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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: ASJChaotic on December 13, 2008, 03:31:46 PM
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if by natural you really mean on gear then he's certainly up there with the other natural liars.
i'd say he's on gh at least, perhaps whinny + clen, eca. maybe even t3, as he looks freaky in some bodyparts, while in others he looks underdeveloped. his conditioning is also too good for a natural.
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About as natural as a cock flavored lollypop.
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if by natural you really mean on gear then he's certainly up there with the other natural liars.
i'd say he's on gh at least, perhaps whinny + clen, eca. maybe even t3, as he looks freaky in some bodyparts, while in others he looks underdeveloped. his conditioning is also too good for a natural.
he looks natural, I believe him
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he looks natural
what ?
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enough of this BS! who is a real natural who has taken his body to the limits? is there anyone?
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what ?
lol
look at him in the bench press video, it's believable
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look at him in the bench press video, it's believable
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Looks believable as a natural. Impressive; the old-days look before heavy drugs. Takes real determination over periods of time, as shown here. Something i think might be in short supply here, thus the jump to conclusions about drugs. Sad; i expect that from joe public but not from guys who are supposed to know better.
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Looks believable as a natural. Impressive; the old-days look before heavy drugs. Takes real determination over periods of time, as shown here. Something i think might be in short supply here, thus the jump to conclusions about drugs. Sad; i expect that from joe public but not from guys who are supposed to know better.
exactly, my mentality is, if you don't think that is achievable with decades of hard work and commitment, then why are you even lifting weights
to these guys anything beyond a swimmer's physique is unattainable.
which is sad, because they limit their own potential with this mindset.
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Looks believable as a natural. Impressive; the old-days look before heavy drugs. Takes real determination over periods of time, as shown here. Something i think might be in short supply here, thus the jump to conclusions about drugs. Sad; i expect that from joe public but not from guys who are supposed to know better.
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Jeff Willet is not natural mate..
He has looked like that since the mid 90s.Have got pics of him in Pump magazine..
By old days do you mean the 50s?
He sure as hell looks better than anything that came out of the 50s,but thats to be expected,he is on modern drugs like gh,t3 etc etc
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Ronnie Coleman is a natural and look how big he got.
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Jeff Willet is not natural mate..
He has looked like that since the mid 90s.Have got pics of him in Pump magazine..
By old days do you mean the 50s?
He sure as hell looks better than anything that came out of the 50s,but thats to be expected,he is on modern drugs like gh,t3 etc etc
Neither you nor i know one way or the other. In any case, there are guys that look that way after years of dedication.
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No one knows if he's natural except him and his dealer.
I don't think he achieves his conditioning without something 'special' though.
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Most people can not conceive how good a natural can get because they see very few of them walking around. There's only a handful of guys that are so dedicated that have trained hard for 10 years straight, have consistenly eaten correctly, taken the proper supplements, and of course have good genetics as well. It's very rare. So if someone does all this, shows up looking good, no one believes they are natural. Most young guys train for a couple of years, and then hop on the juice. To this day, I still have people think I'm juiced. They don't realize I've been training consistently for almost 30 years straight.
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Most people can not conceive how good a natural can get because they see very few of them walking around. There's only a handful of guys that are so dedicated that have trained hard for 10 years straight, have consistenly eaten correctly, taken the proper supplements, and of course have good genetics as well. It's very rare.
Exactly. It's the same for me, training over 3 decades. Apply serious hard work and nutrition to decent genetics for that long and you'll get impressive results. Probably not realized by most here who might not have trained hard enough or long enough or both, but that's the truth. ;)
The only caveat is that there may be more naturals out there than thought, the problem is that most of getbig don't train hard enough long enough to realize it can be done and make the same assumptions about others. Basically they think like the general public.
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Looks natural to me.
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willet was a junkie and is a junkie to some degree to this day,,always hormonized never natural,,even more hormonized than lacour,,just the goals of his aimed at making money out of the natural scene because less competition and you dont have to have good response to hormones just average
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Lacour and Willet are both completely full of shit. Anyone who thinks otherwise is at the very least, mildly retarded.
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willet was a junkie and is a junkie to some degree to this day,,always hormonized never natural,,even more hormonized than lacour,,just the goals of his aimed at making money out of the natural scene because less competition and you dont have to have good response to hormones just average
God of Hormones tells it like it is....
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Most people can not conceive how good a natural can get because they see very few of them walking around. There's only a handful of guys that are so dedicated that have trained hard for 10 years straight, have consistenly eaten correctly, taken the proper supplements, and of course have good genetics as well. It's very rare. So if someone does all this, shows up looking good, no one believes they are natural. Most young guys train for a couple of years, and then hop on the juice. To this day, I still have people think I'm juiced. They don't realize I've been training consistently for almost 30 years straight.
What are your measurements?
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supplements are officialy a waste, im off protein power for two months now and still making progress and feel healthier, thats pathetic. protein is highly overrated. especially for the natural bodybuilder.
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What are your measurements?
Couldn't really tell you, except right now I'm 5'9" and about 198 in fairly hard condition. Here's 2 pics of me. One from when I was 23 years old, weighing about 175 and one from 3 weeks ago at age 46. I'm on no steroids, HGH, Pro-hormones, or any HRT. Not saying I look great or am in the league with Jeff Willet, but that even I have been accused of being juiced. I've just always taken my training seriously and have a very extensive knowledge of supplementation and nutrition.
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But Willet pounds down on a 50% diet of protein. That's bound to give you those types of results in the long-run.
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Most people can not conceive how good a natural can get because they see very few of them walking around. There's only a handful of guys that are so dedicated that have trained hard for 10 years straight, have consistenly eaten correctly, taken the proper supplements, and of course have good genetics as well. It's very rare. So if someone does all this, shows up looking good, no one believes they are natural. Most young guys train for a couple of years, and then hop on the juice. To this day, I still have people think I'm juiced. They don't realize I've been training consistently for almost 30 years straight.
There are plenty of guys out there that train and diet very seriously in both categories, meaning natural and drug users. You look good, but you are nowhere near the size and quality of muscle the Jeff and Skip are and it has nothing to do with genetics. Just because someone takes steroids does not mean that they do not take their training seriously and it doesn't take 10 years to be a top level natural physique. Bottom line is though, once your reach your natural limit in size you are fooling yourself if you think that you can get any bigger.
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There are plenty of guys out there that train and diet very seriously in both categories, meaning natural and drug users. You look good, but you are nowhere near the size and quality of muscle the Jeff and Skip are and it has nothing to do with genetics. Just because someone takes steroids does not mean that they do not take their training seriously and it doesn't take 10 years to be a top level natural physique. Bottom line is though, once your reach your natural limit in size you are fooling yourself if you think that you can get any bigger.
I agree with you and please note that I never have claimed I was in the league with top level naturals, only that many on his board severely limit themselves when it comes to their vision of what can be achieved naturally. There's thread going on now where most of the people on it claim this guy's body is impossible to achieve without juice.
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I agree with you and please note that I never have claimed I was in the league with top level naturals, only that many on his board severely limit themselves when it comes to their vision of what can be achieved naturally. There's thread going on now where most of the people on it claim this guy's body is impossible to achieve without juice.
Funny cause I just posted on that thread about this guy. He is juicing for sure. And just to clarify I was not putting you down not that you thought I was. You look very good for a natty.
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Funny cause I just posted on that thread about this guy. He is juicing for sure. And just to clarify I was not putting you down not that you thought I was. You look very good for a natty.
I think the guy is a juicer as well, although I have competition pics of me in my 30's where I have surpassed that, so I know that can be attained naturally. I respect your opinions because I know you work with a lot of top level guys and are very knowlegable.
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i always thought that keith bullock was the man when it came to being natural. he's a lifetime natural federation competitor and we cant buy pro hormones or even bronchitis, cough medicine and sinus meds here..
keith is on the right.
(http://www.inba.com.au/images/warrenkeith.jpg)
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i always thought that keith bullock was the man when it came to being natural. he's a lifetime natural federation competitor and we cant buy pro hormones or even bronchitis, cough medicine and sinus meds here..
keith is on the right.
(http://www.inba.com.au/images/warrenkeith.jpg)
HAHAHAHAHAHAH
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I think the guy is a juicer as well, although I have competition pics of me in my 30's where I have surpassed that, so I know that can be attained naturally. I respect your opinions because I know you work with a lot of top level guys and are very knowlegable.
Just wanted to add there is a difference between asking is this guy natural (the one pictured) and can one attained that amount of muscle mass without drugs. Hope that is clear for everyone.
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Just wanted to add there is a difference between asking is this guy natural (the one pictured) and can one attained that amount of muscle mass without drugs. Hope that is clear for everyone.
I agree,
So what is your opinion of Willet?
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Just wanted to add there is a difference between asking is this guy natural (the one pictured) and can one attained that amount of muscle mass without drugs. Hope that is clear for everyone.
Jim, do you think Willet is natural?
Not just AAS but GH ,T3 And amoung other goodies that can be used to acheive the look he sports,condition and fullness..I think he is far from natural my self..
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hahaha here we go.. the camel tool got told he looks like him (which he obviously doesn't) and now he's obsessing over it....
Jeff Will = what you will never be.
Hope this hurts.
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The greatest natural ever would have to be black ;)
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i always thought that keith bullock was the man when it came to being natural. he's a lifetime natural federation competitor and we cant buy pro hormones or even bronchitis, cough medicine and sinus meds here..
keith is on the right.
(http://www.inba.com.au/images/warrenkeith.jpg)
hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahaha
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Jim, do you think Willet is natural?
Not just AAS but GH ,T3 And amoung other goodies that can be used to acheive the look he sports,condition and fullness..I think he is far from natural my self..
IMO NO! I will also add this, in that video of his face looks just like someone who is "off" if you get what I mean.
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IMO NO! I will also add this, in that video of his face looks just like someone who is "off" if you get what I mean.
Roger that ;)
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who knows for sure if he uses or has ever used gear i used to think that any physique like willets was not natural but now i think there are some people (a small percentage) of guys that are blessed with fantastic genetics, either way he looks great
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MemberX (2 months ago) Show Hide +2 Marked as spam Reply | Spam people are going to bitch no matter what Jeff
if you're drug free and you look 100 times better than them "he has great genetics" or "he is secretly using steroids" they will come up with an excuse to protect their own self esteem, it's human nature
you're an inspiration, keep up the good work
I have my first contest in 4 weeks
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More impressive than most of ifbb pros.
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you're not anywhere near this guys level.. you have a good build but nothing out of the ordinary. so how do you relate to this guy using growth drugs?
Earlier in the thread I was making a point, that on this board, anyone with a reasonable amount of development is usually considered to be on a cycle, and that even when I have posted these pics in the past, I have been accused. Then when I was asked to give my measurements, I just posted the pic. Never said I was in the league with Jeff Willet or any other top level natural.
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as soon as I played the tape it was immediately apparent that he has an *androgen* voice.
You lose credibility with the "androgen voice" thing, he sounds fine. Maybe in a woman i could tell the difference, not here.
Most here on getbig haven't trained hard enough or long enough then assume that good development had to be from chemicals. When the truth is they're nowhere near their own potential because they didnt' make the effort. Willet's clearly training very hard, a higher level than most here will ever experience themselves.
The steroids assumptions are what i'd expect from the general public not guys who should know better but really don't.
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credibility with you means dick to me... that's an androgen voice.
totally unnatural and easy to spot. I bet that guy had a much higher pitched voice at one point.
LOL ok tough guy. I don't think you train hard by the way, i've seen your pics. You're evidentally envious of the guy and can't accept he trains much harder than you ever will.
You know squat, the voice is fine you're only projecting your own paranoia.
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Jeff Willet left something out.In 2000 Team Universe Jeff Willet was a light heavy weight and weighed around 198lbs, really soft and smooth, he got 10th place.Then a year later he came in at around 212lbs, and won the heavyweight class beating Skip Lacour.Then he came back in 2003, as a light heavyweight, and won the overall.I think Jeff Willet is a honest guy, but he left out the part were he did compete as a heavyweight in 2001.He said he always competed as a light heavyweight.How did his contest weight go from 198lbs (2000) , to 212 lbs (2002, then back to a light heavy weight (2003)? I could see if his weight was only 2-3lbs on stage, but we are talking 15 lbs on stage.From 198lbs- to 212lbs on stage in one year? Then back to 198lbs, a year later.I competed as a natural bodybuilder for 10 years, and my weight on stage never varied more then 2-4 lbs per year.To vary 15 lbs in a year in unheard of.I think Jeff WILLET IS A GREAT ATHLETE, AND A NICE GUY, BUT this mysterious 15lbs weigh gain on stage, then 15lb loss on stage weight is a little alarming.
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I've never seen this guy train... what does that have to do with using drugs?
and how did you know I was a tough guy? ::)
Then watch his other videos. If you don't realize there's a correlation between intense training and condition, you need to learn more.
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this guy has used heavy androgens at some point.
as soon as I played the tape it was immediately apparent that he has an *androgen* voice. I've been around a lot of gear users and lots of them get that uniquely distinct androgen voice..
plus he's a thin guy that carries way too much mass for his frame.
he's lying through his teeth. I'd say he's on a healthy dose of hgh and anabolics.
Androgen voice? This is the most stupidest post I ever read.
Do you even know what an androgen voice is? It correlates to female bodybuilders, you idiot not men! You cant use the word androgenic synonymous to men when describing a man who acts like a man.
Here is a definition for you of what "androgenic means. Let me enlighten you:
Pertaining to the development of male characteristics, including body hair, the genital organs and muscle mass. "Androgenic" is the adjective form of the noun "androgen," a word referring to any of the male hormones, including testosterone and androsterone.
You saying that Jeff Willet has an "androgenic" voice is an oxymoron! Youre an idiot!
Jeff Willet has a normal voice.
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only naturals that look good are very short, so they still look nice and chunky,,,,,,,,, anyone of normal hight looks stringy once theyve dieted down to contest condition....... you can build a great physique naturaly, but youl never have the combination of size and condition that you see in us drug abusers..and its a dead giveaway...
if u wanna see a natural physique look back to pre 1950's, those guys had great builds, but to jump from what they had to what your seeing today is rediculous.. they trained just as hard back then, maybe the diet wasnt 100%, but your talking men with elite level gentetics, the likes of clancy ross and john grimmeck
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you can build a great physique naturaly, but youl never have the combination of size and condition that you see in us drug abusers..and its a dead giveaway...
I love the experts on here, who has seen every example in the BB population and knows this beyond a shadow of a doubt. ::)
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heavy androgens = deep raspy voice... in some people.
pull up any definition of anything you like... heavy androgen use causes a deeper voice in (some)men and women who use them... it changes them.
Self-ownage at it's best, Jeff's voice isn't deep or raspy.
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heavy androgens = deep raspy voice... in some people.
pull up any definition of anything you like... heavy androgen use causes a deeper voice in (some)men and women who use them... it changes them.
I've seen it happen and I officially name it *androgen voice*
Are you that stupid? Jeff Willet doesnt have a "raspy" voice. Seems like you are still unsure what the hell youre trying to say
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You still seem to be conflicted of what androgenic seems to mean. LOL
You use androgenic for female bodybuilders that sound like men or grow facial hair or a penis.
You dont use "androgenic" for men.
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I love the experts on here, who has seen every example in the BB population and knows this beyond a shadow of a doubt. ::)
prove me wrong then expert!.......... ive yet to see a good natty above 5'6
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prove me wrong then expert!.......... ive yet to see a good natty above 5'6
Post your pic tough guy!!
I guarantee you that you dont knwo what the hell youre talking about and that youre nothing but a skinny twerp or a fat lazy bum whop looks like he never trained a day in his life LOL
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prove me wrong then expert!.......... ive yet to see a good natty above 5'6
The onus is on you genius, you're the one quickly drawing conclusions about everyone. ::) Most likely you don't train hard and want to feel better about the results or lack thereof. ;)
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"James001" once again trying to come off like he knows it all, yet once again he fails miserably, good posts, tool. ::)
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I know you live with your mommy and don't lift weights. why do you hang on a bodybuilding board? all you do is try to put people down.
do you love muscle?
Haha, ok Mr. "androgen voice." ::)
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ok.. now I gotcha. well what do you call the voice change in a guy who uses heavy androgens?
it effects some guys just like women. that's why I named it.. it doesn't seam to have a name. androgen voice is fine.
You call it de-masculinization or feminization.
Jeff Willet doesnt have a femininine or raspy voice.
You are contradicting yourself!
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James, get off this board and go find all your supposed supermodel girlfriends!! LOL
Yeah, I saw your myspace.
My wife told me you tried to add her the other week!
Youre such a loser, trying to find all these women strangers to add to your myspace to make it look like you have all these friends and trying to hook up with peoples' wives or girlfriends.
Youre a tool!
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you can call it whatever you like :-*
"EwaBeachBoy" just owned you, and this is all you can muster up? :-\
"James001" the whiner gets brutally owned once again, you gonna cry to the mods again this time, little bitch? ::)
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Markus Ruhl.
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Hey James...for a guy that supposedly dates "supermodel" you sure spend a lot of time on this board.
Go tend to your kids, we see whats important LOL
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Jeff Willet left something out.In 2000 Team Universe Jeff Willet was a light heavy weight and weighed around 198lbs, really soft and smooth, he got 10th place.Then a year later he came in at around 212lbs, and won the heavyweight class beating Skip Lacour.Then he came back in 2003, as a light heavyweight, and won the overall.I think Jeff Willet is a honest guy, but he left out the part were he did compete as a heavyweight in 2001.He said he always competed as a light heavyweight.How did his contest weight go from 198lbs (2000) , to 212 lbs (2002, then back to a light heavy weight (2003)? I could see if his weight was only 2-3lbs on stage, but we are talking 15 lbs on stage.From 198lbs- to 212lbs on stage in one year? Then back to 198lbs, a year later.I competed as a natural bodybuilder for 10 years, and my weight on stage never varied more then 2-4 lbs per year.To vary 15 lbs in a year in unheard of.I think Jeff WILLET IS A GREAT ATHLETE, AND A NICE GUY, BUT this mysterious 15lbs weigh gain on stage, then 15lb loss on stage weight is a little alarming.
I'LL ADD TO THAT. ONE OF THOSE YRS I FORGET HE PLACED 3ERD IN THE USA'S RIPPED TO THE BONE AS LIGHTHEAVY TOO.
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:'( all the time.. will you ever let those tears dry up jeffro?
now, what about this love of muscle you seem to have?
does your mother know that you use her computer to lust after large muscular men?
are you ashamed of your lust? you always run away from the issue.
Another zinger by "james001," keep up the good work. ::)
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tell your wife I said hi...
James, for one, my wife siad that you are a loser. Two, youre balding and you arent that good looking (yet you date all these supermodels LOL). She said that you are one desperate man trying to get all these female friends off myspace trying to make it appear that your some ladies man but youre not LOL
Youre a LOSER!!
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Are you guys f*cking ignorant, naive or just plain stupid?
You tell me with todays "training principles" that natural bodybuilders can look better than the worlds best juiced bodybuilders of the 70's and 80's? Are you f*cking serious?
Obviously these guys take old school cycles and know how to beat tests. They don't take slin and take quality gear so they don't get bloated and crazy. Anyone who believes this clown is natty needs to quit smoking his c*ck and wake up.
Oh, let me guess...nitro tech is better than chicken breasts, eggs and steaks? OMG, you f*cking natural band wagon qu*ers kill me! Wake up this is 2008, come out of the back woods in Alabama and come to the real world.
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jeffro.. why do you keep avoiding my questions? you follow me around this board like a dog.. its cute but just admit that you like dick.
do large muscular men turn you on jeffro?
James, go out and find some bag lady so you can urinate in her mouth you sick fuck LOL!!
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Are you guys f*cking ignorant, naive or just plain stupid?
You tell me with todays "training principles" that natural bodybuilders can look better than the worlds best juiced bodybuilders of the 70's and 80's? Are you f*cking serious?
Obviously these guys take old school cycles and know how to beat tests. They don't take slin and take quality gear so they don't get bloated and crazy. Anyone who believes this clown is natty needs to quit smoking his c*ck and wake up.
Oh, let me guess...nitro tech is better than chicken breasts, eggs and steaks? OMG, you f*cking natural band wagon qu*ers kill me! Wake up this is 2008, come out of the back woods in Alabama and come to the real world.
Post a pic of your formidable physique that proves your decades of gruelling training naturally.. ::)
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James, for one, my wife siad that you are a loser. Two, youre balding and you arent that good looking (yet you date all these supermodels LOL). She said that you are one desperate man trying to get all these female friends off myspace trying to make it appear that your some ladies man but youre not LOL
Youre a LOSER!!
Goddamn, brutal smackdown of the balding crackhead artist known as "james001." :o
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only naturals that look good are very short, so they still look nice and chunky,,,,,,,,, anyone of normal hight looks stringy once theyve dieted down to contest condition....... you can build a great physique naturaly, but youl never have the combination of size and condition that you see in us drug abusers..and its a dead giveaway...
if u wanna see a natural physique look back to pre 1950's, those guys had great builds, but to jump from what they had to what your seeing today is rediculous.. they trained just as hard back then, maybe the diet wasnt 100%, but your talking men with elite level gentetics, the likes of clancy ross and john grimmeck
ha finaly. smartest comment i ve seen on shitbig in a while...
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James, for one, my wife siad that you are a loser. Two, youre balding and you arent that good looking (yet you date all these supermodels LOL). She said that you are one desperate man trying to get all these female friends off myspace trying to make it appear that your some ladies man but youre not LOL
Youre a LOSER!!
I'm getting sick of this sprinkled donkey shit named James001, he claims to piss in supermodel's mouths and he is one of the ugliest people I have seen, with a shitty disgusting body, and he is on steroids, wow.
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balding crackhead artist known as "james001." :o
sprinkled donkey shit named James001, he claims to piss in supermodel's mouths and he is one of the ugliest people I have seen, with a shitty disgusting body
LOL he's a pisser.
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your wife seems to know who I am.. you have obviously have spent a bit of time on my myspace page.
I have no clue who either of you are.
its making sense now... your hostility. I suggest you have me paint your wife - nude.
but she has to be *acceptable*.. do you know what I mean?
fucking queer, we all know the only thing you paint is naked men.
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Post a pic of your formidable physique that proves your decades of gruelling training naturally.. ::)
Answer my question first! Why can naturals look better than juiced to the gills world class athletes of the 70's, 80's, 90's and even most of the top amatuer NPC guys today? Can you answer that simple question? F*ck no you can't! Nobody can! Just because someone passes a test doesn't mean they are natural.
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Goddamn, brutal smackdown of the balding crackhead artist known as "james001." :o
Not only that Jeffro...James is one sick puppy:
I used to live with a girl who drank my urine on a regular basis. she had no problems.
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Answer my question first! Why can naturals look better than juiced to the gills world class athletes of the 70's, 80's, 90's and even most of the top amatuer NPC guys today? Can you answer that simple question? F*ck no you can't! Nobody can! Just because someone passes a test doesn't mean they are natural.
It's obvious to some that the population in general gets slightly bigger and taller over time, thanks to generally better nutrition, medicine, lifestyle changes and other advances in society. You didn't know that? ???
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It's obvious to some that the population in general gets slightly bigger and taller over time, thanks to generally better nutrition, medicine, lifestyle changes and other advances in society. You didn't know that? ???
I'm with you, you answered my question. ;)
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Hey Jeff, welcome to these crazy boards man. Don't get offended with all the smack talk, take it as a compliment. You know in your heart what it takes to be a true natural champion.
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Hey Jeff, welcome to these crazy boards man. Don't get offended with all the smack talk, take it as a compliment. You know in your heart what it takes to be a true natural champion.
what? Jeff Willet doesn't post on here, does he? ???
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Hey Jeff, welcome to these crazy boards man. Don't get offended with all the smack talk, take it as a compliment. You know in your heart what it takes to be a true natural champion.
huh?
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what a glass of donkey piss this James001 is, he takes steroids and looks like shit compared to anybody
who has been working out for 6 months, bashes Jeff Willet who looks a billion times better, and can't accept the fact that he is a lying douche who everybody hates.
Haha, exactly, this clown is juiced to the gills and still looks like shit warmed over, plus he's losing his hair from it to boot. :-\
Give it up "james001," your bullshit is not going unnoticed anymore, the gig is up, tool.
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Hey Jeff, welcome to these crazy boards man. Don't get offended with all the smack talk, take it as a compliment. You know in your heart what drugs it takes to be a true natural champion like me.
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Thank you...another juiced to the gills "natural" trying to post to add validity to another "natural" bodybuilder to make us think there is such a thing...ohhh brother. One day these clowns will answer the truth, not on getbig.com but somewhere somehow. I would hate to have that deamon in my head of being a big f*cking liar!
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I can vouch for jeff, he is a true-lifetime-natural-bodybuilder.
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Yeah true lifetime I guess everybody sleeps with this guy too... ::)
Lets look at the comparison of this "natural" to a juiced to the gills Mr. Olympia!
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So here we have it. With glutamine, creatine, whey protein and H.I.T principals a natural guy can blow away a guy juiced to the gills that was a Mr. Olympia who obviously had no idea on how to train or eat! WTF? Quit smoking this Jeff Willets sausage you homo's!
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Yeah true lifetime I guess everybody sleeps with this guy too... ::)
Lets look at the comparison of this "natural" to a juiced to the gills Mr. Olympia!
goes to show you that a natural bodybuilder can destroy a Mr. Olympia
stop hating on Jeff Willet, I have met him twice and talked with him
and believe he is 100% natural
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Samir was 25 years ago, and not even the best guy on stage.
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I love how all you guys are juiced to the gills and still not in a million years would look like Jeff
then you feel the need to take out your frustration on him, jealousy is a bitch.
Face it, he is a billion times better than you without drugs.
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juiced to the gills? statements like this is why you're just silly. I've been pretty broke most of the time as an artist.. I'd buy paint, food.. or pay the power bill before I'd buy steroids.
I'll say steroids are wonderful... and I'll do more of them.
you should, you look like an AIDS victim, it can help you.
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do you think I'm wasting away?
I'm saying that you claim to be on steroids yet you look like you don't even lift, a blood test couldn't hurt.
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Samir was 25 years ago, and not even the best guy on stage.
wow! In another 25 years we'll have teenagers running around looking like Ronnie and Jay! I gotcha, "time" is what did it. Just plain ole' time.
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Yeah true lifetime I guess everybody sleeps with this guy too... ::)
Lets look at the comparison of this "natural" to a juiced to the gills Mr. Olympia!
perfect comparison and really highlights the pathetic lies that are spewed every week from these so called naturals.
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prove me wrong then expert!.......... ive yet to see a good natty above 5'6
What (in your opinion) is a "good natty"?
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Hey Jeff, welcome to these crazy boards man. Don't get offended with all the smack talk, take it as a compliment. You know in your heart what it takes to be a true natural champion.
Ha, ha. I love it. He is such a liar/clueless/brain-fried or something. He does this on every board I've seen him on.
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Jeff Willet left something out.In 2000 Team Universe Jeff Willet was a light heavy weight and weighed around 198lbs, really soft and smooth, he got 10th place.Then a year later he came in at around 212lbs, and won the heavyweight class beating Skip Lacour.Then he came back in 2003, as a light heavyweight, and won the overall.I think Jeff Willet is a honest guy, but he left out the part were he did compete as a heavyweight in 2001.He said he always competed as a light heavyweight.How did his contest weight go from 198lbs (2000) , to 212 lbs (2002, then back to a light heavy weight (2003)? I could see if his weight was only 2-3lbs on stage, but we are talking 15 lbs on stage.From 198lbs- to 212lbs on stage in one year? Then back to 198lbs, a year later.I competed as a natural bodybuilder for 10 years, and my weight on stage never varied more then 2-4 lbs per year.To vary 15 lbs in a year in unheard of.I think Jeff WILLET IS A GREAT ATHLETE, AND A NICE GUY, BUT this mysterious 15lbs weigh gain on stage, then 15lb loss on stage weight is a little alarming.
This is funny considering the BS you spewed about your friend, the Twizzler boy
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I want to believe this guy. What I've learned during my competitive years (natural for life, but never preaching) is that there are just many genetic freaks around. And if someone has top genetics AND is fully committed he/she can be an extremely good natural bodybuilder.
When looking at Jeff, I notice that he looks very normal in clothes, but starts to shine when he's on stage.
I myself have average genetics only, but have been training (25 years) and dieting seriously (10 years) for a long time. Look at my arms: they measure less than 17'', yet on contest day they look ok. Now imagine a freak that can bring up EVERY muscle perfectly balanced, chiseled...
OPEN YOUR MIND, or you will only limit yourself to what you can achieve.
-peace
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I want to believe this guy. What I've learned during my competitive years (natural for life, but never preaching) is that there are just many genetic freaks around. And if someone has top genetics AND is fully committed he/she can be an extremely good natural bodybuilder.
When looking at Jeff, I notice that he looks very normal in clothes, but starts to shine when he's on stage.
I myself have average genetics only, but have been training (25 years) and dieting seriously (10 years) for a long time. Look at my arms: they measure less than 17'', yet on contest day they look ok. Now imagine a freak that can bring up EVERY muscle perfectly balanced, chiseled...
OPEN YOUR MIND, or you will only limit yourself to what you can achieve.
-peace
doesn't it piss you off when natural lie about being natural ?
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doesn't it piss you off when natural lie about being natural ?
no. only if drug users lie about being natural.
but actually it's not really important enough to care about if other people use or not. you have to care about your own health and longevity. if, on contest day, someone else is better, then be it - it's not the end of the world. with every contest prep you improve your muscle quality, learn more about your body etc.
if you do it for health, it's the greatest sport on earth.
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not only willet never been true natural ....but he also used narcotics,,the fella woudlnt hold 160lb naturally in a good wet day ,,he is one of the people that actually deserve everything bad that happened to him and ofcourse will ...since he is still amongst us even if for not so long
Why do you have to throw that crap in too...using narcotics? No he doesn't. Trying to destroy him with the steroids comments isn't good enough for you, loser?
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Why do you have to throw that crap in too...using narcotics? No he doesn't. Trying to destroy him with the steroids comments isn't good enough for you, loser?
BECAUSE HE DID!
WEED,,COCAINE,,CRYSTAL METH
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I love how all you guys are juiced to the gills and still not in a million years would look like Jeff
then you feel the need to take out your frustration on him, jealousy is a bitch.
Face it, he is a billion times better than you without drugs.
And you're still a homo! ;D
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if you do it for health, it's the greatest sport on earth.
Sport. lol.
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BECAUSE HE DID!
WEED,,COCAINE,,CRYSTAL METH
tell us, how the fuck do you know?
your crystal ball tells you all these things? ::)
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BECAUSE HE DID!
WEED,,COCAINE,,CRYSTAL METH
And you know this how? You ship your drugs to little towns in Michigan too?
You are a loser.
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"Im unique because Im a lifetime natural bodybuilder"
How many lies can you spot in that sentence?
WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Bump :)
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Looks Gay to me. ;D