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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: robins on February 16, 2009, 12:37:08 AM
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Why does he wear a beanie?? Was it cold in there??
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are all white people that goofy?
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are all white people that goofy?
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Real strong for a natural.
Its a shame he doesn't have the greatest genetics for muscle shape. If he did he could be the best natural on the planet. Great work ethic and scientific knowledge. Genetics holding him back.
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wow. thats really impressive.
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Not impressed at all. Squadfather is way stronger, he squats 560 for 5/6 deep reps.
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Not impressed at all. Squadfather is way stronger, he squats 560 for 5/6 deep reps.
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very impressive deadlift
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Dude's a goofball.
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I would really love it if some who are ripping on the guy to do a video yourselves deadlifting 600lbs with no straps and a dual pronated grip.
P.S. Doubt we'll see any videos. Who the fuck cares if he wears a beanie. The guy is strong and gives his all.
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strong as hell..but no way he's a lifetime natural
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Layne owning all the tools who talk shit.
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strong as hell..but no way he's a lifetime natural
Oh he is. He is diplomatic in public but he is actually dead against steroid use. Anyone who thinks Layne has taken steroids is trying to make his self feel better about not having his drive.
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Oh he is. He is diplomatic in public but he is actually dead against steroid use. Anyone who thinks Layne has taken steroids is trying to make his self feel better about not having his drive.
How do you really know? Hang out with him 24 hours a day? Nobody knows if anybody else is truly 100% natural. He might be, but you don't know shit.
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no monolift for the squat. i have never seen a meet where you have to walk out the weight to squat it..thats dangerous
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wow look at all the low post count
members nuthuggers
coming out of the woodwork.
back to bb.com with all of you and remember to be diplomatic dipblowmatic
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Layne is a good dude, very strong and these lifts are damn impressive.
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great lifts
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Good for Layne.
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cool vid
and what's wrong with wearing a beanie? people wear beanies and hats everywhere
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A lot of jealous haters in this thread. Not a single one of you could sniff those weights at 225 lbs. Goof or not, that guy is strong as fuck.
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probably helped him to point at god before the last lift.
I honestly hate layne, but hes a strong fucker.
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How do you really know? Hang out with him 24 hours a day? Nobody knows if anybody else is truly 100% natural. He might be, but you don't know shit.
No, YOU don't know shit. I know Layne well enough to know that it is highly unlikely he has, or would ever, use steroids. Obviously we can never be 100% of most things - you might like wearing your mother's dresses, but I would guess you don't - but he has had numerous blood test and polygraph tests that prove him clean.
Therefore I know more than "shit". I can make a very informed judgement about Layne as I know him. Don't hate and be suspicious because you can't do the things he can.
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Anyone who thinks layne is on steroids is really fucking stupid.
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Anyone who thinks layne is on steroids is really fucking stupid.
They want to believe it because he makes them burn with envy.
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layne is the pure exemple of a typical ectomorph with ton of will and dedication. You can see from his body he has never ever been on steroids. He just doesnt have what it takes in terms of muscle shape, and i assume thats why he got into the powerlifting/strict weight lifting thing instead of wasting his time in the "bodybuilding" world..
He is dead right to do this.There is nothing to achieve in the "bodybuilding" world everyone laugh at.
It's very motivating and inspirational to say the least for all ectomorphes. He enjoys lifting weight before and foremost. I guess he s on creatine and high carb diet to be able to pull of these lifts.
It is smart to go from the bodybuilding stuff to this "strict weight lifting" attitude. He keeps it real, he keeps it natural, that's what appeal to me cause i am sick of wieght lifting being constantly associated by the general public to either gay steroid abusers or fat powerlifting pigs.
You can laugh at obese powerlifters or pregnant looking chemical experiments with obvious psychological issues, but you re not going to laugh at a lean tall guy with some muscle lifting huge amounts of weights.
It screams healthy strenght.
And for once form is text book.
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are all white people that goofy?
racist.
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For all the shit he gets from people online,the bottom line is he`s one strong SOB.
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strong as hell..but no way he's a lifetime natural
Go Fuck yourself.
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and what's wrong with this guy?
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are all white people that goofy?
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layne lifts houses off of there foundations for falcon rental properties...
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fcukin wwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaa akkkkkkk
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Layne's something else, isn't he?
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ronnie coleman can do that ;D
Great Job Layne Norton!
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Impressive lifts for sure, especially the deadlift.
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no monolift for the squat. i have never seen a meet where you have to walk out the weight to squat it..thats dangerous
You obviously have not been to very many powerlifting meets. By the way, these lifts are not that impressive for his weight class, ecxcept for the last deadlift. Where are the bench vids??
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You obviously have not been to very many powerlifting meets. By the way, these lifts are not that impressive for his weight class, ecxcept for the last deadlift. Where are the bench vids??
not that impressive eh? ::)
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Layne is a good dude, very strong and these lifts are damn impressive.
yeah, but what is the point to lifting this heavy weight? A bad back when he is 40 years old and other muscles tears to look forward to? He doesn't gain any money from injuring himself, it is idiotic and motivated by pure ego. Lift moderate and with good form and live a regular life, this is not where it is at.
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are all white people that goofy?
What? Are you implying your NOT white??
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He has to be the smallest 215lb guy I've ever seen.
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yeah, but what is the point to lifting this heavy weight? A bad back when he is 40 years old and other muscles tears to look forward to? He doesn't gain any money from injuring himself, it is idiotic and motivated by pure ego. Lift moderate and with good form and live a regular life, this is not where it is at.
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im not even going to address what you just said any further other than to say that what you said is based upon pure unadulterated ignorance.
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im not even going to address what you just said any further other than to say that what you said is based upon pure unadulterated ignorance.
JtSunami doesn't even lift weights. Look at his picture:
(http://b9.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01118/94/02/1118602049_l.jpg)
(http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/107/l_8c4024c6ed401bab0a2f6c8287df5a3a.jpg)
Obviously he doesn't know what motivation and dedication are about, and why lifting the heaviest one can lift is a desirable goal.
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You obviously have not been to very many powerlifting meets. By the way, these lifts are not that impressive for his weight class, ecxcept for the last deadlift. Where are the bench vids??
This guy is natural unlike 99% of powerlifters.
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Anyone who thinks layne is on steroids is really fucking stupid.
LMAO! HAHA Not this fucking shit again. Layne may not be ON steroids like a bodybuilder all the time. But no way in hell he's fucking natural. I've seen his bodybuilding pics and you guys that claiim all these bodybuilders are natural are fucking morons and straight up clueless.
http://www.hugi.is/heilsa/images.php?page=view&contentId=5328054
Yeah he's real "natural" You fucking morons!
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LMAO! HAHA Not this fucking shit again. Layne may not be ON steroids like a bodybuilder all the time. But no way in hell he's fucking natural. I've seen his bodybuilding pics and you guys that claiim all these bodybuilders are natural are fucking morons and straight up clueless.
http://www.hugi.is/heilsa/images.php?page=view&contentId=5328054
Yeah he's real "natural" You fucking morons!
You really are quite pathetic.
Layne is the biggest natural proponent and anti-steroid guy there is out there. If LAYNE isn't natural...NO ONE is natural. Layne is super strict about even the remotest thing resembling steroids. That's his whole Shtick. He's a natural bodybuilder, that's what he does and what he's known for.
If you think Layne's physique looks like someone who isn't natural....You're beyond saving. I feel sorry for you. How crappy must you look to believe such a comical thing?
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You really are quite pathetic.
Layne is the biggest natural proponent and anti-steroid guy there is out there. If LAYNE isn't natural...NO ONE is natural. Layne is super strict about even the remotest thing resembling steroids. That's his whole Shtick. He's a natural bodybuilder, that's what he does and what he's known for.
If you think Layne's physique looks like someone who isn't natural....You're beyond saving. I feel sorry for you. How crappy must you look to believe such a comical thing?
What do they say about those who protest the most? Something to think about.
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You really are quite pathetic.
Layne is the biggest natural proponent and anti-steroid guy there is out there. If LAYNE isn't natural...NO ONE is natural. Layne is super strict about even the remotest thing resembling steroids. That's his whole Shtick. He's a natural bodybuilder, that's what he does and what he's known for.
If you think Layne's physique looks like someone who isn't natural....You're beyond saving. I feel sorry for you. How crappy must you look to believe such a comical thing?
EXACTLY..........that's his SCHTICK! I.e. way to make money and market himself! Otherwise he'd be a no name joe blow with a subpar physique and average lifts. For someone your age you really are super naive. And you're right maybe .000001% of the bodybuilders out there are actually natural........and most of them would never receive much attention with all the steroid using bodybuilders. If you want to see what natural bodybuilders REALLY look like pic up a magazine from the 40's and 50's. 99% of those guys were in fact natural and their physiques look NOTHING like Layne Norton and this Doug guy you idolize. And let me clarify........anabolic steroids aren't the only things that make someone unnatural. ephedrine, prohormones, ANY DRUG that manipulates someone's hormonal output or metabolism.
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EXACTLY..........that's his SCHTICK! I.e. way to make money and market himself! Otherwise he'd be a no name joe blow with a subpar physique and average lifts. For someone your age you really are super naive. And you're right maybe .000001% of the bodybuilders out there are actually natural........and most of them would never receive much attention with all the steroid using bodybuilders. If you want to see what natural bodybuilders REALLY look like pic up a magazine from the 40's and 50's. 99% of those guys were in fact natural and their physiques look NOTHING like Layne Norton and this Doug guy you idolize. And let me clarify........anabolic steroids aren't the only things that make someone unnatural. ephedrine, prohormones, ANY DRUG that manipulates someone's hormonal output or metabolism.
If Layne actually did Anabolic Steroids, He'd be much much more massive than he currently is.
Ephedrine doesn't make someone unnatural. If it did, Caffeine would also. Are you claiming that a Coca Cola makes someone unnatural? Caffeine does the same thing that ephedrine does.
I've said it before, I'll say it again....EVERYTHING ONE PUTS INTO THEIR BODY AFFECTS THE HORMONE AND METABOLISM.
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If Layne actually did Anabolic Steroids, He'd be much much more massive than he currently is.
Ephedrine doesn't make someone unnatural. If it did, Caffeine would also. Are you claiming that a Coca Cola makes someone unnatural? Caffeine does the same thing that ephedrine does.
I've said it before, I'll say it again....EVERYTHING ONE PUTS INTO THEIR BODY AFFECTS THE HORMONE AND METABOLISM.
because the second you take steroids you become MUCH MUCH MORE MASSIVE..lol your a retard
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If Layne actually did Anabolic Steroids, He'd be much much more massive than he currently is.
Ephedrine doesn't make someone unnatural. If it did, Caffeine would also. Are you claiming that a Coca Cola makes someone unnatural? Caffeine does the same thing that ephedrine does.
I've said it before, I'll say it again....EVERYTHING ONE PUTS INTO THEIR BODY AFFECTS THE HORMONE AND METABOLISM.
Having a coke or a cup of coffee everyday is a helluva lot different than downing pils of ECA. So no ephedrine is NOT natural. Guys in the 40's and 50's like I said 99% of them took nothing but food and hard work in the gym. Hence why their physiques look nothing like that of Layne Norton's or Doug Miller's and all the other full of shit naturals. I know lots of guys who are "Natural" in every sense of the word and they would NEVER get the publicity that Norton and other frauds get because their physiques can't compete with the drugs. Steroids and other drugs are RAMPANT in the fitness industry and among even recreational bodybuilders who don't compete or make their living from fitness. So to think Layne or anyone else is truly natural when his entire image and livelihood relies on this is naive.
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double overhand grip deadlift...very impressive.
Good lifts. I believe he is natural and strong as a natty
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because the second you take steroids you become MUCH MUCH MORE MASSIVE..lol your a retard
After a cycle.
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Having a coke or a cup of coffee everyday is a helluva lot different than downing pils of ECA. So no ephedrine is NOT natural. Guys in the 40's and 50's like I said 99% of them took nothing but food and hard work in the gym. Hence why their physiques look nothing like that of Layne Norton's or Doug Miller's and all the other full of shit naturals. I know lots of guys who are "Natural" in every sense of the word and they would NEVER get the publicity that Norton and other frauds get because their physiques can't compete with the drugs. Steroids and other drugs are RAMPANT in the fitness industry and among even recreational bodybuilders who don't compete or make their living from fitness. So to think Layne or anyone else is truly natural when his entire image and livelihood relies on this is naive.
You're not answering my question, only repeating what you've said.
1. EXPLAIN HOW CAFFEINE IS NATURAL BUT EPHEDRINE IS NOT. They have almost identical effects on the metabolism and hormonal systems.
2. Repeating a 4th time. Everything people put into their bodies affects their metabolism & hormones. Why is 1 thing that affects metabolism and hormones "natural" but another thing isn't?
3. Guys who never took steroids back in the day look quite impressive, and if they were to post their pictures here everyone would be saying they use steroids today:
Jack Lalanne
(http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/brainiac/lalanne.jpg)
(http://housewifeinhollywood.com/wp-content/gallery/all/age_40.jpg)
Apply modern supplements (not drugs), modern nutrition and modern exercise equipment and he'd likely be larger and more defined than Layne Norton.
P.S. Jack Lalanne actually said that in his time none of the modern equipment was there, and he actually invented the prototypes of many modern gym equipments. So he was at a big disadvantage in the 1930s and 1940s.
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You're not answering my question, only repeating what you've said.
1. EXPLAIN HOW CAFFEINE IS NATURAL BUT EPHEDRINE IS NOT. They have almost identical effects on the metabolism and hormonal systems.
2. Repeating a 4th time. Everything people put into their bodies affects their metabolism & hormones. Why is 1 thing that affects metabolism and hormones "natural" but another thing isn't?
3. Guys who never took steroids back in the day look quite impressive, and if they were to post their pictures here everyone would be saying they use steroids today:
Jack Lalanne
(http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/brainiac/lalanne.jpg)
(http://housewifeinhollywood.com/wp-content/gallery/all/age_40.jpg)
Apply modern supplements (not drugs), modern nutrition and modern exercise equipment and he'd likely be larger and more defined than Layne Norton.
P.S. Jack Lalanne actually said that in his time none of the modern equipment was there, and he actually invented the prototypes of many modern gym equipments. So he was at a big disadvantage in the 1930s and 1940s.
I already explained to you that there is a difference between consuming a cup of coffee or a coke vs. popping ECA pills. Do you not understand that difference? If you don't well.......you're a dumbass plain and simple.
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Jack Lalanne was born in 1914 so that makes him 40 years old in 1954..............probab ly the peak of his physical conditioning and muscle mass. Layne Norton is what 27 years old and he's bigger and much more ripped and vascular than Lalanne. Give it up dude. You're losing this argument.......and making yourself look like a fool. I never said Layne is a steroid abusing bodybuilder..........but "natural" he is not. It's all bullshit to make a name for himself. And modern equipment means fuck all. Hence Sigmund Klein, Saxon brothers, and Sandow. Amazing physiques and feats of strength. You can get big and strong lifting stones and tree trunks in the woods. You don't need Smith and Hammer machines. Also modern nutrition? WTF does that mean? Bodybuilders eat like shit nowadays. Supplements are worthless. Do you realize that Jack Lalanne in his early days was a raw foodist? He drank gallons and gallons of raw milk and raw cream and also ate raw meat for a good part of his life. Don't talk to me about the history of bodybuilding. You will lose that argument badly.
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i do believe that if i had laynes driver, worth etic and knowledge at 27 i could look just as good as him.
if he is natural or not (i think yes) it cant be said for certain. HOWEVER it is possible IMO
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i do believe that if i had laynes driver, worth etic and knowledge at 27 i could look just as good as him.
His chauffeur or driver for the green ::)
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i do believe that if i had laynes driver, worth etic and knowledge at 27 i could look just as good as him.
if he is natural or not (i think yes) it cant be said for certain. HOWEVER it is possible IMO
You usually sound like a pretty intelligent guy Goudy or atleast someone with some common sense but I gotta say you're clueless regarding steroids, contest prep etc. Someone like you tells me they are natural I could believe it. But there is no way in hell that Layne Norton is natural come contest prep. I would believe he was natural being 5'10, 220 with 18 inch arms offseason. But you don't drop 30lbs and get ripped with 18 inch arms without chemical assistance. Anyone who believes that has NEVER dieted nor gotten into contest prep in their life. Like I said he may not be a huge steroid user but there's no fucking way in hell the guy is natural. And in my opinion being natural is food, training, vitamins, protein, and creatine. THAT's IT! No prohormones, no ephedrine, no clen, no T3!
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Layne's driver is on crank
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EXACTLY..........that's his SCHTICK! I.e. way to make money and market himself! Otherwise he'd be a no name joe blow with a subpar physique and average lifts. For someone your age you really are super naive. And you're right maybe .000001% of the bodybuilders out there are actually natural........and most of them would never receive much attention with all the steroid using bodybuilders. If you want to see what natural bodybuilders REALLY look like pic up a magazine from the 40's and 50's. 99% of those guys were in fact natural and their physiques look NOTHING like Layne Norton and this Doug guy you idolize. And let me clarify........anabolic steroids aren't the only things that make someone unnatural. ephedrine, prohormones, ANY DRUG that manipulates someone's hormonal output or metabolism.
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Bingo.
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GREAT LIFTS...Congrats on breaking the record!
Glad your pec healed up nicely!
Why the "both hands over grip"?
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did he claim 18" arms in contest condition.
I doubt he has. However they look 18" and thats what counts
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Again, somebody tell me he didn't start using (or used more) something around 1:30 in this video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3516327422111020106
because he did, and you can tell.
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GREAT LIFTS...Congrats on breaking the record!
Glad your pec healed up nicely!
Why the "both hands over grip"?
if he can do both hands over grip ten why not do it. puts less strain on the bicep than mixed grip.
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back when i used to read teenbodybuilding.com ::) before i found getbig
i used to think Layne was awesome and i wanted to look they way he did. I like the guy and wish him nothing but good luck and success in life
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He looks clean, but regardless, he busted his ass, recovered nicely from several injuries and put good quality muscle on (not being abrassive with this statement) on a thin frame....his genetics!
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did he claim 18" arms in contest condition.
I doubt he has. However they look 18" and thats what counts
::) sure buddy.
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if he can do both hands over grip ten why not do it. puts less strain on the bicep than mixed grip.
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Yes, you are correct, less strain on the biceps...but strength will be greater with a stagger grip, just curious why he did the hands over....
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Yes, you are correct, less strain on the biceps...but strength will be greater with a stagger grip, just curious why he did the hands over....
Hook grip.
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layne is great for the sport you dumb bitches
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::) sure buddy.
you said noway he has 18" arms in contest mode clean.
i said i doubt they are 18 but look huge and thats what counts.
whats with the ::) for?
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I already explained to you that there is a difference between consuming a cup of coffee or a coke vs. popping ECA pills. Do you not understand that difference? If you don't well.......you're a dumbass plain and simple.
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? I truly don't understand the difference. Why? THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE.
You keep saying that there is a difference....WHAT DIFFERENCE?
Caffeine is very very similar to ephedrine. They work slightly differently, but they both affect the metabolic systems similarly. So how is one natural but one not natural? Especially synthetic caffeine, which soft drinks contain.
Secondly,
Jack Lalanne was born in 1914 so that makes him 40 years old in 1954..............probab ly the peak of his physical conditioning and muscle mass. Layne Norton is what 27 years old and he's bigger and much more ripped and vascular than Lalanne. Give it up dude. You're losing this argument.......and making yourself look like a fool. I never said Layne is a steroid abusing bodybuilder..........but "natural" he is not. It's all bullshit to make a name for himself. And modern equipment means fuck all. Hence Sigmund Klein, Saxon brothers, and Sandow. Amazing physiques and feats of strength. You can get big and strong lifting stones and tree trunks in the woods. You don't need Smith and Hammer machines. Also modern nutrition? WTF does that mean? Bodybuilders eat like shit nowadays. Supplements are worthless. Do you realize that Jack Lalanne in his early days was a raw foodist? He drank gallons and gallons of raw milk and raw cream and also ate raw meat for a good part of his life. Don't talk to me about the history of bodybuilding. You will lose that argument badly.
Jack Lalanne might have been at "his" peak at 40, but Layne Norton is likely at HIS peak at his age. Do you know how much the human body changes between 25 and 40? Good God, the amount of Testosterone difference is huge.
Layne is natural by the definition of the natural organizations. If you claim ephedrine is not natural, whatever. That's bullocks.
You can get muscles by lifting "tree trunks", But you'd get much larger muscles lifting with modern gym equipment. Trust me. I know the difference.
Supplements aren't worthless. Whey Protein and Creatine make quite a difference.
You are simply ignorant of Bodybuilding, Bodybuilding history, Natural bodybuilding and especially ignorant of the human physiology.
You claim ephedrine is not natural but synthetic caffeine is natural. This is utter ignorance.
You claim that lifting tree trunks in the woods is equal to a modern gym?
You claim that someone at 40 is more at their peak than someone who is 27?
I'm tired of wasting my time.
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you said noway he has 18" arms in contest mode clean.
i said i doubt they are 18 but look huge and thats what counts.
whats with the ::) for?
Look huge? His arms look huge when he is pumped up and in the gym. They look huge in various pics but for the most part evident in the video I just watched his arms look way below 18 inches.
In his video he claims 18 inches. In most of his profiles on the web he claims 17.5". A legit muscular 18 inch arm usually means in shape not offseason. That's stupid. Yeah I have 18 inch arms but 1.5 inches are fat??????? ::) Whether he has 17.5" arms or 18 inch arms doesn't matter. You don't have that naturally at 27 years old without assistance. But Goudy aren't yours close to 21 inches? LOL. Some of you guys have no clue just how big a legit 18 inch arm is.
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You usually sound like a pretty intelligent guy Goudy or atleast someone with some common sense but I gotta say you're clueless regarding steroids, contest prep etc. Someone like you tells me they are natural I could believe it. But there is no way in hell that Layne Norton is natural come contest prep. I would believe he was natural being 5'10, 220 with 18 inch arms offseason. But you don't drop 30lbs and get ripped with 18 inch arms without chemical assistance. Anyone who believes that has NEVER dieted nor gotten into contest prep in their life. Like I said he may not be a huge steroid user but there's no fucking way in hell the guy is natural. And in my opinion being natural is food, training, vitamins, protein, and creatine. THAT's IT! No prohormones, no ephedrine, no clen, no T3!
God damnit. You're stupid. You claim that Natural top competitors, Bodybuilding experts, Even people you tout in previous posts are all "clueless" about steroids and bodybuilding?
YOU ARE CLUELESS!
I've dieted tons in my life and it's difficult to get down to single digit bodyfat, but it's not impossible. All it means is you have to stop stuffing your face with KFC and McDonalds. Which is obviously hard for someone like you.
You're just a nobody sitting at his computer with a shitty physique JEALOUS of top bodybuilders..Claiming they can't be natural because YOU are unable to accomplish what they did.
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WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? I truly don't understand the difference. Why? THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE.
You keep saying that there is a difference....WHAT DIFFERENCE?
Caffeine is very very similar to ephedrine. They work slightly differently, but they both affect the metabolic systems similarly. So how is one natural but one not natural? Especially synthetic caffeine, which soft drinks contain.
Jack Lalanne might have been at "his" peak at 40, but Layne Norton is likely at HIS peak at his age. Do you know how much the human body changes between 25 and 40? Good God, the amount of Testosterone difference is huge.
Layne is natural by the definition of the natural organizations. If you claim ephedrine is not natural, whatever. That's bullocks.
You can get muscles by lifting "tree trunks", But you'd get much larger muscles lifting with modern gym equipment. Trust me. I know the difference.
Supplements aren't worthless. Whey Protein and Creatine make quite a difference.
You are simply ignorant of Bodybuilding, Bodybuilding history, Natural bodybuilding and especially ignorant of the human physiology.
You claim ephedrine is not natural but synthetic caffeine is natural. This is utter ignorance.
You claim that lifting tree trunks in the woods is equal to a modern gym?
You claim that someone at 40 is more at their peak than someone who is 27?
I'm tired of wasting my time.
Clueless Meltdown
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MuscleMcMannus and Tacobell are 2 posers who spend all of their time on the internet and have no clue what it's like to live a true bodybuilding lifestyle. They are just wannabees and posers who like to attack the accomplishments of others and claim that they can't be done without using drugs. It's an issue of jealousy and inferiority complexes, for sure.
TacoBell claims he's bigger than all of the top naturals and everyone who posted in the previous thread...But he refuses to post a picture because of "privacy"...What a joke.
This whole thing is both sad and funny at the same time. If that's even possible.
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Caffeine is a bitter, white crystalline xanthine alkaloid that acts as a psychoactive stimulant drug and a mild diuretic[3].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine#Metabolism_and_half-life
Ephedrine (EPH) is a sympathomimetic amine commonly used as a stimulant, appetite suppressant, concentration aid, decongestant, and to treat hypotension associated with anaesthesia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephedrine
Yet the synthetic DRUG of caffeine when used is "natural" but ephedrine when used is not natural? ::)
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God damnit. You're stupid. You claim that Natural top competitors, Bodybuilding experts, Even people you tout in previous posts are all "clueless" about steroids and bodybuilding?
YOU ARE CLUELESS!
I've dieted tons in my life and it's difficult to get down to single digit bodyfat, but it's not impossible. All it means is you have to stop stuffing your face with KFC and McDonalds. Which is obviously hard for someone like you.
You're just a nobody sitting at his computer with a shitty physique JEALOUS of top bodybuilders..Claiming they can't be natural because YOU are unable to accomplish what they did.
Oh brother........now you're starting to sound like Tom Venuto and his ridiculous claims of 3.7% naturally! You're clueless!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine#Metabolism_and_half-life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephedrine
Yet the synthetic DRUG of caffeine when used is "natural" but ephedrine when used is not natural? ::)
Calm down junior it's only the internet.
::)
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MuscleMcMannus and Tacobell are 2 posers who spend all of their time on the internet and have no clue what it's like to live a true bodybuilding lifestyle. They are just wannabees and posers who like to attack the accomplishments of others and claim that they can't be done without using drugs. It's an issue of jealousy and inferiority complexes, for sure.
TacoBell claims he's bigger than all of the top naturals and everyone who posted in the previous thread...But he refuses to post a picture because of "privacy"...What a joke.
This whole thing is both sad and funny at the same time. If that's even possible.
LOL, I dont refuse to post pics, ive posted pics.
I just dont give a shit what you think either way.
You are a brutally stupid naive old fuck, Liberalschmoe
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine#Metabolism_and_half-life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephedrine
Yet the synthetic DRUG of caffeine when used is "natural" but ephedrine when used is not natural? ::)
Haha dude why are you so hung up on defending ephedrine and caffeine? Ephedrine HCL is produced by pharmaceutical companies. Caffeine in coffee is completely different than caffeine in an ECA stack or pill form. Food, creatine, vitamins,amino acids etc. do not effect the sympathetic nervous system to any significant degree hence in my opinion any bodybuilder using these substances is in fact natural.
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LOL, I dont refuse to post pics, ive posted pics.
I just dont give a shit what you think either way.
You are a brutally stupid naive old fuck, Liberalschmoe
LINK PLEASE.
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LINK PLEASE.
What part of 'I dont care what u think' confuses u most?
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What part of 'I dont care what u think' confuses u most?
LOL dude I don't think liberalismo can read. LMAO!
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Haha dude why are you so hung up on defending ephedrine and caffeine? Ephedrine HCL is produced by pharmaceutical companies. Caffeine in coffee is completely different than caffeine in an ECA stack or pill form. Food, creatine, vitamins,amino acids etc. do not effect the sympathetic nervous system to any significant degree hence in my opinion any bodybuilder using these substances is in fact natural.
How is Caffeine in coffee different from caffeine in a pill?
Also, How is Caffeine in a pill different from Caffeine in a soft drink or energy drink? BOTH are synthetic.
Too much coffee DOES significantly affect the sympathetic nervous system. In fact Caffeine isn't the only thing in Coffee that does so:
Coffee acutely increases sympathetic nerve activity and blood pressure independently of caffeine content: role of habitual versus nonhabitual drinking.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12460875
I've got TONS of studies proving that Caffeine has significant impacts on the nervous system. Should I start flooding the page with them? Or do you admit that you're FULL OF SHIT?
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LOL dude I don't think liberalismo can read. LMAO!
Are you suggesting that the movie 'Bad Santa' was an eye opening experience for Liberalschmoe?
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What part of 'I dont care what u think' confuses u most?
It's not what I think. It's what I KNOW.
I KNOW you're a poser.
So again...
LINK PLEASE!
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GREAT LIFTS...Congrats on breaking the record!
Glad your pec healed up nicely!
Why the "both hands over grip"?
Not double overhand, Hook grip.
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How is Caffeine in coffee different from caffeine in a pill?
Also, How is Caffeine in a pill different from Caffeine in a soft drink or energy drink? BOTH are synthetic.
Too much coffee DOES significantly affect the sympathetic nervous system. In fact Caffeine isn't the only thing in Coffee that does so:
Coffee acutely increases sympathetic nerve activity and blood pressure independently of caffeine content: role of habitual versus nonhabitual drinking.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12460875
I've got TONS of studies proving that Caffeine has significant impacts on the nervous system. Should I start flooding the page with them? Or do you admit that you're FULL OF SHIT?
LMAO! Ok now you are just getting silly and splitting hairs. You've already conceded that Layne is not natural. Now you want to spend all your time arguing what constitutes a natural. You've LOST the argument dude! Layen is not natural. This truth is resonating withing your mind or you wouldn't be so adamant about defending your point of view.
For the record you are right. I never said coffee does not effect the nervous system. I'm saying having A cup of coffee is not the same as taking Ephedrine HCL 3 times a day with meals nor is it the same as taking caffeine pills. There are people out there that abuse the shit out of coffee because of its effects on the central nervous system. So bottomline ANYTHING that affects the sympathetic nervous system to any degree is not natural so my argument still stands. And you're right coffee is not natural. So if Layne Norton uses coffee he is not natural. :) Creatine does not affect the sympathetic nervous system so it's natural. Satisfied!?
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It's not what I think. It's what I KNOW.
I KNOW you're a poser.
So again...
LINK PLEASE!
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LMAO! Ok now you are just getting silly. You've always conceded that Layne is not natural. Now you want to spend all your time arguing what constitutes a natural. You've LOST the argument dude! Layen is not natural. This truth is resonating withing your mind or you wouldn't be so adamant about defending your point of view.
For the record you are right. I never said coffee does not effect the nervous system. I'm saying having A cup of coffee is not the same as taking Ephedrine HCL 3 times a day with meals nor is it the same as taking caffeine pills. There are people out there that abuse the shit out of coffee because of its effects on the central nervous system. So bottomline ANYTHING that affects the sympathetic nervous system to any degree is not natural so my argument still stands. And you're right coffee is not natural. So if Layne Norton uses coffee he is not natural. :) Creatine does not affect the sympathetic nervous system so it's natural. Satisfied!?
Layne IS natural.
You are worse at debating than you are at thinking! You keep repeating the same old dead and refuted arguments over and over. You keep making the same claims without ever backing them up! I'm adamant about defending ALL of my views because I defend the truth!
You keep backtracking also. First you say that Caffeine is natural but Ephedrine isn't. Then you say a cup of coffee isn't the same a HCL stack. Then you say 1 cup of Coffee isn't the same as Ephedrine HCL 3 times a day! So what the fuck?
You NEVER ANSWERED THE QUESTION. WHY IS EPHEDRINE DIFFERENT FROM CAFFEINE PILLS? HOW?
Caffeine affects the sympathetic nervous system..So that isn't natural either???
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Liberalschmoe, you may wanna take a seat before I tell you this.......
ready..........
WWE wrestling is fake, I'm sorry.
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Liberalschmoe, you may wanna take a seat before I tell you this.......
ready..........
WWE wrestling is fake, I'm sorry.
STILL WAITING FOR YOUR PICTURE YOU POSER.
Why do you even post on a bodybuilding board if you aren't a body builder? I don't get it.
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STILL WAITING FOR YOUR PICTURE YOU POSER.
Why do you even post on a bodybuilding board if you aren't a body builder? I don't get it.
wow, reverse psychology....ur awesome at this :-\
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Dude you're like arguing with a retard. The only reason you question everything is I have to spell it out for you down to the letter. I never said caffeine is not natural I said caffeine in concentrated pill form is not natural. I said having a cup of coffee a day in the morning is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT than popping caffeine pills to lose weight. My god what is so hard to understand that???????? Ephderine is found in nature I'm sure. But ephedrine HCL in pill form is completely different than munching on some leaves. If Layne Norton was going to much on grass for weight loss no that's not natural. Having a cup of coffee isn't unnatural per se. But if Norton were to rely on that and take excessive amounts to manipulate fat loss then no it's not "natural" in my opinion.
Let me define my idea of a natural AGAIN!
FOOD, CREATINE, VITAMINS, AMINO ACIDS! But if you really want to split hairs creatine, vitamins and protien powders aren't technically "Natural". I mean fuck dude my entire point is that natural bodybuilding is stupid and ambiguous. I think bodybuilding should go back to its roots. FOOD AND HARD WORK IN THE GYM! Why are you defending this shit so much anyways? All it does is reinforce my argument that you can't achieve most of this shit without some sort of chemical assistance. If Norton thinks he's natural good for him. There are suckers born every minute.
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again this is totally stupid for him to do this, no money for him in it, only ego, he will end up crippled young, already tore his pec, he is going to break tear more thing in future, power lifting is dangerous and he already should have learned that.
jt
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The ortho did say something funny, he said "the fact that you have not complained about pain that much, only it being 'uncomfortable' just tells me that you have a ridiculous tolerance to pain". LOL
-Layne
This Layne Norton kid sounds like an idiot.
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This Lismo tit is obviously some retared teen who thinks he can get to 270lbs under 10% bf with just protein powder.
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This Lismo tit is obviously some retared teen who thinks he can get to 270lbs under 10% bf with just protein powder.
Supposedly he's a 40 year old guy with tons of experience.
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GREAT LIFTS...Congrats on breaking the record!
Glad your pec healed up nicely!
Why the "both hands over grip"?
Hook grip. Hurts like a guy but its solid and easier on the shoulders to lockout.
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Supposedly he's a 40 year old guy with tons of experience.
I'm not 40.
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Simply the greatest natural on the planet.
He absolutely DESTROYS Adam Adonis!
He DOMINATE Alex23
I hope Alex and Ables are taking notes.
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i think Layne is a strong guy and has a great build as well, too many Layne haters on here, dude is a very hard worker.
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whats a hook grip?
it looked double overhand to me
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whats a hook grip?
it looked double overhand to me
a hook grip is a double overhand grip where you "lock" your thumb between your index and middle fingers.
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sounds sore lol
what would make someone pick that grip? just preference?
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sounds sore lol
what would make someone pick that grip? just preference?
for a more secure grip instead of using either straps, an over/under grip or a double overhand grip, some lifters swear by it, i think that Chris Mason guy uses one and he pulls around 700 with it.
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I fear he is going to end up with something else torn if this is kept up without drugs.
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my grip is fine atm however no way in hell am i approaching weight near what he is so my grip would be ok.
i remember chris mason posting a front relaxed pic. guy looks great. his protein is good too
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I fear he is going to end up with something else torn if this is kept up without drugs.
only thing I agree with you on. The man is a freakin idiot for doing this, I would only do it if I was getting paid 50,000 plus a year to risk injury like this tool.
jt
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I do use a hook grip, and thanks for remembering me... :)
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I should also say those are great lifts by Layne! Very strong for a clean, raw lifter.
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I should also say those are great lifts by Layne! Very strong for a clean, raw lifter.
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whats a hook grip?
it looked double overhand to me
Eventually your hands are going to get messed up one way or the other.
First one is me. I was doing hook grip and it pulled on my nail enough that my finger started to bleed. Second one was my coach and he ripped his hand open with over/under grip.
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How many of these natural or not threads have we seen done about Layne over the years?
Who gives a fuck.........he`s got a good physique and he`s as strong as hell.............PERIOD.
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He's natural. I'm close to him in strength and got the vids on here to prove it and was only weighing 213 on the lifts i did. Also I did those lifts while dieting and not bulking up. He's a strong guy and it takes years to get to that on a natural level, trust me I know. Now if he's natural when competing...? Who knows? Either way a hard worker and much props for that. 8)
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power lifting is dangerous
It's funny when you say this because almost ANY other sport you can think of is actually more dangerous than powerlifting.
Edit: nevermind, it's that guy, why bother.
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Eventually your hands are going to get messed up one way or the other.
First one is me. I was doing hook grip and it pulled on my nail enough that my finger started to bleed. Second one was my coach and he ripped his hand open with over/under grip.
who cares about your hands the hook grip will almost completely eliminate the danger of a torn bicep that comes with the over/under grip
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Lets open this bitch back up, Layne Norton has used steroids in the past baby!!!!!!!!
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Lets open this bitch back up, Layne Norton has used steroids in the past baby!!!!!!!!
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Lets open this bitch back up, Layne Norton has used steroids in the past baby!!!!!!!!
You really don't have a clue.
Layne is natural
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You really don't have a clue.
Layne is natural
Some 'insider' you are
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Some 'insider' you are
I know more than you about the industry..............gu aranteed
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I know more than you about the industry..............gu aranteed
so you're no stranger to multiple dicks in your mouth then?
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so you're no stranger to multiple dicks in your mouth then?
G for P is part of the industry but the only thing I've been inside is some hot figure chicks
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G for P is part of the industry but the only thing I've been inside is some hot figure chicks
oh brother, here we go... ::)
good start at this gimmick.
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I know more than you about the industry..............gu aranteed
oh brother, another industry 'insider' gracing us with their presence ::)
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I know more than you about the industry..............gu aranteed
Hahahaha I bet that makes you the center of attention everywhere you go, seriously you must be a hoot at cocktail parties