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Ronnies glutes are amazing :o
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First time I've seen you praise Ronnie over Nasser. Everything OK, BB? ;D
Ronnies glutes are amazing :o
Your buns aren't exactly shabby themselves, stud
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Ronnie looks amazing
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although nasser was the farest to the camera!!..
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although nasser was the farest to the camera!!..
And still the widest lat spread, most ripped hams, and biggest calves
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What is there to discuss... Ronnie Won the show hands down...
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Your buns aren't exactly shabby themselves, stud
I wouldn't mind buttering those fluffy love buns of yours big guy ;)
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I wouldn't mind buttering those fluffy love buns of yours big guy ;)
LMAO!
Seriously though, come any closer and I'll gouge your eyes out, you sick f*ck!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Ronnies glutes are amazing :o
Go to MD.Com for all the latest Glute shots
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And still the widest lat spread, most ripped hams, and biggest calves
sure nasser's hams and calves were the best here.. both ronnie and flex had poor calves while nasser had one of the best ever..
but actually among the 3 ronnie took this pose coz of his massive and detailed back.. his back was smaller than nasser's in 1998 but was still massive and beat nasser's in details.. nasser was really better than flex here.. flex's lats were narrow and lacked thickness.. in some shows shawn rays back was more detailed than dorian's but still dorian's was better.. same with nasser and flex in this pose at this certain contest..
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sure nasser's hams and calves were the best here.. both ronnie and flex had poor calves while nasser had one of the best ever..
but actually among the 3 ronnie took this pose coz of his massive and detailed back.. his back was smaller than nasser's in 1998 but was still massive and beat nasser's in details.. nasser was really better than flex here.. flex's lats were narrow and lacked thickness.. in some shows shawn rays back was more detailed than dorian's but still dorian's was better.. same with nasser and flex in this pose at this certain contest..
The only pose in 98 that Ronnie had decisively over Nasser was the rear double biceps pose, otherwise in this pose - the rear lat spread - Nasser is beating him because his lats are wider, and hams and calves are better too. The ironic thing is Nasser's back was supposed to be his weak point, yet he's still beating the other top 2 in a back shot!
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The only pose in 98 that Ronnie had decisively over Nasser was the rear double biceps pose, otherwise in this pose - the rear lat spread - Nasser is beating him because his lats are wider, and hams and calves are better too. The ironic thing is Nasser's back was supposed to be his weak point, yet he's still beating the other top 2 in a back shot!
Ronnie smoked Nasser off the stage. PERIOD. END OF DISCUSSION. Get over your man crush, bigbobs.
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The only pose in 98 that Ronnie had decisively over Nasser was the rear double biceps pose, otherwise in this pose - the rear lat spread - Nasser is beating him because his lats are wider, and hams and calves are better too. The ironic thing is Nasser's back was supposed to be his weak point, yet he's still beating the other top 2 in a back shot!
nasser's back was for sure his weakest part (only coz the lack of details) but still it was better than most of the weak parts of the other top pros.. paul dillet had a much worse back than nasser but no one was talking about his back like nasser's.. this was because nasser's back was his only weak part while paul had more than one weak part.. the degree of weakness of the calves of ronnie, flex, or, levrone was more than the weakness of nasser's back.. dorian's totally torn arm and his relatively small shoulders were worse than nasser's back..
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nasser's back was for sure his weakest part (only coz the lack of details) but still it was better than most of the weak parts of the other top pros.. paul dillet had a much worse back than nasser but no one was talking about his back like nasser's.. this was because nasser's back was his only weak part while paul had more than one weak part.. the degree of weakness of the calves of ronnie, flex, or, levrone was more than the weakness of nasser's back.. dorian's totally torn arm and his relatively small shoulders were worse than nasser's back..
Paul also possessed bodyparts and shots that Nasser would never come close to. Paul, though incomplete, was a total freak.
Get over this Nasser bullshit, fellas. He was good. He was very good, but nowhere close to the greatest bodybuilder of the 90s. If we could run a poll, Nasser would get SMOKED by several other pros.
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Paul also possessed bodyparts and shots that Nasser would never come close to. Paul, though incomplete, was a total freak.
Get over this Nasser bullshit, fellas. He was good. He was very good, but nowhere close to the greatest bodybuilder of the 90s. If we could run a poll, Nasser would get SMOKED by several other pros.
plz post ONLY ONE PIC SHOWING ANY POSE where paul was better than nasser..
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Paul also possessed bodyparts and shots that Nasser would never come close to. Paul, though incomplete, was a total freak.
And which bodyparts are those? ::)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=179021.0;attach=208413;image)
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Relentless - honest question though, who has the widest lat spread in the photo. That's what this thread is about.
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wow. nasser owns dillet in every bodypart. Dillet is big, but he has terrible shape.
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wow. nasser owns dillet in every bodypart. Dillet is big, but he has terrible shape.
Exactly. Everyone talks about how awesome Dillet looks and give his lone shots as examples, but when you put him next to Huge Nasser it's a different story :) Dillet was great, but he's no Nasser.
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Ronnie.
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Exactly. Everyone talks about how awesome Dillet looks and give his lone shots as examples, but when you put him next to Huge Nasser it's a different story :) Dillet was great, but he's no Nasser.
actually dillet's arms and shoulders were too big 4 his frame.. also they were big but not with a very good shape.. look at his shoulders in the rear d. biceps and his biceps in the front d. biceps 2 knw what i mean..
in my opinion his best part was his lower body.. he had decent quads/hams (still not close to nasser's) and very good calves.. he was one of the very rare black men with really good calves..
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plz post ONLY ONE PIC SHOWING ANY POSE where paul was better than nasser..
still cant find any? :).. here u have some more..
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i got nasser betaing paul in both those shots
gotta admit tho bigbos, looks like nasser is edging out ronnie in that photo.
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His genetics are clearly no match to superior negroid genetics.....next ::)
Nasser "use to be somebody"
You're pathetic
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hey bigbobs--not flaming here--but dont you think your obsession with Nasser goes wayyyy beyond creepy?
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The judging decision of 3rd for Nasser in 98 was not a very popular one, at least by the crowd. Very loud boo.
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The judging decision of 3rd for Nasser in 98 was not a very popular one, at least by the crowd. Very loud boo.
same with 1996 and 1997.. the crowd always thought he should place better!!.. in 1998 i belive the popular choice went to ronnie but they booed nasser's 3rd coz he was clearly better than flex..
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I didn't hear any boos in 96 and 97. Dorian always got the loudest ovation. I think they took down the GMV lineup video from 96 on youtube.
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I didn't hear any boos in 96 and 97. Dorian always got the loudest ovation. I think they took down the GMV lineup video from 96 on youtube.
the only olympia from the 90s i didnt watch till now is 96.. but flex mag. mentioned in its article about the show that each one of the first 6 places received its share of "boos" including dorian's 1st place..
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No doubt there were some boos - everyone can't all be happy. But I never heard one as distinct as when nasser was called out 3rd in 98. Nasser won the contest from the front and was the most complete, but Coleman had a much better back and was much more conditioned.
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No doubt there were some boos - everyone can't all be happy. But I never heard one as distinct as when nasser was called out 3rd in 98. Nasser won the contest from the front and was the most complete, but Coleman had a much better back and was much more conditioned.
so in ur own opinion who should have won? big ron. or huge nasser??
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hey bigbobs--not flaming here--but dont you think your obsession with Nasser goes wayyyy beyond creepy?
Nahhh, this is just a thread about the 98 Olympia, not about Nasser :)
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so in ur own opinion who should have won? big ron. or huge nasser??
Ronnie. He was at his all-time best there, and you cannot be Mr. Olympia if you aren't the best conditioning. Combo of size and condition is a must. Nasser was 2nd and Flex was a distant 3rd.
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Ronnie. He was at his all-time best there, and you cannot be Mr. Olympia if you aren't the best conditioning. Combo of size and condition is a must. Nasser was 2nd and Flex was a distant 3rd.
do u mean that dorian's condition was the best in 1997?
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I believe Dorian was the best conditioned man in every Olympia he competed in. This reflects his victories. We've seen several times now (namely Ronnie in 06 and Jay in 08) that just being the reigning Mr. Olympia means nothing if you come in out of shape. That's pretty much the way I see it.
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We've seen several times now (namely Ronnie in 06 and Jay in 08) that just being the reigning Mr. Olympia means nothing if you come in out of shape.
You don't think Jay had an unfair advantage as the reigning Mr. O in 2007 or Ronnie in 2001?
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I believe Dorian was the best conditioned man in every Olympia he competed in. This reflects his victories. We've seen several times now (namely Ronnie in 06 and Jay in 08) that just being the reigning Mr. Olympia means nothing if you come in out of shape. That's pretty much the way I see it.
yes may be :)
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I think the best competitor wins the contest. That has always been my stance. The only contest I ever questioned was 2001, but looking back at pictures and videos, Ronnie was so much thicker and in very similar condition to Jay, I see how he won. I've read all the theories about "politics" and "racism" influencing who wins Mr. Olympia and neither made any sense. Pumpster argues that Joe Weider wants an "articulate" Mr. Olympia, yet Ronnie and Dexter (who made a complete fool of himself at the 2008 Arnold Classic winner's speech) don't fit that mold in the slightest. Regarding Nasser, America gave Nasser great opportunity and he took advantage of it to the fullest through hard work and dedication. So no, I don't buy into racism playing any role in contest outcomes. Overall I find racism to be more of an excuse than anything (not saying this is always true).
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yes may be :)
Nasser looks great there. After watching the posedown video on youtube however, I am confident that the best man won.
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yes may be :)
haha, England_1 is not one to be convinced. However, other than the strict opinion regarding Yates, he is still one of the more objective posters around here.
I think the best competitor wins the contest. That has always been my stance.
So you believe the first place is always fair, yet second/third/etc placings may not be? You did acknowledge earlier than 2nd/3rd place in 98 were swapped.
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Nasser looks great there. After watching the posedown video on youtube however, I am confident that the best man won.
i have watched the whole contest few days ago for the 1st time.. in the pre-judging yates looked very bad.. worse than i was expecting.. even his back was far away from its normal.. he looked exhausted and weak!!.. even his fans didnt go crazy with his back shots..
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So you believe the first place is always fair, yet second/third/etc placings may not be? You did acknowledge earlier than 2nd/3rd place in 98 were swapped.
I believe that history has shown first place to be fair. Mr. Olympia has always represented the best combo of size and condition. 1997 is obviously a hotly debated contest, but as I said, watching the posedown video nobody looks bigger and more conditioned than Dorian in my opinion. In 1998, I think we can all agree that Ronnie pushed conditioning to the limit. I do believe the judges focus the majority of their attention on who wins rather than sorting out every single competitor, because let's be honest here, sorting out that many competitors that all are very similar is a toss up. But, who wins is usually carefully decided after several callouts. Considering that Mr. Olympia represents the best combo of size and condition, there's really no explanation as to how Flex was placed higher than Nasser; but what we do know is that Flex also defeated Nasser at the Arnold Classics, so there is obviously something there I'm not aware of (maybe others can elaborate).
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In this particular shot (front double biceps) nobody can complete with Nasser. It really can't get better than this. I give Nasser the front double biceps over Yates, but most other shots I see going to Dorian.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=263918.0;attach=304293;image)
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nasser deserved it in 97...
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Nasser is flawless in that above pic.
Dorian beat Nasser in only one pose.....yet still won the sandow... :-\
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Nasser is flawless in that above pic.
Dorian beat Nasser in only one pose.....yet still won the sandow... :-\
Nasser got what he deserved and in spite of his bad arm, Doz won fair and square. Get over it ;D
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Dorian is a man with large lats.....no doubt about it.
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Dorian is a man with large lats.....no doubt about it.
Yes, Dorian = 6 times (at least) crowned Mr Olympia 8)
Dorian = greatest Mr Olympia of all times.
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Yes, Dorian = 6 times (at least) crowned Mr Olympia 8)
at least 6.....maybe even 7.....yes, i think 7.
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at least 6.....maybe even 7.....yes, i think 7.
Nope. That would be Arnold. Dorian won from 1992 - 1997.
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In this particular shot (front double biceps) nobody can complete with Nasser. It really can't get better than this. I give Nasser the front double biceps over Yates, but most other shots I see going to Dorian.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=263918.0;attach=304293;image)
and wht abt the front lat spread? it was always one of yates's trademarks.. he was better than nasser in it in 95 and may be 96 only coz nasser was hitting it with a bad form (bending his torso forward 2 show his abs) but by 1997 nasser learnt how 2 hit it in a good way and took it from yates hands down.. especially by 1997 dorian's arms killed any front pose.. firstly it's crystal clear the lower body goes 2 nasser coz of his bigger and sharper quads.. also nasser's arms and chest r bigger and harder.. both guy had equally developed lats..
so how u c yates better than nasser in this pose??..
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Nope. That would be Arnold. Dorian won from 1992 - 1997.
Arnold was a man with muscles.
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at least 6.....maybe even 7.....yes, i think 7.
just watched mr. o. 91 for the 1st time and lee haney took it in a dominant way.. yates was much better than the others (taylor, labrada..etc) but still didnt come close 2 lee haney.. in the rear lat spread pose, lee's lats made dorian's look tiny!!..
dorian deserved 2 win in 92, 93, &, 95.. in 93 and 95 he took the title hands down.. i am not sure about 94 but if some one else deserved 2 win i would say kevin and not shawn.. 96 he deserved 2 come 2nd 2 nasser.. 97 he deserved 2 come 3rd or 4th..
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hahah i cant believe u guys are even trying to compare nasser to ronnie... nasser was and always will be a pile of shit. he never deserved to win the O especially this year...
he looks incomplete compared to ronnie.. and toooooooooo much oil.
come on nasser give it up stop trolling the boards and just forget about it all
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I believe that history has shown first place to be fair. Mr. Olympia has always represented the best combo of size and condition. 1997 is obviously a hotly debated contest, but as I said, watching the posedown video nobody looks bigger and more conditioned than Dorian in my opinion. In 1998, I think we can all agree that Ronnie pushed conditioning to the limit. I do believe the judges focus the majority of their attention on who wins rather than sorting out every single competitor, because let's be honest here, sorting out that many competitors that all are very similar is a toss up. But, who wins is usually carefully decided after several callouts. Considering that Mr. Olympia represents the best combo of size and condition, there's really no explanation as to how Flex was placed higher than Nasser; but what we do know is that Flex also defeated Nasser at the Arnold Classics, so there is obviously something there I'm not aware of (maybe others can elaborate).
1996 had some serious booing for Nasser coming 3rd. So loud and long they put the Olympia 'winners' music over it half way through.
2001 was Ronnie's easily. Watching the pre-judging video Ronnie is so much bigger and denser throughout the whole body than Jay. His gut was bloated from forcing him to drink some water before hand (so he says ???) but other than that it's not even close.
By the way i've seen a few of Dorian in the Grand Prix shows of 1996. Close up video. When he turns to the back the show is over. You have to see it to believe it. I don't care how far ahead Nasser or even Dillet would be from the front, from the back it's so far apart it's nuts.
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Nasser has the widest, Flex by far the thickest back. Who's that dude in the middle without the calves?? ???
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=263918.0;attach=304288;image)
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Nasser has the widest, Flex by far the thickest back. Who's that dude in the middle without the calves?? ???
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=263918.0;attach=304288;image)
8x Mr Olympia Ronnie Coleman.
He won 8 Sandows.
8!
Only he and Lee Haney have won 8!
8 Mr Olympia titles.....no doubt about it.
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Nasser making a mockery of the fools who say he has a weak back in his peak years.
personally I think that 98 was almost as much of a calamity as the 1997 fraud perpetuated on Nasser. However, after the Dorian years there was simply no way they would allow another non-American to win , no way.
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Who's that big fucker on the left? Levrone?
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And still the widest lat spread, most ripped hams, and biggest calves
Least amount of detail in that back, probably from all the synthol shots that eventually turned his back to crap.
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N-O
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Who's that big fucker on the left? Levrone?
yup
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Levrone=wide and thick, Nasser=lump of shit.
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And still the widest lat spread, most ripped hams, and biggest calves
Damn! All that ,and still lost? The judges must have thought someone was better! You see Bobs..The Mods need to get on their jobs ,and delete this trash! Ever since you've been here ,these boards have been spammed with fairy dust....You suck,and your posts suck!
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Big Worm,
The judges were pawns in a crooked fix that meant that no matter what Nasser brought to the table an American had to win the Olypmia after Dorian retire.
Also, are you really still "TEAM DREADLORD" even after he was humiliated and shown to be a sad and pathetic individual operating multiple accoounts under which he talked to himself and quoted himself , agreeing with himself and supporting himself . He run away in shame.
That is your hero? hahahaaahahha
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Big Worm,
The judges were pawns in a crooked fix that meant that no matter what Nasser brought to the table an American had to win the Olypmia after Dorian retire.
Also, are you really still "TEAM DREADLORD" even after he was humiliated and shown to be a sad and pathetic individual operating multiple accoounts under which he talked to himself and quoted himself , agreeing with himself and supporting himself . He run away in shame.
That is your hero? hahahaaahahha
stfu bitch.
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Big Worm,
The judges were pawns in a crooked fix that meant that no matter what Nasser brought to the table an American had to win the Olypmia after Dorian retire.
Also, are you really still "TEAM DREADLORD" even after he was humiliated and shown to be a sad and pathetic individual operating multiple accoounts under which he talked to himself and quoted himself , agreeing with himself and supporting himself . He run away in shame.
That is your hero? hahahaaahahha
It's everyone! When Jay looked better than Ronnie,and lost....did he go off and scream racist ? No ! He worked his ass off and it paid off! I must admit ... If my friend Dread, is a pathetic human ...You are a much more pathetic individual...Posting the same exact trash over and over..Posting homosexual pics ...Being a self hating homosexual..Idolizing a woman beater,adulterer,a shit talking drug addict..HAHAHA! I don't have idols ..I try to be the best husband,father I can be ...I don't give a shit about anyone but my family...If you respect me...I'll respect you ...But I look only to myself ...and try not to make the same mistakes ..
Thank you..Wormy
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I must admit ... If my friend Dread, is a pathetic human ...You are a much more pathetic individual..
So you are still TEAM DREALORD even though he was shown to be very sad and agreeeing with himself constantly and telling himself he was wonderful and having long conversations with his very own self and he now hides in shame and humiliation, destroyed by his own pathetic obsession with Nasser and the TEAM.
An obsession that you seem to share my friend.
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So you are still TEAM DREALORD even though he was shown to be very sad and agreeeing with himself constantly and telling himself he was wonderful and having long conversations with his very own self and he now hides in shame and humiliation, destroyed by his own pathetic obsession with Nasser and the TEAM.
An obsession that you seem to share my friend.
Sharmin...SOmething you fail to understand,and accept is that ,I don't agree with you all of the time...Was Nassoil a good bodybuilder ?..Yes.... Was he a great bodybuilder? In my opinion...No! DO I like him as a person? No! My problem is with you guys always twisting the truth around ,and making this man out to be a saint.. He is far from that...He's a woman beater,drug addict ..and above all ..A LIAR! ..
Now on to the Dread issue .. I IDOLIZE NO ONE! If that's what he's done(multiple accounts) that's his problem,...not mine .. What ? now I should hate him? He hasn't done anything to me (like yourself). Nassoil lies! Should you hate him? Everything that he says make people pathetic,he's also guilty of doing himself...So, you should hate him correct?
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Maybe the judges saw that Nasser as the bag of oil he was. Seriously, why do you think he needed to have surgery on his shoulders and back. He went downhill because he shot oil nonstop. His biceps, delts and lats were the worst.
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Was he a great bodybuilder? In my opinion...No! DO I like him as a person? No!
Well then you are wrong. Nasser was the greatest of all time when you consider what he managed to do with such levels of mass : sculpt it into perfectly symmetrical, balanced , conditioned yet still highly aesthetic muscle like no other before or since.
As a person you don't even know the man so you should be silent on this matter to not look ignorant and listen to his friends, people like Bigbobs who actually know him.
My problem is with you guys always twisting the truth around ,and making this man out to be a saint.. He is far from that...He's a woman beater,drug addict ..and above all ..A LIAR! ..
No, you can't stand us telling the TRUTH. An inconvenient truth for you. It is YOU who resort to lies and slander about Nasser. The wife lied about any violence and the judge acknowledged this and she try to get him back but he reject her. He takes no rec drugs at all, ever. Anyone who is serious about bodybuilding will use gear. If you have a problem with that then try a knitting site ::)
Nasser did not lie, he is the first person to actually stand up and tell the truth after decades of lies and deceit.
Now on to the Dread issue .. I IDOLIZE NO ONE! If that's what he's done(multiple accounts) that's his problem,...not mine
You do IDOLIZE him. Which is ironic as you claim us TEAM members idolize Nasser too much. You carry Drealord's name like you tattoo it on your lower back or something. You backed the wrong horse my friend. He was shown to be a very, very sad, lonely and bitter man who spend all day on here talking to himself with different accounts and backing himself up. Nasser has burned himself into this guy's soul. Like all pumpkinheads he was far, far more obsessed with Nasser than any fan on the TEAM ;D
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Well then you are wrong. Nasser was the greatest of all time when you consider what he managed to do with such levels of mass : sculpt it into perfectly symmetrical, balanced , conditioned yet still highly aesthetic muscle like no other before or since.
As a person you don't even know the man so you should be silent on this matter to not look ignorant and listen to his friends, people like Bigbobs who actually know him.
No, you can't stand us telling the TRUTH. An inconvenient truth for you. It is YOU who resort to lies and slander about Nasser. The wife lied about any violence and the judge acknowledged this and she try to get him back but he reject her. He takes no rec drugs at all, ever. Anyone who is serious about bodybuilding will use gear. If you have a problem with that then try a knitting site ::)
Nasser did not lie, he is the first person to actually stand up and tell the truth after decades of lies and deceit.
You do IDOLIZE him. Which is ironic as you claim us TEAM members idolize Nasser too much. You carry Drealord's name like you tattoo it on your lower back or something. You backed the wrong horse my friend. He was shown to be a very, very sad, lonely and bitter man who spend all day on here talking to himself with different accounts and backing himself up. Nasser has burned himself into this guy's soul. Like all pumpkinheads he was far, far more obsessed with Nasser than any fan on the TEAM ;D
No! You are wrong! Where I come from ..The greatest own Sandows! Again ..You are incorrect...I idolize no one ! I don't wish to be like anyone but myself.. Nasser did lie! What lies does Nassoil expose!? You know what ? When he admits to being an adulterer,drug addict,and abusing his spouse ..Then he will expose lies and be the Wizard of Truth! Until then,he's a liar! He lies to Bob,and you,and all of his fans!
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No! You are wrong! Where I come from ..The convicted burglarsgreatest steal own Sandows!
Fixed
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Nassoil beat his wife and did drugs? Where's his Sandow? He's as much a criminal and liar as all the other Pros.
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This thread is ridiculous, period. If Nasser was sooooooooooo good then why has he never one a single Olympia or even multiple ASC titiles? Simple, because he was NOT as good as people hyped him up to be. Bottom line. Get over it.
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Gimmick after gimmick attacking each other in this thread.
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Nasser is furthest from the camera in that shot, Levrone is much closer
Gimmick after gimmick attacking each other in this thread.
Let's hear your theories - which accounts are gimmicks and who operates them? ::)
Nasser has the widest, Flex by far the thickest back. Who's that dude in the middle without the calves?? ???
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damn, looks like another olympia where nasser got screwed . his back is better than ronnies there.
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MODS....Can you PLEEEEAAAASSSEEE create a child board where the big 3 (bigknobs, saharma,Sharif saladtosser) can fellate each other whilst singing the praises of Nasser?
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Nasser is furthest from the camera in that shot, Levrone is much closer
Let's hear your theories - which accounts are gimmicks and who operates them? ::)
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ha ha ha ha he's just like Nasser in the pic you posted all the way to the left , you have your excuses ;)
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damn, looks like another olympia where nasser got screwed . his back is better than ronnies there.
Countdown to you being accused of being my gimmick, or Sharma's gimmick 3....2....1....
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ha ha ha ha he's just like Nasser in the pic you posted all the way to the left , you have your excuses ;)
You do realize there is more than one dimension right? In the pic you posted Nasser is further away vertically.
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MODS....Can you PLEEEEAAAASSSEEE create a child board where the big 3 (Groink, Big Worm, AussiePro) can fellate each other whilst obsessing over Nasser?
I agree
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You do realize there is more than one dimension right? In the pic you posted Nasser is further away vertically.
the point being pictures can be deceptive , just because you found one that favors your point of view doesn't mean it accurate , neither is the one I posted , the only way to gauge is a picture taken dead on from the back
Nasser never had a great rear latspread even at his best , stop making blanket statements because Fux is clearly wider than Nasser and his rear latspread was better in 1998
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the point being pictures can be deceptive , just because you found one that favors your point of view doesn't mean it accurate , neither is the one I posted , the only way to gauge is a picture taken dead on from the back
Nasser never had a great rear latspread even at his best , stop making blanket statements because Fux is clearly wider than Nasser and his rear latspread was better in 1998
The picture I posted is not dececeptive as it's scaled pretty accurately; they are all practically the same height from head to toe. In 98 Nasser's lat spread was wider than Ronnie's and Wheeler's (and his hams and calves were better too). That's the point of this thread, I'm sure you can admit.
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the point being pictures can be deceptive , just because you found one that favors your point of view doesn't mean it accurate , neither is the one I posted , the only way to gauge is a picture taken dead on from the back
Nasser never had a great rear latspread even at his best , stop making blanket statements because Fux is clearly wider than Nasser and his rear latspread was better in 1998
ND, there was a great FLEX pictorial featuring Nasser and Fux working out together (not the one in the video clip where Fux looks pregnant) around 98. It was in B&W and Fux was bigger than Nasser & in better shape. You know the one I'm talking about? If you do, can you scan it by any chance? There was a double page spread of both of them doing a front lat spread and Fux looked mind blowing, making Nasser look smaller (not small, though).
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The picture I posted is not dececeptive as it's scaled pretty accurately; they are all practically the same height from head to toe. In 98 Nasser's lat spread was wider than Ronnie's and Wheeler's (and his hams and calves were better too). That's the point of this thread, I'm sure you can admit.
It's accurate because you want it to be ::) again his rear latspread is neither the widest in that contest or the best just because you find one pic where it appears he's wider than Ronnie doesn't mean he is or he's better because of it , lots of things go into rear latspreads such as calves and lats , width doesn't make a better pose
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ND, there was a great FLEX pictorial featuring Nasser and Fux working out together (not the one in the video clip where Fux looks pregnant) around 98. It was in B&W and Fux was bigger than Nasser & in better shape. You know the one I'm talking about? If you do, can you scan it by any chance? There was a double page spread of both of them doing a front lat spread and Fux looked mind blowing, making Nasser look smaller (not small, though).
I know which article you're talking about I don't think I have that magazine I would have to check ! Fux was super wide and had a great back , much better than Nassers
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I know which article you're talking about I don't think I have that magazine I would have to check ! Fux was super wide and had a great back , much better than Nassers
Cool, please PM me if you do find it and scan the pics. And it wasn't just the back - the first pics were of both of them flexing their arms and again, Fux was bigger and in better shape. Back then I wanted Fux or Mike Francois to win the title after Dorian retired. I never liked Ronnie at that point, but once I saw the shape he was in, in 98 and then on, I became a fan, although more of his physique than of his personality.
Too bad Fux could never bring it all together onstage - he was the one guy who could have done what Dorian did and taken things to the next level. Even Ronnie and Mike Francois couldn't achieve his size, shape and density. I think Fux would have been more muscular and complete overall at 300 lb than Ronnie was around 2003, if he had trained correctly and brought the look onstage, which he of course, never did :-\
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Overall Ronnie.
Nasser looks bigger.
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It's accurate because you want it to be ::)
It's inaccurate because you want it to be ::)
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why do you even argue about 11 years ago?
it has past, the people who won, won because the judges saw they deserved it, nasser was a good bodybuilder
but he was no where close to Dorian Yates, Ronnie Coleman and Kevin Levrone.
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And it wasn't just the back - the first pics were of both of them flexing their arms and again, Fux was bigger and in better shape.
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Too bad Fux could never bring it all together onstage - he was the one guy who could have done what Dorian did and taken things to the next level. Even Ronnie and Mike Francois couldn't achieve his size, shape and density. I think Fux would have been more muscular and complete overall at 300 lb than Ronnie was around 2003, if he had trained correctly and brought the look onstage, which he of course, never did :-\
Fux had size, yes, but shape and density? He looked pretty smooth onstage and had by far the largest gut. It was distended in practically every pose. He was in his best shape in 97 and I remember seeing his side chest pose where it distended out very far, I don't have a copy of the pic though.
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It's inaccurate because you want it to be ::)
I admitted neither is accurate and it doesn't matter if he was the widest ( which he wasn't Fux is clearly wider ) or the best
Nasser never had great back shots , his back double biceps wasn't great , his rear latspread wasn't great and neither was his standing relaxed from the rear he dominated from the front , not from the side or the rear , why do you think most pics of him are from the front?
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Cool, please PM me if you do find it and scan the pics. And it wasn't just the back - the first pics were of both of them flexing their arms and again, Fux was bigger and in better shape. Back then I wanted Fux or Mike Francois to win the title after Dorian retired. I never liked Ronnie at that point, but once I saw the shape he was in, in 98 and then on, I became a fan, although more of his physique than of his personality.
Too bad Fux could never bring it all together onstage - he was the one guy who could have done what Dorian did and taken things to the next level. Even Ronnie and Mike Francois couldn't achieve his size, shape and density. I think Fux would have been more muscular and complete overall at 300 lb than Ronnie was around 2003, if he had trained correctly and brought the look onstage, which he of course, never did :-\
Stop beating around the bush and pretending you want a pm pic of a oiled up,g-string wearing bb and just ask out ND already :D
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Fux had size, yes, but shape and density? He looked pretty smooth onstage and had by far the largest gut. It was distended in practically every pose. He was in his best shape in 97 and I remember seeing his side chest pose where it distended out very far, I don't have a copy of the pic though.
You misunderstand, my good man - I was referring to the FLEX pictorial only. I never saw Fux look better than Nasser or Dorian onstage, because he never came in full and conditioned. In that one pictorial though, both Nasser and him were working out together and Yes, he does look bigger and better than Nasser. They were both around 300 lb, although Fux was heavier by about 15 lb or so during the time those pics were taken. You must bear in mind that he had just as big a bone structure as Nasser and was a little taller (he was 6 feet even).
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You misunderstand, my good man - I was referring to the FLEX pictorial only. I never saw Fux look better than Nasser or Dorian onstage, because he never came in full and conditioned. In that one pictorial though, both Nasser and him were working out together and Yes, he does look bigger and better than Nasser. They were both around 300 lb, although Fux was heavier by about 15 lb or so during the time those pics were taken. You must bear in mind that he had just as big a bone structure as Nasser and was a little taller (he was 6 feet even).
Depending on their offseason bodyweights at the time of the photoshoot he may have looked a bit bigger (if he was carrying more bf at the time of the photoshoot than Nasser). I used the rolley-eye emoticon because you said both bigger and in better shape :)
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Fux had size, yes, but shape and density? He looked pretty smooth onstage and had by far the largest gut. It was distended in practically every pose. He was in his best shape in 97 and I remember seeing his side chest pose where it distended out very far, I don't have a copy of the pic though.
so you compared Nasser to
The 6 time (atleast) crowned Mr. O [DY]
The 8 time (atleast) crowned Mr. O [RC]
The best bodybuilding record (atleast) in history [KL]
and now you're comparing him to JF? ::)
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so you compared Nasser to
The 6 time (atleast) crowned Mr. O [DY]
The 8 time (atleast) crowned Mr. O [RC]
The best bodybuilding record (atleast) in history [KL]
and now you're comparing him to JF? ::)
Practically everyone here uses Nasser as their yardstick to compare their favourites to, I come in and set the record straight :)
And yes, Nasser can be compared to Dorian and Ronnie. The judges believe so too, otherwise they would not have gotten call-outs together.
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Practically everyone here uses Nasser as their yardstick to compare their favourites to, I come in and set the record straight :)
And yes, Nasser can be compared to Dorian and Ronnie. The judges believe so too, otherwise they would not have gotten call-outs together.
hahaha speaking of records, you think his record comes even close to beating those 3 that I mentioned? 8)
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Practically everyone here uses Nasser as their yardstick to compare their favourites to, I come in and set the record straight :)
And yes, Nasser can be compared to Dorian and Ronnie. The judges believe so too, otherwise they would not have gotten call-outs together.
Nasser can ONLY be compared to either in front poses , he's a one dimensional bodybuilder hence why he never won the big one , looks great from the front , good from the sides , weak from the back
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1999 Grand Prix England, 6th
1999 Mr. Olympia, 6th
1999 World Pro Championships, 6th
2000 Mr. Olympia, 5th
2001 Mr. Olympia, 9th
2002 Arnold Classic, 10th
2002 Mr. Olympia, 15th
2004 Night of Champions, 15th
2004 Show of Strength Pro Championship, 14th
2005 Europa Supershow, 14th
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Nasser can ONLY be compared to either in front poses , he's a one dimensional bodybuilder hence why he never won the big one , looks great from the front , good from the sides , weak from the back
He looks unbeatable from the front and the sides, and pretty good from the back, just not as good as the very best.
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hahaha what is this?
1996 Mr. Olympia, Disqualified (failed the diuretics drug test, he was in 3rd place that evening)
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hahaha what is this?
1996 Mr. Olympia, Disqualified (failed the diuretics drug test, he was in 3rd place that evening)
???
He deserved to win that show as the pictures prove too. There were rumours that there would be a diuretics test yet it was not actually done. However, Nasser mentioned to Mike Matarazzo in passing that he took diuretics. Most if not all the competitors in 96 took them too, however Mike ratted out Nasser and he had his prize money taken away for that.
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He looks unbeatable from the front and the sides, and pretty good from the back, just not as good as the very best.
According to you ;) the judges felt otherwise , history corrects your ignorance.
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He deserved to win that show as the pictures prove too. There were rumours that there would be a diuretics test yet it was not actually done. However, Nasser mentioned to Mike Matarazzo in passing that he took diuretics. Most if not all the competitors in 96 took them too, however Mike ratted out Nasser and he had his prize money taken away for that.
drug tests at Mr. Olympia? ::)
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Stop beating around the bush and pretending you want a pm pic of a oiled up,g-string wearing bb and just ask out ND already :D
PLEASE do not interrupt my mating ritual ever again >:(
Depending on their offseason bodyweights at the time of the photoshoot he may have looked a bit bigger (if he was carrying more bf at the time of the photoshoot than Nasser). I used the rolley-eye emoticon because you said both bigger and in better shape :)
But he was, at least in my opinion, BB. And I'm not saying that to try and upset you or anything - you know I stopped giving you shit long ago. The reason why I said he's in better shape is because he actually looked pretty good in all of the mandatory poses for such a massive guy. And unlike Nasser, he looked great from the back too. Again, you probably are of the opinion that Nasser looks better overall, so this is pretty much like arguing Dorian vs Ronnie or Dorian vs Nasser - we've both got enough arguments to support our own claims.
I'll give you that Fux couldn't touch Nasser onstage though, cause he (Fux) never came in full and conditioned in those 2 - 3 years he competed in the pro circuit.
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He deserved to win that show as the pictures prove too. There were rumours that there would be a diuretics test yet it was not actually done. However, Nasser mentioned to Mike Matarazzo in passing that he took diuretics. Most if not all the competitors in 96 took them too, however Mike ratted out Nasser and he had his prize money taken away for that.
pure fantasy , 1996 was no contest you can haggle about 1997 1996 you're shit out of luck there was NO contest and ever notice all you do is type excuses?
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PLEASE do not interrupt my mating ritual ever again >:(
But he was, at least in my opinion, BB. And I'm not saying that to try and upset you or anything - you know I stopped giving you shit long ago. The reason why I said he's in better shape is because he actually looked pretty good in all of the mandatory poses for such a massive guy. And unlike Nasser, he looked great from the back too. Again, you probably are of the opinion that Nasser looks better overall, so this is pretty much like arguing Dorian vs Ronnie or Dorian vs Nasser - we've both got enough arguments to support our own claims.
I'll give you that Fux couldn't touch Nasser onstage though, cause he (Fux) never came in full and conditioned in those 2 - 3 years he competed in the pro circuit.
We'll agree to disagree. Cheers :)
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pure fantasy , 1996 was no contest you can haggle about 1997 1996 you're shit out of luck there was NO contest and ever notice all you do is type excuses?
The fans felt so too, as shown by the incredibly loud and extended "booo" when he was announced 3rd in 96.
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The fans felt so too, as shown by the incredibly loud and extended "booo" when he was announced 3rd in 96.
the fans feel what they want to feel, judges make the decisions, the fans also felt that Flex should have won 93
but Dorian dominated with his sheer mass and inhuman conditioning.
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I was at the 98 Olympia and Nasser looked like shit from the back. In pics he looks okay but in person his back looked ridiculously soft and one dimensional compared to Ronnie. When he turned around in pre-judging and hit his back poses everyone in the audience was like "nope....still not good enough"
Tell me BigKnobs have you ever seen Nasser compete?
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The fans felt so too, as shown by the incredibly loud and extended "booo" when he was announced 3rd in 96.
Again this means what? he was popular? do fans judge contests? NO it doesn't matter what the fans think ...the judges count and they made their decisions and you're left with excuses as well as Nasser
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Again this means what? he was popular? do fans judge contests? NO it doesn't matter what the fans think ...the judges count and they made their decisions and you're left with excuses as well as Nasser
That's a given - obviously judges make the decisions. Does that mean there's no room for discussing placings at all after the judges make their call? ::)
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That's a given - obviously judges make the decisions. Does that mean there's no room for discussing placings at all after the judges make their call? ::)
No there is plenty of room for discussions , but with cries of racism , politics , excuses , etc you can't expect to be taken seriously .
13 individual judges all came to the same conclusion separate of each other , this trumps your opinion in the end .
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That's a given - obviously judges make the decisions. Does that mean there's no room for discussing placings at all after the judges make their call? ::)
so have you seen Nasser compete or not?
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I was at the 98 Olympia and Nasser looked like shit from the back. In pics he looks okay but in person his back looked ridiculously soft and one dimensional compared to Ronnie.
TRANSLATION: oh shit, Nasser is beating Ronnie in that photo. I know, I'll say the photo is a lie and I was actually there and it was a different story.
Just like the Yates fans do when the photographic evidence shows that Nasser's masterpiece carved in flesh destroys the hideous, macabre creation of the Yates creature ::)
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TRANSLATION: oh shit, Nasser is beating Ronnie in that photo. I know, I'll say the photo is a lie and I was actually there and it was a different story.
Just like the Yates fans do when the photographic evidence shows that Nasser's masterpiece carved in flesh destroys the hideous, macabre creation of the Yates creature ::)
Oh please. I've gone to shows and then saw pics and it looked like a totally different show in pics. When Richards Jones won the USA's he dominated but when I saw pics of the show it looked alot closer than being there in person (which I was there). You can't judge a show from pics.
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No there is plenty of room for discussions , but with cries of racism , politics , excuses , etc you can't expect to be taken seriously .
13 individual judges all came to the same conclusion separate of each other , this trumps your opinion in the end .
Poor, naive ND - he thinks that none of the above could happen in such a credible and professional agency such as the IFBB. ::)
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Oh please. I've gone to shows and then saw pics and it looked like a totally different show in pics. When Richards Jones won the USA's he dominated but when I saw pics of the show it looked alot closer than being there in person (which I was there). You can't judge a show from pics.
hahaha, the good old, "There's just something about being there in person that makes Nasser look worse than in pictures and Yates or so-and-so better. I can't explain why or how pictures give a different story but they just do." Whatever you saw from a far distance for some minutes many years ago is not as credible as close up photographs that were preserved over the past years.
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Poor, naive ND - he thinks that none of the above could happen in such a credible and professional agency such as the IFBB. ::)
You shouldn't even speak on this matter. You must be the most biased schmoe to lurk there boards. If Nasser doesn't win it all there's always some pathetic excuses from your sorry ass.
I've NEVER heard you say "Nasser got beat fair and square, he was not the best bodybuilder on that day".
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Oh please. I've gone to shows and then saw pics and it looked like a totally different show in pics. When Richards Jones won the USA's he dominated but when I saw pics of the show it looked alot closer than being there in person (which I was there). You can't judge a show from pics.
Thats what these idiots dont understand in regards to Dorian.
In pics Dorian doesnt look the best but in the flesh he was totaly different.
When you have your fellow competitors jaws drop back stage when you first unzip from your tracks that speaks volumes..
And the judges dont judge contests looking at pics on the internet.
My mate was never a dozer fan till he saw him in the flesh , he came back to NZ and was totaly sold on Dorian.
He went away not being impressed with the Mr O and returned as his Number 1 fan.
His words were "granite rock covered with glad wrap like skin and that back looked like a ragged clif face with huge amounts of rock popping out everywhere"
He dominated everything he stood next to in the flesh hence why he was an undefeated Mr O.
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You shouldn't even speak on this matter. You must be the most biased schmoe to lurk there boards. If Nasser doesn't win it all there's always some pathetic excuses from your sorry ass.
I've NEVER heard you say "Nasser got beat fair and square, he was not the best bodybuilder on that day".
Sure, I don't think he deserved to win every single show he entered, however he did deserve 3 Olympias (at least), the 94 NOC (where he got 2nd and even MuscleTime said that was a ridiculous outcome), and the 96 and 97 Arnold Classic.
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Sure, I don't think he deserved to win every single show he entered, however he did deserve 3 Olympias (at least), the 94 NOC (where he got 2nd and even MuscleTime said that was a ridiculous outcome), and the 96 and 97 Arnold Classic.
You have got to be kidding me. Aren't you the same person who buys his soiled clothing? You are very biased and living in Fantasy Land. That statement alone proves it.
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yes bigbobs we all know that u r so far u[p nasser's ass u can taste what he just ate, but get over yuo delusionality, nasser was never good enough to win the O and has been bitching about it 2 u ever since...
He couldn't even beat dorina when dorian had severe injuries..
yes Nasser sucks more than ever
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hahahah he looks like shit.. someone tell him to stop with the oil
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hahahah he looks like shit.. someone tell him to stop with the oil
Impossible. Like telling cookie monster to avoid cookies.
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Poor, naive ND - he thinks that none of the above could happen in such a credible and professional agency such as the IFBB. ::)
NO it only happens when Nasser lost but when he won all his contests the IFBB was right on the money lol great logic , they decided race wasn't an issue at the Houston Pro in 1995 , or being a non-American was o.k as long as we were in New York when he won the NOC ::)
Nasser won 6 pro shows yet you cry politics , some cry racism , some cry conspiracy , and yet somehow they overlooked all of that on these occasions lol if contests are fixed then Nasser benefited as well you can't have it both ways .
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You shouldn't even speak on this matter. You must be the most biased schmoe to lurk there boards. If Nasser doesn't win it all there's always some pathetic excuses from your sorry ass.
I've NEVER heard you say "Nasser got beat fair and square, he was not the best bodybuilder on that day".
QFT
Team Excuses = Team Nasser
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NO it only happens when Nasser lost but when he won all his contests the IFBB was right on the money lol great logic , they decided race wasn't an issue at the Houston Pro in 1995 , or being a non-American was o.k as long as we were in New York when he won the NOC ::)
Nasser won 6 pro shows yet you cry politics , some cry racism , some cry conspiracy , and yet somehow they overlooked all of that on these occasions lol if contests are fixed then Nasser benefited as well you can't have it both ways .
In some shows Nasser was so far ahead of the competition that even with the negative politics at his disadvantage he still won, however the # of victories and overall placings during his career would have been higher in their absense.
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In some shows Nasser was so far ahead of the competition that even with the negative politics at his disadvantage he still won, however the # of victories and overall placings during his career would have been higher in their absense.
ROFL?
Excuses and even more excuses.
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NO it only happens when Nasser lost but when he won all his contests the IFBB was right on the money lol great logic , they decided race wasn't an issue at the Houston Pro in 1995 , or being a non-American was o.k as long as we were in New York when he won the NOC ::)
Nasser won 6 pro shows yet you cry politics , some cry racism , some cry conspiracy , and yet somehow they overlooked all of that on these occasions lol if contests are fixed then Nasser benefited as well you can't have it both ways .
Team Nasser: Yes, you can! :)
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In some shows Nasser was so far ahead of the competition that even with the negative politics at his disadvantage he still won, however the # of victories and overall placings during his career would have been higher in their absense.
Your retort is more excuses lol again either he won fair and lost fair you can't have it both ways , Nasser wasn't an outcast in the bodybuilding community ( not like he is now ) he was well like by fans , writers and the judges stop portraying him as a victim and look at the cold hard reality of the fact , he simply wasn't good enough , you're entitled to your own opinion but you're not entitled to you're own facts and the fact is Nasser was Mr Olympia from the front and Mr Idaho from the back
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For the pic in questioning, imo Ronnie does have the edge in terms of back development, but that being said, back was supposedly Nasser's weakpoint, and he is holding his own against Ronnie. Very Impressive.
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Nasser was freak, but for the most part, he was given his biggest gift the 1999 Arnold Classic. Typically the one that wins the Most Muscular Award (Kevin Levrone) wins the show, but Nasser did. And Nasser was NOT better than Levrone at that show. But then the embassing thing is, Nasser lost to a 224 pound Flex Wheeler at the 1997 Arnold Classic, and Flex even won the Most Muscular Award! A 224 pound Flex Wheeler was more Muscular than a 280 pound Nasser.
The reason why Bigbobs and Sh.S keep the Nasser shit going, is because they know, Nasser is not all that he's cracked up to be. He will never be known to be as great as Shawn Ray, Flex Wheeler, Ronnie Coleman, Chris Cormier, Kevin Levrone, Dorian Yates. He will be known as someone has competed against them, and at times beaten them. But at his best, he will never come close to them at their best.
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Nasser was freak, but for the most part, he was given his biggest gift the 1999 Arnold Classic. Typically the one that wins the Most Muscular Award (Kevin Levrone) wins the show, but Nasser did. And Nasser was NOT better than Levrone at that show. But then the embassing thing is, Nasser lost to a 224 pound Flex Wheeler at the 1997 Arnold Classic, and Flex even won the Most Muscular Award! A 224 pound Flex Wheeler was more Muscular than a 280 pound Nasser.
Yes, the biased judges placed the inferior Wheeler with unusual delts and arms and extremely narrow physique above a near-flawless Nasser.
The reason why Bigbobs and Sh.S keep the Nasser shit going, is because they know, Nasser is not all that he's cracked up to be. He will never be known to be as great as Shawn Ray, Flex Wheeler, Ronnie Coleman, Chris Cormier, Kevin Levrone, Dorian Yates. He will be known as someone has competed against them, and at times beaten them. But at his best, he will never come close to them at their best.
When Ray, Nasser, Cormier, and Levrone were all at their best Nasser repeatedly beat them - primarily 95 Olympia through to 99 Arnolc Classic - he rarely lost to any of these men - only to Levrone in 95 (since Nasser was still the newcomer to the top ranks) and to Ray in 96. He also beat Wheeler at the Olympia in 95, 96 and 97.
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Yes, the biased judges placed the inferior Wheeler with unusual delts and arms and extremely narrow physique above a near-flawless Nasser.
When Ray, Nasser, Cormier, and Levrone were all at their best Nasser repeatedly beat them - primarily 95 Olympia through to 99 Arnolc Classic - he rarely lost to any of these men - only to Levrone in 95 (since Nasser was still the newcomer to the top ranks) and to Ray in 96. He also beat Wheeler at the Olympia in 95, 96 and 97.
Yes, the biased judges placed the inferior Wheeler with unusual delts and arms and extremely narrow physique above a near-flawless Nasser.
default politics excuse
When Ray, Nasser, Cormier, and Levrone were all at their best Nasser repeatedly beat them - primarily 95 Olympia through to 99 Arnolc Classic - he rarely lost to any of these men - only to Levrone in 95 (since Nasser was still the newcomer to the top ranks) and to Ray in 96. He also beat Wheeler at the Olympia in 95, 96 and 97.
he didn't beat these guys it was POLITICS & BIAS ;)
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he didn't beat these guys it was POLITICS & BIAS ;)
You're on thin ground here, ND. Are you willing to document such a claim (for 1k pages!) ? ;D
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You're on thin ground here, ND. Are you willing to document such a claim (for 1k pages!) ? ;D
Why not ? lol
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BigBobs vs Hulkster vs ND
Who will win the cyber slug fest?
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BigBobs vs Hulkster vs ND
Who will win the cyber slug fest?
CJ!? We might as well go for some pints and wings and enjoy life, because this shit is like the Middle-East Crisis: it ain't gonna be decided in our lifetime with Jimmies like this in charge. :)
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BigBobs vs Hulkster vs ND
Who will win the cyber slug fest?
haha, even though I'm on the side of the better bodybuilder, they have me beat in that both have more time on their hands to post about their bodybuilder. I'm not willing to go nearly 2000 pages with anyone over the same topic while they are. I would rather spend some of that time actually hanging out with the bodybuilder or talking to him on the phone or with other friends or the girlfriend, than mindlessly writing about him for hundreds of pages which eventually only 2-3 people even read. I'm sure most can admit that posting about Nasser is more interesting and entertaining than their "Hulkster Truce" debates. If anyone contests to that, why is it then that no one else gets involved in their debates while Nasser discussions draw many interested posters :)
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1995 Grand Prix England - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Vince Taylor
2 Kevin Levrone
3 Charles Clairmonte
1995 Grand Prix France - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Vince Taylor
2 Charles Clairmonte
1995 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Kevin Levrone
2 Vince Taylor
1995 Grand Prix Russia - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Kevin Levrone
2 Vince Taylor
1995 Grand Prix Spain - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Kevin Levrone
2 Vince Taylor
1995 Grand Prix Ukraine - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Vince Taylor
1995 Olympia - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Dorian Yates
2 Kevin Levrone
1996 Grand Prix Spain - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Dorian Yates
2 Paul Dillett
1996 Olympia - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Dorian Yates
2 Shawn Ray
3 Kevin Levrone
4 Ken Wheeler (Flex)
5 Paul Dillett
6 Ronnie Coleman
7 Chris Cormier
8 Jean Pierre Fux
9 Charles Clairmonte
10 Michael Francois
11 Aaron Baker
12 Roland Cziurlock
13 Mike Matarazzo
1997 Arnold Classic - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Ken Wheeler (Flex)
1997 Grand Prix Czech Republic - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Kevin Levrone
2 Chris Cormier
1997 Grand Prix England - IFBB
1 Kevin Levrone
2 Chris Cormier
1997 Grand Prix Finland - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Kevin Levrone
2 Chris Cormier
3 Ronnie Coleman
1997 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Kevin Levrone
1997 Grand Prix Hungary - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Kevin Levrone
1997 Grand Prix Russia - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Ronnie Coleman
2 Kevin Levrone
1997 Grand Prix Spain - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Kevin Levrone
1997 San Jose Pro Invitational - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Ken Wheeler (Flex)
1998 Arnold Classic - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Ken Wheeler (Flex)
1998 Grand Prix Finland - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Ronnie Coleman
2 Kevin Levrone
1998 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Ronnie Coleman
2 Kevin Levrone
1998 Olympia - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Ronnie Coleman
2 Ken Wheeler (Flex)
he rarely lost to any of these men
Bobs your quote was he ' rarely lost to any of these men? lol these guys routinely beat Nasser show-in-show-out he was a good bodybuilder but let's not act like he was Dorian Yates and untouchable ;)
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haha, even though I'm on the side of the better bodybuilder, they have me beat in that both have more time on their hands to post about their bodybuilder. I'm not willing to go nearly 2000 pages with anyone over the same topic while they are. I would rather spend some of that time actually hanging out with the bodybuilder or talking to him on the phone or with other friends or the girlfriend, than mindlessly writing about him for hundreds of pages which eventually only 2-3 people even read. I'm sure most can admit that posting about Nasser is more interesting and entertaining than their "Hulkster Truce" debates. If anyone contests to that, why is it then that no one else gets involved in their debates while Nasser discussions draw many interested posters :)
Because he's both polemical and a lurker/puppeteer her on GB!? People tend to dislike hypocrisy. :)
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BigBobs vs Hulkster vs ND
Who will win the cyber slug fest?
Bigbobs is more intelligent than both of them combined. However, these guys have no job and will have the same argument over and over with seemingly no stop. Bobs has a great job and full life so he would not bother after maybe 20 pages but these two will go and go . Post the same pictures at each other for many hours. Bigbobs would win on page 8 but they would not realize as they only read what they type ;D
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1995 Grand Prix England - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Vince Taylor
2 Kevin Levrone
3 Charles Clairmonte
1995 Grand Prix France - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Vince Taylor
2 Charles Clairmonte
1995 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Kevin Levrone
2 Vince Taylor
1995 Grand Prix Russia - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Kevin Levrone
2 Vince Taylor
1995 Grand Prix Spain - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Kevin Levrone
2 Vince Taylor
1995 Grand Prix Ukraine - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Vince Taylor
1995 Olympia - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Dorian Yates
2 Kevin Levrone
1996 Grand Prix Spain - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Dorian Yates
2 Paul Dillett
1996 Olympia - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Dorian Yates
2 Shawn Ray
3 Kevin Levrone
4 Ken Wheeler (Flex)
5 Paul Dillett
6 Ronnie Coleman
7 Chris Cormier
8 Jean Pierre Fux
9 Charles Clairmonte
10 Michael Francois
11 Aaron Baker
12 Roland Cziurlock
13 Mike Matarazzo
1997 Arnold Classic - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Ken Wheeler (Flex)
1997 Grand Prix Czech Republic - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Kevin Levrone
2 Chris Cormier
1997 Grand Prix England - IFBB
1 Kevin Levrone
2 Chris Cormier
1997 Grand Prix Finland - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Kevin Levrone
2 Chris Cormier
3 Ronnie Coleman
1997 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Kevin Levrone
1997 Grand Prix Hungary - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Kevin Levrone
1997 Grand Prix Russia - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Ronnie Coleman
2 Kevin Levrone
1997 Grand Prix Spain - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Kevin Levrone
1997 San Jose Pro Invitational - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Ken Wheeler (Flex)
1998 Arnold Classic - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Ken Wheeler (Flex)
1998 Grand Prix Finland - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Ronnie Coleman
2 Kevin Levrone
1998 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Ronnie Coleman
2 Kevin Levrone
1998 Olympia - IFBB
Nasser lost to
1 Ronnie Coleman
2 Ken Wheeler (Flex)
he rarely lost to any of these men
Bobs your quote was he ' rarely lost to any of these men? lol these guys routinely beat Nasser show-in-show-out he was a good bodybuilder but let's not act like he was Dorian Yates and untouchable ;)
hahaha, brutal meltdown posting numerous Grand Prix shows and naming every competitor at the 96 Olympia. How long did that take you do compile?
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Bigbobs is more intelligent than both of them combined. However, these guys have no job and will have the same argument over and over with seemingly no stop. Bobs has a great job and full life so he would not bother after maybe 20 pages but these two will go and go . Post the same pictures at each other for many hours. Bigbobs would win on page 8 but they would not realize as they only read what they type ;D
LOL. Amazing. How do you do it, 'Sharma?' Is there a mirror near your computer? ;D
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haha, even though I'm on the side of the better bodybuilder, they have me beat in that both have more time on their hands to post about their bodybuilder. I'm not willing to go nearly 2000 pages with anyone over the same topic while they are. I would rather spend some of that time actually hanging out with the bodybuilder or talking to him on the phone or with other friends or the girlfriend, than mindlessly writing about him for hundreds of pages which eventually only 2-3 people even read. I'm sure most can admit that posting about Nasser is more interesting and entertaining than their "Hulkster Truce" debates. If anyone contests to that, why is it then that no one else gets involved in their debates while Nasser discussions draw many interested posters :)
Again better at what? Nasser never beat Dorian ever , hence he wasn't a better bodybuilder ;) and sorry your interest in Nasser far exceeds anything Hulkster and I can ever come up with , I've never met Yates , don't have any desire to meet Yates , never emailed him , bought any of his products I don't even think he's the greatest bodybuilder ever , Hulkster is a fanatic but you're above & beyond both of us lol I liked how you added girlfriend and how she followed Nasser lmao
I think you're a good guy Bob albeit delusional but you're okay in my book.
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hahaha, brutal meltdown posting numerous Grand Prix shows and naming every competitor at the 96 Olympia. How long did that take you do compile?
meltdown? I beg to differ that's proof that your claim is flat-out wrong and we both know it , what else are you going to say? and it took me 5 minutes of CCP ;)
and every competitor did beat Nasser in 1996 he was DQ'ed he has no official placing the point stands the men you mentioned didn't rarely beat him they routinely did
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Again better at what? Nasser never beat Dorian ever , hence he wasn't a better bodybuilder ;) and sorry your interest in Nasser far exceeds anything Hulkster and I can ever come up with , I've never met Yates , don't have any desire to meet Yates , never emailed him , bought any of his products I don't even think he's the greatest bodybuilder ever , Hulkster is a fanatic but you're above & beyond both of us lol I liked how you added girlfriend and how she followed Nasser lmao
I think you're a good guy Bob albeit delusional but you're okay in my book.
he bathes in nasser's soiled thongs, it's pathetic.
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you always know that a pumpkinhead is defeated when they have to resort to pathetic and tired "thong" jokes
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you always know that a pumpkinhead is defeated when they have to resort to pathetic and tired "thong" jokes
hahaha
1999 Grand Prix England, 6th
1999 Mr. Olympia, 6th
1999 World Pro Championships, 6th
2000 Mr. Olympia, 5th
2001 Mr. Olympia, 9th
2002 Arnold Classic, 10th
2002 Mr. Olympia, 15th
2004 Night of Champions, 15th
2004 Show of Strength Pro Championship, 14th
2005 Europa Supershow, 14th
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hahaha, brutal meltdown posting numerous Grand Prix shows and naming every competitor at the 96 Olympia. How long did that take you do compile?
Dude give it up, ND just delivered a gigantic pwning on your ass.
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Nasser was a man who was beat into retirement.............. .. no doubt about it
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Nasser is a man who walked away from bodybuilding because he could afford to both financially and emotionally ...no doubt about it
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Exactly. Everyone talks about how awesome Dillet looks and give his lone shots as examples, but when you put him next to Huge Nasser it's a different story :) Dillet was great, but he's no Nasser.
QFT
Nasser just killing dillet there
people like to critique Nasser's back saying it was weak- it most definitely was not. it had massive width, thickness and detail to match the best in the 90's.
it just was not as dry and crisp as some others in the RDB pose, 1 pose only.
Nasser's RLS was awesome.
if people want to nit pick with flaws then that is the "flaw" they will mention on Nasser because Nasser had close to a perfect physique, shape and symmetry wise ,which is astounding for his body wieght and mass.
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Nasser is a man who walked away from bodybuilding because he could afford to both financially and emotionally ...no doubt about it
you mean Nasser is a man who walked away from bodybuilding because he didn't place higher than 5th for 7 years
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you mean Nasser is a man who walked away from bodybuilding because he didn't place higher than 5th for 7 years
After September 11th high places for a guy with an Arabic name weren't going to happen.
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So you are still TEAM DREALORD even though he was shown to be very sad and agreeeing with himself constantly and telling himself he was wonderful and having long conversations with his very own self and he now hides in shame and humiliation, destroyed by his own pathetic obsession with Nasser and the TEAM.
An obsession that you seem to share my friend.
ah, the great sharma
singlehandedly sent the pumpkinhead DREADLORD into oblivion
Team Nasser dominating the losers/wannabes/never were's trying to hate on Nasser
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After September 11th high places for a guy with an Arabic name weren't going to happen.
bigbobs, why are you using two accounts at the same time?
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After September 11th high places for a guy with an Arabic name weren't going to happen.
Racism!? Samir wouldn't stoop to such an excuse. Oh brother. ::)
/where's squad with the back-up?
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ah, the great sharma
singlehandedly sent the pumpkinhead DREADLORD into oblivion
Team Nasser dominating the losers/wannabes/never were's trying to hate on Nasser
HAHA great to see you here Swami, one the best no-nonsense posters on the website. A man with a fantastic knowledge and understanding of the sport and Nasser's rightful place at the head of the spear. Special mention must also go to "sweetmuscles" who made dreadlord look an idiot and coward.
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many thanks Sharma
when did the Dreadlord meltdown occur and on what thread?
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HAHA great to see you here Swami, one the best no-nonsense posters on the website. A man with a fantastic knowledge and understanding of the sport and Nasser's rightful place at the head of the spear. Special mention must also go to "sweetmuscles" who made dreadlord look an idiot and coward.
True. And yourself!? ???
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many thanks Sharma
when did the Dreadlord meltdown occur and on what thread?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=262026.0
It is on here my friend. He has run away since this happened ;D
All talk, all bitterness and self-hate manifesting itself as Nasser and TEAM Nasser member stalking ;D
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bigbobsAXA, why are you using two accounts at the same time?
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Yes, the biased judges placed the inferior Wheeler with unusual delts and arms and extremely narrow physique above a near-flawless Nasser. When Ray, Nasser, Cormier, and Levrone were all at their best Nasser repeatedly beat them - primarily 95 Olympia through to 99 Arnolc Classic - he rarely lost to any of these men - only to Levrone in 95 (since Nasser was still the newcomer to the top ranks) and to Ray in 96. He also beat Wheeler at the Olympia in 95, 96 and 97.
Sorry, this was the lean to the bone Flex, the one that Shawn Ray trained. There was nothing suspect, other than Nasser's flat as pancake back...
Nasser was, is inferior to Flex, and company. Face it. Nasser may be more intelligent, but that is about it.
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After September 11th high places for a guy with an Arabic name weren't going to happen.
Give me a break..you are an idiot if you think that and Nasser to ::)
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And which bodyparts are those? ::)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=179021.0;attach=208413;image)
And here we see Dillett G'ed (GHB) to the f'in hilt as usual. Big goofy F'in Dork that he is. ::)
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Nasser is a man who walked away from bodybuilding because he could afford to both financially and emotionally ...no doubt about it
No he didn't. He tried and tried to break top 8 and failed at it. He had a lot of problems realizing that his time was up. If he walked away from bodybuilding he would have stopped in/before 1999.But he didn't. After retirement he continued his claim for fame by spouting his bitterness by trolling bodybuilding board's and giving backstabbing interviews. How sad is that? Very classy.
1999 Grand Prix England, 6th
1999 Mr. Olympia, 6th
1999 World Pro Championships, 6th
2000 Mr. Olympia, 5th
2001 Mr. Olympia, 9th
2002 Arnold Classic, 10th
2002 Mr. Olympia, 15th
2004 Night of Champions, 15th
2004 Show of Strength Pro Championship, 14th
2005 Europa Supershow, 14th