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It seems to me the Republicans only answer to everything is "lower taxes for the rich"... We did that the past 8 years and look where it got us? I am in the upper tax bracket, and my taxes will go from 35 to 39.6 percent... Honestly, it isnt going to effect my life in the slightest... nor will it effect anyone else in the top 5 percent.... So my question is, how many companies used the bush tax cuts to reinvest in their companies to hire more Americans? Please name me 1... They gave out million dollar bonuses and shipped the jobs overseas and got more of a tax cut shipping jobs overseas... So please Republicans, explain to me how this makes any sense...
Also, im getting really sick and tired of hearing Fox News anchors bitch about "paying my neighbors payments because they were irresponsible" my neighbor and his wife both worked for construction companies their entire lives (foreman and a Architect)... Made a couple hundred grand a year for the past 10 years... they bought a home with in their means... (350k) 2 cars, and putting 1 of their children through college (They have 4 the others are in HS and Middle school)... The past almost 2 years neither of them had a paycheck... their home is getting for closed and these right wing assholes keep ranting and raving how irresponsible they are... Shit one of my uncles is a mason and hasnt had a job in close to 3 years, he had 20 employees down to not a penny in almost 3 years... many people were not irresponsible, many people just stopped making money and CANT pay their bills...
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It seems to me the Republicans only answer to everything is "lower taxes for the rich"...
Doesn't seem like that is their only answer to everything to me but you all are more knowledgable in politics than I.
So my question is, how many companies used the bush tax cuts to reinvest in their companies to hire more Americans? Please name me 1... They gave out million dollar bonuses and shipped the jobs overseas and got more of a tax cut shipping jobs overseas... So please Republicans, explain to me how this makes any sense...
Are you specifically asking about huge corporations? Because I would imagine there are thousands of small companies that used the bush tax cuts to reinvest in their companies to grow them and yes, hire more Americans.
Also, im getting really sick and tired of hearing Fox News anchors bitch about "paying my neighbors payments because they were irresponsible" my neighbor and his wife both worked for construction companies their entire lives (foreman and a Architect)... Made a couple hundred grand a year for the past 10 years... they bought a home with in their means... (350k) 2 cars, and putting 1 of their children through college (They have 4 the others are in HS and Middle school)... The past almost 2 years neither of them had a paycheck... their home is getting for closed and these right wing assholes keep ranting and raving how irresponsible they are...
You are right, for some w/o jobs and being foreclosed upon things are beyond their control and it is a shame that some assume that they were intentionally irresponsible. But some people probably were irresponsible. It is wrong to lump them all together.
Shit one of my uncles is a mason and hasnt had a job in close to 3 years, he had 20 employees down to not a penny in almost 3 years... many people were not irresponsible, many people just stopped making money and CANT pay their bills...
Are you saying he hasn't gotten a job as a mason in 3 years or that he hasn't been able to find a job at all in 3 years?
I have a friend who has been out of work for a few months and she is having trouble getting anything at all.
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If you bought a house you could not afford, and possibly leveraged against it, you do not deserve a bail out. One problem in this country is people living beyond their means and it has hurt us big time. If you COULD actually afford your house and just fell on bad times that is one thing but people put no money down and bought toys against their house. I have NO sympathy for those people.
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It seems to me the Republicans only answer to everything is "lower taxes for the rich"... We did that the past 8 years and look where it got us? I am in the upper tax bracket, and my taxes will go from 35 to 39.6 percent... Honestly, it isnt going to effect my life in the slightest... nor will it effect anyone else in the top 5 percent.... So my question is, how many companies used the bush tax cuts to reinvest in their companies to hire more Americans? Please name me 1... They gave out million dollar bonuses and shipped the jobs overseas and got more of a tax cut shipping jobs overseas... So please Republicans, explain to me how this makes any sense...
Also, im getting really sick and tired of hearing Fox News anchors bitch about "paying my neighbors payments because they were irresponsible" my neighbor and his wife both worked for construction companies their entire lives (foreman and a Architect)... Made a couple hundred grand a year for the past 10 years... they bought a home with in their means... (350k) 2 cars, and putting 1 of their children through college (They have 4 the others are in HS and Middle school)... The past almost 2 years neither of them had a paycheck... their home is getting for closed and these right wing assholes keep ranting and raving how irresponsible they are... Shit one of my uncles is a mason and hasnt had a job in close to 3 years, he had 20 employees down to not a penny in almost 3 years... many people were not irresponsible, many people just stopped making money and CANT pay their bills...
Repugs will never address this post.
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It seems to me the Republicans only answer to everything is "lower taxes for the rich"... We did that the past 8 years and look where it got us? I am in the upper tax bracket, and my taxes will go from 35 to 39.6 percent... Honestly, it isnt going to effect my life in the slightest... nor will it effect anyone else in the top 5 percent.... So my question is, how many companies used the bush tax cuts to reinvest in their companies to hire more Americans? Please name me 1... They gave out million dollar bonuses and shipped the jobs overseas and got more of a tax cut shipping jobs overseas... So please Republicans, explain to me how this makes any sense...
Also, im getting really sick and tired of hearing Fox News anchors bitch about "paying my neighbors payments because they were irresponsible" my neighbor and his wife both worked for construction companies their entire lives (foreman and a Architect)... Made a couple hundred grand a year for the past 10 years... they bought a home with in their means... (350k) 2 cars, and putting 1 of their children through college (They have 4 the others are in HS and Middle school)... The past almost 2 years neither of them had a paycheck... their home is getting for closed and these right wing assholes keep ranting and raving how irresponsible they are... Shit one of my uncles is a mason and hasnt had a job in close to 3 years, he had 20 employees down to not a penny in almost 3 years... many people were not irresponsible, many people just stopped making money and CANT pay their bills...
How the fuck can a healthy person be without a job for 3 fucking years?
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It seems to me the Republicans only answer to everything is "lower taxes for the rich"... We did that the past 8 years and look where it got us? I am in the upper tax bracket, and my taxes will go from 35 to 39.6 percent... Honestly, it isnt going to effect my life in the slightest... nor will it effect anyone else in the top 5 percent.... So my question is, how many companies used the bush tax cuts to reinvest in their companies to hire more Americans? Please name me 1... They gave out million dollar bonuses and shipped the jobs overseas and got more of a tax cut shipping jobs overseas... So please Republicans, explain to me how this makes any sense...And how is lowering taxes for people paying NO taxes going to do anything? How is spending money on people who contribute nothing going to stimulate the economy? If it doesn't affect you then why post about it? To brag? That's kinda pathetic on your part dude. I think people don't want their money invested in people (welfare recipients) who will not bring about a return on the money. Millionaires invest their money, prop up the economy and also spend a lot of money.
Also, im getting really sick and tired of hearing Fox News anchors bitch about "paying my neighbors payments because they were irresponsible" my neighbor and his wife both worked for construction companies their entire lives (foreman and a Architect)... Made a couple hundred grand a year for the past 10 years... they bought a home with in their means... (350k) 2 cars, and putting 1 of their children through college (They have 4 the others are in HS and Middle school)... The past almost 2 years neither of them had a paycheck... their home is getting for closed and these right wing assholes keep ranting and raving how irresponsible they are... Shit one of my uncles is a mason and hasnt had a job in close to 3 years, he had 20 employees down to not a penny in almost 3 years... many people were not irresponsible, many people just stopped making money and CANT pay their bills...Bottom line, more people simply bought houses they could not afford because Congress said that they belonged in a house (remember Barney Frank) and then leveraged against them. Deal with the reality. If you feel bad then donate extra to the deadbeat housing fund. You cannot compare a dude who was laid off but prior to that made a good down payment and was current on the payments to some ass who put nothing down, bought a car and boat with the equity in his house and THEN realized he could not afford it. And don't even mention that "they didn't know what they were signing"; they should have asked.
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Doesn't seem like that is their only answer to everything to me but you all are more knowledgable in politics than I.
Are you specifically asking about huge corporations? Because I would imagine there are thousands of small companies that used the bush tax cuts to reinvest in their companies to grow them and yes, hire more Americans.
Getting a 4.9 percent tax break is not going to hire more people... the owners are going to pocket it... Which is their right, but tax breaks do not create jobs, it creates more wealth for the owner
You are right, for some w/o jobs and being foreclosed upon things are beyond their control and it is a shame that some assume that they were intentionally irresponsible. But some people probably were irresponsible. It is wrong to lump them all together.
Are you saying he hasn't gotten a job as a mason in 3 years or that he hasn't been able to find a job at all in 3 years? Yes he lives in South Florida by Fort Myers and has not had a job in close to 3 years... he has 4 kids and if it wasnt for his wife working, they would have lost everything
I have a friend who has been out of work for a few months and she is having trouble getting anything at all.
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If you bought a house you could not afford, and possibly leveraged against it, you do not deserve a bail out. One problem in this country is people living beyond their means and it has hurt us big time. If you COULD actually afford your house and just fell on bad times that is one thing but people put no money down and bought toys against their house. I have NO sympathy for those people.
Agreed.... I prob know 10 people who are in that boat where they lost their jobs, were making close to 100k if not more, but just cant get another job and cant pay their bills anymore...
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How the fuck can a healthy person be without a job for 3 fucking years?
My uncle is a Mason... has been since he was 15 years old... Like many in my parents generation they didnt finish High School and went right to work...thats ALL HE KNOWS... for 35 years... I visited there a couple months ago and its a Ghost Town...
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.And how is lowering taxes for people paying NO taxes going to do anything? How is spending money on people who contribute nothing going to stimulate the economy? If it doesn't affect you then why post about it? To brag? That's kinda pathetic on your part dude. I think people don't want their money invested in people (welfare recipients) who will not bring about a return on the money. Millionaires invest their money, prop up the economy and also spend a lot of money. OK You my friend are IGNORANT... "lowering taxes on people who dont pay taxes"... think about that one... really think about it... Then respond with a coherent response.. lol It doesnt effect me, but it does effect many people I know... and its poeple like me who say "IL PAY MORE AND NOT BITCH TO HELP OTHERS... thats not BRAGGING... thats not being fucking greedy!! Im sure you or someone you know will be on welfare before long... all these right wingers who were always wanting GOV out of their lives are crying for unemployment now that their job is gone... HYPOCRITES
Bottom line, more people simply bought houses they could not afford because Congress said that they belonged in a house (remember Barney Frank) and then leveraged against them. Deal with the reality. If you feel bad then donate extra to the deadbeat housing fund. You cannot compare a dude who was laid off but prior to that made a good down payment and was current on the payments to some ass who put nothing down, bought a car and boat with the equity in his house and THEN realized he could not afford it. And don't even mention that "they didn't know what they were signing"; they should have asked.
NO thats not what barney Frank said... thats what FOX NEWS SAID... People got in houses because there was NO REGULATION on lending... Lenders would sell off the mortgages off to other lenders with out them knowing the risk, they would sell it off to another etc.. Eventually someone would get stuck with it and it never should have been lended in the first place!! When did I compare a hard working family to dead beats? God do you know anything? You repeat the same Republican talking points that have been proven to be lies and wrong time and time again... I can see conversing with you is like having a conversation with a Dog... You sound like you understand, but you are clueless... You are the face of America.. Ignorant, lacking education and common sense, but keep yapping your dick sucker like you know something....
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None of which is my fault......u mentioned they have 5 kids and bought a 350K house maybe they should have had less kids and bought a smaller house, again not my place to say, but neither is it my problem.
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Obama got the poor minority vote by telling them they would pay less taxes when most of them pay pretty much or absolutely no taxes. That's my point. It affects us all because we have to foot the bill for people who contribute nothing to society. Giving handouts to people who have no desire to work and "work" the system is not doing anyone any good. Handouts make the giver and recipient feel good about themselves in the short term but does not solve the bigger problem. So, by all means contribute to a system that is broken and feel good, I don't. Your comment about me being welfare is funny and shows me how much class you truly have, but I can't say it surprises me. Why don't you tell your uncle and all the people you want to support with handouts to go join the military. Good life, pay and they will actually be EARNING a living. I'm sure they won't though, because that requires dedication and hard work. The same goes for Taco Bell, Del Taco, etc. People would rather be on welfare or unemployment then work there until they get on their feet. It is THOSE people I have disgust for and feel are not deserving of my good will or my tax dollars.
Again, people who fall on hard times due to layoffs are okay in my book but dipshits who simply bought houses they could NEVER afford need to learn a hard lesson; don't spend beyond your means. That's basic in my book but apparently people just don't get it, and I'm sorry but that should not be my problem.
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None of which is my fault......u mentioned they have 5 kids and bought a 350K house maybe they should have had less kids and bought a smaller house, again not my place to say, but neither is it my problem.
Thats easy to say for a govt welfarite like you. Free healthcare and such.....you are a socialist sucker living off our tax dollars.
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Lowering taxes on business is effective for the economy, it's been proven time and again. Lowering taxes on businesses is not why the economy is in the dumper right now, so you have no argument here. The costs of doing business oversees is vastly less than it is in the states. Far too many taxes on businesses and workers in unions constantly driving their wages up for work not worth the pay. All unions back and funnel money into the democrat party, so who here is really driving business away?Taxing the rich more will not pay for what obama wants to do or spend. The government could tax the rich 100% of their income and it would still not pay for what he wants, the numbers do not add up. Obama will tax everyone till' we bleed, our dollar is due to go down drastically once inflation catches up with the high amount of money printed by the treasury.
The stimulus plan is not going to work, it will not create jobs. Prove me otherwize. ;)
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Lowering taxes on business is effective for the economy, it's been proven time and again. Lowering taxes on businesses is not why the economy is in the dumper right now, so you have no argument here. The costs of doing business oversees is vastly less than it is in the states. Far too many taxes on businesses and workers in unions constantly driving their wages up for work not worth the pay. All unions back and funnel money into the democrat party, so who here is really driving business away?Taxing the rich more will not pay for what obama wants to do or spend. The government could tax the rich 100% of their income and it would still not pay for what he wants, the numbers do not add up. Obama will tax everyone till' we bleed, our dollar is due to go down drastically once inflation catches up with the high amount of money printed by the treasury.
The stimulus plan is not going to work, it will not create jobs. Prove me otherwize. ;)
LOL... You watch Fox news too much... you are not going to pay a penny more than you did last year... nothing funnier than people who are poor as shit complaining about how much they are going to get taxed cause Boss Limbaugh tells them so... lol
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Yes he lives in South Florida by Fort Myers and has not had a job in close to 3 years... he has 4 kids and if it wasnt for his wife working, they would have lost everything
I believe it. I'm just south of Ft Myers. it's crazy here. There aren't all that many jobs. Tourism and construction dried up, and service economy followed as a result. There are still some niche markets doing well... but the number of people out of work is staggering. I have 4 people in family who lost jobs in last year, many more friends, and 3 more whose workplace is closing in the next 2 months.
If you buy a $X house, you need to realize if you can't guarantee an income that high for the next 30 years (mortgage) then maybe you shouldn't do it. Sucks, but unless you have tenure or a guaranteed contract, you don't know what markets will dry up. Five years ago, real estate and construciton were on FIRE down here. Today, it's pathetic. NOTHING is getting built, and I mean nothing.
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Thats easy to say for a govt welfarite like you. Free healthcare and such.....you are a socialist sucker living off our tax dollars.
Ur continued existance is tied to our continued good will and willingness to serve....short of that ur well and truely fucked. But thanks for paying ur taxes.
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Ur continued existance is tied to our continued good will and willingness to serve....short of that ur well and truely fucked. But thanks for paying ur taxes.
Yes, thank you for occupying other countries, imprisoning and torturing people without cause, and building a hatred for america to the rest of the world.
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Yes, thank you for occupying other countries, imprisoning and torturing people without cause, and building a hatred for america to the rest of the world.
More propaganda from the lunatic left.
You would torture people yourself if you had to save your family.
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Obama will be decreasing the # of people paying taxes in addition to increasing the taxes as you described. IMO everyone above the poverty line should pay some tax so they have a stake in any gov decision to use taxpayor monies. That is very important. I think its near 40% of people that don't pay income tax...why would they care if federal taxes are raised.
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Capital gains taxes will be increased so that affects anyone with investments and the vast majority of retirement funds.
The cap and trade will increase energy costs for all Americans.
The administration has also proposed increasing gas taxes and will be increasing taxes of tobacco again.
Additionally, with all of the spending, we will see more taxes coming down the pipe.
Instead of curbing gov spending, Obama has proposed the largest spending in the history of this nation. I understand some focused gov intervention but not this abuse of taxpayor monies.
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Please remember that taxes will be raised on FAMILIES making 250K+. Thats two professionals.
I'll copy another post for a further responce:
"Obama has:
• Raised taxes on small businesses, the engines of entrepreneurship and job growth
• Raised the capital gains tax
• Lied about "tax cuts for 95% of Americans", offering instead $13 a week, achieved not through tax cuts, but by changing the federal withholding tables!
• Destroyed charitable giving by axing the tax breaks for 26% of all giving (or $81 billion in 2006)
• Proposed a carbon cap-and-trading scheme designed to punish oil companies and further tax consumers
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/03/obama-administration-announces-they.html
Why would Obama inflict these destructive policies while the economy is collapsing? Simple. Each step strengthens the role of government in people's lives.
• Squelching the stock market kills its attractiveness as a parking lot for private capital. Combined with an increase in the capital gains tax, investors will swarm to bonds -- tax-free vehicles like municipal bonds, which benefit the growth of state and local government. And unions, of course.
• Carbon cap-and-tax will raise taxes on all Americans as the cost of goods and services will increase to address a non-existent threat.
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=5441
• True tax cuts would grow the economy, which is why, Obama shuns them. The last major recession was Jimmy Carter's malaise. It consisted of of double-digit inflation and unemployment. It was finally licked by across-the-board tax cuts for everyone which touched off a twenty-plus year run of prosperity.
• Charities reduce the role of government assistance for those in need. That, in Obama's world, can not be tolerated. That is why charities must be choked off and allowed to die. Especially faith-based institutions."
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Getting a 4.9 percent tax break is not going to hire more people... the owners are going to pocket it...
Definitely not true for everyone.
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BTW - Warren Buffet came out against Cap & Trade & Card Check today.
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It seems to me the Republicans only answer to everything is "lower taxes for the rich"... We did that the past 8 years and look where it got us? I am in the upper tax bracket, and my taxes will go from 35 to 39.6 percent... Honestly, it isnt going to effect my life in the slightest... nor will it effect anyone else in the top 5 percent.... So my question is, how many companies used the bush tax cuts to reinvest in their companies to hire more Americans? Please name me 1... They gave out million dollar bonuses and shipped the jobs overseas and got more of a tax cut shipping jobs overseas... So please Republicans, explain to me how this makes any sense...
Also, im getting really sick and tired of hearing Fox News anchors bitch about "paying my neighbors payments because they were irresponsible" my neighbor and his wife both worked for construction companies their entire lives (foreman and a Architect)... Made a couple hundred grand a year for the past 10 years... they bought a home with in their means... (350k) 2 cars, and putting 1 of their children through college (They have 4 the others are in HS and Middle school)... The past almost 2 years neither of them had a paycheck... their home is getting for closed and these right wing assholes keep ranting and raving how irresponsible they are... Shit one of my uncles is a mason and hasnt had a job in close to 3 years, he had 20 employees down to not a penny in almost 3 years... many people were not irresponsible, many people just stopped making money and CANT pay their bills...
perfect example of what you're talking about: http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2009/news/0903/gallery.living_on_unemployment/index.html
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You cant make policies on sob stories like this. Yes things suck, Yes things are horrible, Yes things are going to get worse before they get better, Yes, families are going to have to consolidate and move in with inlaws, etc.
What would you do send thesepeople a monthly check for 5k????
The reality is that people are going to have to make very hard choices and face discomfort for along time.
BTW - Warren Buffett came out against today almost everything Obama is doing:
Card Check
Cap & Trade
Higher Taxes
Etc etc.
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You cant make policies on sob stories like this. Yes things suck, Yes things are horrible, Yes things are going to get worse before they get better, Yes, families are going to have to consolidate and move in with inlaws, etc.
What would you do send thesepeople a monthly check for 5k????
The reality is that people are going to have to make very hard choices and face discomfort for along time.
BTW - Warren Buffett came out against today almost everything Obama is doing:
Card Check
Cap & Trade
Higher Taxes
Etc etc.
the only thing I can find that he's against is Card Check. I see nothing about higher taxes. I also see nothing but support from Buffet for Obama from the news stories that are out today.
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the only thing I can find that he's against is Card Check. I see nothing about higher taxes. I also see nothing but support from Buffet for Obama from the news stories that are out today.
Go read the interview on CNBC, not the nosense that is reported. Yes he said he supports Obama, but when asked about specific policies, it was hard ot see where he agreed with what they are doing.
He clearly states that cap and trade is bad policy and will hike energy costs for people and that now is not the time to raise taxes on people. I will try to post the transcript. He is also against Card Check which, to me, is a big issue that is not being reported on enough but will rear its ugly head very soon.
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Please remember that taxes will be raised on FAMILIES making 250K+. Thats two professionals.
I'll copy another post for a further responce:
"Obama has:
• Raised taxes on small businesses, the engines of entrepreneurship and job growth
• Raised the capital gains tax
• Lied about "tax cuts for 95% of Americans", offering instead $13 a week, achieved not through tax cuts, but by changing the federal withholding tables!
• Destroyed charitable giving by axing the tax breaks for 26% of all giving (or $81 billion in 2006)
• Proposed a carbon cap-and-trading scheme designed to punish oil companies and further tax consumers
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/03/obama-administration-announces-they.html
Why would Obama inflict these destructive policies while the economy is collapsing? Simple. Each step strengthens the role of government in people's lives.
• Squelching the stock market kills its attractiveness as a parking lot for private capital. Combined with an increase in the capital gains tax, investors will swarm to bonds -- tax-free vehicles like municipal bonds, which benefit the growth of state and local government. And unions, of course.
• Carbon cap-and-tax will raise taxes on all Americans as the cost of goods and services will increase to address a non-existent threat.
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=5441
• True tax cuts would grow the economy, which is why, Obama shuns them. The last major recession was Jimmy Carter's malaise. It consisted of of double-digit inflation and unemployment. It was finally licked by across-the-board tax cuts for everyone which touched off a twenty-plus year run of prosperity.
• Charities reduce the role of government assistance for those in need. That, in Obama's world, can not be tolerated. That is why charities must be choked off and allowed to die. Especially faith-based institutions."
Cry me a fucking river.
It's your own god-damned fault for becoming a doctor. Quit making so much money and you won't have to pay so much in taxes. You'd think someone smart enough to become a doctor would realize they shouldn't make so much money.
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It seems to me the Republicans only answer to everything is "lower taxes for the rich"... We did that the past 8 years and look where it got us? I am in the upper tax bracket, and my taxes will go from 35 to 39.6 percent... Honestly, it isnt going to effect my life in the slightest... nor will it effect anyone else in the top 5 percent.... So my question is, how many companies used the bush tax cuts to reinvest in their companies to hire more Americans? Please name me 1... They gave out million dollar bonuses and shipped the jobs overseas and got more of a tax cut shipping jobs overseas... So please Republicans, explain to me how this makes any sense...
Also, im getting really sick and tired of hearing Fox News anchors bitch about "paying my neighbors payments because they were irresponsible" my neighbor and his wife both worked for construction companies their entire lives (foreman and a Architect)... Made a couple hundred grand a year for the past 10 years... they bought a home with in their means... (350k) 2 cars, and putting 1 of their children through college (They have 4 the others are in HS and Middle school)... The past almost 2 years neither of them had a paycheck... their home is getting for closed and these right wing assholes keep ranting and raving how irresponsible they are... Shit one of my uncles is a mason and hasnt had a job in close to 3 years, he had 20 employees down to not a penny in almost 3 years... many people were not irresponsible, many people just stopped making money and CANT pay their bills...
HERES AN IDEA!!!GET A NEW CAREER!!!!!!!Stop asking me to pay for your bad luck.I dont give a rats ass about you,just like they dont give a rats ass about me.
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Go read the interview on CNBC, not the nosense that is reported. Yes he said he supports Obama, but when asked about specific policies, it was hard ot see where he agreed with what they are doing.
He clearly states that cap and trade is bad policy and will hike energy costs for people and that now is not the time to raise taxes on people. I will try to post the transcript. He is also against Card Check which, to me, is a big issue that is not being reported on enough but will rear its ugly head very soon.
please post a transcript otherwise I'll have to decide on your interpretation vs. everything I'm reading and you know how that will turn out.
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Cry me a fucking river.
It's your own god-damned fault for becoming a doctor. Quit making so much money and you won't have to pay so much in taxes. You'd think someone smart enough to become a doctor would realize they shouldn't make so much money.
your a moron. Who are to to say how much a doctor should make? What figure would you come up with. Why go to school for 9 plus years after normal schooling only to be subjected to wage controles. Dumbass.
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LOL... You watch Fox news too much... you are not going to pay a penny more than you did last year... nothing funnier than people who are poor as shit complaining about how much they are going to get taxed cause Boss Limbaugh tells them so... lol
How would you know what they say on fox news? Again another jackass liberal putting people into catagories "poor people". I am not poor nor am I rich. You..........are an asshole..............lol . We will get taxed more, only a CNN watcher would think other wise... lol.
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please post a transcript otherwise I'll have to decide on your interpretation vs. everything I'm reading and you know how that will turn out.
i just checked.
CNBC has it on their website.
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None of which is my fault......u mentioned they have 5 kids and bought a 350K house maybe they should have had less kids and bought a smaller house, again not my place to say, but neither is it my problem.
hh6 I couldnt agree more, although I feel bad for the situation, I dont think that its my responsibility to pay for them when I am struggling trying to pay for my own family. I have 2 cars that are payed for and a house that will be payed for in >10 months. when that is done I will sell and have a bigger down payment for a bigger nicer home that I can afford. I dont make a 6 figure income but I do know what I can afford and dont get in above my head. I have a 19 month old son and a fiance that dosent work (my choice) I am the sole provider for my family and I work 60-70 hours a week to provide for my family. I dont think that I should have to provide for someone else. Will anyone pay my mortgage if I lose my job? No probably not. If I lose my job I will sell my house and find something to rent for a while. I owe significantly less than the remainder of my mortgage it shouldnt be a problem to sell. Do a job for a lot less money and make due without Govt. help. I am also tired of people saying that they cant find a job. I was at my local mcdonalds today and there was a sign saying now hiring, I saw no one filling out an app. very surprising, most people are too proud to work a menial job they would rather sit at home and collect money every month, for doing nothing, while I bust my ass to make due
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i just checked.
CNBC has it on their website.
I think I found it
is this what you're talking about??
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#29605341
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I believe it. I'm just south of Ft Myers. it's crazy here. There aren't all that many jobs. Tourism and construction dried up, and service economy followed as a result. There are still some niche markets doing well... but the number of people out of work is staggering. I have 4 people in family who lost jobs in last year, many more friends, and 3 more whose workplace is closing in the next 2 months.
If you buy a $X house, you need to realize if you can't guarantee an income that high for the next 30 years (mortgage) then maybe you shouldn't do it. Sucks, but unless you have tenure or a guaranteed contract, you don't know what markets will dry up. Five years ago, real estate and construciton were on FIRE down here. Today, it's pathetic. NOTHING is getting built, and I mean nothing.
I actually looked at a house in Cape Coral... Can get a spot around 2500sqft on the water with Ocean access for under 300k... Crazy... 3 years ago I saw a piece of land near the same spot for 400k just for the piece of land.. But according to folks like Shawn Hannity everyone down there is Lazy...
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Thats easy to say for a govt welfarite like you. Free healthcare and such.....you are a socialist sucker living off our tax dollars.
Poor people like you who will loose your job due to companies moving overseas due to Health Costs and High wages... Before long you will be begging people like me to keep paying taxes to support your ass too...
Im real tired of fuckers like you. I make over 500k a year, every home I own is paid for, every suv and car I own is paid for and I don't have 1 debt. PERIOD. There is NOTHING WRONG with SOME socialism. I keep hearing all this shit on fox news how bad socialism is, and YES COMPLETE SOCIALISM is BAD... But some is NOT bad. Healthcare in every other country in the 1st world works GREAT, but the far right wing keeps distorting the facts to keep their buddies in the Pharm companies giving them campaign donation to keep their power.. Its fucking sad!!!! Everyone bitches about how bad health care is overseas, and all the folks bitching have never left the states. I travel all over the world and we have the WORST health care Iv seen...
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You cant make policies on sob stories like this. Yes things suck, Yes things are horrible, Yes things are going to get worse before they get better, Yes, families are going to have to consolidate and move in with inlaws, etc.
What would you do send thesepeople a monthly check for 5k????
The reality is that people are going to have to make very hard choices and face discomfort for along time.
BTW - Warren Buffett came out against today almost everything Obama is doing:
Card Check
Cap & Trade
Higher Taxes
Etc etc.
Ahhhh No buffet didnt... Maybe the clips they played on FIXED NOISE, but if you watched the WHOLE interview...
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HERES AN IDEA!!!GET A NEW CAREER!!!!!!!Stop asking me to pay for your bad luck.I dont give a rats ass about you,just like they dont give a rats ass about me.
LOL... My watch collection costs more than your house... And if you want to call me out, il take a picture showing them saying "Go Fuck Yourself Billy Boy"
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How would you know what they say on fox news? Again another jackass liberal putting people into catagories "poor people". I am not poor nor am I rich. You..........are an asshole..............lol . We will get taxed more, only a CNN watcher would think other wise... lol.
I watch Fox, NBC and CNN... If you are not Poor nor rich you are not going to pay anymore taxes... Yep im an asshole, a RICH asshole. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Il be going back on another 3 month vacation here soon this time Australia, New Z, Guam, Tazmania and Tahiti.
Have fun bitching about those High Taxes you wont ever have to pay.
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It seems to me the Republicans only answer to everything is "lower taxes for the rich"... We did that the past 8 years and look where it got us? I am in the upper tax bracket, and my taxes will go from 35 to 39.6 percent... Honestly, it isnt going to effect my life in the slightest... nor will it effect anyone else in the top 5 percent....
What is stopping you and the rest of your ilk from sending extra money to government?
The reason I am ROFL is because so many simpletons offer other people's money without hesitation but think nothing of "donating" their money to the government. Why do you feel the need to be told since you offer other people's money with ZERO hesitation?
Lastly, please speak for yourself before opining on the impact of tax increases on me and my family.
Thanks,
TerminalPower
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Cry me a fucking river.
It's your own god-damned fault for becoming a doctor. Quit making so much money and you won't have to pay so much in taxes. You'd think someone smart enough to become a doctor would realize they shouldn't make so much money.
Was this post serious or sarcastic?
I actually looked at a house in Cape Coral... Can get a spot around 2500sqft on the water with Ocean access for under 300k... Crazy... 3 years ago I saw a piece of land near the same spot for 400k just for the piece of land.. But according to folks like Shawn Hannity everyone down there is Lazy...
My friend just bought a house on a canal in Marco Island that initially sold for 1.2 million. She got it for 575,000. Wonder if this is near the bottom?
LOL... My watch collection costs more than your house... And if you want to call me out, il take a picture showing them saying "Go Fuck Yourself Billy Boy"
Busted, if you are comfortable sharing what are your investments in and do you feel confident about them?
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Was this post serious or sarcastic?
My friend just bought a house on a canal in Marco Island that initially sold for 1.2 million. She got it for 575,000. Wonder if this is near the bottom?
Busted, if you are comfortable sharing what are your investments in?
Dont listen to him, he is completely FOS. No sane person who has come under attack by ZERO still supports him.
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Dont listen to him, he is completely FOS. No sane person who has come under attack by ZERO still supports him.
who doison or Busted?
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Poor people like you who will loose your job due to companies moving overseas due to Health Costs and High wages... Before long you will be begging people like me to keep paying taxes to support your ass too...
Im real tired of fuckers like you. I make over 500k a year, every home I own is paid for, every suv and car I own is paid for and I don't have 1 debt. PERIOD. There is NOTHING WRONG with SOME socialism. I keep hearing all this shit on fox news how bad socialism is, and YES COMPLETE SOCIALISM is BAD... But some is NOT bad. Healthcare in every other country in the 1st world works GREAT, but the far right wing keeps distorting the facts to keep their buddies in the Pharm companies giving them campaign donation to keep their power.. Its fucking sad!!!! Everyone bitches about how bad health care is overseas, and all the folks bitching have never left the states. I travel all over the world and we have the WORST health care Iv seen...
Congratulations, you have the comprehension skills of a retarded chicken. My response was to HH6, not you, dumbass. I actually agree with what you state here about socialism and healthcare. Oh, and BTW, Im a CEO and a millionaire also.....like most getbiggers, tool. ::)
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"You'd think someone smart enough to become a doctor would realize they shouldn't make so much money. "
What the f--k are you talking about? That didn't even make sense. General practice/Family docs don't make excessive amounts of money. The average family doctor makes $140,000 per year. Thats after 12 years of schooling after high school. During that time most of us accumulate a shit load of debt and 12 yrs of lost wages (besides a small amount of $ in residency). The only docs that make a ton of money are cardiologists and surgeons. Compared to other professions, physician wages have slipped significantly over the past decade. You are clueless.
Some of you think only Families making over 250K will be taxed more, you're wrong. Energy costs will go up, cigarette and gas taxes are on their way up, sales taxes in many parts are going up, capital gains taxes are going up which affects a large % of people, their investments and retirements.
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"You'd think someone smart enough to become a doctor would realize they shouldn't make so much money. "
What the f--k are you talking about? That didn't even make sense. General practice/Family docs don't make excessive amounts of money. The average family doctor makes $140,000 per year. Thats after 12 years of schooling after high school. During that time most of us accumulate a shit load of debt and 12 yrs of lost wages (besides a small amount of $ in residency). The only docs that make a ton of money are cardiologists and surgeons. Compared to other professions, physician wages have slipped significantly over the past decade. You are clueless.
Some of you think only Families making over 250K will be taxed more, you're wrong. Energy costs will go up, cigarette and gas taxes are on their way up, sales taxes in many parts are going up, capital gains taxes are going up which affects a large % of people, their investments and retirements.
Busted is a dope addict and is busted in the head. In Yonkers, NY the average cop and foreman makes over 100k per year and they are going to complain about doctors?????
WTF world do these communists live in???
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What is stopping you and the rest of your ilk from sending extra money to government?
The reason I am ROFL is because so many simpletons offer other people's money without hesitation but think nothing of "donating" their money to the government. Why do you feel the need to be told since you offer other people's money with ZERO hesitation?
Lastly, please speak for yourself before opining on the impact of tax increases on me and my family.
Thanks,
TerminalPower
You don't know what I do or don't do. I give money to charitys on a monthly basis. I pay my assistants daughters college tuition every year. Do I HAVE TO? No.. But shes a struggling single mom and I have no problem helping her out... Every once in a while I give her some cash just to help her out... She works her ass off for me and I appreciate it...
You wont be impacted nor will anyone else on this political board PERIOD. One guy is a MD and Im sure his will go up, but what he fails to mention his MP Insurance will be 100% write off and when he gets his tax return back he will realize he paid less than even under the bush tax cuts after he finds out about Medical Loop holes for Doctors. I the only person who took high level accounting classes in college?
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You don't know what I do or don't do. I give money to charitys on a monthly basis. I pay my assistants daughters college tuition every year. Do I HAVE TO? No.. But shes a struggling single mom and I have no problem helping her out... Every once in a while I give her some cash just to help her out... She works her ass off for me and I appreciate it...
You wont be impacted nor will anyone else on this political board PERIOD. One guy is a MD and Im sure his will go up, but what he fails to mention his MP Insurance will be 100% write off and when he gets his tax return back he will realize he paid less than even under the bush tax cuts after he finds out about Medical Loop holes for Doctors. I the only person who took high level accounting classes in college?
Whatever college you went to should give a refund because your grammar is horrible. Additionally, there is no loop hole for doctors that ordinary business people dont have. You are passing off false information and you know it.
Additionally, just because someone gets a tax "write off" does not man that they still dont have to generate that revenue each month to pay the premium.
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You don't know what I do or don't do. I give money to charitys on a monthly basis. I pay my assistants daughters college tuition every year. Do I HAVE TO? No.. But shes a struggling single mom and I have no problem helping her out... Every once in a while I give her some cash just to help her out... She works her ass off for me and I appreciate it...
You wont be impacted nor will anyone else on this political board PERIOD. One guy is a MD and Im sure his will go up, but what he fails to mention his MP Insurance will be 100% write off and when he gets his tax return back he will realize he paid less than even under the bush tax cuts after he finds out about Medical Loop holes for Doctors. I the only person who took high level accounting classes in college?
i happen to be a CPA who works in a public accounting firm that specializes in taxes. Let me be clear. Busted you have NO clue what you are talking about. I am the one who is on the phone with clients discussing their tax liabilities every year not you. You are sitting here telling people that obamas policies havent affected anyone in a negative way. What? They havent had time to affect anyone in ANY way! what the hell are you even talking about? I am not even going to begin destroying what you have so eloquently posted because frankly I dont even know where to begin. I will not respond to your posts anymore because they are just plain silly.
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i happen to be a CPA who works in a public accounting firm that specializes in taxes. Let me be clear. Busted you have NO clue what you are talking about. I am the one who is on the phone with clients discussing their tax liabilities every year not you. You are sitting here telling people that obamas policies havent affected anyone in a negative way. What? They havent had time to affect anyone in ANY way! what the hell are you even talking about? I am not even going to begin destroying what you have so eloquently posted because frankly I dont even know where to begin. I will not respond to your posts anymore because they are just plain silly.
hahah made me smile
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You don't know what I do or don't do. I give money to charitys on a monthly basis. I pay my assistants daughters college tuition every year. Do I HAVE TO? No.. But shes a struggling single mom and I have no problem helping her out... Every once in a while I give her some cash just to help her out... She works her ass off for me and I appreciate it...
You wont be impacted nor will anyone else on this political board PERIOD. One guy is a MD and Im sure his will go up, but what he fails to mention his MP Insurance will be 100% write off and when he gets his tax return back he will realize he paid less than even under the bush tax cuts after he finds out about Medical Loop holes for Doctors. I the only person who took high level accounting classes in college?
You prove my point precisely...YOU ALREADY GIVE!!!! Why should the government MANDATE you give even more?
It's not the roll of the government to force its citizens to give money to the "less fortunate" people, it is the people who in their heart and minds make that decision.
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Busted is so full of shit. there is no such thing as a "little socialism is good" This is such a fucked up point of view or even an argument. Sure it always starts out as a little but little by little it grows and once you open the door to it it will continue to grow. This country was founded by hard working people not a bunch a lazy fucks who want something for nothing. I am all about helping those in need, but, only those in need who have a game plan and a way to improve themselves, not just take, take, take. The government has no business in redistributing wealth. It will not work anyway, it's as to say those who are in need will just suddenly be cured of all their ill's. The old saying "GIVE A MAN A FISH AND HE EATS FOR A DAY- TEACH A MAN TO FISH AND HE EATS FOR A LIFETIME". Whatever happend to these values. Say what you want about Hannity or fox news, they are right and you are so very wrong.
Busted is a factless buffoon who knows nothing of what he speaks on.
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i happen to be a CPA who works in a public accounting firm that specializes in taxes. Let me be clear. Busted you have NO clue what you are talking about. I am the one who is on the phone with clients discussing their tax liabilities every year not you. You are sitting here telling people that obamas policies havent affected anyone in a negative way. What? They havent had time to affect anyone in ANY way! what the hell are you even talking about? I am not even going to begin destroying what you have so eloquently posted because frankly I dont even know where to begin. I will not respond to your posts anymore because they are just plain silly.
Absolutely correct, the repercussions are so far reaching, it's amazing how hard it is for people warp their brain around it.
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"You'd think someone smart enough to become a doctor would realize they shouldn't make so much money. "
What the f--k are you talking about? That didn't even make sense. General practice/Family docs don't make excessive amounts of money. The average family doctor makes $140,000 per year. Thats after 12 years of schooling after high school. During that time most of us accumulate a shit load of debt and 12 yrs of lost wages (besides a small amount of $ in residency). The only docs that make a ton of money are cardiologists and surgeons. Compared to other professions, physician wages have slipped significantly over the past decade. You are clueless.
Some of you think only Families making over 250K will be taxed more, you're wrong. Energy costs will go up, cigarette and gas taxes are on their way up, sales taxes in many parts are going up, capital gains taxes are going up which affects a large % of people, their investments and retirements.
Relax John, I'm being facetious.