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Title: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Moosejay on December 21, 2008, 06:18:46 AM
this is not the best pic...the wound is much larger now, after 7 surgeries.

I am appealing to anyone with knowlesge or experience for helpful information you may have

Thanks

Mike
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: bigdumbbell on December 21, 2008, 06:21:18 AM
this is not the best pic...the wound is much larger now, after 7 surgeries.

I am appealing to anyone with knowlesge or experience for helpful information you may have

Thanks

Mike
and how recent is this "wound"?
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Moosejay on December 21, 2008, 06:23:55 AM
and how recent is this "wound"?

over one year now, my friend.

I fell on ice and sffered injurioes that required surgery.

The wrist intervention has unfolded into the situation where the incisional site will not close.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Permabulker on December 21, 2008, 06:25:09 AM
Is that a spider bite?




Onlyme is an expert in this area..
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: spinnis on December 21, 2008, 06:25:22 AM
maby you need new skin :)
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: bigdumbbell on December 21, 2008, 06:25:38 AM
over one year now, my friend.

I fell on ice and sffered injurioes that required surgery.

The wrist intervention has unfolded into the situation where the incisional site will not close.
u live near some great medical colleges, what did they call it?
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: kiwiol on December 21, 2008, 06:25:48 AM
this is not the best pic...the wound is much larger now, after 7 surgeries.

I am appealing to anyone with knowlesge or experience for helpful information you may have

Thanks

Mike

Looks nasty. How did you get it? Some kind of abscess?
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: ironneck on December 21, 2008, 06:26:55 AM
girls don't like wounds
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: bigdumbbell on December 21, 2008, 06:28:46 AM
Looks nasty. How did you get it? Some kind of abscess?
i'd like to see what it looks like now along with the other wounds on your body.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: 240 is Back on December 21, 2008, 06:29:38 AM
ouch
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 21, 2008, 06:41:44 AM
I personally would try a combo of anabolic and nutritional wound healing strategies. I'm not a doc and don't know your full health profile so I couldn't recommend any of it, but if I had a wound that wouldn't heal I would probably go ahead and experiment on myself after making sure it most likely wouldn't worsen anything.

u live near some great medical colleges, what did they call it?

Yeah, what do they call that?
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: bigdumbbell on December 21, 2008, 06:44:03 AM
this is the one he's open about.  there should be more.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: bigmc on December 21, 2008, 06:45:44 AM
try staying off the cock for a month moose
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Army of One on December 21, 2008, 06:46:47 AM
try staying off the cock for a month moose

Moose could try this therapy, it may not have worked the 235395 times he tried it but its always worth another go.

(http://i34.tinypic.com/vrag42.gif)
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: bigdumbbell on December 21, 2008, 06:48:41 AM
Moose could try this therapy, it may not have worked the 235395 times he tried it but its always worth another go.

(http://i34.tinypic.com/vrag42.gif)
LOL   where on earth did you find that?  LOL
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Mars on December 21, 2008, 06:53:45 AM
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: kiwiol on December 21, 2008, 06:56:35 AM
Moose could try this therapy, it may not have worked the 235395 times he tried it but its always worth another go.

(http://i34.tinypic.com/vrag42.gif)

LMAO!
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: bigdumbbell on December 21, 2008, 06:58:36 AM
Moose could try this therapy, it may not have worked the 235395 times he tried it but its always worth another go.

(http://i34.tinypic.com/vrag42.gif)
what makes me laugh is the perfection and seriousness of the operator   hahah
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Mars on December 21, 2008, 07:00:28 AM
(http://i41.tinypic.com/255i4hh.jpg)
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Drama Queen on December 21, 2008, 07:28:42 AM
Moose could try this therapy, it may not have worked the 235395 times he tried it but its always worth another go.

(http://i34.tinypic.com/vrag42.gif)
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Permabulker on December 21, 2008, 07:40:18 AM
Moose could try this therapy, it may not have worked the 235395 times he tried it but its always worth another go.

(http://i34.tinypic.com/vrag42.gif)

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHH

WTF MAN! 
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: _bruce_ on December 21, 2008, 07:48:34 AM
Get well soon Moose
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: dr.chimps on December 21, 2008, 07:56:39 AM
Looks nasty, Moose. Tried any of those really strong staph stuff, or (last resort) vancomycin?
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: J Grey on December 21, 2008, 07:57:56 AM
Moose-Gay
how about you go to hell and burn yourself?
ya fag
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: MAXX on December 21, 2008, 07:59:00 AM
make sure you're getting in all the nutrition vitamines, minerals.

also try bcaa, eaa and glutamine.

anti inflammatory medecine. and maybe steroids could help to like Van_bilderass said.

on a sidenote. do you have aids?  :-X
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: J Grey on December 21, 2008, 08:01:07 AM
make sure you're getting in all the nutrition vitamines, minerals.

Also try bcaa, eaa and glutamine.

Anti inflamatory medecine. And maybe steroids could help to like Van_bilderass said.

some male sperm with help him "heal" also, we all know he gets plenty of that. 8)
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: laurion on December 21, 2008, 08:03:11 AM
Moose could try this therapy, it may not have worked the 235395 times he tried it but its always worth another go.

(http://i34.tinypic.com/vrag42.gif)

LMAO WTF
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: G o a t b o y on December 21, 2008, 08:29:44 AM
Is that a spider bite?




Onlyme is an expert in this area..


I was gonna say. . .   that looks a lot like onlyme's brown recluse bite.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: CMBurns on December 21, 2008, 08:51:49 AM
have they tried a wound vac?  maybe an apligraf of split thickness graft.   
some other topicals like prisma or regranex may help
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 21, 2008, 08:52:33 AM
make sure you're getting in all the nutrition vitamines, minerals.

also try bcaa, eaa and glutamine.

anti inflammatory medecine. and maybe steroids could help to like Van_bilderass said.

on a sidenote. do you have aids?  :-X

Surplus calories, Arginine, Antioxidants, Steroids, Insulin, GH etc. All these have been shown to improve wound healing.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: OneMoreRep on December 21, 2008, 09:11:48 AM
Moose,

A few things here...

Have your doctor run a CBC and culture the site to see how your White count is doing and also what strand might be causing the problem at the wound, you might have an infection going on there (Bacterial at that) that might be in need of treatment by something systemic like Vanco or Cipro.  If the culture comes back positive, along with your White count (Neutrophils) being high, then most likely you have a bacterial infection that, like I said before, will need a broad spectrum antibiotic, followed by maybe a topical antibiotic cream.  The odds of it being viral are pretty slim, especially with wounds at the superficial layer of skin, but if the white count comes back high(Lymphocyte) then it probably is viral, I doubt it though. 

If that option helps the wound reduce in inflammation, then the next step will be to just have your doctor stitch or staple the wound together.  The wound itself doesn't look to be too deep, so healing by secondary intention (Allowing it to stay open and the granulation tissue to form) can still be an option.

If they have tried such measures but to no avail, let me know and I will give you some other suggestions..

"1"
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: The Luke on December 21, 2008, 09:16:49 AM
Moosejay,


Good to have you back on the site... you've been missed.

Regarding the non-healing wound: it sounds like an MDR (Multi-Drug Resistant) bacterial infection, and the problem with those is that surgeons only want to excise the tissue. They cut first, treat later... when sometimes the slower treatment option is more viable.

But there are other options.

-Talk to your doctor (or a consultant) about bacteriaphage therapy.
A sample of the MDR bacteria (your infection) is grown in a lab and the naturally occurring phage viruses which prey upon the particular MDR bacteria are then isolated and multiplied. Because bacterial phage evolve alongside the bacterial colonies upon which they feed there is never any resistance, even if you personally don't believe in evolution the phage don't know that. In 50 years we can expect broad-spectrum phage therapy to replace antibiotics... unfortunately, at the moment it's still expensive.

-Leech or maggot therapy:
Nothing cleans a wound like natures own flesh eaters.

-Mold therapy:
Some aggressive molds and fungi have shown promise in combating virulent and resistant infections. Again, it's experimental and expensive... but hey, what have you got to lose?

-Colloidal silver treatment:
Well born babies weren't given sterling silver spoons to suck on for no reason... colloidal (nano-sized particulates) silver has a very potent anti-microbial effect, but as a relatively low-toxicity inert metal the human body can tolerate much higher quantities than bacteria can. Unfortunately large quantities of silver can lodge in the skin giving an ashen look to the complexion... so go easy on the dosage.


That's all I can think of off the top of my head (Lactoferrin protein treatment still isn't available to the public), hope this little bit of info helps.


One other thing I would recommend... and I'm hoping this isn't taken the wrong way, but as a homosexual man who has used intravenous steroids, and in light of your continuing history of health problems (nerve infections etc etc), perhaps you should consider a HIV test?

No offense intended. Just being pragmatic.


The Luke
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: 250Ben250 on December 21, 2008, 09:17:42 AM
Moose

You need to find a wound care and hyperbaric medicine center. Search for one around you, they're typically internal departments associated with a hospital. Or search google for a Wound Care physician, they usually have their own practice and work within one of these centers too.

You may need to do have some hyperbaric treatments, its hard to tell how big it really is from the pictures. It could take anywhere from 10-20 weeks to fully heal.  
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Grenade on December 21, 2008, 09:19:01 AM
Holy shit Moose, hope you get better soon.
I had a similar type cut maybe 20 years ago which would not heal up. Eventually I covered it with a plaster and didn't look at it for 2 weeks. When I removed the plaster it was well on the road to recovery. I think that continually looking at it and worrying about it makes it worse.
Don't give it any attention and it will shrink.






i thought you croaked iron brother in arms, good to see your alright
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Grenade on December 21, 2008, 09:26:08 AM
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Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: lm on December 21, 2008, 09:28:41 AM
fill the area with silverdine cream and wrap it with a gauze. repeat after showers, etc.

You will probably need a prescription for silverdine and its expensive, but it's the best.

if in 2 weeks you don't see clear progress, you will need more aggressive treatment to stimulate healing.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: OneMoreRep on December 21, 2008, 09:38:36 AM
Moosejay,

Regarding the non-healing wound: it sounds like an MDR (Multi-Drug Resistant) bacterial infection, and the problem with those is that surgeons only want to excise the tissue. They cut first, treat later... when sometimes the slower treatment option is more viable.

-Colloidal silver treatment:
Well born babies weren't given sterling silver spoons to suck on for no reason... colloidal (nano-sized particulates) silver has a very potent anti-microbial effect, but as a relatively low-toxicity inert metal the human body can tolerate much higher quantities than bacteria can. Unfortunately large quantities of silver can lodge in the skin giving an ashen look to the complexion... so go easy on the dosage.


That's all I can think of off the top of my head (Lactoferrin protein treatment still isn't available to the public), hope this little bit of info helps.


One other thing I would recommend... and I'm hoping this isn't taken the wrong way, but as a homosexual man who has used intravenous steroids, and in light of your continuing history of health problems (nerve infections etc etc), perhaps you should consider a HIV test?

No offense intended. Just being pragmatic.

The Luke

I think if it were an MDR, they would have caught it already.  Wounds infected by strands like MRSA tend to get treat STAT with heavy duty Antibiotics at the hospital, the type that most people couldn't afford like Zyvox.  I can't see them letting this poor human being walk out of there while having an MDR, negligence would be at play.

The colloidal silver treatment is a good idea, but they still need to identify the agent responsible for the wound's inability to heal.

The STD check would be a good idea, but only in the late stages of AIDS would he suffer from shit that bad.

"1"...MD
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on December 21, 2008, 09:48:29 AM
yeah, there are MD's who specialize in wound care. I'm assume that you've been to one. Are you experiencing any other ailments? fever, lethargy? if so then it could be a immune problem, lupus, hiv, etc.

My advice: DONT go to the doctor, let us  help you out. We're all highly qualified. Shit, i got the first 2 seasons of Squad 51 on DVD just last week.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Nordic Beast on December 21, 2008, 09:58:40 AM
Have you tried Maggot therapy to try and help heal the wound-----I know that is very succesful in dealing with wounds that will not heal on their own.

worth a shot
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: jon cole on December 21, 2008, 09:59:42 AM
aas in wrist...why???
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: 240 is Back on December 21, 2008, 10:01:27 AM
I can't believe we've gone two pages and no one has mentioned the benefits of urine therapy

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Title: URINE WILL HEAL YOUR WOUND MOOSEJAY
Post by: Soundness on December 21, 2008, 10:09:11 AM
this is not the best pic...the wound is much larger now, after 7 surgeries.

I am appealing to anyone with knowlesge or experience for helpful information you may have

Thanks

Mike
If you apply Urine on it regularly, it will heal surprisingly quickly.

Urine is known to heal skin wounds such as this...

THE APPLICATION OF CARBAMIDE (UREA) THERAPY IN WOUND HEALING
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1391326

Full article here:
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1391326&blobtype=pdf

Holder, H.G., and MacKay, E.M. (1939).  Ann. Surg., 110, 94.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: bodybuildermdpitt on December 21, 2008, 10:26:03 AM
Wound healing has two problems, nutrition and vascular access. From the look of your wound it looks inflamed, I am assuming that it is probably infected. If you are having any fevers, you need to go to an ED, and probably get admitted for IV antibiotics, however, if it is not is not infected, you need to go see a plastic surgeon. Regardless, go to Yale's ED, get the wound cultured and wrapped, and get referred to a plastic surgeon. Depending on how deep the wound is, you may even need a flap reconstruction. But you need to see someone asap. On a side note, these type of things will continue to happen in American health care, if we don't start paying PCPs more.


Title: Re: URINE WILL HEAL YOUR WOUND MOOSEJAY
Post by: J Grey on December 21, 2008, 10:26:16 AM
If you apply Urine on it regularly, it will heal surprisingly quickly.

Just give it a shot, what have you got to lose?
Urine is known to heal skin wounds such as this...


shut the fuck up you stupid skinny twink.  I'm getting sick of you and your piss drinking ways.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: J Grey on December 21, 2008, 10:34:32 AM
If you apply Urine on it regularly, it will heal surprisingly quickly.

Urine is known to heal skin wounds such as this...

THE APPLICATION OF CARBAMIDE (UREA) THERAPY IN WOUND HEALING
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1391326

Full article here:
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1391326&blobtype=pdf

Holder, H.G., and MacKay, E.M. (1939).  Ann. Surg., 110, 94.


I hope you break your arms and that we will not have to hear your faggotry  here ever again.
Title: GHEY J HAS NO FAITH IN GOD
Post by: Soundness on December 21, 2008, 10:40:26 AM

I hope you break your arms and that we will not have to hear your faggotry  here ever again.
Ghey J,

You may find these quotes interesting you bible-thumping queer:

"Drink water from your own cistern, flowing water from your own well." (The Book of Proverbs 5:15)

"But Rabshakeh said, Hath my master sent me to thy master and to thee to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men that sit upon the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?" (Isaiah 36:12) (See also 2 Kings 18:27)

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cistern: a sac or cavity containing natural body fluid.  ;)
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: no one on December 21, 2008, 10:42:08 AM
it is going to spread and you are going to lose your arm.

don't blame me for saying this, blame god for punishing you for your sexual deviance.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Army of One on December 21, 2008, 10:43:03 AM
This beautfiul tribute needs to be posted again, look at the way he adoringly stares at his nephew and holds hands with aaron baker

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/moosegay/video/x6yqcz_moosegay_lifestyle
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: J Grey on December 21, 2008, 10:43:12 AM
J Ghey,

You may find these quotes interesting you bible-thumping queer:

"Drink water from your own cistern, flowing water from your own well." (The Book of Proverbs 5:15)

"But Rabshakeh said, Hath my master sent me to thy master and to thee to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men that sit upon the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?" (Isaiah 36:12) (See also 2 Kings 18:27)

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cistern: a sac or cavity containing natural body fluid.  ;)

you may find this helpful


go fuck yourself, you skinny, piss drinking faggot
Title: GHEY J HAS NO FAITH IN GOD
Post by: Soundness on December 21, 2008, 10:44:36 AM
you may find this helpful


go fuck yourself, you skinny, piss drinking faggot
You're the one pounding away at the bible.  ::) Jackass.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: no one on December 21, 2008, 10:48:34 AM
This beautfiul tribute needs to be posted again, look at the way he adoringly stares at his nephew and holds hands with aaron baker

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/moosegay/video/x6yqcz_moosegay_lifestyle

ahahahahahaha

holy shit!

who is responsible for this?

very well done, sir.
Title: Re: GHEY J HAS NO FAITH IN GOD
Post by: J Grey on December 21, 2008, 10:49:44 AM
You're the one pounding away at the bible.  ::) Jackass.

You're the one pounding away at the piss.  ::) Faggot.
Title: Re: GHEY J HAS NO FAITH IN GOD
Post by: Soundness on December 21, 2008, 10:52:00 AM
You're the one pounding away at the piss.  ::) Faggot.
HEY MORON, YOUR OWN CHERISHED BOOK OF PROVERBS INSTRUCTS YOU TO DRINK YOUR OWN URINE.

YOU, being the bible-pounding queer you are, have absolutely no place to speak against it.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Grenade on December 21, 2008, 10:52:23 AM
This beautfiul tribute needs to be posted again, look at the way he adoringly stares at his nephew and holds hands with aaron baker

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/moosegay/video/x6yqcz_moosegay_lifestyle

 :-X
Title: Re: GHEY J HAS NO FAITH IN GOD
Post by: J Grey on December 21, 2008, 10:53:39 AM
HEY MORON, YOUR OWN CHERISHED BOOK OF PROVERBS INSTRUCTS YOU TO DRINK YOUR OWN URINE.

YOU, being the bible-pounding queer you are, have absolutely no place to speak against it.

hahahahahahahahaha

well is a well not a penis you skinny twink.  Go lift some weights and suck falcon's cock, drink your piss and sit there debating when the world
will come to an end.
Title: Re: GHEY J HAS NO FAITH IN GOD
Post by: Soundness on December 21, 2008, 10:57:33 AM
hahahahahahahahaha

well is a well not a penis you skinny twink.  Go lift some weights and suck falcon's cock, drink your piss and sit there debating when the world
will come to an end.


cistern: a sac or cavity containing natural body fluid.

"Drink water from your own cistern, flowing water from your own well." (The Book of Proverbs 5:15) ;)

"But Rabshakeh said, Hath my master sent me to thy master and to thee to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men that sit upon the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?" (Isaiah 36:12) (See also 2 Kings 18:27)

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(Apparently you missed this part, the CISTERN part, it's not talking about a fucking hole in the ground idiot.
You are incapable of any depth of thought past that of a retard.  ::) )
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: The Ugly on December 21, 2008, 10:59:54 AM
One other thing I would recommend... and I'm hoping this isn't taken the wrong way, but as a homosexual man who has used intravenous steroids, and in light of your continuing history of health problems (nerve infections etc etc), perhaps you should consider a HIV test?

No offense intended. Just being pragmatic.

The Luke

I don't recall an outing. What did I miss?
Title: Re: GHEY J HAS NO FAITH IN GOD
Post by: J Grey on December 21, 2008, 11:06:14 AM
cistern: a sac or cavity containing natural body fluid.

"Drink water from your own cistern, flowing water from your own well." (The Book of Proverbs 5:15) ;)

"But Rabshakeh said, Hath my master sent me to thy master and to thee to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men that sit upon the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?" (Isaiah 36:12) (See also 2 Kings 18:27)

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(Apparently you missed this part, the CISTERN part, it's not talking about a fucking hole in the ground idiot.
You are incapable of any depth of thought past that of a retard.  ::) )



Genesis 26:21 And they digged another well, and strove for that also: and he called the name of it Sitnah.

Genesis 16:14 Wherefore the well was called Beerlahairoi; behold, it is between Kadesh and Bered.


Genesis 24:11 And he made his camels to kneel down without the city by a well of water at the time of the evening, even the time that women go out to draw water.

Proverbs 10:11 The mouth of a righteous man is a well of life: but violence covereth the mouth of the wicked.





Title: Re: GHEY J HAS NO FAITH IN GOD
Post by: Soundness on December 21, 2008, 11:08:45 AM


Genesis 26:21 And they digged another well, and strove for that also: and he called the name of it Sitnah.

Genesis 16:14 Wherefore the well was called Beerlahairoi; behold, it is between Kadesh and Bered.


Genesis 24:11 And he made his camels to kneel down without the city by a well of water at the time of the evening, even the time that women go out to draw water.

Proverbs 10:11 The mouth of a righteous man is a well of life: but violence covereth the mouth of the wicked.

Does this address the use of the word CISTERN? No.

"Drink water from your own cistern, flowing water from your own well." (The Book of Proverbs 5:15)

You only hear what you want to hear, you're a mental midget who has reached the limit of his intellectual capacity.

You are one pathetic human being Ghey J. Chasing me around getbig mad cause you tried to drink your own piss but were too pussy to handle it, because even if you did handle it you're too pussy to even hide it from your fiance, who wouldn't marry you if she found out BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T REALLY LOVE YOUR QUEER ASS, mad because you don't believe in god or your own bible you thump away at.  ::)
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: tommywishbone on December 21, 2008, 11:10:24 AM
I'm a bit confused MJ. You're an educated man, who works in the medical profession, and you're coming to a bodybuilding website for personal medical advice?

Regardless; welcome back.
Title: Re: GHEY J HAS NO FAITH IN GOD
Post by: J Grey on December 21, 2008, 11:11:05 AM
Does this address the use of the word CISTERN? No.

"Drink water from your own cistern, flowing water from your own well." (The Book of Proverbs 5:15)

You only hear what you want to hear, you're a mental midget who has reached the limit of his intellectual capacity.

You are one pathetic human being Ghey J. Chasing me around getbig mad cause you tried to drink your own piss but were too pussy to handle it, because even if you did handle it you're too pussy to even hide it from your fiance, who wouldn't marry you if she found out BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T REALLY LOVE YOUR QUEER ASS, mad because you don't believe in god or your own bible you thump away at.  ::)



way to copy and paste the same shit on every thread, you fucking skinny piss drinking faggot.
Title: Re: GHEY J HAS NO FAITH IN GOD
Post by: Soundness on December 21, 2008, 11:17:19 AM

way to copy and paste the same shit on every thread, you fucking skinny piss drinking faggot.
That doesn't address the use of the word cistern either, queer. That quote means "Drink your own body fluid."

You're a pussy in every aspect in life. You lack courage, pound a bible you don't believe in, and know deep down your fiance doesn't love you.
Title: Re: GHEY J HAS NO FAITH IN GOD
Post by: brent2741 on December 21, 2008, 11:18:48 AM

way to copy and paste the same shit on every thread, you fucking skinny piss drinking faggot.


everything you seem to have to say in some way references homos, or fags or something gay... i think that says a lot about you. maybe a closet homo?
Title: GHEY J = CLOSET HOMO
Post by: Soundness on December 21, 2008, 11:20:39 AM

everything you seem to have to say in some way references homos, or fags or something gay... i think that says a lot about you. maybe a closet homo?
Yes, this is where his aggression comes from exactly.
Whenever someone's aggressive like that it means there's part of them they feel horrible about.  :-\
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: The Ugly on December 21, 2008, 11:21:51 AM

Most of it was deleted because Ron fears lawsuits, but the short version is Jimmy Thompson and Sergiopump outed Moose as gay with some stories from the 80's bodybuilding scene they were witness to.

Stories? Ok, so it wasn't like they exposed a fagtacular MySpace love affair or posted pics of him stripping aboard the SS Sausagefest.    
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: The ChemistV2 on December 21, 2008, 11:23:57 AM
Stories? Ok, so it wasn't like they exposed a fagtacular MySpace love affair or posted pics of him stripping aboard the SS Sausagefest.    
No. Just stories, rumours, and allegations. No real proof whatsoever.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: G o a t b o y on December 21, 2008, 11:23:58 AM
pics of him stripping aboard the SS Sausagefest.    

No, that was Derek Anthony, not Moose.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: G o a t b o y on December 21, 2008, 11:25:16 AM
No. Just stories, rumours, and allegations. No real proof whatsoever.

Jimmy Thompson claimed first-hand knowledge, so it really comes down to his credibility vs Moose's.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: d0nny2600 on December 21, 2008, 11:26:42 AM
Stories? Ok, so it wasn't like they exposed a fagtacular MySpace love affair or posted pics of him stripping aboard the SS Sausagefest.    
However he did stop posting as soon as he was outed....this kind of confirmed it.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Permabulker on December 21, 2008, 11:28:21 AM
More like "a thread that will not heal"....   ::)
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: The ChemistV2 on December 21, 2008, 11:29:12 AM
Jimmy Thompson claimed first-hand knowledge, so it really comes down to his credibility vs Moose's.
Didn't Jimmy also tell stories of Danny Padilla and Franco Columbu being forced to dress in schoolboy uniforms and being sodomized by the Weiders. Also a story of Shawn Ray being put in a tribal outfit, also sodomized and being made to respond to the name "Little Oohuru". Those stories sound real credible to me. ::)
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: sergiopump on December 21, 2008, 11:29:59 AM
I personally saw him in the company of Chris Dickerson in the early 80's, he was one of his groupies, Chris liked his boys to dress in leather and grow moustaches, and Chris had many of them in those days.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Butterbean on December 21, 2008, 11:31:13 AM
Hi Moosejay, sorry about your situation!  Some websites that may be of interest to you:

Top Websites for Non Healing WoundsTop Websites for Non Healing Wounds from RightHealth Editor's Picks

non-healing wound Symptoms, Treatments and Resources - MedHelp
This page is MedHelp's authoritative resource for non-healing wound including symptoms, treatment, causes and diagnoses. MedHelp's non-healing wound page ...
www.medhelp.org


eMedicine - Wound Healing, Chronic Wounds : Article by Jorge I de ...
Nonhealing chronic wounds are a challenge to the patient, the health care professional, and the health care system. They significantly impair the quality of ...

www.emedicine.com


Negative Pressure Wound Therapy/Vacuum-Assisted Closure (VAC) for ...
The evidence supporting the use of vacuum-assisted wound therapy in the treatment of chronic. nonhealing wounds exists primarily in the form of ...

www.cigna.com


wound care consultants (be prepared for graphic pics)

www.wound.com/


Also from what I've read on it briefly if you smoke, it could be a major factor in impairing the healing process.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: d0nny2600 on December 21, 2008, 11:31:33 AM
I personally saw him in the company of Chris Dickerson in the early 80's, he was one of his groupies, Chris liked his boys to dress in leather and grow moustaches, and Chris had many of them in those days.
And there you have it folks!
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Moosejay on December 21, 2008, 11:37:04 AM
I'm a bit confused MJ. You're an educated man, who works in the medical profession, and you're coming to a bodybuilding website for personal medical advice?

Regardless; welcome back.

You never know who can offer a solution. I have been to the best medical minds without solutions.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Moosejay on December 21, 2008, 11:37:54 AM

Most of it was deleted because Ron fears lawsuits, but the short version is Jimmy Thompson and Sergiopump outed Moose as gay with some stories from the 80's bodybuilding scene they were witness to.

 :)
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Butterbean on December 21, 2008, 11:38:34 AM
You never know who can offer a solution. I have been to the best medical minds without solutions.
Moose, have you been tested for diabetes or cancer?
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 21, 2008, 11:39:14 AM
Moose, have you been tested for diabetes or cancer?

or HIV
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Moosejay on December 21, 2008, 11:39:39 AM
Moose,

A few things here...

Have your doctor run a CBC and culture the site to see how your White count is doing and also what strand might be causing the problem at the wound, you might have an infection going on there (Bacterial at that) that might be in need of treatment by something systemic like Vanco or Cipro.  If the culture comes back positive, along with your White count (Neutrophils) being high, then most likely you have a bacterial infection that, like I said before, will need a broad spectrum antibiotic, followed by maybe a topical antibiotic cream.  The odds of it being viral are pretty slim, especially with wounds at the superficial layer of skin, but if the white count comes back high(Lymphocyte) then it probably is viral, I doubt it though. 

If that option helps the wound reduce in inflammation, then the next step will be to just have your doctor stitch or staple the wound together.  The wound itself doesn't look to be too deep, so healing by secondary intention (Allowing it to stay open and the granulation tissue to form) can still be an option.

If they have tried such measures but to no avail, let me know and I will give you some other suggestions..

"1"

Thanks..good post...I am on Bactrim, 800mgs, 2ce a day
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Moosejay on December 21, 2008, 11:40:21 AM
Moose

You need to find a wound care and hyperbaric medicine center. Search for one around you, they're typically internal departments associated with a hospital. Or search google for a Wound Care physician, they usually have their own practice and work within one of these centers too.

You may need to do have some hyperbaric treatments, its hard to tell how big it really is from the pictures. It could take anywhere from 10-20 weeks to fully heal.  

Yes, hyperbarics are next....Uconn m ed center
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: G o a t b o y on December 21, 2008, 11:40:26 AM
:)

Why don't you call Jimmy and Sergiopump out?  Ask them to back up their claims.  Seems to me some very specific facts were alleged that you should be able to disprove if they are not true.  As it is now, your silence speaks volumes.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Man of Steel on December 21, 2008, 11:41:17 AM
I would talk to your doc about a wound vac.

Or you could pm any one of Sarcasm's victims....he's left them with MANY unhealed wounds.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Moosejay on December 21, 2008, 11:41:40 AM
Wound healing has two problems, nutrition and vascular access. From the look of your wound it looks inflamed, I am assuming that it is probably infected. If you are having any fevers, you need to go to an ED, and probably get admitted for IV antibiotics, however, if it is not is not infected, you need to go see a plastic surgeon. Regardless, go to Yale's ED, get the wound cultured and wrapped, and get referred to a plastic surgeon. Depending on how deep the wound is, you may even need a flap reconstruction. But you need to see someone asap. On a side note, these type of things will continue to happen in American health care, if we don't start paying PCPs more.

Yes...I have the top plastics guy now


Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Moosejay on December 21, 2008, 11:43:21 AM
No. Just stories, rumours, and allegations. No real proof whatsoever.

Yes, Chem.

You understand, of course, that we post among wizards here
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Moosejay on December 21, 2008, 11:44:32 AM
Hi Moosejay, sorry about your situation!  Some websites that may be of interest to you:

Top Websites for Non Healing WoundsTop Websites for Non Healing Wounds from RightHealth Editor's Picks

non-healing wound Symptoms, Treatments and Resources - MedHelp
This page is MedHelp's authoritative resource for non-healing wound including symptoms, treatment, causes and diagnoses. MedHelp's non-healing wound page ...
www.medhelp.org

Thank you, Stella!


eMedicine - Wound Healing, Chronic Wounds : Article by Jorge I de ...
Nonhealing chronic wounds are a challenge to the patient, the health care professional, and the health care system. They significantly impair the quality of ...

www.emedicine.com


Negative Pressure Wound Therapy/Vacuum-Assisted Closure (VAC) for ...
The evidence supporting the use of vacuum-assisted wound therapy in the treatment of chronic. nonhealing wounds exists primarily in the form of ...

www.cigna.com


wound care consultants (be prepared for graphic pics)

www.wound.com/


Also from what I've read on it briefly if you smoke, it could be a major factor in impairing the healing process.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Moosejay on December 21, 2008, 11:45:54 AM
Moose, have you been tested for diabetes or cancer?

Diabetes, yes

Cancer, no...hmmmm
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: The Ugly on December 21, 2008, 11:46:16 AM
Jimmy Thompson claimed first-hand knowledge, so it really comes down to his credibility vs Moose's.

Jimmy Thompson almost sounds like a real name.

Has he witnessed any Bigfoot hunting? Getbiggers just being mean, right?  
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Bossa on December 21, 2008, 11:46:32 AM
Or you could pm any one of Sarcasm's victims....he's left them with MANY unhealed wounds.

 ;D
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Moosejay on December 21, 2008, 11:46:47 AM
I would talk to your doc about a wound vac.

Or you could pm any one of Sarcasm's victims....he's left them with MANY unhealed wounds.

Got a wound vac right now...will post a pic
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Big Mark C on December 21, 2008, 11:47:45 AM
I would talk to your doc about a wound vac.

Or you could pm any one of Sarcasm's victims....he's left them with MANY unhealed wounds.

actually the biggest victim was quacker dave and his fat used car sales woman girlfriend of his   he ran like a chicken when he got exposed   
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 21, 2008, 11:49:19 AM
actually the biggest victim was quacker dave and his fat used car sales woman girlfriend of his   he ran like a chicken when he got exposed   

 ::)
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: The Ugly on December 21, 2008, 11:49:36 AM
Didn't Jimmy also tell stories of Danny Padilla and Franco Columbu being forced to dress in schoolboy uniforms and being sodomized by the Weiders. Also a story of Shawn Ray being put in a tribal outfit, also sodomized and being made to respond to the name "Little Oohuru". Those stories sound real credible to me. ::)

Sounds like Jimmy has a sassy imagination and some fabulously unresolved issues.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: no one on December 21, 2008, 11:53:54 AM
Yes, Chem.

You understand, of course, that we post among wizards here

why did you run when the 'truth' came to be known if it wasn't the 'truth' then?

say what you want, but your absence and subsequent return speaks volumes about these 'allegations' and 'innuendo'.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Bossa on December 21, 2008, 11:55:17 AM
kinda looks like this:

(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1817/kr4ox1.jpg)

(http://www.jiujitsuforums.com/w/images/1/11/Staph2.jpg)
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Army of One on December 21, 2008, 11:57:11 AM
kinda looks like this:

(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1817/kr4ox1.jpg)

(http://www.jiujitsuforums.com/w/images/1/11/Staph2.jpg)

Guy took getting ripped to the next level.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Moosejay on December 21, 2008, 11:57:35 AM
why did you run when the 'truth' came to be known if it wasn't the 'truth' then?

Lawyer

say what you want, but your absence and subsequent return speaks volumes about these 'allegations' and 'innuendo'.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: J Grey on December 21, 2008, 11:59:57 AM
hahahahahahahahaha calling your lawyer because you have been exposed as a homosexual.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Bossa on December 21, 2008, 12:01:12 PM
Moosejay I don't know anything about your or what the situation is here...but I think the question needs to be answered to clarify things....do you lust after the cock?
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Army of One on December 21, 2008, 12:01:33 PM
Maybe Jaejonna should have called his lawyer when you called him "slanty eyes"
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 21, 2008, 12:01:49 PM
Moosejay I don't know anything about your or what the situation is here...but I think the question needs to be answered to clarify things....do you lust after the cock?

hahaha
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Butterbean on December 21, 2008, 12:02:25 PM
(from www.medhelp.org)

Q:  I had a bone graft from the left posterior iliac crest to C6-7 on 7/5/07. I developed a seroma and staph infection (at which time my neurosurgeon told me that all the fat in that area had turned into “soup”) and had an I&D of the seroma on 7/16/07 with a week of IV antibiotics inpatient & I&D again on 9/11/07.  I have been on IV or oral antibiotics since July 16 continuously.  I have been seen at a wound care center and they have referred me to the plastic surgeon. My wound is 1.8 cm long x 1 cm wide x 10 cm deep with tunnels, and is down to the bone.  I have had a wound VAC for 6 weeks & wound is not getting better. What treatment options are available from the plastic surgeon?



A:
by Howard Rosenberg, MD

There are a number of options regarding closure of the wound.  One of the first issues that may have been evaluated is whether there is infection of your bone
(Osteomyelitis).  Options for wound closure range from aggressive debridement and contiuned wound dressing changes to skin grafting to local flap closure.  Your plastic surgeon consultant will be able to address these options.


Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Moosejay on December 21, 2008, 12:07:29 PM
(from www.medhelp.org)

Q:  I had a bone graft from the left posterior iliac crest to C6-7 on 7/5/07. I developed a seroma and staph infection (at which time my neurosurgeon told me that all the fat in that area had turned into “soup”) and had an I&D of the seroma on 7/16/07 with a week of IV antibiotics inpatient & I&D again on 9/11/07.  I have been on IV or oral antibiotics since July 16 continuously.  I have been seen at a wound care center and they have referred me to the plastic surgeon. My wound is 1.8 cm long x 1 cm wide x 10 cm deep with tunnels, and is down to the bone.  I have had a wound VAC for 6 weeks & wound is not getting better. What treatment options are available from the plastic surgeon?



A:
by Howard Rosenberg, MD

There are a number of options regarding closure of the wound.  One of the first issues that may have been evaluated is whether there is infection of your bone
(Osteomyelitis).  Options for wound closure range from aggressive debridement and contiuned wound dressing changes to skin grafting to local flap closure.  Your plastic surgeon consultant will be able to address these options.




I have had a wound vac for about 10 days now

Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: d0nny2600 on December 21, 2008, 12:08:25 PM
Moosejay I don't know anything about your or what the situation is here...but I think the question needs to be answered to clarify things....do you lust after the cock?
Bump
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Army of One on July 09, 2009, 06:54:43 AM
Bump
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Deicide on July 09, 2009, 06:55:30 AM
Bump

Bump thump bump
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: lift 456 on July 09, 2009, 06:58:41 AM
Moosejay is lax now, right?
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: MAXX on July 09, 2009, 06:59:45 AM
so did this wound heal?  :-X
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Mars on July 09, 2009, 07:00:43 AM
heal the wound make it a better place.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: The Master on July 09, 2009, 07:01:24 AM
heal the wound make it a better place.


;D
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Deicide on July 09, 2009, 07:01:35 AM
Moosejay is lax now, right?

Yes.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Army of One on July 09, 2009, 07:03:03 AM
Moosejay is lax now, right?

I sent a link to Lax which he stupidly clicked, these were the results.Its 100% Moosegay.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on July 09, 2009, 07:03:13 AM
so did this wound heal?  :-X
yes it did,,,but without some major surgeries when i got off the phone with mike about 2 weeks everything is in fine order so far he will need to do some check ups every 2 weeks for the next 6 months then after that go every month and do check ups,,other than that he said after the getbig incident where he was asking for advice and all he got was getbig anger towards him for no apparent reason he quit coming here for that fact,,i told him the guys didnt understand and will in time he was not having it,,his emotional bank was drained after so many postings about his arm,,,,I still call him and he calls me on occassion,,,,as for FALCON HE SAIDS:  SCREW YOU AND YOUR HEALING METHODS OF MEAT DIDNT WORK!!!
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: BIG_STI on July 09, 2009, 07:13:48 AM
I sent a link to Lax which he stupidly clicked, these were the results.Its 100% Moosegay.

outed
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: MAXX on July 09, 2009, 07:27:01 AM
I sent a link to Lax which he stupidly clicked, these were the results.Its 100% Moosegay.
lol nice detective work  ;D
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: noworries on July 09, 2009, 08:28:48 AM
I don't think it healed.  It takes lax too long to respond to posts.  Meaning he is typing with only one finger now
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Team Diver on July 09, 2009, 01:56:21 PM
since then the wound has spread...
(http://blog.davidgolightly.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/two-face.jpg)
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: dr.chimps on July 09, 2009, 02:05:10 PM
Yes.
I liked Moosejay. Don't care much for Lax. Maybe it's a Moosejay Id!?  ???
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Marty Champions on July 09, 2009, 02:06:17 PM
yes it did,,,but without some major surgeries when i got off the phone with mike about 2 weeks everything is in fine order so far he will need to do some check ups every 2 weeks for the next 6 months then after that go every month and do check ups,,other than that he said after the getbig incident where he was asking for advice and all he got was getbig anger towards him for no apparent reason he quit coming here for that fact,,i told him the guys didnt understand and will in time he was not having it,,his emotional bank was drained after so many postings about his arm,,,,I still call him and he calls me on occassion,,,,as for FALCON HE SAIDS:  SCREW YOU AND YOUR HEALING METHODS OF MEAT DIDNT WORK!!!

duah moosejay continued to eat meat thats why his arm never healed and moosejays arm reduced to a stump  :-\
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Army of One on July 09, 2009, 02:06:34 PM
I liked Moosejay. Don't care much for Lax. Maybe it's a Moosejay Id!?  ???

It is Moosejay, the ip doesnt lie.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: dr.chimps on July 09, 2009, 02:09:35 PM
It is Moosejay, the ip doesnt lie.
Thanks, 'chop master. I got it. I said Id, tho, not IP.  :)
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: lax on July 10, 2009, 05:05:33 AM
since then the wound has spread...
(http://blog.davidgolightly.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/two-face.jpg)

amazing makeup job
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: io856 on July 10, 2009, 05:12:07 AM
heal the wound make it a better place.
theres a place on your arm and I know that it is aids... you can see that its so hollow...
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Kentucky_cowboy on November 24, 2009, 11:21:40 AM
I sent a link to Lax which he stupidly clicked, these were the results.Its 100% Moosegay.

Its funny how a lot of us gave our sympathies and concern towards moosegay for his wound and despite this he is now back as the biggest hate monger on here. 
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on November 24, 2009, 12:02:41 PM
anyone know what actually happened in the end?
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 24, 2009, 12:08:34 PM
anyone know what actually happened in the end?

He didn't recover.
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: GigantorX on October 30, 2011, 09:29:32 AM
MOosejay, is he dead? Or just molestign his 15 year old bbing nephew?
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on October 30, 2011, 11:00:53 AM
Surely he has expired
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: johnnynoname on October 30, 2011, 11:02:07 AM
i remember how all you assholes thought that moosejay was telling the truth

i don't think it was in this particular thread but I remember not buying it at all



see, that's why I'm awesome

you're welcome
Title: Re: a wound that will not heal
Post by: Dr Dutch on October 30, 2011, 11:55:44 AM
MOosejay, is he dead? Or just molestign his 15 year old bbing nephew?
He's dead, or will be shortly..