:-\
Better forearms and triceps sure NOT bigger , although his forearms at the same weights would be bigger
You don't understand anatomy and don't lift either. Coleman's tris are about twice the size, Yates' were more cut.
Here's a good pic of the keg's smallish but cut tris when not pressed against his side.
you and suckmymuscles are probably the only two human beings on this planet earth who would say dorian had better arms than coleman
dorian was never mentioned in a greatest list for a reason
and coleman a;ways makes and 90% of the time top the list for a reason.
when you figure out that reason tou will see the truth
mes
You don't understand anatomy and don't lift either. Coleman's tris are about twice the size, Yates' were more cut.
HAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAA :D
hahaha brutal delusions by ND, who doesn't lift nor understand anatomy. The voices in his head keep reassuring him he's right, what else is new? ;D
same contest and he's actually Flexing ;)
dude its all about shape and size.. colemans winns in both departments
dissect the argument how much you want but after looking at pics (and for those who have seen both in real life) you and suckmymuscles are probably the only two human beings on this planet earth who would say dorian had better arms than coleman
dorian was never mentioned in a greatest list for a reason
and coleman a;ways makes and 90% of the time top the list for a reason.
when you figure out that reason you will see the truth
mes
Already covered, bonehead-his only good triceps shot is when his arm is pushed against his side, distorting the size LOL
listen to me I'm not claiming he has better ARMS just better triceps and forearms ;)
Let me say i saw Dorian compete in 3 Olympias and he fooking wiped the floor with the opposition. Was not even close, photos do not tell the whole story.
I've heard this a lot - what was the difference? his size? 3-d effect? graininess, whatever that is?
Dorian trained harder than Ronnie, thats the key issue here.
dude its all about shape and size.. colemans winns in both departmentsyou'll never win with Narcissistic Gayiety man, he's been Dorian's bottom bitch for years now.
dissect the argument how much you want but after looking at pics (and for those who have seen both in real life) you and suckmymuscles are probably the only two human beings on this planet earth who would say dorian had better arms than coleman
dorian was never mentioned in a greatest list for a reason
and coleman a;ways makes and 90% of the time top the list for a reason.
when you figure out that reason you will see the truth
mes
HAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAA :DHAHAHAHA, BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OMMMMMMMMMMMMM ;D
ENOUGH!you are free to ignore the thread...
of this f**king debate
look at that last pic...
nd can u show me any pic of dorian with arms like that....
i notice you are trying to back peddle like you have never said dorian has better arms than ronnie
:-\
look at that last pic...
nd can u show me any pic of dorian with arms like that....
i notice you are trying to back peddle like you have never said dorian has better arms than ronnie
:-\
how's this? ;D
Amazing how much wider Dorian's shoulders and lats are. :o
Ya, he was a MONSTER. :o
monster forearms Ronnie
Just terrible, reminds of someone else with shitty forearms..
Just terrible, reminds of someone else with shitty forearms..I wouldn't call those forearms shitty
listen to me I'm not claiming he has better ARMS just better triceps and forearms ;)
Ronnie's forearms are shaped like bowling pins , Dorian's are shaped better and insert near the wrist , this helps with proportion in relation to the biceps/triceps
Triceps Ronnie may be bigger however the side head is thin and doesn't show as much deparation as Dorians
AGAIN stop confusing bigger with better , Ronnie's arms may be bigger but his side triceps pose isn't better
You're a VERY stupid person.
I wouldn't call those forearms shitty
You're a VERY stupid person.Thanks for saying " I can't prove you wrong so I'll just go on the offensive " pot calling the kettle black right here
I didn't back peddle I said he has better forearms and triceps that hasn't change , please pay attention when I say better NOT bigger
Thanks for saying " I can't prove you wrong so I'll just go on the offensive " pot calling the kettle black right here
yeah who cares about calves and forearms it's not like they make a difference in balance & proportion ::)
Truth is, you're not worth a reasonable argument. I can appeal to reason all day long and it won't work when it comes to people such as you...so I'm just going straight for it.
We're comparing silhouettes now? You're reaching...as usual.
EPIC FAIL, ONCE AGAIN.
I didn't back peddle I said he has better forearms and triceps that hasn't change , please pay attention when I say better NOT bigger
Kevin Horton on Hulkster " a retard "
We're comparing silhouettes now? You're reaching...as usual.
EPIC FAIL, ONCE AGAIN.
You're not intelligent enough to have an opinion that counts. Getbig is probably the only place others will semi-tolerate your foolish drivel. That said, everyone seems to be reaching a point of extreme frustration with your obsession of Dorian.
Let me sum it up for your feeble mind, ND.
Dorian had a very grainy physique, sported some awesome wheels and trained like a man possessed. However, he had sub-par arms for a top pro bodybuilder and tore his bicep early in his Olympia reign. He also had a big ol' belly and very little V-taper. Dorian's legend is based off B&W pics taken very early in his career when he didn't have torn muscles and a training video where he moved heavy weights in a very strict and controlled fashion. Dorian is an excellent bodybuilder, no doubt....but he's nowhere close to Ronnie. NOT EVEN CLOSE.
I know you can't comprehend this, but I'm putting it out there anyway. Maybe you'll be struck by lightening one day and come to your senses like the rest of getbig.
You're clueless as to what a winning bodybuilding physique should look like.
I'm betting your own physique is rather blocky
You're not intelligent enough to have an opinion that counts. Getbig is probably the only place others will semi-tolerate your foolish drivel. That said, everyone seems to be reaching a point of extreme frustration with your obsession of Dorian.
Let me sum it up for your feeble mind, ND.
Dorian had a very grainy physique, sported some awesome wheels and trained like a man possessed. However, he had sub-par arms for a top pro bodybuilder and tore his bicep early in his Olympia reign. He also had a big ol' belly and very little V-taper. Dorian's legend is based off B&W pics taken very early in his career when he didn't have torn muscles and a training video where he moved heavy weights in a very strict and controlled fashion. Dorian is an excellent bodybuilder, no doubt....but he's nowhere close to Ronnie. NOT EVEN CLOSE.
I know you can't comprehend this, but I'm putting it out there anyway. Maybe you'll be struck by lightening one day and come to your senses like the rest of getbig.
You're not intelligent enough to have an opinion that counts. Getbig is probably the only place others will semi-tolerate your foolish drivel. That said, everyone seems to be reaching a point of extreme frustration with your obsession of Dorian.
Let me sum it up for your feeble mind, ND.
Dorian had a very grainy physique, sported some awesome wheels and trained like a man possessed. However, he had sub-par arms for a top pro bodybuilder and tore his bicep early in his Olympia reign. He also had a big ol' belly and very little V-taper. Dorian's legend is based off B&W pics taken very early in his career when he didn't have torn muscles and a training video where he moved heavy weights in a very strict and controlled fashion. Dorian is an excellent bodybuilder, no doubt....but he's nowhere close to Ronnie. NOT EVEN CLOSE.
I know you can't comprehend this, but I'm putting it out there anyway. Maybe you'll be struck by lightening one day and come to your senses like the rest of getbig.
By the way, Kevin Horton's opinion doesn't really count for much as an objective opinion. Kevin also doesn't seem to know much about how to keep his own self in decent shape.
Just another self-righteous Brit blowing smoke...I got tired of hearing Dorian rail against Americans in his DVD w/Dugdale as well. Dorian perceives Americans as weak-minded pansies. SCREW OFF DORIAN!
Keep fighting the good fight, Hulkster.
ROFL
In my experience, I've found ardent Dorian fans to be a group of guys who viewed Dorian as something far greater than he actually was. They are usually out-of-shape white men who also happen to like Jay Cutler. It's should be called the, "I'll pull for any white guy who's halfway good" syndrome. These people lack a trained eye or a real understanding of what constitutes a top-notch, winning bodybuilding physique.
I'll make it easy for you guys - white guys typically do not have good aesthetics when they put on a ton of muscle. Bob Paris, Benfatto, Rockel, Labrada, Jeffers....all of these men possess classic lines but have not pushed the mass limits.
Look at the top white pros - Gunter, Jay, Dorian....none of these guys have good aesthetics.
In my experience, I've found ardent Dorian fans to be a group of guys who viewed Dorian as something far greater than he actually was. They are usually out-of-shape white men who also happen to like Jay Cutler. It's should be called the, "I'll pull for any white guy who's halfway good" syndrome. These people lack a trained eye or a real understanding of what constitutes a top-notch, winning bodybuilding physique.
I'll make it easy for you guys - white guys typically do not have good aesthetics when they put on a ton of muscle. Bob Paris, Benfatto, Rockel, Labrada, Jeffers....all of these men possess classic lines but have not pushed the mass limits.
Look at the top white pros - Gunter, Jay, Dorian....none of these guys have good aesthetics.
I've been saying this for a loooong time. Basically pasty white UK nationalists and a few from the US are the keg's demographics and relate to him. Sadly it's true about alot of the current white BBs that they adore, though the 70s guys like Arnold and Szkalak were great.
Coleman had horrible aesthetics.
Hope this helps.
Can always rely on you to play the race card
Pumpster posting naked men again saved on his HD :-X
he has many apparently , he posted a pic of some naked guys sack the other day ???
Coleman had horrible aesthetics.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251919.0;attach=292841;image)
Hope this helps.
Can always rely on you to play the race card
he has many apparently , he posted a pic of some naked guys sack the other day ???
There's truth in it, what's your problem?
Says you , you've yet to back up any of your claims , just stick to the ad hominem attacks you're good at those .
Pot calling kettle. You're the one with a pronounced preferrence for "attractive white BBs" coupled with a smattering of "wel-behaved negroes" like Haney LOL
So called "aesthetics" :-X
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251919.0;attach=292841;image)
He likes to fuck trannies what can you say? :-X
This is aesthetic too
Like these aesthetics?
pecial Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?
Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.
Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90. interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.
Jim: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so.
case closed no debate .
ronnie's knows the politics as well as any of us do. the IFBB was into dynasties then.
this should be no surprise. ronnie made a statement on the politcal climate at the time.
its the same as anyone of us would have made.
we are not stupid.
but based on physiques, well, its laughable that ronnie 98 would have lost to a dorian yates in that stage of his career.
we all know that.
but the judges, being what the sport was back then, might have even given it to him.
after all, dorian 97 did not deserve to win (even you agree ND) yet he still did.
You don't understand anatomy and don't lift either. Coleman's tris are about twice the size, Yates' were more cut.
Here's a good pic of the keg's smallish but cut tris when not pressed against his side.
ths shot is from mr. o. 97 where he ws at his worse shape.. so it's not a good example here..
Like these aesthetics?
pecial Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?
Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.
Ya, he was a MONSTER. :o
Please don't presume to speak for Ronnie ;) if that were the case then Ronnie's quote would have looked something like this ;)
THOUGHTS ON LOSING TO SCHLIERKAMP AT THE 2002 GNC SHOW OF STRENGTH:
It was nothing more than a way to create interest in the sport. No reigning Mr. Olympia had lost a show like this before. The goal was to shake things up, set the stage for a three-way battle [with Cutler and Schlierkamp] at the 2003 Mr. Olympia. There was no way in the world that I should have lost the GNC. Just look at the photos. I was victimized by the system
That's Ronnie talking about the politics , when he talks about Dorian he's talking FEAR ;)
According to Huckster, Dumpster and the rest of the seven dwarfs, politics have only worked against Ronnie and in favor of someone such as Yates. lol According to them, Dorian was also the third shooter.
Ronnie looks great there. Which Off-Season Guestposing was that? :)
Major ND ball-worship from one of his dogs lol
Yawn. More ad hominem attacks from a simpleton.
Major plagiarism. Ad hominem from your father-figure, simpleton from moi hahaha try again kid. ;)
1. have you ever seen dorian yates mentioned in a greatest asrm article or on a greatest arm list in a magazine
2.why do you think he has never been on any of them ..yet ronnie is one.. every single one?
please answer this
Nd .. suckmymuscle and england...
can you answer this please
nd....
i know it hurts but some body parts carry greater weight than others.. no one gives a shit about forearms... or calves in comparison....
to the upper arm and legs you walk down the road and i walk down the road i have 20 inch ripped guns you have 16 inc guns with big forarms i will still get more looks....
in face huge forearms on a small arm make the arms look smaller
at the end of the day the GREATEST ARM LIST WHICH IS THE ARM IN ENTIRETY
has Coleman on there most time at no one.. Dorian never made the greatest arm list ever....
so we can conclude that Coleman made the greatest arm list which the whole arm in total and Dorian never made it
because no matter how you dissect it and spin it Coleman's arms made Dorian's looks like toothpicks...
in fact the whole top 10 of the 90's during Dorian reign OWNED him on arms..... badly
the words Dorian... great... arms should not be used in the same sentence...
the factthat you would even compare Dorian's sub par arms to Coleman's... bewilders me...
:-\ :-\
no one else in the entire bb industry has ever coined the sentence Dorian had great arms..
yet here you are saying they are better than arguably the two greatest arms ever...
cmon man....
man, 1500 pages of peak dorian vs peak coleman still has some ground to fight... but dorian having better ARMS than coleman???....... ???
Better forearms absolutely , triceps sure NOT bigger mind you but better in terms of side head shape and separation
dorian's arms looks better in the side tricep pose.... thats about it. His forearms are better, but arms as a whole....well...
You're not intelligent enough to have an opinion that counts. Getbig is probably the only place others will semi-tolerate your foolish drivel. That said, everyone seems to be reaching a point of extreme frustration with your obsession of Dorian.
Let me sum it up for your feeble mind, ND.
Dorian had a very grainy physique, sported some awesome wheels and trained like a man possessed. However, he had sub-par arms for a top pro bodybuilder and tore his bicep early in his Olympia reign. He also had a big ol' belly and very little V-taper. Dorian's legend is based off B&W pics taken very early in his career when he didn't have torn muscles and a training video where he moved heavy weights in a very strict and controlled fashion. Dorian is an excellent bodybuilder, no doubt....but he's nowhere close to Ronnie. NOT EVEN CLOSE.
I know you can't comprehend this, but I'm putting it out there anyway. Maybe you'll be struck by lightening one day and come to your senses like the rest of getbig.
I totally get what you're saying ! at least you get what I'm trying to say
Coleman's arms made Dorian's looks like toothpicks...
This is a great post
Unfortunatley you've been backtracking ever since you made the comment that because dorian has superior triceps and forearms (to you anyway) therefore he has better arms than coleman.
ND, are you saying that Ronnie was missing the muscles at the end of his limbs? ;D
no calves or forearms LOL
You need both to have outstanding balance & proportion
and that wasn't a great post in the least , he didn't counter ANY of my claims , made blanket statements and used ad hominem attacks , Oh I get it now the exact same thing you do lol now wonder why you think it's great lol
I haven't back tracked first of all ;) and the original statement was said tongue in cheek , I could care less about who has the best parts who has the best mandatory pose is what matters most ;)
I totally get what you're saying ! at least you get what I'm trying to say
Somebody doesn't have proportionate biceps to match the size of his forearms & triceps guess which one
Wait a minute, ND, who are you trying to defend with that outline....Coleman's shape owns Dorian's all day long
Wait a minute, ND, who are you trying to defend with that outline....Coleman's shape owns Dorian's all day long
Somebody doesn't have proportionate forearms to match the size of his biceps & triceps guess which one
Somebody doesn't have proportionate forearms to match the size of his biceps & triceps guess which one
And this is what they are - claims.
Spin it whatever way you wish nd, everyone here merely "entertains" your posts, claims, whatever
And you have backtracked. Infact you continue to do so.
There is no tongue in cheek in you
You truly believe the shit that you spout otherwise you wouldnt spend your life on here spouting.
You want to know the reason why its a great post - because to 99% of people it makes sense.
You unfortunately occupy the remaining 1%.
Forearms aren't supposed to be the same size as the upper arm the way they are with the bricklayer.
Utter lack of upper arm development when compared with someone with good arm development.
Don't presume to speak for me I said the comment was made tongue in cheek . and I didn't back track I'll still say he has better triceps & forearms wheres the back track? do I truly believe Dorian would beat Ronnie? absolutely and so does he , so I'm in great company
and again it wasn't a great post he was attacking the messenger because he doesn't like the message. and oh more dumb logic an appeal to numbers 99% of people on here think I'm wrong so I must be wrong lol
Fixed
Looks good here
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Looks good here
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Forearms aren't supposed to be the same size as the upper arm the way they are with the bricklayer.thats what im tellin him huge huge forearms are for fat endomorphs....
Utter lack of upper arm development when compared with someone with good arm development.
and FYI that's from 1996 when Dorian was destroying Ronnie on a regular basis ;)
whats so dumb about that?
Are you suggesting you're right?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHa
your point
Your claim was an imbalance
I proved you wrong
Stop running
thats what im tellin him huge huge forearms are for fat endomorphs....
...
when coleman pulled up his sleeve to reveal his 24 inch cannon..
dorian can roll up his sleeve all day long,.... to show those endomorph forearms .... u tell me who will get more stares...
thing is as well dorians arms were mediocre 20 inches at most ... so those huge forarms made those sub par arms look even smaller...
your point
Your claim was an imbalance
I proved you wrong
Stop running
let me ask someone else since nd wont answer
why do y'all think dorian was never included in the top 50 arms of all times list....
why?
ok fine ... there u said it
ronnie has better arms
...
and i prefer coleman in the side tri imo ...
....
and...
thats only one pose..
but i still prefer coleman in thats pose
note i only said I prefer....
i never made an outlandish statment like u had when you said dorian had better arms than coleman...
which u had to retract
Ronnie's forearms were never in proportion with his massive biceps triceps , at times some years were better than others but again the point stands , and we're not talking about the shape ( bowling pin ) and calves either
It's not a matter a preference it's a matter of who satisfies the criteria better
ha ha ha ok nd...
8)
Blockhead, Schwarzenegger had the same imbalance. Outrageous bis, big but less than outstanding triceps cuts, no forearms. Some of the best arms in BB history, unlike the bricklayer.
ditto
let him believe what he wishes
its makes for light entertainment
just leave him be
you've tried as hard as anyone on this board to help him see but it wont work
BS (again)
Somebody doesn't have proportionate forearms to match the size of his biceps & triceps guess which one
really ? is this where you claim politics that only worked in Dorian's favor and yet never in Ronnies?
Never said that, i actually acknowledge reality and politics in many contests LOL
Not really , you claimed Dorian received more gifts than Ronnie which contradicts reality
why is this thread in existance again? ???
whats really sad is that the picture with dorian holding the towel is probably the best arm shot of his career LOL
What's sad is your attempt to show him in a bad light because you fear great pictures of him
same contest
there are great pics of dorian's arms? 8)
even in 93 they were not that great:
Funny how some people are of the mindset that only the bicep constitutes an arm. Perhaps this makes it easier to overlook deficiencies when it comes to forearms and triceps, I don't know. The same type of mentality applies when it comes to the lower body as well. Calves are seemingly of no importance at all, I guess. ::):o
Funny how some people are of the mindset that only the bicep constitutes an arm. Perhaps this makes it easier to overlook deficiencies when it comes to forearms and triceps
what the fuck :-X
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251919.0;attach=293026;image)
what the fuck :-X
Trying to emulate this winner's "perfect scores". :o
Perhaps this makes it easier to overlook deficiencies when it comes to forearms and triceps, I don't know.
its funny how people overlook the incredible deficiencies yates has in vascularity, hardness, shape, and detail:::)
::)
lol what does ronnie's gut have to do with their flexed arms LOL
ND, you are a desperate and sad man.
::)::) ::)
anyone who thinks Ronnies arms weren't light years ahead of dorians is just being a stubborn idiot.
yup, thats a good way to describe ND and his bitches.;)
stubborn idiots..
ND, what do you do for a living? And are there any posts of your physique floating around this board?
yup, thats a good way to describe ND and his bitches.
stubborn idiots..
let's not forget until 2 days ago I was defending Ronnie ;)
Your instability is something ND relates to.;)
ND, what do you do for a living? And are there any posts of your physique floating around this board?;)
These Ronnie vs Dorian threads have gotten beyond retarded.
I am not biased either way I just believe what i see with my eyes, and that being said, anyone who thinks Ronnies arms weren't light years ahead of dorians is just being a stubborn idiot.
;);)
It's so very obvious, yet you lack the ability to communicate an analytical basis for your position, instead opting to be insolent towards those that disagree with you. A familiar approach it would seem. One wonders if this is resultant of the maladroit nature of the typical Coleman fan, or simply the inability of his physique to provide a solid foundation on which to base an argument. It takes more than a bicep to constitute an arm. Few people would debate that Ronnie has the edge in terms of biceps, but as eluded to, the triceps and forearms also come into play. Likewise, presentation becomes a very important factor while on stage. Dorian's side triceps shot is but one example. Even if one were to concede an advantage to Coleman in the area of biceps, would Dorian's advantage in triceps and forearms not technically give him the advantage in "arms"? Seems like a case of simple deduction.
It's so very obvious, yet you lack the ability to communicate an analytical basis for your position, instead opting to be insolent towards those that disagree with you. A familiar approach it would seem. One wonders if this is resultant of the maladroit nature of the typical Coleman fan, or simply the inability of his physique to provide a solid foundation on which to base an argument. It takes more than a bicep to constitute an arm. Few people would debate that Ronnie has the edge in terms of biceps, but as eluded to, the triceps and forearms also come into play. Likewise, presentation becomes a very important factor while on stage. Dorian's side triceps shot is but one example. Even if one were to concede an advantage to Coleman in the area of biceps, would Dorian's advantage in triceps and forearms not technically give him the advantage in "arms"? Seems like a case of simple deduction.
At least 122% more harder, I would say.
I wanna know if there an alien inside there :-\:-X
No big arms means better arms , or as pumpster refers to them as ' show muscles ' calves mean nothing too
its so ironic you are using a silouette of a 2003 precontest ronnie..versus the best dorian ever offered LOL
::)
this is a taper dorian could never match:
Complete arm development!
yet he never made and greatest arm list....
compiled by bbing veterans and experts...
yet ronnie had made every single one..
and is top 2 mostly no 1
those experts must not have a clue huh...
:-\
No big arms means better arms , or as pumpster refers to them as ' show muscles ' calves mean nothing too
Complete arm development!
yet he never made and greatest arm list....
compiled by bbing veterans and experts...
yet ronnie had made every single one..
and is top 2 mostly no 1
those experts must not have a clue huh...
:-\
another list for you
in which dorian =and ronnie was included
greatest back of all time...
ronnie beat dorian...
... also another list greatest mr olympia of all time
ronnie was also chosen over yates...
process that information
That's an established BB term dating back decades you blockhead LOL there's a reason for it. Arms and chest and maybe back make more impact than calves, that's reality deal with it. See someone named Schwarzenegger for that hahah
Almost all medial and lateral head development there kid, greatly lacking in size. Those with any comprehension of anatomy don't require an explanation. ;) Not at all complete, not even tris.
Great gut development however, the original GH meister.
lmfao shall I continue?
contests are judged by ' show muscles ' this isn't the ironage ;)
Epic self-ownage.
ha ha ha ha the key word was at his best dummy and a transition shot proves NOTHING this is Dorian at the same contest showing why his side triceps shot is the most complete and among the best ever in the sport
You don't understand anatomy blockhead, because you keep posting pics from the wrong angle. To show the long head deficiency pics have to be from dead-on or from behind, the opposite of what you're posting. DUH!
Those are all pics of him by himself as usual. His triceps deficit is clear when standing beside others.
Those are all pics of him by himself as usual. His triceps and arm deficits are clear when standing beside others.
Those are all pics of him by himself as usual. His triceps and arm deficits are clear when standing beside others.
Greatest Olympia of time? and you said if you didn't hear it yourself they don't count , so toss those lists away ;)
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3109401
who is better Ronnie99/03 Dorian 93/95 - winner Yates
another list for you
in which dorian =and ronnie was included
greatest back of all time...
ronnie beat dorian...
... also another list greatest mr olympia of all time
ronnie was also chosen over yates...
process that information
I find it funny you would use a poll "you & the rest of your fellow goons know" that was rigged so yates gained close to 300 votes overnight for each year. This was already proven last year that team doughbuy cheated. LOL
Here is a screencap that was taken the same day............
destroyed on arms by lee lebrada
You keep posting off year shots that prove zero , I know anatomy as well , you don't know how to be honest or accurate out of fear
Is it just me or when nd posts pics like these they do nothing to support his argument?
Is it just me or when nd posts pics like these they do nothing to support his argument?
They're meant to be "good" pics but just aren't.
Yates has some of the ugliest lines in his triceps ever seen on stage
You can possibly claim they're better than say levrones in terms of size and shape
Is it just me or when nd posts pics like these they do nothing to support his argument?
They're meant to be "good" pics but just aren't.
Yates has some of the ugliest lines in his triceps ever seen on stage
You can possibly claim they're better than say levrones in terms of size and shape
yup.
why is this thread in existance again?
Is it just me or when nd posts pics like these they do nothing to support his argument?
They're meant to be "good" pics but just aren't.
Yates has some of the ugliest lines in his triceps ever seen on stage
You can possibly claim they're better than say levrones in terms of size and shape
The pose genius , the entire pose . who has the better side triceps pose? Dorian does.
Ah ah nd, ah ah.
Your claim is best tricep.
So stop running from one argument and claim to another.
Better triceps than Coleman absolutely better side triceps than Levrone absolutely any other questions?
I find it funny you would use a poll "you & the rest of your fellow goons know" that was rigged so yates gained close to 300 votes overnight for each year. This was already proven last year that team doughbuy cheated. LOL
Just read the comments in the thread.
Here is a screencap that was taken the same day............
dont know what pic your looking at but
levrone is murdering dorian in that pose....
blue murder
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LOL
Kevin has bigger shoulders, arms, traps, chest, legs and a smaller waist, better lines, better abs and obliques
common ND hahahahahahahaha
blockyness does not equal beating someone in a pose
The pose genius , the entire pose . who has the better side triceps pose? Dorian does. he's Kevin getting destroyed in the side triceps POSE
Exactly! Even if one were of the opinion that technically speaking, Levrone has superior triceps, what does it really matter if he is inferior in the actual side triceps pose? Is there a consolation prize for loosing the mandatory, but being considered to have the better triceps? Not that I am aware of.
levrone wins the pose... dorian legs look thicker
but dorian looks like a barrel
a keg to be more presise
levrone winns abs shoulders chest traps
dorian gets the nod for legs
shame about the barell
That's what these morons can't seem to comprehend , all rounds are physique rounds which means ALL of the criteria is assessed at once , size , density , dryness , balance , proportion , posing , presentation , etc and while some guys meet parts of this criteria better than Yates NONE of them satisfied it ALL better than him
Kevin has better triceps , classic horseshoe , great side head , etc calves are just as important in this pose as triceps , are so is density and size and balance and dryness , does Kevin have a better side triceps shot? NO. it's the same way Dorian would beat Ronnie in a front double biceps shot despite not having better biceps
Do you ever wake up and say, 'Know what, fuck it, I just don't care enough today'?
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LOL
Kevin has bigger shoulders, arms, traps, chest, legs and a smaller waist, better lines, better abs and obliques
common ND hahahahahahahaha
blockyness does not equal beating someone in a pose
ND can't be too off base with such an assertion, being that Yates won with straight firsts in that contest. His line of thinking, which I agree with myself, would seem to parallel that of the actual judges. You know, the ones that hand out the Sandow.
ND can't be too off base with such an assertion, being that Yates won with straight firsts in that contest. His line of thinking, which I agree with myself, would seem to parallel that of the actual judges. You know, the ones that hand out the Sandow.
Oh there been plenty of threads I never stepped foot in , I don't mind debating the sport it's what these boards are
Shit! There i was thinking the judges were never wrong
Congratulations that you were in line with the judges opinions
Whats your thoughts on how they judged ronnies victories i'm intrigued?
99% of these guys base who looks better in a pose by personal preference , what they THINK should win a pose , what looks better to them from an aesthetic point of view . I used to ...until I learned how contests are judged , they'll cherry-pick what parts they like what they think is more important , what doesn't matter to them and say " see he wins " that's not how it works
Classic example of pumpster's claim calves & forearms don't count ::) they ask for the calves in every single mandatory pose , in the criteria for the front double biceps pose they assess the forearms as well as the biceps , as well how proportionate one muscle is to the next , they assess who carries more muscular bulk , who is harder and drier who is the better technical poser , so while Ronnie & Levrone meet parts of this criteria better but when all things are judged they don't meet ALL of it better . that's how contests are judged and why Dorian dominated.
dont know what pic your looking at but
levrone is murdering dorian in that pose....
blue murder
I don't buy fixed contests
Like hell he is. Dorian was dry as granite. Kevin was large but smooth.
blockyness does not equal beating someone in a pose