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Title: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 03, 2009, 07:53:40 AM
 
Official: Performance czar withdraws candidacy 
 
Feb 3 10:41 AM US/Eastern
By MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN and LIZ SIDOTI
Associated Press Writer Comments (0)         
 
 
WASHINGTON (AP) - Nancy Killefer, who failed for a year and a half to pay employment taxes on household help, has withdrawn her candidacy to be the first chief performance officer for the federal government, the White House said Tuesday.

Killefer was the second major Obama administration nominee to withdraw and the third to have tax problems complicate their nomination after President Barack Obama announced their selection.

"Nancy Killefer has decided to withdraw her nomination, and we accepted her withdrawal," Tommy Vietor, a White House spokesman, said Tuesday. The 55-year-old executive with consulting giant McKinsey & Co., was expected to explain her reasons for pulling out later in the day.

When her selection was announced by Obama on Jan. 7, The Associated Press disclosed that in 2005 the District of Columbia government had filed a $946.69 tax lien on her home for failure to pay unemployment compensation tax on household help.

Since then, administration officials refused to answer questions about the tax error, which she resolved five months after the lien was filed. Obama's first choice for commerce secretary, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, took his name out of consideration when his confirmation appeared headed toward complications because of a grand jury investigation over how state contracts were issued to political donors.

More recently, Timothy Geithner was confirmed as Treasury secretary despite belatedly paying $34,000 in income taxes, and Tom Daschle is still waiting to see if his late payment of more than $128,000 in income taxes will harm his nomination to be health and human services secretary.

On paper, Killefer brought impressive credentials to the two jobs Obama selected her for: deputy director for management at the Office of Management and Budget, which requires Senate confirmation, and a new White House post, chief performance officer for the entire federal government, which does not require confirmation.

Killefer oversees McKinsey's management consulting for government clients. During 1997-2000 in the Clinton administration, Killefer was assistant Treasury secretary for management. As such she was the chief financial officer and chief operating officer for the Treasury and its 160,000 employees and led a modernization of its largest component, the Internal Revenue Service.

But for nearly a month, the administration had refused to answer how its choice to make government workers more efficient and more responsive had bungled her household payroll taxes.

The AP reported that on March 7, 2005, the D.C. Department of Employment Services slapped a tax lien on her home in the tony Wesley Heights neighborhood. The local government alleged that just three years after she left the high-powered Treasury post she began to fail to pay unemployment compensation tax for a household employee. And she failed to make the required quarterly payments for a year and half, whereupon a lien for $946.69 was placed on her home.

That sum included $298 in unpaid taxes, $48.69 in interest and $600 in penalties. The lien was filed March 7, 2005, but Killefer didn't get the lien extinguished for almost five months, not until July 29.

During that period, Killefer and her husband, an economics professor, had a teenage son and daughter, but she had two nannies and a personal assistant to run her life when she was on the road, she told Harvard business students back then.

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Change!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FOR THE FREAKING WORSE!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
 
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: CQ on February 03, 2009, 07:59:25 AM
I know everyone wants to jump on the bandwagon, but look at past prezs, these things are not abnormal. What is overall perturbing is knowing that it seems many elected officials don't pay taxes properly. Any why in hell would you accept the nomination if you know full well you haven't paid taxes? Thats just dumb, you know you will be found out ???

Oh well, and I am prolly jealous of not paying taxes so I get told ;D
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 03, 2009, 08:01:19 AM
I know everyone wants to jump on the bandwagon, but look at past prezs, these things are not abnormal. What is overall perturbing is knowing that it seems many elected officials don't pay taxes properly. Any why in hell would you accept the nomination if you know full well you haven't paid taxes? Thats just dumb, you know you will be found out ???

Oh well, and I am prolly jealous of not paying taxes so I get told ;D

Ha ha.  Make all the excuses you want, this clown has been president for 2 weeks and we already have more garbage than anyone ever imagined. 

 
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: headhuntersix on February 03, 2009, 08:01:33 AM
Ok...enough. Here we go  Carter part 2..bigger, badder and worser!!!!!!

Ok libs whats the problem. I thought paying taxes was patriotic. I thought we were all supposed to work together, get on the Obama "Hope" bus. Not paying taxes is really not being a team player, nor as Biden says "patriotic".  This guy is full of shit as is the Dem party. And then that babbling idiot Biden can't swear in Hilary correctly. I thought you guys said Bush was an idiot. Bush didn't nominate retard after retard that couldn't pay their taxes. How friggen hard is it as President,  to compile a list of people who are smart enought to pay their damm taxes. Once again...


Good job Barry!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: Straw Man on February 03, 2009, 08:06:02 AM
I'd be really suprised if the only reason she withdrew her name was for a tax lien < 1000

Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 03, 2009, 08:07:16 AM
Ok...enough. Here we go  Carter part 2..bigger, badder and worser!!!!!!

Ok libs whats the problem. I thought paying taxes was patriotic. I thought we were all supposed to work together, get on the Obama "Hope" bus. Not paying taxes is really not being a team player, nor as Biden says "patriotic".  This guy is full of shit as is the Dem party. And then that babbling idiot Biden can't swear in Hilary correctly. I thought you guys said Bush was an idiot. Bush didn't nominate retard after retard that couldn't pay their taxes. How friggen hard is it as President,  to compile a list of people who are smart enought to pay their damm taxes. Once again...


Good job Barry!!!!!!

I love this.  I am being proven 10000000% correct about Obama only 3 weeks in. 

You suckers who voted for this clown should feel really proud today!
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: headhuntersix on February 03, 2009, 08:09:06 AM
I'd be really suprised if the only reason she withdrew her name was for a tax lien < 1000



Maybe because she's the 3rd one in a row etc.
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on February 03, 2009, 08:10:27 AM
This is just unbelievable. Who knows what other secrets these douchbags are hiding successfully, maybe something to do with birth certificates....
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: CQ on February 03, 2009, 08:11:36 AM
Ha ha.  Make all the excuses you want, this clown has been president for 2 weeks and we already have more garbage than anyone ever imagined. 

 

Not an excuse, a fact.

And recall, I actually find the whole paying all this massive tax thing funny as hell anyway.
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 03, 2009, 08:15:52 AM
Not an excuse, a fact.

And recall, I actually find the whole paying all this massive tax thing funny as hell anyway.

This all shows how vulnerable to slick marketing, emotion, and lies, work on voters.

Obama is not change at all, he is more of the same, BUT WAY WORSE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on February 03, 2009, 08:24:20 AM
Where's Benny Blanco to defend his Messiah?
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: War-Horse on February 03, 2009, 08:24:35 AM
Obama will do as hes told.  Hes a puppet just like bush was.   The World has plans for America......and they arent good ones.
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 03, 2009, 08:28:19 AM
Obama will do as hes told.  Hes a puppet just like bush was.   The World has plans for America......and they arent good ones.

This is just the start!

Obama is going to be a one term president the rate this mess is going. 

More and more is coming out on Daschle by the way.

Obama is just a shill for the banks and corporate america anyway. 
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: shootfighter1 on February 03, 2009, 08:28:37 AM
3 people this early on is pretty bad.

The conclusion I draw from this is no one likes taxes or our tax system...so, we should uncomplicate it and keep taxes lower for all.  Funny that many democrats want higher taxes yet avoid paying them.
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: mightymouse72 on February 03, 2009, 09:26:52 AM
Where's Benny Blanco to defend his Messiah?


Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that no one is defending Barry?

6 months before the election this board was lit up with Obama worship & praise.
Now nothing. 

Has a realization come over the Obamatons?

 
 


333386- do you have a link from the article you posted.

Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: tonymctones on February 03, 2009, 09:31:57 AM

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that no one is defending Barry?

6 months before the election this board was lit up with Obama worship & praise.
Now nothing. 

Has a realization come over the Obamatons?

 
 


333386- do you have a link from the article you posted.


QFT

CQ whether you want to draw a comparison between obama and past presidents is your thing...FACT of the matter is obama ran on a platform of not being the average politician and got a lot of sappy ignorant ppl to buy into it...This is not change you can believe in.
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 03, 2009, 09:38:31 AM

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that no one is defending Barry?

6 months before the election this board was lit up with Obama worship & praise.
Now nothing. 

Has a realization come over the Obamatons?

Go to Drudge Report
 


333386- do you have a link from the article you posted.


Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 03, 2009, 09:39:15 AM
Check out the Drudge Report.
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: 240 is Back on February 03, 2009, 09:40:06 AM
she had tax issues... so he bounced her.

good move on his part.

i suppose rush and his flock will still complain.  but they'd complain if he kept her too.  Obama doesn't know her tax secrets.  they come out during the vetting process under national scrutiny.  And he bounced her.

Really, yall are shitting on him for doing what he said he'd do - bounce people.
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: 240 is Back on February 03, 2009, 09:41:07 AM
Check out the Drudge Report.

Drudge regular has "food riots dominate world" as their big headline.

During the election, when Obama was up 8 points uniformly, they ran 3 straight days of "Mccain pulls even" coverage.

Seriously, i love drudge, but they're an alarmist, right-leaning lamefactory now.
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: tonymctones on February 03, 2009, 09:41:53 AM
she had tax issues... so he bounced her.

good move on his part.

i suppose rush and his flock will still complain.  but they'd complain if he kept her too.  Obama doesn't know her tax secrets.  they come out during the vetting process under national scrutiny.  And he bounced her.

Really, yall are shitting on him for doing what he said he'd do - bounce people.
why didnt he bounce the other 2?, LOL your excuses are hillarious...Change you can believe in 240 change you can believe in.
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: tonymctones on February 03, 2009, 09:42:55 AM
Drudge regular has "food riots dominate world" as their big headline.

During the election, when Obama was up 8 points uniformly, they ran 3 straight days of "Mccain pulls even" coverage.

Seriously, i love drudge, but they're an alarmist, right-leaning lamefactory now.
LOL as opposed to the upstanding news journalist that you got the info about palin and spewed on this board and chose to believe and oh ya the national enquirer LOL hahahaha ::)
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: mightymouse72 on February 03, 2009, 09:47:01 AM
she had tax issues... so he bounced her.

good move on his part.

i suppose rush and his flock will still complain.  but they'd complain if he kept her too.  Obama doesn't know her tax secrets.  they come out during the vetting process under national scrutiny.  And he bounced her.

Really, yall are shitting on him for doing what he said he'd do - bounce people.


Did he "bounce" the other 2?
Besides, he didn't bounce her.  She withdrew.

You're a moron. 
Change the names to Bush or Palin and let's hear your defense.

Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 03, 2009, 09:51:49 AM
LOL @ the stretching and grasping of straws.
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: tonymctones on February 03, 2009, 09:52:02 AM

Did he "bounce" the other 2?
Besides, he didn't bounce her.  She withdrew.

You're a moron. 
Change the names to Bush or Palin and let's hear your defense.


hahah very true

unfortunately he wont answer now that he has been shown for the ignorant ass he is just like in every other thread he is shown up in.
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: tonymctones on February 03, 2009, 09:53:31 AM
LOL @ the stretching and grasping of straws.
so this is the change we can believe in lurker?
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: mightymouse72 on February 03, 2009, 09:54:04 AM
LOL @ the stretching and grasping of straws.


At what straws is the grasping taking place??
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: 240 is Back on February 03, 2009, 09:55:28 AM

At what straws is the grasping taking place??

sore losers attacking anything obammers does. 

they lose any credibility with ppl - because you know -whatever obama does - they're going to complain. 
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 03, 2009, 09:58:54 AM
sore losers attacking anything obammers does. 

they lose any credibility with ppl - because you know -whatever obama does - they're going to complain. 

Please, is it too much to ask:

1.  that the cabinet not be comprised of tax cheats?

2.  That we not spend a trillion on welfare payments?
 
Your boy Obama is quickly proving to be the ZERO I said he was.   
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: tonymctones on February 03, 2009, 10:00:53 AM
she had tax issues... so he bounced her.

good move on his part.

i suppose rush and his flock will still complain.  but they'd complain if he kept her too.  Obama doesn't know her tax secrets.  they come out during the vetting process under national scrutiny.  And he bounced her.

Really, yall are shitting on him for doing what he said he'd do - bounce people.
why didnt he bounce the other two 240? i mean if thats what he said he would do and all, bounce ppl?  ::)
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: mightymouse72 on February 03, 2009, 10:01:15 AM
sore losers attacking anything Busher does. 

they lose any credibility with ppl - because you know -whatever Bush does - they're going to complain. 


I re-wrote your text.
Now-what say you?
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: Straw Man on February 03, 2009, 10:16:45 AM
Daschle just backed out

This isn't looking good for Obama or his vetting team

We're probably losing qualified people left and right

Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 03, 2009, 10:30:28 AM
That says a lot doesnt it?????

We need new people in there. 

No more of thse old political hacks.

I refuse to believe that the only people qualified for these positions are old hacks and deadbeats.
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: Straw Man on February 03, 2009, 10:43:17 AM
That says a lot doesnt it?????

We need new people in there. 

No more of thse old political hacks.

I refuse to believe that the only people qualified for these positions are old hacks and deadbeats.

there is also something to be said for experience but there clearly is a feeling of entitlement and tone deafness among people at the upper echelons of politics and business and I'd love to see that come to an end

I can't believe the woman who resigned this morning did so over less than 1000 in unpaid employment taxes.   There's got to be more to it.
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: tonymctones on February 03, 2009, 10:45:32 AM
there is also something to be said for experience but there clearly is a feeling of entitlement and tone deafness among people at the upper echelons of politics and business and I'd love to see that come to an end

I can't believe the woman who resigned this morning did so over less than 1000 in unpaid employment taxes.   There's got to be more to it.
ya probably something that was there that she didnt want to be made public...seriously under 1000 dollars nobody is going to bat an eye at 125,000 dollars LOL ya your ass should be in fuking jail not given a job in the obama administration.
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: 240 is Back on February 03, 2009, 10:58:11 AM
why didnt he bounce the other two 240? i mean if thats what he said he would do and all, bounce ppl?  ::)

cause he views the negative impact of their appointment is outweighed by the benefit they'll have upon America. 

it's hypocritical.  He's playing politics.  Bounce 2 people for it, so at least he gets partial credit on the 2 that he wanted despite their issues.
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: tonymctones on February 03, 2009, 11:17:34 AM
cause he views the negative impact of their appointment is outweighed by the benefit they'll have upon America. 

it's hypocritical.  He's playing politics.  Bounce 2 people for it, so at least he gets partial credit on the 2 that he wanted despite their issues.
so what your saying is he isnt "change we can believe in" then?
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 03, 2009, 11:19:53 AM
cause he views the negative impact of their appointment is outweighed by the benefit they'll have upon America. 

it's hypocritical.  He's playing politics.  Bounce 2 people for it, so at least he gets partial credit on the 2 that he wanted despite their issues.

Obama is turning out to be even a worse fraud and liar than even I thought he would be.

You clowns attacked me mercilessly for calling him "ZERO", yet who is laughing now????

You were duped, defrauded, and distracted with nonsense like "Change" and "Hope" by this phony.

Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: 240 is Back on February 03, 2009, 11:22:36 AM
You clowns attacked me mercilessly for calling him "ZERO", yet who is laughing now????

Nine legislative days into his term, and he's about to pass a trillion dollar bill.

He's already reversed half of the Bush Constitutional changes.

We're talking about 9 days in office.  He's very effective in achieving his goals so far.

And you don't think shooting a trillion bucks into US domestic economy is change?  It's a TOn of change.  You may not agree with 400 mil for birth control or whatever, but it does create jobs.  That 400 mil is a lot of material purcahses and employees at $32k a year.
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 03, 2009, 11:24:37 AM
My god are you demented. 

This like charging $4,000,000.00 for a bottle of wine on your credit card.  Sure you might get drunk for a little while, but you are going to have to pay that bill off forever long after the buzz is worn off.

Shame on you for buying into this marxist garbage.
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: shootfighter1 on February 03, 2009, 11:27:27 AM
What about Huckabee?  Does he have any chance in the party in 2012?  I like the guy.  I like his demeanor and he is a pretty solid conservative.  They way over-played his religious past.  The guy was a minister in the 80s and has been in government ever since.  Seems like a very grounded individual, practical, knowledgeable and decent on camera.  IMO, he won the vast majority of the republican debates.

I think Huckabee, Romney, Jindal, Pawlenty and Steele are all better than Palin with regard to federal office.
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: tonymctones on February 03, 2009, 11:28:52 AM
Nine legislative days into his term, and he's about to pass a trillion dollar bill.

He's already reversed half of the Bush Constitutional changes.

We're talking about 9 days in office.  He's very effective in achieving his goals so far.

And you don't think shooting a trillion bucks into US domestic economy is change?  It's a TOn of change.  You may not agree with 400 mil for birth control or whatever, but it does create jobs.  That 400 mil is a lot of material purcahses and employees at $32k a year.
LOL he has made a lot of noise, promised to close gitmo with no fuking clue of what to do with its prisoners, getting ready to spend a trillion dollars on shit that doesnt NEED TO BE IN A STIMULUS BILL, if they feel thats something they want then fine get it passed in another bill dont throw it in this one b/c you know it will get rushed through.  ::) Fuking giving money to clown colleges will help save and create jobs as well that doesnt mean its the right fuking thing to do...you honestly think that spending 400 mil on birth control projects is one of the better ways to spend this money at this time? HONESTLY this bill should be lean and mean and only include those things that will directly help the economy that are the BEST IDEAS to get the economy going NOW...NOT stupid ass pet projects that shit can wait till later.
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: tonymctones on February 03, 2009, 11:30:45 AM
What about Huckabee?  Does he have any chance in the party in 2012?  I like the guy.  I like his demeanor and he is a pretty solid conservative.  They way over-played his religious past.  The guy was a minister in the 80s and has been in government ever since.  Seems like a very grounded individual, practical, knowledgeable and decent on camera.  IMO, he won the vast majority of the republican debates.

I think Huckabee, Romney, Jindal, Pawlenty and Steele are all better than Palin with regard to federal office.
ya i quickly became a huckabee fan, very grounded like you said.
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: 240 is Back on February 03, 2009, 11:32:04 AM
LOL he has made a lot of noise, promised to close gitmo with no fuking clue of what to do with its prisoners, getting ready to spend a trillion dollars on shit that doesnt NEED TO BE IN A STIMULUS BILL, if they feel thats something they want then fine get it passed in another bill dont throw it in this one b/c you know it will get rushed through.  ::) Fuking giving money to clown colleges will help save and create jobs as well that doesnt mean its the right fuking thing to do...you honestly think that spending 400 mil on birth control projects is one of the better ways to spend this money at this time? HONESTLY this bill should be lean and mean and only include those things that will directly help the economy that are the BEST IDEAS to get the economy going NOW...NOT stupid ass pet projects that shit can wait till later.

you're critizing his ideas.  That's cool, but it's a diff debate.

The fact is, he came in with a clear set of goals and plans.  And he's implemented MAJOR changes in 9 days. 

Nine days in, Bush and Clinton sure didn't get much done.
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: tonymctones on February 03, 2009, 11:35:06 AM
you're critizing his ideas.  That's cool, but it's a diff debate.

The fact is, he came in with a clear set of goals and plans.  And he's implemented MAJOR changes in 9 days. 

Nine days in, Bush and Clinton sure didn't get much done.
LOL what has he done of consequence bro fuking nothing again he has made alot of noise...you agree with me then that the bill if full of bloated left wing spending plans that have not place in this STIMULUS BILL?
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: loco on February 03, 2009, 11:39:38 AM
In June, Obama said:

"I know that in every campaign, politicians make promises about cleaning up Washington. And most times, you end up disappointed when it doesn't happen.

"So it's easy to become cynical -- to believe that change isn't possible; that the odds are too great; that this year is bound to be no different from the last. But I also know what I've seen and what I've done. I know that for me, reform isn't just the rhetoric of a campaign; it's been the cause of my career."

The appointments of the past few weeks threaten Obama's image as an agent of change. He needs to do more now to demonstrate his commitment to tightening the ethical standards of those who surround him and making sure these are the last stories we hear of members of the administration who have done wrong.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/03/zelizer.obama.carter/index.html
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 03, 2009, 11:45:32 AM
The last stories??????????????

These are just the first stories.  It will get far worse. 
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: Butterbean on February 03, 2009, 11:51:49 AM


Ok libs whats the problem. I thought paying taxes was patriotic.


And voluntary  ???

I know you guys have probably seen this a long time ago but someone just sent this to me.

Is there a thread on this vid here anywhere?  If so can someone please link me (I searched but couldn't find one)?

Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: 240 is Back on February 03, 2009, 12:04:54 PM
of course it's bloated welfare spending.

I didnt know anyone was even debating that anymore?
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: tonymctones on February 03, 2009, 12:08:23 PM
In June, Obama said:

"I know that in every campaign, politicians make promises about cleaning up Washington. And most times, you end up disappointed when it doesn't happen.

"So it's easy to become cynical -- to believe that change isn't possible; that the odds are too great; that this year is bound to be no different from the last. But I also know what I've seen and what I've done. I know that for me, reform isn't just the rhetoric of a campaign; it's been the cause of my career."

The appointments of the past few weeks threaten Obama's image as an agent of change. He needs to do more now to demonstrate his commitment to tightening the ethical standards of those who surround him and making sure these are the last stories we hear of members of the administration who have done wrong.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/03/zelizer.obama.carter/index.html
I hate to harp on actions prior to the election other then promises made during campaigning but are we really surprised look at the ppl he surrounded himself with before he started campaigning. To all those who bought into the "change you can believe in" crap all i can say is hopefully next time you'll open your eyes and take a objective look.

Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: tonymctones on February 03, 2009, 12:10:32 PM
of course it's bloated welfare spending.

I didnt know anyone was even debating that anymore?
you seem to be defending this plan to give money to birth control in this bill? also his spending of a trillion dollars of as you just agreed it was bloated welfare spending...but your ok with that?
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: Option D on February 03, 2009, 12:10:37 PM
 
Official: Performance czar withdraws candidacy 
 
Feb 3 10:41 AM US/Eastern
By MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN and LIZ SIDOTI
Associated Press Writer Comments (0)         
 
 
WASHINGTON (AP) - Nancy Killefer, who failed for a year and a half to pay employment taxes on household help, has withdrawn her candidacy to be the first chief performance officer for the federal government, the White House said Tuesday.

Killefer was the second major Obama administration nominee to withdraw and the third to have tax problems complicate their nomination after President Barack Obama announced their selection.

"Nancy Killefer has decided to withdraw her nomination, and we accepted her withdrawal," Tommy Vietor, a White House spokesman, said Tuesday. The 55-year-old executive with consulting giant McKinsey & Co., was expected to explain her reasons for pulling out later in the day.

When her selection was announced by Obama on Jan. 7, The Associated Press disclosed that in 2005 the District of Columbia government had filed a $946.69 tax lien on her home for failure to pay unemployment compensation tax on household help.

Since then, administration officials refused to answer questions about the tax error, which she resolved five months after the lien was filed. Obama's first choice for commerce secretary, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, took his name out of consideration when his confirmation appeared headed toward complications because of a grand jury investigation over how state contracts were issued to political donors.

More recently, Timothy Geithner was confirmed as Treasury secretary despite belatedly paying $34,000 in income taxes, and Tom Daschle is still waiting to see if his late payment of more than $128,000 in income taxes will harm his nomination to be health and human services secretary.

On paper, Killefer brought impressive credentials to the two jobs Obama selected her for: deputy director for management at the Office of Management and Budget, which requires Senate confirmation, and a new White House post, chief performance officer for the entire federal government, which does not require confirmation.

Killefer oversees McKinsey's management consulting for government clients. During 1997-2000 in the Clinton administration, Killefer was assistant Treasury secretary for management. As such she was the chief financial officer and chief operating officer for the Treasury and its 160,000 employees and led a modernization of its largest component, the Internal Revenue Service.

But for nearly a month, the administration had refused to answer how its choice to make government workers more efficient and more responsive had bungled her household payroll taxes.

The AP reported that on March 7, 2005, the D.C. Department of Employment Services slapped a tax lien on her home in the tony Wesley Heights neighborhood. The local government alleged that just three years after she left the high-powered Treasury post she began to fail to pay unemployment compensation tax for a household employee. And she failed to make the required quarterly payments for a year and half, whereupon a lien for $946.69 was placed on her home.

That sum included $298 in unpaid taxes, $48.69 in interest and $600 in penalties. The lien was filed March 7, 2005, but Killefer didn't get the lien extinguished for almost five months, not until July 29.

During that period, Killefer and her husband, an economics professor, had a teenage son and daughter, but she had two nannies and a personal assistant to run her life when she was on the road, she told Harvard business students back then.

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Change!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FOR THE FREAKING WORSE!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
 

AFTER BUSH...NA DONT THINK SO
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: tonymctones on February 03, 2009, 12:11:13 PM

And voluntary  ???

I know you guys have probably seen this a long time ago but someone just sent this to me.

Is there a thread on this vid here anywhere?  If so can someone please link me (I searched but couldn't find one)?


WOW hadnt seen this yet :o hahah this reminds me of some arguements i have with ppl on this very board.
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: Straw Man on February 03, 2009, 12:12:57 PM
Obama is turning out to be even a worse fraud and liar than even I thought he would be.

You clowns attacked me mercilessly for calling him "ZERO", yet who is laughing now????

You were duped, defrauded, and distracted with nonsense like "Change" and "Hope" by this phony.


You might want to hold off congratulating yourelf just yet

a few of failed nominees (3 by my count) don't mean shit, especially ones that withdraw rather than failing to get approval or being shown to be completely unqualified - examples would be Harriet Meirs and Gonzo the Clown
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: tonymctones on February 03, 2009, 12:17:41 PM
You might want to hold off congratulating yourelf just yet

a couple of failed nominees (3 by my count) don't mean shit, especially ones that withdraw rather than getting failing to get approval or being shown to be completely unqualified - examples would be Harriet Meirs and Gonzo the Clown
when was the last time somebody wasnt approved? like 30 yrs ago right? did bush run on a platform of political ethical reform and accountability? of not being the average politician?

In June, Obama said:

"I know that in every campaign, politicians make promises about cleaning up Washington. And most times, you end up disappointed when it doesn't happen.

"So it's easy to become cynical -- to believe that change isn't possible; that the odds are too great; that this year is bound to be no different from the last. But I also know what I've seen and what I've done. I know that for me, reform isn't just the rhetoric of a campaign; it's been the cause of my career."


The appointments of the past few weeks threaten Obama's image as an agent of change. He needs to do more now to demonstrate his commitment to tightening the ethical standards of those who surround him and making sure these are the last stories we hear of members of the administration who have done wrong.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/03/zelizer.obama.carter/index.html
does he seem to be living up to the standard that he set forth?
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: Straw Man on February 03, 2009, 12:43:10 PM
when was the last time somebody wasnt approved? like 30 yrs ago right? did bush run on a platform of political ethical reform and accountability? of not being the average politician?
does he seem to be living up to the standard that he set forth?

I believe he did run on ethical reform as well as no nation building and being uniter not a divider.

Obama is doing OK so far in living up to his campaign promises.  Not 100% but high 90's for sure
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: tonymctones on February 03, 2009, 12:48:20 PM
I believe he did run on ethical reform as well as no nation building and being uniter not a divider.

Obama is doing OK so far in living up to his campaign promises.  Not 100% but high 90's for sure
hmmm iono about that id give him a solid D so far...no lobbyists appoints a lobbyist...many appointees with tax issues or other issues  ??? so gitmo, no waterboarding so far again solid D
Title: Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer
Post by: War-Horse on February 03, 2009, 05:03:14 PM
LOL.    Its only been 2 weeks for gawds sake...there will be some thorns in the roses....