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Title: MY HERO
Post by: jimijimi on February 02, 2009, 07:15:52 PM
What was 56% of America thinking when they voted  this clown to be President?
Now people are seeing the truth and his popularity went from 80% down now to 55%
Great leaders he's picked in his cabinet, lets see is it 2 or 3 of them who haven't paid
their taxes and one of them was making $80.000 a month but he still put them in the cabinet
I guess the media and you obama fans have created a star for your President.
Wake up America we have enough stars in the country what we need is someone who
can run the damm country not some one who never even ran a business or antything else.
He's winging it and taking advice from total lieing and cheating assholes who just want to keep
their pockets full and not pay taxes. What would happen to you or me if we did't pay the
$120.000 to the IRS? We would go to jail not get a chair in the cabinet.
And now he's going to spend a Trillon dollars on worthless bullshit, what the fuc...
Some of you fuc...s just don't get it.  My hero O BUM A !!
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: 240 is Back on February 02, 2009, 07:24:15 PM

Now people are seeing the truth and his popularity went from 80% down now to 55%

link?
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 02, 2009, 07:33:05 PM
What was 56% of America thinking when they voted  this clown to be President?
Now people are seeing the truth and his popularity went from 80% down now to 55%
Great leaders he's picked in his cabinet, lets see is it 2 or 3 of them who haven't paid
their taxes and one of them was making $80.000 a month but he still put them in the cabinet
I guess the media and you obama fans have created a star for your President.
Wake up America we have enough stars in the country what we need is someone who
can run the damm country not some one who never even ran a business or antything else.
He's winging it and taking advice from total lieing and cheating assholes who just want to keep
their pockets full and not pay taxes. What would happen to you or me if we did't pay the
$120.000 to the IRS? We would go to jail not get a chair in the cabinet.
And now he's going to spend a Trillon dollars on worthless bullshit, what the fuc...
Some of you fuc...s just don't get it.  My hero O BUM A !!

could you be more full of shit ::)

http://www.pollingreport.com/obama_fav.htm
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 02, 2009, 07:35:08 PM
Feb 2nd

Obama Approval High Despite 'Worry, Don't Be Happy' Mood

http://news.yahoo.com/s/cq/20090202/pl_cq_politics/politics3022633_1
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: jimijimi on February 02, 2009, 07:36:57 PM
On a major news channel, CNBC i would say the biggest asshole on T.V Keith Olberman is eating his words
along with his dike side kick.
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: jimijimi on February 02, 2009, 07:49:34 PM
could you be more full of shit ::)

http://www.pollingreport.com/obama_fav.htm

Hugo Dispite or differances i think obuma is full of it or plain stupid if he thinks this spending of
1 Trillion dollars is going to help the economy. Hugo where do you think the money is coming from?
Your pocket and mine and guess what we are paying for, well Six hundred million is going for new cars
for the Federal goverment and 50 million is going to awarness of STD's only about 20% of the money
might help the economy. How about give me 600 million and i will buy everyone a car.
Hugo even some democrates are having second thoughts. Try watching both sides of this
like CNBC and FOX news. What they should really do is give the people $100.000 each and we will put it back in the economy, the people are who makes up the economy so Hugo tell me you would be against that plan??
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: jimijimi on February 02, 2009, 07:54:22 PM
Feb 2nd

Obama Approval High Despite 'Worry, Don't Be Happy' Mood

http://news.yahoo.com/s/cq/20090202/pl_cq_politics/politics3022633_1

And Hugo do you love America? if so why do you call yourself Hugo Cheves ? He's a man who hates America
and i have no respect for him. Maybe you hate America? I'm sure your not American or maybe you don't
even live in this country?
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: CQ on February 02, 2009, 07:55:54 PM
Paragraph breaks are free.
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: 240 is Back on February 02, 2009, 07:57:27 PM
Now people are seeing the truth and his popularity went from 80% down now to 55%

LMAO - you are pretty wrong dude.

Yahoo said he's actually getting slightly more popular, according to gallup.

Obama's job performance drew 67 percent approval in the poll results published Sunday, a rolling average of three days of polling among 1,600 adults nationwide. This was exactly the same figure as the previous Monday -- even though the week saw the Democratic-controlled House pass a massive economic stimulus bill without a single Republican vote, and former Sen. Tom Daschle, seeking confirmation to be Obama's secretary of Health and Human Services, became the latest Cabinet appointee to fess up that he had made a large payment to cover back taxes.
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: CQ on February 02, 2009, 08:00:53 PM
Seriously, 4 more years left of him, senseless whining at this point. No matter who got in, economy is a mess has been for a while - and will be for a while. I doubt any of us will starve to death so let's keep it real here.
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 02, 2009, 08:11:47 PM
jimi, how about you can the bullshit and just tell us where you found your approval ratings plunge for Obama. 
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 02, 2009, 08:53:04 PM
jimijizzm once again proves what a tard he is.
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: jimijimi on February 02, 2009, 09:20:24 PM
When he was running for president it was all about the people right, so lets stop giving the CEO's and the rich
the money and give it to the people who will put it back into the economy and pay Cr. cards, morgage payments
and funnel some back into the economy. If we are able to spend money and pay these companies who are getting the bail outs
then they would't need to be bailed out. Think about it if the people can't afford to make payments to these companies then
next year they will be asking for another bail out at our exspense. Don't the people make the economy work? their bailing out
these companies but the compaines are laying thousands off.
So i ask you would you agree on the goverment giving every U.S citizen a Hundred Thousand dollars ?
Most of us would put it back into the economy by shopping, paying bills and so on, why not try it.
But i guess non of you would be for it? So let give it to the greedy CEO's and they can take their Four Hundred Thousand dollar
mini vacations or buy a 54 million dollar lear jet. I'm with you guys but it's time to try something different. CHANGE
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: jimijimi on February 02, 2009, 09:28:05 PM
jimijizzm once again proves what a tard he is.

So LurkerNoMore you would't agree with what i wrote under this?

When he was running for president it was all about the people right, so lets stop giving the CEO's and the rich
the money and give it to the people who will put it back into the economy and pay Cr. cards, morgage payments
and funnel some back into the economy. If we are able to spend money and pay these companies who are getting the bail outs
then they would't need to be bailed out. Think about it if the people can't afford to make payments to these companies then
next year they will be asking for another bail out at our exspense. Don't the people make the economy work? their bailing out
these companies but the compaines are laying thousands off.
So i ask you would you agree on the goverment giving every U.S citizen a Hundred Thousand dollars ?
Most of us would put it back into the economy by shopping, paying bills and so on, why not try it.
But i guess non of you would be for it? So let give it to the greedy CEO's and they can take their Four Hundred Thousand dollar
mini vacations or buy a 54 million dollar lear jet. I'm with you guys but it's time to try something different. CHANGE
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: 240 is Back on February 02, 2009, 10:44:04 PM
jimijimi

you said obama's ratings had just plummeted "from 80% down now to 55%"

Where did ya get that info?
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 02, 2009, 10:45:33 PM
so you admit you just totally lied your ass off figuring nobody would notice.  Nice self owning jimi.
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: jimijimi on February 03, 2009, 05:31:04 AM
so you admit you just totally lied your ass off figuring nobody would notice.  Nice self owning jimi.

Like i said it was on a major news channel, i see someone else in this thread saying 67%

So no-one can answer my last post about bailing the people out.......are you only worried
about his ratings.
Answer my idea HUGO and lets forget about percentages, come on HUGO you would't
want a $100.000 to help you out and the country that is if you live in this country????
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 03, 2009, 05:37:35 AM
so you admit you just totally lied your ass off figuring nobody would notice.  Nice self owning jimi.

Regardless, Obama will have GWB ratings very soon the way he is going. 
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: shootfighter1 on February 03, 2009, 06:33:48 AM
I think most people are looking at congress as the bad guy right now, not Obama.  I agree, but if Obama doesn't check his own party, he will be seen as weak and his numbers will decrease some (at least with the people that understand politics).  I can't understand how many people aren't considering what 1 trillion dollars will do to our deficit and how much bullshit is in this bill.  Appauling.

Many people voted this year on emotion, which is a historical mistake.  They will see that washington is complex and they change they expected will be different than expected.  Many people voted this year that don't understand how our government works, thus will be dissapointed.  The republicans did not offer a great candidate (I respect McCain greatly but he was not the strongest IMO, neither was Palin).
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: tonymctones on February 03, 2009, 07:25:12 AM
he is spending alot of political capital on stupid and meaningless shit and if this bill passes the way it is and in 3 months shit is worse b/c it will be with this spending extravaganza he wont be able to get shit done.
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Dos Equis on February 03, 2009, 10:44:28 AM
Poll: Two out of three give Pres. Obama a thumbs-up
Posted: 11:13 AM ET

From CNN Deputy Political Director Paul Steinhauser

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Two weeks into his presidency, a new national poll suggests that nearly two thirds of Americans approve of the job Barack Obama's doing so far in the White House.

Sxity-four percent of those questioned in a new Gallup/USA Today survey say they approve of how President Obama is handling his job, with 25 percent disapproving and 11 percent unsure.

"A 64 percent rating is fairly high for a presidential approval rating, but it is nothing compared to the 84 percent rating Obama was getting in early January when he was still the president-elect," said CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.

"Previous presidents have also seen a drop in their approval ratings once they move into the White House. President-elect George W. Bush had a 65 percent approval rating before he was inaugurated, but by February of 2001 that had gone down to 57 percent. President-elect Bill Clinton got a 67 percent rating for how he handled his transition, but that number went down to 51 percent by February of 1993. Honeymoons start to fade the moment a new president puts his hand on the Bible, and Obama is no exception," adds Holland.

Sixty-three percent of those questioned in the poll say they think President Obama is moving about right in addressing the major problems facing the country today, with 22 percent indicating they think Obama's moving too fast and 10 percent saying he's not moving fast enough.

Three out of four polled say they want Congress to pass some version of President Obama's economic stimulus package. But Americans seem to be split on whether the plan should be passed with or without significant changes.

The Gallup/USA Today poll was conducted January 30-February 1, with 1,027 people questioned by telephone. The survey's sampling error is plus or minus 3 percentage points.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 03, 2009, 12:23:53 PM
Like i said it was on a major news channel, i see someone else in this thread saying 67%

So no-one can answer my last post about bailing the people out.......are you only worried
about his ratings.
Answer my idea HUGO and lets forget about percentages, come on HUGO you would't
want a $100.000 to help you out and the country that is if you live in this country????
now you want to forget about percentages when you brought it and made it a major point and can't even tell us what news channel you got it on ::)  Well if you're that bold faced of a liar, why would I waste my time?
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 03, 2009, 12:27:04 PM
Poll: Two out of three give Pres. Obama a thumbs-up
Posted: 11:13 AM ET

From CNN Deputy Political Director Paul Steinhauser

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Two weeks into his presidency, a new national poll suggests that nearly two thirds of Americans approve of the job Barack Obama's doing so far in the White House.

Sxity-four percent of those questioned in a new Gallup/USA Today survey say they approve of how President Obama is handling his job, with 25 percent disapproving and 11 percent unsure.

"A 64 percent rating is fairly high for a presidential approval rating, but it is nothing compared to the 84 percent rating Obama was getting in early January when he was still the president-elect," said CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.

"Previous presidents have also seen a drop in their approval ratings once they move into the White House. President-elect George W. Bush had a 65 percent approval rating before he was inaugurated, but by February of 2001 that had gone down to 57 percent. President-elect Bill Clinton got a 67 percent rating for how he handled his transition, but that number went down to 51 percent by February of 1993. Honeymoons start to fade the moment a new president puts his hand on the Bible, and Obama is no exception," adds Holland.

Sixty-three percent of those questioned in the poll say they think President Obama is moving about right in addressing the major problems facing the country today, with 22 percent indicating they think Obama's moving too fast and 10 percent saying he's not moving fast enough.

Three out of four polled say they want Congress to pass some version of President Obama's economic stimulus package. But Americans seem to be split on whether the plan should be passed with or without significant changes.

The Gallup/USA Today poll was conducted January 30-February 1, with 1,027 people questioned by telephone. The survey's sampling error is plus or minus 3 percentage points.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
You probably think that makes jimi's point ::)  It does not, hope that helps.
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: jimijimi on February 03, 2009, 12:43:02 PM
now you want to forget about percentages when you brought it and made it a major point and can't even tell us what news channel you got it on ::)  Well if you're that bold faced of a liar, why would I waste my time?

Think it was fox, i knew the % would get the attention so what about the other question
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 03, 2009, 12:57:20 PM
I found it, jimi managed on finding the lowest approval rating.  It's from Democracy Corps (D)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html#polls

So when I go to look at that poll, it looks to be misrepresented some, here's from that poll:

Quote
the wake of his inauguration, Obama boasts his strongest personal ratings yet, now enjoying a better than 3:1 favorable-unfavorable ratio nationally. More important, since the election Obama has seen his ratings on a number of key attributes skyrocket. Over 70 percent of voters now describe the president as honest and trustworthy, and three-quarters say he is a strong leader. While Obama’s outreach to Republicans may not have generated any Republican votes on his economic plan in the House, it is clearly cementing his reputation as a bipartisan problem solver; an astounding 80 percent of voters, including 56 percent of Republicans, say Obama is willing to work with both parties.

Obama’s standing is nearly as strong in the conservative-leaning, but Democratic-held Congressional districts that are likely to make up the 2010 battleground. In the 40-most vulnerable Democratic-held seats, a battleground George Bush carried by 13 points in 2004, Obama’s personal standing is nearly as strong as it is nationally, with 59 percent rating him favorably against just 20 percent unfavorably. And 70 percent of battleground voters say they support Obama’s policies and goals for the country, virtually the same level of support he receives nationally.

With about a third of Republicans backing Obama’s policies and goals, it is not surprising that Obama is doing as well in these Republican-leaning areas – his poll results here parallel his high national numbers.

This report is based on a national survey of 1,000 likely voters conducted January 26-29, and a survey of 1,200 likely voters in the 40 most-vulnerable Democratic-held congressional seats conducted January 14-19.
http://www.democracycorps.com/download.php?attachment=bg10011909fq1sperling.pdf

NOTE: IN THIS POLL, THE DISAPPROVAL IS ONLY 18 PERCENT.  likening approval of a president in preparation to take office vs. in office is stupid.  people were judging preparation and words, now it's time to judge action and as we can see a lot of people are holding back and watching before approving or disapproving.  With the number holding back, these are pretty high approval numbers!!!  So for jimi and others to grab that number and go ah-ha! IS SPIN!!!  They intentionally skip facts to spin the number.
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 03, 2009, 01:00:12 PM
Think it was fox, i knew the % would get the attention so what about the other question
I remember addressing your unsourced %.  Where did I address anything else you said?  That's up to me or anyone else to do, not you to demand.  I don't see the rest of what you said worthy of a response so I won't waste my time but I will put your spin in perspective on his approval rating ;)
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 03, 2009, 01:03:54 PM
Think it was fox, i knew the % would get the attention so what about the other question
Stop watching the spin zone, your posts will improve ;)
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: shootfighter1 on February 03, 2009, 01:06:18 PM
Near half the people surveyed were ok with this "stimulus" bill without changes?  Wow...most of them must not have a clue of whats going on.
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: shootfighter1 on February 03, 2009, 01:09:38 PM
Interesting info:

New polling from Rasmussen suggests that among the broader public, the ongoing argument isn’t really moving the needle much, with 42% supporting it (the stimulus bill), down a bit from from 45% last week.

However, in a bit of ominous news for proponents of the package, the swing against it among independents has been dramatic…

However, support among unaffiliated voters has fallen. A week ago, unaffiliateds were evenly divided on the plan, with 37% in favor and 36% opposed. Now, 50% of unaffiliated voters oppose the plan while only 27% favor it.

Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 03, 2009, 01:24:11 PM
Interesting info:

New polling from Rasmussen suggests that among the broader public, the ongoing argument isn’t really moving the needle much, with 42% supporting it (the stimulus bill), down a bit from from 45% last week.

However, in a bit of ominous news for proponents of the package, the swing against it among independents has been dramatic…

However, support among unaffiliated voters has fallen. A week ago, unaffiliateds were evenly divided on the plan, with 37% in favor and 36% opposed. Now, 50% of unaffiliated voters oppose the plan while only 27% favor it.


watch out for Rasmussen.  Their numbers are often a wild swing from what all the other polls put out.
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: jimijimi on February 03, 2009, 04:11:31 PM
So everyone here thinks this stimulus bill is gong to work? and if not thought  maybe we could get
some other ideas on how to fix the economy
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 03, 2009, 04:23:33 PM
So everyone here thinks this stimulus bill is gong to work? and if not thought  maybe we could get
some other ideas on how to fix the economy
For a smooth thread, next time don't spew fox spin and expect a free pass ;)
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Dos Equis on February 03, 2009, 04:27:59 PM
So everyone here thinks this stimulus bill is gong to work? and if not thought  maybe we could get
some other ideas on how to fix the economy

No, I don't think it will work.  They say you shouldn't throw good money after bad.  I'm not even sure this is good money. 
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: jimijimi on February 03, 2009, 05:08:20 PM
For a smooth thread, next time don't spew fox spin and expect a free pass ;)

Alright Hugo stop busting my balls you know the spin stops here lol.
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: jimijimi on February 03, 2009, 05:12:54 PM
No, I don't think it will work.  They say you shouldn't throw good money after bad.  I'm not even sure this is good money. 

I think if you put the money in the right places it would help but from what i see
alot of it is giong out the window and very little is going to help the economy.
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: War-Horse on February 03, 2009, 05:18:01 PM
If the money went to small business owners with a 12 month time limit to spend it on only business.....then it wouldve worked.  As it is, it all went into overseas accounts and now is a loss for the corporates
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Option D on February 03, 2009, 05:24:05 PM
Hugo Dispite or differances i think obuma is full of it or plain stupid if he thinks this spending of
1 Trillion dollars is going to help the economy. Hugo where do you think the money is coming from?
Your pocket and mine and guess what we are paying for, well Six hundred million is going for new cars
for the Federal goverment and 50 million is going to awarness of STD's only about 20% of the money
might help the economy. How about give me 600 million and i will buy everyone a car.
Hugo even some democrates are having second thoughts. Try watching both sides of this
like CNBC and FOX news. What they should really do is give the people $100.000 each and we will put it back in the economy, the people are who makes up the economy so Hugo tell me you would be against that plan??

Can we get a link to that stat for approval rating?
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Option D on February 03, 2009, 05:29:49 PM
I actually think if the repubs plan calls for priority to be placed on Mortgage, and infastructure...then i would go with the rebpubs...who are also asking for 900billion...
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Colossus_500 on February 03, 2009, 06:09:42 PM
It's steadily going down.  And the numbers of disapproval are on an incline almost at the same rate that his approval rating is going downward.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113968/Obama-Initial-Approval-Ratings-Historical-Context.aspx
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 03, 2009, 06:21:17 PM
It's steadily going down.  And the numbers of disapproval are on an incline almost at the same rate that his approval rating is going downward.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113968/Obama-Initial-Approval-Ratings-Historical-Context.aspx
uh, the chart you just posted shows the last president to have an initial approval rating as high as Obama's was Eisenhower and Kennedy!  And a disapproval of 12%, only 5 points off from Eisenhower and better than Reagan.  I'm not sure what your point was, but the perspective of the chart is very favorable to Obama.
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: jimijimi on February 03, 2009, 07:10:49 PM
To early to see, if this plan works then i'm sure his rating will go up but who is really
calling the shots? so if it dosen't work do we blame him or all the democrates who
voted for the bill. This economy is effecting most of us so i hope it works and it would be better
for my small business. I just think the goverment puts alot of money in the wrong places, like
they need to give 600 million to the federal gov. for new cars. How about wait till next year
and if all is good then maybe by the damm cars. Hey theres alot of single mothers without
cars why on't you buy them one.
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Colossus_500 on February 03, 2009, 07:16:46 PM
uh, the chart you just posted shows the last president to have an initial approval rating as high as Obama's was Eisenhower and Kennedy!  And a disapproval of 12%, only 5 points off from Eisenhower and better than Reagan.  I'm not sure what your point was, but the perspective of the chart is very favorable to Obama.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

Just pointing out that the trend is on a downward slope with respect to approval, and an upward slope for disapproval.  I'm sure this is ebb and flow as with any of the presidents before him.
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 03, 2009, 07:34:52 PM
http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

Just pointing out that the trend is on a downward slope with respect to approval, and an upward slope for disapproval.  I'm sure this is ebb and flow as with any of the presidents before him.

It does make Obama's initial approval ratings look good.  They break against the thrend.  Thanks for posting this, it's something I would have posted myself for jimi lol.
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Dos Equis on February 03, 2009, 08:30:34 PM
I think if you put the money in the right places it would help but from what i see
alot of it is giong out the window and very little is going to help the economy.

It's borrowed money.  Bad money after bad. 
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Option D on February 04, 2009, 08:21:32 AM
It's steadily going down.  And the numbers of disapproval are on an incline almost at the same rate that his approval rating is going downward.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113968/Obama-Initial-Approval-Ratings-Historical-Context.aspx

so what does that mean 500..he isnt gonna be our president now..huh...nope,  he is in. get used to it chief
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on February 04, 2009, 10:02:45 AM
Hugo Dispite or differances i think obuma is full of it or plain stupid if he thinks this spending of
1 Trillion dollars is going to help the economy. Hugo where do you think the money is coming from?
Your pocket and mine and guess what we are paying for, well Six hundred million is going for new cars
for the Federal goverment and 50 million is going to awarness of STD's only about 20% of the money
might help the economy. How about give me 600 million and i will buy everyone a car.
Hugo even some democrates are having second thoughts. Try watching both sides of this
like CNBC and FOX news. What they should really do is give the people $100.000 each and we will put it back in the economy, the people are who makes up the economy so Hugo tell me you would be against that plan??
hugo is does not reside in the united states but yet he is a citizen that does not pay taxes...... ::) be happy dont worry and spend.
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: dkf360 on February 04, 2009, 11:23:40 AM
When he was running for president it was all about the people right, so lets stop giving the CEO's and the rich
the money
and give it to the people who will put it back into the economy and pay Cr. cards, morgage payments
and funnel some back into the economy. If we are able to spend money and pay these companies who are getting the bail outs
then they would't need to be bailed out. Think about it if the people can't afford to make payments to these companies then
next year they will be asking for another bail out at our exspense. Don't the people make the economy work? their bailing out
these companies but the compaines are laying thousands off.
So i ask you would you agree on the goverment giving every U.S citizen a Hundred Thousand dollars ?
Most of us would put it back into the economy by shopping, paying bills and so on, why not try it.
But i guess non of you would be for it? So let give it to the greedy CEO's and they can take their Four Hundred Thousand dollar
mini vacations or buy a 54 million dollar lear jet. I'm with you guys but it's time to try something different. CHANGE
He's working on that as we speak.  He's limiting executive pay to 500,000 a year for those receiving government bailout.  Would a Republican administration do this?
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: shootfighter1 on February 04, 2009, 11:49:12 AM
I don't blame Obama so much for this pork laiden bill as I blame Pelosi and the house democrats that wrote it.  I posted an article about a moderate democrat admitting the Obama administration encouraged him to dissaprove the bill because it was not as clean as he wanted it.

Big mal, Many republicans want a bill that focuses on:  1. cutting the payroll tax  2. Infrastructure only spending  3. Tax credits for home and auto purchases  4. Cutting capital gains tax to encourage business growth in the US.  They also have agreed on some of the other provisions like extending unemployment benefits and temporary medicaid coverage.
This is the bill we should be passing.  Not what the house passed.
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: jimijimi on February 04, 2009, 12:02:34 PM
so what does that mean 500..he isnt gonna be our president now..huh...nope,  he is in. get used to it chief

Glad he's black and now i hope we can get down to business and all these groups of people
can realize there is equal rights in this country so go on obama lets get it done.
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Option D on February 04, 2009, 12:06:02 PM
I don't blame Obama so much for this pork laiden bill as I blame Pelosi and the house democrats that wrote it.  I posted an article about a moderate democrat admitting the Obama administration encouraged him to dissaprove the bill because it was not as clean as he wanted it.

Big mal, Many republicans want a bill that focuses on:  1. cutting the payroll tax  2. Infrastructure only spending  3. Tax credits for home and auto purchases  4. Cutting capital gains tax to encourage business growth in the US.  They also have agreed on some of the other provisions like extending unemployment benefits and temporary medicaid coverage.
This is the bill we should be passing.  Not what the house passed.

I Like that one
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: shootfighter1 on February 04, 2009, 12:12:21 PM
Put aside repub vs democrat BS.  The crap thats in this bill is an insult to the American people.  Politicians took advantage of a recession to fund all sorts of non-stimulus programs when they told us this was an economic stimulus plan.  I just don't trust politicians man...especially when shit like this happens.  This is why we at least need a balance of power in government...so they can't railroad through excessive spending like this.
Obama has so far been much more transparent than Bush, which I like.  But if he doesn't control Pelosi and the far left democrats, this country will be harmed greatly.
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Option D on February 04, 2009, 12:22:49 PM
But this is what I Think. I hate an "all one party government because bad shit can sometimes get through" But in times if crisis like this shit needs to be done and fast so im in favor. And Obama knows that but he also knows that Repub imput is important which is why he is doing it like he is. He didnt need to sit down with them before it went to the house but he did..And i hope the Senate Repubs make revisions to the bill. Look as all know, im not a party line guy. I dont defend everything my party does or anyone affiliated with my party (cough Billy, beach bum, coach and col 500). Right is right and wrong is wrong. I think a bill that isnt filled with investing in roads, bridges, schools and Housing mess and tax breaks...is not what we need. All those will immediatley get us on the right track...i think... :-\
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 04, 2009, 12:34:06 PM
But this is what I Think. I hate an "all one party government because bad shit can sometimes get through" But in times if crisis like this shit needs to be done and fast so im in favor. And Obama knows that but he also knows that Repub imput is important which is why he is doing it like he is. He didnt need to sit down with them before it went to the house but he did..And i hope the Senate Repubs make revisions to the bill. Look as all know, im not a party line guy. I dont defend everything my party does or anyone affiliated with my party (cough Billy, beach bum, coach and col 500). Right is right and wrong is wrong. I think a bill that isnt filled with investing in roads, bridges, schools and Housing mess and tax breaks...is not what we need. All those will immediatley get us on the right track...i think... :-\

The frist thing the democrats need to do is Dump Pelosi.
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Option D on February 04, 2009, 12:37:03 PM
The frist thing the democrats need to do is Dump Pelosi.
Im not gonna lie, What is her problem? What is the bad issue with pelosi
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 04, 2009, 12:41:00 PM
Im not gonna lie, What is her problem? What is the bad issue with pelosi


She is the worst Speaker of the House Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1.  "We lose 500 million jobs a month"
2.  "Birth control stimulates jobs"
3.  "I promise no pork in the stimulus bill"


And on and on and on. 
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Dos Equis on February 04, 2009, 03:21:50 PM
Put aside repub vs democrat BS.  The crap thats in this bill is an insult to the American people.  Politicians took advantage of a recession to fund all sorts of non-stimulus programs when they told us this was an economic stimulus plan.  I just don't trust politicians man...especially when shit like this happens.  This is why we at least need a balance of power in government...so they can't railroad through excessive spending like this.
Obama has so far been much more transparent than Bush, which I like.  But if he doesn't control Pelosi and the far left democrats, this country will be harmed greatly.

Word.
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: jimijimi on February 04, 2009, 05:14:30 PM
It's gettng worse and worse and more companies are laying off workers than ever
and this bill is spiting in America's face, nice two of the tax cheaters obama picked
in his cabinet resigned and so should the other two tax cheaters he picked.
Why should you and me pay for some illegal alleins health care, this is out of hand.
            The Savage Nation ............
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 04, 2009, 06:24:57 PM
MS tells it like it is. 

Businesses are laying people off like they are because they know the next 4 years are going to suck under Obama. 
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: jimijimi on February 04, 2009, 08:24:44 PM
MS tells it like it is. 

Businesses are laying people off like they are because they know the next 4 years are going to suck under Obama. 

thank god it's not 8 yrs. he will be done in 4
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Colossus_500 on February 11, 2009, 07:20:26 PM
His approval ratings are slipping...right along with the country's thoughts on this "stick-it-to-us" package.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx (http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx)
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: 240 is Back on February 11, 2009, 07:36:44 PM
His approval ratings are slipping...right along with the country's thoughts on this "stick-it-to-us" package.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx (http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx)

Wow, down to 63%, despite the country being in near-economic turmoil.

Imagine that.  A lot fo those 63% of ppl are unemployed, and they STILL approve of Obama's performance.

You kinda owned your own argument here.  Nearly 2/3 of Americans approve.  During a recession or a depression.
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Colossus_500 on February 11, 2009, 07:39:24 PM
Wow, down to 63%, despite the country being in near-economic turmoil.

Imagine that.  A lot fo those 63% of ppl are unemployed, and they STILL approve of Obama's performance.

You kinda owned your own argument here.  Nearly 2/3 of Americans approve.  During a recession or a depression.
Let's check back on this in about 6 months...
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: 240 is Back on February 11, 2009, 07:40:16 PM
Let's check back on this in about 6 months...

It's a date!   
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Colossus_500 on February 11, 2009, 07:41:59 PM
It's a date!  
Any early predictions?
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: 240 is Back on February 11, 2009, 07:57:03 PM
Any early predictions?

I predict you'll bring flowers, and they'll make me sneeze.
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 11, 2009, 08:09:02 PM
this doesn't shock me seeing how the rightwing propaganda machine can now spend full time attacking Obama instead of wasting time defending Bush.
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Colossus_500 on February 16, 2009, 05:56:31 PM
I predict you'll bring flowers, and they'll make me sneeze.
this doesn't shock me seeing how the rightwing propaganda machine can now spend full time attacking Obama instead of wasting time defending Bush.
True punks to the end!  lol  ::)
Title: Re: MY HERO
Post by: Colossus_500 on February 24, 2009, 07:43:55 PM
the trend is moving downward...

http://www.gallup.com/poll/116077/Obama-Job-Approval-Dips-Below-First-Time.aspx