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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: The RedMeatKid on March 20, 2009, 06:41:49 AM
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What's up with this Kings of Leon? Another crappy band with self taught guitar, and an asthmatic singer who sounds like he's got a mouth full of mashed potatoes.
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Maybe they wouldn't "get" you?
All about perspectives
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Maybe they wouldn't "get" you?
All about perspectives
They don't know how to play the guitar. Don't know the basics
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Another band to rip off the 70s and the media think they are the second coming... ::)
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They don't know how to play the guitar. Don't know the basics
The band must be doing something right.
They don't hand out grammy awards for nothing, oh and having a number one song in the UK for four weeks isn't too shabby.
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The band must be doing something right.
They don't hand out grammy awards for nothing, oh and having a number one song in the UK for four weeks isn't too shabby.
Only 12 year old girls care about the charts in the UK...
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Just a bunch of noise.
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rock sucks anyway
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The band must be doing something right.
They don't hand out grammy awards for nothing, oh and having a number one song in the UK for four weeks isn't too shabby.
hahaha, "grammy awards for nothing?" Two words....Milli Vanilli.....hahaha, and there is a long list of "winners" that are just as big of a joke.
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They don't know how to play the guitar. Don't know the basics
Hmmm, let me see here.... They don't know how to play the guitar, don't know the basics and yet are successful and gaining popularity. You on the other hand are sitting behind a computer jealous bashing them... What gives..
Guitar envy or something?
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Hmmm, let me see here.... They don't know how to play the guitar, don't know the basics and yet are successful and gaining popularity. You on the other hand are sitting behind a computer jealous bashing them... What gives..
Guitar envy or something?
Success in the music industry has little to do with musical ability. If you doubt this, think about The Jonas Brothers, Brittney Spears, Miley Cyrus, Lady GaGa, U2 etc.
I actually am a drummer, and I can smoke the guy from Kings of Leon.
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lady gaga has pussypower,she would sell without saying a word on a record
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Success in the music industry has little to do with musical ability. If you doubt this, think about The Jonas Brothers, Brittney Spears, Miley Cyrus, Lady GaGa, U2 etc.
I actually am a drummer, and I can smoke the guy from Kings of Leon.
'Oh, yeah. Where are your pics, big guy!'*
*copyright QO :D
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I only listen to Indian Sitar raga's
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lady gaga has pussypower,she would sell without saying a word on a record
you buy music based on if the singer is hot?
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you buy music based on if the singer is hot?
i don't "buy" music at all LOL
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Success in the music industry has little to do with musical ability. If you doubt this, think about The Jonas Brothers, Brittney Spears, Miley Cyrus, Lady GaGa, U2 etc.
I actually am a drummer, and I can smoke the guy from Kings of Leon.
Hey now.
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i dont know where this thread is about?
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i don't "buy" music at all LOL
convict... ;D
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convict... ;D
they would probably fuck my ass if they knew how big my collection is
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Hey now.
You heard their new song, something about 'boots,' or some such shite? Farking embarrassing. :-[
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You heard their new song, something about 'boots,' or some such shite? Farking embarrassing. :-[
No, not yet. Maybe they're made for walking? :D
"I like their older stuff."
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You heard their new song, something about 'boots,' or some such shite? Farking embarrassing. :-[
"What song is it you wanna hear" 8)
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ACDC rule
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there a great band get a grip.... what would u prefer to hear, crap rap or thrash metal( which is only listend to by bullied freak virgin types in the uk)
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Amon Amarth
Dimmu Borgir
Slayer
Sepultura
Kreator
these are good bands!!!!!!!!
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Amon Amarth
Dimmu Borgir
Slayer
Sepultura
Kreator
these are good bands!!!!!!!!
slayer are good live
saw them at the download festival a couple of years ago
but machine head stole the show
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Slayer
Sepultura
Kreator
these are were good bands but haven't released anything good in years!!!!
Fixed.
Dummy Burger are compete and total utter fucking wank but Amon Amarth are good.
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ACDC rule
Amen to that brother. For those about to rock, i salute you.
P.S. i don't mind the KoL.
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Success in the music industry has little to do with musical ability. If you doubt this, think about The Jonas Brothers, Brittney Spears, Miley Cyrus, Lady GaGa, U2 etc.
I actually am a drummer, and I can smoke the guy from Kings of Leon.
Smoke his bone maybe.
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Success in the music industry has little to do with musical ability. If you doubt this, think about The Jonas Brothers, Brittney Spears, Miley Cyrus, Lady GaGa, U2 etc.
I actually am a drummer, and I can smoke the guy from Kings of Leon.
Well instead of bashing Kings of Leon, maybe you should get off your ass and make some great music! I don't mean this in a put down.. IF you are that good and have a talent showcase it....
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I dont rate them either
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/bang.gif)
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Amon Amarth
Dimmu Borgir
Slayer
Sepultura
Kreator
these are good bands!!!!!!!!
Dethklok FTW.
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Success in the music industry has little to do with musical ability. If you doubt this, think about The Jonas Brothers, Brittney Spears, Miley Cyrus, Lady GaGa, U2 etc.
I actually am a drummer, and I can smoke the guy from Kings of Leon.
??While u2 are not the most technical band, to imply that they don't have musical ability (of which they have a disgusting amount based upon their unheard of reign at the top of music) only highlights your ignorance. I have never heard a band do a good cover of U2, there is a reason for that.
for instance, from 4:50 on there is not another band that has a singer capable of that falsetto, then scream while maintaining that type of vocal purity (save for maybe freddy mercury, RIP). also notice the originality of the guitar solo and the tightness of the rythm section:
or this, hard to find another band anywhere this tight:
You play drums huh? I play:
piano
bass
guitar
harmonica
pedal steel guitar (widely considered the hardest instrument in the world)
and guess what, it doesn't matter. one's ability to play an instrument does not make one a qualified music critic. Even if you could smoke the drummer of kings of leon, he's in a world famous rock band, you're posting on an internet board. he wins.
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Damn, people always try to turn music into some sort of homework assignment. I feel like there is some test out there I need to take to determine if I have the proper tastes in music. For christ's sake it's music!!! Let people listen to what ever the hell they feel like listening to. And as for the really good bands, stop putting them on ridiculously high pedestals they never will live up to. The Beatles were just a band. Led Zeppelin = just a band. The Clash = just a band.
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Damn, people always try to turn music into some sort of homework assignment. I feel like there is some test out there I need to take to determine if I have the proper tastes in music. For christ's sake it's music!!! Let people listen to what ever the hell they feel like listening to. And as for the really good bands, stop putting them on ridiculously high pedestals they never will live up to. The Beatles were just a band. Led Zeppelin = just a band. The Clash = just a band.
There is no proper taste in music man. I love bob dylan, mos def, metallica, u2, brad paisley, the list goes on. if they can write a good song, i'm into it. There is an unecessary amount of hate out there when it comes to musicians, and it often has to do with "technical ability" or how difficult it is to play. Well, difficulty almost never equates to a formula for good music, but a lot of douche bags sure think it does.
As for kings of leon, they aren't amazingly talented, but they write good songs, and more importantly, great singles. "Sex on fire" has all the qualities needed for a hit song.
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There is no proper taste in music man. I love bob dylan, mos def, metallica, u2, brad paisley, the list goes on. if they can write a good song, i'm into it. There is an unecessary of hate out there when it comes to musicians, and it often has to do with "technical ability" or how difficult it is to play. Well, difficulty almost never equates to a formula for good music, but a lot of douche bags sure think it does.
Exactly! Case in point: Dream Theater. Probably the most technically advanced band ever. Not very fun to listen to.
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Damn, people always try to turn music into some sort of homework assignment. I feel like there is some test out there I need to take to determine if I have the proper tastes in music. For christ's sake it's music!!! Let people listen to what ever the hell they feel like listening to. And as for the really good bands, stop putting them on ridiculously high pedestals they never will live up to. The Beatles were just a band. Led Zeppelin = just a band. The Clash = just a band.
no they weren't you fucking queer.
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skillz are everything for some people...for me too
i listen to rap, a genre where skillz are very important...i would never ever listen to a clown like 50 cent,you have to listen to guys like BIG L and co to understand the greatness of rap
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skillz are everything for some people...for me too
i listen to rap, a genre where skillz are very important...i would never ever listen to a clown like 50 cent,you have to listen to guys like BIG L and co to understand the greatness of rap
ok, but mos def, talib kweili, and common are not amazingly fast, but they have badass beats and lyrics, is that skilled in your mind or do they not "spit it" quick enough for your tastes. or what about dell the funky homo sapien?
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ok, but mos def, talib kweili, and common are not amazingly fast, but they have badass beats and lyrics, is that skilled in your mind or do they not "spit it" quick enough for your tastes. or what about dell the funky homo sapien?
mos def,talib and common are among the best rappers definitaly
it's not about the speed,it's about the lyrics and the technique...some guys rhyme very simple for example 50:suck-fuck etc
and then you have guys who rhyme a whole line on another line...these are great skillz for me for example killa cam
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mos def,talib and common are among the best rappers definitaly
it's not about the speed,it's about the lyrics and the technique...some guys rhyme very simple for example 50:suck-fuck etc
and then you have guys who rhyme a whole line on another line...these are great skillz for me for example killa cam
ok, i just wanted to see if we were on the same page. I can't stand most mainstream rappers, cept for luda, he's badass live, i was a luda hater till i saw him live i admit. mos, kweli and common are my favs, i also really like old school NWA, public enemy... the roots earlier stuff, like illadelph half life was really good. after that, especialy that album with "the seed" they got a lil lost.
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ok, i just wanted to see if we were on the same page. I can't stand most mainstream rappers, cept for luda, he's badass live, i was a luda hater till i saw him live i admit. mos, kweli and common are my favs, i also really like old school NWA, public enemy... the roots earlier stuff, like illadelph half life was really good. after that, especialy that album with "the seed" they got a lil lost.
we seem to like the same guys,old school is great though their skillz are not top notch
from the new guys i like lupe fiasco the most
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we seem to like the same guys,old school is great though their skillz are not top notch
from the new guys i like lupe fiasco the most
does he do that conflict diamonds song? if so, yeah, he's tight, been meaning to check out more of his stuff. to branch out a little into the hip hop/ R&B genre, i still am bummed that lauryn hill lost her mind, because i very much enjoyed the miseducation album, and her work with the fugees. she was really good.
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does he do that conflict diamonds song? if so, yeah, he's tight, been meaning to check out more of his stuff. to branch out a little into the hip hop/ R&B genre, i still am bummed that lauryn hill lost her mind, because i very much enjoyed the miseducation album, and her work with the fugees. she was really good.
listen to go go gadget flow from lupe
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Jedi Mind Tricks
Wu-tang
Gza (solo stuff)
Non-phixion
Immortal Technique
Sage Francis
Kanye, Common, Talib
public enemy
tribe called quest
just to name a few
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Jedi Mind Tricks
Wu-tang
Gza (solo stuff)
Non-phixion
Immortal Technique
Sage Francis
Kanye, Common, Talib
public enemy
tribe called quest
just to name a few
i agree except for kanye
he is a superb producer but bad rapper IMO
i gotta say i love his singing...i love his arrogance and ignorance,cause he knows he can't sing but still makes an album on which he only sings...with autotune but hey he at least he sings
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i agree except for kanye
he is a superb producer but bad rapper IMO
i gotta say i love his singing...i love his arrogance and ignorance,cause he knows he can't sing but still makes an album on which he only sings...with autotune but hey he at least he sings
Yeah, I agree. I pretty much stop listening to his lyrics after he said, "I'd give anything for a Klondike, and I'd give anything for a blond dike."
But, 808 and Heartbreaks does have an improvement in lyrical quality. Production still amazing.
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Yeah, I agree. I pretty much stop listening to his lyrics after he said, "I'd give anything for a Klondike, and I'd give anything for a blond dike."
But, 808 and Heartbreaks does have an improvement in lyrical quality. Production still amazing.
not many guys who produced so many great beats
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the song he did with estelle was a pretty great pop song, but I think kanye is a douche. talented producer for sure, but a douche.
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not many guys who produced so many great beats
Pretty much just Dr. Dre, Dj. Premier, and maybe Rza. Kanye is definitely incredible.
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the song he did with estelle was a pretty great pop song, but I think kanye is a douche. talented producer for sure, but a douche.
he is a big douche...remember this fucker cried like a bitch when he didn't win the best video award
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Rap sucks.
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Rap sucks.
mainstream rap sucks, agreed. the non pop rap scene is pretty damn good.
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Rap sucks.
for me metal sucks so what?
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mainstream rap sucks, agreed. the non pop rap scene is pretty damn good.
I wouldn't know. I gave up on rap in the late 80's early 90's, anything after that is junk.
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ok, but mos def, talib kweili, and common are not amazingly fast, but they have badass beats and lyrics, is that skilled in your mind or do they not "spit it" quick enough for your tastes. or what about dell the funky homo sapien?
Del is way under appreciated. He is one of the few guys it is impossible to rap along with. A flow unlike any other.
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for me metal sucks so what?
So you are a jungle bunny wana be? ???
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for me metal sucks so what?
You're brown, your opinion doesn't matter.
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So you are a jungle bunny wana be? ???
i would love to respond but my english is not good enough to understand this slang
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Del is way under appreciated. He is one of the few guys it is impossible to rap along with. A flow unlike any other.
Like that "Snow" guy ???
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i would love to respond but my english is not good enough to understand this slang
He's just being an idiot.
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You're brown, your opinion doesn't matter.
oh boy,after your death on getbig you should not say something like this
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Like that "Snow" guy ???
As in del the funky homosapien. From gorillaz, hieroglyphics, souls of mischief.
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oh boy,after your death on getbig you should not say something like this
I'm dead ???
Shit. :(
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I wouldn't know. I gave up on rap in the late 80's early 90's, anything after that is junk.
In the 90's the music industry started a new form of marketing with rap. as opposed to marketing an artist, they started marketing a lifestyle to justify the actions of the poor (relatively) black community. They knew that rich, white kids parents would rail against the music, and that would drive up sales. It was perfect. It led to offensive, bad rap coming out in great quantities. for instance, most rappers today (that are famous) make more money from ring tones than albums sales or radio spins. telling, no? A similar marketing technique has happened to country music. Once the Nashville sound took over in the mid 80, they started marketing the red neck lifestyle to justify the anti liberal movement of the south. The true country greats, like waylon, buck, cash, willie, merle, were not singing songs about the american flag and terrorists. they sang about the people, the land, the country, and it's problems, not to mention, tons of sunstance abuse. Now, we have most of america thinking country music is terrible, which, on a popular level, is entirely true. the music industry has a massive amount of power on pop culture, most people just don't realize it.
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In the 90's the music industry started a new form of marketing with rap. as opposed to marketing an artist, they started marketing a lifestyle to justify the actions of the poor (relatively) black community. They knew that rich, white kids parents would rail against the music, and that would drive up sales. It was perfect. It led to offensive, bad rap coming out in great quantities. for instance, most rappers today (that are famous) make more money from ring tones than albums sales or radio spins. telling, no? A similar marketing technique has happened to country music. Once the Nashville sound took over in the mid 80, they started marketing the red neck lifestyle to justify the anti liberal movement of the south. The true country greats, like waylon, buck, cash, willie, merle, were not singing songs about the american flag and terrorists. they sang about the people, the land, the country, and it's problems, not to mention, tons of sunstance abuse. Now, we have most of america thinking country music is terrible, which, on a popular level, is entirely true. the music industry has a massive amount of power on pop culture, most people just don't realize it.
That's pretty interesting/true. Where did you here that?
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Is this good rap ???
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Yes
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Yes
Trying to find a version that works, embedding is disabled by everyone, WTF? >:(
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i would love to respond but my english is not good enough to understand this slang
;D
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a lot of the best are self taught.
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That's pretty interesting/true. Where did you here that?
Well, I'm a musician, singer/songwriter/multi instrumentalist, and I have done extensive research on the marketing strategies employed by various artists and labels, and came to these conclusions on my own (but I am not alone in these thoughts). When I finish my BA, I'm going to get a masters and do my thesis on post modernism and the marketing of pop music. Also, I'm hoping to bypass that next step in education for a few years and write a song that gets me famous... OR release that song to another famous musician and reap the monetary gains i would make as composer to make my education expenses much easier. I currently have one song being looked at by an up and coming taylor swift carbon copy. It only takes one song to get you into the exclusive circle, so that's my hope (like katy perry, she allowed kelly clarkson to use a song, and someone else, and BAM once they hear of that, your in. in her case, she's hot, so she's a pop star easy). Yes, I do realize my hypocrisy of railing against the lame practices of the industry, yet trying to get into that industry. I'm not trying to fight a war, i'm trying to make some money and have fun doing it. oh well.
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Well, I'm a musician, singer/songwriter/multi instrumentalist, and I have done extensive research on the marketing strategies employed by various artists and labels, and came to these conclusions on my own (but I am not alone in these thoughts). When I finish my BA, I'm going to get a masters and do my thesis on post modernism and the marketing of pop music. Also, I'm hoping to bypass that next step in education for a few years and write a song that gets me famous... OR release that song to another famous musician and reap the monetary gains i would make as composer to make my education expenses much easier. I currently have one song being looked at by an up and coming taylor swift carbon copy. It only takes one song to get you into the exclusive circle, so that's my hope (like katy perry, she allowed kelly clarkson to use a song, and someone else, and BAM once they hear of that, your in. in her case, she's hot, so she's a pop star easy). Yes, I do realize my hypocrisy of railing against the lame practices of the industry, yet trying to get into that industry. I'm not trying to fight a war, i'm trying to make some money and have fun doing it. oh well.
good luck bro,you seem to be very intelligent
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Well, I'm a musician, singer/songwriter/multi instrumentalist, and I have done extensive research on the marketing strategies employed by various artists and labels, and came to these conclusions on my own (but I am not alone in these thoughts). When I finish my BA, I'm going to get a masters and do my thesis on post modernism and the marketing of pop music. Also, I'm hoping to bypass that next step in education for a few years and write a song that gets me famous... OR release that song to another famous musician and reap the monetary gains i would make as composer to make my education expenses much easier. I currently have one song being looked at by an up and coming taylor swift carbon copy. It only takes one song to get you into the exclusive circle, so that's my hope (like katy perry, she allowed kelly clarkson to use a song, and someone else, and BAM once they hear of that, your in. in her case, she's hot, so she's a pop star easy). Yes, I do realize my hypocrisy of railing against the lame practices of the industry, yet trying to get into that industry. I'm not trying to fight a war, i'm trying to make some money and have fun doing it. oh well.
Other than live performances, how do you see musicians making money going forward? The CD model, for all intents, is dead, as everyone is downloading. I don't even see the need for record labels anymore. Their main value was in distribution. Now, there's nothing to distribute. An artist can just record his music and post it on his webpage.
As an aside, Kings of Leon wouldn't want to follow this band in its prime.
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this is a great song by a great band!!!!!!!!
ta ta
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"In Birmigham they loved the governor,
boo,boo,boo,
now we all did what we could do"
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Love this song
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You heard their new song, something about 'boots,' or some such shite? Farking embarrassing. :-[
Good thing I didn't go see the Allman Brothers at the Beacon theater last night.they only brought out Eric Clapton for an hour long set :o :-\
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Rap isn't music. It's entertainment. I'm not condemning it, I enjoy some of it. But it's not music. It has no place on a thread about rock bands.
Here is a real musician:
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"In Birmigham they loved the governor,
boo,boo,boo,
now we all did what we could do"
'Walk on' - Neil Young ;)
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'Walk on' - Neil Young ;)
"Well I hope Neil Young will remember,
a southern man don't need him around anyhow"
;)
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"Well I hope Neil Young will remember,
a southern man don't need him around anyhow"
;)
Neil wrote 'Alabama' and 'Southern Man.' Didn't sit too well with Ronnie (who was from Florida!!!) who then wrote Sweet Home Alabama as a retort. Neil's response to being called out by name was the song 'Walk on,' on the On the Beach album - ie. let it go, bro, let it go. :)
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skillz are everything for some people...for me too
i listen to rap, a genre where skillz are very important...i would never ever listen to a clown like 50 cent,you have to listen to guys like BIG L and co to understand the greatness of rap
Skillz?
Rap is a joke, anyone can rap....it's called TALKING.
Let me put it to you like this. If you asked me to Rap a B.I.G song, I could do it. give me 20 minutes and I'll have it word for word.
Hand me a guitar and tell me to play some Van Halen, and I wouldn't know where to start.
Just another indication of this generations style over substance mentality.
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Skillz?
Rap is a joke, anyone can rap....it's called TALKING.
Let me put it to you like this. If you asked me to Rap a B.I.G song, I could do it. give me 20 minutes and I'll have it word for word.
Hand me a guitar and tell me to play some Van Halen, and I wouldn't know where to start.
Just another indication of this generations style over substance mentality.
When Jimmy Page did the remake of Kashmir with pdiddy{why Jimmy,why ??? >:(} supposedly Jimmy asked what key pdiddy wanted to do it in and pdiddy said "whats a key" :-\
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When Jimmy Page did the remake of Kasmir with pdiddy{why Jimmy,why ??? >:(} supposedly Jimmy asked what key pdiddy wanted to do it in and pdiddy said "whats a key" :-\
I'm surprised he didn't say.... "we going to da keys ?!???!, ...which one.,...Key Biscyane?.... I made a muthaf**kin video there !!!,...lemme call my posse and get da boat ready, yo where dat case of Krystal at??.......someone call my bitches!!!!!"
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A case of two guys from very different worlds. Jimmy Page - a guy who spent years as a well respected session musicaian before Led Zeppelin formed. Diddy - a guy who spent most of his time behind a production desk working with a genre based on synthesized beats and samples/
If a band or an artist has great technical ability, i can respect that, but if their music doesn't do it for me i'm not gonna listen to it.
A good case raised already with U2. The Edge is a good technically gifted player ( i would say a great one) but for me his band just do nothing for me. Vertigo is the only U2 isong i've come close to liking.
For me the ideal band has to have great ability and great songs. See The Who, AC/DC, ZZ Top, The Stones etc.
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Skillz?
Rap is a joke, anyone can rap....it's called TALKING.
Let me put it to you like this. If you asked me to Rap a B.I.G song, I could do it. give me 20 minutes and I'll have it word for word.
Hand me a guitar and tell me to play some Van Halen, and I wouldn't know where to start.
Just another indication of this generations style over substance mentality.
that's not right,you don't know anything bout rap
please rhyme a couple of lines and i tell you the difference...
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that's not right,you don't know anything bout rap
please rhyme a couple of lines and i tell you the difference...
I know all I need to know, it licks balls
Point is I could rhyme you a couple lines
But I could not sit down at a keyboard or pick up a guitar and produce anything remotely musical with years of practice
Rapping is scatological nursery rhymes
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I know all I need to know, it licks balls
Point is I could rhyme you a couple lines
But I could not sit down at a keyboard or pick up a guitar and produce anything remotely musical with years of practice
Rapping is scatological nursery rhymes
you could not rhyme great lines like biggie and flow like him,forget it
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you could not rhyme great lines like biggie and flow like him,forget it
That's because i don't have them big chicken eating lips and a primitive nose with a bone in it.
But I could say the words :D
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I know all I need to know, it licks balls
Point is I could rhyme you a couple lines
But I could not sit down at a keyboard or pick up a guitar and produce anything remotely musical with years of practice
Rapping is scatological nursery rhymes
Truth being spoken here.
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my favorite song at the moment
#1 hit
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A case of two guys from very different worlds. Jimmy Page - a guy who spent years as a well respected session musicaian before Led Zeppelin formed. Diddy - a guy who spent most of his time behind a production desk working with a genre based on synthesized beats and samples/
If a band or an artist has great technical ability, i can respect that, but if their music doesn't do it for me i'm not gonna listen to it.
A good case raised already with U2. The Edge is a good technically gifted player ( i would say a great one) but for me his band just do nothing for me. Vertigo is the only U2 isong i've come close to liking.
For me the ideal band has to have great ability and great songs. See The Who, AC/DC, ZZ Top, The Stones etc.
I disagree. I think the edge is not very good at all. He couldn't play basic rock 'n roll covers because he only knows how to make noises with electronic effects.
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my favorite song at the moment
#1 hit
Reminds me of Three Dog Night.
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U2 has produced a wealth of great music, IMO
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my favorite song at the moment
#1 hit
Fuckin classic...Perfect music to fuck a girl to ;D
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What's up with this Kings of Leon? Another crappy band with self taught guitar, and an asthmatic singer who sounds like he's got a mouth full of mashed potatoes.
Not all self taught guitar players are bad..
Yngwie Malmsteen is a self taught guitarist for example.
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I like the song about chlamydia.
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good luck bro,you seem to be very intelligent
thanks man, i appreciate the sentiment.
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Other than live performances, how do you see musicians making money going forward? The CD model, for all intents, is dead, as everyone is downloading. I don't even see the need for record labels anymore. Their main value was in distribution. Now, there's nothing to distribute. An artist can just record his music and post it on his webpage.
As an aside, Kings of Leon wouldn't want to follow this band in its prime.
First off, thin lizzy, have you seen "from a whisper to a scream: a history of irish music?" it is fantastic.
as for the industry, i think that radiohead showed that you don't need a label for distribution. Myspace/facebook/band web pages are all that is needed, because recording quality sounding music is unbelievably cheap these days. granted it might not have the crispness of a modern u2 album, if you can't get your basic idea across with basic recording equipment, you're in trouble (basic meaning pro tools, m-hardware, midi, decent mics. nirvana recorded all of in utero with a shure SM57 and got some great sounds. thats not expensive in the slightest, well, relatively). Digital download is the new distribution, and it makes perfect sense. Record companies are only necessary for the money aimed at advertising. yes, they buy those covers on rolling stone, blender, etc... they just don't word it like that. but i assure you, they pay for that "advertising." now, we see the resurgence of the indie scene in pop music because the record companies have learned that a "scene" advertises itself, via clothing, hairstyles, sound, and area. Portland gave us conner oberst/bright eyes, postal service, m. ward, and the decembrists. they all collaborated (on postal service), and they marketed themselves via their scene. Its brilliant, but it works. but anyway, the new music industry way to make money is this:
hit single or scene to latch on to/create (buzz)
digital download (distribution)
live show (money)
I wish there was more to it, but thats all it is anymore. I think that eventualy record companies will re-emerge as a power by offering songs for uber cheap (like 39 cents a song), and marketing the bands. Record companies will return to what they were initially: the street team.
again, this is all just my opinion. i could be dead wrong.
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Not all self taught guitar players are bad..
Yngwie Malmsteen is a self taught guitarist for example.
kurt cobain.
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kurt cobain.
santana?
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again, this is all just my opinion. i could be dead wrong.
No. That's pretty damn good. Off the top of my head, I'd add distribution (Rock Band, radio rights, etc), licensing, and merchandising. Still lots of money to be made, just different pie charts.
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santana?
Started out as a studio slave, then went really independent, now seems to be retired as a guitar for hire. I've seen him and his band many times and he just loves making music. Devadip FTW!
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No. That's pretty damn good. Off the top of my head, I'd add distribution (Rock Band, radio rights, etc), licensing, and merchandising. Still lots of money to be made, just different pie charts.
the problem is that radio is owned by the record companies and they play the same songs over and over and over. Licencing and merchandising comes into play only if you're at the radio level these days, at least large scale like rock band and guitar hero. You can sell merch at your shows, and maybe get a song on a movie soundtrack or videogame. its really hard these days, but the industry has painted itself into a bit of a corner, and that backlash has only begun. the next big overhaul is starting to occur in the concert industry. Prices are going to fall drasticaly, because they are ridiculous. the artists aren't reaping anything from the prices that these companies like livenation and ticketmaster are charging, and the fees are only hurting everything. U2 has annouced they will be selling tickets at recession buster prices, as low as 30 dollars. U2 is able to do this because they are the biggest concert act around, but other bands don't have that liberty, or, most importantly, that power.
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the problem is that radio is owned by the record companies and they play the same songs over and over and over. Licencing and merchandising comes into play only if you're at the radio level these days, at least large scale like rock band and guitar hero. You can sell merch at your shows, and maybe get a song on a movie soundtrack or videogame. its really hard these days, but the industry has painted itself into a bit of a corner, and that backlash has only begun. the next big overhaul is starting to occur in the concert industry. Prices are going to fall drasticaly, because they are ridiculous. the artists aren't reaping anything from the prices that these companies like livenation and ticketmaster are charging, and the fees are only hurting everything. U2 has annouced they will be selling tickets at recession buster prices, as low as 30 dollars. U2 is able to do this because they are the biggest concert act around, but other bands don't have that liberty, or, most importantly, that power.
Wow. You've done some real good thinking about this. Aces. Give me a PM on some of your favs - old and new - I'd love to hear what you have to say.
/and yes, there's more than a few of us who like the good stuff :)
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Wow. You've done some real good thinking about this. Aces. Give me a PM on some of your favs - old and new - I'd love to hear what you have to say.
/and yes, there's more than a few of us who like the good stuff :)
Pm sent my friend. please reciprocate.
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Not all self taught guitar players are bad..
Yngwie Malmsteen is a self taught guitarist for example.
dime was self taught
james hetfield was self taught but he knew how to play piano before hand
and myself of course \m/
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I disagree. I think the edge is not very good at all. He couldn't play basic rock 'n roll covers because he only knows how to make noises with electronic effects.
I actually meant the bit in brackets to say "i wouldn't say a great one".
I'll give him good but not great. And like you say, far too reliant on effects. I'd say the same for Tom Morello.
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I actually meant the bit in brackets to say "i wouldn't say a great one".
I'll give him good but not great. And like you say, far too reliant on effects. I'd say the same for Tom Morello.
The edge has written the musical structure to a lot of highly respected and hit songs, he's doing something right.
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The edge has written the musical structure to a lot of highly respected and hit songs, he's doing something right.
edge is not a good wrestler at all
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edge is not a good wrestler at all
the edge is also an ugly car
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santana?
jimi?
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jimi?
juelz?