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Title: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Balloon on January 09, 2009, 12:44:35 PM
this guy is juiced to the gills.

BUT

He also has the worst genetics for SHAPE in the world.
Proof that Drugs cannot achieve an amazing physique ON THEIR OWN....alot of guys saying "all drugs"....

GENETICS RULE THE ROOST

(http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/11/83/75/22/p1030225.jpg)
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Balloon on January 09, 2009, 12:48:57 PM
This guy is an IFBB PRO

Aiman Faour

(serious)
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: tbombz on January 09, 2009, 12:49:30 PM
how does he have bad genetics for muscle shape? do you even knw what that means ?
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: jaejonna on January 09, 2009, 12:49:42 PM
This guy is an IFBB PRO

Aiman Faour

(serious)
They give those cards to anyone nowadays (Putnam for instance)
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: wolfgang187 on January 09, 2009, 12:51:26 PM
SO WHAT HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN LITTLE AND UGLY BEFORE AND NOWS HE'S BIG AND UGLY, HE PROBABLY FEELS BETTER ABOUT HIMSELF
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Balloon on January 09, 2009, 12:59:43 PM
how does he have bad genetics for muscle shape? do you even knw what that means ?
How do i KNow?

Take a look at the shape of his arms!


large, but...
Horrible genetic shape.
(http://www.aimanfaour.com/pics/galerie/17/08.jpg)
(http://www.aimanfaour.com/pics/galerie/17/01.jpg)
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: tbombz on January 09, 2009, 01:02:02 PM
thats not bad genetic shape you just think his vascularity (veins) look grosse or out of place.


the only thing i see wrong is a weak chest and a distended abdomen.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: burn2live on January 09, 2009, 01:04:55 PM
How do i KNow?

Take a look at the shape of his arms!


large, but...
Horrible genetic shape.
(http://www.aimanfaour.com/pics/galerie/17/08.jpg)
(http://www.aimanfaour.com/pics/galerie/17/01.jpg)


It looks like his triceps inserts pretty high up his arm?  ???
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Balloon on January 09, 2009, 01:06:16 PM
thats not bad genetic shape you just think his vascularity (veins) look grosse or out of place.


the only thing i see wrong is a weak chest and a distended abdomen.
No, it is poor shape......top IFBB pro's have excellent genetic muscle shape,,,, full round muscle bellies, great insertions.
It's the difference between this guy, or king kamali, and guys like Heath and Wheeler.

All genetics.......


I just hope you are not fooling urself thinking more drugs will help overcome poor genetic shape
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: tbombz on January 09, 2009, 01:07:43 PM
No, it is poor shape......top IFBB pro's have excellent genetic muscle shape,,,, full round muscle bellies, great insertions.
It's the difference between this guy, or king kamali, and guys like Heath and Wheeler.

All genetics.......


I just hope you are not fooling urself thinking more drugs will help overcome poor genetic shape

well insertions and muscle bellies can never be changed with anything, except maybe surgery.

this guy has big muscle bellies and good insertions though.

do you even know what those are ? look at him again.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: D_1000 on January 09, 2009, 01:09:27 PM
this guy is juiced to the gills.

BUT

He also has the worst genetics for SHAPE in the world.
Proof that Drugs cannot achieve an amazing physique ON THEIR OWN....alot of guys saying "all drugs"....

GENETICS RULE THE ROOST

(http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/11/83/75/22/p1030225.jpg)

EPIC ARAB GENETICS
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Balloon on January 09, 2009, 01:12:25 PM
Tope Tier Bodybuilding really is about genetic shape......don't claim it's about who can pump the most juice.

Take this example....top tier(Dexter) Vs 3rd Tier.

Don;t tell me it's drugs that seperates these two...ITS SHAPE....PRE DETERMINED!!!
Look at the round full arms of Dexter,,,
(http://www.ifbbprofessionalleague.com/2006events/jackson4.jpg)

Then look at This guys.....
(http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/11/83/75/22/p1030225.jpg)



Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: io856 on January 09, 2009, 01:14:46 PM
Every person has the same insertions and origins just differently shaped muscle bellies

Muscle  bellies are shaped from years of evolution for example the sartorius is a very long muscle as its only required for endurance type contraction.

However the vastus medialis is a short muscle as it is required for power.

You can even notice differences among race. For example look at the Asian quadricep.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: tbombz on January 09, 2009, 01:16:12 PM
Tope Tier Bodybuilding really is about genetic shape......don't claim it's about who can pump the most juice.

Take this example....top tier(Dexter) Vs 3rd Tier.

Don;t tell me it's drugs that seperates these two...ITS SHAPE....PRE DETERMINED!!!
Look at the round full arms of Dexter,,,
(http://www.ifbbprofessionalleague.com/2006events/jackson4.jpg)

Then look at This guys.....
(http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/11/83/75/22/p1030225.jpg)




why do you keep accusing me of saying its all drugs ? of roucse genetic shape, muscle belies, insertions, bone structure, joint size, skin thicknes....they all play  HUGE part in determiining who has the btter physique. because its nto who is the most conditioned and biggest, its who LOOKS the most biggest and conditioned (ILLUSION)


anyway, the guy has good arm insertions and muscle belies. biceps and tricep stretch across entire upper arm bone. muscle belly is almost 100% over the area.

dexters arms are simple MUCH MUCH more developed, as well as probaly having smaller elbow joint, making his arm muscle look bigger.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Balloon on January 09, 2009, 01:17:49 PM
why do you keep accusing me of saying its all drugs ? of roucse genetic shape, muscle belies, insertions, bone structure, joint size, skin thicknes....they all play  HUGE part in determiining who has the btter physique. because its nto who is the most conditioned and biggest, its who LOOKS the most biggest and conditioned (ILLUSION)


anyway, the guy has good arm insertions and muscle belies. biceps and tricep stretch across entire upper arm bone. muscle belly is almost 100% over the area.

dexters arms are simple MUCH MUCH more developed, as well as probaly having smaller elbow joint, making his arm muscle look bigger.
So are u suggesting that this guy's arms could look like Dexter's with more time in the gym? just simply a matter of developing them further?...

C'mon man  ::)
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: tbombz on January 09, 2009, 01:20:14 PM
So are u suggesting that this guy's arms could look like Dexter's with more time in the gym? just simply a matter of developing them further?...

C'mon man  ::)
no, i didnt say that. dexter has smaller joints, and thinner skin. and maybe the guy just doesnt have the ability to grow his bis and tris big enough to make them appear to be as big as dexters. im sure he could get them as large or much larger.


why are you trying to argue ? your having a bad day arent you
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Balloon on January 09, 2009, 01:22:31 PM
no, i didnt say that. dexter has smaller joints, and thinner skin. and maybe the guy just doesnt have the ability to grow his bis and tris big enough to make them appear to be as big as dexters. im sure he could get them as large or much larger.


why are you trying to argue ? your having a bad day arent you

I know ur taking roids, i just hope u realise ur limit in terms of your own genetic potential..

U either have or DO NOT HAVE the genetic shape to be a pro,,,

I just don't want ya thinking that drug cocktails are gonna get u to the top...

Just lookin out for ya  :P
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on January 09, 2009, 01:23:56 PM
dexter had better arms than that fello when he was a teenager
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: m8 on January 09, 2009, 01:24:09 PM
Most top pros were very skinny as young kids.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: tbombz on January 09, 2009, 01:24:53 PM
I know ur taking roids, i just hope u realise ur limit in terms of your own genetic potential..

U either have or DO NOT HAVE the genetic shape to be a pro,,,

I just don't want ya thinking that drug cocktails are gonna get u to the top...

Just lookin out for ya  :P
you dont know anything about my genetic shape ..  :)
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: delta9mda on January 09, 2009, 01:26:35 PM
this guy is juiced to the gills.

BUT

He also has the worst genetics for SHAPE in the world.
Proof that Drugs cannot achieve an amazing physique ON THEIR OWN....alot of guys saying "all drugs"....

GENETICS RULE THE ROOST

(http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/11/83/75/22/p1030225.jpg)
he was walking arounf the olympia with alimini
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 09, 2009, 01:33:23 PM
How do i KNow?

Take a look at the shape of his arms!


large, but...
Horrible genetic shape.
(http://www.aimanfaour.com/pics/galerie/17/08.jpg)
(http://www.aimanfaour.com/pics/galerie/17/01.jpg)

agree... guy looks like a mess....
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Rudee on January 09, 2009, 02:44:36 PM
You didn't pick out a very good example of bad genetic muscle shape, thus most people here are not supporting your claim.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 09, 2009, 02:50:23 PM
huga barrel torso
shapeless arms....
no bi peak
wide waiste....
...
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: tommywishbone on January 09, 2009, 02:50:51 PM
FWIW, example dude is a nice guy. He's at Gold's Venice all the time. Quick easy smile. Always says hi. Dude's cool.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: flagadajones on January 09, 2009, 02:54:08 PM
he has the exact same physique than kamali.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: nycbull on January 09, 2009, 05:28:30 PM
if joint size is so important to bodybuilders why dont they have their elbows shaved down. Probably could do it surgically, like this guy if the points on his elbows weren't so big is arms would look huge.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: The ChemistV2 on January 09, 2009, 05:41:54 PM
This physique clearly illustrates that you you can slap muscle on your frame with loads of roids, Gh, and insulin and still look terrible. There are literally tons of guys out there now that have this look.  If you don't have an eye for what a good physique is, then you won't notice the  thick waist, oddly shaped arms, the weak forearms, weak chest, lack of v-taper. A guy like Bob Paris, in my opinion, looks a thousand times better than this.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: dr.chimps on January 09, 2009, 05:46:08 PM
(Not so) Great Arab genetics!   
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Fatpanda on January 09, 2009, 05:49:10 PM
Tope Tier Bodybuilding really is about genetic shape......don't claim it's about who can pump the most juice.

Take this example....top tier(Dexter) Vs 3rd Tier.

Don;t tell me it's drugs that seperates these two...ITS SHAPE....PRE DETERMINED!!!
Look at the round full arms of Dexter,,,
(http://www.ifbbprofessionalleague.com/2006events/jackson4.jpg)

Then look at This guys.....
(http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/11/83/75/22/p1030225.jpg)





the guy has palumboism and has abused synthol, insulin, gh, and gos knows hat else - i.e. ruined his physique. not a good example. its like comparing the arms of klause dorring to dex.

on that note, dex looks fvcking amazing in that pic  :o :o :o anyone know which comp it is ?
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: jr on January 09, 2009, 06:18:41 PM
I'mk glad you proved the obvious.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: WillGrant on January 09, 2009, 06:44:44 PM
Quote
Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE

Who said they could?  ???
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Emmortal on January 09, 2009, 07:04:18 PM
FWIW, example dude is a nice guy. He's at Gold's Venice all the time. Quick easy smile. Always says hi. Dude's cool.

Yup, he's pretty thick, his arms look a lot bigger in person than in the photos posted here.  I give it to him for keeping at it, but I don't think he'll ever go far in the ranks.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Danimal77 on January 09, 2009, 08:06:25 PM
this guy is juiced to the gills.

BUT

He also has the worst genetics for SHAPE in the world.
Proof that Drugs cannot achieve an amazing physique ON THEIR OWN....alot of guys saying "all drugs"....

GENETICS RULE THE ROOST

(http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/11/83/75/22/p1030225.jpg)

 :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Danimal77 on January 09, 2009, 08:07:04 PM
this guy is juiced to the gills.

BUT

He also has the worst genetics for SHAPE in the world.
Proof that Drugs cannot achieve an amazing physique ON THEIR OWN....alot of guys saying "all drugs"....

GENETICS RULE THE ROOST

(http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/11/83/75/22/p1030225.jpg)

Is that an Arabic Gold's Gym?
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Danimal77 on January 09, 2009, 08:07:59 PM
How do i KNow?

Take a look at the shape of his arms!


large, but...
Horrible genetic shape.
(http://www.aimanfaour.com/pics/galerie/17/08.jpg)
(http://www.aimanfaour.com/pics/galerie/17/01.jpg)


Nice site injection on his right bicep.  ::)
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: QuakerOats on January 09, 2009, 08:08:26 PM
huga barrel torso
shapeless arms....
no bi peak
wide waiste....
...
the guy looks A MILLION TIMES better, bigger, more shredded than you.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Danimal77 on January 09, 2009, 08:08:55 PM
thats not bad genetic shape you just think his vascularity (veins) look grosse or out of place.


the only thing i see wrong is a weak chest and a distended abdomen.

How about NO foreams and FUCKED UP arms?
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Danimal77 on January 09, 2009, 08:09:43 PM
Tope Tier Bodybuilding really is about genetic shape......don't claim it's about who can pump the most juice.

Take this example....top tier(Dexter) Vs 3rd Tier.

Don;t tell me it's drugs that seperates these two...ITS SHAPE....PRE DETERMINED!!!
Look at the round full arms of Dexter,,,
(http://www.ifbbprofessionalleague.com/2006events/jackson4.jpg)

Then look at This guys.....
(http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/11/83/75/22/p1030225.jpg)

Dexter is a mini working man's Flex Wheeler.




Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Danimal77 on January 09, 2009, 08:11:44 PM
Most top pros were very skinny as young kids.

Arnold, Lou and Davey Boy Smith all come to mind  ;D
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Kegdrainer on January 09, 2009, 08:48:16 PM
IFBB pro card just means you have wasted your life on steroids, destroyed your lower GI with the amount of protein your body has passed, and done a shitload of G4P photo shoots and private "wrestling" demos to pay for it all.  You should get a free oversized casket and burial plot when you get your pro card.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: io856 on January 09, 2009, 09:01:15 PM
IFBB pro card just means you have wasted your life on steroids, destroyed your lower GI with the amount of protein your body has passed, and done a shitload of G4P photo shoots and private "wrestling" demos to pay for it all.  You should get a free oversized casket and burial plot when you get your pro card.

bitter much?
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: tbombz on January 09, 2009, 10:53:13 PM
the guy looks A MILLION TIMES better, bigger, more shredded than you.
yup. meso is a delusional fuckwit. thinks he is ronnie coleman with better calves and abs.  ;D
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: HTexan on January 10, 2009, 12:43:14 AM
science has failed him :(
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Meso_z on January 10, 2009, 01:14:27 AM
How do i KNow?

Take a look at the shape of his arms!


large, but...
Horrible genetic shape.
(http://www.aimanfaour.com/pics/galerie/17/08.jpg)
(http://www.aimanfaour.com/pics/galerie/17/01.jpg)


He doesn't hav the genetics for a great physique. He might have the drugs but not the genetics.

EVERYONE CAN BUY DRUGS BUT NO ONE CAN BUY GENETICS!
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: io856 on January 10, 2009, 01:16:28 AM
He doesn't hav the genetics for a great physique. He might have the drugs but not the genetics.

EVERYONE CAN BUY DRUGS BUT NO ONE CAN BUY GENETICS!
You can't buy a clue either  ::)
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Meso_z on January 10, 2009, 01:22:41 AM
You can't buy a clue either  ::)

Having insecurities with how you look huh?  ::)

Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: disco_stu on January 10, 2009, 03:05:36 AM
this guy is juiced to the gills.

BUT

He also has the worst genetics for SHAPE in the world.
Proof that Drugs cannot achieve an amazing physique ON THEIR OWN....alot of guys saying "all drugs"....

GENETICS RULE THE ROOST

(http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/11/83/75/22/p1030225.jpg)

you've sorely missed the point of the comment "all drugs".

its nothing to do with genetics (the comment that is).

i cant recall anyone claiming that gear altered, or adjusted, or enhanced genetics.  size and conditioning- sure...but genetics- nope.

Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: alnassak on January 10, 2009, 03:22:58 AM
 :P
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: D_1000 on January 10, 2009, 06:26:14 AM
:P

 :(
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: The ChemistV2 on January 10, 2009, 08:15:13 AM
you've sorely missed the point of the comment "all drugs".

its nothing to do with genetics (the comment that is).

i cant recall anyone claiming that gear altered, or adjusted, or enhanced genetics.  size and conditioning- sure...but genetics- nope.


Actually the wrong drugs and synthol can make bad genetics even worse. For example, I would bet if this guy was in the 70's and only using the drugs back then (No GH, Insulin, IGf-1 or synthol)he'd look 100 times better. First of all his waist would be about 4 inches smaller so his taper would be better. With the smaller abdomen his chest would look better. In other words,the Palumboism effect would be greatly minimized and this guy would look very good.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Man of Steel on January 10, 2009, 08:18:27 AM
this guy is juiced to the gills.

BUT

He also has the worst genetics for SHAPE in the world.
Proof that Drugs cannot achieve an amazing physique ON THEIR OWN....alot of guys saying "all drugs"....

GENETICS RULE THE ROOST

(http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/11/83/75/22/p1030225.jpg)

AAHAHAHAH!!!  You'd kill your wife, children and parents to look like him for 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: QuakerOats on January 10, 2009, 08:21:34 AM
AAHAHAHAH!!!  You'd kill your wife, children and parents to look like him for 20 minutes.
exactly right as would ANY non IFBB pro on here.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: 240 is Back on January 10, 2009, 08:31:47 AM
he doesn't have great muscle belly shape, but he's still a pro, and still dwarfs his former self.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Balloon on January 10, 2009, 08:32:08 AM
exactly right as would ANY non IFBB pro on here.
AAHAHAHAH!!!  You'd kill your wife, children and parents to look like him for 20 minutes.
No way,
Mesomorph actually looks better than this guy, muich better genetics.
This guy has a 43 inch waist, and the most "shapeless arms" in the history of roid abusers.
Disgusting.
AND...........he is a midget!  :o
(http://www.aimanfaour.com/pics/galerie/17/01.jpg)
(http://www.aimanfaour.com/pics/galerie/8/01.jpg)
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: HTexan on January 10, 2009, 11:57:26 PM
:(
alien 
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: WillGrant on January 11, 2009, 01:59:55 AM
well insertions and muscle bellies can never be changed with anything, except maybe surgery.

this guy has big muscle bellies and good insertions though.

do you even know what those are ? look at him again.
I dont know what pic you are looking at but he has poor muscle bellies and insertions .especialy his arms ,christ they are worse than sharis
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Mars on January 11, 2009, 02:10:07 AM
he will never win a plastic trophy.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Meso_z on January 11, 2009, 02:21:29 AM
(http://www.aimanfaour.com/pics/galerie/8/01.jpg)

In this pic, he truly looks like shit. GENETICS play a mayor role in bbing.

whoever argues  ::)
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: alnassak on January 11, 2009, 02:22:20 AM
The last place in every show is reserved for him already  :P
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Pecs on January 11, 2009, 05:47:55 AM
there are always 4th tier competitors in every SPORT.. :(
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Tapeworm on January 11, 2009, 05:51:20 AM
(http://www.aimanfaour.com/pics/galerie/8/01.jpg)

In this pic, he truly looks like shit. GENETICS play a mayor role in bbing.

whoever argues  ::)

What the hell is he smiling about?  The fat guy on the left has a smaller waistline.

Slin city.  The 'gut cycle' needs to go. 
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Mars on January 11, 2009, 06:02:08 AM
(http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:7z-pS8uVJESopM:http://bp3.blogger.com/_g93bcGvgWBo/Rzr6ttFlliI/AAAAAAAACgs/_1XosNEp8Ek/s400/KingKamali-MMI-PaulBuceta-2p.jpg)
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 11, 2009, 06:06:02 AM
he doesn't have great muscle belly shape, but he's still a pro, and still dwarfs his former self.

im willing to bet he looked better as a natural... not as big but better
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Meso_z on January 11, 2009, 06:29:18 AM
AAHAHAHAH!!!  You'd kill your wife, children and parents to look like him for 20 minutes.

sure  ::).

see below.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 11, 2009, 08:42:58 AM
(http://www.aimanfaour.com/pics/galerie/8/01.jpg)

In this pic, he truly looks like shit. GENETICS play a mayor role in bbing.

whoever argues  ::)
:-\
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: tbombz on January 11, 2009, 08:52:28 AM
I dont know what pic you are looking at but he has poor muscle bellies and insertions .especialy his arms ,christ they are worse than sharis
muscl bellys and insertions. muscle bellys are "good' when the stretch the entire area which the muscle covers. bigger muscle belies are better than smaller ones. a 'muscle belly' is a term for the actual muscle, of the muscle, not the whiet part tendon type stuf  where the muscle inserts to the bone.   insertions are 'good' when they insert at the farthest possible place down the bone where they are suppost to insert. for back, this means down at the hips. for arms, this means inserts up by the shoulder and down by the elbow (spanning the entire distancee of the upper arm bone).


if you look at his muscle bellies and insertions on his arms, both are good. insert at the very top and the very bottom for both bi's and tri's, and muscle bellies make up entirety of the muscle.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: WillGrant on January 11, 2009, 05:56:38 PM
muscl bellys and insertions. muscle bellys are "good' when the stretch the entire area which the muscle covers. bigger muscle belies are better than smaller ones. a 'muscle belly' is a term for the actual muscle, of the muscle, not the whiet part tendon type stuf  where the muscle inserts to the bone.   insertions are 'good' when they insert at the farthest possible place down the bone where they are suppost to insert. for back, this means down at the hips. for arms, this means inserts up by the shoulder and down by the elbow (spanning the entire distancee of the upper arm bone).


if you look at his muscle bellies and insertions on his arms, both are good. insert at the very top and the very bottom for both bi's and tri's, and muscle bellies make up entirety of the muscle.
His bis and tris insert very high. from the elbow.
Good muscle bellys for bodybuilding purposes should be full , look at the pic Of DEX ,thats a perfect exameple of full muscle bellys,small joints and on his arms his bis and tris insert closer to the elbow giving the illusion of even more fullness..

I have to disagree with you on this example  :)
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Remo Williams on January 11, 2009, 10:11:59 PM
Comparing him to Dexter Jackson is a bit harsh.

However, he doesn't have the best lines.. the waist is the main issue.

He's accomplished more than most of getbiggers will accomplish in bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: tbombz on January 11, 2009, 10:20:00 PM
His bis and tris insert very high. from the elbow.
Good muscle bellys for bodybuilding purposes should be full , look at the pic Of DEX ,thats a perfect exameple of full muscle bellys,small joints and on his arms his bis and tris insert closer to the elbow giving the illusion of even more fullness..

I have to disagree with you on this example  :)
okay i agree they are no where near as full as dexters. but that is because he is less developed. the posted was saying its because of genetics shape muscle bellies and insertins.    but that simply not the case with this guy.


Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Kegdrainer on January 12, 2009, 04:38:39 PM
bitter much?

says the guy with a picture of a well known steroid dealer/ chemist, murderer, and industry rat proudly displayed in his avatar.

Amanda Jo Earhart-Savell's family should cut your nuts off.  As defensive as you are of steroid abusers you obviously have no use for testicles.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: GigantorX on January 12, 2009, 04:40:46 PM
says the guy with a picture of a well known steroid dealer/ chemist, murderer, and industry rat proudly displayed in his avatar.

Amanda Jo Earhart-Savell's family should cut your nuts off.  As defensive as you are of steroid abusers you obviously have no use for testicles.

::)
Well, Amanda shouldn't have been hangin' with a dark character such as Craig and Kelly. She also shouldn't have been stealing from him, smoking meth and sleeping with him either.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Kegdrainer on January 12, 2009, 04:46:41 PM
::)
Well, Amanda shouldn't have been hangin' with a dark character such as Craig and Kelly. She also shouldn't have been stealing from him, smoking meth and sleeping with him either.

Jacobs was a scumbag, and he got what he deserved.  Whether he did it himself or someone else exterminated the rat...who cares.  She wasn't the rat that exposed cops and pro athletes.  Being a drug addict or some other scumbag's cum dumpster as you would paint her to be is still no reason to die.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: GigantorX on January 12, 2009, 04:59:45 PM
Jacobs was a scumbag, and he got what he deserved.  Whether he did it himself or someone else exterminated the rat...who cares.  She wasn't the rat that exposed cops and pro athletes.  Being a drug addict or some other scumbag's cum dumpster as you would paint her to be is still no reason to die.

Fair enough. BUT, people put themselves in these situations most likely knowing that what they are doing is fucking nuts and the obvious happens.

Put yourself in stupid and awful situations and stupid/awful things will happen.

She fucked up, period. It is a terrible thing that happened, but why are all of us shocked that it took place?
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Kwon on January 12, 2009, 05:15:16 PM
Tope Tier Bodybuilding really is about genetic shape......don't claim it's about who can pump the most juice.

Take this example....top tier(Dexter) Vs 3rd Tier.

Don;t tell me it's drugs that seperates these two...ITS SHAPE....PRE DETERMINED!!!
Look at the round full arms of Dexter,,,
(http://www.ifbbprofessionalleague.com/2006events/jackson4.jpg)

Then look at This guys.....
(http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/11/83/75/22/p1030225.jpg)

Well, not everyone can be Dexter.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: hipolito mejia on January 12, 2009, 07:20:43 PM
this guy is juiced to the gills.

BUT

He also has the worst genetics for SHAPE in the world.
Proof that Drugs cannot achieve an amazing physique ON THEIR OWN....alot of guys saying "all drugs"....

GENETICS RULE THE ROOST

(http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/11/83/75/22/p1030225.jpg)

If drugs cant achieve an amazing physique...

why EVERYONE that looks AMAZING are on drugs??
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Kegdrainer on January 12, 2009, 08:08:12 PM
Fair enough. BUT, people put themselves in these situations most likely knowing that what they are doing is fucking nuts and the obvious happens.

Put yourself in stupid and awful situations and stupid/awful things will happen.

She fucked up, period. It is a terrible thing that happened, but why are all of us shocked that it took place?

getting off track here... io854 seems to think the guy is worthy of an avatar

Avatar is a representation of yourself, and if that is the image that he wants people to associate him with...by his logic he should catch a bullet too.

Steroids are illegal and dangerous for a reason.  They should be avoided unless recommended, prescribed, and monitored closely by a reputable doctor. 
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: GigantorX on January 12, 2009, 08:30:26 PM
getting off track here... io854 seems to think the guy is worthy of an avatar

Avatar is a representation of yourself, and if that is the image that he wants people to associate him with...by his logic he should catch a bullet too.

Steroids are illegal and dangerous for a reason.  They should be avoided unless recommended, prescribed, and monitored closely by a reputable doctor. 

Taking that into account.....io854 probably belongs on the Official Schmoe List and he needs his fucking head examined.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: ASJChaotic on January 12, 2009, 08:33:57 PM
this guy is juiced to the gills.

BUT

He also has the worst genetics for SHAPE in the world.
Proof that Drugs cannot achieve an amazing physique ON THEIR OWN....alot of guys saying "all drugs"....

GENETICS RULE THE ROOST

(http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/11/83/75/22/p1030225.jpg)


BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM   >:(
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: Meso_z on January 13, 2009, 12:39:51 AM
Taking that into account.....io854 probably belongs on the Official Schmoe List and he needs his fucking head examined.

yes "io854" is a homo case.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: honest on January 13, 2009, 03:59:41 AM
Actually the wrong drugs and synthol can make bad genetics even worse. For example, I would bet if this guy was in the 70's and only using the drugs back then (No GH, Insulin, IGf-1 or synthol)he'd look 100 times better. First of all his waist would be about 4 inches smaller so his taper would be better. With the smaller abdomen his chest would look better. In other words,the Palumboism effect would be greatly minimized and this guy would look very good.

100% true,
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: jon cole on January 13, 2009, 04:12:27 AM
see this guy everytime in fibo germany, he is awful seriously, and a good friend of nasser.
Title: Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
Post by: GigantorX on January 13, 2009, 12:54:49 PM

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM   >:(

Why don't you just try to find Levrone, slip him a some Liquid G and date rape him? It's painfully obvious you're a schmoeite for Levrone.

Just admit you're a homo.