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Judging from this, I think she had what was coming to her. Just my opinion ;D
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Her nose is still rather swollen.
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Her nose is still rather swollen.
It kinda is
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I think she had what was coming to her
agreed! she deserved that.
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look that fucking shnoz!!
:o
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typical snot nosed douche of a kid these days... I am not rooting for any particular side here, they are all shitbags in my book
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that cop will end up getting blown away within the next couple years,cops like that always get killed or kicked off the force,i could see if it was a 250lb drunk violent guy trying to punch at the cop,but a little broad?thats was way out of line imo
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shes a fucking scumbag and so is the cop.
It's only a matter of time before that cop and titus are sharing a cell and the cop will be getting his ass stretched on a daily basis.
:-X :-X
;D
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typical snot nosed douche of a kid these days... I am not rooting for any particular side here, they are all shitbags in my book
Agreed
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anyone surprised that she isn't white?
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anyone surprised that she isn't white?
Anyone not surprised the cop is? ::)
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Anyone not surprised the cop is? ::)
No, black cops don't beat people.
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No, black cops don't beat people.
Exactly.
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Oooh, it's a girl, we should just let them do what the fuck they want. ::)
Did you notice she lied about the shoe hitting the police officer?
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Oooh, it's a girl, we should just let them do what the fuck they want. ::)
Did you notice she lied about the shoe hitting the police officer?
Yup, and i bet that was not the only thing she lied about.
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Maybe they should just get together and fuck sometime.
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Maybe they should just get together and fuck sometime.
make up sex
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Exactly.
lol!
Im im not to damn lazy I would link a few black cops beating on black, "to prove they are not like them" like the victims said ;D
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make up sex
LMAO
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Anyone not surprised the cop is? ::)
Anyone surprised the carjacker is....? Anyone surprised she was a mouthy ghetto chick?
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I think the cop is fucked :-\ Probably will end up in prison for a while. A cop in prison will have a rough ride (excuse the pun) :P
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Exactly.
They just get caught up in a internal drug sting and corruption.
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Yes indeed, American society is pretty fucked up and I'm glad that I don't live there. Next.
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Maybe if Pops had pwned her the other times she "borrowed Mom's car without permission"? 'Course then there's no settlement ...
It's official: no victims here.
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Oooh, it's a girl, we should just let them do what the fuck they want. ::)
Did you notice she lied about the shoe hitting the police officer?
The proper thing for the cop to do would have been to close and lock the door, then add additional charges to her for kicking the shoe. Instead, the meathead decided he was going to beat her up. Sorry, cops have no right to issue out punnishment, that's the judge's job.
Cop needs to be fired and charged.
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The proper thing for the cop to do would have been to close and lock the door, then add additional charges to her for kicking the shoe. Instead, the meathead decided he was going to beat her up. Sorry, cops have no right to issue out punnishment, that's the judge's job.
Cop needs to be fired and charged.
agreed.
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This topic is irrelevant. Would you hit it? ;D
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agreed.
x2.
Still, no victims.
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I wonder if he yelled "I'm Chris Brown!!!" as he did it?
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Why are these cops so stupid.I grew up with alot of the cops in my town.they just turn off the video.
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Bitches ain't shit but ho's and tricks.
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"Fuckin' with the man gonna get you manhandled." - Mystikal
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"Fuckin' with the man gonna get you manhandled." - Mystikal
How's it going Gare? Don't let your CO catch you looking at a men in thongs thread.
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How's it going Gare? Don't let your CO catch you looking at a men in thongs thread.
It's going good. Still have about a month and a half and I won't waste any of it working.
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It's going good. Still have about a month and a half and I won't waste any of it working.
Haha, that's the spirit! Be sure to get everyone talking in Getbig lingo before you're out of there. Be hilarious to see a vid from the frontlines filled with 'monster oh brothers' and 'epic shut your cockholsters.'
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At 1:38 "Technically, we didn't steal the car. We were just borrowing my friend's mom's car without permission."
That's called stealing you stupid bitch! ::)
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I think the cop is fucked :-\ Probably will end up in prison for a while. A cop in prison will have a rough ride (excuse the pun) :P
Hope that son of a bitch enjoys his stay.
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It's going good. Still have about a month and a half and I won't waste any of it working.
how many pillows are you biting through per week?
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I think the cop is fucked :-\ Probably will end up in prison for a while. A cop in prison will have a rough ride (excuse the pun) :P
This pig has a horseshoe up his ass, he was already investiagted twice, once for murdering somebody and second for excessive use of force. The government needs to stop babying these retards and fucking lock them up already, it's idiots like this that make all cops look bad.
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Its not the cops job to administer justice to you freaks that say she deserved
punching in the back of the head while on the ground.
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Its not the cops job to administer justice to you freaks that say she deserved
punching in the back of the head while on the ground.
Yeah that was totally uncalled for and uneccesary power tripping, that piece of shit should be beaten by a mob. The girl is 15 and 100lbs. not 250lb. juicehead, for fuck's sake.
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how many pillows are you biting through per week?
Typical Getbigger. No questions about if there's a gym, how's the chow, etc, just wants to talk about ass fucking.
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He should be given a prize,that dumb theiving half-caste wont fuck with anyone again in a hurry,she been thought sum respect
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He should be given a prize,that dumb theiving half-caste wont fuck with anyone again in a hurry,she been thought sum respect
yes he was quite manly beating up on a 15 year old girl. ::)
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Fuck her,anybody who disrespects a cop should get that treatment,it might teach blacks not to steal
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Fuck her,anybody who disrespects a cop should get that treatment,it might teach blacks not to steal
::) oh brother, do you beat your wife when she burns dinner?
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No
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::) oh brother, do you beat your wife when she burns dinner?
My uncle cooks all my meals
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no doubt the bitch was mouthing off the whole time, she got what her passive parents should have given her a loooong time ago...a good whoopin. maybe then she would have thought twice about taking the car. this beating was probably long overdue for her...i can just feel the aura of karma and the balance of the universe being restored watching her get tossed and catching some fists. dumb bitch probably doesnt feel so invincible any more.
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It's hard to defend her, but no one should do that to a kid. She may deserve it but there is no excuse for that type of reaction. Some discretion should have been used.
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well, that cop was also in trouble for killing a motorist. he was found not guilty in self defense
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Anyone surprised the carjacker is....? Anyone surprised she was a mouthy ghetto chick?
COP= Punk Bitch
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Not condoning what the cop did, but it's probably the best thing that could have happened to her. She'll probably sue and get a decent settlement, media exposure, a free pass on the crime, sympathy etc..
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In watching the video, it appears he strikes her in the back of the shoulder in order to cuff her. When a person is resisting police are trained to hit the joint or nerve area to weaken the resistance. If thats the case, things are completely different. If he was striking her in the back of the head (which is not probably after seeing the video) then it is clearly unacceptible.
Looks like the officer was overly aggressive but its not as bad as it looks because of the above information. Mouthy combative people like this get delt with physically. What happened to Rodney King was completely unacceptible, this case is nothing like that. I think this officer needs to be reprimanded but nothing else. If there is a prior record of over aggression then more. The girl was resisting, provoked the incident and likely would have fought the officer more if she could, he prevented any escalation by his aggressive tactics. If he used gentler tactics it probably would have just given her more opportunity to fight.
We have to punish (and remove) police officers who beat citizens but give them some leeway in physical situations where there is a combative person. Lots of tees have no respect for authority these days.
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Any man that has to strike a 15 year old girl for any reason is a
fucking homo loser, and should have his ass severely kicked.
Especially a Police officer.
Oh he was afraid of a fucking shoe?
Give me a break, he probably beats his wife too.
LOSER!
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In all honestly, does anybody really give two shits? A lot of the same people on here saying that Rihanna skank got what she deserved, and defending Chris Brown, are trashing this cop.
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In all honestly, does anybody really give two shits? A lot of the same people on here saying that Rihanna skank got what she deserved, and defending Chris Brown, are trashing this cop.
maybe the kid gave the cop herpes?
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maybe the kid gave the cop herpes?
haha, yes mass. Then all bets are off!
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Her nose is still rather swollen.
i think thats the way she was born :-[
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that cop will end up getting blown away within the next couple years,cops like that always get killed or kicked off the force
Funny how that works out, but it's true. It will catch up in one way or another. Those same rules apply when in the service also. You will get dealt with one way or another eventually.
showed no discipline in the face of stupidity at all. there are cops out there who would have said "that's fine..now kick off the other one" then just slammed the door in her face and tried to bury her within the system or something to make it understood.....instead he chose to take the lower road.
weak
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In watching the video, it appears he strikes her in the back of the shoulder in order to cuff her. When a person is resisting police are trained to hit the joint or nerve area to weaken the resistance. If thats the case, things are completely different. If he was striking her in the back of the head (which is not probably after seeing the video) then it is clearly unacceptible.
Looks like the officer was overly aggressive but its not as bad as it looks because of the above information. Mouthy combative people like this get delt with physically. What happened to Rodney King was completely unacceptible, this case is nothing like that. I think this officer needs to be reprimanded but nothing else. If there is a prior record of over aggression then more. The girl was resisting, provoked the incident and likely would have fought the officer more if she could, he prevented any escalation by his aggressive tactics. If he used gentler tactics it probably would have just given her more opportunity to fight.
We have to punish (and remove) police officers who beat citizens but give them some leeway in physical situations where there is a combative person. Lots of tees have no respect for authority these days.
FYI... unacceptable
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Not condoning what the cop did, but it's probably the best thing that could have happened to her. She'll probably sue and get a decent settlement, media exposure, a free pass on the crime, sympathy etc..
And so she doesn't learn anything. Some people never learn.
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She got what she deserved. you don't kick your shoes at a cop. she's a fucking half breed piece of shit who found out what the real world is like. The police should be commended for knocking some sense into her. I'm willing to bet she never steals another car.
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A bitch that ugly I'm sure she deserved it.
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maybe she should move back to Africa.
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In watching the video, it appears he strikes her in the back of the shoulder in order to cuff her. When a person is resisting police are trained to hit the joint or nerve area to weaken the resistance. If thats the case, things are completely different. If he was striking her in the back of the head (which is not probably after seeing the video) then it is clearly unacceptible.
Looks like the officer was overly aggressive but its not as bad as it looks because of the above information.
Look at the video again.. SHE WAS ALREADY IN A FUCCKING HOLDING CELL. There was no reason to "cuff her" at all. All the meathead had to do was close the door and lock it. He went in for the purpose of exacting revenge for the shoe kick, period.
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Look at the video again.. SHE WAS ALREADY IN A FUCCKING HOLDING CELL. There was no reason to "cuff her" at all. All the meathead had to do was close the door and lock it. He went in for the purpose of exacting revenge for the shoe kick, period.
he went in cause he doesnt give a fuck what the age or gender of someone is....people get what's coming to them! im glad to know the people that serve and protect me DONT FUCKIN PLAY. bitch stole a car, gave attitude, furthered that attitude with a shoe kick, and it all climaxes with her shook to shit. happy ending.
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Like I said...I cant wait to be a cop.
Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely!!!
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bad cop, no donut. >:(
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The guys a pussy plain and simple. The amount of force depends on the SIZE of the person. That was a little girl he man handled. I'd be a different story if it were a man 6'2" 250lbs, bet you that..He would have thought twice before rushin' that cell...
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he slammed her head hard enough against the wall it could have split her skull. you are a fuck.
truth.
the little bitch get him lip. so what? be a man.
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this is amazing! i've just read three pages on this board and I agree with every post!
btw, black cops lay whoop ass. just ask Vince G
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There are no black cops. There are no white cops. There is only blue.
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The pigs can kill your mom, and there's nothing you can do about it. ;D ;D Nothing.
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that cop prolly got his ass kicked by dudes from getbig when he was younger,now hes a cop and wants to take all that pent up aggression from being a punk out on the world.sad but true.my brother in law is a police seargent in north jersey,every christmas he gets drunk and starts taking out his gun showing it to everyone and im like wtf bro,theres little kids in the house bro,hes like its not loaded bro,but i tell him this is a day of peace and happiness and flashing a gun around just doesnt fit into that category imo.then he takes out his night stick and starts telling me to let him put me in a hold with his night stick,i tell him no bro just relax,he insists cause hes piss drunk,so to make a long story short i always break his hold cause hes drunk and then he tries to wrestle me to the ground,i end up choking him out and my sister whos married to him gets pissed at me and tells me to leave,i never leave though cause its at my parents house.everyone agrees that hes the one who starts the bullshit every year,i just want to relax at christmas man and enjoy be with family and friends,not worry about getting accidentilly shot cause of a over aggressive drunk police seargent,lol.one year he took out his gun and started making threats towards me in a way he felt was funny after i choked him out,but i didnt think it was funny at all.i told him its not appropiate for 2 grown men 2 be doing combat around a christmas tree with all your relatives around,lol.he does the same thing every year,i just found out he has like 8 or 9 situations with internal affairs for excessive force issues on motorists,gee why aint i suprised,lol
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that cop prolly got his ass kicked by dudes from getbig when he was younger,now hes a cop and wants to take all that pent up aggression from being a punk out on the world.sad but true.my brother in law is a police seargent in north jersey,every christmas he gets drunk and starts taking out his gun showing it to everyone and im like wtf bro,theres little kids in the house bro,hes like its not loaded bro,but i tell him this is a day of peace and happiness and flashing a gun around just doesnt fit into that category imo.then he takes out his night stick and starts telling me to let him put me in a hold with his night stick,i tell him no bro just relax,he insists cause hes piss drunk,so to make a long story short i always break his hold cause hes drunk and then he tries to wrestle me to the ground,i end up choking him out and my sister whos married to him gets pissed at me and tells me to leave,i never leave though cause its at my parents house.everyone agrees that hes the one who starts the bullshit every year,i just want to relax at christmas man and enjoy be with family and friends,not worry about getting accidentilly shot cause of a over aggressive drunk police seargent,lol.one year he took out his gun and started making threats towards me in a way he felt was funny after i choked him out,but i didnt think it was funny at all.i told him its not appropiate for 2 grown men 2 be doing combat around a christmas tree with all your relatives around,lol.he does the same thing every year,i just found out he has like 8 or 9 situations with internal affairs for excessive force issues on motorists,gee why aint i suprised,lol
lol damn
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that cop prolly got his ass kicked by dudes from getbig when he was younger,now hes a cop and wants to take all that pent up aggression from being a punk out on the world.sad but true.my brother in law is a police seargent in north jersey,every christmas he gets drunk and starts taking out his gun showing it to everyone and im like wtf bro,theres little kids in the house bro,hes like its not loaded bro,but i tell him this is a day of peace and happiness and flashing a gun around just doesnt fit into that category imo.then he takes out his night stick and starts telling me to let him put me in a hold with his night stick,i tell him no bro just relax,he insists cause hes piss drunk,so to make a long story short i always break his hold cause hes drunk and then he tries to wrestle me to the ground,i end up choking him out and my sister whos married to him gets pissed at me and tells me to leave,i never leave though cause its at my parents house.everyone agrees that hes the one who starts the bullshit every year,i just want to relax at christmas man and enjoy be with family and friends,not worry about getting accidentilly shot cause of a over aggressive drunk police seargent,lol.one year he took out his gun and started making threats towards me in a way he felt was funny after i choked him out,but i didnt think it was funny at all.i told him its not appropiate for 2 grown men 2 be doing combat around a christmas tree with all your relatives around,lol.he does the same thing every year,i just found out he has like 8 or 9 situations with internal affairs for excessive force issues on motorists,gee why aint i suprised,lol
looks like you have some serious issues, graciebj.
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The pigs can kill your mom, and there's nothing you can do about it. ;D ;D Nothing.
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looks like you have some serious issues, graciebj.
haha DK. I think ole gracie might have a bit of an issue with the ole fuzz.
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that pic gives me a raging boner
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;D ;D hahaha I love that picture. The big cat is giving the little dog the stink eye. So F-ing funny. Thanks HT.
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if that ws my daughter thats cops daughter would be dead right now
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Anyone surprised the carjacker is....? Anyone surprised she was a mouthy ghetto chick?
Carjacker? ::) And what makes you say she was a ghetto chick? psst - your prejudices are showing
Did either her or her father sound like they were from a ghetto. Her father sounded pretty well spoken to me.
She was a kid who along with her friend, took her friend's Mother's car without permission.
There was no carjacking. She did a stupid thing... the same stupid thing I did when I was a teen.
I took my mom's car out for a drive without permission. My mom looked out the window, just in time to see her car going down the street and immediately reported it stolen. (She just didn't know I was the one driving it) :P
I got pulled over by what at the time looked like six of the biggest cops I'd ever seen in my life. ;D
I quickly explained to the officers: "The car isn't stolen, ...it's my mom's"
The office radio's it in, ...and I hear the dispatcher who is still on the phone with my mother saying:
"The victim says her daughter is at home in bed" {gulp} So now I sheepishly tell the officer:
"Tell her to go look in my bedrooom", who relayed it to the dispatcher, who then passed it on to my mom.
Mom checks my bedroom, ...and guess who's no there? ;D
At the time, I didn't even have a driver's license, ...so a cop car had to be dispatched to my house to pick up my mother to drive her to the location, so she could drive the car back. It was either that or call a tow truck.
Man was my mother ever royally pissed off! Hilariously, not so much for my having taken the car,
...but because there was the possibility that the neighbours might've seen her having to get into a police car. ;D
There is no excuse for that kind of an assault on a 15 year old child. I don't care how lippy she was.
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Carjacker? ::) And what makes you say she was a ghetto chick? psst - your prejudices are showing
Did either her or her father sound like they were from a ghetto. Her father sounded pretty well spoken to me.
She was a kid who along with her friend, took her friend's Mother's car without permission.
There was no carjacking. She did a stupid thing... the same stupid thing I did when I was a teen.
I took my mom's car out for a drive without permission. My mom looked out the window, just in time to see her car going down the street and immediately reported it stolen. (She just didn't know I was the one driving it) :P
I got pulled over by what at the time looked like six of the biggest cops I'd ever seen in my life. ;D
I quickly explained to the officers: "The car isn't stolen, ...it's my mom's"
The office radio's it in, ...and I hear the dispatcher who is still on the phone with my mother saying:
"The victim says her daughter is at home in bed" {gulp} So now I sheepishly tell the officer:
"Tell her to go look in my bedrooom", who relayed it to the dispatcher, who then passed it on to my mom.
Mom checks my bedroom, ...and guess who's no there? ;D
At the time, I didn't even have a driver's license, ...so a cop car had to be dispatched to my house to pick up my mother to drive her to the location, so she could drive the car back. It was either that or call a tow truck.
Man was my mother ever royally pissed off! Hilariously, not so much for my having taken the car,
...but because there was the possibility that the neighbours might've seen her having to get into a police car. ;D
There is no excuse for that kind of an assault on a 15 year old child. I don't care how lippy she was.
ghetto people usually put on an intellectual act when on the news or public speaking. its quite deceitful.
i also took my moms car out when i was younger with no license and got pulled over by the cops right by my house, so luckily they did not find it necessary to arrest me. but thats neither here nor there. the point is, the bitch definitely had a foul mouth and got some pretty direct and effective punishment. if "assaults" like this didnt stir up such a wave of controversy among our wishy washy society then bitches like these would think twice before running their mouths.
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ghetto people usually put on an intellectual act when on the news or public speaking. its quite deceitful.
i also took my moms car out when i was younger with no license and got pulled over by the cops right by my house, so luckily they did not find it necessary to arrest me. but thats neither here nor there. the point is, the bitch definitely had a foul mouth and got some pretty direct and effective punishment. if "assaults" like this didnt stir up such a wave of controversy among our wishy washy society then bitches like these would think twice before running their mouths.
The only foul mouth I've heard so far, ...is YOURS. :-[
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Carjacker? ::) And what makes you say she was a ghetto chick? psst - your prejudices are showing
Did either her or her father sound like they were from a ghetto. Her father sounded pretty well spoken to me.
She was a kid who along with her friend, took her friend's Mother's car without permission.
There was no carjacking. She did a stupid thing... the same stupid thing I did when I was a teen.
I took my mom's car out for a drive without permission. My mom looked out the window, just in time to see her car going down the street and immediately reported it stolen. (She just didn't know I was the one driving it) :P
I got pulled over by what at the time looked like six of the biggest cops I'd ever seen in my life. ;D
I quickly explained to the officers: "The car isn't stolen, ...it's my mom's"
The office radio's it in, ...and I hear the dispatcher who is still on the phone with my mother saying:
"The victim says her daughter is at home in bed" {gulp} So now I sheepishly tell the officer:
"Tell her to go look in my bedrooom", who relayed it to the dispatcher, who then passed it on to my mom.
Mom checks my bedroom, ...and guess who's no there? ;D
At the time, I didn't even have a driver's license, ...so a cop car had to be dispatched to my house to pick up my mother to drive her to the location, so she could drive the car back. It was either that or call a tow truck.
Man was my mother ever royally pissed off! Hilariously, not so much for my having taken the car,
...but because there was the possibility that the neighbours might've seen her having to get into a police car. ;D
There is no excuse for that kind of an assault on a 15 year old child. I don't care how lippy she was.
Correction...you STOLE your mother's car. Taking without permission is stealing. This 15 year old chick stole a vehicle and was arrested accordingly.
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The pigs can kill your mom, and there's nothing you can do about it. ;D ;D Nothing.
One of the reasons why cops get shot...and then people are bo-hooing. I've seen cops get pop for domestic (the woman was beaten like a rag doll) and they get a 6 figure bond, they post it right away fearing they don't get thrown in Gen Pop, you see who really has the power
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Correction...you STOLE your mother's car. Taking without permission is stealing. This 15 year old chick stole a vehicle and was arrested accordingly.
exactly right, just b/c it was your mom or her friends mom doesnt mean its not stealing jag...the dude definitly over reacted and shouldnt not be on the street imo i would be ok with him behind a desk or security or something. That being said the girl is a little shit and did intentionally flip her shoe at him which it did hit him and she lied about.
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Correction...you STOLE your mother's car. Taking without permission is stealing. This 15 year old chick stole a vehicle and was arrested accordingly.
If that's what you want to call it, ...I won't quibble. I used the phrase I used to differentiate between someone whose intent it is to permanently deprive the owner of the vehicle (ie: selling it to a chop shop) and someone who is temporarily using the vehicle without the knowledge of the owner with every intent to return the vehicle in the same condition. PS: Do we know the 15 yr old stole the vehicle, ...or was she simply along for the ride? And do we know that she was aware her friend didn't have permission to take the car. It's quite possible she didn't know. Then again, it's possible she did know and was fully complicitous. The point is WE don't know. All we've seen so far is a law enforcement officer abusing a child. There is no justification for what he did. Now he may lose his job, ...he's engendered hatred and animosity in another, if not multiple members of the community, and made the profession of his colleagues that much harder, and a little more dangerous, ...for what... to dominate a child? What a winner! ::)
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the cops an arsehole but how can you borrow a car at 15? license?
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If that's what you want to call it, ...I won't quibble. I used the phrase I used to differentiate between someone whose intent it is to permanently deprive the owner of the vehicle (ie: selling it to a chop shop) and someone who is temporarily using the vehicle without the knowledge of the owner with every intent to return the vehicle in the same condition. PS: Do we know the 15 yr old stole the vehicle, ...or was she simply along for the ride? And do we know that she was aware her friend didn't have permission to take the car. It's quite possible she didn't know. Then again, it's possible she did know and was fully complicitous. The point is WE don't know. All we've seen so far is a law enforcement officer abusing a child. There is no justification for what he did. Now he may lose his job, ...he's engendered hatred and animosity in another, if not multiple members of the community, and made the profession of his colleagues that much harder, and a little more dangerous, ...for what... to dominate a child? What a winner! ::)
LOL its still stealing jag, hahah ok ill go take my neighbors car without permission but dont worry ill bring it back sooner or later. ::) your arguement is just plain silly. The car was stolen plain and simple watch the video and she will say that they where borrowing the car without permission which means she knew they where stealing. LOL I LOVE HOW YOU ASSUME THAT HE MAY HAVE VIOLATED OTHERS IN THIS WAY BUT TRY TO ARGUE THAT SHE MAY HAVE NOT KNOWN IT WAS A STOLEN CAR...FUKING NICE. I agree that he shouldnt be on the streets again that being said the little shit that is the girl is not innocent in this matter.
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the cops an arsehole but how can you borrow a car at 15? license?
She was 15. How old was her friend...16, 17, 18 perhaps? Do we even know this?
When I was a kid, my boyfriend at the time would take whatever car was most convenient to get out of the driveway. Between his 3 cars, his Dad's 2 cars, and older brothers car, and his little brother's 2 cars, his little sister's car, ...there were 9 vehicles in his household. He just took whatever one was at the end of the drive. They all did.
If you walk outside you house and see your vehicle is not there, the first thought is :o 'it must've been stolen', ...and you call the police. I once walked out of the Manulife Shopping Centre only to find that my vehicle wasn't there. I called the cops. Turns out it was towed. Did the tow truck driver STEAL my car? By MrDumpling's definition, ...he did. I prefer not to view it from that same perspective.
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She was 15. How old was her friend...16, 17, 18 perhaps? Do we even know this?
When I was a kid, my boyfriend at the time woud take whatever car was most convenient to get out of the driveway. Between him 3 cars, his Dad's 2 cars, and older brothers car, and his little brother's 2 cars, his little sister's car, ...there were 9 vehicles in his household. He just took whatever one was at the end of the drive. They all did.
If you walk outside you house and see your vehicle is not there, the first thought is :o 'it must've been stolen', ...and you call the police. I once walked out of the Manulife Shopping Centre only to find that my vehicle wasn't there. I called the cops. Turns out it was towed. Did the tow truck driver STEAL my car? By MrDumpling's definition, ...he did. I prefer not to view it from that same perspective.
LOL geez lafukingwezz jag your argueing an assinine point darling...first off her being 15 has nothing to do with stealing, 15 yr olds can steal same as a 89 yr old. I dont know why you went off on a tangent with your old boyfriends story ??? If you where breaking the law or posted signs and got towed then NO they did not steal your car. FACT IS THEY STOLE THE CAR PLAIN AND SIMPLE the fact it was her mothers doesnt change the fact it was stolen.
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LOL its still stealing jag, hahah ok ill go take my neighbors car without permission but dont worry ill bring it back sooner or later. ::) your arguement is just plain silly.
I stipulated I wasn't going to quibble over semantics.
The car was stolen plain and simple watch the video and she will say that they where borrowing the car without permission which means she knew they where stealing.
She was explaining the events AFTER the fact. If she didn't know her friend didn't have permission to take the car at the time, her subsequent arrest could have cleared up any misperceptions of what had taken place. She may now be fully aware of facts that she may not have been at the time. Like I said, she was explaining after the fact.
LOL I LOVE HOW YOU ASSUME THAT HE MAY HAVE VIOLATED OTHERS IN THIS WAY BUT TRY TO ARGUE THAT SHE MAY HAVE NOT KNOWN IT WAS A STOLEN CAR...FUKING NICE. I agree that he shouldnt be on the streets again that being said the little shit that is the girl is not innocent in this matter.
Whether she is innocent or not, does not negate the fact that she did not deserve what was done to her.
I did not assume he may have violated others. What I said was that he has engendered hatred and animosity within the community. If you think that citizens are content with having police officers who deem it necessary to abuse children this way think again. GetBig is an aberrant microcosm. Out in the real world, attitudes are not quite as callous or insensitive. It's experiences like hers that lead to officers getting shot while trying to write out a routine traffic ticket. Someone like her says "I won't go through that again"... or others who witness this say "It's not going to happen to me a first time". And Pow... a hard working honest cop is leaving his/her spouse to go it alone, and a kid is left without a mother or father. :'(
It's a stupid, and completely unecessary cycle of hatred, mistrust, and violence that need not take place. You can laugh at it all you want, ...trust me when I tell you, there are more people crying than laughing... and for good reason.
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LOL geez lafukingwezz jag your argueing an assinine point darling...first off her being 15 has nothing to do with stealing, 15 yr olds can steal same as a 89 yr old. I dont know why you went off on a tangent with your old boyfriends story ??? If you where breaking the law or posted signs and got towed then NO they did not steal your car. FACT IS THEY STOLE THE CAR PLAIN AND SIMPLE the fact it was her mothers doesnt change the fact it was stolen.
You brought out her age under the premise that at 15 she wouldn't have a valid license.
my point is that though she may not have had a valid license, her friend might have.
She might have frequently driven with her friend in the mom's car, ...and would not think anything out of the ordinary to go out with her friend in that same vehicle. That was the point i was making. I'm not arguing that this was the case, I'm simply saying we have heard nothing about the circumstances under which the car was taken other than they did not have permission. And she is being called a "carjacker". Oh puleaze!
And how can you say the tow truck did not STEAL my car, ...then extort payment for it's safe return?
They did not have permission to take my car. I did not want it towed. I didn't tell them to tow it.
The police told them to take it. The car did not belong to the police, ...it belonged to me.
Therefore, the police were complicitous both in it's theft and the subsequent extortion. :D
They're running a bloody RICO racket! :D
My point being, ...if by chance he happened to have taken one of the vehicles from his household that wasn't his, ...and if his brother didn't assume he'd taken it, they might have reported it stolen. And by your strict definition, taking a vehicle that doesn't belong to you is stealing. Let's at least be a little consistent here.
And while we're being consistent, ...let's be accurate. The vehicle was not her mother's, ...it was her friend's mother's
Do we even know whether the charges were followed through? Were theft charges pressed?
Did the owner of the vehicle say...oh my kid took the car, ....oh ok. Don't charge them with grand theft auto, ...it was a misunderstanding. We haven't heard about that have we? All we have heard is that a law enforcement officer abused a 15 year old child without justification. THAT is the issue. We are all in agreement that she acted inappropriately, however, there is no justification for what occurred, ...at least none that I have seen.
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I stipulated I wasn't going to quibble over semantics.
She was explaining the events AFTER the fact. If she didn't know her friend didn't have permission to take the car at the time, her subsequent arrest could have cleared up any misperceptions of what had taken place. She may now be fully aware of facts that she may not have been at the time. Like I said, she was explaining after the fact.
Whether she is innocent or not, does not negate the fact that she did not deserve what was done to her.
I did not assume he may have violated others. What I said was that he has engendered hatred and animosity within the community. If you think that citizens are content with having police officers who deem it necessary to abuse children this way think again. GetBig is an abberant microcosm. Out in the real world, attitudes are not quite as callous or insensitive. It's experiences like hers that lead to officers getting shot while trying to write out a routine traffic ticket. Someone like her says "I won't go through that again"... or others who witness this say "It's not going to happen to me a first time". And Pow... a hard working honest cop is leaving his/her spouse to go it alone, and a kid is left without a mother or father. :'(
It's a stupid, and completely unecessary cycle of hatred, mistrust, and violence that need not take place. You can laugh at it all you want, ...trust me when I tell you, there are more people crying than laughing... and for good reason.
there arent semantics to quibble over, SHE STOLE...if she didnt know that the car was stolen dont you think she would have made that clear instead of insinuating that they did know which is what she did.
I apologize you did not say that i misread your statement. LOL i wouldnt say she didnt deserve it b/c she most certainly did but it wasnt right and like I said he shouldnt be on the streets. I disagree with your idea that this will lead to more police officers getting killed an normal civilian who simply gets pulled over for a traffic ticket isnt going to start capping police simply b/c they saw this video.
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How can you say the tow truck did not STEAL my car, ...then extort payment for it's safe return?
They did not have permission to take my car. I did not want it towed. I didn't tell them to tow it.
The police told them to take it. The car did not belong to the police, ...it belonged to me.
Therefore, the police were complicitous both in it's theft and the subsequent extortion. :D
My point being, ...if by chance he happened to have taken one of the vehicles from his household that wasn't his, ...and if his brother didn't assume he'd taken it, they might have reported it stolen. And by your strict definition, taking a vehicle that doesn't belong to you is stealing. Let's at least be a little consistent here.
And while we're being consistent, ...let's be accurate. The vehicle was not her mother's, ...it was her friend's mother's
Do we even know whether the charges were followed through? Were theft charges pressed?
Did the owner of the vehicle say...oh my kid took the car, ....oh ok. Don't charge them with grand theft auto, ...it was a misunderstanding. We haven't heard about that have we? All we have heard is that a law enforcement officer abused a 15 year old child without justification. THAT is the issue. We are all in agreement that she acted inappropriately, however, there is no justification for what occurred, ...at least none that I have seen.
b/c you broke the law NUMB NUT by your logic police arresting you is tant amount to kidnapping ::) again geez lafukingwezzz
no stealing is not taking a vehicle that doesnt belong to you stealing is taking property that doesnt belong to you WITHOUT PERMISSION. It seems to me that your old boyfriends family had an agreement that you take whatever car is available I.E. an AGREEMENT
Her friends mother or her friends grandmothers sisters long lost brother in law it doesnt CHANGE THE FACT THAT THE CAR WAS STOLEN.
Im pretty sure at that point its the cops judgement on whether or not to take them in im sure charges could be dropped later on but if the cops want to take you in then im thinking its their decision at that moment. Ive agreed with you on the last point but your ignorant stance that she didnt do anything wrong or that they where simply borrowing the car is ignorant. Like I said earlier did she deserve it fuk ya she did, was it right no but that doesnt change the fact her and her friend stole the car.
Definition of steal: To take (the property of another) without right or permission.
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/steal
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there arent semantics to quibble over, SHE STOLE...if she didnt know that the car was stolen dont you think she would have made that clear instead of insinuating that they did know which is what she did.
I apologize you did not say that i misread your statement. LOL i wouldnt say she didnt deserve it b/c she most certainly did but it wasnt right and like I said he shouldnt be on the streets. I disagree with your idea that this will lead to more police officers getting killed an normal civilian who simply gets pulled over for a traffic ticket isnt going to start capping police simply b/c they saw this video.
It's not the "normal" citizens the police have to be worrying about, ...it's the abnormal ones,
...the ones on the borderline who might have otherwise said "$#|t, and hoped they just got a ticket or warning for the broken tail light, all the while praying they don't run his/her record, and discover unpaid tickets or some other such stuff for which they can be hauled off for. Those are the ones who will decide not to take a chance.
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It's not the "normal" citizens the police have to be worrying about, ...it's the abnormal ones,
...the ones on the borderline who might have otherwise said "$#|t, and hoped they just got a ticket or warning for the broken tail light, all the while praying they don't run his/her record, and discover unpaid tickets or some other such stuff for which they can be hauled off for. Those are the ones who will decide not to take a chance.
then those folks would have done it either way the fact that this happend has no bearing on that situation.
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b/c you broke the law NUMB NUT by your logic police arresting you is tant amount to kidnapping ::) again geez lafukingwezzz
Actually, I didn't break a law. I contravened a by-law. Completely different thing. ;)
And our Provincial Supreme Court has ruled that when a vehicle is towed away from private property, the towing cost must be borne by the owner of that property, and any tow facility in possession of the vehicle may charge for the hookup fees, but they MUST return the vehicle ON DEMAND, ...and cannot hold it for ransom until such tow fees are paid. They cannot also attached additional storgae fees for additional days in storage as a result of the vehicle owner not having the funds. Any costs associated with the vehicle MUST be borne by the property owner who requested the tow in the first place. If they DO NOT release the vehicle, they are charged with theft!
no stealing is not taking a vehicle that doesnt belong to you stealing is taking property that doesnt belong to you WITHOUT PERMISSION. It seems to me that your old boyfriends family had an agreement that you take whatever car is available I.E. an AGREEMENT
Her friends mother or her friends grandmothers sisters long lost brother in law it doesnt CHANGE THE FACT THAT THE CAR WAS STOLEN.
The ownership of the vehicle is not in dispute or even at issue here, nor the status of the vehicle when taken.
The issue here is the police officers abuse of a 15 year old child. It was not deserved. it is not the officers job to be judge, jury, and executioner. He was completely out of line, personally, professionally, ethically, and morally.
Im pretty sure at that point its the cops judgement on whether or not to take them in im sure charges could be dropped later on but if the cops want to take you in then im thinking its their decision at that moment. Ive agreed with you on the last point but your ignorant stance that she didnt do anything wrong or that they where simply borrowing the car is ignorant. Like I said earlier did she deserve it fuk ya she did, was it right no but that doesnt change the fact her and her friend stole the car.
Definition of steal: To take (the property of another) without right or permission.
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/steal
I didn't say she didn't do anything wrong. I said "We don't know if she did anything wrong when the car was taken", but that is completely irrelevant. Anyway, I got a conference call at 8 pm so I'm going to excuse myself.
Consider the type of society you want to live in, and whether it comes complete with megalomaniacal storm troopers who abuse citizens at will. If a guy is so insecure in his manhood that he feels he has to abuse a little 15 yr. old girl, ...just think what a boost to his self-esteem he'd get from abusing big men with muscles. He might just take a page from the NYPD and bring out the plumber's helper. That would be real swell wouldn't it? ::)
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then those folks would have done it either way the fact that this happend has no bearing on that situation.
I don't know about that. There are plenty of arrests where guns are found in the vehicles.
The prospect of what one can expect after being arrested however, can play a huge determining factor in whether or not one even wants to take that chance. If a night in jail and having to pay a fine is likely, that do-able. If however, a severe beating and a thorough anal probing with a plumber's helping is in store, ...someone may lose their life. Gotta go.
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Actually, I didn't break a law. I contravened a by-law. Completely different thing. ;)
And our Provincial Supreme Court has ruled that when a vehicle is towed away from private property, the towing cost must be borne by the owner of that property, and any tow facility in possession of the vehicle may charge for the hookup fees, but they MUST return the vehicle ON DEMAND, ...and cannot hold it for ransom until such tow fees are paid. They cannot also attached additional storgae fees for additional days in storage as a result of the vehicle owner not having the funds. Any costs associated with the vehicle MUST be borne by the property owner who requested the tow in the first place. If they DO NOT release the vehicle, they are charged with theft!
You just answered your own weird scenario them towing your car is NOT THEFT
The ownership of the vehicle is not in dispute or even at issue here, nor the status of the vehicle when taken.
The issue here is the police officers abuse of a 15 year old child. It was not deserved. it is not the officers job to be judge, jury, and executioner. He was completely out of line, personally, professionally, ethically, and morally.
I didn't say she didn't do anything wrong. I said "We don't know if she did anything wrong when the car was taken", but that is completely irrelevant. Anyway, I got a conference call at 8 pm so I'm going to excuse myself.
Consider the type of society you want to live in, and whether it comes complete with megalomaniacal storm troopers who abuse citizens at will. If a guy is so insecure in his manhood that he feels he has to abuse a little 15 yr. old girl, ...just think what a boost to his self-esteem he'd get from abusing big men with muscles. He might just take a page from the NYPD and bring out the plumber's helper. That would be real swell wouldn't it? ::)
I already agreed with you did you not read that statement ive made like 3 times? Again whether or not she deserved it is another issue I personally believe the little shit did, NOW was it right? NO, should he still be allowed to patrol the streets? NO
You smart off to a police officer then kick your shoe at them and you deserve a little ass beating, is it right no but was it deserved fuk ya it was.
I don't know about that. There are plenty of arrests where guns are found in the vehicles.
The prospect of what one can expect after being arrested however, can play a huge determining factor in whether or not one even wants to take that chance. If a night in jail and having to pay a fine is likely, that do-able. If however, a severe beating and a thorough anal probing with a plumber's helping is in store, ...someone may lose their life. Gotta go.
no law abiding citizen is going to kill a cop over this, to insinuate that is ignorant.
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How many of you sick perverts would have been turned on by the video of the "jail assault" if the "victim" had been 18 and attractive?
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You smart off to a police officer then kick your shoe at them and you deserve a little ass beating, is it right no but was it deserved fuk ya it was.
How can it be deserved but not right at the same time. If it was deserved then it was right.
If it was not right, ...then it was undeserved. Smarting off to a cop is not a crime. Abuse of authority is.
no law abiding citizen is going to kill a cop over this, to insinuate that is ignorant.
In the scenario I previously described, I believe I specifically stipulated my reference was NOT to the average law abiding citizen. However if law enforcement is willing to abuse little girls and law abiding citizens, ...do you think that places them more, or less likely, to be above even more egregious assaults on criminal elements?
Your penchant for baseless leaps of conclusion is remarkable.
Now I know why you call yourself Tony McTones. You are quite the spin doctor. :-\
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Now I know why you call yourself Tony McTones. You are quite the spin doctor. :-\
Lamest insult. EVER.
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Lamest insult. EVER.
I'm just as capable as the next guy of being extremely vicious when I want to be, ...but what for?
We were having a discussion, not a cage match. Get a grip, ...even better... get a life rather than trolling behind me.
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I'm just as capable as the next guy of being extremely vicious when I want to be, ...but what for?
We were having a discussion, not a cage match. Get a grip, ...even better... get a life rather than trolling behind me.
Easy girl. Down. Sit.
Good girl.
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How can it be deserved but not right at the same time. If it was deserved then it was right.
If it was not right, ...then it was undeserved. Smarting off to a cop is not a crime. Abuse of authority is.
In the scenario I previously described, I believe I specifically stipulated my reference was NOT to the average law abiding citizen. However if law enforcement is willing to abuse little girls and law abiding citizens, ...do you think that places them more, or less likely, to be above even more egregious assaults on criminal elements?
Your penchant for baseless leaps of conclusion is remarkable.
Now I know why you call yourself Tony McTones. You are quite the spin doctor. :-\
LOL being right and being deserved are not synonomous with one another...she needed to have her ass beat for backtalking a cop, so i.e. she deserved that ass whooping now was it right for the cop to haul off an beat her ive already agreed NO.
I dont see it happening jag you may think i spin things i think you dramatize the shit out of things. They didnt do this to her simply b/c she was a criminal she was backtalking and flipped her shoes at them. You coperate with the police and generally you are going to be just fine.
ITS TonyMcTones you know like McCain not Tony M.C. tones im not a DJ LOL
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LOL being right and being deserved are not synonomous with one another...she needed to have her ass beat for backtalking a cop, so i.e. she deserved that ass whooping now was it right for the cop to haul off an beat her ive already agreed NO.
Backtalking a cop makes you deserving of an ass beating? :o
Glad I don't live in your world. Even happier you're not a cop in mine. :-\
I dont see it happening jag you may think i spin things i think you dramatize the shit out of things. They didnt do this to her simply b/c she was a criminal she was backtalking and flipped her shoes at them. You coperate with the police and generally you are going to be just fine.
Tell that to Amadou Diallo, ...you remember him? The guy who cooperated on his front porch and got shot 41 times.
15 of which were in his back, some even entering through the soles of his feet. He was given the right to remain silent. He did, ...and got 41 bullets for his troubles. And now he is silent forever.
Then there was this man... Sean Bell. Remember him?
(http://www.feministe.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/seanbell.jpg)
Sean Bell and his two friends were shot 26 times by five NYPD officers, ...on his wedding day. He and his friends (who both survived) were unarmed. They didn’t even realize they were being confronted by plainclothes police officers, as opposed to being carjacked at gunpoint.
All of the police officers got off scot-free. They didn’t even receive a token “reckless endangerment” conviction, perhaps because the presiding judge was of the opinion that “Carelessness is not a crime.” Really? Somehow I thought that’s what reckless endangerment and manslaughter charges were all about. I guess police can’t commit those crimes. If shooting 31 times — including pausing to reload — into a car full of unarmed men doesn’t qualify, I’m not sure what does. I guess you must be of the mindset that if 5 plainclothes cops who don't identify themselves can get away with shooting into a carfull of unarmed people who neither said nor did anything to them, killing one of them is acceptable, ...or that 3 plainclothes cops could gun down a silent man on his own porch, pumping him with 41 bullets, ...or when police in Atlanta can lie to judges in order to obtain no knock warrants, then invade the home of an innocent 80 something yr old grandmother, and gun her down when she attempts to defend herself, ...then beating a lippy 15 year old girl in custody must be too. ::)
ITS TonyMcTones you know like McCain not Tony M.C. tones im not a DJ LOL
You missed your calling then. You should have been a DJ. You spin alot more old broken records than most DJ's.
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Yes darling you back talk a cop who is doing their job correctly for no reason and you need your ass beat.
You pick out one or two incidents to back up your ludicrous claim it doesnt prove shit darling i never said that you never will, i said the majority of the time how many times do they not shoot or beat a person up unwarrented? thats what i thought you are the one spinning shit right now babe.
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Backtalking a cop makes you deserving of an ass beating? :o
Glad I don't live in your world. Even happier you're not a cop in mine. :-\
Tell that to Amadou Diallo, ...you remember him? The guy who cooperated on his front porch and got shot 41 times.
15 of which were in his back, some even entering through the soles of his feet. He was given the right to remain silent. He did, ...and got 41 bullets for his troubles. And now he is silent forever.
Then there was this man... Sean Bell. Remember him?
(http://www.feministe.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/seanbell.jpg)
Sean Bell and his two friends were shot 26 times by five NYPD officers, ...on his wedding day. He and his friends (who both survived) were unarmed. They didn’t even realize they were being confronted by plainclothes police officers, as opposed to being carjacked at gunpoint.
All of the police officers got off scot-free. They didn’t even receive a token “reckless endangerment” conviction, perhaps because the presiding judge was of the opinion that “Carelessness is not a crime.” Really? Somehow I thought that’s what reckless endangerment and manslaughter charges were all about. I guess police can’t commit those crimes. If shooting 31 times — including pausing to reload — into a car full of unarmed men doesn’t qualify, I’m not sure what does. I guess you must be of the mindset that if 5 plainclothes cops who don't identify themselves can get away with shooting into a carfull of unarmed people who neither said nor did anything to them, killing one of them is acceptable, ...or that 3 plainclothes cops could gun down a silent man on his own porch, pumping him with 41 bullets, ...or when police in Atlanta can lie to judges in order to obtain no knock warrants, then invade the home of an innocent 80 something yr old grandmother, and gun her down when she attempts to defend herself, ...then beating a lippy 15 year old girl in custody must be too. ::)
You missed your calling then. You should have been a DJ. You spin alot more old broken records than most DJ's.
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epic feminist website, i see where you get your fire from ::)
brutal lack of recognition for the fact that for every thug that gets shot out of "carelessness", there are numerous cops that are shot by some gang banging thugs just because they don't want to go to jail.
monstrous reference to a biased, detailed, almost as if you were there account of what happened to your pal Sean Bell.
the sad truth is, stories about cops with a wife, kids, and an established middle class living being shot by some scumbag who has been behind bars too many times are just not as popular as stories of a poor innocent 20 year old black guy with a wife and three kids being shot and killed out of "recklessness" on an officer's behalf.
you can bring all the front page worthy news stories over the past x amount of years as much as you want. the truth is, you're engulfed in a society that contains a majority of officers who, for the most part, do their jobs despite various undesirable encounters that would wear many people down over an extended period of time if they were in the same career.
have you ever thought of being a reporter/journalist for liberal media? your ability to spew pure bullshit would be hard to match.
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Yes darling you back talk a cop who is doing their job correctly for no reason and you need your ass beat.
Ah, ...but he clearly was not doing his job correctly. Had he been, ...this incident would never have occurred.
You pick out one or two incidents to back up your ludicrous claim it doesnt prove shit darling i never said that you never will, i said the majority of the time how many times do they not shoot or beat a person up unwarrented? thats what i thought you are the one spinning shit right now babe.
Now you're simply diverting. I never said "the majority of time"... and yes these are one or two incidents.
There are countless more, ...but that isn't the point is it. Just one incident is one incident too many, that endangers both the public and honourable law abiding law enforcement officers everywhere.
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epic feminist website, i see where you get your fire from ::)
{giggle} I never read through the website. I came across it while looking for a specific graphic of Amadou Diallo.
in the process I found many many incidents of police abuse and reckless endangerment, and murder.
brutal lack of recognition for the fact that for every thug that gets shot out of "carelessness", there are numerous cops that are shot by some gang banging thugs just because they don't want to go to jail.
Thank you for further validating the point I was making to TonyMcTones. This type of police abuse such as we've seen in the case of the 15 yr. old girl, is the type of thing that gets good cops dead! If someone is going to do that to a 15 yr old girl in custody, ...what are they going to do to an armed gang banger on the street. This wanton abuse of power further perpetuates a cycle of violence in a group that already has a kill or be killed attitude.
monstrous reference to a biased, detailed, almost as if you were there account of what happened to your pal Sean Bell.
He's not my pal. I've never met the man. Like most I only know of him because he was assassinated by the cops on his wedding day.
the sad truth is, stories about cops with a wife, kids, and an established middle class living being shot by some scumbag who has been behind bars too many times are just not as popular as stories of a poor innocent 20 year old black guy with a wife and three kids being shot and killed out of "recklessness" on an officer's behalf.
Oh, ...well in that case, ...it's perfectly alright to abuse a 15 yr old girl then. ::) {huge sarcasm}
you can bring all the front page worthy news stories over the past x amount of years as much as you want. the truth is, you're engulfed in a society that contains a majority of officers who, for the most part, do their jobs despite various undesirable encounters that would wear many people down over an extended period of time if they were in the same career.
I couldn't agree with you more. All the more reason to get assholes like the cop who abused that 15 year old girl out of uniform before he hurts anymore people, or endangers the life of any more of his colleagues in blue. They have more than enough $#|t to deal with as it is. They don't need malignancies like him making their jobs even harder.
have you ever thought of being a reporter/journalist for liberal media?
No, I've never considered being a reporter/ journalist.
your ability to spew pure bullshit would be hard to match.
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Ya mean like when I blast stupid, assinine, kneejerk, prejudiced, BS arguments theories and conclusions like Tonymctones and others to smithereens. Blow them clear out of the water? feh, ...it's a gift I suppose.
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{giggle} I never read through the website. I came across it while looking for a specific graphic of Amadou Diallo.
in the process I found many many incidents of police abuse and reckless endangerment, and murder.
sure
Thank you for further validating the point I was making to TonyMcTones. This type of police abuse such as we've seen in the case of the 15 yr. old girl, is the type of thing that gets good cops dead! If someone is going to do that to a 15 yr old girl in custody, ...what are they going to do to an armed gang banger on the street. This wanton abuse of power further perpetuates a cycle of violence in a group that already has a kill or be killed attitude.
you assume violence against cops stems from their abuse of power? You think this is why cops are shot at? I think it has more to do with the fact that their job entitles them to contradict and put an end to criminal activities...something that doesn't go over very well with criminals. If every cop was a fuckin saint they would still get laid out by thugs with enough motivation to stay out of jail while maintaining their gang banging lifestyle. I think that if incidents like this one with the 15 year old girl and Sean Bell ceased to exist, there would be less public outcry but an equal amount of cop killing - that's just my opinion, but you cannot argue the fact that it is the duties of a police officer's job (locking up law breakers) which naturally makes them targets of violence.
Oh, ...well in that case, ...it's perfectly alright to abuse a 15 yr old girl then. ::) {huge sarcasm}
well from my perspective, logic tells me she was being a snob so I personally get satisfaction out of watching her catch a whooping. But, unrelated to this incident, my point was that there is more outrage over thugs killed by cops than cops killed by thugs, and it is disappointing.
I couldn't agree with you more. All the more reason to get assholes like the cop who abused that 15 year old girl out of uniform before he hurts anymore people, or endangers the life of any more of his colleagues in blue. They have more than enough $#|t to deal with as it is. They don't need malignancies like him making their jobs even harder.
there is good and bad in every group, and one should not be held accountable for the actions of someone else. if one cop fucks up in someone's eyes, that person should not hold it against all cops. further more, they should not be more prone to KILLING cops because of the actions of a few bad seeds in the group. how can you recognize this cop's actions as a malignancy to all officers, but do not recognize the biased media coverage and unbalanced views towards cop violence vs. street violence as a malignancy as well? You talk about your empathy towards officers who have to deal with negative stigmas because of the actions of this one officer, yet at the same time you fuel this hate with your focused references to Sean Bell and Amadou Diallo, among others.
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Ah, ...but he clearly was not doing his job correctly. Had he been, ...this incident would never have occurred.
Now you're simply diverting. I never said "the majority of time"... and yes these are one or two incidents.
There are countless more, ...but that isn't the point is it. Just one incident is one incident too many, that endangers both the public and honourable law abiding law enforcement officers everywhere.
LOL ::) your simply dont get it before the incident he was doing hes job correctly wasnt he? did she say anything else before that? No she didnt so again you back talk a cop who is doing his job correctly and yes you deserve an ass whooping.
I did say the majority of the time you wont get killed or your ass beat and thats the truth and you know it. Again you can pick isolated cases but that doesnt prove your point simply proves mine.
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Oh my goodness, is this thread still gong on? ok
sure
{giggle} seriously, that was my first encounter with that blog.
you assume violence against cops stems from their abuse of power? You think this is why cops are shot at? I think it has more to do with the fact that their job entitles them to contradict and put an end to criminal activities...something that doesn't go over very well with criminals. If every cop was a fuckin saint they would still get laid out by thugs with enough motivation to stay out of jail while maintaining their gang banging lifestyle. I think that if incidents like this one with the 15 year old girl and Sean Bell ceased to exist, there would be less public outcry but an equal amount of cop killing - that's just my opinion, but you cannot argue the fact that it is the duties of a police officer's job (locking up law breakers) which naturally makes them targets of violence.
I wouldn't think of it, ...however, I believe incidents like a cop beating up a 15 yr old girl, don't make their jobs in the community any easier, ...and it doesn't benefit the community itself.
well from my perspective, logic tells me she was being a snob so I personally get satisfaction out of watching her catch a whooping.
{giggle} Do you get a lot of snobby girls turning you down? Is that where the satisfaction comes from?
Do you see this thug in blue as exacting revenge for you against all the pretty snobby girls who've ever turned you down?
But, unrelated to this incident, my point was that there is more outrage over thugs killed by cops than cops killed by thugs, and it is disappointing.
Can you cite me an example of an incident where there was outrage over a cop killing a thug?
The two examples I used above don't qualify.
there is good and bad in every group, and one should not be held accountable for the actions of someone else. if one cop fucks up in someone's eyes, that person should not hold it against all cops. further more, they should not be more prone to KILLING cops because of the actions of a few bad seeds in the group.
When blasting a mountain or laying railroad tracks, we know a highly volatile substance like glycerin is not supposed to blow up unless it's properly set with a charge, ...however, we're still gonna make sure we pack it properly so it doesn't get jostled along the way while transporting it to the blast site don't we? I agree that an entire force should not be painted with the same brush as a result of the actions of a few, ...but we don't live in a perfect world, we live in the real world, and in the real world, people lack the discernment to differentiate between the two. With that realization in mind, it is a detriment to his fellow officers to conduct himself that way. My post within this thread is not an indictment of law enforcment, it's an indictment of the officer in question.
how can you recognize this cop's actions as a malignancy to all officers, but do not recognize the biased media coverage and unbalanced views towards cop violence vs. street violence as a malignancy as well?
I don't believe I did. Street violence isn't the issue here, the cops actions against this girl are.
You talk about your empathy towards officers who have to deal with negative stigmas because of the actions of this one officer, yet at the same time you fuel this hate with your focused references to Sean Bell and Amadou Diallo, among others.
You do have a point. Perhaps Sean Bell and Amadou Diallo were poor examples.
Those officers made mistakes for which they were not held accountable, and there didn't appear to be any effort made to address the root of the issue which in their case did not appear to be the desire to abuse, but simply do their jobs. Perhaps Rodney King and Abner Liouma might have been better examples of the malignancies that need to be excised.
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{giggle} Shut up.
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When blasting a mountain or laying railroad tracks, we know a highly volatile substance like glycerin is not supposed to blow up unless it's properly set with a charge, ...however, we're still gonna make sure we pack it properly so it doesn't get jostled along the way while transporting it to the blast site don't we? I agree that an entire force should not be painted with the same brush as a result of the actions of a few, ...but we don't live in a perfect world, we live in the real world, and in the real world, people lack the discernment to differentiate between the two. With that realization in mind, it is a detriment to his fellow officers to conduct himself that way. My post within this thread is not an indictment of law enforcment, it's an indictment of the officer in question.
You must be hanging with a tough crowd if you truly believe people cant grasp and exercise the concept of not judging a whole based on a few.
Why are you so accepting of those who see a few foul videos on youtube and as a result hate on people who are enforcing the law? Why is this simply "the real world", and therefore officers must react to this imperfection and behave perfectly and virtuously otherwise they must suffer scrutiny to the utmost extent? why cant this officer playing foul (in your opinion) simply be "the real world", and those who view the incident must be perfect and virtuous observers, realizing not all officers are like this and therefore prejudgments against all officers are not justified?
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You must be hanging with a tough crowd if you truly believe people cant grasp and exercise the concept of not judging a whole based on a few.
I base that, not on my social milieu, ...but rather observations in American society. ;)
Why are you so accepting of those who see a few foul videos on youtube and as a result hate on people who are enforcing the law? Why is this simply "the real world", and therefore officers must react to this imperfection and behave perfectly and virtuously otherwise they must suffer scrutiny to the utmost extent? why cant this officer playing foul (in your opinion) simply be "the real world", and those who view the incident must be perfect and virtuous observers, realizing not all officers are like this and therefore prejudgments against all officers are not justified?
Because we're talking about a society that has bred such a psychologically warped mentality for years. :D
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Because we're talking about a society that has bred such a psychologically warped mentality for years. :D
lol
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If you're arrested, you should be able to kick your shoes at cops and they should kindly pick it up and put it back on you. They should apologize for making you angry while they tie your shoe and get you a jolly rancher.
There's fucking consequences to everything, deal with it. Don't want your ass kicked by the cops? Don't try to kick them. Better yet, don't get arrested in the first place.
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If you're arrested, you should be able to kick your shoes at cops and they should kindly pick it up and put it back on you. They should apologize for making you angry while they tie your shoe and get you a jolly rancher.
There's fucking consequences to everything, deal with it. Don't want your ass kicked by the cops? Don't try to kick them. Better yet, don't get arrested in the first place.
heyyyyy sounds like a great point to me