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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Sherief Shalaby on December 06, 2008, 09:57:19 AM
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Nasser from the front was phenomenal (NOTHING NEW WE ALL KNOW THIS) and in some poses from the front there is no doubt he beat me (SURE NO DOUBT AT ALL). But from the side he is very narrow (PULL SHIT HE WAS THICKER THAN YOU FROM THE SIDE WITH HIS BIGGER AND BETTER CHEST, SHOULDERS, ARMS, &, LEGS) and from the back there is no comparison really (YES BUT THERE WAS NO COMPARISON TOO AND TO A BIGGER EXTENT BETWEEN HIM AND YOU FROM THE FRONT). You have to look at it logically (SAY THIS TO YOURSELF). Let's say he beat me in the front relaxed pose and the front double bicep (ALSO THE FRONT LAT SPREAD, SIDE CHEST, SIDE TRICEPS, &, THIGHS AND ABS)
I will give him this. Did he beat me in the side triceps? No. (OF COURSE HE BEAT YOU,.. YOUR TRICEPS LOOKED BETTER BUT HIS CHEST, SHOULDER, BICEP, &, QUAD LOOKED BETTER IN THIS POSE SO HIS WHOLE THING LOOKED BETTER THAN YOURS) In either of the back poses? No. (YES YOU ARE RIGHT HERE OF COURSE) Abs and thighs was close. (NOT CLOSE DORIAN HE WAS BETTER WITH HIS BETTER UPPER AND LOWER BODY, IT'S ENOUGH TO COMPARE YOUR QUADS WITH HIS). So no, I don't think he deserved to win although he did look very good that year (MAY BE IN YOUR OWN BOOK AND IN YOUR ASS LICKERS' BOOKS). But he looked good from certain angles. Some physiques you can't judge from a photograph; you have to be there (BAD EXCUSE).
Everyone who sees my physique in person always comments on how much better I look in person than in pictures (HE CAN SAY THE SAME ABOUT HIMSELF). That's because my physique is thick and developed from all angles. From the front, from the back, from the side, standing on my head (AND ON YOUR ASS TOO??): it doesn't matter. Everywhere is fully developed from every angle. And this might not show in one-dimensional photos. When you turn somebody to the side and they are twice as thick as everyone else, then that shows up (IF HE OWNED YOU IN ONE-DIMENSIONAL PHOTOS SO HE WOULD LOGICALLY OWN YOU IN THE TWO AND THREE AND EVEN TEN DIMENSIONAL ONES).
I wasn't aware of this debate, as I don't spend a lot of time looking into these kinds of things. These sites are usually for guys who live at home with their mum and don't have anything better to do (THX MR. POLITE). But (concerning a comparison with Nasser) I was not the best from all angles and not from the front - the front double biceps and relaxed pose.
He probably beat me in those poses, but the rest? No (PROBABLY!!!.. ARE YOU KIDDING?!!). But that might be the only thing that people look at when they view the comparisons: the front double biceps or just standing there relaxed (NO HEREUNDER ARE THE 7 MAIN POSES AND THE FRONT RELAXED, ALL ANGLES COMPARISONS BETWEEN YOU AND HIM).
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THE REST..
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settle down gloria
don't get your panties in a bunch
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15601-3/1997-mr-olympia-189.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=b5ce2313e926de14e67b2777c6292237)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15601-3/1997-mr-olympia-189.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=b5ce2313e926de14e67b2777c6292237)
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settle down gloria
don't get your panties in a bunch
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15601-3/1997-mr-olympia-189.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=b5ce2313e926de14e67b2777c6292237)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/15601-3/1997-mr-olympia-189.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=b5ce2313e926de14e67b2777c6292237)
And why r you posting the same pic. twice??
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Yates reminds me of (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff50/dolop_ghani/shit.jpg)
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And why r you posting the same pic. twice??
for emphasis.
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LOL Dorian is as fucking delusional as the dorian nuthuggers on this board! ::)
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Nasser had a huge fish belly and had more oil in him than in a autozone.
Plus-look how great nasser looks now!!
3000k must be up! Changing the oil!
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/drobson322_g.jpg
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Will these stupid ass threads ever end?
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whatever happened between dorian and nasser? who won?.......... oh thats right dorian, so who cares
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The COMMENTARY is very helpful. Thank you.
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Will these stupid ass threads ever end?
Of course not..
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LOL Dorian is as fucking delusional as the dorian nuthuggers on this board! ::)
Dorian is an IFBB judge he knows a hell of a lot more about how contests are judged than you do ;)
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The COMMENTARY is very helpful. Thank you.
Thx my friend, next time i will make them in bold to help more ;)
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Dorian is an IFBB judge he knows a hell of a lot more about how contests are judged than you do ;)
Sure you r right but not when he judges his own body ;)
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Sure you r right but not when he judges his own body ;)
he judged his and Nasser and ironically 13 other judges agree with him what does that tell you? and spare me the politics nonsense
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he judged his and Nasser and ironically 13 other judges agree with him what does that tell you? and spare me the politics nonsense
I want 2 ask u a simple question and plz answer frankly and in one word.. Do u really belive Dorian deserved 2 b mr. O. in 97, ys or no??..
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I want 2 ask u a simple question and plz answer frankly and in one word.. Do u really belive Dorian deserved 2 b mr. O. in 97, ys or no??..
according to how contests are judged YES personal feelings NO
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I want 2 ask u a simple question and plz answer frankly and in one word.. Do u really belive Dorian deserved 2 b mr. O. in 97, ys or no??..
Trying to re-write history is a fool's errand, my friend. Give it up. :)
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according to how contests are judged YES personal feelings NO
So ur answer is NO coz i asked u abt urself and not frm the judges point of view, we all know that contests are judged according to the desire of the IFBB even if it's against fairness.. dorian beat nasser in 97, ronnie beat kevin in 2000, jay beat vic. in 2007, shall i mention more shitty decisions??..
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Trying to re-write history is a fool's errand, my friend. Give it up. :)
no man, it's just analyzing history and not re-writing it.. it's like saying Hitler was a bad boy but still u can't bring a time machine to go back to kill him b4 he started the big shit..
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So ur answer is NO coz i asked u abt urself and not frm the judges point of view, we all know that contests are judged according to the desire of the IFBB even if it's against fairness.. dorian beat nasser in 97, ronnie beat kevin in 2000, jay beat vic. in 2007, shall i mention more shitty decisions??..
Dorian shouldn't have won but Nasser didn't beat him ;)
shitty decisions why because you didn't agree with them? that's not how it works
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no man, it's just analyzing history and not re-writing it.. it's like saying Hitler was a bad boy but still u can't bring a time machine to go back to kill him b4 he started the big shit..
Hmm. Odd analogy. Maybe it's more apt to say that you are trying to change people's minds about the outcome of a beauty pageant that happened over 10 years ago. It's a lose-lose situation. ;D
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Dorian shouldn't have won but Nasser didn't beat him ;)
shitty decisions why because you didn't agree with them? that's not how it works
yes shitty decisions 4 me and 4 anyone wth some brain.. iwhen a very bad jay had beat a very good vic. in one year then the next year a better jay couldn't beat dex (who is nt as good as vic.) you knw it's shit.. but yes dex deserved to win, i am just wondering abt the 2 years decisions..
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nasser is owning dorian in all those shots w/ exception of rear lat spread. anyone who disagrees doesnt know shit about bodybuilding
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Hmm. Odd analogy. Maybe it's more apt to say that you are trying to change people's minds about the outcome of a beauty pageant that happened over 10 years ago. It's a lose-lose situation. ;D
so wht abt those who still talk abt mr. o. 8o and how arnold shouldn't hav won :D
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yes shitty decisions 4 me and 4 anyone wth some brain.. iwhen a very bad jay had beat a very good vic. in one year then the next year a better jay couldn't beat dex (who is nt as good as vic.) you knw it's shit.. but yes dex deserved to win, i am just wondering abt the 2 years decisions..
Well YOU don't judge contests 13 individuals all came to the same conclusion , Dorian was better than Nasser
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Dorian shouldn't have won but Nasser didn't beat him
ND this is another one of those repeated queations that you run like a coward from and never answer.
so I am going to call you on it again and watch you dodge it as always ::):
you say dorian should not have won but nasser didn't beat him.
so, in your opinion (and this is a simple question) who would YOU have picked to win the 1997 Mr. Olympia?
hint: answer with the name of a bodybuilder.
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13 individuals all came to the same conclusion
...as instructed by Joe Weider...
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nasser is owning dorian in all those shots w/ exception of rear lat spread. anyone who disagrees doesnt know shit about bodybuilding
no man let's give him the rear d. biceps too :)
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See there is a huge difference between Dorian and Nasser. Nasser is a fuckin cheat! Get it through your thick stupid skulls Nasser is an admitted cheater. Fuck the guy had more oil in him than a pimply faced 13 year old. Nasser sucks, always has, always will.
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Well YOU don't judge contests 13 individuals all came to the same conclusion , Dorian was better than Nasser
ok let's repeat... Z JUDGES OF THE OLYMPIA JUDGE ACCORDING 2 THE LINE DRAWN BY THE HEAD OF THE IFBB AND NOT ACCORDING 2 WHAT THEY REALLY SEE..
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NO Big tymer, maybe you should get some grammer lessons and learn a thing or 2 about bodybuilding cause Nasser sucks. Dorian said in his comments that he looks better in person, yet you guys keep trying to disprove this by showing 2 dimensional pictures.
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i once made a mistake to marry a russian women, i throwed her out of the car as well.
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ok let's repeat... Z JUDGES OF THE OLYMPIA JUDGE ACCORDING 2 THE LINE DRAWN BY THE HEAD OF THE IFBB AND NOT ACCORDING 2 WHAT THEY REALLY SEE..
See I like to entertain everyone's opinion the the topic I enjoy discussion bodybuilding but when your default excuse is politics you just can't be taken seriously
and you weren't in attendance in 1997 and you're commenting on the judges not judging by what they see lol monster irony
Dorian at his worse was still better than Nasser that's a fact
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well said
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NO Big tymer, maybe you should get some grammer lessons and learn a thing or 2 about bodybuilding cause Nasser sucks. Dorian said in his comments that he looks better in person, yet you guys keep trying to disprove this by showing 2 dimensional pictures.
u r a clear dorian's ass licker so ur opinion has no value..
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See I like to entertain everyone's opinion the the topic I enjoy discussion bodybuilding but when your default excuse is politics you just can't be taken seriously
and you weren't in attendance in 1997 and you're commenting on the judges not judging by what they see lol monster irony
Dorian at his worse was still better than Nasser that's a fact
hw come 2 say tht in ur opinion nasser had 2 beat drn in 97 then after 5 min. u say tht drn at his worse ws still better than nsr???.. u r contradicting urself..
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hw come 2 say tht in ur opinion nasser had 2 beat drn in 97 then after 5 min. u say tht drn at his worse ws still better than nsr???.. u r contradicting urself..
Nasser didn't beat Dorian in 1997 although I personally don't think Dorian should have won , that's just purely from a personal standpoint
Nasser should have pushed a closer contest but he wasn't beating Dorian according to the IFBB judging criteria
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Nasser didn't beat Dorian in 1997 although I personally don't think Dorian should have won , that's just purely from a personal standpoint
Nasser should have pushed a closer contest but he wasn't beating Dorian according to the IFBB judging criteria
so whn u said (drn at his worse ws still bttr thn nasr) were u expressing ur own opinion or the IFBB's.. plz let me knw coz i cant understand u anymore :)
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so whn u said (drn at his worse ws still bttr thn nasr) were u expressing ur own opinion or the IFBB's.. plz let me knw coz i cant understand u anymore :)
I'm stating a fact , Dorian wasn't at his best and Nasser was close to his and he still lost that's a fact
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Yates will always be the better bodybuilder-Mr. Olympia six times. ahh yes cue the picture of nasser in top form and Yates towards the end of his career. thats all you can do huh lol "he who lives in the past has no future" so stop saying politics is why he won Yates won cause hes better, nasser= full of oil and excuses as to why he couldnt beat Yates. nasser was good ok just not good enough to beat Yates.
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I'm stating a fact , Dorian wasn't at his best and Nasser was close to his and he still lost that's a fact
so the question nw is, do YOU agree with this fact????.. or this fact as well as many other sitty facts have made u sure tht the judges of the olympia r not always fair??????
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Yates will always be the better bodybuilder-Mr. Olympia six times. ahh yes cue the picture of nasser in top form and Yates towards the end of his career. thats all you can do huh lol "he who lives in the past has no future" so stop saying politics is why he won Yates won cause hes better, nasser= full of oil and excuses as to why he couldnt beat Yates. nasser was good ok just not good enough to beat Yates.
i agree tht dorian ws z best mr. olympia and in my opinion at his best he is the best bb ever but nw i am talking abt one certain show..
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so the question nw is, do YOU agree with this fact????.. or this fact as well as many other sitty facts have made u sure tht the judges of the olympia r not always fair??????
I do and I don't . in some poses Nasser is the clear cut winner but from the side and the back he's left for dead , I think it should have been closer but I understand why Dorian won although I don;t think he should have.
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I do and I don't . in some poses Nasser is the clear cut winner but from the side and the back he's left for dead , I think it should have been closer but I understand why Dorian won although I don;t think he should have.
hw come dorian ws better frm the side??
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hw come dorian ws better frm the side??
Dorian was 10lbs heavier in 97 than this picture, Nasshole couldnt compete side by side
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/45068-4/1995-mr-olympia-bw-08.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=a817808b97b6562417d8d723bd9d975c)
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Dorian was 10lbs heavier in 97 than this picture, Nasshole couldnt compete side by side
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/45068-4/1995-mr-olympia-bw-08.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=a817808b97b6562417d8d723bd9d975c)
he can't even do the side chest shot properly
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If you look at the video you will see that Dorian is the winner without a doubt … I wouldn’t have minded if Kevin placed over Nasser that year either … anyway … what is done is done … but If the judging criteria was clearer and more transparent to everyone we might not have all this debate …
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Dorian was 10lbs heavier in 97 than this picture, Nasshole couldnt compete side by side
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/45068-4/1995-mr-olympia-bw-08.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=a817808b97b6562417d8d723bd9d975c)
wht is this???.. we r talking abt mr. o. 97 and u r posting a pic. from 95???.. r u asshole??..
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he can't even do the side chest shot properly
i agree tht nasser ws nt a good poser.. sure dorian deserved 2 win in 95 but still nasser owned him in many shots.. just look at the size of nasser's shoulders and hw they were much bigger than dorian's.. kvn's shoulders too wre bigger thn dorian's..
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wht is this???.. we r talking abt mr. o. 97 and u r posting a pic. from 95???.. r u asshole??..
the difference wasnt that much, Nasser conditioning was even better here than in 97 and Dorian makes him look smooth. Considering Dorian was 270lbs too.
In 97 Dorian was in better condition and could match him in size, Dorian wins
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i agree tht nasser ws nt a good poser.. sure dorian deserved 2 win in 95 but still nasser owned him in many shots.. just look at the size of nasser's shoulders and hw they were much bigger than dorian's.. kvn's shoulders too wre bigger thn dorian's..
I agree with Dorian that got owned in the front double biceps , and ab-thigh and I think Yates had the better front spread , standing relaxed from the front Nasser wins , in the 1/4 turns and rear shots Dorian wins , combine that with dorian being just as big and harder I can see why he won , should be have won with perfect scores? NO but I think he was the clear winner
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the difference wasnt that much, Nasser conditioning was even better here than in 97 and Dorian makes him look smooth. Considering Dorian was 270lbs too.
In 97 Dorian was in better condition and could match him in size, Dorian wins
ok my friend if u believe urself.. z only thing dorian ws better thn nasr in this pose ws his ability 2 hit it 100% right but this pose is meant 2 show chest, arms, and shoulders beside the side view of the thighs and calves,.. among all these mentioned parts dorian ws better only in calves while nasser ws better in everything else..
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Dorian > Nasser
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I agree with Dorian that got owned in the front double biceps , and ab-thigh and I think Yates had the better front spread , standing relaxed from the front Nasser wins , in the 1/4 turns and rear shots Dorian wins , combine that with dorian being just as big and harder I can see why he won , should be have won with perfect scores? NO but I think he was the clear winner
this is u or the ifbb ths time?? :).. man u have a diff. opinion every second.. hw come dorian beat nasser in the left side relaxed pose!!.. with his 16' totally torn arm!!.. his left arm ws not only small but also deformed.. it ws a bif shame just 2 give the title 2 him wth this arm even if he came in a perfect condition, but he didnt come in his normal good condition..
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so wht abt those who still talk abt mr. o. 8o and how arnold shouldn't hav won :D
LOL. Different Olympia. Same problem. It's past. Let it go.
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LOL. Different Olympia. Same problem. It's past. Let it go.
u seem 2 b a wise man,.. why dont u tell us ur "real" opinion instead of ur mockery :)
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NassOIL reminds me of (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff50/dolop_ghani/shit.jpg)
Fixed for you ! No need for thanks.
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Fixed for you ! No need for thanks.
oh man why r u posting ur own pic nw???..
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All Olympias are won from the back...However that is because it is usually so close from the front...Nassar blows Dorian away from the front and when it comes to the back, it shouldn't have even mattered...Nassar should have won this show with all 1st place scores...
The world looks you straight in the eye and that should make the most difference...Not when you walk away from them...
Without a doubt Dorians win was racial...The Jewish Heirarchy loves Nazi German type(yeah I know Dorian is English but it is close enough)
Remember that the trophy they are going after is not the Mr.OLympia, but Joe Weiders Mr. Olympia...Huge huge difference...Its a Jewish Title and any really white man or black man should be greatful to win(in there eyes)...
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All Olympias are won from the back...However that is because it is usually so close from the front...Nassar blows Dorian away from the front and when it comes to the back, it shouldn't have even mattered...Nassar should have won this show with all 1st place scores...
The world looks you straight in the eye and that should make the most difference...Not when you walk away from them...
Without a doubt Dorians win was racial...The Jewish Heirarchy loves Nazi German type(yeah I know Dorian is English but it is close enough)
Remember that the trophy they are going after is not the Mr.OLympia, but Joe Weiders Mr. Olympia...Huge huge difference...Its a Jewish Title and any really white man or black man should be greatful to win(in there eyes)...
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exactly why do thy consider the back more imp. the front.. also on tht days the gap bet. nasrs front a drns ws bigger thn the gap bet. dorns back and nsrs..
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One question. If Nassar was so good, why wasn't he able to come back the next year and win the title after Dorian retired? That's what Dorian did after placing a close second to Haney.
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I don't know why they do, but since the 83 Olympia, that has been the protocol...
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oh man why r u posting ur own pic nw???..
I snatched that picture of your sister out of your wallet ,when you pulled your pants down to Phuck that goat.
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One question. If Nassar was so good, why wasn't he able to come back the next year and win the title after Dorian retired? That's what Dorian did after placing a close second to Haney.
he didnt coz he was nt at his best in front of ronnie who came in a wonderful condition but still this has nothing 2 do with 1997..
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he didnt coz he was nt at his best in front of ronnie who came in a wonderful condition but still this has nothing 2 do with 1997..
Nassoil sucks buddy... Deal with it... Stop trying to force feed people this piece of SH!T,please...
Thank you,your friend Wormeo..
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Yates shouldn't even be compared to that keg of oil.
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I snatched that picture of your sister out of your wallet ,when you pulled your pants down to Phuck that goat.
i am sorry i cant go 2 ur low level and answer u the same way.. i can't mention ur wife, mother, or, sister on this forum coz i dont knw them and they may b good ppl but with a bad fate 2 get a piece of shit like u..
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i am sorry i cant go 2 ur low level and answer u the same way.. i can't mention ur wife, mother, or, sister on this forum coz i dont knw them and they may b good ppl but with a bad fate 2 get a piece of shit like u..
Okay...Fair enough... My apologies..You didn't deserve that type of disrespect..
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Okay...Fair enough... My apologies..You didn't deserve that type of disrespect..
ok peace mr. worm..
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dorian is owning nasser all those shots w/ exception of the front double biceps. anyone who disagrees doesnt know shit about bodybuilding
fixed for truth.
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lol @ cherry chalab
showing your true colours
you started so subtely my little pakistani terrorist.....the nasser vs dorian threads....
but i called you out you towel head
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wht is this???.. we r talking abt mr. o. 97 and u r posting a pic. from 95???.. r u asshole??..
shut it you arab pancake....
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Hi donkey, oh I am sorry I shouldn't have called u so.. Nw I i have annoyed all donkey-kind.. try 2 put some reasons in what u say and use ur mind if u have any b4 u talk instead of just throwing words from ur big fat raciest ass..
lol @ cherry chalab
showing your true colours
you started so subtely my little pakistani terrorist.....the nasser vs dorian threads....
but i called you out you towel head
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ugly raciest.. go and put ur head in ur fat ass till u die.. whn u die the world stupidity will decrease by half..
shut it you arab pancake....
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Nasser knew what he needed to do to win the title. His back was a glaring weakness that the champ, all recent Olympia champs, have not had. He did not make needed improvements and never did win the title as a result, end of story.
If Nasser had truly believed his physique to be Olympia champion caliber, why the need to, at any point, resort to shooting his delts and arms? Such a tactic is indicative of insecurity. Even after Yates tore his left bicep, he didn't resort to such a thing. Such a tactic might have seemed more logical in the event Greg Valentino were Mr. Olympia for a time, but in the real world, I fail to see the logic in Nasser having gone such a route. And I'm tired of Nasser's stupid denials about Synthol. He's an allegedly educated man, so he should know better than to protest the criticisms in this area. It matters not what the actual substance used was, he put "something" in there, that is obvious. And even if we were all that naive to believe that the appearance that his delts ultimately took on was not resultant from a foreign substance, they still stood out like a sore thumb, which would necessitate him being marked down no matter what.
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One question. If Nassar was so good, why wasn't he able to come back the next year and win the title after Dorian retired? That's what Dorian did after placing a close second to Haney.
two words:
Ronnie Coleman:
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*Opens thread. Sees same old wine in new bottles. Closes thread*
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settle down gloria
don't get your panties in a bunch
You settle down, you stupidass french queer.
One part does not win an entire contest.
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*Opens thread. Sees same old wine in new bottles. Closes thread*
Um... LOL
Wine gets finer with age so you are implying that continued arguments over these issues get better each time? ;D
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Um... LOL
Wine gets finer with age so you are implying that continued arguments over these issues get better each time? ;D
LOL. No, CJ, I'd tell the wine server that the bottle is 'corked' and look for a new selection. :D
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Very insightful post by the sherief.
This has been explored many time and the facts always stay true:
people who know bodybuilding are shocked that the vile, repugnant and disgusting human , Yates, stole the Olympia from a man who dominated him in every single facet bar lower back.
Even Nasser match the repulsive thug on back thickness.
The only people who defend Yates are those who are themself racist like their ex-convict, former racist skinhead.
Yates is in financial trouble and this is why his trash mouth finally starts to speak.
We all know that he robbed the Olympia but what do one expect from a convicted burglar?
The only people who defend him are the sad, unwashed and lonely pasty racist who spout nothing but racist words against the Arab.
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:'(
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Thx sharma :)
even this guy ND who is the biggest dorian fan here confessed tht nasser ws better on tht day ;)..
Very insightful post by the sherief.
This has been explored many time and the facts always stay true:
people who know bodybuilding are shocked that the vile, repugnant and disgusting human , Yates, stole the Olympia from a man who dominated him in every single facet bar lower back.
Even Nasser match the repulsive thug on back thickness.
The only people who defend Yates are those who are themself racist like their ex-convict, former racist skinhead.
Yates is in financial trouble and this is why his trash mouth finally starts to speak.
We all know that he robbed the Olympia but what do one expect from a convicted burglar?
The only people who defend him are the sad, unwashed and lonely pasty racist who spout nothing but racist words against the Arab.
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i agree wth u but u r talking abt smthng happened after 1997 mr. O. which is the subject here.. i am nt saying that nasser showed any good shape after his last victory at ac 99.. i am talking here abt a certain occasion.. dorian himself was comparing bth of them at mr. o. 97 and not in general..
Nasser knew what he needed to do to win the title. His back was a glaring weakness that the champ, all recent Olympia champs, have not had. He did not make needed improvements and never did win the title as a result, end of story.
If Nasser had truly believed his physique to be Olympia champion caliber, why the need to, at any point, resort to shooting his delts and arms? Such a tactic is indicative of insecurity. Even after Yates tore his left bicep, he didn't resort to such a thing. Such a tactic might have seemed more logical in the event Greg Valentino were Mr. Olympia for a time, but in the real world, I fail to see the logic in Nasser having gone such a route. And I'm tired of Nasser's stupid denials about Synthol. He's an allegedly educated man, so he should know better than to protest the criticisms in this area. It matters not what the actual substance used was, he put "something" in there, that is obvious. And even if we were all that naive to believe that the appearance that his delts ultimately took on was not resultant from a foreign substance, they still stood out like a sore thumb, which would necessitate him being marked down no matter what.
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Thx sharma :)
even this guy ND who is the biggest dorian fan here confessed tht nasser ws better on tht day ;)..
ND can say for certain , but I believe his comments indicated a personal preference for Nasser's physique on that day, but he still felt Dorian won according to the judging guidelines. ND can correct me if I have misquoted him, however.
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ND can say for certain , but I believe his comments indicated a personal preference for Nasser's physique on that day, but he still felt Dorian won according to the judging guidelines. ND can correct me if I have misquoted him, however.
dead on the money as usual !
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what a contradiction!!!.. so in other words we can say ND sees tht the judging guidline of the olympia is shit..
ND can say for certain , but I believe his comments indicated a personal preference for Nasser's physique on that day, but he still felt Dorian won according to the judging guidelines. ND can correct me if I have misquoted him, however.
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what a contradiction!!!.. so in other words we can say ND sees tht the judging guidline of the olympia is shit..
No it's only accurate when Nasser wins when he doesn't it's politics , racism , etc
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No it's only accurate when Nasser wins when he doesn't it's politics , racism , etc
of course not and i never thought nasser didn't win the O. in 97 coz he is half arab or muslim or coz of any other "certain" policy.. no.. It was just unfair the same way as when Jay beat Victor in 2007.. we just see the injustice happening but don't knw why.. i am not a blind follower of nasser and yes he looked very bad after 1999.. but during his good years he was the best from the front with no comparison..
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i believe there is credence to the story that the majority decision of the judges had these final placings
1. nasser
2. shawn ray
3. yates
4. dillet
5. lee priest
6. levrone
before the "official"scorecard was tabulated, steve weinberger+jim manion made the necessary amendments so their favorite yates could win and also lee priest was relegated to 6th after they found levrone absolutely distraught backstage, crying about his placing
people have to remember that yates was v good friends with weinberger and bev francis who were judges in 1996 and 1997 and maybe 1995. weinberger may not have judged in 97 but he did in 96 and he had alot of influence over other judges in 97.
the decision was definitely based on the favoritism of yates.
the man with the best physique on the day of the 97 O was Nasser
history will show yates won on the "official" scorecards
but history will also show that Nasser El Sonbaty was the true winner on that day in the eyes of the bodybuilding world and the fans
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people have to remember that yates was v good friends with weinberger and bev francis who were judges in 1996 and 1997 and maybe 1995. weinberger may not have judged in 97 but he did in 96 and he had alot of influence over other judges in 97.
and this is something that ND and Co. always forget... ::)
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of course not and i never thought nasser didn't win the O. in 97 coz he is half arab or muslim or coz of any other "certain" policy.. no.. It was just unfair the same way as when Jay beat Victor in 2007.. we just see the injustice happening but don't knw why.. i am not a blind follower of nasser and yes he looked very bad after 1999.. but during his good years he was the best from the front with no comparison..
Indeed, he did look very good from the front, the side and back, not so much. Ironic actually, that in your praise for Nasser, you only acknowledged him from the front also.
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and this is something that ND and Co. always forget... ::)
You also forget Weinbergger also judged Yates in his first show and he finished second ;) you knew this because I've told you many times , selective memory anyone?
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You also forget Weinbergger also judged Yates in his first show and he finished second ;) you knew this because I've told you many times , selective memory anyone?
You'll have to forgive Huckster, he's been preoccupied with his "loose skin" fetish. lol
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finally a muslim objective enough to not be turned on by nassoil's charms..
If you look at the video you will see that Dorian is the winner without a doubt … I wouldn’t have minded if Kevin placed over Nasser that year either … anyway … what is done is done … but If the judging criteria was clearer and more transparent to everyone we might not have all this debate …
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yes sure there was something fishy on tht day.. how come to put kevin after paul and lee in front of the audience then amend the result and put him ahead of them after the show!!!.. This could never happen at a small gym contest not the Olympia!!.. sure there was somethng wrong with the judges on that day..
i believe there is credence to the story that the majority decision of the judges had these final placings
1. nasser
2. shawn ray
3. yates
4. dillet
5. lee priest
6. levrone
before the "official"scorecard was tabulated, steve weinberger+jim manion made the necessary amendments so their favorite yates could win and also lee priest was relegated to 6th after they found levrone absolutely distraught backstage, crying about his placing
people have to remember that yates was v good friends with weinberger and bev francis who were judges in 1996 and 1997 and maybe 1995. weinberger may not have judged in 97 but he did in 96 and he had alot of influence over other judges in 97.
the decision was definitely based on the favoritism of yates.
the man with the best physique on the day of the 97 O was Nasser
history will show yates won on the "official" scorecards
but history will also show that Nasser El Sonbaty was the true winner on that day in the eyes of the bodybuilding world and the fans
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ys coz at the time of his first contest they were still not freinds :)
You also forget Weinbergger also judged Yates in his first show and he finished second ;) you knew this because I've told you many times , selective memory anyone?
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You all are full of shite.
Orville Burke and Weinberger were just as close as Dorian and Steve were.
Not once did a Mr. Olympia crowd disapprove of Dorian's win. NEVER. And believe me, they would have ala 2002 if the outcome was so "rigged" as you all seem to think ::)
Robson's Yates interview reeked of Nasser ball licking....truly pathetic :-\
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Hi donkey, oh I am sorry I shouldn't have called u so.. Nw I i have annoyed all donkey-kind.. try 2 put some reasons in what u say and use ur mind if u have any b4 u talk instead of just throwing words from ur big fat raciest ass..
I'm sure you have
I bet you and your Arabian horse have quite a few special memories together.....
can somebody say "Mr Hands"?
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according to flex mag. dorian's 1st place at mr. o. 96 was booed by some of the audience.. at his best dorian ws the best but he was nt at his best in all his contests..
You all are full of shite.
Orville Burke and Weinberger were just as close as Dorian and Steve were.
Not once did a Mr. Olympia crowd disapprove of Dorian's win. NEVER. And believe me, they would have ala 2002 if the outcome was so "rigged" as you all seem to think ::)
Robson's Yates interview reeked of Nasser ball licking....truly pathetic :-\
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according to flex mag. dorian's 1st place at mr. o. 96 was booed by some of the audience..
Probably pumpster and Hulkster...
Same thing could be said about Ronnie's wins 1998/1999/2003 by the way.
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Same thing could be said about Ronnie's wins 1998/1999/2003 by the way.
::)
what total bullshit.
98 the fans were chanting ronnie's name for fuck sake
99/2003 - most dominant victories - the fans were booing FLEX in 99 not ronnie - they booed flex off the stage when he turned his back to the audience LOL
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wht was wrong wth his side????.. dont repeat wht dorian said blindly.. sure nasser's side was better than dorian's coz his shoulders, arms, chest, and, quads were bigger and thicker's thn dorian's..
Indeed, he did look very good from the front, the side and back, not so much. Ironic actually, that in your praise for Nasser, you only acknowledged him from the front also.
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wht was wrong wth his side????.. dont repeat wht dorian said blindly.. sure nasser's side was better than dorian's coz his shoulders, arms, chest, and, quads were bigger and thicker's thn dorian's..
Believe it or not, I used to be of the opinion that Nasser was the clear winner. Then, I watched the video, which completely changed my opinion. Dorian had such thickness and density from all angles, which is something missing on Nasser. I expected Nasser's physique to really pop, but it never really did. The imbalance between his front and back is even more apparent on video than in photos. Nasser on that day, may have had a more pleasing look than that of Yates, but he was much too incomplete in terms of overall development to win the title.
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there was never an imbalance between nasser's front and back in terms of size and thickness, the imbalance ws only in details.. in side poses the details of the back r not seen so there is no point to say so..
i too watched the videos of mr. 95 and 97 and for me it's the same as in pics but videos expose dorian's supriority over nasser in posing more than pics..
so if you are talking about imbalance, what about the crystal clear imbalance between dorian's right arm and his left??.. his left arm looked not only very small but also deformed.. in certain shots it looked smaller than his left forearm!!.. dorian was the clear winner in 1995 from the video and from pics. and felt behind nasser in 1997 in the video and also pics.. pics r no more than a shot from the video..
i respect the fact that dorian decided to compete after this fatal left tri injury but i dont respect the blind judges who gave him the title.. they were really blind not only 2 give him the title but also for not noticing his injury during the show.. they knew after when dorian narrated the story in magazines.. really shameful!!..
Believe it or not, I used to be of the opinion that Nasser was the clear winner. Then, I watched the video, which completely changed my opinion. Dorian had such thickness and density from all angles, which is something missing on Nasser. I expected Nasser's physique to really pop, but it never really did. The imbalance between his front and back is even more apparent on video than in photos. Nasser on that day, may have had a more pleasing look than that of Yates, but he was much too incomplete in terms of overall development to win the title.
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Nasser = loser
Cherry chalab = Pakistani nasser guy
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Sherief Shalaby s love of the cock is undenying :-\
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true
the cock-loving runs deep in the Muslim highlands of northern pakistan.....
according to wikipedia, there are more homosexual brothels in paksitan than anywhere in the world
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Lets look at it this way
Dorian said that in photos he doesn't look as impressive as in video's or in person.
So what you you do? Post more photo's. Well done. ;D ;D ;D
It's just like the 2001 Mr.O, in photo's Jay looks great, like he had a chance to beat Ronnie. In the video, Ronnie is so far ahead you have to wonder what the judges were thinking putting Jay in 1st.
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great, another nasser thread, why dont you go bid on his used oiled trunks on ebay...
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go and fuck urself..
Sherief Shalaby s love of the cock is undenying :-\
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i am not pakistani but i am sure any pakistani is better than a piece of shit like u..
true
the cock-loving runs deep in the Muslim highlands of northern pakistan.....
according to wikipedia, there are more homosexual brothels in paksitan than anywhere in the world
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ok so why does dorian look better than the others in the pics of mr. o. 95 but looks worse than most of the other top guys in the pics of 1997??.. the probelm in 97 is not pics but dorian himself..
Lets look at it this way
Dorian said that in photos he doesn't look as impressive as in video's or in person.
So what you you do? Post more photo's. Well done. ;D ;D ;D
It's just like the 2001 Mr.O, in photo's Jay looks great, like he had a chance to beat Ronnie. In the video, Ronnie is so far ahead you have to wonder what the judges were thinking putting Jay in 1st.
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ok i will buy one 4 u and shove it down your throat till u die with ur donkey head..
great, another nasser thread, why dont you go bid on his used oiled trunks on ebay...
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all this dwelling on the "great" nassers non win has got to be unhealthy. Move on, Dorian did only he had Sandow under one arm and a big fucking cheque under the other.
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LOL. Yet another Nasser/anti-Nasser thread is pivoting on racial threats. Surprise! ::) ;D
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u still didnt say ur "own" opinion..
LOL. Yet another Nasser/anti-Nasser thread is pivoting on racial threats. Surprise! ::) ;D
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ok i will buy one 4 u and shove it down your throat till u die with ur donkey head..
hey calm down habibi, whats the matter you lost the bid?
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there was never an imbalance between nasser's front and back in terms of size and thickness, the imbalance ws only in details.. in side poses the details of the back r not seen so there is no point to say so..
i too watched the videos of mr. 95 and 97 and for me it's the same as in pics but videos expose dorian's supriority over nasser in posing more than pics..
so if you are talking about imbalance, what about the crystal clear imbalance between dorian's right arm and his left??.. his left arm looked not only very small but also deformed.. in certain shots it looked smaller than his left forearm!!.. dorian was the clear winner in 1995 from the video and from pics. and felt behind nasser in 1997 in the video and also pics.. pics r no more than a shot from the video..
i respect the fact that dorian decided to compete after this fatal left tri injury but i dont respect the blind judges who gave him the title.. they were really blind not only 2 give him the title but also for not noticing his injury during the show.. they knew after when dorian narrated the story in magazines.. really shameful!!..
The torn bicep only comes into play during 1 mandatory, being the front double biceps shot. Otherwise, it is a non issue. People harp on the bicep, but seem to turn a blind eye when their favorite is lacking in an area. Missing an entire back, in my mind, and it would seem in the judges minds also, is much more pertinent. Indeed, Nasser looked superior from the front in some poses. But the rational for Yates winning clearly had a lot to do with the shots once things turned to the side and back. Yates had too much overall development for Nasser to contend with. It is easy for people to judge simply on a select few front shots and bestow a victory on the athlete who looks more pleasing in those shots, but the judging panel looks at overall development. During Dorian's reign, even while at his best, there were others who may have looked more pleasing, but according the judging guidelines, were lacking in overall development and therefore, did not win.
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r u sure dorian's small deformed arm was clear only in the front d.b.??.. so wht abt the front relaxed, the left side relaxed, front lat spread, rear d.b.??.. yes even in the front lat spread and the rear d.b. his left arm looked the same size of his forearm.. also during his routine and in many shots his weakness was exposed in front of anyone with good eyes.. he was lucky some of the judges were his friends and some were blind and some were just followers to the fibb desire.. check the below pics..
The torn bicep only comes into play during 1 mandatory, being the front double biceps shot. Otherwise, it is a non issue. People harp on the bicep, but seem to turn a blind eye when their favorite is lacking in an area. Missing an entire back, in my mind, and it would seem in the judges minds also, is much more pertinent. Indeed, Nasser looked superior from the front in some poses. But the rational for Yates winning clearly had a lot to do with the shots once things turned to the side and back. Yates had too much overall development for Nasser to contend with. It is easy for people to judge simply on a select few front shots and bestow a victory on the athlete who looks more pleasing in those shots, but the judging panel looks at overall development. During Dorian's reign, even while at his best, there were others who may have looked more pleasing, but according the judging guidelines, were lacking in overall development and therefore, did not win.
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and..
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I'm presenting an interpretation on the basis of how the contest itself was evidently judged. You are free to disagree and interpret the contest differently, that is your prerogative. Simply put, Nasser knew what he had to do in order to put himself in a better position to win the title. It was well publicized that he needed to improve his back substantially. He didn't, therefore he didn't win. As a result, it shouldn't come as any surprise that his mantle is devoid of a Sandow. Either his back was a bodypart that simply didn't respond, or he didn't make the necessary adjustments to his training in order to improve it enough. From what I understand, his training form for back exercises was extremely poor.
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no not a training problem, coz his back looked ok in 94 and early 95 when was competing at around 250 pounds.. only when he started 2 compete over 270 pounds his back lacked details.. but if he didnt knw hw 2 train it as u r saying he wouldn't have gained all this size in it..
I'm presenting an interpretation on the basis of how the contest itself was evidently judged. You are free to disagree and interpret the contest differently, that is your prerogative. Simply put, Nasser knew what he had to do in order to put himself in a better position to win the title. It was well publicized that he needed to improve his back substantially. He didn't, therefore he didn't win. As a result, it shouldn't come as any surprise that his mantle is devoid of a Sandow. Either his back was a bodypart that simply didn't respond, or he didn't make the necessary adjustments to his training in order to improve it enough. From what I understand, his training form for back exercises was extremely poor.
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so wht about dorian's shoulders, why did they look so smaller beside kvn lvrn or nasser??.. was he training them in a poor way or they just didnt respond good :)
I'm presenting an interpretation on the basis of how the contest itself was evidently judged. You are free to disagree and interpret the contest differently, that is your prerogative. Simply put, Nasser knew what he had to do in order to put himself in a better position to win the title. It was well publicized that he needed to improve his back substantially. He didn't, therefore he didn't win. As a result, it shouldn't come as any surprise that his mantle is devoid of a Sandow. Either his back was a bodypart that simply didn't respond, or he didn't make the necessary adjustments to his training in order to improve it enough. From what I understand, his training form for back exercises was extremely poor.
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u still didnt say ur "own" opinion..
Hmm. Don't know if I have a horse in this race. I've never 'gotten' Dorian - great back, calves and conditioning aside - I've always found him blocky and sort of thrown together. Nasser, lacks a bit in conditioning, and has a lesser back, but I find he has better 'flow' than Dorian. So, six of one and half-dozen of the other!? Not worth arguing about is what I'm saying. :D
Edit: Never like the (later) shitty arms on Dorian. A Mr. Olympia should have the guns.
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go and fuck urself..
HAHA!! Get a grip buddy...! Nasser will never ,ever be a champion...His time came and went...At his best...he wasnt good enough. At his worst...He wasn't good... Uncrowned Mr.Olympia.. HAHAHA!!
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so wht about dorian's shoulders, why did they look so smaller beside kvn lvrn or nasser??.. was he training them in a poor way or they just didnt respond good :)
I fail to grasp the intended point of your pointing out perceived flaws in Dorian's physique. Obviously, whatever they may be, they are not relevant, being that Dorian won with straight first scores. Flaws are only relevant for those aspiring to win the title, but failing to.
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Hw r u Mr. worm :D
HAHA!! Get a grip buddy...! Nasser will never ,ever be a champion...His time came and went...At his best...he wasnt good enough. At his worst...He wasn't good... Uncrowned Mr.Olympia.. HAHAHA!!
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Obviously, whatever they may be, they are not relevant, being that Dorian won with straight first scores.
no, they would have been VERY relevant with accurate judging... ::)
you cant look at the score sheet alone and say dorian was perfect.
you have to look at that, then look to his physique, and well, the two are far far apart, at least post tear..
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no, they would have been VERY relevant with accurate judging... ::)
you cant look at the score sheet alone and say dorian was perfect.
you have to look at that, then look to his physique, and well, the two are far far apart, at least post tear..
didn't Kevin Horton explain to you about how contests are judged you dummy? didn't he explain that one can still lose poses and still get straight firsts? lol brutal selfowning again
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dorian once say to me that "nasser will never win mrO cos he refuse to join the G4p weider team".
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so wht about dorian's shoulders, why did they look so smaller beside kvn lvrn or nasser??.. was he training them in a poor way or they just didnt respond good :)
Yates=hard training
Levrone=esiclene
Nasser=synthol
HTH
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Yates=hard training
Levrone=esiclene
Nasser=synthol
HTH
ronnie coleman=grits
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ronnie coleman=grits
yip yip ;D
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nasser is owning dorian in all those shots w/ exception of rear lat spread. anyone who disagrees doesnt know shit about bodybuilding
Settle down "Big" tymer... there is more to it.
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is not an interesting coincidence that the army of clowns who spend all their life talking about Nasser El Sonbaty in a bitter way are also the ones who are openly the most racist against Arabs and the Muslim?
hmm it is also revealing that even the Yates no1 fanboy, nastysissy dietboy , cannot even say that he thought Yates had the best physique in 1997. he just has to make silly arguments about the judging criteria meaning he deserved to win.
this after we KNOW that many judges had the repugnant, reformed violent racist and convicted burglar as low as 3rd and 4th place.
stupid, pasty face racists.
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is not an interesting coincidence that the army of clowns who spend all their life talking about Nasser El Sonbaty in a bitter way are also the ones who are openly the most racist against Arabs and the Muslim?
hmm it is also revealing that even the Yates no1 fanboy, nastysissy dietboy , cannot even say that he thought Yates had the best physique in 1997. he just has to make silly arguments about the judging criteria meaning he deserved to win.
this after we KNOW that many judges had the repugnant, reformed violent racist and convicted burglar as low as 3rd and 4th place.
stupid, pasty face racists.
How's the weather in Chi-town big guy?
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Hw r u Mr. worm :D
Okay Brotha..Yourself?
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is not an interesting coincidence that the army of clowns who spend all their life talking about Nasser El Sonbaty in a bitter way are also the ones who are openly the most racist against Arabs and the Muslim?
hmm it is also revealing that even the Yates no1 fanboy, nastysissy dietboy , cannot even say that he thought Yates had the best physique in 1997. he just has to make silly arguments about the judging criteria meaning he deserved to win.
this after we KNOW that many judges had the repugnant, reformed violent racist and convicted burglar as low as 3rd and 4th place.
stupid, pasty face racists.
Nasser ,does Sharif Shalawabi buy your sweat soaked thongs like bigslob does?
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is not an interesting coincidence that the army of clowns who spend all their life talking about Nasser El Sonbaty in a bitter way are also the ones who are openly the most racist against Arabs and the Muslim?
hmm it is also revealing that even the Yates no1 fanboy, nastysissy dietboy , cannot even say that he thought Yates had the best physique in 1997. he just has to make silly arguments about the judging criteria meaning he deserved to win.
this after we KNOW that many judges had the repugnant, reformed violent racist and convicted burglar as low as 3rd and 4th place.
stupid, pasty face racists.
So, the judges are racist and this is to blame for Nasser having not won the Mr. Olympia?? If racism were really such an issue, why would this band of so called racist judges even allow Nasser to place as high as second? Rather than playing the race card like a fool, perhaps you should be more logical and realize that Nasser simply was not deserving of the title.
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yes yes nasser was not deserving the title and the one deformed arm big belly dorian deserved it.. yes yes you r talking right.. you know if kevin leverone for example took it tht day i wouldn't argue wth one word coz like tht it would be apple vs orange comparison with nasser.. and i cant base my argument on my own taste.. but in yates case it was orange vs rotten orange comparison bet. nasr and drn.. at his best yates ws the best ever but in 97 he ws far away from his best and for me didnt deserve to be even 2nd..
So, the judges are racist and this is to blame for Nasser having not won the Mr. Olympia?? If racism were really such an issue, why would this band of so called racist judges even allow Nasser to place as high as second? Rather than playing the race card like a fool, perhaps you should be more logical and realize that Nasser simply was not deserving of the title.
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yes yes nasser was not deserving the title and the one deformed arm big belly dorian deserved it.. yes yes you r talking right.. you know if kevin leverone for example took it tht day i wouldn't argue wth one word coz like tht it would be apple vs orange comparison with nasser.. and i cant base my argument on my own taste.. but in yates case it was orange vs rotten orange comparison bet. nasr and drn.. at his best yates ws the best ever but in 97 he ws far away from his best and for me didnt deserve to be even 2nd..
Why are you so obsessed with Nasi , Sharif? ???
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whn saying tht dorian at his best ws the best ever, does this make me a blind nasser follower???... here in this thread i am saying tht dorian looked very bad in 97 and didnt deserve to beat the other top guys tht's all.. in 97 i felt bad 4 dorian 2 look like this and felt very bad 4 the sport..
u hate nasser coz he is muslim and half arab, ok this is ur opinion and u r free but dont say his body ws shit just coz u hate muslims..
dont be another piece of shit and try 2 answe wth some logic..
Why are you so obsessed with Nasi , Sharif? ???
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is not an interesting coincidence that the army of clowns who spend all their life talking about Nasser El Sonbaty in a bitter way are also the ones who are openly the most racist against Arabs and the Muslim?
hmm it is also revealing that even the Yates no1 fanboy, nastysissy dietboy , cannot even say that he thought Yates had the best physique in 1997. he just has to make silly arguments about the judging criteria meaning he deserved to win.
this after we KNOW that many judges had the repugnant, reformed violent racist and convicted burglar as low as 3rd and 4th place.
stupid, pasty face racists.
Hmmmm
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Sherief you seem pretty committed to this, you are even putting links to Nasser fan pages on Dorian pages on Facebook ;)
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whn saying tht dorian at his best ws the best ever, does this make me a blind nasser follower???... here in this thread i am saying tht dorian looked very bad in 97 and didnt deserve to beat the other top guys tht's all.. in 97 i felt bad 4 dorian 2 look like this and felt very bad 4 the sport..
u hate nasser coz he is muslim and half arab, ok this is ur opinion and u r free but dont say his body ws shit just coz u hate muslims..
dont be another piece of shit and try 2 answe wth some logic..
In reality I dont hate Nasser..but look how he acts , like a sore looser..Dorian was the best of his era , haney was the best before him and big ron after him..Of course there were "close" calls after all it was a competition..but it was over 10 years ago..id respect him more if he was graceful in defeat. :)
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In reality I dont hate Nasser..but look how he acts , like a sore looser..Dorian was the best of his era , haney was the best before him and big ron after him..Of course there were "close" calls after all it was a competition..but it was over 10 years ago..id respect him more if he was graceful in defeat. :)
Never gonna happen though is it, his whingeing, crying and dishing out of the dirt on friends & the race card sickens me and what is just as bad are all of his fanboys worshipping a man who carrys on like a petulant schoolboy who dwells on the past and cant move on and they cant move on with him.........such "injustice" from 11 years ago need at least 500 threads so all the good upstanding GB members do not succumb to bitterness and twattyness!
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i am the one who created the page :) do u like it??
Sherief you seem pretty committed to this, you are even putting links to Nasser fan pages on Dorian pages on Facebook ;)
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Never gonna happen though is it, his whingeing, crying and dishing out of the dirt on friends & the race card sickens me and what is just as bad are all of his fanboys worshipping a man who carrys on like a petulant schoolboy who dwells on the past and cant move on and they cant move on with him.........such "injustice" from 11 years ago need at least 500 threads so all the good upstanding GB members do not succumb to bitterness and twattyness!
Quoted for the honest truth 8)
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Cherry Chalab the stinking Arab pakistani rock thrower
dont deny your Paki heritage....yes, it is shameful.....but embrace the Donkey loving ways
oh, btw:
Dorian 6 Nasser 0
lol
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Photos are one thing, videos another and what the judges see from their is a whole different thing also. Of course, on pics Nasser looks superior in '97. On the video, well, it's not that clea at all. And actually Dorian still looks harder then Nasser even though the proportions are no longer in Dorian's favor. Nasser was actually better at a lower weight. He couldn't hold the mass/conditioning combo together like Dorian did. From the back, that was too obvious. It could have gon his way that year. but it could also have gone Kevin or Shawn's way without thta being a scandal. The fact is that when it's all said an done, Dorian at his all-time worse as a competitor was still on par with Nasser at his supposedly best.
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is it not an interesting coincidence that nassoil's biggest fanboys are muslim?
I suppose that they can relate to nassoil's wifebeating ways.
is not an interesting coincidence that the army of clowns who spend all their life talking about Nasser El Sonbaty in a bitter way are also the ones who are openly the most racist against Arabs and the Muslim?
hmm it is also revealing that even the Yates no1 fanboy, nastysissy dietboy , cannot even say that he thought Yates had the best physique in 1997. he just has to make silly arguments about the judging criteria meaning he deserved to win.
this after we KNOW that many judges had the repugnant, reformed violent racist and convicted burglar as low as 3rd and 4th place.
stupid, pasty face racists.
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is not an interesting coincidence that the army of clowns who spend all their life talking about Nasser El Sonbaty in a bitter way are also the ones who are openly the most racist against Arabs and the Muslim?
hmm it is also revealing that even the Yates no1 fanboy, nastysissy dietboy , cannot even say that he thought Yates had the best physique in 1997. he just has to make silly arguments about the judging criteria meaning he deserved to win.
this after we KNOW that many judges had the repugnant, reformed violent racist and convicted burglar as low as 3rd and 4th place.
stupid, pasty face racists.
LOL. ;D
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did i ever say tht the judges were racist??.. r u imagining things??.. plz go back to my reply # 91 i sent to ND..
Just answer the question! You opened the door, but now refuse to answer a basic question in response to your own statements. If the judges were racist, as you claim, why would they even allow Nasser to place as high as second? If you can make a baseless statement accusing racism, have the balls to back it up.
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did i ever say tht the judges were racist??.. r u imagining things??.. plz go back to my reply # 91 i sent to ND..
Even if not directly, that seemed to be the inference. In the event that is not the case, you still seemed to allege racism as the basis for those that agree with Yates defeating Nasser. Now if by your own admission the judges were not racist, why should those that agreed with the decision be deemed as such? Assuming that is the correct inference. To throw out racism so flippantly can't help but lead to misunderstanding, so feel free to fully explain the intended meaning of your comments.
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Even if not directly, that seemed to be the inference. In the event that is not the case, you still seemed to allege racism as the basis for those that agree with Yates defeating Nasser. Now if by your own admission the judges were not racist, why should those that agreed with the decision be deemed as such? Assuming that is the correct inference.
i didnt call any one racist here except those who talked shit about muslims and arabs.. but with respectable giys like u or ND i never call them racist, we r just exchanging our thoughts..
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i didnt call any one racist here except those who talked shit about muslims and arabs.. but with respectable giys like u or ND i never call them racist, we r just exchanging our thoughts..
OK, I understand what you are saying. My apologies for reaching the wrong conclusion.
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OK, I understand what you are saying. My apologies for reaching the wrong conclusion.
no problem at all..
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i believe there is credence to the story that the majority decision of the judges had these final placings
1. nasser
2. shawn ray
3. yates
4. dillet
5. lee priest
6. levrone
before the "official"scorecard was tabulated, steve weinberger+jim manion made the necessary amendments so their favorite yates could win and also lee priest was relegated to 6th after they found levrone absolutely distraught backstage, crying about his placing
people have to remember that yates was v good friends with weinberger and bev francis who were judges in 1996 and 1997 and maybe 1995. weinberger may not have judged in 97 but he did in 96 and he had alot of influence over other judges in 97.
the decision was definitely based on the favoritism of yates.
the man with the best physique on the day of the 97 O was Nasser
history will show yates won on the "official" scorecards
but history will also show that Nasser El Sonbaty was the true winner on that day in the eyes of the bodybuilding world and the fans
fucking AMAZING post. you should read this guy as he one the most intelligent and knowledgeable on board
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fucking AMAZING post. you should read this guy as he one the most intelligent and knowledgeable on board
You and him are one in the same though BigSlob/Nassoil ???
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You and him are one in the same though BigSlob/Nassoil ???
Limited mind of a pumpkinhead at play here. Nasser has a huge fanbase, he has treated his fans like equals, like friends and thus he have many , many who think he is great. Not only that, he is greatest ever human examples of mass, symmetry and aesthetic beauty, ever. No other bodybuilder have such an extraordinary combination of these 3 factors.
Not everyone who like is the same person. That sound more like the antics of you, dreadlord.
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Limited mind of a pumpkinhead at play here. Nasser has a huge fanbase, he has treated his fans like equals, like friends and thus he have many , many who think he is great. Not only that, he is greatest ever human examples of mass, symmetry and aesthetic beauty, ever. No other bodybuilder have such an extraordinary combination of these 3 factors.
Not everyone who like is the same person. That sound more like the antics of you, dreadlord.
Why are you such a sore looser Nasser?
A real champion is both gracefull in defeat and victory.
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Limited mind of a pumpkinhead at play here. Nasser has a huge fanbase, he has treated his fans like equals, like friends and thus he have many , many who think he is great. Not only that, he is greatest ever human examples of mass, symmetry and aesthetic beauty, ever. No other bodybuilder have such an extraordinary combination of these 3 factors.
Not everyone who like is the same person. That sound more like the antics of you, dreadlord.
his sharma, is this shitty boy the same old shit wth the name dreadlord?? i thought he is a new shit :D
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his sharma, is this shitty boy the same old shit wth the name dreadlord?? i thought he is a new shit :D
Im flattered you think im DL :)
Tell me , why you behave like this in your culture. :-X
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Why are you such a sore looser Nasser?
A real champion is both gracefull in defeat and victory.
bump on this
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Im flattered you think im DL :)
Tell me , why you behave like this in your culture. :-X
He is fucking that little boy with his tongue ??? :o :'( He won't recover
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He is fucking that little boy with his tongue ??? :o :'( He won't recover
And look how he has grabbed the poor lil fullas hand and is thrusting it toward his cheesy sand covered knob :-X :-\
And these clowns think they are "real men"...it seems to become a real man in islam you must first molest little boys and beat/degrade women :( :-[
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Im flattered you think im DL :)
why does he know how 2 deal wth ur ass??
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And look how he has grabbed the poor lil fullas hand and is thrusting it toward his cheesy sand covered knob :-X :-\
And these clowns think they are "real men"...it seems to become a real man in islam you must first molest little boys and beat/degrade women :( :-[
the little boy ws abt 2 die so this man ws giving him a life kiss to save him, tht's all so dont imagine things... bbbbbbooooohahahahahahaa aa.....
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Im flattered you think im DL :)
Tell me , why you behave like this in your culture. :-X
haha look at the look on that kid in the background. He's thinking "I'm looking for misa gudbar, and i had foun heem!"
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why does he know how 2 deal wth ur ass??
Whos gimmick are you?
:o
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the little boy ws abt 2 die so this man ws giving him a life kiss to save him, tht's all so dont imagine things... bbbbbbooooohahahahahahaa aa.....
If I was about to die Im sure the last thing id want is some filthy old pedophile ramming his tung down my throat whilst he grabbed my hand and rammed it into to his greencheese infested crotch...but hes a real man isnt he ::)
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his sharma, is this shitty boy the same old shit wth the name dreadlord?? i thought he is a new shit :D
What's the matter challabi?
Did you drop your pretense about being a Yates fan?
Bigoted donkey faced liars like you can't keep up the pretense forever.
Nice to see that you've outed yourself as one of Nassers little thongboys.
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Limited mind of a pumpkinhead at play here. Nasser has a huge fanbase, he has treated his fans like equals, like friends and thus he have many , many who think he is great. Not only that, he is greatest ever human examples of mass, symmetry and aesthetic beauty, ever. No other bodybuilder have such an extraordinary combination of these 3 factors.
Not everyone who like is the same person. That sound more like the antics of you, dreadlord.
Tough luck little goatherder because the scourge is back.
I see you're still -blowing nasser.
Time to have some fun at your expense.
Just like old times
;D
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What's the matter challabi?
Did you drop your pretense about being a Yates fan?
Bigoted liars like you can't keep up the pretense forever.
Nice to see that you've outed yourself as one of Nassers little thongboys.
welcome back big bag of shit.. belive me u r the original shit :D
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welcome back big bag of shit.. belive me u r the original shit :D
Ha ha ha
Is that the best you've got?
.Weak- just like your arguements
You truly are an ass -faced retard..right?...Donkeyboy
:D
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Ha ha ha
Is that the best you've got?
.Weak- just like your arguements
You truly are an ass -faced retard..right?...Donkeyboy
:D
no it ws just a greeting and u shouldn't b ashamed when i describe u..
if u c my arguments weak let's knw urs this is in case u knw anytng abt bb..
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no it ws just a greeting and u shouldn't b ashamed when i describe u..
if u c my arguments weak let's knw urs this is in case u knw anytng abt bb..
Maybe when you can type a coherent word/sentence you'll actually make sense.
How long did you scratch your head while trying to think of a response?
Your lame attempts at comebacks are hilarious
Were you one of the many Egyptians screwed out of a proper education?
No wonder you're so hung up over oiled up men with thongs. That's all you'll ever know.
Damn..I shouldn't be making fun of the illiterate but in your case I'll make an exception ;D
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Maybe when you can type a coherent word/sentence you'll actually make sense.
How long did you scratch your head while trying to think of a response?
Your lame attempts at comebacks are hilarious
Were you one of the many Egyptians screwed out of a proper education?
No wonder you're so hung up over oiled up men with thongs. That's all you'll ever know.
Damn..I shouldn't be making fun of the illiterate but in your case I'll make an exception ;D
is this wht u knw abt bb??.. i asked abt ur thoughts if u knw anything abt the game and u continued 2 b the same shit u always r.. so again i am left wth nthng 2 answer u but go and fuk ur big fatty ass.. thn put ur donkey head inside it till u die.. hahhaahaa imagine urself in ths position with ur head inside ur big ass??..
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Chalabai wants in the Nasser club bad......very bad
your doing quite well Cherry Chalabi
Next you'll be bending over and taking one from Nasser's loyal canine.....just close your eyes and pretend its a donkey...you'll be right
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is this wht u knw abt bb??.. i asked abt ur thoughts if u knw anything abt the game and u continued 2 b the same shit u always r.. so again i am left wth nthng 2 answer u but go and fuk ur big fatty ass.. thn put ur donkey head inside it till u die.. hahhaahaa imagine urself in ths position with ur head inside ur big ass??..
What the hell? ???
Can't you type anything properly instead of spewing like retard.
Sorry Chalabi but I don't understand all that gibberish.
Take your mom's cock out of your mouth before you start typing donkeyboy.
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What the hell? ???
Can't you type anything properly instead of spewing like retard.
Sorry Chalabi but I don't understand all that gibberish.
Take your mom's cock out of your mouth before you start typing donkeyboy.
do u spend all ur day here u piece of shit?? i went to the gym and came back and u r still here posting shit!!.. go and move ur fat ass..
i culd easily answer ur last line wth smthng like (go and fuk ur mother) but i cant say ths as it's against my morals.. i dont knw her and she may be a good person wth an ill fate 2 have a pice of shit as her son..
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do u spend all ur day here u piece of shit?? i went to the gym and came back and u r still here posting shit!!.. go and move ur fat ass..
i culd easily answer ur last line wth smthng like (go and fuk ur mother) but i cant say ths as it's against my morals.. i dont knw her and she may be a good person wth an ill fate 2 have a pice of shit as her son..
Donkeyboy has morals? wow :o
Do you even know what that word means?
Instead of littering getbig with your Yates envy why don't you go work on your English.
Maybe then you can actually finish a sentence like an intelligent adult instead of sounding like a bratty 8yr old with a lisp.
You're sad case Chalabi.
I feel sorry for your family for having to put up with such an ignorant savage like yourself.
Morons like you give Egyptians a bad name
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Donkeyboy has morals? wow :o
Do you even know what that word means?
Instead of littering getbig with your Yates envy why don't you go work on your English.
Maybe then you can actually finish a sentence like an intelligent adult instead of sounding like a bratty 8yr old with a lisp.
You're sad case Chalabi.
I feel sorry for your family for having to put up with such an ignorant savage like yourself.
Morons like you give Egyptians a bad name
Speaking of Yates, you guys may want to check this out:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=69359.0
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Jezus christ, is this shit still going on?
STOP IT
That was funny
Looks to me like they're still at it
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nasser is owning dorian in all those shots w/ exception of rear lat spread. anyone who disagrees doesnt know shit about bodybuilding
Exactly...
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Why the hell did you screw up Dorian's writing with your own dumbass comments? ::)
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Donkeyboy has morals? wow :o
Do you even know what that word means?
Instead of littering getbig with your Yates envy why don't you go work on your English.
Maybe then you can actually finish a sentence like an intelligent adult instead of sounding like a bratty 8yr old with a lisp.
You're sad case Chalabi.
I feel sorry for your family for having to put up with such an ignorant savage like yourself.
Morons like you give Egyptians a bad name
and stupid donkeys like u give all donkeys a bad reputation..
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That was funny
Looks to me like they're still at it
haha look who decided to come crawling back to getbig
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haha look who decided to come crawling back to getbig
did this piece of filth left gd 4 a while???.. does he have anythng 2 do in his shitty life?? :D
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did this piece of filth left gd 4 a while???.. does he have anythng 2 do in his shitty life?? :D
haha very true my friend...nick is back...
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haha look who decided to come crawling back to getbig
Still psychologically scarred from the last encounter eh natfag83?
Too bad all you have is getbig to make up for your shattered life.
How is your fiancee' Don by the way
Are ya'll married yet?
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and stupid donkeys like u give all donkeys a bad reputation..
hah hah ha
Good grief Chalabi - you really suck at comebacks don't you?
Still shivering in rage eh Donkeyboy?
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Still psychologically scarred from the last encounter eh natfag83?
Too bad all you have is getbig to make up for your shattered life.
How is your fiancee' Don by the way
Are ya'll married yet?
haha same old crap from u nick! whens xmas break for u at uconn??? are u doing well this semester??
my life is great right now! nope not married yet! soon!
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haha same old crap from u nick! whens xmas break for u at uconn??? are u doing well this semester??
my life is great right now! nope not married yet! soon!
Who is this Nick you're so fascinated with?
Nicky Smith?.
What's his getbig handle?
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Who is this Nick you're so fascinated with?
Nicky Smith?.
What's his getbig handle?
u are nick...your other acct is bezerkfury or gigantorx...nick is your name
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u are nick...your other acct is bezerkfury or gigantorx...nick is your name
ahhh...I see
I presume you're using bluto's logic in thinking I'm BF
SO BF's real name is Nick?
Interesting
Too bad you're barking up the wrong tree.
But feel free to assume I'm Nick - it'll makes it more interesting when real BF joins in
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ahhh...I see
I presume you're using bluto's logic in thinking I'm BF
SO BF's real name is Nick?
Interesting
Too bad you're barking up the wrong tree.
But feel free to assume I'm Nick - it'll makes it more interesting when real BF joins in
hahahahahahahahahahahhahahhahha
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So how is your bluto identity going?
Must be tough switching back and forth
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So how is your bluto identity going?
Must be tough switching back and forth
it was proven bluto is not me...sorry dreadlord..youve missed a lot while u were gone on your sabbatical!!
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it was proven bluto is not me...sorry dreadlord..youve missed a lot while u were gone on your sabbatical!!
So where is the proof?
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So where is the proof?
check the yboard :o
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check the yboard :o
yeah right sure ::)
Try being a little less vague and a little more specific
In which thread was this conclusive proof displayed?