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Title: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: Rami on November 15, 2008, 04:11:35 PM
How many grams of protein do you eat per day? And what sources?

And how much olive oil?

Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: philborg on November 15, 2008, 04:22:09 PM
none, it's illegal
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: ozman on November 15, 2008, 04:23:22 PM
prolly around 200 grams

weekdays mostly chicken

weekends red meat
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: El_Pajero on November 15, 2008, 04:27:50 PM
prolly around 200 grams

weekdays mostly chicken

weekends red meat

do you hate your kidneys?
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: MAXX on November 15, 2008, 04:31:42 PM
How many grams of protein do you eat per day? And what sources?

And how much olive oil?



around 300 g protein.. fish, chicken and egg mostly.

olive oil dunno poor some over the chicken in the oven but it's not much...
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: Deicide on November 15, 2008, 04:32:50 PM
2 grams per kg. 75% of it from Protein shakes.
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: aglifter on November 15, 2008, 04:35:21 PM
About two pounds of meat a day (lean beef brisket, chicken), whey protein, milk.

I drink olive oil straight up, but less than JF.
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: ozman on November 15, 2008, 04:37:45 PM
do you hate your kidneys?

K
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: tbombz on November 15, 2008, 04:49:44 PM
Sity thousand grams per day.
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: wavelength on November 15, 2008, 04:54:30 PM
1g/lb LBM
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: TommyBoy on November 15, 2008, 04:56:11 PM
I aim for 200g a day. I hit that more or less each day give or take 40g in either direction.

do you hate your kidneys?

...what?
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on November 15, 2008, 04:57:02 PM
These days,100 grams max. In my crazy days 600 grams max.
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: Jeffro on November 15, 2008, 05:00:09 PM
Sity thousand grams per day.
And this is mostly "man protein" straight from the tap, correct?  :-X
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: tbombz on November 15, 2008, 05:04:36 PM
yeah of course what else would it be
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: mass 04 on November 15, 2008, 05:05:49 PM
And this is mostly "man protein" straight from the tap, correct?  :-X
original ::)
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: honest on November 15, 2008, 05:06:27 PM
150 to 200 but im in retired mode, not enough to grow but enough to maintain what size i want to hang on to.
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: Jeffro on November 15, 2008, 05:13:18 PM
original ::)
Oh brother, calm down "mass 04," I wasn't addressing you. ::) 

Candi didn't seem to get offended, why did you?  Is it a "sore" subject for you?  :-X
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: mass 04 on November 15, 2008, 05:18:46 PM
Oh brother, calm down "mass 04," I wasn't addressing you. ::) 

Candi didn't seem to get offended, why did you?  Is it a "sore" subject for you?  :-X
haha another recycled 2006 SQUAD line. Come up with some stuff on your own.
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: io856 on November 15, 2008, 05:24:37 PM
400-500 grams
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: io856 on November 15, 2008, 05:25:36 PM
And this is mostly "man protein" straight from the tap, correct?  :-X
::)
Theres like almost no protein in semen that line is fucking retarded
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: El_Pajero on November 15, 2008, 05:28:19 PM
::)
Theres like almost no protein in semen that line is fucking retarded


sure  ::) how come most pro bodybuilders are huge then
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: ASJChaotic on November 15, 2008, 05:29:47 PM
100 grams a day
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: El_Pajero on November 15, 2008, 05:34:12 PM
100 grams a day

Bullshit, you claimed to drink 3 liters of chocolatemilk a day to bulk up.
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: tbombz on November 15, 2008, 05:35:26 PM
sure  ::) how come most pro bodybuilders are huge then
hahahahah
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: Jeffro on November 15, 2008, 05:36:00 PM
haha another recycled 2006 SQUAD line. Come up with some stuff on your own.
Why are you so cranky tonight?
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: ASJChaotic on November 15, 2008, 05:36:28 PM
Bullshit, you claimed to drink 3 liters of chocolatemilk a day to bulk up.
yes, on somedays I do drink 3 liters of chocolate milk and eat 15,000 calories for the day
but even 3 liters of chocolate milk have 108 grams of protein

on an average day I get 100 grams of protein, that's it, you don't need 500 grams a day
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: El_Pajero on November 15, 2008, 05:37:44 PM
yes, on somedays I do drink 3 liters of chocolate milk and eat 15,000 calories for the day
but even 3 liters of chocolate milk have 108 grams of protein

on an average day I get 100 grams of protein, that's it, you don't need 500 grams a day

15.000 calories? show me your food schedule
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on November 15, 2008, 05:38:02 PM
yes, on somedays I do drink 3 liters of chocolate milk and eat 15,000 calories for the day
but even 3 liters of chocolate milk have 108 grams of protein

on an average day I get 100 grams of protein, that's it, you don't need 500 grams a day
u especially need more protein or aminos or something-u are scrawny...christian bale machinist skinny
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: Bast000 on November 15, 2008, 05:39:24 PM
15000 calories is like $40 worth of food.
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: Jeffro on November 15, 2008, 05:41:19 PM
yes, on somedays I do drink 3 liters of chocolate milk and eat 15,000 calories for the day
but even 3 liters of chocolate milk have 108 grams of protein

on an average day I get 100 grams of protein, that's it, you don't need 500 grams a day
The blood's in the water... :-\
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: El_Pajero on November 15, 2008, 05:41:51 PM
u especially need more protein or aminos or something-u are scrawny...christian bale machinist skinny

settle down gene.

well if he really is 7 foot tall he needs a lot of calories to gain weight
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: ASJChaotic on November 15, 2008, 05:54:12 PM
15.000 calories? show me your food schedule

on SOMEDAYS I go crazy like that, 15,000 calories, once a week all fast food, icecream a whole cake etc...
most days I'm eating 4000-4500 calories a day
100-150 grams of protein
50-100 grams of fats
700-800 grams of carbs



This is just to maintain my weight by the way
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: windsor88 on November 15, 2008, 06:04:10 PM
on SOMEDAYS I go crazy like that, 15,000 calories, once a week all fast food, icecream a whole cake etc...
most days I'm eating 4000-4500 calories a day
100-150 grams of protein
50-100 grams of fats
700-800 grams of carbs



This is just to maintain my weight by the way

sounds like a winning diet plan.  How do you think this worked out for you on GB3?  will you be doing the same diet routine for GB4?
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: ASJChaotic on November 15, 2008, 06:09:20 PM
sounds like a winning diet plan.  How do you think this worked out for you on GB3?  will you be doing the same diet routine for GB4?
I didn't diet, I love eating food, I love eatig alot of food, I TRIED to diet for GB3, but my body wanted food badly
for GB4 I'll have an extra 30 pounds of muscle and will be less than 4% bodyfat
I promise you that
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: windsor88 on November 15, 2008, 06:18:19 PM
I didn't diet, I love eating food, I love eatig alot of food, I TRIED to diet for GB3, but my body wanted food badly
for GB4 I'll have an extra 30 pounds of muscle and will be less than 4% bodyfat
I promise you that


I will bet anything that you will not gain 30 lbs of muscle and be 4% bf in a year staying natural. 

I don't think even roids will help you in that short of time.
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: ASJChaotic on November 15, 2008, 06:21:43 PM
I will bet anything that you will not gain 30 lbs of muscle and be 4% bf in a year staying natural. 

I don't think even roids will help you in that short of time.

you're not considering the fact that I have only been half ass training for 9 months
and have a 6 foot 7 frame thus can gain alot of muscle
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: windsor88 on November 15, 2008, 06:24:41 PM
you're not considering the fact that I have only been half ass training for 9 months
and have a 6 foot 7 frame thus can gain alot of muscle


You should PM Tbombz he will get you there.
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: io856 on November 15, 2008, 06:25:52 PM
You should PM Tbombz he will get you there.
tbombz knows his shit
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: tbombz on November 15, 2008, 06:27:26 PM
not unless he likes needles and meat  ;D
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: io856 on November 15, 2008, 06:29:10 PM
compliance is definatley an issue for a guy like AXA... he won't listen

Also with the name Ahmud Javashin or whatever it is and living in Canada. It makes things a lot harder if he wants to take bodybuilding seriously.
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: tbombz on November 15, 2008, 06:31:11 PM
imagine yourself a  post office worker holding packs coming from third world countries addressed to Ahmud Javashin    ;D
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: mass 04 on November 15, 2008, 06:31:30 PM
you're not considering the fact that I have only been half ass training for 9 months
and have a 6 foot 7 frame thus can gain alot of muscle

honestly dude it will take years to fill out a frame that big. once you do you'll be a monster but its gonna take a lot of consistent hard work.
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: ASJChaotic on November 15, 2008, 06:33:46 PM
imagine yourself a  post office worker holding packs coming from third world countries addressed to Ahmud Javashin    ;D
you got my name wrong >:(  ;D ;D
I'm taking this seriously now, I'm gonna rule this motha f'n field
tbombz give me all your knowlege, amma need it  ;D
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: ASJChaotic on November 15, 2008, 06:35:59 PM
honestly dude it will take years to fill out a frame that big. once you do you'll be a monster but its gonna take a lot of consistent hard work.
yeah, I'm willing to put in the time, I'll get there
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: tbombz on November 15, 2008, 06:38:12 PM
k.i.s.s.

basics

high protein + high calories
whey before and during your workout/glucose during your workout
train intense, everything twice a week (hit each body part once every three or four days)
no alcohol or stimulants besides some caffiene pre workout
sleep good
test base + anabolics


 :)
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: io856 on November 15, 2008, 06:39:02 PM
yeah, I'm willing to put in the time, I'll get there
Noah Steere, Toney Freeman and more

they are tall dudes... its possible it just takes more time
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: ASJChaotic on November 15, 2008, 06:52:11 PM
k.i.s.s.

basics

high protein + high calories
whey before and during your workout/glucose during your workout
train intense, everything twice a week (hit each body part once every three or four days)
no alcohol or stimulants besides some caffiene pre workout
sleep good
test base + anabolics


 :)

 ??? LOL
can I buy that at the grocery store?  ;D
all seriousness, I want to be a lifetime natural and in the future compete in natural shows
maybe the world championships of natural bodybuilding someday
all those short 5 footers will get dwarfed once my frame is filled out
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: wavelength on November 15, 2008, 06:58:00 PM
k.i.s.s.

"keep it simple stupid" is what stupid people say when they cant grasp anything more than the basics

;D
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: tbombz on November 15, 2008, 06:58:45 PM
;D

hahahahahahahahahah


 ;D

good find

Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: wavelength on November 15, 2008, 07:00:10 PM
hahahahahahahahahah


 ;D

good find



wavelength remembers everything ;D
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: tbombz on November 15, 2008, 07:00:38 PM
??? LOL
can I buy that at the grocery store?  ;D
all seriousness, I want to be a lifetime natural and in the future compete in natural shows
maybe the world championships of natural bodybuilding someday
all those short 5 footers will get dwarfed once my frame is filled out


to optimize hormone levels naturally try a targeted ketogenic diet with  your only carb intake other than veggies and trace carbs being lots and lots of glucose pre intra and during workout. the rest of the day lots and lots of whole eggs read meat and veggies.  
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: io856 on November 15, 2008, 07:04:12 PM
also only jerk off once a week

"On day 7 of abstinence, a peak of serum testosterone appeared, reaching 145.7% of the baseline (P<0.01). After the peak, no regular fluctuation was observed. "

Jiang M. Periodic changes in serum testosterone levels after ejaculation in men.
Sheng Li Xue Bao. 2002 Dec 25;54(6):535-8.
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: ASJChaotic on November 15, 2008, 07:12:14 PM
to optimize hormone levels naturally try a targeted ketogenic diet with  your only carb intake other than veggies and trace carbs being lots and lots of glucose pre intra and during workout. the rest of the day lots and lots of whole eggs read meat and veggies.  
ketogenic diet? like the Anabolic diet?
is that for cutting or gaining muscle?
aren't ketogenic diets inefficient? protein gets converted to glucose by the liver and thus not used by the muscle
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: ASJChaotic on November 15, 2008, 07:16:27 PM
also only jerk off once a week

"On day 7 of abstinence, a peak of serum testosterone appeared, reaching 145.7% of the baseline (P<0.01). After the peak, no regular fluctuation was observed. "

Jiang M. Periodic changes in serum testosterone levels after ejaculation in men.
Sheng Li Xue Bao. 2002 Dec 25;54(6):535-8.

oh hell no, bodybuilding aint gonna f'n mess with my sex life  ;D
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 15, 2008, 07:20:49 PM
to optimize hormone levels naturally try a targeted ketogenic diet with  your only carb intake other than veggies and trace carbs being lots and lots of glucose pre intra and during workout. the rest of the day lots and lots of whole eggs read meat and veggies.  

Surprised to hear you recommend that.  I would add at least 200-300g of carbs spread throughout the day for someone trying to make gains.  I know you do a lot of research tho man, so why the carb restriction?
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: ASJChaotic on November 15, 2008, 07:26:33 PM
Surprised to hear you recommend that.  I would add at least 200-300g of carbs spread throughout the day for someone trying to make gains.  I know you do a lot of research tho man, so why the carb restriction?
I think because fats and proteins create an ideal hormonal environment
fats are great for test and etc
correct me if I'm wrong Candi
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 15, 2008, 07:32:14 PM
I think because fats and proteins create an ideal hormonal environment
fats are great for test and etc
correct me if I'm wrong Candi

I'm guessing this is one of those situations where just because a little bit is good, it doesn't mean a lot is great.  Seems reasonable to me that once sufficient material has been supplied for hormone production, that's it.  Adding more won't yield any further hormonal benefit.  I'm just guessing tho.

Besides, I find my intensity in the gym and overall energy levels suffer on low carbs.  Don't have any prob restricting carbs for fat loss, but it's not how I'd bulk.  Candi knows some shit tho, so I'm interested to hear his reasoning.
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: ASJChaotic on November 15, 2008, 07:34:34 PM
I'm guessing this is one of those situations where just because a little bit is good, it doesn't mean a lot is great.  Seems reasonable to me that once sufficient material has been supplied for hormone production, that's it.  Adding more won't yield any further hormonal benefit.  I'm just guessing tho.

Besides, I find my intensity in the gym and overall energy levels suffer on low carbs.  Don't have any prob restricting carbs for fat loss, but it's not how I'd bulk.  Candi knows some shit tho, so I'm interested to hear his reasoning.
well either way there is no way I'm going on a keto diet for a whole year
bodybuilding is a hobby and a big part of my life but it's not my entire life
lol
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: tbombz on November 15, 2008, 07:40:20 PM
i leaving to go out to a club for the night, and the response on that questions is quite detailed.

ill come back either late late tonight  like 3 am or tomorrow afternoon and respond.

untill then google mario di pasqual

or go to bodybuilding.com articles section and look for mario di pasquale

or google " torrent anabolic diet ebook mario di pasquale "

Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: tbombz on November 15, 2008, 07:44:04 PM
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/md.htm


read all of it   ;D

Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: Meso_z on November 16, 2008, 01:40:35 AM
about 300..
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: jon cole on November 16, 2008, 02:09:09 AM
250/300.
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: Mars on November 16, 2008, 02:09:10 AM
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: tbombz on November 16, 2008, 02:17:14 AM
okay im back but im too tired ;D
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: d0nny2600 on November 16, 2008, 03:34:18 AM
I didn't diet, I love eating food, I love eatig alot of food, I TRIED to diet for GB3, but my body wanted food badly
for GB4 I'll have an extra 30 pounds of muscle and will be less than 4% bodyfat
I promise you that

What bf do you think you were in GB3? Do you realize how delusional you sound? Stop talking shit and people will stop giving you shit.
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: Deicide on November 16, 2008, 05:08:34 AM
wavelength remembers everything ;D

Hardcore.
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: Bobby on November 16, 2008, 09:07:03 AM
250-300g

"offseason" it's around 310g if you count the trace protein from carbs...otherwise it's 270g pure protein per day.
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: ASJChaotic on November 16, 2008, 09:13:46 AM
What bf do you think you were in GB3? Do you realize how delusional you sound? Stop talking shit and people will stop giving you shit.
BF% for GB3........10%  ???
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: d0nny2600 on November 16, 2008, 09:29:11 AM
BF% for GB3........10%  ???
Maybe more. All flaming aside you should forget about competing/dieting down right now. Start eating properly, training heavy(with a full range of motion, none of this 1/4 rep garbage) You need to have a larger muscle base before you diet down. Concentrate on putting on quality mass. 100grams of protein is not enough. 700 grams of carbs is too much. I don't care if you listen to me or not but this is the truth. You have effectively wasted the last year of training to diet down to a crap level of muscle. I hate to say it but you looked better in the bathtub than you did at GB3........Flame suit back on -



























You looked shit in the bathtub too.  8)
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: wavelength on November 16, 2008, 09:36:11 AM
If you want to lose weight, choose a diet you can live with.
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: ASJChaotic on November 16, 2008, 09:38:25 AM
Maybe more. All flaming aside you should forget about competing/dieting down right now. Start eating properly, training heavy(with a full range of motion, none of this 1/4 rep garbage) You need to have a larger muscle base before you diet down. Concentrate on putting on quality mass. 100grams of protein is not enough. 700 grams of carbs is too much. I don't care if you listen to me or not but this is the truth. You have effectively wasted the last year of training to diet down to a crap level of muscle. I hate to say it but you looked better in the bathtub than you did at GB3........Flame suit back on -

You looked shit in the bathtub too.  8)
Ok, I'll try that  ;D
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: Fatpanda on November 16, 2008, 09:47:19 AM
the only thing you have to do to get bigger is add more protein to your diet, and lift heavy (around 5-8 reps) full range reps.

look at goudy - he lifts this way and is almost as tall as you and is a beast.

personally i disagree with the anabolic diet for you - if you eat 600 carbs a day and are still that thin - controlling insulin is not a problem for your body. adding fat will make you fatter in this instance.
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: ASJChaotic on November 16, 2008, 09:58:49 AM
the only thing you have to do to get bigger is add more protein to your diet, and lift heavy (around 5-8 reps) full range reps.

look at goudy - he lifts this way and is almost as tall as you and is a beast.

personally i disagree with the anabolic diet for you - if you eat 600 carbs a day and are still that thin - controlling insulin is not a problem for your body. adding fat will make you fatter in this instance.
I'll try going up in protein
but lifting heavy is not for me, when I went volume I gained an inch in my arms in 2 weeks or so, then I switched to heavy weights 155 pound barbell curls, 250 pound tricep pushdowns
and I lost 2 inches in my arms  ??? .......I can do pulldowns with the whole rack but my back aint as big as it is strong
goudy is 6 foot 7? big dude indeed
anabolic diet is out of the window, I enjoy my food  ;D
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: Pet shop boys on November 16, 2008, 10:04:12 AM
I eat 40 grams of muscle milk  in the am

then 45 grams of BSN true mass in the pm



WOOSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: ASJChaotic on November 16, 2008, 10:29:23 AM
I eat 40 grams of muscle milk  in the am

then 45 grams of BSN true mass in the pm



WOOSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh
you must be HUUUGE  :o
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: tbombz on November 16, 2008, 12:46:05 PM


personally i disagree with the anabolic diet for you - if you eat 600 carbs a day and are still that thin - controlling insulin is not a problem for your body. adding fat will make you fatter in this instance.
whoa where are you coming up with this ? 


here let me explain soemthing maybe you dont quite know


fats dont make you fat (without insulin its tough to store fat)

carbs dont make you fat ( de nova lipogensis is limited and carbs rarely go to fat )

fats + carbs make you fat ( in presence of elevcated insulin fats very very easily enter adipose)



Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: d0nny2600 on November 16, 2008, 12:48:49 PM
More importantly - How much protan do you eat per day?
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: tbombz on November 16, 2008, 12:49:05 PM

anabolic diet is out of the window, I enjoy my food  ;D
anabolic diet has you eating something like 25-30 calories per lb.  its a whole lot of food. and its al proteisn fats and vegetables. you could eat all the steak, cheese, eggs, chicken, nuts, pork rinds, bacon, etc etc tha you want to.
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: vice1 on November 16, 2008, 12:50:16 PM
whoa where are you coming up with this ? 


here let me explain soemthing maybe you dont quite know


fats dont make you fat (without insulin its tough to store fat)

carbs dont make you fat ( de nova lipogensis is limited and carbs rarely go to fat )

fats + carbs make you fat ( in presence of elevcated insulin fats very very easily enter adipose)




are you saying that without eating carbs you can eat any amount of fat and not get fat?
I would love that
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 16, 2008, 12:55:18 PM
are you saying that without eating carbs you can eat any amount of fat and not get fat?
I would love that

Isn't that what the typical dumbass applied to the atkins diet?
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: Ursus on November 16, 2008, 01:04:02 PM
150g

From chicken, milk, steak, pork or lamb.

Eggs now and again
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: MAXX on November 16, 2008, 01:05:11 PM
150g

From chicken, milk, steak, pork or lambe
wow. thats not alot for a guy your size. so you eat only 3 meals/day?
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: Ursus on November 16, 2008, 01:10:21 PM
No i eat tons. I only have one functioning kidney so i need to be careful as hel.

Normal day for me would be 6-7 meals at around 10, 12, 3, 5, 9, 11, 1am
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: swilkins1984 on November 16, 2008, 01:15:02 PM
Around 150-200g on a good day.
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: dayweed on November 16, 2008, 01:16:59 PM
but lifting heavy is not for me, when I went volume I gained an inch in my arms in 2 weeks or so, then I switched to heavy weights 155 pound barbell curls, 250 pound tricep pushdowns
and I lost 2 inches in my arms  ???


Another ridiculous claim. First this 585 pounds squat bullshit and now this..

Do you honestly think anybody will believe that you can do 155lbs barbell curls ?
You'd be pretty strong in relation to your looks if you could even do a strict rep with 100 pounds.
If you're going to lie then at least make it somewhat believable..


On topic :

About 250g a day @ 212
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: tbombz on November 16, 2008, 01:33:50 PM
are you saying that without eating carbs you can eat any amount of fat and not get fat?
I would love that
no.   but you can eat quite a bit of fat. 
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: Fatpanda on November 16, 2008, 01:37:46 PM
I'll try going up in protein
but lifting heavy is not for me, when I went volume I gained an inch in my arms in 2 weeks or so, then I switched to heavy weights 155 pound barbell curls, 250 pound tricep pushdowns
and I lost 2 inches in my arms  ??? .......I can do pulldowns with the whole rack but my back aint as big as it is strong
goudy is 6 foot 7? big dude indeed
anabolic diet is out of the window, I enjoy my food  ;D

you have to balance the weight to make it heavy enough that you keep the focus on the muscle, and not the tendons by using momentum.

i would start by just doing your normal 10 - 12 rep max and only do sets of 6. slowly increase reps each workout until you are doing sets of 8 then increase the weight and drop the reps back to 6. increase by 1 rep in each excercise every workout. this will allow you to get used to the lower reps, but still enable you to focus on the contraction. if you like do a pump set at the end of these heavy sets. i'm not making this shit up - its backs by science.

whoa where are you coming up with this ? 


here let me explain soemthing maybe you dont quite know


fats dont make you fat (without insulin its tough to store fat)

carbs dont make you fat ( de nova lipogensis is limited and carbs rarely go to fat )

fats + carbs make you fat ( in presence of elevcated insulin fats very very easily enter adipose)





here let me explain something you clearly dont know

ever heard of ASP - Acylation Stimulating Protein.

Fat does make you fat, its the easiest macro nutrient to convert to bodyfat. Eating excess calories with fat = fat gain, and thanks to ASP sometimes a repartitioning effect is seen on maintenence calories leading to fat gain.

Candy you tried atkin while fat, it worked for you because your body had insulin issues, or you were eating too much. the high fat diet helped control you insulin spikes, or lower your overall calories due to being fuller or maybe both.

AXA is already skinny, despite eating 600-700 carbs a day - he clearly has no insulin issues, so top add fat would be wreckless imo.
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: tbombz on November 16, 2008, 01:42:00 PM
lol

k

look we all know that hormones dictate success in bodybuilding.

your results are going to be dictated by test gh igf1 t3 insulin cortiosol.  for a natural body not using exogenous supps, its best to try to get these levels as good as possible

the diet i outlined brings the natural bb'er the best possible hormonal state


glucose pre during post workout. this elevates t3 insulin and lowers cortisol.

  high fat protein cholestrol the rest of the day. this elevates testsoteron gh igf1.   
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: divcom on November 16, 2008, 01:45:36 PM
I've asked once and I'll do it again.  How you some of you break 100g protein daily?  Cant do it

2 chicken breat
1 piece fish
6 eggs
1 protein drink

red meat on and off if you discount my girl

Done for the day.  Cant always get this done everyday because of schedule.
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: Fatpanda on November 16, 2008, 01:47:12 PM
lol

k

look we all know that hormones dictate success in bodybuilding.

your results are going to be dictated by test gh igf1 t3 insulin cortiosol.  for a natural body not using exogenous supps, its best to try to get these levels as good as possible

the diet i outlined brings the natural bb'er the best possible hormonal state


glucose pre during post workout. this elevates t3 insulin and lowers cortisol.

  high fat protein cholestrol the rest of the day. this elevates testsoteron gh igf1.   

there is no hormonal advantage to anything over 20% fat in the daily diet. If you were on atkins - your t3 levels will drop, insulin would drop, cortisol will rise. even using a tkd approach with pre/post carbs - it t3 would still be lower overall.
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: Fatpanda on November 16, 2008, 01:48:55 PM
I've asked once and I'll do it again.  How you some of you break 100g protein daily?  Cant do it

2 chicken breat
1 piece fish
6 eggs
1 protein drink

red meat on and off if you discount my girl

Done for the day.  Cant always get this done everyday because of schedule.

?

how many meals do you eat ?

2 chicken breats are around 50g

milk has 35g per 500ml

i eat 4 times a day

oats + protein powder = 90g

2-4 chicken breasts + rice or pasta = 45-90g

1 or 2 steaks + pasta or rice = 45-90g

protein shake = 90g
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: thewickedtruth on November 16, 2008, 01:49:50 PM
about 350-400grams a day.
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: Ursus on November 16, 2008, 01:51:27 PM
A weightgainer in morning is say 40g when mixed with milk

Then a chicken sandwich or fajita post workout is another 40g

Thats 80 already then whatever meat with dinner...
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: Fatpanda on November 16, 2008, 01:52:30 PM
No i eat tons. I only have one functioning kidney so i need to be careful as hel.

Normal day for me would be 6-7 meals at around 10, 12, 3, 5, 9, 11, 1am

did you hire chad nichols ?
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: dodger on November 16, 2008, 02:37:11 PM
milk
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: Ursus on November 16, 2008, 02:39:50 PM
did you hire chad nichols ?

Haha he said it was just a 'coincidence'
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: dayweed on November 16, 2008, 02:42:03 PM

milk has 35g per 500ml


Well that would be great .. think you meant 35g per 1000ml ;)
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: MAXX on November 16, 2008, 02:44:29 PM
A weightgainer in morning is say 40g when mixed with milk

Then a chicken sandwich or fajita post workout is another 40g

Thats 80 already then whatever meat with dinner...
so what you mean is the rest of your meals are pure carb/fats?
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: mazrim on November 16, 2008, 02:54:18 PM
the diet i outlined brings the natural bb'er the best possible hormonal state


glucose pre during post workout. this elevates t3 insulin and lowers cortisol.

  high fat protein cholestrol the rest of the day. this elevates testsoteron gh igf1.   
Than a lot of the top supposedly legit naturals are doing it all wrong.
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: Ursus on November 16, 2008, 02:55:51 PM
so what you mean is the rest of your meals are pure carb/fats?

Noi was giving an example of how easy it is to get close to 100g

Before i trian i just eat a few bananas and maybe a tiny choc bar. Rest has protein in there somewhere
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: tbombz on November 16, 2008, 10:05:56 PM
there is no hormonal advantage to anything over 20% fat in the daily diet.
anecdtoal evidence proves contrary


 
If you were on atkins - your t3 levels will drop, insulin would drop, cortisol will rise. even using a tkd approach with pre/post carbs - it t3 would still be lower overall.
well its NOT atkins diet. and in the diet i outlined t3 will be as high as possible , cortisol will never be elevated, and insulin will be on the ground for most of the day and sky high during workouts.   
Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: Fatpanda on November 17, 2008, 12:15:09 AM
anecdtoal evidence proves contrary


  well its NOT atkins diet. and in the diet i outlined t3 will be as high as possible , cortisol will never be elevated, and insulin will be on the ground for most of the day and sky high during workouts.   

show me the studies that back up your claims.

fat increases test up to 20% of diet - there is no further advantage going higher.

any diet that lowers carb intake, will lower insulin and t3 levels, while increasing cortisol - this is scientific fact. even with carb ups with still occurs.

i havn't even touched on the drop in performance levels that occur with the low carb diet.

i was a big believer in tkd, however i could not deny i was losing strength. as soon as i added the carbs - BOOM, i was back to 10 lb dumbell curls in no time  ;D

Title: Re: How much protein do you eat per day?
Post by: Bobby on November 17, 2008, 09:17:04 AM
show me the studies that back up your claims.

fat increases test up to 20% of diet - there is no further advantage going higher.

any diet that lowers carb intake, will lower insulin and t3 levels, while increasing cortisol - this is scientific fact. even with carb ups with still occurs.

i havn't even touched on the drop in performance levels that occur with the low carb diet.

i was a big believer in tkd, however i could not deny i was losing strength. as soon as i added the carbs - BOOM, i was back to 10 lb dumbell curls in no time  ;D



that is so true. carbs = the macronutrient you should have the most of :D