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Poundstone is a beast, can't even imagine the all over total body fatigue after this set, brutal.
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He'll go very far in wsm. Amazing debut, he had.
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(http://bighugelabs.com/flickr/output/motivator5236025.jpg)
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crazy and lol at the bitches lining up behind him to check it out. Their "boyfriends" must have been busy with crossover/pushup supersets.
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all MHP ;D
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crazy and lol at the bitches lining up behind him to check it out. Their "boyfriends" must have been busy with crossover/pushup supersets.
hahaha, here's some moderately weighted presses behind the neck by Derek. ;D
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crazy and lol at the bitches lining up behind him to check it out. Their "boyfriends" must have been busy with crossover/pushup supersets.
Aint that the truth. ;D
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Who watched the WSM?
He will dominate if he stays fit! Not even full time SM!!!!
excellent prospect
ta ta
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Poundstone is a beast, can't even imagine the all over total body fatigue after this set, brutal.
some great thick sluts in the background
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Well we don't lifting for strenght. ;)
For example:
I started working out at 15 (at around 120 lbs). For maybe 2 years I just lifting for strenght...because at that time I can't imagined that one day I can be look like a bodybuilding competitor.
And when I first time did deadlifts I can lift 245.
Then when I was 17 I could deadlift 530 (in 2000) And I was natural without arms, delts, back. After that period I was just lifting for build muscle and sometimes I tested my strenght too.
My best deadlift set was 4-5 x 550 in 2006 and 2007. So in 6-7 years there isn't a big development in the deadlift...but my back and my whole body totally changed.
If I wanted to be very good at deadlift I believe that now I could do around 750 without any problem. But that's not my goal.
;)
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Well we don't lifting for strenght. ;)
For example:
I started working out at 15 (at around 120 lbs). For maybe 2 years I just lifting for strenght...because at that time I can't imagined that one day I can be look like a bodybuilding competitor.
And when I first time did deadlifts I can lift 245.
Then when I was 17 I could deadlift 530 (in 2000) And I was natural without arms, delts, back. After that period I was just lifting for build muscle and sometimes I tested my strenght too.
My best deadlift set was 4-5 x 550 in 2006 and 2007. So in 6-7 years there isn't a big development in the deadlift...but my back and my whole body totally changed.
If I wanted to be very good at deadlift I believe that now I could do around 750 without any problem. But that's not my goal.
;)
hahahahahaa, another monster in waiting with the time tested, "if i trained for strength i'd be deadlifting 750 easy but i choose to look good and just pull 225 for sets of 12". ;D
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"I just go for the health look now and don't want to destroy my joints so I do 315 for sets of 10 suppersetted with 2 plate smith machine frontsquats" ::)
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this should put to rest the myth that strongmen and powerlifters can't get hot girls. ::)
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And when I first time did deadlifts I can lift 245.
What a BEAST
::)
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Pretty beastly - how tall is he...
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hahahahahaa, another monster in waiting with the time tested, "if i trained for strength i'd be deadlifting 750 easy but i choose to look good and just pull 225 for sets of 12". ;D
You would have to agree that BBers do a different workout and have different goals than PLers.......BUT to try to predict what you could lift if you had trained for it is ridiculous.
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You would have to agree that BBers do a different workout and have different goals than PLers.......BUT to try to predict what you could lift if you had trained for it is ridiculous.
yeah that was my point is that these guys all pick some crazy high number when they predict what they could lift if "they trained specifically for it", dude couldn't ROLL 750 if his life depended on it, no offense.
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Poundstone is a beast, can't even imagine the all over total body fatigue after this set, brutal.
yet, no matter the intensity, hes still fat.
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yeah that was my point is that these guys all pick some crazy high number when they predict what they could lift if "they trained specifically for it", dude couldn't ROLL 750 if his life depended on it, no offense.
That's what gets me about anyone predicting their one rep max, you never know until you actually lift it.
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yeah that was my point is that these guys all pick some crazy high number when they predict what they could lift if "they trained specifically for it", dude couldn't ROLL 750 if his life depended on it, no offense.
::)
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hahahahahaa, another monster in waiting with the time tested, "if i trained for strength i'd be deadlifting 750 easy but i choose to look good and just pull 225 for sets of 12". ;D
Now it's clear...and not for the first time...that you don't know too much about weight training. No problem, just I can't understand that if this is a fact then why do pick at me...
1. I'm not one of your skinny buddy from the gym
2. I didn't write anything agressive against you
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What a BEAST
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For example:
I started working out at 15 (at around 120 lbs). For maybe 2 years I just lifting for strenght...because at that time I can't imagined that one day I can be look like a bodybuilding competitor.
And when I first time did deadlifts I can lift 245.
Learn read first...then start the writing.
;)
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Now it's clear...and not for the first time...that you don't know too much about weight training. No problem, just I can't understand that if this is a fact then why do pick at me...
1. I'm not one of your skinny buddy from the gym
2. I didn't write anything agressive against you
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I'll help you with this one.
Guys like quaker or chaos , etc..like to talk shit to you just so you get mad and respond.
Just to get a raise out of you.
Like guys who like to talk a lot and criticize non stop.
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this should put to rest the myth that strongmen and powerlifters can't get hot girls. ::)
LOL, trying to impress the chicks by going down a water slide, any undersized, weakling snot nosed 6 year old brat could survive........ ::)
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I'll help you with this one.
Guys like quaker or chaos , etc..like to talk shit to you just so you get mad and respond.
Just to get a raise out of you.
Like guys who like to talk a lot and criticize non stop.
Where did I criticize Steve?
I guess if you knew anything at all, you wouldn't always be wrong.
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Where did I criticize Steve?
I guess if you knew anything at all, you wouldn't always be wrong.
didn'y you agreewith quaker?
he talks shit just to get Steve riled up...
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crazy and lol at the bitches lining up behind him to check it out. Their "boyfriends" must have been busy with crossover/pushup supersets.
LOL!!
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Well we don't lifting for strenght. ;)
For example:
I started working out at 15 (at around 120 lbs). For maybe 2 years I just lifting for strenght...because at that time I can't imagined that one day I can be look like a bodybuilding competitor.
And when I first time did deadlifts I can lift 245.
Then when I was 17 I could deadlift 530 (in 2000) And I was natural without arms, delts, back. After that period I was just lifting for build muscle and sometimes I tested my strenght too.
My best deadlift set was 4-5 x 550 in 2006 and 2007. So in 6-7 years there isn't a big development in the deadlift...but my back and my whole body totally changed.
If I wanted to be very good at deadlift I believe that now I could do around 750 without any problem. But that's not my goal.
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So you deadlifted 530 pounds when you were 17, and since then your best set has only been 4 reps for 550? I don't get it, most people get alot stronger in their twenties compared to when they were only 17.
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haha i love how "Quakeroats", "praises" fat "strongmen".
says a lot about his "physique". ::)
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haha i love how "Quakeroats", "praises" fat "strongmen".
says a lot about his "physique". ::)
That guy is fat?
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haha i love how "Quakeroats", "praises" fat "strongmen".
says a lot about his "physique". ::)
He's 313 @ 9%. Hope this helps. ::)
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I'll help you with this one.
Guys like quaker or chaos , etc..like to talk shit to you just so you get mad and respond.
Just to get a raise out of you.
Like guys who like to talk a lot and criticize non stop.
OK, I know it...I just sometimes can't understand their "style"... ::) :)
Anyway I also don't remember any fight between chaos and me... ;)
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He's 313 @ 9%. Hope this helps. ::)
yea and im 400 @ 3%. ::)
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yea and im 400 @ 3%. ::)
Where's your pic?
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yet, no matter the intensity, hes still fat.
hes not fat
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OK, I know it...I just sometimes can't understand their "style"... ::) :)
Anyway I also don't remember any fight between chaos and me... ;)
Hey bro I asked you a simple question. No disrespect, in fact I am one of your hugest fans and would like to keep a little correspondence between the two of us. You must have been a major badass, junior year with those kinds of deadlift numbers.
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yea and im 400 @ 3%. ::)
::) You must be absolutely munzer striated if you think this guy is fat.
(http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/64/l_de70379f684643a5a4912bfd41a1f60b.jpg)
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So you deadlifted 530 pounds when you were 17, and since then your best set has only been 4 reps for 550? I don't get it, most people get alot stronger in their twenties compared to when they were only 17.
Well now I think that the deadlifts with huge weigths are not necessary for bodybuilding and not working for everyone to build big back. So again: I can be waaay stronger in deadlift today especially because I was pretty strong in deadlift even at 17 natural...but this is not my goal.
But here's another example:
When I was 17, my max. bench around 280... This week I did 6 reps on the incline with 405. And why this huge development? Because I think it's necessary to use big weights at the pushing movements for chest if you want huge and round pecs. And my chest is one of my weak points so I train it really hard.
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Well now I think that the deadlifts with huge weigths are not necessary for bodybuilding and not working for everyone to build big back. So again: I can be waaay stronger in deadlift today especially because I was pretty strong in deadlift even at 17 natural...but this is not my goal.
But here's another example:
When I was 17, my max. bench around 280... This week I did 6 reps on the incline with 405. And why this huge development? Because I think it's necessary to use big weights at the pushing movements for chest if you want huge and round pecs. And my chest is one of my weak points so I train it really hard.
You can deadlift more now than you could when you were 17 years old.
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Don't upset the Midget or that Little Fukka will post 100s of pics of himself he is so use to doing it for Schmoes it comes natural to him.Namat why so aggressive??? you Little guys should lighten the Fuk up.Now Tenpin Bowling is calling you. :-\
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didn'y you agreewith quaker?
he talks shit just to get Steve riled up...
I agree with him in the sense of people estimating what they could lift, "if they had continued with that type of lifting"
Like I said two different styles of lifting, but trying to guess what you could've lifted is bullshit. No way to tell unless you actually do it.
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::) You must be absolutely munzer striated if you think this guy is fat.
(http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/64/l_de70379f684643a5a4912bfd41a1f60b.jpg)
they are ugly as fuck anyway, 90% of all women will first judge somone by their face THEN their physique, so these guys would be fucked at the first hurdle. Also the 10% of women that do go with a guy who has a body like that no matter how ugly he is usually are sluts/testosterone fueled beasts.
p.s the guy on the left has gyno and estrogenous fat around his pecs, look at his lower pec compared to mariusz.
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they are ugly as fuck anyway, 90% of all women will first judge somone by their face THEN their physique, so these guys would be fucked at the first hurdle. Also the 10% of women that do go with a guy who has a body like that no matter how ugly he is usually are sluts/testosterone fueled beasts.
p.s the guy on the left has gyno and estrogenous fat around his pecs, look at his lower pec compared to mariusz.
So 90% of women would not even think about hooking up with them, and the other 10% would have to be slut/test fueled bitches.
That leaves 0% of fairly attractive, decent women left for these two fellas. Boy are they fucked. They ain't ever gonna get laid by a normal woman!!
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Prison served Mariusz well.Fukka is as Strong as hell.
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mariuz is a fucking tank. :o
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So 90% of women would not even think about hooking up with them, and the other 10% would have to be slut/test fueled bitches.
That leaves 0% of fairly attractive, decent women left for these two fellas. Boy are they fucked. They ain't ever gonna get laid by a normal woman!!
that is correct
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they are ugly as fuck anyway, 90% of all women will first judge somone by their face THEN their physique, so these guys would be fucked at the first hurdle. Also the 10% of women that do go with a guy who has a body like that no matter how ugly he is usually are sluts/testosterone fueled beasts.
p.s the guy on the left has gyno and estrogenous fat around his pecs, look at his lower pec compared to mariusz.
wow, you must have model-looks and a "visible" jawline. ::)
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yet, no matter the intensity, hes still fat.
post up your picture and show him what shredded really is then. ::)
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Well now I think that the deadlifts with huge weigths are not necessary for bodybuilding and not working for everyone to build big back. So again: I can be waaay stronger in deadlift today especially because I was pretty strong in deadlift even at 17 natural...but this is not my goal.
But here's another example:
When I was 17, my max. bench around 280... This week I did 6 reps on the incline with 405. And why this huge development? Because I think it's necessary to use big weights at the pushing movements for chest if you want huge and round pecs. And my chest is one of my weak points so I train it really hard.
bullshit on the 405x6 incline. ::)
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I know it was Poundstones first WSM comp, impressive as hell, but I can't remember how old they said he was. Anyone remember? If he is on the younger side I could definetly see him challenging Mariusz record. Looked real good in his first attempt.
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I couldn't roll 405!
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I couldn't roll 405!
you're pretty strong yourself, Caribbean Conqueror. :D
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you're pretty strong yourself, Caribbean Conqueror. :D
I look average now but you'd piss yourself if I had pics from 2002. I was 150lbs fully dressed when the divorce shit started, LOL!
By "fully dressed" I mean work clothes with shoes, LOL!
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bullshit on the 405x6 incline. ::)
This is tells me that you use less weight at this exercise... :D
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This is tells me that you use less weight at this exercise... :D
you're right i can't do that but do you have any proof of you doing it? if so post it up, i'd love to see it.
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Dave go easy on the Little guy his Ego is Brittle. :'(
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Most bodybuilders wouldn't have a chance trying to do that. That being said he would get his ass kicked if he was competing in a bodybuilding contest. Two totally different sports despite both involving a lot of weight training.
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So this guy can incline 405 for 6 reps but claims his chest is a weak point?!!
Holy shit am I weak :-\ Maybe he needs more/better drugs?
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you're right i can't do that but do you have any proof of you doing it? if so post it up, i'd love to see it.
I don't have a video about the 405 on incline yet...but maybe you already know that I'm the presenter of the only hungarian bodybuilding TV show called 'Gyurma' (www.gyurma.net)... And we had an episode (April 2008) when I did a 8 x 405 bench press. And that was in April 2008... ;)
Here is the download link for the episode:
http://gyurma.net/musorok/2008%20adas%204.avi (290 MB)
My bench press starts at 5:43.
And some pics about that workout...
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Is that the Gym in the Nepliget? and is that Lantos in the back round?
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I agree with him in the sense of people estimating what they could lift, "if they had continued with that type of lifting"
Like I said two different styles of lifting, but trying to guess what you could've lifted is bullshit. No way to tell unless you actually do it.
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If you had any common sense you would realize that Steve could easily do 750 if he trained for deadlift .
But you were just being a punk ass bitch doing what all you retards do : trying to fuck with a pro in hopes of him melting down.
This is the reason this board is full of retards like you and him and it bothers me cause I come here for bodybuilding and Namat is chock full of knowledge .
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bullshit on the 405x6 incline. ::)
here you go again ...you have like a little device up your ass that starts vibrating whenever someone posts a lifting claim ... it signals you to be a jackass.
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Hahaha QuakerOats is brutally owned again.
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here you go again ...you have like a little device up your ass that starts vibrating whenever someone posts a lifting claim ... it signals you to be a jackass.
Exactly. I don't understand the frustration of this fatty. WHo de fuck does he think he is? Because 1. he can't do the lift and 2. he thinks you can't do the lift you have to proof that you can do the lift? Verry logical ::)
Steve Namet (IFBB Pro bb) make's the effort to post on the g/o board and out of the blue he gett's attacked. Maby fatty forgot that 405 for an Pro bb isn't that acqward.
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If you had any common sense you would realize that Steve could easily do 750 if he trained for deadlift .
But you were just being a punk ass bitch doing what all you retards do : trying to fuck with a pro in hopes of him melting down.
This is the reason this board is full of retards like you and him and it bothers me cause I come here for bodybuilding and Namat is chock full of Mancum and STEROIDS.
Point well taken. :-\
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here you go again ...you have like a little device up your ass that starts vibrating whenever someone posts a lifting claim ... it signals you to be a jackass.
haha
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i think with a name like "Poundstone" the guy was destined to be a machine, those log lifts looked so animal i would love to be that strong one day
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here you go again ...you have like a little device up your ass that starts vibrating whenever someone posts a lifting claim ... it signals you to be a jackass.
Haha ;D
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Is that the Gym in the Nepliget? and is that Lantos in the back round?
Yes. Now the name of the gym is Johnny Fitness.
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If you had any common sense you would realize that Steve could easily do 750 if he trained for deadlift .
But you were just being a punk ass bitch doing what all you retards do : trying to fuck with a pro in hopes of him melting down.
This is the reason this board is full of retards like you and him and it bothers me cause I come here for bodybuilding and Namat is chock full of knowledge .
Settle down pussy, you're getting all riled up over nothing, as usual. ::)
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NO
If you had any common sense you would realize that Steve could easily do 750 if he trained for deadlift .
But you were just being a punk ass bitch doing what all you retards do : trying to fuck with a pro in hopes of him melting down.
This is the reason this board is full of retards like you and him and it bothers me cause I come here for bodybuilding and Namat is chock full of knowledge .
Have you been bitten by this site's schmoe bug?
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Hahaha QuakerOats is brutally owned again.
how could i be owned when Steve didn't post video of the lift he claimed yet, if he does i'll admit i was wrong.
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Steves a tank, anybody who takes a look at that upper body in the top pic, and doubts him, and call him out over his ability to rep out 405 a few times on the incline is showing his colors as an over the hill, past his prime poster.
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Steves a tank, anybody who takes a look at that upper body in the top pic, and doubts him, and call him out over his ability to rep out 405 a few times on the incline is showing his colors as an over the hill, past his prime poster.
well then it should be easy enough for him to AT LEAST post a picture of himself doing it or better yet a video clip. :D
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well then it should be easy enough for him to AT LEAST post a picture of himself doing it or better yet a video clip. :D
Hate to agree with him Steve, but Quaker does have a point. We are going to have to see a vid, bro. You can't just come on this site spouting off lift claims without backing them up, that shit just ain't gonna fly.
And by the way, I still got a bone to pick with you over your claim that you can deadlift more at the age of 17 than you can now, that ain't gonna cut it.
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Prison served Mariusz well.Fukka is as Strong as hell.
what did he go to prison for?
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Hate to agree with him Steve, but Quaker does have a point. We are going to have to see a vid, bro. You can't just come on this site spouting off lift claims without backing them up, that shit just ain't gonna fly.
And by the way, I still got a bone to pick with you over your claim that you can deadlift more at the age of 17 than you can now, that ain't gonna cut it.
let me put it another way, Coleman on Cost of Redemption at 305 pounds did 405 for 7-8 on his own and Steve is claiming practically the same thing, makes you wonder. ::)
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let me put it another way, Coleman on Cost of Redemption at 305 pounds did 405 for 7-8 on his own and Steve is claiming practically the same thing, makes you wonder. ::)
Basically Steve is claiming to lift on the incline as much as an offseason, prime Ronnie Coleman.
Steve, again I am your biggest fan, I've bought all your magazine articles, and subscribed to all your interviews on the net but we get the occasional big shot who likes to come in here and "embelish" their lifts by a few pounds here and there. In the spirit of preservation I'm gonna have to side with Quaker and DEMAND a vid.
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well then it should be easy enough for him to AT LEAST post a picture of himself doing it or better yet a video clip. :D
I don't have a video about the 405 on incline yet...but maybe you already know that I'm the presenter of the only hungarian bodybuilding TV show called 'Gyurma' (www.gyurma.net)... And we had an episode (April 2008) when I did a 8 x 405 bench press. And that was in April 2008... ;)
Here is the download link for the episode:
http://gyurma.net/musorok/2008%20adas%204.avi (290 MB)
My bench press starts at 5:43.
So nobody had 8-10 minutes to download this video and see that I did 8 x 405 bench press easily nearly a year ago...?
And now to the same weight on the incline for 6 reps is impossible, right? :o :-\
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So nobody had 8-10 minutes to download this video and see that I did 8 x 405 bench press easily nearly a year ago...?
And now to the same weight on the incline for 6 reps is impossible, right? :o :-\
post the incline clip, big boy.
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post the incline clip, big boy.
hahahah another bullshitter outted ....
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some great thick sluts in the background
that's his BITCH ;D
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He's 313 @ 9%. Hope this helps. ::)
did quaker actually claim this ???????
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did quaker actually claim this ???????
who me? HELLLLLLL NO, nowhere close to 313, nowhere close to only 9%, he was talking about Poundstone.
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I did a quick Google Image Search just to see what we are working with here, it's from a website called "muscleicious.com".........never heard of it, but you can tell that he built one hell of a base from heavy deadlifts from the age of 15 to 17, and then worked more on refining the mass from those very crucial three years, over the past couple decades.
Well done Steve, look forward to your next show, hopefully the judges will show you some love.
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Here's that pic from muscleicious.com
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(http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/64/l_de70379f684643a5a4912bfd41a1f60b.jpg)
Curious about Mariuz....is he usually this low in bodyfat? If so, does him being that possibly debunk the idea that offseason needs to be where you gain bodyfat in order to get strong? I mean the dude lifts some incredible weight (albiet with some chemical assistance)....
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Curious about Mariuz....is he usually this low in bodyfat? If so, does him being that possibly debunk the idea that offseason needs to be where you gain bodyfat in order to get strong? I mean the dude lifts some incredible weight (albiet with some chemical assistance)....
Having extra bodyfat DEFINATELY in general helps with overall strength. That being said you can't compare Mariuz to that statement. He is a FREAK of nature, 1 in 1000000 that can be incredibly strong yet stay very lean. That is definately not the norm.
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Having extra bodyfat DEFINATELY in general helps with overall strength. That being said you can't compare Mariuz to that statement. He is a FREAK of nature, 1 in 1000000 that can be incredibly strong yet stay very lean. That is definately not the norm.
If you just train hard, say your prayers and take your vitamins, ANYONE can have a physique and strength attributes of this man, Hulk Hogan told me so in 1987, and I still believe it to this very day.
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Having extra bodyfat DEFINATELY in general helps with overall strength. That being said you can't compare Mariuz to that statement. He is a FREAK of nature, 1 in 1000000 that can be incredibly strong yet stay very lean. That is definately not the norm.
I used to agree with this, but I believe everyone has a "sweet spot" where they are lean and strong and where adding extra body fat won't make too much of a difference. It's a matter of knowing your body and finding where the best point is for you imo.
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I would like to see an offseason marius (not fat) but with some more bf and generaly weight on him. He would be a fucking bull.
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Curious about Mariuz....is he usually this low in bodyfat? If so, does him being that possibly debunk the idea that offseason needs to be where you gain bodyfat in order to get strong? I mean the dude lifts some incredible weight (albiet with some chemical assistance)....
shit, Mariusz has got to be the Most Impressive WSM when it comes to Physique. Maybe he should apply for an IFBB Pro Card. :)
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Hey retards ..Steve posted the clip ...any questions ?
hahahaha ... consider yourself owned yet AGAIN!...
It's so transparent that you talk shit just to get him defensive ...
you think because his english he doesn't understand but he is much wittier than you ...
If this dialog would've been in hungarian he would be pissing all over you clowns ..
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Hey retards ..Steve posted the clip ...any questions ?
hahahaha ... consider yourself owned yet AGAIN!...
It's so transparent that you talk shit just to get him defensive ...
you think because his english he doesn't understand but he is much wittier than you ...
If this dialog would've been in hungarian he would be pissing all over you clowns ..
Sevastase, I'm a newby here and i think that you hang around here longer. Can you tell me why they doubt Steve here on his strength claims? It makes to me no scense. The guy looks like a tank with cannonball delts and a thick chesst. You don't build that kind a muscle with kindergarten weigts.
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Steve is a fuckin strong squatter
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Hey retards ..Steve posted the clip ...any questions ?
hahahaha ... consider yourself owned yet AGAIN!...
It's so transparent that you talk shit just to get him defensive ...
you think because his english he doesn't understand but he is much wittier than you ...
If this dialog would've been in hungarian he would be pissing all over you clowns ..
where is it?
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Sevastase, I'm a newby here and i think that you hang around here longer. Can you tell me why they doubt Steve here on his strength claims? It makes to me no scense. The guy looks like a tank with cannonball delts and a thick chesst. You don't build that kind a muscle with kindergarten weigts.
oh ..pretty simple ..
Quaker/Squadfather's gig on getbig is :
get people to claim slifts
after, taunt them to post proof
after, even if proof is provided, taunt them some more...either pick on the form, andgle, etc ..basically whatever proof you bring it won't be enough and they will keep trying to minimize your accomplisment and endlessly taunt you and no matter what you say or post it wil go on and on to no end .
Their gig is getting people to defend their claims while they keep being oblivious to anything and taunt on and on.
Another thing is : Squadfather/quaker, chaos, etc will always post toghether and keep going back and forth with questions like : " are you saying that Steve coudn't roll 750 on the floor ? " ..and so forth ..
It's pretty stupid but gets people going and even pros stopped posting here because of idiots like them
they have endless gimmicks that they switch to to back themselves up, etc ...
If ignored, they'll go away
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where is it?
where is it ?????????????????
you joking right ?
steve posted a fucking tv episode where at 5:43 benches 405x8 and you are asking "where is it " ???????????????????????
LOL
I will never ever understand people like you who like to see people getting angry while taunting them ....
My oppinion is that you have major childhood isssues and/or celullar memory filled with trauma and abuse and instead of aknowledging them and come to terms you are trying to do the same thing to others ...wrong.
It's possible you are not even aware you are doing this ... but trust me that this is exactly what's going on with you.
You my friend have deep issues you need to deal with ..... honest to God .
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where is it ?????????????????
you joking right ?
steve posted a fucking tv episode where at 5:43 benches 405x8 and you are asking "where is it " ???????????????????????
LOL
I will never ever understand people like you who like to see people getting angry while taunting them ....
My oppinion is that you have major childhood isssues and/or celullar memory filled with trauma and abuse and instead of aknowledging them and come to terms you are trying to do the same thing to others ...wrong.
It's possible you are not even aware you are doing this ... but trust me that this is exactly what's going on with you.
You my friend have deep issues you need to deal with ..... honest to God .
i was talking about the INCLINE video sweetheart, damn dude chill out i wasn't trying to make him or you angry just questioning the lift, that's all. ::)
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i was talking about the INCLINE video sweetheart, damn dude chill out i wasn't trying to make him or you angry just questioning the lift, that's all. ::)
The riff from the song in your avatar is a ripoff of Sweet Home Alabama >:(
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The riff from the song in your avatar is a ripoff of Sweet Home Alabama >:(
it's actually Werewolves of London by Warren Zevon. :D
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i was talking about the INCLINE video sweetheart, damn dude chill out i wasn't trying to make him or you angry just questioning the lift, that's all. ::)
No ! You questioned him on his 405x8 flat ...
He posted the video clearly showing him doing it.
You ignored it ( go figure ::) ) and started with the incline proof questions ..
You know exactly what you are doing and you play stupid by switching the discussion to inclines.
It's honestly getting tiresome ..
years and years of this shit
When some retard like no one claims something or some douche like Will Grant, I'm all about fucking with them until they post something and expose themselves as huge jokes.
But when an IFBB Pro like Steve does it, it's honestly pointless and annoying.
The guy is top notch, very honest and a very strong bodybuilder albeit a smart one.
I for one would like to learn more from him....
But keep doing your old routine maybe you'll OWN ::) him and he'll have a huge MELTDOWN ::) and stop posting on getbig
we had Cutler, Ray, Priest, Kamali, Milos, Richard Jones, etc etc.
None of them post anymore due to you, your gimmikcs, and the other num nuts antics.....
Now we have Istvan Nemeth contributing and the only thing you are capable of saying to him is " prove your bench claim " ??????????????
Jeebus man...
Do you realize that there are people like me who would like to learn from him and interact with him ?
Bodybuilders on this forum can learn A LOT from him cause he obviously knows what he is doing ....
So maybe you should chill with the nastiness and maybe learn something from him ...
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it's actually Werewolves of London by Warren Zevon. :D
I know but the riff is really close to SHA.thats why Kid Rock used em both for his song "All Summer Long"
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No ! You questioned him on his 405x8 flat ...
He posted the video clearly showing him doing it.
You ignored it ( go figure ::) ) and started with the incline proof questions ..
You know exactly what you are doing and you play stupid by switching the discussion to inclines.
It's honestly getting tiresome ..
years and years of this shit
When some retard like no one claims something or some douche like Will Grant, I'm all about fucking with them until they post something and expose themselves as huge jokes.
But when an IFBB Pro like Steve does it, it's honestly pointless and annoying.
The guy is top notch, very honest and a very strong bodybuilder albeit a smart one.
I for one would like to learn more from him....
But keep doing your old routine maybe you'll OWN ::) him and he'll have a huge MELTDOWN ::) and stop posting on getbig
we had Cutler, Ray, Priest, Kamali, Milos, Richard Jones, etc etc.
None of them post anymore due to you, your gimmikcs, and the other num nuts antics.....
Now we have Istvan Nemeth contributing and the only thing you are capable of saying to him is " prove your bench claim " ??????????????
Jeebus man...
Do you realize that there are people like me who would like to learn from him and interact with him ?
Bodybuilders on this forum can learn A LOT from him cause he obviously knows what he is doing ....
So maybe you should chill with the nastiness and maybe learn something from him ...
first off IT WAS THE INCLINE VIDEO i questioned him on, go back and re read the posts, second i've ALWAYS given Steve props on having an AWESOME build you can go back and check that too, third it was Alexxx who ran Cutler off being a jackass AFTER I WAS THE ONE WHO SENT HIM AN E MAIL ASKING HIM TO JOIN GETBIG, fourth i had absolutely nothing to do with Shawn, Milos, Lee or any of those guys stopping posting here and you know that damn well. ::)
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No ! You questioned him on his 405x8 flat ...
He posted the video clearly showing him doing it.
You ignored it ( go figure ::) ) and started with the incline proof questions ..
You know exactly what you are doing and you play stupid by switching the discussion to inclines.
It's honestly getting tiresome ..
years and years of this shit
When some retard like no one claims something or some douche like Will Grant, I'm all about fucking with them until they post something and expose themselves as huge jokes.
But when an IFBB Pro like Steve does it, it's honestly pointless and annoying.
The guy is top notch, very honest and a very strong bodybuilder albeit a smart one.
I for one would like to learn more from him....
But keep doing your old routine maybe you'll OWN ::) him and he'll have a huge MELTDOWN ::) and stop posting on getbig
we had Cutler, Ray, Priest, Kamali, Milos, Richard Jones, etc etc.
None of them post anymore due to you, your gimmikcs, and the other num nuts antics.....
Now we have Istvan Nemeth contributing and the only thing you are capable of saying to him is " prove your bench claim " ??????????????
Jeebus man...
Do you realize that there are people like me who would like to learn from him and interact with him ?
Bodybuilders on this forum can learn A LOT from him cause he obviously knows what he is doing ....
So maybe you should chill with the nastiness and maybe learn something from him ...
x2. That's pretty sad actually. THe Pro's make the effort and time to post here (no contract involved) and anonimous clown's with verry childish behaviour are trying to "own" them. "Wow, I owned a Pro bb on a message board!!!" Honey, how was your day??"
Sad.
I can imagane that only the positive board is suitable for the pro's.
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x2. That's pretty sad actually. THe Pro's make the effort and time to post here (no contract involved) and anonimous clown's with verry childish behaviour are trying to "own" them. "Wow, I owned a Pro bb on a message board!!!" Honey, how was your day??"
Sad.
I can imagane that only the positive board is suitable for the pro's.
Haha give me a break. Like you can learn anything from those guys anyway.
They come on here and lie about their drug use, make absurd strength claims, and then go crying when we call them on their bullshit.
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Other than drugs what are you gonna glean from hanging off pro or "national level competitor" nutsacks?
People do it all the time here and I want to know why.
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Wow! Awesome thread! :D
I love you all! 8) ;D
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Wow! Awesome thread! :D
I love you all! 8) ;D
Thanks!!
We're not a bad bunch. You should come to the Y board and break balls. :)
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oh ..pretty simple ..
Quaker/Squadfather's gig on getbig is :
get people to claim slifts
after, taunt them to post proof
after, even if proof is provided, taunt them some more...either pick on the form, andgle, etc ..basically whatever proof you bring it won't be enough and they will keep trying to minimize your accomplisment and endlessly taunt you and no matter what you say or post it wil go on and on to no end .
Their gig is getting people to defend their claims while they keep being oblivious to anything and taunt on and on.
Hold on Dickhead..you do this as well..you act just as big a tool as anyone here,you are just trying to impress Steve ::)
If he is as clever as you say he will see through your fakeness pretty quick. idiot ::)
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Hold on Dickhead..you do this as well..you act just as big a tool as anyone here,you are just trying to impress Steve ::)
If he is as clever as you say he will see through your fakeness pretty quick. idiot ::)
At least he hasn't posted those 2 year old pics again. :)
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At least he hasn't posted those 2 year old pics again. :)
Yet ;D
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Thanks!!
We're not a bad bunch. You should come to the Y board and break balls. :)
Y board...I have never been there before... I'll check it out! :D
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Hold on Dickhead..you do this as well..you act just as big a tool as anyone here,you are just trying to impress Steve ::)
If he is as clever as you say he will see through your fakeness pretty quick. idiot ::)
how's fake roids and ghb sales lately ? huh?
you strike me as someone who will def end up in jail
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how's fake roids and ghb sales lately ? huh?
you strike me as someone who will def end up in jail
How about showing us pics of these 19 inch lean guns there "big guy"
You must of been up around 115-120kg with abs to back this claim.
my arms were as big as 19 inches cold witrh no fat so....there...I think I did
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How about showing us pics of these 19 inch lean guns there "big guy"
You must of been up around 115-120kg with abs to back this claim.
116 kg ...I'll gladly post a pic when you will post a shot of you proving it's you ;)
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116 kg ...I'll gladly post a pic when you will post a shot of you proving it's you ;)
Bullshit... when you are lean your arms struggle to hit 16inches..
Do you want me to start posting all your other lies Sebby?
Im sure Steve would like to see it though he proberly is wide awake to you , you are from a corrupt country where fake roids are rife :D
Why did Ron ban you from his gym ? was it selling fake gear by any chance :D >:(
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steve namath should be flattered
this is the first time that sevatase has crushed on someone else besides the village donkey
*waits*
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Bullshit... when you are lean your arms struggle to hit 16inches..
Do you want me to start posting all your other lies Sebby?
Im sure Steve would like to see it though he proberly is wide awake to you , you are from a corrupt country where fake roids are rife :D
Why did Ron ban you from his gym ? was it selling fake gear by any chance :D >:(
you are sidestepping my offer
was to be expected
Ron never owned a gym: when he trained me he was absolutely broke and homeless and didn't even own a cell phone.
I was never banned from a gym.
I never sold gear...
I'm more and more inclined to believe you are indeed a drugdealer . ;)
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Haha give me a break. Like you can learn anything from those guys anyway.
They come on here and lie about their drug use, make absurd strength claims, and then go crying when we call them on their bullshit.
this is mostly true, with a few exceptions, i.e. milos, chacon, and ........
maybe steve namat will also talk about his gear use, training, diet etc if we ask him nicely and show him some respect.
what do you say steve ?
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will grant : you lie and lie and lie and make up stuff and then lie some more....
I will never ever like you and in real life I would probably beat the shit out of you if you would ever even tried to be smart with me. But we all know this is the internet and you can be a "big" man and talk smack :D
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will grant : you lie and lie and lie and make up stuff and then lie some more....
I will never ever like you and in real life I would probably beat the shit out of you if you would ever even tried to be smart with me. But we all know this is the internet and you can be a "big" man and talk smack :D
settle down Frances. ::)
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will grant : you lie and lie and lie and make up stuff and then lie some more....
I will never ever like you and in real life I would probably beat the shit out of you if you would ever even tried to be smart with me. But we all know this is the internet and you can be a "big" man and talk smack :D
::)
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hey Sev seriously man what's bugging you today? you seem moodier lately for some reason, i'm seriously intersted.
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I'm just being honest . In real life none of you little bitches would say shit to me. You and I both know it....
except jonny .. he would actually dare me just to touch skin :-X
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hey Sev seriously man what's bugging you today? you seem moodier lately for some reason, i'm seriously intersted.
I'm less patient with bs ....
like will grant : can you imagine this dude saying 0.000000000001 % of the shit he does here in real life ?
come on.... ::)
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You are right about Pro's being driven off but you are targeting the wrong people. Imean shit Chaos tries to get them here on the positive board so why would he run them off. Also Quaker just hits up these nobody's like you most of the time.
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You are right about Pro's being driven off but you are targeting the wrong people. Imean shit Chaos tries to get them here on the positive board so why would he run them off. Also Quaker just hits up these nobody's like you most of the time.
fuccked up thing is dude that all you have to do is doubt one fuccking claim these egomaniacs make and they're all over you with rage, they'll ignore the 99 positive ass kissing posts people make and single out the one doubting post, crazy dudes.
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lifting a barbell with weights and doing shit like tree trunks, caber tosses, atlas stones are a different world. These fuckers at the highland games don't look strong but they are freaking animals.
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pro's should go to muscle mayhem if they want their ass kissed :-*
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pro's should go to muscle mayhem if they want their ass kissed :-*
problem is that pros are so insecure that they can't see one thread of a strongman or powerlifter go by without commenting on "how striong i'd be if i directly trained for it but i'm interested in how i look onstage" ::)
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problem is that pros are so insecure that they can't see one thread of a strongman or powerlifter go by without commenting on "how striong i'd be if i directly trained for it but i'm interested in how i look onstage" ::)
i noticed that on the first page of this thread
to all the pros,
it is okay that someone is stronger than you
don't worry guys you....
you still have a bigger penis than them.......... nope
you can look yourselves in the mirrornope
um, you have great tans
jnn
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i noticed that on the first page of this thread
to all the pros,
it is okay that someone is stronger than you
don't worry guys you....
you still have a bigger penis than them.......... nope
you can look yourselves in the mirrornope
um, you have great tans
jnn
exactly, the thing that cracks me up is they'll say over and over "i don't care what i lift only what i look like" and "i don't lift for strength only for size/cuts" yet the first thing these guys do when challenged is throw out how much they bench/squat/overhead press etc. when they see a thread about a strongman/powerlifter. ::)
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Only a "bodybuilder" wouldn't get mad over to insults to his wife, education, intelligence, income, etc... but doubt a lift claim or measurement they want a rumble.
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EGO is a Dirty word.The Shorter ones seem to have a point to prove.Midgets always like the Attention. :-\
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will grant : you lie and lie and lie and make up stuff and then lie some more....
I will never ever like you and in real life I would probably beat the shit out of you if you would ever even tried to be smart with me. But we all know this is the internet and you can be a "big" man and talk smack :D
Just like you did here :D
how's fake roids and ghb sales lately ? huh?
you strike me as someone who will def end up in jail
Im sure Steve is seeing the pattern here..
You chuck some shit then claim someone else chucked it first ::)
I will never ever like you and in real life I would probably beat the shit out of you if you would ever even tried to be smart with me. But we all know this is the internet and you can be a "big" man and talk smack :D
AHAHAHAHAHA Settle down you serbian spermcatcher , you couldnt smack your self out of a wet paper bag with an axe..just one look at you is enough to see you are a joke..
Whos talking "smack" on the internet? seems you are the one doing all the talking little fella. ;D
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I'm just being honest . In real life none of you little bitches would say shit to me. You and I both know it....
except jonny .. he would actually dare me just to touch skin :-X
ahahaha You take yourself wayyyyyyyyy to serious ya ugly fuktard...
You homosexual crush on Steve is quite funny though..just like the whole pillowtalk thing
Now run along and milk some goats Mr No body.
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I'm just being honest . In real life none of you little bitches would say shit to me. You and I both know it....
except jonny .. he would actually dare me just to touch skin :-X
LMFAO........oh shit, I laughed so hard I spit my 455 gram protein shake all over my supermodel girlfriend while she was blowing me. ;D ;D
Seriously, you have gotten some big beers muscles lately.
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LMFAO........oh shit, I laughed so hard I spit my 455 gram protein shake all over my supermodel girlfriend while she was blowing me. ;D ;D
Seriously, you have gotten some big beers muscles lately.
The human penis with ears aka Severedteste is such a hypocrite though..
Hes having a spew at Dave for asking Steve to Prove a lifting claim and in his "lustful protective rage" takes a swipe at you , he jumps up and down about "scaring the pros away" by doubting them etc etc but yet this is the gormless prick who only a few weeks ago was doubting King Kamalis lifting and gear claims..he even started a thread about it ::)
The guy is one whacked in the head deluded fruit loop.
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will grant : socool calm and collected in front of his desktop computer ... oozes confidence ....he lies so much that he is starting to believe what he says .
to bad we will prolly never meet ;)
I'm not talking smack either ....more like a little kid wishing for a christmas toy ;)
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will grant : " I don't care..you are a nobody ...blah blah "
then proceeds to type a 13 post meltdown...
:D
drugdealer :-*
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will grant : socool calm and collected in front of his desktop computer ... oozes confidence ....he lies so much that he is starting to believe what he says .
to bad we will prolly never meet ;)
I'm not talking smack either ....more like a little kid wishing for a christmas toy ;)
There you go again ,projecting you onto others..
Im calm,cool and collected in real life to except when my girls bleeding ;D
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There you go again ,projecting you onto others..
Im calm,cool and collected in real life to except when my girls bleeding ;D
guys don't get periods ...
no you are not ....
I think you are mad at me for exposing you as a drugdealer and ug lab owner
you like putting a lot of cash into cheap cars to sup them up..typical of DRUGDEALERS...
be carefull...plenty of cops on this forum ....maybe you wanna lay low for a while and ride the heat off ;)
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guys don't get periods ...
no you are not ....
I think you are mad at me for exposing you as a drugdealer and ug lab owner
you like putting a lot of cash into cheap cars to sup them up..typical of DRUGDEALERS...
be carefull...plenty of cops on this forum ....maybe you wanna lay low for a while and ride the heat off ;)
Epic failure..you are quite a stupid tit arnt you.. ;D
Hows that flat you are renting , with all the 1970s furniture and black and white tv ..
Why dont you go answer the posts where I show you lying? you keep skipping over those..wait up ill go get another quote from you.to show how you are indeed full of shit.
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Epic failure..you are quite a stupid tit arnt you.. ;D
Hows that flat you are renting , with all the 1970s furniture and black and white tv ..
Why dont you go answer the posts where I show you lying? you keep skipping over those..wait up ill go get another quote from you.to show how you are indeed full of shit.
I asked you repeatedly and you keep dodging the issue :
Do you make big cash ? or are you a low level DRUGDEALER ??
judging by how much cash you blow on upgrading your shitty car sounds like a NARCOTICS DEALER as well
are you a DRUGDEALER ?
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Is will a drug dealer?
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Is will a drug dealer?
I deal in love webcke :D
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I deal in love webcke :D
Me too!!
Business is great!!
Everyone is depressed!!
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I asked you repeatedly and you keep dodging the issue :
Do you make big cash ? or are you a low level DRUGDEALER ??
judging by how much cash you blow on upgrading your shitty car sounds like a NARCOTICS DEALER as well
are you a DRUGDEALER ?
You asked me what?
Answer this slavic slowboat
Why dont you go answer the posts where I show you lying? you keep skipping over those
Nope to being a drugdealer , I buy my drugs from a dealer though , just like you :D
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You asked me what?
Answer this slavic slowboat
Nope to being a drugdealer , I buy my drugs from a dealer though , just like you :D
nope honey ..when I buy anything and if I buy I go to the pharmacy . Cause I bought dbol exclusively.
YES WEBCKE : aparently GH15 outed this criminal to be an underground bunk and NARCOTICS DRUGDEALER.
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nope honey ..when I buy anything and if I buy I go to the pharmacy . Cause I bought dbol exclusively.
YES WEBCKE : aparently GH15 outed this criminal to be an underground bunk and NARCOTICS DRUGDEALER.
Since you are quoting the "great" gh15 how about him saying where you buy all your stuff from is fake..
You posted pics asking for his opinion,he said you look very good "for a natural" ahahaha you been using since early 90s ahahahaha fully loaded on gear and he thinks you are natural..epic being owned by your hero ahahaha
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The human penis with ears aka Severedteste
hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahaha
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Since you are quoting the "great" gh15 how about him saying where you buy all your stuff from is fake..
You posted pics asking for his opinion,he said you look very good "for a natural" ahahaha you been using since early 90s ahahahaha fully loaded on gear and he thinks you are natural..epic being owned by your hero ahahaha
I do look very good clean with what mommy nature gave me
thanx for the compliment
DRUGDEALER
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I do look very good clean with what mommy nature gave me
thanx for the compliment
DRUGDEALER
Look at me
Look at me
Look at me
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what's up gaylord ? :D :-X
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I do look very good clean with what mommy nature gave me
thanx for the compliment
DRUGDEALER
So you were natural on those pics?
And that's a naked double biceps? :D
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So you were natural on those pics?
And that's a naked double biceps? :D
:D
yes it's very naked .. :D ..
not natural...but clean
3 years ago I started training and tried dieting a bit without hormones and steroids ...
I bulked to 90 kg and then dieted down to 81 kg and about 8 % bodyfat ...all clean
I did compete before and used hormones and was much bigger so it was muscle memory ...
it took me 3 months to bulk and 2 months to diet
this is the before and after
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:D
yes it's very naked .. :D ..
not natural...but clean
3 years ago I started training and tried dieting a bit without hormones and steroids ...
I bulked to 90 kg and then dieted down to 81 kg and about 8 % bodyfat ...all clean
I did compete before and used hormones and was much bigger so it was muscle memory ...
it took me 3 months to bulk and 2 months to diet
this is the before and after
All lies..go check your post history to see it. ;)
And you were loaded on gear when you asked gh15s opinion of your build.
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All lies..go check your post history to see it. ;)
And you were loaded on gear when you asked gh15s opinion of your build.
unlike you DRUGDEALER, I don't need to lie.
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=256622.msg3611624#new (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=256622.msg3611624#new)
*whistle whistle whistle*
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do you dress in hip hop clotches ?
:D :D :D
(http://www.408inc.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/stik5.jpg)
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yet, no matter the intensity, hes still fat.
Well he's not skinny, but not in bad shape at all for a strongman. He's short and squat but very muscular with abs. Would you call Pudz fat?
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Hate to agree with him Steve, but Quaker does have a point. We are going to have to see a vid, bro. You can't just come on this site spouting off lift claims without backing them up, that shit just ain't gonna fly.
And by the way, I still got a bone to pick with you over your claim that you can deadlift more at the age of 17 than you can now, that ain't gonna cut it.
Lifting more at 17 isn't unfeasable. If you've actually trained for a few years you will know, like many pro BBs say, that after a while you realise powerlifting a couple of big reps doesn't get you muscular looking so you start doing more controlled higher reps. You get tears and aches and pains and big weights become pointless. Obviously speculating about what you COULD lift if training etc is pointless too. But there are lots of guys who focus on he contraction etc more than ever as they get older, like Vic Martinez. He tore his chest now there's nothing in it for him if he presses over 400lb or whatever. This probably counts as a meltdown, but Steve looks damn huge so why would any tiny-tits try and pretend to know more?
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Quel Surprise! WillGrant, the same guy who was going on and on about how “sick” and “depraved” homosexuality is… he wanted to “kill all the queers” in the Lonnie Teper thread... is here reading all about anal sex.
With literally billions of web pages to choose from and more than 500 threads on getbig alone, look where he ends up: in a thread on what it feels like to get fucked in the ass. Is anyone really surprised. Roll Eyes
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Quel Surprise! WillGrant, the same guy who was going on and on about how “sick” and “depraved” homosexuality is… he wanted to “kill all the queers” in the Lonnie Teper thread... is here reading all about anal sex.
With literally billions of web pages to choose from and more than 500 threads on getbig alone, look where he ends up: in a thread on what it feels like to get fucked in the ass. Is anyone really surprised. Roll Eyes
;D
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Its a sign of defeat that an egomaniac must twist a thread out of context to suit his own needs , could it be the "me me me" attitude yet again..
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=233130.msg3304340#msg3304340 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=233130.msg3304340#msg3304340)
Oh lookie here it seems others have noticed the egomaniac,nacissistic man with delusions of granduer also..
In comparing the two I see some marked differences that is a determination of their character. I notice that Will Grant rarely picks a fight but doesn't walk away from one when there are times he shouldn't bother. Sevastase seems quick to antagonize and provoke others and quick with the personal insults. What is most telling about Sevastase is his great propensity to post pictures of himself, especially in a format for all the world to see. He seems to have a deluded image of himself. Also, where the hell does he get all that gay porn he so likes to post? And notice that whatever the subject he always works in the gay angle.
There is something creepy and slimy about this Sevastase. I like how he tries to act cool by using American slang and phrases when he's just a low life in a country that could only behave itself when under the Communist boot. Just look at him. You won't have to look far because there are literally hundreds of his pics are scatter through out this board like dog droppings in an abandon junk yard. Even his avatar with his purposely unshaven face, and puckering his lip to give an angular look to his cheeks in full cock-sucking mold, is a picture perfect example of a greasy, low brow, third world, euro trash wanna be.
Will Grant, the fact that this admitted drug user accuses you of being a dealer is testament to how desperate he has become. He is self-mockery personified and is beneath you. You should no longer address him directly. Dismiss him for the nothing that he is as I have. If you must make reference to him do it in a general sense. Sort of like how Hank Wood responds to his attackers. I don't want him kicked off this board because I believe in free expression so, as much as I know it offends you as it does me, we must suffer with the endless and gratuitous gay porn he always manages to find an excuse to post. Just sigh and shake your head and wonder, if you must, how people can turn out that way. I would advise you to feel pity but since I can't bring myself to do it, because there's something so obscenely filthy about him, I wouldn't impose on you.
Keep fighting the good fight.
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The gay angle that must always be "slipt" into the egomaniacs threads is quite disturbing :o
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;D
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