Phucked up!
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: pumpster on November 13, 2008, 10:54:55 AM
I love my 2 daughters but i'm extremely tired now after the second one...i had the first at 29 and the second at 39...2 dad's ;D and that's why they are far in part at age. I looked the best in my life at 35ish but now after being tired my body has gone to pot :'(

Work on getting the baggage over with, then with the right workout/diet program you'll be surprised how good you can still look. Actually, some women look better in middle-age.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on November 13, 2008, 11:01:09 AM
I love my 2 daughters but i'm extremely tired now after the second one...i had the first at 29 and the second at 39...2 dad's ;D  

slut :P :D

Are kids really worth it? Are they worth the sacrafices and cost?

You bet they're worth it.  Are they a pain in the ass much of the time?  Sure.  But like everything in life, it's a trade-off, good times for bad, etc.  In the end, they are a real hoot and you forget the not so great times when you're having a blast with them.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: Hereford on November 13, 2008, 11:04:37 AM
Pandae you have two, right?

What ages are the best?
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: Grape Ape on November 13, 2008, 11:07:10 AM
My position. Hence, the question.

It's very difficult to convey the message to people who don't have kids.  Before I had them, I was "meh" on them in general.

Now, though, I know they're the greatest thing in the world.  Totally, totally worth it.

Yes, your bench will go down for some time, but it comes back.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: Buffgeek on November 13, 2008, 11:16:35 AM
Pandae you have two, right?

What ages are the best?

First 3 months suck ass imo... better much better after that.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: drkaje on November 13, 2008, 11:19:09 AM
There's definitely an age where people should stop, though. Why someone would want to be hitting soccer games at 50 is beyond me.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: pumpster on November 13, 2008, 11:19:32 AM
First 3 months suck ass imo... better much better after that.

Only 3? I thought the all-night wailing goes on for a year or more.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: Ron on November 13, 2008, 11:25:18 AM
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Are kids really worth it? Are they worth the sacrafices and cost? You seem to hear a 50/50 split on them being 'better than life itself' and really major downers. Thoughts?

I have two kids. My daughter just turned 5 Nov 8th, my son is 2 1/2.  If you are ready for kids, and you need to have the commitment to be there for them, it is so worth it.  I love being a father. Absolutely love it.  Reading books to them, playing games, being there for them. Unreal. It is the best feeling in the world when your kids says they love you.

But before we had kids, we traveled around a lot, went out a ton, did a lot of stuff you cant do when the kids are around. Life changes completely.  Some of your friends that dont have kids don't understand it. But again, we didn't have kids until we were in our 30s.

Yes, of course, there are the things I don't like. Changing diapers, waking up in the middle of the night when one calls, getting up really early in the morning, and sometimes, you wish you can just sleep, but going through it all, it is the best.


Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: Grape Ape on November 13, 2008, 11:26:47 AM
First 3 months suck ass imo... better much better after that.

Agreed.  They eat, sleep, cry, and shit.  Mostly cry.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: Hereford on November 13, 2008, 11:29:03 AM
No tricks even?
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: Buffgeek on November 13, 2008, 11:36:50 AM
Only 3? I thought the all-night wailing goes on for a year or more.

naw both of our boys started going down at about 6:00-6:30pm. fairly early. We had to let our first cry it out when he got a little older for a few nights, but he adapted pretty quickly other than late night feedings.

Thank god men cannot breat feed!  ;D
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: Grape Ape on November 13, 2008, 11:58:05 AM
No tricks even?

Some people think their kids smile at them at that age, but it's just gas.  At 5-6 months, they actually start to do stuff.  Then, it's really cool from that point on.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: WeightPSHR on November 13, 2008, 12:03:37 PM
Only the parents will understand this...

You will love nothing else in life the way you love a child.

Being a dedicated parent, making sure that you offer your children the best life you can, will make you prouder than anything else in life.






Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: dan18 on November 13, 2008, 12:06:58 PM
Some people think their kids smile at them at that age, but it's just gas.  At 5-6 months, they actually start to do stuff.  Then, it's really cool from that point on.
HAHAAH SO TRUE  my little one dylan hes 5 he farted the other day loud as hell we were laughing for like 20 min.Kids do the funiest shit ever even when they do shit that should make me mad i just think ''hell i was 10 times worse''
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: DIVISION on November 13, 2008, 12:17:31 PM
Then you're life will suck even though deep down inside you may never admit it.
  example after my 1st son i was happy and content my wife wanted 1 more i didn't
i just thought of no sleep, dipears ,money, if it wasn't for her we never would have had my 2nd boy because i was to busy looking at the big picture...

You let your wife bully you in to having another kid?

How persistent are women when they want another child? ???


DIV
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: dan18 on November 13, 2008, 12:22:27 PM
You let your wife bully you in to having another kid?

How persistent are women when they want another child? ???


DIV
wasnt like that i was so worried about all the little things that i almost missed out on having a second child....I was being just thinking about not wanting to wake up in the middle of the night changing them again money.....she wasnt being a pest about it....thank god we did because my wife couldnt have any more kids after dylan if i would have waited any longer we wouldnt have had him...
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: DIVISION on November 13, 2008, 12:25:47 PM
Kids are great. Irony is... I enjoy them so much more being divorced, LOL!

Let go of your hate, Jake.

That only leads to the Darkside.



DIV
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: DIVISION on November 13, 2008, 12:29:52 PM
wasnt like that i was so worried about all the little things that i almost missed out on having a second child....I was being just thinking about not wanting to wake up in the middle of the night changing them again money.....she wasnt being a pest about it....thank god we did because my wife couldnt have any more kids after dylan if i would have waited any longer we wouldnt have had him...

I just know women can be a "pest" about things...........   ::)




DIV
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: dan18 on November 13, 2008, 12:32:28 PM
I just know women can be a "pest" about things...........   ::)




DIV
Its in there DNA ... ;D pest gene
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: DIVISION on November 13, 2008, 12:44:57 PM
Its in there DNA ... ;D pest gene

Can't you negotiate it out of them?

For instance, if she wants more kids, negotiate for more anal sex.....

Wouldn't that work?   ???



DIV
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: dan18 on November 13, 2008, 12:50:00 PM
Can't you negotiate it out of them?

For instance, if she wants more kids, negotiate for more anal sex.....

Wouldn't that work?   ???



DIV
I get it we still have sex 3 or 4 times a week even after 11 years together ;D shes hot italian and spanish
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: drkaje on November 13, 2008, 01:01:44 PM
Let go of your hate, Jake.

That only leads to the Darkside.



DIV

What hate?

Having the kids to myself is just plain more enjoyable. Stating a simple fact isn't reason for analysis, LOL! Most divorced guys, who aren't dealing with any drama, have the same opinion.

Actually, I think most people keep up the drama to preserve their self-esteem/image. They have to make sure things don't get too quiet and you find yourself feel happier without them. :)

Anyone stupid enough to sit around being unhappy or bitter is cheating their children and themselves.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: pumpster on November 13, 2008, 01:07:22 PM
I just know women can be a "pest" about things...........   ::)




DIV

Epic "DIV" baggage on display once again. ;)
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: brent2741 on November 13, 2008, 01:30:06 PM
even at their worst, they are worth more than you will ever know. Unfortunately only someone with kids can understand how much your children mean to you
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: nycbull on November 13, 2008, 01:38:27 PM
I read a study once that said the majority of people that had kids wished they didnt have kids or wished they had less kids.

That is probably true because most parents suck at being parents...but if you are a committed loving parent I think it must be the most rewarding thing in life.
I love my niece and nephew and cant imagine how great it would be to have my own...Yea the are a lot of work
but all the love that is exchanged is worth it, and having a family when you get older and possible loss your spouse is priceless.

But I do think that all parents should be licensed to have a kid, have to take mandatory classes in child care and child welfare, learn the best techniques to developing their brains and morals, and absolutlely commit to never fighting in front of their kids because that is the number one thing that fucks kids up.

If get their license in being a parent then they get a tax break., if they dont no tax break simple as that....I think it will be good for the country in the long run.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: pumpster on November 13, 2008, 01:49:17 PM
But I do think that all parents should be licensed to have a kid, have to take mandatory classes in child care and child welfare, learn the best techniques to developing their brains and morals, and absolutlely commit to never fighting in front of their kids because that is the number one thing that fucks kids up.

If get their license in being a parent then they get a tax break., if they dont no tax break simple as that....I think it will be good for the country in the long run.

The more of that the better, just as marriage councelling prior to getting married is effective.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on November 13, 2008, 01:50:21 PM
Are kids really worth it? Are they worth the sacrafices and cost?

You seem to hear a 50/50 split on them being 'better than life itself' and really major downers.

Thoughts?

Once you finish school, marry, buy a house, take care of that major shit there's nothing left to do but have kids. IF you enjoy being a parent is mostly up to how selfish you are as a person. I personally love it.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: drkaje on November 13, 2008, 01:54:48 PM
Once you finish school, marry, buy a house, take care of that major shit there's nothing left to do but have kids. IF you enjoy being a parent is mostly up to how selfish you are as a person. I personally love it.

Most people do the process backwards and half-assed, LOL! They end up with too much stress to enjoy the kids.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: pumpster on November 13, 2008, 01:55:10 PM
IF you enjoy being a parent is mostly up to how selfish you are as a person. I personally love it.

Nah it's simplistic to put down those who don't want em as selfish. Having kids is evidentally a major pain and expense that is worth it to those who are in love with the idea or are converts, having already fully sampled singlehood.

Parenthood radically changes the relationship to mom n dad and is a major cause of divorce. The relationship changes big-time, the high rate of divorce reflects the large numbers who don't like/can't handle it.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: gordiano on November 13, 2008, 01:59:32 PM
I  have 2 boys 8 and 5 greatest thing in the world and the hardest at times. To see a child grow and learn from you is great.A nd before i start sprouting flowers out of my ass ill stop there ;D

Well said.

Someone once told me, that "I had never loved until I had kids." That person was right. Women/wives come and go. You think you know them, and then it turns out you really don't (those of you who have divorced know what I mean).

But your kids.....man, there's nothing that could make me stop loving them. Sometimes I can't stop laughing and smiling at the things they do. Sometimes, they make me want to rip my fucking hair out. What I do know is this; I wouldn't trade them for anything.

It is a shame that people just go around having kids like they have coffee. It is a great experience in life, that should be cherished. Unfortunately, I see too many around me having kids, when they can't even take care of themselves (not just financially).

It amazes me that we need a license to drive, to build a house, sometimes to work. But ANY TWO-BIT NUMBNUT WITH A 75 IQ CAN GO AROUND POPPING KIDS WITHOUT A PROBLEM.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: Ron on November 13, 2008, 02:12:15 PM
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Agreed. They eat, sleep, cry, and shit. Mostly cry.

Are you talking about you or the baby?

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You will love nothing else in life the way you love a child.  Being a dedicated parent, making sure that you offer your children the best life you can, will make you prouder than anything else in life.


Very true

Quote
Once you finish school, marry, buy a house, take care of that major shit there's nothing left to do but have kids. IF you enjoy being a parent is mostly up to how selfish you are as a person. I personally love it.


You do need to know worry about your basic needs (food, clothes, housing) and have a little so you dont stress out. I think once you get over that hurdle, and have some money in the bank, it is a lot easier.  But yes, parents should take some sort of class to at least learn a little. 
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: ManBearPig... on November 13, 2008, 02:13:07 PM
That holds alot of truth i started late in life my oldest is 8 and im 42. wasnt ready early on in life.

hey at least you realized it's better to wait than pound away and then live on credit cards the rest of your life.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: flagadajones on November 13, 2008, 02:13:51 PM
Are kids really worth it? Are they worth the sacrafices and cost?

You seem to hear a 50/50 split on them being 'better than life itself' and really major downers.

Thoughts?

please, never make any children, thanks in advance,


the society.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: leonp1981 on November 13, 2008, 02:15:06 PM
Kids are awesome, my boy will be 5 in a couple of weeks and I wouldn't change a thing.  I was only 22 when he was born and I was shitting myself about it, thinking I wouldn't be able to cope, would we have somewhere to live, would we have enough money, etc.  But as soon as he arrived, it didn't seem to matter.

5 years on and everything is fantastic.  He goes to school, comes home and tells me stuff he's learnt, and nothing in the world makes you prouder than that.

Anyone thinking about kids needs to be serious about it.  They are a huge drain on emotions and resources, and the first couple of years are very difficult.  But the rewards are so much greater than anything you've ever experienced.

On a side note, there are too many idiots and scumbags who just keep popping out kids who they don't want.  It makes me sick when there are parents who don't care for their children.  Some people are just unable to care for a child and should be sterilised.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: ManBearPig... on November 13, 2008, 02:18:54 PM
like i said in the other thread, for the 99.99 percent of us posters here that are dudes (some do walk the line though, hi tbombz) it takes being a "man" to have a kid.

like queerstreet cruiser mentioned, once you get your shit in order (order being what life in america's supposed to be, house, job, school, etc) then you have kids.  it's the right thing to do.

i however am not ready yet.  i can't even stick my tiny penis in a vagina cuz my gut gets in the way.

and what's this shit Ron? only 2 kids ? maybe that you claimed on your taxes.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: DIVISION on November 13, 2008, 02:25:54 PM
I get it we still have sex 3 or 4 times a week even after 11 years together ;D shes hot italian and spanish

My first girlfriend was a pale Italian girl.........she was great, very jealous, but god that body.....

I'm Hispanic, but I rarely date Latin women.....not really my flavor.

What hate?

Having the kids to myself is just plain more enjoyable. Stating a simple fact isn't reason for analysis, LOL! Most divorced guys, who aren't dealing with any drama, have the same opinion.

Actually, I think most people keep up the drama to preserve their self-esteem/image. They have to make sure things don't get too quiet and you find yourself feel happier without them. :)

Anyone stupid enough to sit around being unhappy or bitter is cheating their children and themselves.

Your ex-wife could use some of this advice, Jake.

Stereotypes of a black male, misunderstood, and it's still all good.

Epic "DIV" baggage on display once again. ;)

Damn right, I like the life I live 'cause I went from negative to positive.

.....and if ya' don't know ya' know, nugga!   ;D





DIV
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: newmom on November 13, 2008, 02:58:33 PM
I love my daughter and was a pure blessings, sure she drives me nuts at times,but I cannot picture my life without her. She brings me joy and happiness. She is now 3 and learining, sings alphabets and numbers and loves to learn. Its fun to shop for her for xmas and this year she gets the whole santa thing. I cannot wait to see her xmas day. She has written a letter to santa, you cant read it but she tries to write. She loves to help me clean (gets in the way mostly). Feeds her goldfishes every morning and is dressing herself now (I told her she is a big girl and wont help her unless she really needs it)
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on November 13, 2008, 03:02:41 PM
Nah it's simplistic to put down those who don't want em as selfish. Having kids is evidentally a major pain and expense that is worth it to those who are in love with the idea or are converts, having already fully sampled singlehood.

Parenthood radically changes the relationship to mom n dad and is a major cause of divorce. The relationship changes big-time, the high rate of divorce reflects the large numbers who don't like/can't handle it.

Don't look at "selfish" as a good or bad thing. If you'd rather party or travel the world for leisure than be a mentor to your child or reproduce that's selfish haha
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: Viking11 on November 13, 2008, 03:08:30 PM
Yes its worth it. Its the biggest joy you will probably have. Its also the hardest job in the world, and the biggest responsibilty you will have. So, if you're not sure, or not ready, wait.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: pumpster on November 13, 2008, 03:15:29 PM
like queerstreet cruiser mentioned, once you get your shit in order (order being what life in america's supposed to be, house, job, school, etc) then you have kids.  it's the right thing to do.


Um, no. The "right" thing to do according to you is what gets the wrong people popping kids.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: pumpster on November 13, 2008, 03:17:08 PM
I love my daughter and was a pure blessings, sure she drives me nuts at times,but I cannot picture my life without her. She brings me joy and happiness. She is now 3 and learining, sings alphabets and numbers and loves to learn. Its fun to shop for her for xmas and this year she gets the whole santa thing. I cannot wait to see her xmas day. She has written a letter to santa, you cant read it but she tries to write. She loves to help me clean (gets in the way mostly). Feeds her goldfishes every morning and is dressing herself now (I told her she is a big girl and wont help her unless she really needs it)

Most women appear preprogrammed to want em, making the post moot to doods with more balanced lifestyle issues.
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: CAPTAIN INSANO on November 13, 2008, 04:00:47 PM
Please, for the sake of mankind...don't reproduce. Morons like you, however, love to breed another group of morons..It really seems to be a viscious cycle with the most ignorant ass people :-\

Brutal littering of the gene pool with shitty ahab genetics ;D ;D
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: Earl1972 on November 13, 2008, 04:12:37 PM
seems like all the parents here have young kids

I hear the toughest time for a parent is when they are teenagers

i also hear that is when parents start to regret having kids ;)

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Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: The Coach on November 13, 2008, 08:17:33 PM
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: gordiano on November 14, 2008, 02:02:01 AM


What in the blue hell is this shit?! It sounded like country, which makes my ears bleed.... >:(
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: pumpster on November 14, 2008, 02:06:19 AM
What in the blue hell is this shit?! It sounded like country, which makes my ears bleed.... >:(

Oh man, another coach "classic" lol
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: windsor88 on November 14, 2008, 02:07:59 AM
Coach,  do you line dance?
Title: Re: Question for people with kids
Post by: Condor on November 14, 2008, 03:24:18 AM
Yes its worth it. Its the biggest joy you will probably have. Its also the hardest job in the world, and the biggest responsibilty you will have. So, if you're not sure, or not ready, wait.

I disagree to some extent.  I wasn't ready (our daughter was a "surprise").  I was forced to become ready, and I'm very thankful for that.  If it had been up to me, I probably would have waited way too long and put it off until I was much older.  I'm 30 now and I'm glad that I'm a parent at this age.  The only thing that should hold you back is if you cannot financially provide for the child.