Author Topic: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE  (Read 14842 times)

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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #50 on: January 10, 2009, 08:15:13 AM »
you've sorely missed the point of the comment "all drugs".

its nothing to do with genetics (the comment that is).

i cant recall anyone claiming that gear altered, or adjusted, or enhanced genetics.  size and conditioning- sure...but genetics- nope.


Actually the wrong drugs and synthol can make bad genetics even worse. For example, I would bet if this guy was in the 70's and only using the drugs back then (No GH, Insulin, IGf-1 or synthol)he'd look 100 times better. First of all his waist would be about 4 inches smaller so his taper would be better. With the smaller abdomen his chest would look better. In other words,the Palumboism effect would be greatly minimized and this guy would look very good.

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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #51 on: January 10, 2009, 08:18:27 AM »
this guy is juiced to the gills.

BUT

He also has the worst genetics for SHAPE in the world.
Proof that Drugs cannot achieve an amazing physique ON THEIR OWN....alot of guys saying "all drugs"....

GENETICS RULE THE ROOST



AAHAHAHAH!!!  You'd kill your wife, children and parents to look like him for 20 minutes.

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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #52 on: January 10, 2009, 08:21:34 AM »
AAHAHAHAH!!!  You'd kill your wife, children and parents to look like him for 20 minutes.
exactly right as would ANY non IFBB pro on here.

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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #53 on: January 10, 2009, 08:31:47 AM »
he doesn't have great muscle belly shape, but he's still a pro, and still dwarfs his former self.

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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #54 on: January 10, 2009, 08:32:08 AM »
exactly right as would ANY non IFBB pro on here.
AAHAHAHAH!!!  You'd kill your wife, children and parents to look like him for 20 minutes.
No way,
Mesomorph actually looks better than this guy, muich better genetics.
This guy has a 43 inch waist, and the most "shapeless arms" in the history of roid abusers.
Disgusting.
AND...........he is a midget!  :o



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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #56 on: January 11, 2009, 01:59:55 AM »
well insertions and muscle bellies can never be changed with anything, except maybe surgery.

this guy has big muscle bellies and good insertions though.

do you even know what those are ? look at him again.
I dont know what pic you are looking at but he has poor muscle bellies and insertions .especialy his arms ,christ they are worse than sharis

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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #57 on: January 11, 2009, 02:10:07 AM »
he will never win a plastic trophy.

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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #58 on: January 11, 2009, 02:21:29 AM »


In this pic, he truly looks like shit. GENETICS play a mayor role in bbing.

whoever argues  ::)

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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #59 on: January 11, 2009, 02:22:20 AM »
The last place in every show is reserved for him already  :P
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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #60 on: January 11, 2009, 05:47:55 AM »
there are always 4th tier competitors in every SPORT.. :(

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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #61 on: January 11, 2009, 05:51:20 AM »


In this pic, he truly looks like shit. GENETICS play a mayor role in bbing.

whoever argues  ::)

What the hell is he smiling about?  The fat guy on the left has a smaller waistline.

Slin city.  The 'gut cycle' needs to go. 

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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #62 on: January 11, 2009, 06:02:08 AM »

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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #63 on: January 11, 2009, 06:06:02 AM »
he doesn't have great muscle belly shape, but he's still a pro, and still dwarfs his former self.

im willing to bet he looked better as a natural... not as big but better
choice is an illusion

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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #64 on: January 11, 2009, 06:29:18 AM »
AAHAHAHAH!!!  You'd kill your wife, children and parents to look like him for 20 minutes.

sure  ::).

see below.

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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #65 on: January 11, 2009, 08:42:58 AM »


In this pic, he truly looks like shit. GENETICS play a mayor role in bbing.

whoever argues  ::)
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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #66 on: January 11, 2009, 08:52:28 AM »
I dont know what pic you are looking at but he has poor muscle bellies and insertions .especialy his arms ,christ they are worse than sharis
muscl bellys and insertions. muscle bellys are "good' when the stretch the entire area which the muscle covers. bigger muscle belies are better than smaller ones. a 'muscle belly' is a term for the actual muscle, of the muscle, not the whiet part tendon type stuf  where the muscle inserts to the bone.   insertions are 'good' when they insert at the farthest possible place down the bone where they are suppost to insert. for back, this means down at the hips. for arms, this means inserts up by the shoulder and down by the elbow (spanning the entire distancee of the upper arm bone).


if you look at his muscle bellies and insertions on his arms, both are good. insert at the very top and the very bottom for both bi's and tri's, and muscle bellies make up entirety of the muscle.

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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #67 on: January 11, 2009, 05:56:38 PM »
muscl bellys and insertions. muscle bellys are "good' when the stretch the entire area which the muscle covers. bigger muscle belies are better than smaller ones. a 'muscle belly' is a term for the actual muscle, of the muscle, not the whiet part tendon type stuf  where the muscle inserts to the bone.   insertions are 'good' when they insert at the farthest possible place down the bone where they are suppost to insert. for back, this means down at the hips. for arms, this means inserts up by the shoulder and down by the elbow (spanning the entire distancee of the upper arm bone).


if you look at his muscle bellies and insertions on his arms, both are good. insert at the very top and the very bottom for both bi's and tri's, and muscle bellies make up entirety of the muscle.
His bis and tris insert very high. from the elbow.
Good muscle bellys for bodybuilding purposes should be full , look at the pic Of DEX ,thats a perfect exameple of full muscle bellys,small joints and on his arms his bis and tris insert closer to the elbow giving the illusion of even more fullness..

I have to disagree with you on this example  :)

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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #68 on: January 11, 2009, 10:11:59 PM »
Comparing him to Dexter Jackson is a bit harsh.

However, he doesn't have the best lines.. the waist is the main issue.

He's accomplished more than most of getbiggers will accomplish in bodybuilding.

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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #69 on: January 11, 2009, 10:20:00 PM »
His bis and tris insert very high. from the elbow.
Good muscle bellys for bodybuilding purposes should be full , look at the pic Of DEX ,thats a perfect exameple of full muscle bellys,small joints and on his arms his bis and tris insert closer to the elbow giving the illusion of even more fullness..

I have to disagree with you on this example  :)
okay i agree they are no where near as full as dexters. but that is because he is less developed. the posted was saying its because of genetics shape muscle bellies and insertins.    but that simply not the case with this guy.



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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #70 on: January 12, 2009, 04:38:39 PM »
bitter much?

says the guy with a picture of a well known steroid dealer/ chemist, murderer, and industry rat proudly displayed in his avatar.

Amanda Jo Earhart-Savell's family should cut your nuts off.  As defensive as you are of steroid abusers you obviously have no use for testicles.

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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #71 on: January 12, 2009, 04:40:46 PM »
says the guy with a picture of a well known steroid dealer/ chemist, murderer, and industry rat proudly displayed in his avatar.

Amanda Jo Earhart-Savell's family should cut your nuts off.  As defensive as you are of steroid abusers you obviously have no use for testicles.

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Well, Amanda shouldn't have been hangin' with a dark character such as Craig and Kelly. She also shouldn't have been stealing from him, smoking meth and sleeping with him either.

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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #72 on: January 12, 2009, 04:46:41 PM »
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Well, Amanda shouldn't have been hangin' with a dark character such as Craig and Kelly. She also shouldn't have been stealing from him, smoking meth and sleeping with him either.

Jacobs was a scumbag, and he got what he deserved.  Whether he did it himself or someone else exterminated the rat...who cares.  She wasn't the rat that exposed cops and pro athletes.  Being a drug addict or some other scumbag's cum dumpster as you would paint her to be is still no reason to die.

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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #73 on: January 12, 2009, 04:59:45 PM »
Jacobs was a scumbag, and he got what he deserved.  Whether he did it himself or someone else exterminated the rat...who cares.  She wasn't the rat that exposed cops and pro athletes.  Being a drug addict or some other scumbag's cum dumpster as you would paint her to be is still no reason to die.

Fair enough. BUT, people put themselves in these situations most likely knowing that what they are doing is fucking nuts and the obvious happens.

Put yourself in stupid and awful situations and stupid/awful things will happen.

She fucked up, period. It is a terrible thing that happened, but why are all of us shocked that it took place?

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Re: Proof that steroids can't change GENETIC MUSCLE SHAPE
« Reply #74 on: January 12, 2009, 05:15:16 PM »
Tope Tier Bodybuilding really is about genetic shape......don't claim it's about who can pump the most juice.

Take this example....top tier(Dexter) Vs 3rd Tier.

Don;t tell me it's drugs that seperates these two...ITS SHAPE....PRE DETERMINED!!!
Look at the round full arms of Dexter,,,


Then look at This guys.....


Well, not everyone can be Dexter.
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