Comments on Dorian's comments about Nasser.

[Sherief Shalaby]

ugly raciest.. go and put ur head in ur fat ass till u die.. whn u die the world stupidity will decrease by half..

shut it you arab pancake....

[Mr.1derful]

Nasser knew what he needed to do to win the title.  His back was a glaring weakness that the champ, all recent Olympia champs, have not had.  He did not make needed improvements and never did win the title as a result, end of story.  

If Nasser had truly believed his physique to be Olympia champion caliber, why the need to, at any point,  resort to shooting his delts and arms?  Such a tactic is indicative of insecurity.  Even after Yates tore his left bicep, he didn't resort to such a thing.  Such a tactic might have seemed more logical in the event Greg Valentino were Mr. Olympia for a time, but in the real world, I fail to see the logic in Nasser having gone such a route.   And I'm tired of Nasser's stupid denials about Synthol.  He's an allegedly educated man, so he should know better than to protest the criticisms in this area.  It matters not what the actual substance used was, he put "something" in there, that is obvious.  And even if we were all that naive to believe that the appearance that his delts ultimately took on was not resultant from a foreign substance, they still stood out like a sore thumb, which would necessitate him being marked down no matter what.  

[Hulkster]

One question. If Nassar was so good, why wasn't he able to come back the next year and win the title after Dorian retired? That's what Dorian did after placing a close second to Haney.

two words:


Ronnie Coleman:

[dr.chimps]

*Opens thread. Sees same old wine in new bottles. Closes thread*

[Camel Jockey]

settle down gloria
don't get your panties in a bunch

You settle down, you stupidass french queer.

One part does not win an entire contest.

[Camel Jockey]

*Opens thread. Sees same old wine in new bottles. Closes thread*

Um... LOL

Wine gets finer with age so you are implying that continued arguments over these issues get better each time? 

[dr.chimps]

Um... LOL

Wine gets finer with age so you are implying that continued arguments over these issues get better each time? 

LOL. No, CJ, I'd tell the wine server that the bottle is 'corked' and look for a new selection.   

[Sharma]

 Very insightful post by the sherief.
This has been explored many time and the facts always stay true:

people who know bodybuilding are shocked that the vile, repugnant and disgusting human , Yates, stole the Olympia from a man who dominated him in every single facet bar lower back.
Even Nasser match the repulsive thug on back thickness.

The only people who defend Yates are those who are themself racist like their ex-convict, former racist skinhead.

Yates is in financial trouble and this is why his trash mouth finally starts to speak.
We all know that he robbed the Olympia but what do one expect from a convicted burglar?

The only people who defend him are the sad, unwashed and lonely pasty racist who spout nothing but racist words against the Arab.

[wes]

 

[Sherief Shalaby]

Thx sharma

even this guy ND who is the biggest dorian fan here confessed tht nasser ws better on tht day ..

Very insightful post by the sherief.
This has been explored many time and the facts always stay true:

people who know bodybuilding are shocked that the vile, repugnant and disgusting human , Yates, stole the Olympia from a man who dominated him in every single facet bar lower back.
Even Nasser match the repulsive thug on back thickness.

The only people who defend Yates are those who are themself racist like their ex-convict, former racist skinhead.

Yates is in financial trouble and this is why his trash mouth finally starts to speak.
We all know that he robbed the Olympia but what do one expect from a convicted burglar?

The only people who defend him are the sad, unwashed and lonely pasty racist who spout nothing but racist words against the Arab.

[Sherief Shalaby]

i agree wth u but u r talking abt smthng happened after 1997 mr. O. which is the subject here.. i am nt saying that nasser showed any good shape after his last victory at ac 99.. i am talking here abt a certain occasion.. dorian himself was comparing bth of them at mr. o. 97 and not in general..

Nasser knew what he needed to do to win the title.  His back was a glaring weakness that the champ, all recent Olympia champs, have not had.  He did not make needed improvements and never did win the title as a result, end of story.  

If Nasser had truly believed his physique to be Olympia champion caliber, why the need to, at any point,  resort to shooting his delts and arms?  Such a tactic is indicative of insecurity.  Even after Yates tore his left bicep, he didn't resort to such a thing.  Such a tactic might have seemed more logical in the event Greg Valentino were Mr. Olympia for a time, but in the real world, I fail to see the logic in Nasser having gone such a route.   And I'm tired of Nasser's stupid denials about Synthol.  He's an allegedly educated man, so he should know better than to protest the criticisms in this area.  It matters not what the actual substance used was, he put "something" in there, that is obvious.  And even if we were all that naive to believe that the appearance that his delts ultimately took on was not resultant from a foreign substance, they still stood out like a sore thumb, which would necessitate him being marked down no matter what.  

[Mr.1derful]

Thx sharma

even this guy ND who is the biggest dorian fan here confessed tht nasser ws better on tht day ..

ND can say for certain , but I believe his comments indicated a personal preference for Nasser's physique on that day, but he still felt Dorian won according to the judging guidelines.  ND can correct me if I have misquoted him, however.

[slaveboy1980]

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND can say for certain , but I believe his comments indicated a personal preference for Nasser's physique on that day, but he still felt Dorian won according to the judging guidelines.  ND can correct me if I have misquoted him, however.

dead on the money as usual !

[Sherief Shalaby]

what a contradiction!!!.. so in other words we can say ND sees tht the judging guidline of the olympia is shit..

ND can say for certain , but I believe his comments indicated a personal preference for Nasser's physique on that day, but he still felt Dorian won according to the judging guidelines.  ND can correct me if I have misquoted him, however.

[NarcissisticDeity]

what a contradiction!!!.. so in other words we can say ND sees tht the judging guidline of the olympia is shit..

No it's only accurate when Nasser wins when he doesn't it's politics , racism , etc

[Sherief Shalaby]

No it's only accurate when Nasser wins when he doesn't it's politics , racism , etc

of course not and i never thought nasser didn't win the O. in 97 coz he is half arab or muslim or coz of any other "certain" policy.. no.. It was just unfair the same way as when Jay beat Victor in 2007.. we just see the injustice happening but don't knw why.. i am not a blind follower of nasser and yes he looked very bad after 1999.. but during his good years he was the best from the front with no comparison..

[the_swami]

i believe there is credence to the story that the majority decision of the judges had these final placings

1. nasser
2. shawn ray
3. yates
4. dillet
5. lee priest
6. levrone

before the "official"scorecard was tabulated,  steve weinberger+jim manion made the necessary amendments so their favorite yates could win and also lee priest was relegated to 6th after they found levrone absolutely distraught backstage, crying about his placing

people have to remember that yates was v good friends with weinberger and bev francis who were judges in 1996 and 1997 and maybe 1995. weinberger may not have judged in 97 but he did in 96 and he had alot of influence over other judges in 97.

the decision was definitely based on the favoritism of yates.
the man with the best physique on the day of the 97 O was Nasser

history will show yates won on the "official" scorecards
but history will also show that Nasser El Sonbaty was the true winner on that day in the eyes of the bodybuilding world and the fans

[Hulkster]

people have to remember that yates was v good friends with weinberger and bev francis who were judges in 1996 and 1997 and maybe 1995. weinberger may not have judged in 97 but he did in 96 and he had alot of influence over other judges in 97.

and this is something that ND and Co. always forget...

[Mr.1derful]

of course not and i never thought nasser didn't win the O. in 97 coz he is half arab or muslim or coz of any other "certain" policy.. no.. It was just unfair the same way as when Jay beat Victor in 2007.. we just see the injustice happening but don't knw why.. i am not a blind follower of nasser and yes he looked very bad after 1999.. but during his good years he was the best from the front with no comparison..

Indeed, he did look very good from the front, the side and back, not so much.  Ironic actually, that in your praise for Nasser, you only acknowledged him from the front also. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

and this is something that ND and Co. always forget...

You also forget Weinbergger also judged Yates in his first show and he finished second  you knew this because I've told you many times , selective memory anyone?

[Mr.1derful]

You also forget Weinbergger also judged Yates in his first show and he finished second  you knew this because I've told you many times , selective memory anyone?

You'll have to forgive Huckster, he's been preoccupied with his "loose skin" fetish. lol

[donation]

finally a muslim objective enough to not be turned on by nassoil's charms..

If you look at the video you will see that Dorian is the winner without a doubt … I wouldn’t have minded if Kevin placed over Nasser that year either … anyway … what is done is done … but If the judging criteria was clearer and more transparent to everyone we might not have all this debate …

[Sherief Shalaby]

yes sure there was something fishy on tht day.. how come to put kevin after paul and lee in front of the audience then amend the result and put him ahead of them after the show!!!.. This could never happen at a small gym contest not the Olympia!!.. sure there was somethng wrong with the judges on that day..

i believe there is credence to the story that the majority decision of the judges had these final placings

1. nasser
2. shawn ray
3. yates
4. dillet
5. lee priest
6. levrone

before the "official"scorecard was tabulated,  steve weinberger+jim manion made the necessary amendments so their favorite yates could win and also lee priest was relegated to 6th after they found levrone absolutely distraught backstage, crying about his placing

people have to remember that yates was v good friends with weinberger and bev francis who were judges in 1996 and 1997 and maybe 1995. weinberger may not have judged in 97 but he did in 96 and he had alot of influence over other judges in 97.

the decision was definitely based on the favoritism of yates.
the man with the best physique on the day of the 97 O was Nasser

history will show yates won on the "official" scorecards
but history will also show that Nasser El Sonbaty was the true winner on that day in the eyes of the bodybuilding world and the fans

[Sherief Shalaby]

ys coz at the time of his first contest they were still not freinds

You also forget Weinbergger also judged Yates in his first show and he finished second  you knew this because I've told you many times , selective memory anyone?