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Title: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: Kegdrainer on January 14, 2009, 06:51:08 PM
Everyone knows that cigarettes are bad for you, but Arnold smoked the weed and said it is the best relaxer after your workout and much less bad for you than pain pills and other drugs....

Anyone here a regular pot smoker?  Does it help recovery or does it sabotage your healthy eating when you get the "munchies"


Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: Yamalia on January 14, 2009, 06:53:13 PM
i used to smoke weed all the time.  the thought of it now makes me uncomfortable. it makes me too paranoied and uncomfortable, it is really unpleasant drug for me. i have no clue how i used to enjoy it so much
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: wolfgang187 on January 14, 2009, 06:55:05 PM
i used to smoke weed all the time.  the thought of it now makes me uncomfortable. it makes me too paranoied and uncomfortable, it is really unpleasant drug for me. i have no clue how i used to enjoy it so much



BING BANG BOOOOOM
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: Yamalia on January 14, 2009, 06:56:42 PM


BING BANG BOOOOOM
who is that?
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: Marty Champions on January 14, 2009, 07:01:17 PM
dont smoke weed during the day, it sets a lower "tone" physically when you need a high 'tone' physically during the day . its only beneficial in all ways at night
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: Kegdrainer on January 14, 2009, 07:01:40 PM
i love the anti pot commercials where it shows the kids all doing stupid things that pot smokers do...like passing out and their pot head friends draw on their face with sharpie.  

If that's the worst thing that happens to pot smokers than it can't be that bad.  It's not like you end up like some 15 year old trailer park whore getting pimped out by her 40 year old "daddy" to get gangbanged in the back of an abandoned GMC suburban for $30 worth of crushed up oxys and a pack of menthols.  

Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: WillGrant on January 14, 2009, 07:02:18 PM
i used to smoke weed all the time.  the thought of it now makes me uncomfortable. it makes me too paranoied and uncomfortable, it is really unpleasant drug for me. i have no clue how i used to enjoy it so much
Why do you think it does this?

You got it , it altars brain chemistry
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: Yamalia on January 14, 2009, 07:07:58 PM
Why do you think it does this?

You got it , it altars brain chemistry
yes its a drug
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: Kegdrainer on January 14, 2009, 07:15:02 PM
I don't think i would like to sit on the couch for more than an hour straight.
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: WillGrant on January 14, 2009, 07:17:16 PM
yes its a drug
Dude..Mental illness is no joke..
Avesher/Disturbia seems a good guy , he just has a chemical imbalance of the brain..think yourself lucky its not you instead of him..

The only thing I wish for him is he is getting proper help and is on the right meds so he can at least lead a semi normal life..

No need to hate on him..

To which you said..

chemical imbalance? there is no such thing...meds only mask the 'problem'.

Mental illness is a chemical imbalence of the brain..for you to claim otherwise is staggering...

 ???
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: TBUNZEE on January 14, 2009, 07:18:24 PM
Well it lowers your testosterone so that would be not the best for anyone wanting the edge on gaining muscle....It is relaxing but you can become conditioned to this chemically induced state to relax and eventually this can lead to a difficulty achieving it naturally without the drug....pyscholgical addiction through prolonged use is def. a reality while also killing brain cellls all seems like a substance you should consume in responsible moderation...
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: disco_stu on January 14, 2009, 07:19:04 PM
Everyone knows that cigarettes are bad for you, but Arnold smoked the weed and said it is the best relaxer after your workout and much less bad for you than pain pills and other drugs....

Anyone here a regular pot smoker?  Does it help recovery or does it sabotage your healthy eating when you get the "munchies"




it m,akes you think you're training harder than you are. its a nasty drug in many ways.

crap for BBing.
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: TBUNZEE on January 14, 2009, 07:23:25 PM
Totally agree with you disco stu just like it increases enjoyment and sensitivity at a music concert it also leads to you thinking you trained harder then you really did through the altered sensitivity of awareness when in reality you most def. did not train harder...find something else to relax you because most people always point to this fact...get a girl and get some nice head or read a book and get smarter, etc but their is so much more to life then wasting your money on smoke...
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: Kegdrainer on January 14, 2009, 07:31:11 PM
how much does it cost to get high?  When I used to drink I could probably get away with 1/2 liter of booze or a 12 pack of beer is pretty cheap, 20 bucks at the most.

Plus if you smoke blunts aren't you smoking tobacco also?  My health insurance just introduces smokers premium this year that charges 20% more for smokers.   Good idea I think.
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: nodeal on January 14, 2009, 07:32:11 PM
dont smoke weed during the day, it sets a lower "tone" physically when you need a high 'tone' physically during the day . its only beneficial in all ways at night

indeed
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: TBUNZEE on January 14, 2009, 07:38:29 PM
10 bucks canadian would get you some primo British Columbia hydro weed that would get you and a couple buddies very high for the night along with some nice dead brain cells and a nice pot lazy hangover the next day no doubt...
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: solida on January 14, 2009, 08:11:05 PM
I live in BC, just because absolutely everyone smokes it here doesn't make it magical.
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: The Coach on January 14, 2009, 08:14:16 PM
I hated weed.
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: TBUNZEE on January 14, 2009, 08:15:23 PM
Never said it was magical...I live in Winnipeg and I know whats up who the hell said its magical...nobody on this thread except you bud...
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: dustin on January 14, 2009, 08:47:16 PM
I do. I also live in BC. We're pretty blessed but it's not like 1 toke will send you on an acid trip. Very synergistic for some people. Others become burnt out from the cannabinoids or much too anxious and hyped up from the THC. I fall right in the middle and respond very favorably.

Used to smoke pounds of it but really cut back when I started to smarten up and act like an adult. Now I indulge in a toke or two almost everyday and then take long breaks. I toke just before the gym or when I get a headache. Never more than a few tokes though. Honestly, you can smoke half an ounce or half a joint and the joint will get you nearly as high. I've smoked everything in the magazines from the compassion clubs up here. Some strains are amazing but same with damn near everything off the street. Lots of kush and burmese lately :)
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: 240 is Back on January 14, 2009, 09:03:11 PM
never have.  I've been in the room with bands, jamming, where they've done it hundreds of times.  Never had any urge at all.  If I want a buzz, there's always a sexy glass of wine with my name on it.


gayer than...
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: SS on January 14, 2009, 09:05:55 PM
Everyone knows that cigarettes are bad for you, but Arnold smoked the weed and said it is the best relaxer after your workout and much less bad for you than pain pills and other drugs....

Anyone here a regular pot smoker?  Does it help recovery or does it sabotage your healthy eating when you get the "munchies"



Does it ever make you get real delusional and fantasize about carrying 530lb stones 30ft in your moms front yard ;D
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: ASJChaotic on January 14, 2009, 09:08:54 PM
NO DRUGS!!!!!!!  >:(

hardcore drug free!
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: dustin on January 14, 2009, 09:36:59 PM
The problem is it makes you lazy and can lead to other drugs.

Both of those myths have been debunked by hundreds of credible people. That's simply untrue. People who have addictive personalities will experiment with many drugs including marijuana, which is why the statistics suggest that it's a "gateway" drug. Studies over the past few decades have concluded that it's not a gateway drug.

People are beginning to accept psychedelics, including marijuana, to be a deterrent for hard drugs. My father has been addicted to pills and opiates especially after his second motorcycle accident. When he smokes marijuana, he's able to tough it out without heavy pain killers and sedatives. And the dude's had his femur broken TWICE in the past 5 years. Broke his back too. I'm amazed to see him walking. When he smokes the chron with us he's able to turn the other cheek from the bottle of pain pills.
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: WillGrant on January 14, 2009, 09:42:22 PM
Both of those myths have been debunked by hundreds of credible people. That's simply untrue. People who have addictive personalities will experiment with many drugs including marijuana, which is why the statistics suggest that it's a "gateway" drug. Studies over the past few decades have concluded that it's not a gateway drug.

People are beginning to accept psychedelics, including marijuana, to be a deterrent for hard drugs. My father has been addicted to pills and opiates especially after his second motorcycle accident. When he smokes marijuana, he's able to tough it out without heavy pain killers and sedatives. And the dude's had his femur broken TWICE in the past 5 years. Broke his back too. I'm amazed to see him walking. When he smokes the chron with us he's able to turn the other cheek from the bottle of pain pills.
Not on both..It does cause motivation problems when used more than the odd joint..

In regards to gateway , thats debatable I cant really see how a credible study could be done that tbh with you.
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: nzmusclemonster on January 14, 2009, 10:18:19 PM
never have.  I've been in the room with bands, jamming, where they've done it hundreds of times.  Never had any urge at all.  If I want a buzz, there's always a sexy glass of wine with my name on it.


gayer than...

And you call yourself a rock star  :(
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: dustin on January 14, 2009, 11:27:31 PM
Not on both..It does cause motivation problems when used more than the odd joint..

In regards to gateway , thats debatable I cant really see how a credible study could be done that tbh with you.

To be fair, any addiction can lead to amotivational syndrome. When I was working hard labor (rock quarry supervisor) it felt like everyday was my last day on earth I worked so God damn hard. The night shift foreman was a chronic and we all brought lots of weed and smoked on every break. We took extra breaks and always ended up hitting quota (and then some) whenever we smoked weed. It turns you into a machine as long as the gears are turning before the dreaded couch lock sets in.

Same thing with the gym. I've tried AAS and tons of recreational drugs and stims, whatever. But seriously, nothing tops the mind muscle connection you get with marijuana. MJ + dbol LOL!!! I'm half joking but also pretty serious. I know NPC competitors and a professional bodybuilder (IFBB pro) who smokes weed before workouts. Another IFBB pro I've met doesn't smoke weed anymore before he trains, but he's not opposed to the idea. He's been in the game for a long time but I can't say his name because he lurks here. Some people CANNOT smoke before the gym though, but to each his own. As long as the opinion is based on experience and intelligence, I can respect that. Propagandist statements make me immediately ignore anyone's opinion.

I'm all for people with chronic pain smoking weed instead of adictive pain killers.  I just don't think this shit should be 100% legal to where kids ect. without a med. reason are just smoking for fun.  I think it does have negative side effects.

For sure, dude. Kids shouldn't be using any drugs recreationally. The brain is a precious thing and the development through the adolescent years is pivotal for proper cognitive development. I confide to using psychedelics during my late teens, but fortunately for me I turned out okay.

 I was honestly pretty suicidal and my intrigue for psychedelic exploration and expansion staved these feelings. Before I knew it I was meditating for months before I tripped and became pretty sound. I tripped a few times, some good, some bad, and I experienced complete ego loss on my last day of school. It was the most horrendous, lucid nightmare that you can't even fathom unless you're tripping on many different planes of existence. When I came down I had a glowing, somewhat "mystical" experience and felt closer to "God" and the universe than I had ever felt. By this time, I was sober enough to review my thoughts and many lessons learned. That was the single most important day of my life. I did a complete 180 and never looked back. Broke up with my stupid ass girlfriend, become closer to my family and true friends, started becoming wiser with my money and started investing time in my well being. So for some people like myself, psychedelics, even mild ones like marijuana, have played a significant role in my life.

In the context of "drug use" one may point fingers from their high horse but I don't care. They are the ones who are being deprived. Not everyone responds too well to this drug and that's cool as well. But for those who do, please feel no shame as long as you do so intelligently and respectfully.

/rant
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on January 14, 2009, 11:37:54 PM
Both of those myths have been debunked by hundreds of credible people. That's simply untrue. People who have addictive personalities will experiment with many drugs including marijuana, which is why the statistics suggest that it's a "gateway" drug. Studies over the past few decades have concluded that it's not a gateway drug.

People are beginning to accept psychedelics, including marijuana, to be a deterrent for hard drugs. My father has been addicted to pills and opiates especially after his second motorcycle accident. When he smokes marijuana, he's able to tough it out without heavy pain killers and sedatives. And the dude's had his femur broken TWICE in the past 5 years. Broke his back too. I'm amazed to see him walking. When he smokes the chron with us he's able to turn the other cheek from the bottle of pain pills.

Opiate pain pills are the worst.  :-X
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: Stubborn on January 14, 2009, 11:45:42 PM
Opiate pain pills are the worst.  :-X


x2
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: dustin on January 14, 2009, 11:49:30 PM
Opiate pain pills are the worst.  :-X


My dad sold his opiates for heroin at one point. Smoked it and started mainlining it when he went on a bender. Got some extremely pure H and OD'ed. Hasn't touched the shit since. I feel for anyone who's got the opiate monkey on their back. I've seen people OD from opiates, kill themselves in a downward spiral of addiction or die from some sort of complication. They're nasty drugs when abused. Poor recreational value as your tolerance goes right through the roof too.
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on January 15, 2009, 12:01:10 AM
I know someone who's Dr. tried to get them off of opiates with Suboxone (which is an Opiate?) and they ended up abusing the Suboxone just as bad.
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on January 15, 2009, 12:02:51 AM
My dad sold his opiates for heroin at one point. Smoked it and started mainlining it when he went on a bender. Got some extremely pure H and OD'ed. Hasn't touched the shit since. I feel for anyone who's got the opiate monkey on their back. I've seen people OD from opiates, kill themselves in a downward spiral of addiction or die from some sort of complication. They're nasty drugs when abused. Poor recreational value as your tolerance goes right through the roof too.

Hope your dad is doing better.  I've seen what they do to people.  It's sad  :(
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: nodeal on January 15, 2009, 12:06:11 AM
Not on both..It does cause motivation problems when used more than the odd joint..

In regards to gateway , thats debatable I cant really see how a credible study could be done that tbh with you.

wrong and misguided.

I'm all for people with chronic pain smoking weed instead of adictive pain killers.  I just don't think this shit should be 100% legal to where kids ect. without a med. reason are just smoking for fun.  I think it does have negative side effects.

look around kids are smoking just for fun without a medical reason anyway. and if they have the money the guy with the weed is gonna sell it to them. at least if it was sold through an establishment bound by the law it would be harder to obtain without identification/someone willing to purchase for you. it was always easier for me to pick up a bag then it was for me to purchase alcohol when i was younger.
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: dustin on January 15, 2009, 12:09:08 AM
Hope your dad is doing better.  I've seen what they do to people.  It's sad  :(

Thanks, man. He's doing well. I've seen plenty of others that weren't so lucky though. And may they rest in peace.

This is a pretty good song that relates to it. Sorry for dragging the thread off topic though. ;D

Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: Sexual Mustard on January 15, 2009, 12:14:20 AM
I used to smoke it right after I graduated high school, but I have to admit that I think it was a phase just to fit in with other friends who were doing it. I stopped around 20-21, and never had a desire to pick it up again since (I'm 32 now). I'm not saying it doesn't benefit some, but after a while it didn't seem to do anything for me anymore.

Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on January 15, 2009, 12:17:58 AM
This is a pretty good song that relates to it.

I've listened to this song and I never knew that.

Gotta love Lynard Skynard  8)
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: WillGrant on January 15, 2009, 12:39:50 AM
To be fair, any addiction can lead to amotivational syndrome. When I was working hard labor (rock quarry supervisor) it felt like everyday was my last day on earth I worked so God damn hard. The night shift foreman was a chronic and we all brought lots of weed and smoked on every break. We took extra breaks and always ended up hitting quota (and then some) whenever we smoked weed. It turns you into a machine as long as the gears are turning before the dreaded couch lock sets in.

Same thing with the gym. I've tried AAS and tons of recreational drugs and stims, whatever. But seriously, nothing tops the mind muscle connection you get with marijuana. MJ + dbol LOL!!! I'm half joking but also pretty serious. I know NPC competitors and a professional bodybuilder (IFBB pro) who smokes weed before workouts. Another IFBB pro I've met doesn't smoke weed anymore before he trains, but he's not opposed to the idea. He's been in the game for a long time but I can't say his name because he lurks here. Some people CANNOT smoke before the gym though, but to each his own. As long as the opinion is based on experience and intelligence, I can respect that. Propagandist statements make me immediately ignore anyone's opinion.

For sure, dude. Kids shouldn't be using any drugs recreationally. The brain is a precious thing and the development through the adolescent years is pivotal for proper cognitive development. I confide to using psychedelics during my late teens, but fortunately for me I turned out okay.

 I was honestly pretty suicidal and my intrigue for psychedelic exploration and expansion staved these feelings. Before I knew it I was meditating for months before I tripped and became pretty sound. I tripped a few times, some good, some bad, and I experienced complete ego loss on my last day of school. It was the most horrendous, lucid nightmare that you can't even fathom unless you're tripping on many different planes of existence. When I came down I had a glowing, somewhat "mystical" experience and felt closer to "God" and the universe than I had ever felt. By this time, I was sober enough to review my thoughts and many lessons learned. That was the single most important day of my life. I did a complete 180 and never looked back. Broke up with my stupid ass girlfriend, become closer to my family and true friends, started becoming wiser with my money and started investing time in my well being. So for some people like myself, psychedelics, even mild ones like marijuana, have played a significant role in my life.

In the context of "drug use" one may point fingers from their high horse but I don't care. They are the ones who are being deprived. Not everyone responds too well to this drug and that's cool as well. But for those who do, please feel no shame as long as you do so intelligently and respectfully.

/rant
This again is your experience ,there are plenty more who have the opposite reaction to what you had..
Smoking the odd joint for most people will have little or no effect on health or motivation.once you become a "hardened" smoker then watch "some" turn into cabbages..the thing is you dont see it till you are away from it,I didnt realise how bad I was till I stoped..it makes you think you are doing a good job but to those around you that are straight it is a different picture..I cant speak for you because I never saw you stoned but I have worked with enough guys who blazed on the job ,they think they are doing an amazing job but reality is they wernt.

I used to train with a guy who liked to get stoned before training and he used to say "that was the best workout ever" which used to leave me thinking WTF , bro you trained like a girl..

As far as gateway is concerned , this like you say depends alot on the personality of the user but still remains very real for this type of person ,so studys cant say it doesnt lead to other things because for some it can..

I am no means on a high horse as Im a reformed heavy smoker myself so know the dangers of "abuse"..I was an all day every day smoker , I never saw a problem but to those around me that didnt smoke I was on constant go slow..

I think it should be alowwed for those with chronic pain , your Dad for one and I hope he is ok :)

Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: WillGrant on January 15, 2009, 12:41:51 AM
wrong and misguided.


All I can say to you is Ditto mate.
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: Tapeworm on January 15, 2009, 01:04:17 AM
Smoked hard for a few years in my youth.  It wasn't doing anything good for me and I was pretty bored with it so I quit.

I bought my first nickel bag in over ten years back in '06 & it's still in my desk drawer at about 80% full.  Been very lightly stoned three times since then.  At this rate a nickel bag should last me about 10 years. 
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: Wiggs on January 15, 2009, 01:48:00 AM
I tried for the first time the day after I got out of the military.  Worst shit ever.  It was chronic (I guess that's good shit).  I took three hits and I was paranoid, talking in a southern accent and tripping out bad.  Worst shit ever.  Not for me. I'll stick with vicodin.
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on January 15, 2009, 02:12:33 AM
This again is your experience ,there are plenty more who have the opposite reaction to what you had..
Smoking the odd joint for most people will have little or no effect on health or motivation.once you become a "hardened" smoker then watch "some" turn into cabbages..the thing is you dont see it till you are away from it,I didnt realise how bad I was till I stoped..it makes you think you are doing a good job but to those around you that are straight it is a different picture..I cant speak for you because I never saw you stoned but I have worked with enough guys who blazed on the job ,they think they are doing an amazing job but reality is they wernt.

I used to train with a guy who liked to get stoned before training and he used to say "that was the best workout ever" which used to leave me thinking WTF , bro you trained like a girl..

As far as gateway is concerned , this like you say depends alot on the personality of the user but still remains very real for this type of person ,so studys cant say it doesnt lead to other things because for some it can..

I am no means on a high horse as Im a reformed heavy smoker myself so know the dangers of "abuse"..I was an all day every day smoker , I never saw a problem but to those around me that didnt smoke I was on constant go slow..

I think it should be alowed for those with chronic pain , your Dad for one and I hope he is ok :)


Weed is NO gateway drug, simple statistics. around 60% of inhabitants of holland have tried weed (remember, weed is legal there), the number of heroin/coke/whatever users is so much lower.

The chances of a person coming into contact with weed is far greater than harddrugs. Besides that even people with an addictive personality usually have the common sense to start of with soft drugs.

I think weed on a recreational basis (few spliffs in the weekend) is ok. Daily use is an addiction and I've seen a few pothead ex-collegues lay wast to their memory this way.
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: Get Rowdy on January 15, 2009, 02:57:33 AM
Just occasionally with friends.  Fun, but I wouldn't do it regularly 'cause it kinda feels like it's damaging my singing voice.
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: ASJChaotic on January 15, 2009, 07:11:04 AM
Just occasionally with friends.  Fun, but I wouldn't do it regularly 'cause it kinda feels like it's damaging my singing voice.

LIE, we all know you got your own garden of weed, stud.
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: pumpster on January 15, 2009, 11:31:35 AM
Love the high, the key is moderation without which the abuse of it or anything including something society-approved/legal like alcohol becomes negative. Most of the burnouts here who are anti-weed remind me of born-again christians, overdoing it followed by a reaction against it later. Stay balanced and it's a great, organic enhancer. Alot of the best music over the last decades was created within minds freed of the usual conventions.

As far as paranoia, that's a symptom related IMO to age/experience and context. Classic experience is getting completely disoriented smoking in social contexts. I'd say that for most that's a matter of getting aclimated to it while keeping the contexts to those that appeal. Get to know the right context for it and get used to it and it's not generally gonna be a problem, plus you can add a drink or two along the way to smooth it out further.









Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: divcom on January 15, 2009, 11:43:39 AM
I tried for the first time the day after I got out of the military.  Worst shit ever.  It was chronic (I guess that's good shit).  I took three hits and I was paranoid, talking in a southern accent and tripping out bad.  Worst shit ever.  Not for me. I'll stick with vicodin.

and would that be crushed vicodin in a crucible?

(http://www.budgetcastingsupply.com/images/Crucible_Data_Bartley-1.jpg)
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: Option D on January 15, 2009, 11:44:49 AM
I PREFER CRACK PERSONALLY
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: sinbad on January 15, 2009, 12:14:46 PM
Love the high, the key is moderation without which the abuse of it or anything including something society-approved/legal like alcohol becomes negative. Most of the burnouts here who are anti-weed remind me of born-again christians, overdoing it followed by a reaction against it later. Stay balanced and it's a great, organic enhancer. Alot of the best music over the last decades was created within minds freed of the usual conventions.

As far as paranoia, that's a symptom related IMO to age/experience and context. Classic experience is getting completely disoriented smoking in social contexts. I'd say that for most that's a matter of getting aclimated to it while keeping the contexts to those that appeal. Get to know the right context for it and get used to it and it's not generally gonna be a problem, plus you can add a drink or two along the way to smooth it out further.











spot on.
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: Mars on January 15, 2009, 12:26:53 PM
haha that movie is hilarious.
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: dustin on January 15, 2009, 05:01:41 PM
This again is your experience ,there are plenty more who have the opposite reaction to what you had..
Smoking the odd joint for most people will have little or no effect on health or motivation.once you become a "hardened" smoker then watch "some" turn into cabbages..the thing is you dont see it till you are away from it,I didnt realise how bad I was till I stoped..it makes you think you are doing a good job but to those around you that are straight it is a different picture..I cant speak for you because I never saw you stoned but I have worked with enough guys who blazed on the job ,they think they are doing an amazing job but reality is they wernt.

I used to train with a guy who liked to get stoned before training and he used to say "that was the best workout ever" which used to leave me thinking WTF , bro you trained like a girl..

As far as gateway is concerned , this like you say depends alot on the personality of the user but still remains very real for this type of person ,so studys cant say it doesnt lead to other things because for some it can..

I am no means on a high horse as Im a reformed heavy smoker myself so know the dangers of "abuse"..I was an all day every day smoker , I never saw a problem but to those around me that didnt smoke I was on constant go slow..

I think it should be alowwed for those with chronic pain , your Dad for one and I hope he is ok :)



I can appreciate that. I don't agree but I can certainly agree to disagree, especially considering how you've actually smoked it. It serves more medicinal purpose in my life than anything. I get chronic migraines and I've tried a myriad of drugs that shot my liver, ironically INDUCED more painful migraines, etc. My doc got the forms to apply for a medical marijuana referral but I don't think I've tried enough pharms to qualify. Either way, I just go to the compassion clubs anyway or talk to the growers themselves.

Thanks for the kind words too. If someone's opposed to the idea of marijuana in a medicinal or recreational application, that's okay as long as it's not based on propaganda. For the most part, people in general suck dog dick. People have addictive personalities, are burnt out to begin with and ruin things for responsible, educated adults. I'm not trying to sit up on a high horse either (no pun intended), but I think I've got my ducks in a row. Good job, getting engaged, will have a house in the next few years, fucking stoked on life, etc... a toke here and there hasn't proved to impede my responsibilities. I mostly just toke when I get a headache, before the gym, before sex or when I'm with a good friend. I always smoke a minimal amount and make sure I get the maximum satisfaction from it, otherwise I won't even bother to spark one up.


Damn, this thread really makes me want to take a toke!! Chest day at the gym and I'm stiff, so I'll have a toke. Haven't had one in a few days. :)
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: tbombz on January 15, 2009, 05:08:05 PM
i took a rip off of a water bong before i trained today...as always, awesome workout. 
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: windsor88 on January 15, 2009, 05:09:31 PM
i took a rip off of a water bong before i trained today...as always, awesome workout. 

lol.
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: 2ND COMING on January 15, 2009, 05:23:27 PM
havn't done in a couple months...i won't until i find a "genuine" dealer.

it wreaked havic on my cardiovascular....can never get to 100% on days i smoke...feels like i have something extra holding me down.
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: tbombz on January 15, 2009, 05:24:02 PM
lol.
its like a waterbong/pipe... something you might see a wizard carrying around.. after the workout blaxed a gram.. still high
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: Get Rowdy on January 15, 2009, 07:51:09 PM
LIE, we all know you got your own garden of weed, stud.

 :P
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: webcake on January 15, 2009, 07:52:42 PM
I've never tried weed.....
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: ASJChaotic on January 15, 2009, 07:53:15 PM
:P

this one is for you
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: Smokincrazy on January 15, 2009, 08:06:56 PM
Im all about it.  Join NORML and lets get it legalized
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: pumpster on January 15, 2009, 08:08:07 PM


it wreaked havic on my cardiovascular....can never get to 100% on days i smoke...feels like i have something extra holding me down.

BROWNIES

VAPORIZER
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: disco_stu on January 16, 2009, 11:09:37 PM
i took a rip off of a water bong before i trained today...as always, awesome workout. 

it always feels like that..but it never is.

it takes several years to finally work that out. up until that point, no one can tell you different. they are all dumb fucks and you are the one whos right.

all you have to do is write down your sessions over a period of time, then compare. the numbers dont lie.

when you look back, youll see that you either didnt improve at all, or went backwards.

Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: garebear on January 16, 2009, 11:53:27 PM
it always feels like that..but it never is.

it takes several years to finally work that out. up until that point, no one can tell you different. they are all dumb fucks and you are the one whos right.

all you have to do is write down your sessions over a period of time, then compare. the numbers dont lie.

when you look back, youll see that you either didnt improve at all, or went backwards.



What if you're ENJOYING the workout more and still progressing?
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: dustin on January 17, 2009, 09:10:59 AM
it always feels like that..but it never is.

it takes several years to finally work that out. up until that point, no one can tell you different. they are all dumb fucks and you are the one whos right.

all you have to do is write down your sessions over a period of time, then compare. the numbers dont lie.

when you look back, youll see that you either didnt improve at all, or went backwards.



I HAVE written down my numbers and I continually improved. There are idiots who train slack whether or not they're high, but there will always be idiots.
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: disco_stu on January 17, 2009, 01:11:11 PM
I HAVE written down my numbers and I continually improved. There are idiots who train slack whether or not they're high, but there will always be idiots.

were you going to improve over that timeframe anyway?...

dont oversimplify this. like i said, no amount of me telling you that it robs you of that ability to go the extra rep- either cardiovascularly, or psychologically- is going to make those who do it believe me.

you just keep going dude. good luck to you. im sure you're training as hard as you can possibly do so. You know you are dont you?

Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: dustin on January 18, 2009, 08:14:58 AM
were you going to improve over that timeframe anyway?...

dont oversimplify this. like i said, no amount of me telling you that it robs you of that ability to go the extra rep- either cardiovascularly, or psychologically- is going to make those who do it believe me.

you just keep going dude. good luck to you. im sure you're training as hard as you can possibly do so. You know you are dont you?



Don't tell me not to over simplify things. Don't over analyze things and make assumptions about thousands of lifters and a compound that you clearly have no understanding of.
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: disco_stu on January 18, 2009, 02:57:26 PM
Don't tell me not to over simplify things. Don't over analyze things and make assumptions about thousands of lifters and a compound that you clearly have no understanding of.

err, yeah ok.

i spent 10 years studying it and how it competes for receptors in the brain.

you just run along now ok?..

Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: nodeal on January 18, 2009, 09:35:19 PM
err, yeah ok.

i spent 10 years studying it and how it competes for receptors in the brain.

you just run along now ok?..


sorry if im misinterpreting this but you studied marijuana for 10 years? wow? how come? what's your profession?
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: garebear on January 19, 2009, 12:09:03 AM
sorry if im misinterpreting this but you studied marijuana for 10 years? wow? how come? what's your profession?

Haven't we all been studying it all along?
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: nodeal on January 19, 2009, 12:56:04 AM
Haven't we all been studying it all along?

haha i like your logic sir
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: Euro-monster on January 19, 2009, 11:17:36 AM
I grow and sell that shit but i never smoke it because that way im loosing money... ;)
Title: Re: weed...whos smokes it here?
Post by: disco_stu on January 19, 2009, 03:52:44 PM
sorry if im misinterpreting this but you studied marijuana for 10 years? wow? how come? what's your profession?

im an engineering and med grad.

studied mech eng and psychiatry.

(not at the same time)