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epic bitch tits
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Side triceps
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Big dude, all the way big dude
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The guy is in pretty good shape, considering his job title and the volume of work that it entails.
Jason
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is that jacked dude in the background of the second pic his secret service?
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is that jacked dude in the background of the second pic his secret service?
yes
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You will see no pres looking better. Great BGG! ;D
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epic bitch tits
Needs to lay off the Winstrol I would say... He can always call Cormier and get the number to the doctor that got rid of his bitch tits.
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Yes, he's shredded ::)
Take a picture of him 2 years from now, He'll look like this guy...
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/reddfoxx2.jpg)
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Yes, he's shredded ::)
Take a picture of him 2 years from now, He'll look like this guy...
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/reddfoxx2.jpg)
Right wing hate ::)
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Epic gyno.
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Epic gyno.
His chest looks like he has utters.
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Yes, he's shredded ::)
Take a picture of him 2 years from now, He'll look like this guy...
Shut your mouth Timeshare schmoe. Obama will pull this country out of the shithole... an that's coming from a lifelong purebreed Republican.
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Shut your mouth Timeshare schmoe. Obama will pull this country out of the shithole... an that's coming from a lifelong purebreed Republican.
Your joking right?
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Shut your mouth Timeshare schmoe. Obama will pull this country out of the shithole... an that's coming from a lifelong purebreed Republican.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA...
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BWAHAHAHAHAHA...
Shut your mouth Socialist thread locking schmoe; you propagate your ideology of sensorship on a muscleboard. We will topple you very soon.
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At his age, his position in life, the schedule he must maintain, I mean you have to admit. Hell, just look at the profile. His belly doesn't protrude pass his chest like the majority of the board members here pass 35 years old (and a good percentage under). I didn't vote for the man but monster props on not being flabby.
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Your joking right?
Until the Republicanas can demonstrate that pushing "creationist" shit and non scientific idealogy that have kept this backward is good, they deserve to clean the Capitol Shit holes. until then science and rationalism prevails and will bring us to the space age.
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Shut your mouth Socialist thread locking schmoe; you propagate your ideology of sensorship on a muscleboard. We will topple you very soon.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
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He doesn't have gyno, no gland their, looks like the shape of his muscle in his pecs.
jt
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Until the Republicanas can demonstrate that pushing "creationist" shit and non scientific idealogy that have kept this backward is good, they deserve to clean the Capitol Shit holes. until then science and rationalism prevails and will bring us to the space age.
Ok, that one got past me. I don't follow.
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Ok, that one got past me. I don't follow.
Coach to you believe in evolution?
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Coach to you believe in evolution?
No.
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No.
Hahahah oh brother, case closed.
People like you can't run a country in a world where science prevails; Republicans or not.
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Hahahah oh brother, case closed.
People like you can't run a country in a world where science prevails; Republicans or not.
Evolution is an excuse not to believe in Allah, and the prophet Mohammad. If you want to live your life eating food and defaming the name of him, go ahead, but you will not end up with 72 virgins.
jt
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Hahahah oh brother, case closed.
People like you can't run a country in a world where science prevails; Republicans or not.
Really? How so?
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Science does not prevail Alex, you can see religion runs the world, Muslim country's influence every part of the United States.
jt
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Shut your mouth Socialist thread locking schmoe; you propagate your ideology of sensorship on a muscleboard. We will topple you very soon.
BWAHAHAHAHA³
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Evolution is an excuse not to believe in Allah, and the prophet Mohammad. If you want to live your life eating food and defaming the name of him, go ahead, but you will not end up with 72 virgins.
jt
hahahahah cuming from the ideology of burning "records" and "TV sets" because of their "evilness"... oh brother;
Carbon dating = doesn't lie. Nuclear technology = proven and developped by science.
Muaham + Haaaalha = will be nuked pretty soon.
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Carbon dating is flawed, any person with some brains would know that. Peace be upon you and your friends.
jt
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hahahahah cuming from the ideology of burning "records" and "TV sets" because of their "evilness"... oh brother;
Carbon dating = doesn't lie. Nuclear technology = proven and developped by science.
Muaham + Haaaalha = will be nuked pretty soon.
Carbon dating can only go back to a couple of thousand years if that.
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Carbon dating can only go back to a couple of thousand years if that.
it has problems but it can date back way farther than a couple thousand years.
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Carbon dating can only go back to a couple of thousand years if that.
Wrong. Evolution in your face.
(http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/aroundtheworld/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/triceratops-skeleton-6-6-07.jpg)
Now go run to your bible for explanations and comforting. ::)
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Also Alex the earth is only around 6,000 years old. The prophet Muhammad was born in the year 570.
jt
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FYI, I'm not anti religion; but religion only starts where science ends; which it keeps pushing.
"Prayers" and "The bible" didn't send anyone to the moon or accomplish amazing engineering , masterpieces. Science did. Religion gave a way of life.
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Wrong. Evolution in your face.
(http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/aroundtheworld/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/triceratops-skeleton-6-6-07.jpg)
Now go run to your bible for explanations and comforting. ::)
excellent support for the validity of carbon dating... sure genius... BWHAhahahahaha
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Wrong. Evolution in your face.
(http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/aroundtheworld/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/triceratops-skeleton-6-6-07.jpg)
Now go run to your bible for explanations and comforting. ::)
A simple example from a simple mind. Alex one thing you do not understand is the Koran talks about beasts walking amongst the people, of course when the Koran was written they simply thought the beast's would still be alive today and we would have no problem deciphering what they were talking about. The died off, and now we are left wondering what these beasts where that walked amongst them, they were the dinosaurs, and by the way, the are only a few thousand years old as well.
jt
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Also Alex the earth is only around 6,000 years old. The prophet Muhammad was born in the year 570.
jt
stop ::)
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You can't handle the truth Hugo.
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Carbon dating for noobs... 60k years is common measures. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_dating
with K12 methods, we're way beyond that...
Dellusionites, go back to your cocoon of religious comfort while scientists and forward thinkers are developing technologies to heal you and bring humanity forward.
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Many Physical Evidences Contradict the “Billions of Years”
Of the methods that have been used to estimate the age of the earth, 90 percent point to an age far less than the billions of years asserted by evolutionists. A few of them follow.
Evidence for a rapid formation of geological strata, as in the biblical flood. Some of the evidences are: lack of erosion between rock layers supposedly separated in age by many millions of years; lack of disturbance of rock strata by biological activity (worms, roots, etc.); lack of soil layers; polystrate fossils (which traverse several rock layers vertically—these could not have stood vertically for eons of time while they slowly got buried); thick layers of “rock” bent without fracturing, indicating that the rock was all soft when bent; and more. For more, see books by geologists Morris[26] and Austin.[27]
Red blood cells and hemoglobin have been found in some (unfossilized!) dinosaur bone. But these could not last more than a few thousand years—certainly not the 65 Ma since the last dinosaurs lived, according to evolutionists.[28]
The earth's magnetic field has been decaying so fast that it looks like it is less than 10,000 years old. Rapid reversals during the flood year and fluctuations shortly after would have caused the field energy to drop even faster.[29]
Radioactive decay releases helium into the atmosphere, but not much is escaping. The total amount in the atmosphere is 1/2000th of that expected if the universe is really billions of years old. This helium originally escaped from rocks. This happens quite fast, yet so much helium is still in some rocks that it has not had time to escape—certainly not billions of years.[30]
A supernova is an explosion of a massive star—the explosion is so bright that it briefly outshines the rest of the galaxy. The supernova remnants (SNRs) should keep expanding for hundreds of thousands of years, according to physical equations. Yet there are no very old, widely expanded (Stage 3) SNRs, and few moderately old (Stage 1) ones in our galaxy, the Milky Way, or in its satellite galaxies, the Magellanic Clouds. This is just what we would expect for “young” galaxies that have not existed long enough for wide expansion.[31]
The moon is slowly receding for the earth at about 4 centimeters (1.5 inches) per year, and this rate would have been greater in the past. But even if the moon had started receding from being in contact with the earth, it would have taken only 1.37 billion years to reach its present distance from the earth. This gives a maximum age of the moon, not the actual age. This is far too young for evolutionists who claim the moon is 4.6 billion years old. It is also much younger than the radiometric “dates” assigned to moon rocks.[32]
Salt is entering the sea much faster than it is escaping. The sea is not nearly salty enough for this to have been happening for billions of years. Even granting generous assumptions to evolutionists, the sea could not be more than 62 Ma years old—far younger than the billions of years believed by the evolutionists. Again, this indicates a maximum age, not the actual age.[33]
Dr. Russell Humphreys gives other processes inconsistent with billions of years in the pamphlet Evidence for a Young World.[34]
Creationists cannot prove the age of the earth using a particular scientific method, any more than evolutionists can. They realize that all science is tentative because we do not have all the data, especially when dealing with the past. This is true of both creationist and evolutionist scientific arguments—evolutionists have had to abandon many “proofs” for evolution just as creationists have also had to modify their arguments. The atheistic evolutionist W.B. Provine admitted:
"Most of what I learned of the field [evolutionary biology] in graduate (1964-68) school is either wrong or significantly changed."[35]
Creationists understand the limitations of dating methods better than evolutionists who claim that they can use processes observed in the present to “prove” that the earth is billions of years old. In reality, all dating methods, including those that point to a young earth, rely on unprovable assumptions.
Creationists ultimately date the earth historically using the chronology of the Bible. This is because they believe that this is an accurate eyewitness account of world history, which bears the evidence within it that it is the Word of God, and therefore totally reliable and error-free.
Then What Do the Radiometric “Dates” Mean?
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c007.html
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http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c007.html
ahahah ok "coach".. "christiananswerz.net" vs Applied science.... ;D
Whatever makes you sleep better at night man... my original point is -> Republican manipulations to stay in power (including clinging to the evangelical nuts) = damaging and slowing down this country.
End of the story and this is coming from a hardocre republican who had to come to his senses.
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Many Physical Evidences Contradict the “Billions of Years”
Of the methods that have been used to estimate the age of the earth, 90 percent point to an age far less than the billions of years asserted by evolutionists. A few of them follow.
Evidence for a rapid formation of geological strata, as in the biblical flood. Some of the evidences are: lack of erosion between rock layers supposedly separated in age by many millions of years; lack of disturbance of rock strata by biological activity (worms, roots, etc.); lack of soil layers; polystrate fossils (which traverse several rock layers vertically—these could not have stood vertically for eons of time while they slowly got buried); thick layers of “rock” bent without fracturing, indicating that the rock was all soft when bent; and more. For more, see books by geologists Morris[26] and Austin.[27]
Red blood cells and hemoglobin have been found in some (unfossilized!) dinosaur bone. But these could not last more than a few thousand years—certainly not the 65 Ma since the last dinosaurs lived, according to evolutionists.[28]
The earth's magnetic field has been decaying so fast that it looks like it is less than 10,000 years old. Rapid reversals during the flood year and fluctuations shortly after would have caused the field energy to drop even faster.[29]
Radioactive decay releases helium into the atmosphere, but not much is escaping. The total amount in the atmosphere is 1/2000th of that expected if the universe is really billions of years old. This helium originally escaped from rocks. This happens quite fast, yet so much helium is still in some rocks that it has not had time to escape—certainly not billions of years.[30]
A supernova is an explosion of a massive star—the explosion is so bright that it briefly outshines the rest of the galaxy. The supernova remnants (SNRs) should keep expanding for hundreds of thousands of years, according to physical equations. Yet there are no very old, widely expanded (Stage 3) SNRs, and few moderately old (Stage 1) ones in our galaxy, the Milky Way, or in its satellite galaxies, the Magellanic Clouds. This is just what we would expect for “young” galaxies that have not existed long enough for wide expansion.[31]
The moon is slowly receding for the earth at about 4 centimeters (1.5 inches) per year, and this rate would have been greater in the past. But even if the moon had started receding from being in contact with the earth, it would have taken only 1.37 billion years to reach its present distance from the earth. This gives a maximum age of the moon, not the actual age. This is far too young for evolutionists who claim the moon is 4.6 billion years old. It is also much younger than the radiometric “dates” assigned to moon rocks.[32]
Salt is entering the sea much faster than it is escaping. The sea is not nearly salty enough for this to have been happening for billions of years. Even granting generous assumptions to evolutionists, the sea could not be more than 62 Ma years old—far younger than the billions of years believed by the evolutionists. Again, this indicates a maximum age, not the actual age.[33]
Dr. Russell Humphreys gives other processes inconsistent with billions of years in the pamphlet Evidence for a Young World.[34]
Creationists cannot prove the age of the earth using a particular scientific method, any more than evolutionists can. They realize that all science is tentative because we do not have all the data, especially when dealing with the past. This is true of both creationist and evolutionist scientific arguments—evolutionists have had to abandon many “proofs” for evolution just as creationists have also had to modify their arguments. The atheistic evolutionist W.B. Provine admitted:
"Most of what I learned of the field [evolutionary biology] in graduate (1964-68) school is either wrong or significantly changed."[35]
Creationists understand the limitations of dating methods better than evolutionists who claim that they can use processes observed in the present to “prove” that the earth is billions of years old. In reality, all dating methods, including those that point to a young earth, rely on unprovable assumptions.
Creationists ultimately date the earth historically using the chronology of the Bible. This is because they believe that this is an accurate eyewitness account of world history, which bears the evidence within it that it is the Word of God, and therefore totally reliable and error-free.
Then What Do the Radiometric “Dates” Mean?
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c007.html
do you really believe the earth is only roughly 6000 years old? really?
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You can't handle the truth Hugo.
you're kidding with this stuff right?
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His chest looks like he has utters.
you have retarded maturation of the developmental senses.
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End of the story and this is coming from a hardocre republican who had to come to his senses.
There is no telling what you can accomplish now. Powerful before but now...Unfucking Stoppable.
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Carbon dating can only go back to a couple of thousand years if that.
Un-farking-believable. Obviously, evolution did not hit your branch of the tree. :-X
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is that jacked dude in the background of the second pic his secret service?
Yes , the funny thing is that he goes swimming with Obama too.
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Shut your mouth Timeshare schmoe. Obama will pull this country out of the shithole... an that's coming from a lifelong purebreed Republican.
Hey DickFace, Do you really want to talk politics.. And I can tell you are not a republican by the way you stated that you are a purebreed Republican. Your liberal thinking says other wise.
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Hey DickFace, Do you really want to talk politics.. And I can tell you are not a republican by the way you stated that you are a purebreed Republican. Your liberal thinking says other wise.
jesus was a liberal
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jesus was a liberal
Jesus was black.
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Jesus was black.
Ha! Jesus also had compassion and gave to the needy. ;D
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Coach to you believe in evolution?
No.
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Ha! Jesus also had compassion and gave to the needy. ;D
So, he was...a Scandinavian socialist? Works for me. Definitely not a Republican, at least.
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Really? How so?
Because you are stupid.
And blind. I see no gyno on Obama.
Say what you want, he shit kicked your party to the curb without breaking a sweat.
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Osama is a knee-grow socialist, and he ain't my president. Whoever runs against him in 2012 can count on my vote.
on jan 20 '09 he will be The President of The United States of America
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Osama is a knee-grow socialist, and he ain't my president. Whoever runs against him in 2012 can count on my vote.
Amazingly Stupid SHM
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Amazingly Stupid SHM
Obama will be one of the worst Presidents in history. He's going to ruin America. But you probably are the type that think government exists to take care of people. You should realize this living in California. Do you realize just how fucking much your taxes are going to go up if Schwarzenazi passes the democratic budget and fee plan?
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Hey DickFace, Do you really want to talk politics.. And I can tell you are not a republican by the way you stated that you are a purebreed Republican. Your liberal thinking says other wise.
lots of republicans were not happy with mccain, or teh choice of direction for teh party in 2008. The candidates saying Bush did a great job was being dishonest with the american people, let's be honest. I was a bush voter in 00 and 04, and mccain didn't get my vote in 08.
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Evolution is an excuse not to believe in Allah, and the prophet Mohammad. If you want to live your life eating food and defaming the name of him, go ahead, but you will not end up with 72 virgins.
jt
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
CLASS!
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Obama will be one of the worst Presidents in history. He's going to ruin America. But you probably are the type that think government exists to take care of people. You should realize this living in California. Do you realize just how fucking much your taxes are going to go up if Schwarzenazi passes the democratic budget and fee plan?
We did great under Bush
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I think those 3 packs of Kools per day keep Obama lean and mean
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Hey DickFace, Do you really want to talk politics.. And I can tell you are not a republican by the way you stated that you are a purebreed Republican. Your liberal thinking says other wise.
epic brain wash...Teh Alex is a Grown ass thinking man. Just because you would beleive anything the Repubs tell you to beleive dont make it right...Fuckin idiot..Look here dumbass...Remember what Chris Rock said "nobody's all one thing. Some things youre liberal on and somethings youre conservative on.." get a clue...Fucktard
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Are you a kneegrow socialist too?
No...Just a person with 2 eyes...Alls i said is we did great under Bush?
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yes yes yes.. all this blab, but no one is yet to ask where a 42 year old presidential candidate with an average build has the purpose and moreso the time to SHAVE up the chest?! I dropped doing that long ago. Around the same time i started working 40+ per week. i guess maybe hes just trying to look young. Further, im beginning to think the shaven chest is best left to the 21'ers whos female peers act disgusted with chest hair. I just cant get my head around it.
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His chest looks like he has utters.
Hi saggy!
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We did great under Bush
Hindsight is 20/20. Obama could end up being worse than Bush. So in your opinion it's ok if we have the lesser of two evils? ::) Plus you didn't comment on my statement regarding taxes in California. What's happening in California is symoblic of what is going to happen in greater America.
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Many Physical Evidences Contradict the “Billions of Years”
Of the methods that have been used to estimate the age of the earth, 90 percent point to an age far less than the billions of years asserted by evolutionists. A few of them follow.
lol! ;D
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yes yes yes.. all this blab, but no one is yet to ask where a 42 year old presidential candidate with an average build has the purpose and moreso the time to SHAVE up the chest?! I dropped doing that long ago. Around the same time i started working 40+ per week. i guess maybe hes just trying to look young. Further, im beginning to think the shaven chest is best left to the 21'ers whos female peers act disgusted with chest hair. I just cant get my head around it.
Damn g...Sounds like you put a lot of thought into Obamas Chest area. Got a lot of concern for what he does with his chest...which means
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Damn g...Sounds like you put a lot of thought into Obamas Chest area. Got a lot of concern for what he does with his chest...which means
Dear Mal. Are you listening to Joe Pass these days? It's christmas and all. Time for Jazz! ;D
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Funny how athieists think there's no "applied science" in Christianity. Hahahahaha!
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I believe in a creator/ higher power or energy which, hey, our feeble minds just cannot comprehend.
However I also believe he created this planet 4.6 billion years ago.
It's reasonable to believe in a creator, and at the same time accept the things that science has discovered. 400 years ago, we thought the Earth was the center of the universe. 400 years from now, we'll probably know a great deal more about the earth's origin. Was it created in 7 days, just 4000 years ago, and did man walk with dinosaurs? No, we have science which disproves that. however, we're just simple beings and the science behind it all is so complex - to believe we 'have figured it out' is beyond arrogant - it's ignorant.
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Dear Mal. Are you listening to Joe Pass these days? It's christmas and all. Time for Jazz! ;D
Yes I listen to Teh Pass...Tell me something. Have you heard of a Trombone Player named Jimmy Cleveland...I listened to him...he=virtuoso..Like seriously I would almost say he might be better than J.J. Johnson... :-X
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I believe in a creator/ higher power or energy which, hey, our feeble minds just cannot comprehend.
However I also believe he created this planet 4.6 billion years ago.
It's reasonable to believe in a creator, and at the same time accept the things that science has discovered. 400 years ago, we thought the Earth was the center of the universe. 400 years from now, we'll probably know a great deal more about the earth's origin. Was it created in 7 days, just 4000 years ago, and did man walk with dinosaurs? No, we have science which disproves that. however, we're just simple beings and the science behind it all is so complex - to believe we 'have figured it out' is beyond arrogant - it's ignorant.
Are you crazy...Palin said Dinosaurs....and man were chillin together...you dont listen to well HAHAHAHAHA
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lots of republicans were not happy with mccain, or teh choice of direction for teh party in 2008. The candidates saying Bush did a great job was being dishonest with the american people, let's be honest. I was a bush voter in 00 and 04, and mccain didn't get my vote in 08.
I was not a Bush supporter, but I didn't bash him either. Truman was not a popular President at the time and now he is one of the admired. Will Bush have that, probably not, but honestly I think he will be vindicated in the future somewhat. Obama will not be the person to fix everything. Alex is fooling himself.
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240, did you photoshop this
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ahahahaha alex destroying the simple tits in this thread.
HAHAHAHA as if man could survive with all the dinosaurs around ::)
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Obama will be one of the worst Presidents in history. He's going to ruin America. But you probably are the type that think government exists to take care of people. You should realize this living in California. Do you realize just how fucking much your taxes are going to go up if Schwarzenazi passes the democratic budget and fee plan?
i feel bad for the guy because he's taking over a country on the brink of the worst recession in several decades, which will of course be attributed to his leadership, not the buffoon/puppet who he is replacing.
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ahahahaha alex destroying the simple tits in this thread.
HAHAHAHA as if man could survive with all the dinosaurs around ::)
Yes....of course he did ::)
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Yes....of course he did ::)
Joe,
do you believe the earth is 4.6 billion years old?
Or 4000 years old?
Or somewhere in between?
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Yes....of course he did ::)
everytime you post you only dig your own hole deeper. you are part of a tiny fringe and everyone else is laughing at you :)
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Joe,
do you believe the earth is 4.6 billion years old?
Or 4000 years old?
Or somewhere in between?
No one knows for sure, but I would believe 6-10,000 more than I would 4.6 million.
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everytime you post you only dig your own hole deeper. you are part of a tiny fringe and everyone else is laughing at you :)
hahahahaha.........why, because athiests say so?
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No one knows for sure, but I would believe 6-10,000 more than I would 4.6 million.
;D
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Intresting read......
Do Numbers Count?
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Numbers - we all use them everyday. We use them in so many different ways. All too often, we are mesmerized by them. Numbers, however, are like technology, they are neutral; they are neither good nor bad.
It is only what people do with technology and numbers that is good or bad.
Evolutionists live and die by eight words: “Give me enough time, and anything can happen.” They make statements like: “If all the monkeys in the world were sitting at all the typewriters in the world, eventually they would produce the works of Shakespeare by random chance.”
This is all pure nonsense. It is only smoke and mirrors. This is the evolutionists’ use of stage magic to try and support a fairy tale for adults.
It doesn’t matter how much time you might have, some things simply will not happen in spite of all the faith you might have. For example, you will never throw the number seven (the most common combination of two die), with a fair pair of dice, 27 straight times. It is mathematically impossible. It will not happen by random chance; it cannot happen! Faith or no faith, it will not happen.
In general, the public has been dulled to the power of numbers. Evolutionists have taught in public schools that the earth and universe are millions and billions of years old. I certainly was taught that, and so many of us have so readily accepted it. Perhaps this is because we hear about the Federal and State governments having trillions of dollars in debt, or spending millions and billions of dollars for this or that. It all seems so plausible; after all we hear such numbers around us all the time. But, is it all that plausible?
Allow me to start off with a few simple examples to get a feel for the power of numbers like these. There are 3,600 seconds in an hour; or 86,400 seconds in a day; or about 31,557,600 seconds in a year. That means that I have already lived over 1,783,004,400 (1.78 billion) seconds. Gee, it doesn’t seem that long to me.
Of course, if the earth is about 6,000 years old it is only 189,345,600,000 (189 trillion) seconds old. On the other hand if it were as old as evolutionists say it is (4.6 billion years) then it is 14,516,496,000,000,000 seconds old. Well, this is just for fun. What do numbers like this actually teach us?
If I wanted to spend $1,000,000,000 in a year, I would have to spend $31.69 per second, or $114,077.12 per hour, or $2,737,851 per day. At 5% simple interest, the interest payment on 1,000,000,000 is $136,893 per day. That sounds downright unreasonable.
I would like to take you on a journey from the smallest time unit to the largest time unit and let’s see what we learn from the experience and how it applies to evolutionism and creationism.
The microscope was invented in 1590 and the telescope was invented in 1608. These instruments allow us to probe at opposite ends of the spectrum of length. At this time, the use of the latest equipment allows us to measure across 61 powers of ten. The longest length being the current estimated width of the universe (15 billion light-years: a light-year is about 6 trillion miles) called a Hubble length and named after the American astronomer Edwin Hubble. The smallest conceivable length is called a Planck length (0.00000000000000000 00000000000000016 centimeters) and is named after the physicist Max Planck.
The smallest time unit is the Planck time (yep, same guy) and is about 10 to the minus 43rd power of a second. The smallest usable time is called an attosecond (a billionth of a billionth of a second). We have made lasers that can emit a light burst for as little as 250 attoseconds. Going up one step in magnitude we have the femtosecond (a millionth of a billionth of a second). A single atom vibrates once in 10 to 100 femtoseconds. The chemical reaction in the human eye that allows us to see takes 200 femtoseconds to complete. Going up another step brings us to the picosecond (a thousandth of a billionth of a second). This is the arena in which transistor circuits work.
Next step up is the nanosecond (a billionth of a second). Light travels a little less than a foot in one nanosecond. Up again, we have the microsecond (a millionth of a second). Light travels about 1,000 feet in this time; while sound travels only one-third of a millimeter in that time. One step up brings us to the millisecond (a thousandth of a second). This is the shortest camera exposure. A housefly flaps its wings once every three milliseconds, but honeybees are a little slower taking five milliseconds. Our moon is slowing down two milliseconds per year in its orbit around the earth.
Next up we have hundredths, tenths and whole seconds. In a tenth of a second you can blink your eye and a hummingbird can beat its wings seven times. In a full second your heart beats once, the earth travels 18 miles in orbit around the sun, and the whole solar system travels 164.4 miles around the center of the galaxy. It takes a little more time, 1.3 seconds, for light to travel from the moon to the earth.
Well, now let’s go huge. In a minute a shrew’s heart beats 1,000 times and we speak between 150 to 250 words. It takes eight minutes for light to arrive from the sun. In one hour cells grow and divide once while it takes light reflected from Pluto five hours and 20 minutes to reach earth (it is really way out there). In one day your heart beats about 100,000 times, your lungs process about 11,000 liters of air. In a year the earth orbits the sun. It takes 4.3 years for light to travel from Proxima Centauri to earth.
In a century the moon moves away from the earth about 12.5 feet and your beloved CDs are expected to degrade. Next up is the millennia. After that, we go into the ether of evolutionary time frames.
The evolutionist talks about millions and billions of years as if they were real. But, have they ever measured such a time? No, most assuredly not!
According to evolutionists, if there had ever been a billion years, then it is the amount of time that it would have taken for the solar system to travel four times around the center of the galaxy; the earth to cool down to where life could begin; the oceans to develop; the first living cell to have developed; and, the atmosphere to change from a reducing one to an oxidizing one. As I said before, “this is all pure nonsense.”
Evolutionists believe that the earth is 4.6 billion years old. Using the known rate of recession of the moon from the earth, the moon would have been touching the surface of the earth only 1.4 billion years ago. Going back in time we would reach a point where the tides would rise over one mile high twice a day. Conversely, if the moon were in a suitable orbit and moved away at the known rate, the moon should now be out of sight. The circular orbit of the moon also proves that it has not been tugged into an elliptical orbit which it should have been if it were old.
Various other arguments follow proving that evolutionary time frames are fictitious. The earth is slowing down in its spin rate. Going back in time using evolutionary thought processes, the earth would spin faster and faster; but this would cause the land masses, which float on the molten core, to be located all along the equator - which they are not.
The surface of the earth is eroding primarily from water/ice action. At the current rate of erosion all the continents would be eroded flat in only 14 million years. Mount Everest is 29,000 feet high (348,000 inches). If it eroded only .02 of an inch per year it would be flat in only 14,000,000 years.
Using current rates of erosion, there is only 4,500 years worth of accumulated mud at the mouth of the Mississippi. This is also true of the Amazon, Congo, Indus, Ganges, Yangtze, Volga, et. al. If the Mississippi had been eroding the North American continent for millions of years, then the Gulf of Mexico would have been completely filled in by now, which it is not.
If we started with a zero amount, the current rate of Helium being released from the ground into the atmosphere would produce all the Helium in the atmosphere in only 2,000,000 years. The atmosphere cannot be 4.6 billion years old. If we started with some Helium, a reasonable assumption, then the atmosphere is much less than 2,000,000 years old and perfectly consistent with 6,000 years old.
Is evolution a reasonable, rational, evidence based faith? No! It is an unreasonable, irrational and non-evidence based faith.
Evolutionists use numbers in an attempt to make evolution sound reasonable. Creationists may use numbers to prove that creation, a recent creation, is true.
The truth is that: “Give me enough time and many things will still never happen.”
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No one knows for sure, but I would believe 6-10,000 more than I would 4.6 million.
Well, you either believe the bible, or you don't. Your answer is vague.
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Well, you either believe the bible, or you don't. Your answer is vague.
The bible doesn't specifically state the age of the earth. Could have been hanging around for a long time in between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:3. And I learned this on getbig!
Genesis 1:1-5
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2 Now the earth was [a] formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
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Intresting read......
Do Numbers Count?
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Numbers - we all use them everyday. We use them in so many different ways. All too often, we are mesmerized by them. Numbers, however, are like technology, they are neutral; they are neither good nor bad.
It is only what people do with technology and numbers that is good or bad.
Evolutionists live and die by eight words: “Give me enough time, and anything can happen.” They make statements like: “If all the monkeys in the world were sitting at all the typewriters in the world, eventually they would produce the works of Shakespeare by random chance.”
This is all pure nonsense. It is only smoke and mirrors. This is the evolutionists’ use of stage magic to try and support a fairy tale for adults.
It doesn’t matter how much time you might have, some things simply will not happen in spite of all the faith you might have. For example, you will never throw the number seven (the most common combination of two die), with a fair pair of dice, 27 straight times. It is mathematically impossible. It will not happen by random chance; it cannot happen! Faith or no faith, it will not happen.
In general, the public has been dulled to the power of numbers. Evolutionists have taught in public schools that the earth and universe are millions and billions of years old. I certainly was taught that, and so many of us have so readily accepted it. Perhaps this is because we hear about the Federal and State governments having trillions of dollars in debt, or spending millions and billions of dollars for this or that. It all seems so plausible; after all we hear such numbers around us all the time. But, is it all that plausible?
Allow me to start off with a few simple examples to get a feel for the power of numbers like these. There are 3,600 seconds in an hour; or 86,400 seconds in a day; or about 31,557,600 seconds in a year. That means that I have already lived over 1,783,004,400 (1.78 billion) seconds. Gee, it doesn’t seem that long to me.
Of course, if the earth is about 6,000 years old it is only 189,345,600,000 (189 trillion) seconds old. On the other hand if it were as old as evolutionists say it is (4.6 billion years) then it is 14,516,496,000,000,000 seconds old. Well, this is just for fun. What do numbers like this actually teach us?
If I wanted to spend $1,000,000,000 in a year, I would have to spend $31.69 per second, or $114,077.12 per hour, or $2,737,851 per day. At 5% simple interest, the interest payment on 1,000,000,000 is $136,893 per day. That sounds downright unreasonable.
I would like to take you on a journey from the smallest time unit to the largest time unit and let’s see what we learn from the experience and how it applies to evolutionism and creationism.
The microscope was invented in 1590 and the telescope was invented in 1608. These instruments allow us to probe at opposite ends of the spectrum of length. At this time, the use of the latest equipment allows us to measure across 61 powers of ten. The longest length being the current estimated width of the universe (15 billion light-years: a light-year is about 6 trillion miles) called a Hubble length and named after the American astronomer Edwin Hubble. The smallest conceivable length is called a Planck length (0.00000000000000000 00000000000000016 centimeters) and is named after the physicist Max Planck.
The smallest time unit is the Planck time (yep, same guy) and is about 10 to the minus 43rd power of a second. The smallest usable time is called an attosecond (a billionth of a billionth of a second). We have made lasers that can emit a light burst for as little as 250 attoseconds. Going up one step in magnitude we have the femtosecond (a millionth of a billionth of a second). A single atom vibrates once in 10 to 100 femtoseconds. The chemical reaction in the human eye that allows us to see takes 200 femtoseconds to complete. Going up another step brings us to the picosecond (a thousandth of a billionth of a second). This is the arena in which transistor circuits work.
Next step up is the nanosecond (a billionth of a second). Light travels a little less than a foot in one nanosecond. Up again, we have the microsecond (a millionth of a second). Light travels about 1,000 feet in this time; while sound travels only one-third of a millimeter in that time. One step up brings us to the millisecond (a thousandth of a second). This is the shortest camera exposure. A housefly flaps its wings once every three milliseconds, but honeybees are a little slower taking five milliseconds. Our moon is slowing down two milliseconds per year in its orbit around the earth.
Next up we have hundredths, tenths and whole seconds. In a tenth of a second you can blink your eye and a hummingbird can beat its wings seven times. In a full second your heart beats once, the earth travels 18 miles in orbit around the sun, and the whole solar system travels 164.4 miles around the center of the galaxy. It takes a little more time, 1.3 seconds, for light to travel from the moon to the earth.
Well, now let’s go huge. In a minute a shrew’s heart beats 1,000 times and we speak between 150 to 250 words. It takes eight minutes for light to arrive from the sun. In one hour cells grow and divide once while it takes light reflected from Pluto five hours and 20 minutes to reach earth (it is really way out there). In one day your heart beats about 100,000 times, your lungs process about 11,000 liters of air. In a year the earth orbits the sun. It takes 4.3 years for light to travel from Proxima Centauri to earth.
In a century the moon moves away from the earth about 12.5 feet and your beloved CDs are expected to degrade. Next up is the millennia. After that, we go into the ether of evolutionary time frames.
The evolutionist talks about millions and billions of years as if they were real. But, have they ever measured such a time? No, most assuredly not!
According to evolutionists, if there had ever been a billion years, then it is the amount of time that it would have taken for the solar system to travel four times around the center of the galaxy; the earth to cool down to where life could begin; the oceans to develop; the first living cell to have developed; and, the atmosphere to change from a reducing one to an oxidizing one. As I said before, “this is all pure nonsense.”
Evolutionists believe that the earth is 4.6 billion years old. Using the known rate of recession of the moon from the earth, the moon would have been touching the surface of the earth only 1.4 billion years ago. Going back in time we would reach a point where the tides would rise over one mile high twice a day. Conversely, if the moon were in a suitable orbit and moved away at the known rate, the moon should now be out of sight. The circular orbit of the moon also proves that it has not been tugged into an elliptical orbit which it should have been if it were old.
Various other arguments follow proving that evolutionary time frames are fictitious. The earth is slowing down in its spin rate. Going back in time using evolutionary thought processes, the earth would spin faster and faster; but this would cause the land masses, which float on the molten core, to be located all along the equator - which they are not.
The surface of the earth is eroding primarily from water/ice action. At the current rate of erosion all the continents would be eroded flat in only 14 million years. Mount Everest is 29,000 feet high (348,000 inches). If it eroded only .02 of an inch per year it would be flat in only 14,000,000 years.
Using current rates of erosion, there is only 4,500 years worth of accumulated mud at the mouth of the Mississippi. This is also true of the Amazon, Congo, Indus, Ganges, Yangtze, Volga, et. al. If the Mississippi had been eroding the North American continent for millions of years, then the Gulf of Mexico would have been completely filled in by now, which it is not.
If we started with a zero amount, the current rate of Helium being released from the ground into the atmosphere would produce all the Helium in the atmosphere in only 2,000,000 years. The atmosphere cannot be 4.6 billion years old. If we started with some Helium, a reasonable assumption, then the atmosphere is much less than 2,000,000 years old and perfectly consistent with 6,000 years old.
Is evolution a reasonable, rational, evidence based faith? No! It is an unreasonable, irrational and non-evidence based faith.
Evolutionists use numbers in an attempt to make evolution sound reasonable. Creationists may use numbers to prove that creation, a recent creation, is true.
The truth is that: “Give me enough time and many things will still never happen.”
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hahahahaha.........why, because athiests say so?
No, but because you're a steroid abusing midget who's been divorced a zillion times.
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he holds himself like hes a monster.
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Side triceps
good lord look at the size of his dong,must make all the flamers on here drool.....
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haahahahahahahahahaha
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he holds himself like hes a monster.
He and Bush need to hold an ILS posedown....
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LMAO @ Camel Toe. But this is getbig and you can say anything you want from 3000 miles away. Hahaha.
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(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/12/23/gal.obama2.gi.jpg)
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i feel bad for the guy because he's taking over a country on the brink of the worst recession in several decades, which will of course be attributed to his leadership, not the buffoon/puppet who he is replacing.
And his economic solutions of "weatherizing" millions of homes is such a wonderful idea? There's always an excuse. The economy is not in shambles because of one man. Hate Bush all you want. hate him for going to war, hate him for side stepping the constitution, but to lay blame on him for our economic woes is ignorant. He might have been better at enforcing rules and regulations etc. But greed and corruption is why we are in the situation we are in. NOt because of one man.
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And his economic solutions of "weatherizing" millions of homes is such a wonderful idea? There's always an excuse. The economy is not in shambles because of one man. Hate Bush all you want. hate him for going to war, hate him for side stepping the constitution, but to lay blame on him for our economic woes is ignorant. He might have been better at enforcing rules and regulations etc. But greed and corruption is why we are in the situation we are in. NOt because of one man.
QFT
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For all your Bible questions and answers or questions about evolution, please, Login to getbig.com. ;D you'll be amaze at what you'll learn
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The Coach is not to be reasoned with.
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The Coach is not to be reasoned with.
You call me names, make up lies about me and now you expect me to be reasonable?
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The CoachReligious zealots are not to be reasoned with.
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All you non religions and non Muslim dummies will burn in a fiery place while I laugh in Allah's arms, hahaha.
jt
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Then I guess Obama asking Rick Warren and him taking the oath on Lincolns Bible (or any Bible) makes him a religious zealot right?
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Then I guess Obama asking Rick Warren and him taking the oath on Lincolns Bible (or any Bible) makes him a religious zealot right?
LOL!
Pretty funny that you didn't mention anything about the very intolerant Warren when MCCAIN spoke at his forum during the 2008 presidential race ;)
Warren is about as Far-RIGHT as you could possibly imagine - you probably agree with 99.9% of his views joe. Have you read about him?
Warren was selected to piss off the far-left and extend an olive branch to the far-right... instead you have the far-right people acting OFFENDED that obama selected a gay-basher.
Heck, warren practically got Bush elected in 2004 by using his religious pulpit to push anti-stem cell, anti-abortion beliefs down his subscribers' throats, encouraging them to vote Bush, or vote evil lmao...
I could see the repubs being pissed, if obama chose some far-left loon to speak. but he chose a well-regarded CONSERVATIVE to speak. And still, repubs are crying about it.
Joe, who could possibly make you happy to speak at this event? He chose a far-right REPUB!
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Yes, I have heard Warren, in person at his church. I know right wing, thats no secret. But during that Q&A with Obama and McCain, he asked the same questions to both. Again Rob, stop with the spin.
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BTW, you never answered my question.
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i was there in hawaii this summer and there we find out OBAMA is gonna stay a few houses down from where we are in kailua beach. though still off limits from even that close, we saw OBAMA jogging down the beach with a few ss men and i dare say hes in better shape than ANY PRESIDENT EVER.
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I believe in a creator/ higher power or energy which, hey, our feeble minds just cannot comprehend.
speak for yourself there, bro
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Yes, I have heard Warren, in person at his church. I know right wing, thats no secret. But during that Q&A with Obama and McCain, he asked the same questions to both. Again Rob, stop with the spin.
why in the world would mcCain even show up at the same place as such an anti-gay guy like Warren?
I mean, if the dude is wrong, and obama is wrong to have him speak...
Why in the WORLD would mccain go to his event?
face it - The guy is an anti-gay republican religious leader, and that's okay - he's very open about what he believes in. Mccain AND Obama sucked up to the guy during the campaign. Mccain knew the guys' anti-gay beliefs. Now, you and other far-right people acting all OFFENDED at this guy who doesn't believe in gay rights, and it's hilarious.
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Your joking right?
I feek sorry for you dems will be in power for the next 20 years ;D
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Why must every thread turn into either politics, or Ronnie vs. Dorian?
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I feek sorry for you dems will be in power for the next 20 years ;D
Actually it's pretty safe to say we'll be back in power after the next election. Not worried in the least.
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Actually it's pretty safe to say we'll be back in power after the next election. Not worried in the least.
Only if Arnold runs will you
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Actually it's pretty safe to say we'll be back in power after the next election. Not worried in the least.
Are you just as sure about that, as you were about your 'source' claiming there was a 'whitey' tape?
Are you just as sure about that, as you were about your 'source' claiming the October surprise was proof that Obama was a Muslim?
Are you just as sure about that, as you were that Palin was the Beacon of Hope that would win it for Mccain (when it ended up costing him the election, as 60% of voters deemed her unqualified and 18% of 2004 repub voters just stayed home)?
The only thing it's "pretty safe" to bet on is that your predictions aren't that accurate. :(
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Are you just as sure about that, as you were about your 'source' claiming there was a 'whitey' tape?
Are you just as sure about that, as you were about your 'source' claiming the October surprise was proof that Obama was a Muslim?
Are you just as sure about that, as you were that Palin was the Beacon of Hope that would win it for Mccain (when it ended up costing him the election, as 60% of voters deemed her unqualified and 18% of 2004 repub voters just stayed home)?
The only thing it's "pretty safe" to bet on is that your predictions aren't that accurate. :(
Hahaha, never said anything about the "whitey" tape (because I'm quite sure is was covered up by the press) and I never said that about Palin. Nice try tho.
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Hahaha, never said anything about the "whitey" tape (because I'm quite sure is was covered up by the press) and I never said that about Palin. Nice try tho.
So you did say that about the "October surprise that obama is a muslim?
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Hahaha, never said anything about the "whitey" tape (because I'm quite sure is was covered up by the press) and I never said that about Palin. Nice try tho.
he didnt say that you bsaid those things in this thread, he was pointed out that in the past the thing you were "sure were gonna happen" = just didnt happen.
coach if your going t tak politics in a debate-like manner, at least learn how to debate.
wanna-be, sideline politicians with no sense for debate or principle really piss me off.
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the "whitey" tape (because I'm quite sure is was covered up by the press)
Why did FOX news, Rush limbaugh, Laura Ingram, Sean Hannity, and others all cover it us?
Joe, FOX is #1 in cable news and #3 in cable - they have a LOT of voters. The repubs would have won in 2008 if the 18% of repubs had just showed up and voted - Obama did not get the youth vote as hoped. He only won because repubs stayed home.
Since you blame the press for burying the whitey tape - why do you think FOX, Oreilly, Rush, and Hannity all took part in this conspiracy?
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240 or bust monster delusions, Obama got the youth vote, McCain and Palin were 2 dried up sacks of shit that don't know how to campaign.
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So you did say that about the "October surprise that obama is a muslim?
He is, he went to a muslim school and since NEVER renounced his muslim faith. Also, there is no hard evidence of his birth in Hawaii (exept the one online) no one has ever seen the hard copy physically even when asked he didn't produce it. There are only 2 qualifications for being president, 1. Be 35 or over and 2. Be born in the US and prove it. He can't prove it.
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The Coach is not to be reasoned with.
He don't have the brainpower to sufficiently reason with the brightest of Getbig, like yourself.
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He don't have the brainpower to sufficiently reason with the brightest of Getbig, like yourself.
Yes, like you, he's a genius ::)
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240 or bust monster delusions, Obama got the youth vote, McCain and Palin were 2 dried up sacks of shit that don't know how to campaign.
jt
18% of repub 2004 voters didn't show up.
Obama didn't get major youth turnout improvement from 2004.
He won because repubs thought palin was incompetent. it's that simple. Mccain was LEADING on Sept 11th - she did the Couric interview and... you know the rest ;)
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Yes, like you, he's a genius ::)
Depussey = a retard with an IQ of 52. Camel Jockey = more than twice as clever as that.
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He is, he went to a muslim school and since NEVER renounced his muslim faith. Also, there is no hard evidence of his birth in Hawaii (exept the one online) no one has ever seen the hard copy physically even when asked he didn't produce it. There are only 2 qualifications for being president, 1. Be 35 or over and 2. Be born in the US and prove it. He can't prove it.
The state of hawaii says the birth cert is real.
Are they part of this grand conspiracy, along with Rush, hannity, NBC, OReilly, Olbermann, etc?
Are they ALL in on it, joe?
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The state of hawaii says the birth cert is real.
Are they part of this grand conspiracy, along with Rush, hannity, NBC, OReilly, Olbermann, etc?
Are they ALL in on it, joe?
Why debate with a cognitively impaired moron who believes in a great pie in the sky?
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Why debate with a cognitively impaired moron who believes in a great pie in the sky?
It passes the time.
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18% of repub 2004 voters didn't show up.
Obama didn't get major youth turnout improvement from 2004.
He won because repubs thought palin was incompetent. it's that simple. Mccain was LEADING on Sept 11th - she did the Couric interview and... you know the rest ;)
The majority of people who voted for Obama didn't know why the were voting for him.
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The state of hawaii says the birth cert is real.
Are they part of this grand conspiracy, along with Rush, hannity, NBC, OReilly, Olbermann, etc?
Are they ALL in on it, joe?
Doesn't mean shit until it's in hand and verified. No one has seen the hard copy of that cert, it's locked away in a safe.
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Doesn't mean shit until it's in hand and verified. No one has seen the hard copy of that cert, it's locked away in a safe.
The state of hawaii verifies they saw it, and it's legitimate.
Do you believe an entire state is engaging in this grand conspiracy you speak of?
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The state of hawaii verifies they saw it, and it's legitimate.
Do you believe an entire state is engaging in this grand conspiracy you speak of?
LOL........it's a liberal state. Yes, they are covering it, if they were not they would release THE HARD COPY........no one has ever seen the hard copy. I can't get my kid into Little League without a birth certificate let alone be president.
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LOL........it's a liberal state. Yes, they are covering it
You do know that you are officially a conspiracy theorist now, Joe.
You believe the vast media machine, as well as an entire US state, are working to hide info about Obama.
You do know that you post things like "screwball" when people here question the official account of some events. Yet you really believe that the entire media, as well as at least one entire state, are all in on some evil plan to circumvent the Constitution and put a non-eligible person into office.
The Coach = CTer by definition :)
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You do know that you are officially a conspiracy theorist now, Joe.
You believe the vast media machine, as well as an entire US state, are working to hide info about Obama.
You do know that you post things like "screwball" when people here question the official account of some events. Yet you really believe that the entire media, as well as at least one entire state, are all in on some evil plan to circumvent the Constitution and put a non-eligible person into office.
The Coach = CTer by definition :)
LMAO......when he brings the original birth cert to the appropriate people for verification, then I will concede. If it's legit Rob, then he should have no problems proving it. I have mine and my families in a safty deposit box at my bank, I can produce mine anytime.
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LMAO......when he brings the original birth cert to the appropriate people for verification, then I will concede. If it's legit Rob, then he should have no problems proving it. I have mine and my families in a safty deposit box at my bank, I can produce mine anytime.
It's your word against a state's.
I'm not saying you're right or wrong - I have no clue.
What I'm saying is that the state of Hawaii says it's a valid document.
Joe Coach says it's not.
To believe you means we have to believe thousands or millions of people are in on some vast left-wing conspiracy to essentially destroy the Constitution at the highest level.
It's quite a theory you have there, about this conspiracy you believe is occuring.
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It's your word against a state's.
I'm not saying you're right or wrong - I have no clue.
What I'm saying is that the state of Hawaii says it's a valid document.
Joe Coach says it's not.
To believe you means we have to believe thousands or millions of people are in on some vast left-wing conspiracy to essentially destroy the Constitution at the highest level.
It's quite a theory you have there, about this conspiracy you believe is occuring.
No, all I have to believe is the person (at this stage a court of law) that verifies the original document. Seriously, if he has nothing to hide, then why isn't he showing it? There's no conspiracy.
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No, all I have to believe is the person (at this stage a court of law) that verifies the original document. Seriously, if he has nothing to hide, then why isn't he showing it? There's no conspiracy.
He showed it to the state as he was required to legally do.
He followed the law. I suppose you could ask Congress to change the law, joe, so that the theory you have of a vast conspiracy could be checked.
So you believe ONE PERSON committed fraud on this document - but an entire state, and the entire media system, are all "playing ball" and being complicit in this crime?
It's a heck of a theory you have, without any evidence.
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lol the republicans when desperate and out of power are almost funny in how stupid they sound.
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lol the republicans when desperate and out of power are almost funny in how stupid they sound.
jt
Are you saying the vast left-wing conspiracy to defraud the Constitution isn't true?
Are you saying ONE UNNAMED GUY in hawaii didn't falsify a birth certificate?
Are you saying TEN THOUSAND media heads aren't participating in this giant cover-up?
Are you saying an ENTIRE STATE isn't so liberal they are allowing this lie to go on?
Cause while your belief matches the facts, it doesn't match this theory of a massive conspiracy, that joe believes. True, he has no evidence. And true, Obama followed the law and has the right documentation. But something inside Joe tells him that things aren't as they seem. He's dusting off his tinfoil hat, and he's going to prove them all wrong. Sure, the odds are 310 million to one, but that's just how Joe likes it. Those are his kinda odds...
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Are you saying the vast left-wing conspiracy to defraud the Constitution isn't true?
Are you saying ONE UNNAMED GUY in hawaii didn't falsify a birth certificate?
Are you saying TEN THOUSAND media heads aren't participating in this giant cover-up?
Are you saying an ENTIRE STATE isn't so liberal they are allowing this lie to go on?
Cause while your belief matches the facts, it doesn't match this theory of a massive conspiracy, that joe believes. True, he has no evidence. And true, Obama followed the law and has the right documentation. But something inside Joe tells him that things aren't as they seem. He's dusting off his tinfoil hat, and he's going to prove them all wrong. Sure, the odds are 310 million to one, but that's just how Joe likes it. Those are his kinda odds...
FAIL!
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I don't care about this Obama stuff either way, but just to play devils advocate for a minute; 240 i may be wrong but you believe that the goverment conspired to play out the biggest terroist attack in US history. 3000+ dead and countless people in branches of govermennt knew about it, but somehow no one has ever came out and defintley said as such. That's tin foil hat worthy IMO as well.
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I don't care about this Obama stuff either way, but just to play devils advocate for a minute; 240 i may be wrong but you believe that the goverment conspired to play out the biggest terroist attack in US history. 3000+ dead and countless people in branches of govermennt knew about it, but somehow no one has ever came out and defintley said as such. That's tin foil hat worthy IMO as well.
Not true......Keith Olberman said so ;D
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I don't care about this Obama stuff either way, but just to play devils advocate for a minute; 240 i may be wrong but you believe that the goverment conspired to play out the biggest terroist attack in US history. 3000+ dead and countless people in branches of govermennt knew about it, but somehow no one has ever came out and defintley said as such. That's tin foil hat worthy IMO as well.
I concur with the two co-chairs of the 911 commission who have publicly stated that their original work, the 911 commission report, is very incomplete and that a second investigation is greatly needed in light of all of the information and analysis which has come to light.
There is a lot of confusion about who knew about the attacks beforehand - and a lot of that critical document from August 5th, 01 was blacked out.
The authors of the 911 document say it needs re-studied, so i tend to roll with them in this belief. If some folks stand by the original story, even when the authors don't, I don't know what to say.
Joe has mocked me for this, for the last 2 years.
Today, he has a theory of a grand conspiracy involving the media, an entire state, etc. he has no proof. Yet he just knows, deep in his gut, that he's right.
That's a conspiracy theory.
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I concur with the two co-chairs of the 911 commission who have publicly stated that their original work, the 911 commission report, is very incomplete and that a second investigation is greatly needed in light of all of the information and analysis which has come to light.
There is a lot of confusion about who knew about the attacks beforehand - and a lot of that critical document from August 5th, 01 was blacked out.
The authors of the 911 document say it needs re-studied, so i tend to roll with them in this belief. If some folks stand by the original story, even when the authors don't, I don't know what to say.
Joe has mocked me for this, for the last 2 years.
Today, he has a theory of a grand conspiracy involving the media, an entire state, etc. he has no proof. Yet he just knows, deep in his gut, that he's right.
That's a conspiracy theory.
Funny, neither does Obama.
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Funny, neither does Obama.
The state says he does.
Again, it is your gut feeling, against the word of a state that has verified the document.
You're a conspiracy theorist, dude. You have a theory which goes against official stated policy.
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The state says he does.
Again, it is your gut feeling, against the word of a state that has verified the document.
You're a conspiracy theorist, dude. You have a theory which goes against official stated policy.
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The majority of people who voted for Obama didn't know why the were voting for him.
Because the new Republican morons couldn't be trusted with the country. They'd have fucked it up even worse than the old ones.
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Because the new Republican morons couldn't be trusted with the country. They'd have fucked it up even worse than the old ones.
What the hell does that have to do with people not knowing why they voted for Obama? Take a look at the youtube I posted.
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What the hell does that have to do with people not knowing why they voted for Obama? Take a look at the youtube I posted.
It means that they know why they voted for Obama. To keep the country away from the two new Republican morons.
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It means that they know why they voted for Obama. To keep the country away from the two new Republican morons.
Nice, go from bad to worse? Congress has a 12% approval rating so what happends? They vote for their own :-\
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Funny how athieists think there's no "applied science" in Christianity. Hahahahaha!
funny how most republicans go to church and engage in homosexual behavior, but claim they are conservative..
tell them coach?
a little more about yourself, and how you were a lapdog for a certain muscled man when you were still a teen?
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Nice, go from bad to worse? Congress has a 12% approval rating so what happends? They vote for their own :-\
Really, one couldn't have failed the county more than by voting for the two Republican morons. Sad but true.
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The state of hawaii verifies they saw it, and it's legitimate.
Do you believe an entire state is engaging in this grand conspiracy you speak of?
I was born and raised on Oahu. From where I sit (OK, sprawled out on the couch in my underwear straining to type one handed on my lap top) Team Obama is less than 4 miles away and I haven't seen no goddamn birth certificate.
BTW Coach, we're not a liberal state. It's socialist, buddy. Socialist. Get it right!
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hes a skinny tit.
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hes a skinny tit.
haha, yes Mars. This thread is getting way off track. Lets focus on the 12" guns and ILS. hahaah
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haha, yes Mars. This thread is getting way off track. Lets focus on the 12" guns and ILS. hahaah
happy christmas showstoppaaahhhh!!!!!!!!
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happy christmas showstoppaaahhhh!!!!!!!!
Merry Christmas to you too Mars. I'm off to eat enough food for an army. Hope you have a great day!
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haha me2, fucking overload of steak and chicken, im living the dream.
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funny how most republicans go to church and engage in homosexual behavior, but claim they are conservative..
tell them coach?
a little more about yourself, and how you were a lapdog for a certain muscled man when you were still a teen?
They do?? Since when?
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They do?? Since when?
You figure out a time for that thing in the sand yet?
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coach, merry christmas, you crazy conspiracy theorist!
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coach, merry christmas, you crazy conspiracy theorist!
Thanks, same to you and your family :D
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You figure out a time for that thing in the sand yet?
Looking at between 10-12am. I have to confirm with the City. You have to make reservations for 14 people and over.
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The state of hawaii verifies they saw it, and it's legitimate.
Do you believe an entire state is engaging in this grand conspiracy you speak of?
And do you believe the whole state saw it or even has anything to do with anything about it. Hey if state can fuck up a whole election by not being able to count ballots and allow voters named Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck to register to vote then anything is possible....right? And if you didn't know only a few run that whole state. There are a few people their who can get anything done they want without the entire state knowing anything about it or having any say so in it. And, of course Hawaii is going to say it is real. Hawaii has a lot to benefit from Obama being in office. Or do you not know this or realize it.
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obama looks lean in that pic,he looks like he tries to eat right and gets in alittle resistance training
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he hold himself like hes ronnnie coleman or something with these tough glasses on haha. what a tool.
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GGGGGGGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAA AYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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Not as gay as bumping a two year old thread. You need mental help. Obama and 240 own your mind sissy boy.
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Not as gay as bumping a two year old thread. You need mental help. Obama and 240 own your mind sissy boy.
240's belongs to Palin...
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Just the issues!
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All Im seeing is string bean calves, boloney tits/bird chest, and back looks like a wet fucking blanket
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All Im seeing is string bean calves, boloney tits/bird chest, and back looks like a wet fucking blanket
Looks like an alien like his wife
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Looks like an alien like his wife
lol - that's pretty funny.