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Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« on: January 09, 2009, 12:44:35 PM »
this guy is juiced to the gills.

BUT

He also has the worst genetics for SHAPE in the world.
Proof that Drugs cannot achieve an amazing physique ON THEIR OWN....alot of guys saying "all drugs"....

GENETICS RULE THE ROOST

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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2009, 12:48:57 PM »
This guy is an IFBB PRO

Aiman Faour

(serious)
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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2009, 12:49:30 PM »
how does he have bad genetics for muscle shape? do you even knw what that means ?
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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2009, 12:49:42 PM »
Quote from: Balloon on January 09, 2009, 12:48:57 PM
This guy is an IFBB PRO

Aiman Faour

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They give those cards to anyone nowadays (Putnam for instance)
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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2009, 12:51:26 PM »
SO WHAT HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN LITTLE AND UGLY BEFORE AND NOWS HE'S BIG AND UGLY, HE PROBABLY FEELS BETTER ABOUT HIMSELF
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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2009, 12:59:43 PM »
Quote from: tbombz on January 09, 2009, 12:49:30 PM
how does he have bad genetics for muscle shape? do you even knw what that means ?
How do i KNow?

Take a look at the shape of his arms!


large, but...
Horrible genetic shape.


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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2009, 01:02:02 PM »
thats not bad genetic shape you just think his vascularity (veins) look grosse or out of place.


the only thing i see wrong is a weak chest and a distended abdomen.
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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2009, 01:04:55 PM »
Quote from: Balloon on January 09, 2009, 12:59:43 PM
How do i KNow?

Take a look at the shape of his arms!


large, but...
Horrible genetic shape.




It looks like his triceps inserts pretty high up his arm?  ???
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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2009, 01:06:16 PM »
Quote from: tbombz on January 09, 2009, 01:02:02 PM
thats not bad genetic shape you just think his vascularity (veins) look grosse or out of place.


the only thing i see wrong is a weak chest and a distended abdomen.
No, it is poor shape......top IFBB pro's have excellent genetic muscle shape,,,, full round muscle bellies, great insertions.
It's the difference between this guy, or king kamali, and guys like Heath and Wheeler.

All genetics.......


I just hope you are not fooling urself thinking more drugs will help overcome poor genetic shape
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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2009, 01:07:43 PM »
Quote from: Balloon on January 09, 2009, 01:06:16 PM
No, it is poor shape......top IFBB pro's have excellent genetic muscle shape,,,, full round muscle bellies, great insertions.
It's the difference between this guy, or king kamali, and guys like Heath and Wheeler.

All genetics.......


I just hope you are not fooling urself thinking more drugs will help overcome poor genetic shape

well insertions and muscle bellies can never be changed with anything, except maybe surgery.

this guy has big muscle bellies and good insertions though.

do you even know what those are ? look at him again.
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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2009, 01:09:27 PM »
Quote from: Balloon on January 09, 2009, 12:44:35 PM
this guy is juiced to the gills.

BUT

He also has the worst genetics for SHAPE in the world.
Proof that Drugs cannot achieve an amazing physique ON THEIR OWN....alot of guys saying "all drugs"....

GENETICS RULE THE ROOST



EPIC ARAB GENETICS
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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2009, 01:12:25 PM »
Tope Tier Bodybuilding really is about genetic shape......don't claim it's about who can pump the most juice.

Take this example....top tier(Dexter) Vs 3rd Tier.

Don;t tell me it's drugs that seperates these two...ITS SHAPE....PRE DETERMINED!!!
Look at the round full arms of Dexter,,,


Then look at This guys.....




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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2009, 01:14:46 PM »
Every person has the same insertions and origins just differently shaped muscle bellies

Muscle  bellies are shaped from years of evolution for example the sartorius is a very long muscle as its only required for endurance type contraction.

However the vastus medialis is a short muscle as it is required for power.

You can even notice differences among race. For example look at the Asian quadricep.
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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2009, 01:16:12 PM »
Quote from: Balloon on January 09, 2009, 01:12:25 PM
Tope Tier Bodybuilding really is about genetic shape......don't claim it's about who can pump the most juice.

Take this example....top tier(Dexter) Vs 3rd Tier.

Don;t tell me it's drugs that seperates these two...ITS SHAPE....PRE DETERMINED!!!
Look at the round full arms of Dexter,,,


Then look at This guys.....





why do you keep accusing me of saying its all drugs ? of roucse genetic shape, muscle belies, insertions, bone structure, joint size, skin thicknes....they all play  HUGE part in determiining who has the btter physique. because its nto who is the most conditioned and biggest, its who LOOKS the most biggest and conditioned (ILLUSION)


anyway, the guy has good arm insertions and muscle belies. biceps and tricep stretch across entire upper arm bone. muscle belly is almost 100% over the area.

dexters arms are simple MUCH MUCH more developed, as well as probaly having smaller elbow joint, making his arm muscle look bigger.
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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2009, 01:17:49 PM »
Quote from: tbombz on January 09, 2009, 01:16:12 PM
why do you keep accusing me of saying its all drugs ? of roucse genetic shape, muscle belies, insertions, bone structure, joint size, skin thicknes....they all play  HUGE part in determiining who has the btter physique. because its nto who is the most conditioned and biggest, its who LOOKS the most biggest and conditioned (ILLUSION)


anyway, the guy has good arm insertions and muscle belies. biceps and tricep stretch across entire upper arm bone. muscle belly is almost 100% over the area.

dexters arms are simple MUCH MUCH more developed, as well as probaly having smaller elbow joint, making his arm muscle look bigger.
So are u suggesting that this guy's arms could look like Dexter's with more time in the gym? just simply a matter of developing them further?...

C'mon man  ::)
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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2009, 01:20:14 PM »
Quote from: Balloon on January 09, 2009, 01:17:49 PM
So are u suggesting that this guy's arms could look like Dexter's with more time in the gym? just simply a matter of developing them further?...

C'mon man  ::)
no, i didnt say that. dexter has smaller joints, and thinner skin. and maybe the guy just doesnt have the ability to grow his bis and tris big enough to make them appear to be as big as dexters. im sure he could get them as large or much larger.


why are you trying to argue ? your having a bad day arent you
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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2009, 01:22:31 PM »
Quote from: tbombz on January 09, 2009, 01:20:14 PM
no, i didnt say that. dexter has smaller joints, and thinner skin. and maybe the guy just doesnt have the ability to grow his bis and tris big enough to make them appear to be as big as dexters. im sure he could get them as large or much larger.


why are you trying to argue ? your having a bad day arent you

I know ur taking roids, i just hope u realise ur limit in terms of your own genetic potential..

U either have or DO NOT HAVE the genetic shape to be a pro,,,

I just don't want ya thinking that drug cocktails are gonna get u to the top...

Just lookin out for ya  :P
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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2009, 01:23:56 PM »
dexter had better arms than that fello when he was a teenager
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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2009, 01:24:09 PM »
Most top pros were very skinny as young kids.
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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2009, 01:24:53 PM »
Quote from: Balloon on January 09, 2009, 01:22:31 PM
I know ur taking roids, i just hope u realise ur limit in terms of your own genetic potential..

U either have or DO NOT HAVE the genetic shape to be a pro,,,

I just don't want ya thinking that drug cocktails are gonna get u to the top...

Just lookin out for ya  :P
you dont know anything about my genetic shape ..  :)
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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2009, 01:26:35 PM »
Quote from: Balloon on January 09, 2009, 12:44:35 PM
this guy is juiced to the gills.

BUT

He also has the worst genetics for SHAPE in the world.
Proof that Drugs cannot achieve an amazing physique ON THEIR OWN....alot of guys saying "all drugs"....

GENETICS RULE THE ROOST


he was walking arounf the olympia with alimini
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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2009, 01:33:23 PM »
Quote from: Balloon on January 09, 2009, 12:59:43 PM
How do i KNow?

Take a look at the shape of his arms!


large, but...
Horrible genetic shape.



agree... guy looks like a mess....
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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2009, 02:44:36 PM »
You didn't pick out a very good example of bad genetic muscle shape, thus most people here are not supporting your claim.
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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2009, 02:50:23 PM »
huga barrel torso
shapeless arms....
no bi peak
wide waiste....
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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2009, 02:50:51 PM »
FWIW, example dude is a nice guy. He's at Gold's Venice all the time. Quick easy smile. Always says hi. Dude's cool.
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