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Title: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Busted on May 12, 2009, 08:33:05 AM
Hypocrite...
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: BM OUT on May 12, 2009, 08:35:50 AM
Why is that?Because she happens to be a model?Obama claims to be a Christian,is he typical?
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: bears on May 12, 2009, 08:36:54 AM
Hypocrite...

 exactly.  obama is a christian.  why do you think obama is a hypocrite?  explain yourself.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 12, 2009, 08:52:52 AM
exactly.  obama is a christian.  why do you think obama is a hypocrite?  explain yourself.

He does not keep the Sabbath.

He has committed a mortal sin as a christian by not going to church.

I guess he is a CINO.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Hereford on May 12, 2009, 08:56:44 AM
Well I think we can assume she could correctly spell 'typical'.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 12, 2009, 09:00:54 AM
Well I think we can assume she could correctly spell 'typical'.

Busted in the Head has the worst spelling and grammar of all of the posters on the Getbig forums.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: bears on May 12, 2009, 09:18:21 AM
Busted in the Head has the worst spelling and grammar of all of the posters on the Getbig forums.

i do find it funny that busted gets so caught up in his own hatred for anything christian that he forgets that this country is still an overwhelmingly christian nation.  if thats not a TYPICAL media baby lib i don't know what is.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Busted on May 12, 2009, 09:52:13 AM
First off, I think ALL Religious people are hypocrites.  Religion is a joke and brain washing for dumb people. Grown intelligent adults choose to follow the fictional book "The Bible", instead of using rational thinking. 

Why do I think Miss Cali is a hypocrite?

Well first off, shes a model.  A christian Model is like a "Kosher Pig farmer", in less you are a hypocrite. It's sad I know the bible better than these "Professional Christians".  Trying to get on TV like shes all squeaky clean.  Letting Michael Felps bust his nuts in her face. lol

1- According to "The Bible" no woman is supposed to dress in any way to sexually attract men.  She went on national TV promoting her body in a sexual manner, half naked to attract men. 

2-She got plastic surgery. According to "The Bible",  "you are to treat your body like a temple".  Surgery for cosmetic purposes (Boob Job) goes against "The Bible" directly.

3- Lied in her application.  Do I need to explain "The Lie"?

4- She judges everyone who favors same sex marriage.  Judging? What would Jesus do? Where in the new test does Jesus mention gay people?  Keep searching... he never did...

Now, do i think any of these things above are BAD? NO, but when she starts preaching the whole "Christian Crap" you better not be a freggin hypocrite!

PS, My father was a minister. I know the bible a little better than most.  :o)  It's a nice fictional book!

Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: OzmO on May 12, 2009, 09:57:41 AM
First off, I think ALL Religious people are hypocrites.  Religion is a joke and brain washing for dumb people. Grown intelligent adults choose to follow the fictional book "The Bible", instead of using rational thinking. 

Why do I think Miss Cali is a hypocrite?

Well first off, shes a model.  A christian Model is like a "Kosher Pig farmer", in less you are a hypocrite. It's sad I know the bible better than these "Professional Christians".  Trying to get on TV like shes all squeaky clean.  Letting Michael Felps bust his nuts in her face. lol

1- According to "The Bible" no woman is supposed to dress in any way to sexually attract men.  She went on national TV promoting her body in a sexual manner, half naked to attract men. 

2-She got plastic surgery. According to "The Bible",  "you are to treat your body like a temple".  Surgery for cosmetic purposes (Boob Job) goes against "The Bible" directly.

3- Lied in her application.  Do I need to explain "The Lie"?

4- She judges everyone who favors same sex marriage.  Judging? What would Jesus do? Where in the new test does Jesus mention gay people?  Keep searching... he never did...

Now, do i think any of these things above are BAD? NO, but when she starts preaching the whole "Christian Crap" you better not be a freggin hypocrite!

PS, My father was a minister. I know the bible a little better than most.  :o)  It's a nice fictional book!



Great post, Busted
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: BM OUT on May 12, 2009, 10:02:40 AM
First off, I think ALL Religious people are hypocrites.  Religion is a joke and brain washing for dumb people. Grown intelligent adults choose to follow the fictional book "The Bible", instead of using rational thinking. 

Why do I think Miss Cali is a hypocrite?

Well first off, shes a model.  A christian Model is like a "Kosher Pig farmer", in less you are a hypocrite. It's sad I know the bible better than these "Professional Christians".  Trying to get on TV like shes all squeaky clean.  Letting Michael Felps bust his nuts in her face. lol

1- According to "The Bible" no woman is supposed to dress in any way to sexually attract men.  She went on national TV promoting her body in a sexual manner, half naked to attract men. 

2-She got plastic surgery. According to "The Bible",  "you are to treat your body like a temple".  Surgery for cosmetic purposes (Boob Job) goes against "The Bible" directly.

3- Lied in her application.  Do I need to explain "The Lie"?

4- She judges everyone who favors same sex marriage.  Judging? What would Jesus do? Where in the new test does Jesus mention gay people?  Keep searching... he never did...

Now, do i think any of these things above are BAD? NO, but when she starts preaching the whole "Christian Crap" you better not be a freggin hypocrite!

PS, My father was a minister. I know the bible a little better than most.  :o)  It's a nice fictional book!



Probably the dumbest post Ive seen.How is getting breats implants defileing the temple?I hear this same assanine argument against steroid use.By that insane logic,you shouldnt diet because it may pose a bit of a threat to the temple,or lift,or do cardio because it could damage knees.Stupid idiotic argument.



She judged NO ONE.She said that TO HER she feels marriage should be between a man and a women.THE BIBLE CLEARLY SAYS MARRIAGE IS BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMEN!!You being a Bible scholar should know that.

The ONLY people judging are little guys like Perez Hilton.He WONT tolerate ANYONE having a different opinion then him and his crew of fags.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: MM2K on May 12, 2009, 10:07:51 AM
Anyone who says ALL religous people are hypocrites are themselves pathetic simpletons. Not always being consistent with your principles is not hypocracy.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: tonymctones on May 12, 2009, 10:08:04 AM
Hypocrite...
you have got to be the biggest idiot on getbig congrats...
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: tonymctones on May 12, 2009, 10:09:31 AM
Anyone who says ALL religous people are hypocrites are themselves pathetic simpletons. Not always being consistent with your principles is not hypocracy.
also take into account that we all sin, including christians its part of life as God put it Christ was put on this earth do die for our sins, if we didnt sin then that act wouldnt have been needed. Sinning is part of being a christian something that busteds daddy apparently forgot to tell him... ::)
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Butterbean on May 12, 2009, 10:31:17 AM
First off, I think ALL Religious people are hypocrites.  Religion is a joke and brain washing for dumb people. Grown intelligent adults choose to follow the fictional book "The Bible", instead of using rational thinking. 

Why do I think Miss Cali is a hypocrite?

Well first off, shes a model.  A christian Model is like a "Kosher Pig farmer", in less you are a hypocrite. It's sad I know the bible better than these "Professional Christians".  Trying to get on TV like shes all squeaky clean.  Letting Michael Felps bust his nuts in her face. lol

1- According to "The Bible" no woman is supposed to dress in any way to sexually attract men.  She went on national TV promoting her body in a sexual manner, half naked to attract men. 

2-She got plastic surgery. According to "The Bible",  "you are to treat your body like a temple".  Surgery for cosmetic purposes (Boob Job) goes against "The Bible" directly.

3- Lied in her application.  Do I need to explain "The Lie"?

4- She judges everyone who favors same sex marriage.  Judging? What would Jesus do? Where in the new test does Jesus mention gay people?  Keep searching... he never did...

Now, do i think any of these things above are BAD? NO, but when she starts preaching the whole "Christian Crap" you better not be a freggin hypocrite!

PS, My father was a minister. I know the bible a little better than most.  :o)  It's a nice fictional book!


Interesting! 

Busted, what denomination was your father when he was a minister?

Also, do you believe it is wrong for Christians to get braces on their teeth soley for cosmetic purposes?  Thanks!



Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Buffgeek on May 12, 2009, 10:47:00 AM
First off, I think ALL Religious people are hypocrites. 

Thats kind of the point guy. Particularly Christians.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: PTB on May 12, 2009, 10:48:08 AM
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1- According to "The Bible" no woman is supposed to dress in any way to sexually attract men.  She went on national TV promoting her body in a sexual manner, half naked to attract men.  
If that's your standard, then no Christian woman could go to the beach or pool dress in the bikini she was in.  I guess she would need one of those 1920's style body suits. Nor could she dress attractively FOR HER MAN, should they go to dinner or a night out because other guys would look at her in lust.  I guess burkas should be the standard Christian attire then.  If you look at the context of what was written, it was addressing how women should dress in the presence of other christians, so as not to tempt other Christian men to lust.  I guess being on national TV could certainly do that, but as I said earlier, you'd have her in a burka based on your interpretation.  But point taken, no need for a woman to be showing all her assets while in church.  I'm there asking the Lord to have mercy, not "Lawd how mercayy!!"


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2-She got plastic surgery. According to "The Bible",  "you are to treat your body like a temple".  Surgery for cosmetic purposes (Boob Job) goes against "The Bible" directly.
uhmm, no. Look at the context again.  In that passage, Paul is talking about sexual immorality, and that a man should not have sex out of marriage, and certainly not with a non-Christian, particularly, a prostitute. The idea is that since the body is a temple, why join it with a non-believer, who's body is not a temple.  I don't see implants as being a defiling of the body, no more than laser eye surgery.

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3- Lied in her application.  Do I need to explain "The Lie"?

OK true, she did take those pics, and didn't tell anyone.  Wrong yes.  You want to condemn her for it?

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4- She judges everyone who favors same sex marriage.  Judging? What would Jesus do? Where in the new test does Jesus mention gay people?  Keep searching... he never did...
Judged?  She simply stated that for her, she believed marriage was between a man and a woman, just as Clinton, Gore, Kerry, and President Obama did.  She didn't say they were immoral, or going to hell. She gave her opinion.  Did Perez in turn judge her? Going out on her on his website.  Wasn't that even more a judgment, not only of her statement, but her character as a person?

As for what would Jesus do, or what did he say, you are correct, he didn't speak to homosexuality directly, though having said that, for those who believe that the Bible was devinely inspired by him (he's called the Word), he certainly addresses it elsewhere.  He inspired Paul to certainly write about it.  Again, that is, if you belief the Bible is the Word of God.

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Now, do i think any of these things above are BAD? NO, but when she starts preaching the whole "Christian Crap" you better not be a freggin hypocrite!
Christian Crap?.... did you just judge? To hold one to live out each line and letter of a doctrine is not what Christianity teaches.  It teaches the opposite that you can't. It's not about our perfection, it's about our imperfection and Jesus' perfection.

That being said, you could say that about any religion or philosphy.  Even as human beings, who say there is no God, break their own laws.  We'll do things to other people, that we don't like being done to us.  Hypocritical, yes.

Busted, no beef with you.  Just giving back on an opinion you gave.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Straw Man on May 12, 2009, 11:07:54 AM
First off, I think ALL Religious people are hypocrites. 

it's basically impossible not to be a hypocrite.  The only other option is absurd rationalization and theological contortions on one end of the spectrum and the Fred Phelps family and his ilk on the other end

most people fall into the broad hypocritical middle
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 12, 2009, 11:14:41 AM
Hypocrite...

Hey Busted in the Head - 

As far as being a hypocrite  goes, why don't you start with yourself?

You call other people "dumb" and can't even spell at a 3rd grade level. 
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: DAMY on May 12, 2009, 11:16:49 AM
LOL! I love the bullshit those Miss-Wherever contestants keep spouting.


I'm Karen, I speak four-hundred languages, I love meeting new people, I love to travel and absorb new cultures, I wanna be a goodwill ambassador and...


Yeah yeah, sit on my face, Honey.

Why don't they just say Hey judges, vote for me and I'll take your stump in my asscrack! Then when I win, I want to travel the world, blowing rich guys until I find one dumb enough to marry my hick ass.

girls.

But yeah, religious people are wankers.

Think about it. These people believe, or they claim to believe, in an invisible superior being, who watches our every move and knows our every thought.

So these people are either crazy or full of shit.

Faith! P-tooh!


DAMY
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: OzmO on May 12, 2009, 11:29:41 AM
First off, I think ALL Religious people are hypocrites.  Religion is a joke and brain washing for dumb people. Grown intelligent adults choose to follow the fictional book "The Bible", instead of using rational thinking. 

Why do I think Miss Cali is a hypocrite?

Well first off, shes a model.  A christian Model is like a "Kosher Pig farmer", in less you are a hypocrite. It's sad I know the bible better than these "Professional Christians".  Trying to get on TV like shes all squeaky clean.  Letting Michael Felps bust his nuts in her face. lol

1- According to "The Bible" no woman is supposed to dress in any way to sexually attract men.  She went on national TV promoting her body in a sexual manner, half naked to attract men. 

2-She got plastic surgery. According to "The Bible",  "you are to treat your body like a temple".  Surgery for cosmetic purposes (Boob Job) goes against "The Bible" directly.

3- Lied in her application.  Do I need to explain "The Lie"?

4- She judges everyone who favors same sex marriage.  Judging? What would Jesus do? Where in the new test does Jesus mention gay people?  Keep searching... he never did...

Now, do i think any of these things above are BAD? NO, but when she starts preaching the whole "Christian Crap" you better not be a freggin hypocrite!

PS, My father was a minister. I know the bible a little better than most.  :o)  It's a nice fictional book!



Still a good post even if you ignore points: 1 & 3 and the introduction. 
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: tonymctones on May 12, 2009, 11:35:39 AM
Still a good post even if you ignore points: 1 & 3 and the introduction. 
LOL no its not, its ignorant that passage can be interpreted in many different ways, alcohol to an extent is bad but weve been told that a glass of red wine a day is good, working out to a certain extent is bad etc...

4. who is she judging? and how? she isnt judging anybody she has a view that differs from others does that mean that all gay ppl are judging straight ppl?  ::) fuking idiocy...

Again busted is by far the most ignorant poster on getbig...his dad either took a literal interpretation of the bible or more likely wasnt a pastor at all...he is a moron
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: DAMY on May 12, 2009, 11:37:46 AM
I love it when people denounce religion!

Helps restore a little faith in human nature.


DAMY
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: OzmO on May 12, 2009, 11:38:44 AM
LOL no its not, its ignorant that passage can be interpreted in many different ways, alcohol to an extent is bad but weve been told that a glass of red wine a day is good, working out to a certain extent is bad etc...

4. who is she judging? and how? she isnt judging anybody she has a view that differs from others does that mean that all gay ppl are judging straight ppl?  ::) fuking idiocy...

Again busted is by far the most ignorant poster on getbig...his dad either took a literal interpretation of the bible or more likely wasnt a pastor at all...he is a moron

Didi Jesus denounce homosexuality?  Or was it that closet gay Paul?
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: DAMY on May 12, 2009, 11:39:42 AM
Howbout the vanity implicit in entering a beauty contest?

And fuck off, that's what Miss Any-State/Miss America/Miss World are.


DAMY
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: tonymctones on May 12, 2009, 11:43:23 AM
Didi Jesus denounce homosexuality?  Or was it that closet gay Paul?
Im not a biblical scolar im sure stella or mcway could give you an answer but that does not have anything to do with any of the ignorant points that were made by busteds...I assume youre getting at his point 4 which starts off with saying she judges ppl...please show me how she judges ppl?
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: OzmO on May 12, 2009, 11:47:23 AM
Im not a biblical scolar im sure stella or mcway could give you an answer but that does not have anything to do with any of the ignorant points that were made by busteds...I assume youre getting at his point 4 which starts off with saying she judges ppl...please show me how she judges ppl?

Everyone judges people.  Busted is saying that Jesus never said anything against homosexuals but she is.

Also, I'm not talking about his other posts.  I'm talking about this one.  Where he makes some good points.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: loco on May 12, 2009, 11:48:41 AM
LOL! I love the bullshit those Miss-Wherever contestants keep spouting.


I'm Karen, I speak four-hundred languages, I love meeting new people, I love to travel and absorb new cultures, I wanna be a goodwill ambassador and...


Yeah yeah, sit on my face, Honey.

Why don't they just say Hey judges, vote for me and I'll take your stump in my asscrack! Then when I win, I want to travel the world, blowing rich guys until I find one dumb enough to marry my hick ass.

girls.

But yeah, religious people are wankers.

Think about it. These people believe, or they claim to believe, in an invisible superior being, who watches our every move and knows our every thought.

So these people are either crazy or full of shit.


Faith! P-tooh!


DAMY

So DAMY, according to you the following scientists are "wankers", "crazy or full of shit"    ::)

Sir Ronald Fisher, Theodosius Dobzhansky, Arthur Peacocke, Russell Stannard, John Polkinghorne and Francis Collins.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: DAMY on May 12, 2009, 11:50:38 AM
So DAMY, according to you the following scientists are "wankers", "crazy or full of shit"    ::)

Sir Ronald Fisher, Theodosius Dobzhansky, Arthur Peacocke, Russell Stannard, John Polkinghorne and Francis Collins.


Yes.

Fuck you.


DAMY
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: bears on May 12, 2009, 11:50:45 AM
First off, I think ALL Religious people are hypocrites.  Religion is a joke and brain washing for dumb people. Grown intelligent adults choose to follow the fictional book "The Bible", instead of using rational thinking. 

Why do I think Miss Cali is a hypocrite?

Well first off, shes a model.  A christian Model is like a "Kosher Pig farmer", in less you are a hypocrite. It's sad I know the bible better than these "Professional Christians".  Trying to get on TV like shes all squeaky clean.  Letting Michael Felps bust his nuts in her face. lol

1- According to "The Bible" no woman is supposed to dress in any way to sexually attract men.  She went on national TV promoting her body in a sexual manner, half naked to attract men. 

2-She got plastic surgery. According to "The Bible",  "you are to treat your body like a temple".  Surgery for cosmetic purposes (Boob Job) goes against "The Bible" directly.

3- Lied in her application.  Do I need to explain "The Lie"?

4- She judges everyone who favors same sex marriage.  Judging? What would Jesus do? Where in the new test does Jesus mention gay people?  Keep searching... he never did...

Now, do i think any of these things above are BAD? NO, but when she starts preaching the whole "Christian Crap" you better not be a freggin hypocrite!

PS, My father was a minister. I know the bible a little better than most.  :o)  It's a nice fictional book!



it must be nice being you.  no one can ever call you a hypocrite because you believe in nothing.  you only believe in yourself.  you are TYPICAL.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: loco on May 12, 2009, 11:51:49 AM

Yes.

Fuck you.


DAMY

 ;D

God bless you, DAMY!
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: DAMY on May 12, 2009, 11:57:24 AM
Homo, your the-following-scientists post reminded me of shite I used to hear as a child, from family members and their gossip buddies.

Oh well, I don't go to church, but there's cleverer people than us who believe in it, so...


Classic working-class, low-self-worth bullshit, blind deference to any prick with a title or a degree suffixed to his/her name.

Look, Sir Knob-End has published an article in the New-England Wanker's Journal, pontificating about the existence of a God. Hey, that's good enough for me.


Sad prick.


DAMY
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: loco on May 12, 2009, 11:58:10 AM
Everyone judges people.  Busted is saying that Jesus never said anything against homosexuals but she is.

Also, I'm not talking about his other posts.  I'm talking about this one.  Where he makes some good points.

When did she say anything against homosexuals?  I thought she just said that she believed that marriage should be between a man and a woman.  Jesus said that too.  
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: tonymctones on May 12, 2009, 12:00:04 PM
Everyone judges people.  Busted is saying that Jesus never said anything against homosexuals but she is.

Also, I'm not talking about his other posts.  I'm talking about this one.  Where he makes some good points.
LOL OZ he is making horrible points they are the very essence of ignorance man...we have debunked everyone so far...First off you have to get past the very first ignorant point that she is a hypocrite b/c she is christian etc...christians SINNNNNNN it happens we know this, WE PREACH THISSSSS...her sinning is nothing more then afirmation that she is human, therefor sinning doesnt make a CHRISTIAN A HYPOCRITE...get it? This negates his entire post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Again im no biblical scholar

here are a few scriptures i was able to find i dont know who said them but from the bible none the less

Leviticus 18:22 - "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable."

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

Romans 1:26-27 - "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion."

Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: loco on May 12, 2009, 12:03:05 PM
Homo, your the-following-scientists post reminded me of shite I used to hear as a child, from family members and their gossip buddies.

Oh well, I don't go to church, but there's cleverer people than us who believe in it, so...


Classic working-class, low-self-worth bullshit, excessive deference to any #### with a title or a degree suffixed to his/her name.

Look, Sir Knob-End has published an article in the New-England Wanker's Journal, pontificating about the existence of a God. Hey, that's good enough for me.
Sad prick.


DAMY

Homo? As in homosexual?  No, I'm not a homosexual.  But if I were, you'd be the first to know.  I am flattered, but I don't swing that way.  

DAMY, you are one angry, hateful individual.  Do you know any other words besides the F word and besides the word "wanker"?     :)
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: loco on May 12, 2009, 12:07:39 PM
LOL OZ he is making horrible points they are the very essence of ignorance man...we have debunked everyone so far...First off you have to get past the very first ignorant point that she is a hypocrite b/c she is christian etc...christians SINNNNNNN it happens we know this, WE PREACH THISSSSS...her sinning is nothing more then afirmation that she is human, therefor sinning doesnt make a CHRISTIAN A HYPOCRITE...get it? This negates his entire post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Again im no biblical scholar

here are a few scriptures i was able to find i dont know who said them but from the bible none the less

Leviticus 18:22 - "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable."

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

Romans 1:26-27 - "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion."


Jesus to OzmO:

Matthew 19:4-5 (New International Version)

 4"Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' 5and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Benny B on May 12, 2009, 12:09:02 PM
Hypocrite...
Not a good idea to insult 60% of the American population, you jackass.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: DAMY on May 12, 2009, 12:09:30 PM
Homo? As in homosexual?  No, I'm not a homosexual.  But if I were, you'd be the first to know.  I am flattered, but I don't swing that way.  

DAMY, you are one angry, hateful individual.  Do you know any other words besides the F word and besides the word "wanker"?     :)


Yes, but these words and their ilk are my faves.

I would use the c-word, but this asshole board auto-censors it.

Prick.


DAMY
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: loco on May 12, 2009, 12:11:02 PM

Yes, but these words and their ilk are my faves.

I would use the c-word, but this asshole board auto-censors it.

Prick.


DAMY

I see you know the word "Prick" too.  Good for you, DAMY!   :)
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: DAMY on May 12, 2009, 12:12:39 PM
Man, your laid-back, accommodating approach to my bluster is really getting under my skin.

You're a genius.


DAMY
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: OzmO on May 12, 2009, 12:14:52 PM
Jesus to OzmO:

Matthew 19:4-5 (New International Version)

 4"Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' 5and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?

Thank you loco.

So if you don't become one flesh with a woman you are committing a sin?
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: tonymctones on May 12, 2009, 12:20:00 PM
Thank you loco.

So if you don't become one flesh with a woman you are committing a sin?
what does that matter oz? again sinning is part of being a christian this is what is taught to christians so how is sinning being a hypocrite...christians struggle against sin it is never said that christians DONT sin, this negates busteds entire point
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: loco on May 12, 2009, 12:25:02 PM
Thank you loco.

So if you don't become one flesh with a woman you are committing a sin?

You are welcome!

Marrying a woman and then intentionally never having sex with her, not even once?  According to the Bible, yes, that is a sin.  But what does that have to do with Miss Cali?  Just curious?
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: OzmO on May 12, 2009, 12:27:06 PM
what does that matter oz? again sinning is part of being a christian this is what is taught to christians so how is sinning being a hypocrite...christians struggle against sin it is never said that christians DONT sin, this negates busteds entire point

Actually that comment is indirectly asking if that verse is even talking about marriage and if one doesn't marry or become "one flesh" if they are committing a sin.

Yes, if you are a Christian you struggle against sin. Miss Cali suggested that gay marriage is wrong by saying marriage should only be between a man and a woman because of the recent debate/vote on the subject.  It was a judgment, even though it was indirect.

I applaud her making the statement BTW.  Even if i don't care.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: OzmO on May 12, 2009, 12:29:52 PM
You are welcome!

Marrying a woman and then intentionally never having sex with her, not even once?  According to the Bible, yes, that is a sin.  But what does that have to do with Miss Cali?  Just curious?

Nothing, I thought you brought up the verse because i said i didn't Jesus said anything against homosexuality.  I took "one with the flesh" as being of one entity as married couple does things as a couple, as one.  Your explanation of it makes more sense.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: tonymctones on May 12, 2009, 12:32:25 PM
Actually that comment is indirectly asking if that verse is even talking about marriage and if one doesn't marry or become "one flesh" if they are committing a sin.

Yes, if you are a Christian you struggle against sin. Miss Cali suggested that gay marriage is wrong by saying marriage should only be between a man and a woman because of the recent debate/vote on the subject.  It was a judgment, even though it was indirect.

I applaud her making the statement BTW.  Even if i don't care.
again busteds ignorant ass point that you defend is she is a hypocrite b/c she is a CHRISTIAN AND SAID THIS...even if she was wrong and sinned that wouldnt make her a hypocrite b/c as we know that as a christian you will sin its not debateable....I.E. she is not a hypocrite for sinning she is a Christian...

Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: OzmO on May 12, 2009, 12:34:54 PM
again busteds ignorant ass point that you defend is she is a hypocrite b/c she is a CHRISTIAN AND SAID THIS...even if she was wrong and sinned that wouldnt make her a hypocrite b/c as we know that as a christian you will sin its not debateable....I.E. she is not a hypocrite for sinning she is a Christian...

And said what?
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: tonymctones on May 12, 2009, 12:38:36 PM
And said what?
well the one you wanted to focus on was #4 so apparently let say what she said to make ppl think she was judging ppl...

but again it doesnt matter my point negates busteds ignorant first premise which makes all subsequent statments invalid...
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: OzmO on May 12, 2009, 12:43:28 PM
again busteds ignorant ass point that you defend is she is a hypocrite b/c she is a CHRISTIAN AND SAID THIS...even if she was wrong and sinned that wouldnt make her a hypocrite b/c as we know that as a christian you will sin its not debateable....I.E. she is not a hypocrite for sinning she is a Christian...



well the one you wanted to focus on was #4 so apparently let say what she said to make ppl think she was judging ppl...

but again it doesnt matter my point negates busteds ignorant first premise which makes all subsequent statments invalid...





Why do I think Miss Cali is a hypocrite?

Well first off, shes a model. 

1- According to "The Bible" no woman is supposed to dress in any way to sexually attract men.  She went on national TV promoting her body in a sexual manner, half naked to attract men.

2-She got plastic surgery. According to "The Bible",  "you are to treat your body like a temple".  Surgery for cosmetic purposes (Boob Job) goes against "The Bible" directly.

She's selling her body and looks sexually.  That's hypocritical IMO. It may not be in other people's opinion.  I just happen to agree.

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3- Lied in her application.  Do I need to explain "The Lie"?

nuff said, if it's true.

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4- She judges everyone who favors same sex marriage.  Judging? What would Jesus do? Where in the new test does Jesus mention gay people?  Keep searching... he never did...

If #4 is the weakest argument to her being a hypocrite in your eyes, then fine.  The rest is still good.

But I don't for one second believe she's a Christian on the level.

Also regarding sinning christians:

If they sin the same sin over and over again, they are hypocrites.   For example:  A person goes to bible study on Wednesday, church every Sunday, but commits adultery every other day of the week.  Miss California is a model that sells sex.  It's her chosen profession.






Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: tonymctones on May 12, 2009, 12:50:24 PM



She's selling her body and looks sexually.  That's hypocritical IMO. It may not be in other people's opinion.  I just happen to agree.

nuff said, if it's true.

If #4 is the weakest argument to her being a hypocrite in your eyes, then fine.  The rest is still good.

But I don't for one second believe she's a Christian on the level.

Also regarding sinning christians:

If they sin the same sin over and over again, they are hypocrites.   For example:  A person goes to bible study on Wednesday, church every Sunday, but commits adultery every other day of the week.  Miss California is a model that sells sex.  It's her chosen profession.
OZ your missing the point bro he said she is a hypocrite b/c she is a christian and has sinned or gone against what the bible says. the bible never said that ppl will not sin, in fact is says that we as ppl will sin therefor her sinning doesnt make her a hypocrite do you understand?

She doesnt sell sex, she uses sex appeal to sell things different...you example is crap again it never said you wont sin the same sin more then once...gezz louise man sinning doesnt make a christian a hypocrite.

you can call her a hypocrite for saying one thing and doing another fine but you cant call her a hypocrite for being a christian and sinning like busteds dumb ass did...her being a hypocrite in your eyes has nothing to do with being a christian  ::)
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: loco on May 12, 2009, 12:51:54 PM

She's selling her body and looks sexually.  That's hypocritical IMO. It may not be in other people's opinion.  I just happen to agree.

nuff said, if it's true.

If #4 is the weakest argument to her being a hypocrite in your eyes, then fine.  The rest is still good.

But I don't for one second believe she's a Christian on the level.

Also regarding sinning christians:

If they sin the same sin over and over again, they are hypocrites.   For example:  A person goes to bible study on Wednesday, church every Sunday, but commits adultery every other day of the week.  

That's not Biblical, nor is it what Christianity teaches.  But if it's your opinion, you're entitled to it.

And for you or for me to say that a person who claims to be a Christian is or isn't a Christian, isn't that judging?  Isn't that between the person claiming to be a Christian and Jesus Christ?

Miss California is a model that sells sex.  It's her chosen profession.

Selling sex?  Is she a prostitute?  I thought she was a "beauty" pageant contestant.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: OzmO on May 12, 2009, 12:57:42 PM
That's not Biblical, nor is it what Christianity teaches.  But if it's your opinion, you're entitled to it.

And for you or for me to say that a person who claims to be a Christian is or isn't a Christian, isn't that judging?  Isn't that between the person claiming to be a Christian and Jesus Christ?

Selling sex?  Is she a prostitute?  I thought she was a "beauty" pageant contestant.

"Selling sex"  doesn't mean just selling sex as a prostitute.  Maybe using sex to sell is a better way to say it.

And yes, a person that teaches or professes a moral course of action but yet continually does the opposite is by definition a hypocrite whether its judging a person or not.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: tonymctones on May 12, 2009, 01:00:15 PM
OZ your missing the point bro he said she is a hypocrite b/c she is a christian and has sinned or gone against what the bible says. the bible never said that ppl will not sin, in fact is says that we as ppl will sin therefor her sinning doesnt make her a hypocrite do you understand?

Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Dos Equis on May 12, 2009, 01:01:02 PM
First off, I think ALL Religious people are hypocrites.  Religion is a joke and brain washing for dumb people. Grown intelligent adults choose to follow the fictional book "The Bible", instead of using rational thinking. 

Why do I think Miss Cali is a hypocrite?

Well first off, shes a model.  A christian Model is like a "Kosher Pig farmer", in less you are a hypocrite. It's sad I know the bible better than these "Professional Christians".  Trying to get on TV like shes all squeaky clean.  Letting Michael Felps bust his nuts in her face. lol

1- According to "The Bible" no woman is supposed to dress in any way to sexually attract men.  She went on national TV promoting her body in a sexual manner, half naked to attract men. 

2-She got plastic surgery. According to "The Bible",  "you are to treat your body like a temple".  Surgery for cosmetic purposes (Boob Job) goes against "The Bible" directly.

3- Lied in her application.  Do I need to explain "The Lie"?

4- She judges everyone who favors same sex marriage.  Judging? What would Jesus do? Where in the new test does Jesus mention gay people?  Keep searching... he never did...

Now, do i think any of these things above are BAD? NO, but when she starts preaching the whole "Christian Crap" you better not be a freggin hypocrite!

PS, My father was a minister. I know the bible a little better than most.  :o)  It's a nice fictional book!



Absurd.  For the reasons stated by everyone else.   :)
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: OzmO on May 12, 2009, 01:01:13 PM
OZ your missing the point bro he said she is a hypocrite b/c she is a christian and has sinned or gone against what the bible says. the bible never said that ppl will not sin, in fact is says that we as ppl will sin therefor her sinning doesnt make her a hypocrite do you understand?

She doesnt sell sex, she uses sex appeal to sell things different...you example is crap again it never said you wont sin the same sin more then once...gezz louise man sinning doesnt make a christian a hypocrite.

you can call her a hypocrite for saying one thing and doing another fine but you cant call her a hypocrite for being a christian and sinning like busteds dumb ass did...her being a hypocrite in your eyes has nothing to do with being a christian  ::)

Sorry man, I agree with busted here.  If she's using sex to sell then she's being a hypocrite if she is also a Christian.  I'm not talking about a moment of weakness, I'm talking about continual choices.  
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: loco on May 12, 2009, 01:17:50 PM
"Selling sex"  doesn't mean just selling sex as a prostitute.  Maybe using sex to sell is a better way to say it.

I don't think so, but I know some Christians who would agree with you.  There are Christians who believe that Christians should not participate in modeling or beauty pageants.  But then again, there are Christians who believe that Christians should not be bodybuilders, or police officers, or soldiers, or judges.  I don't agree, and I don't see Biblical basis for any of this.  

Miss Cali. is not a hypocrite for doing any of this if she doesn't believe that it is a sin and if she sees no Biblical basis for it.  

And yes, a person that teaches or professes a moral course of action but yet continually does the opposite is by definition a hypocrite whether its judging a person or not.

Actually, the word hypocrite comes from the Greek word for "actor."  If a person claims to be a Christian, and "pretends" to be a Christian, knowing that he/she is not a Christian, then he/she is a hypocrite.  

Likewise, if a person teaches or professes a moral course of action, not really believing in such and fully knowing that he/she wouldn't even attemp to follow that moral course of action, then he/she is a hypocrite.

But a person who teaches or professes a moral course of action is NOT a hypocrite IF he/she truly believes in that moral course of action and attempts to follow it, no matter how many times he/she fails.

I know many parents who chose not to go to college or dropped out of college, only to regret it later in life.  They now tell their children that they must go to college.  Are those parents hypocrites?  I don't think so.

Is Miss Cali. a hypocrite?  Not by what you and Busted are charging her with.  She might be if she was going around telling other girls that being a model or that being in a beauty pageant is a sin.

Is she a hypocrite in my opinion?  I don't know because I do not know her heart.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Dos Equis on May 12, 2009, 01:25:25 PM
I don't think so, but I know some Christians who would agree with you.  There are Christians who believe that Christians should not participate in modeling or beauty events.  But then again, there are Christians who believe that Christians should not be bodybuilders, or police officers, or soldiers, or judges.  I don't agree, and I don't see Biblical basis for any of this.  

Miss Cali. is not a hypocrite for doing any of this if she doesn't believe that it is a sin and if she sees no Biblical basis for it.  

Actually, the word hypocrite comes from the Greek word for "actor."  If a person claims to be a Christian, and "pretends" to be a Christian, knowing that he/she is not a Christian, then he/she is a hypocrite.  

Likewise, if a person teaches or professes a moral course of action, not really believing in such and fully knowing that he/she wouldn't even attemp to follow that moral course of action, then he/she is a hypocrite.

Is Miss Cali. a hypocrite?  Not by what you and Busted are charging her with.  She might be if she was going around telling other girls that being a model or that being in a beauty pageant is a sin.

Is she a hypocrite in my opinion?  I don't know because I do not know her heart.

Exactly.  People misuse the word all the time.  A hypocrite is someone who doesn't practice what they preach.  That's not what this woman is doing. 
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: OzmO on May 12, 2009, 02:16:07 PM
I don't think so, but I know some Christians who would agree with you.  There are Christians who believe that Christians should not participate in modeling or beauty pageants.  But then again, there are Christians who believe that Christians should not be bodybuilders, or police officers, or soldiers, or judges.  I don't agree, and I don't see Biblical basis for any of this.  

Miss Cali. is not a hypocrite for doing any of this if she doesn't believe that it is a sin and if she sees no Biblical basis for it.  

Actually, the word hypocrite comes from the Greek word for "actor."  If a person claims to be a Christian, and "pretends" to be a Christian, knowing that he/she is not a Christian, then he/she is a hypocrite.  

Likewise, if a person teaches or professes a moral course of action, not really believing in such and fully knowing that he/she wouldn't even attemp to follow that moral course of action, then he/she is a hypocrite.

But a person who teaches or professes a moral course of action is NOT a hypocrite IF he/she truly believes in that moral course of action and attempts to follow it, no matter how many times he/she fails.

I know many parents who chose not to go to college or dropped out of college, only to regret it later in life.  They now tell their children that they must go to college.  Are those parents hypocrites?  I don't think so.

Is Miss Cali. a hypocrite?  Not by what you and Busted are charging her with.  She might be if she was going around telling other girls that being a model or that being in a beauty pageant is a sin.

Is she a hypocrite in my opinion?  I don't know because I do not know her heart.

I agree, we don't know what's in her heart.  But based on what we do know I disagree with you. 

HEre's what the definition says:

1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings




Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: loco on May 12, 2009, 02:37:27 PM
I agree, we don't know what's in her heart.  But based on what we do know I disagree with you. 

HEre's what the definition says:

1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings


2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

I don't know that much about her really.  Did she state her beliefs and feelings, other than marriage should be between a man and a woman?

Did she state that it is her belief or that it is her feeling that being a model or that being in a beauty pageant is a sin?  If not, then she is not a hypocrite by your own definition.

Actually, I admire her for making a statement that goes in line with her beliefs and with her feelings, and it also goes in line with what Jesus said about marriage.  That is the opposite of hypocrisy.  Had she stood there, believing and "feeling" that marriage should be between a man and a woman, yet saying the opposite just to please the judges and just to win a beauty pageant, then she would have been a hypocrite, by any definition.

She is being accused of being judgemental, yet people are judging her and attacking her for being honest and showing integrity.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: tonymctones on May 12, 2009, 02:46:39 PM
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

I don't know that much about her really.  Did she state her beliefs and feelings, other than marriage should be between a man and a woman?

Did she state that it is her belief or that it is her feeling that being a model or that being in a beauty pageant is a sin?  If not, then she is not a hypocrite by your own definition.

Actually, I admire her for making a statement that goes in line with her beliefs and with her feelings, and it also goes in line with what Jesus said about marriage.  That is the opposite of hypocrisy.  Had she stood there, believing and "feeling" that marriage should be between a man and a woman, yet saying the opposite just to please the judges and just to win a beauty pageant, then she would have been a hypocrite, by any definition.

She is being accused of being judgemental, yet people are judging her and attacking her for being honest and showing integrity.
;)
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Dos Equis on May 12, 2009, 03:44:59 PM
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

I don't know that much about her really.  Did she state her beliefs and feelings, other than marriage should be between a man and a woman?

Did she state that it is her belief or that it is her feeling that being a model or that being in a beauty pageant is a sin?  If not, then she is not a hypocrite by your own definition.

Actually, I admire her for making a statement that goes in line with her beliefs and with her feelings, and it also goes in line with what Jesus said about marriage.  That is the opposite of hypocrisy.  Had she stood there, believing and "feeling" that marriage should be between a man and a woman, yet saying the opposite just to please the judges and just to win a beauty pageant, then she would have been a hypocrite, by any definition.

She is being accused of being judgemental, yet people are judging her and attacking her for being honest and showing integrity.

I agree. 
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: OzmO on May 12, 2009, 04:03:43 PM
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

I don't know that much about her really.  Did she state her beliefs and feelings, other than marriage should be between a man and a woman?

Did she state that it is her belief or that it is her feeling that being a model or that being in a beauty pageant is a sin?  If not, then she is not a hypocrite by your own definition.

Actually, I admire her for making a statement that goes in line with her beliefs and with her feelings, and it also goes in line with what Jesus said about marriage.  That is the opposite of hypocrisy.  Had she stood there, believing and "feeling" that marriage should be between a man and a woman, yet saying the opposite just to please the judges and just to win a beauty pageant, then she would have been a hypocrite, by any definition.

She is being accused of being judgemental, yet people are judging her and attacking her for being honest and showing integrity.

I admire her for making her statement also.  We don't know the extent or details of her faith or belief int he Bible and salvation.  However, If she's a professed Christian she's being a hypocrite IMO.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: a_joker10 on May 12, 2009, 04:11:40 PM
I admire her for making her statement also.  We don't know the extent or details of her faith or belief int he Bible and salvation.  However, If she's a professed Christian she's being a hypocrite IMO.

Her modeling is not a sin and admiring beauty is not a sin.

The sinner is the person lusting after her.

Matthew 5
27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Busted on May 12, 2009, 04:12:29 PM
Interesting! 

Busted, what denomination was your father when he was a minister?

Also, do you believe it is wrong for Christians to get braces on their teeth soley for cosmetic purposes?  Thanks!





Your comparing Braces to getting someones BOOBS bigger to win a contest?
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: tonymctones on May 12, 2009, 04:14:06 PM
Your comparing Braces to getting someones BOOBS bigger to win a contest?
both are in the attempt to look better or vanity which is why you were against boob jobs isnt it? you think that having metal wires fixed to your gums and teeth is good for the body?
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Busted on May 12, 2009, 04:18:29 PM
it must be nice being you.  no one can ever call you a hypocrite because you believe in nothing.  you only believe in yourself.  you are TYPICAL.

I'm realistic.  I don't claim to know what happens when we die like all the rest of the religious nut jobs. 
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Busted on May 12, 2009, 04:19:16 PM
When did she say anything against homosexuals?  I thought she just said that she believed that marriage should be between a man and a woman.  Jesus said that too.  

No he didn't.  If you are going to talk about Biblical facts, get them RIGHT.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: w8tlftr on May 12, 2009, 04:20:53 PM
All this fuss over the opinion of a beauty pageant contestant because some knob gobbler didn't like her answer.

President Obama holds the same point of view as Miss Undies model. So what?

Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: tonymctones on May 12, 2009, 04:23:05 PM
All this fuss over the opinion of a beauty pageant contestant because some knob gobbler didn't like her answer.

President Obama holds the same point of view as Miss Undies model. So what?


LOL you forget that lefties cant insult or criticize barry they spent a year passing him off as the savior...
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: OzmO on May 12, 2009, 04:24:19 PM
Her modeling is not a sin and admiring beauty is not a sin.

The sinner is the person lusting after her.

Matthew 5
27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.

I disagree.   It could be said she's defiling her self and defiling others.  (I don't agree she is, but based on her stated religion she I believe she is)

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/05/07/amd_miss_cali.jpg)
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: w8tlftr on May 12, 2009, 04:26:29 PM
I disagree.   I could be said she's defiling her self and defiling others.  (I don't agree she is, but based on her stated religion she I believe she is)

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/05/07/amd_miss_cali.jpg)

Woot! Christian chicks are hot!
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: OzmO on May 12, 2009, 04:27:40 PM
Woot! Christian chicks are hot!
Believe that!
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Busted on May 12, 2009, 04:28:23 PM
again busteds ignorant ass point that you defend is she is a hypocrite b/c she is a CHRISTIAN AND SAID THIS...even if she was wrong and sinned that wouldnt make her a hypocrite b/c as we know that as a christian you will sin its not debateable....I.E. she is not a hypocrite for sinning she is a Christian...



No you ass fuck.   I have NO problems with the things she said or did.  But once she starts PREACHING to us about CHRISTIANITY and shes a BIG FUCKIN HYPOCRITE, I have a problem with it. For her to be on a national stage preaching her "Christian Faith", when the whole reason shes even on the national spotlight is 1 big ass SIN according to the Bible.  Shes on National TV Flaunting her half naked body, after she got sexual implants, lied, took naked pics, judged others, and then spoke out against other people wanting to be happy with their lives.

According to the Bible NO WOMAN is SUPPOSED to dress in a way to SEXUALLY ATTRACT MEN.

What would Jesus say?
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: OzmO on May 12, 2009, 04:29:25 PM
both are in the attempt to look better or vanity which is why you were against boob jobs isnt it? you think that having metal wires fixed to your gums and teeth is good for the body?

Teeth aren't typically considered to be a sexual zone on the body
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Dos Equis on May 12, 2009, 04:30:20 PM
No you ass fuck.   I have NO problems with the things she said or did.  But once she starts PREACHING to us about CHRISTIANITY and shes a BIG FUCKIN HYPOCRITE, I have a problem with it. For her to be on a national stage preaching her "Christian Faith", when the whole reason shes even on the national spotlight is 1 big ass SIN according to the Bible.  Shes on National TV Flaunting her half naked body, after she got sexual implants, lied, took naked pics, judged others, and then spoke out against other people wanting to be happy with their lives.

According to the Bible NO WOMAN is SUPPOSED to dress in a way to SEXUALLY ATTRACT MEN.

What would Jesus say?

Look at what a beautiful creature I created.  I did good with this one. 
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Busted on May 12, 2009, 04:30:37 PM
both are in the attempt to look better or vanity which is why you were against boob jobs isnt it? you think that having metal wires fixed to your gums and teeth is good for the body?

So would you compare braces to getting a cock implant?
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Busted on May 12, 2009, 04:31:39 PM
LOL you forget that lefties cant insult or criticize barry they spent a year passing him off as the savior...

No intelligent adults are tired of religious nut jobs pushing their religious beliefs on us.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: OzmO on May 12, 2009, 04:32:33 PM
I think i see what you guys mean.   :-[
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Hereford on May 12, 2009, 04:35:54 PM
No intelligent adults are tired of religious nut jobs pushing their religious beliefs on us.

As opposed to the enlightenment you lefties are always trying to push on us?

C'mon brah...  ::)
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Dos Equis on May 12, 2009, 04:38:37 PM
No intelligent adults are tired of religious nut jobs pushing their religious beliefs on us.

Baloney.  The woman isn't pushing her beliefs on anyone.  If you don't like what she has to say, turn the channel. 

Liberals and anti-religious extremists often talk about censorship. 
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: tonymctones on May 12, 2009, 05:00:18 PM
Teeth aren't typically considered to be a sexual zone on the body
that has nothing to do with his point that the body is a temple etc...he was against boob jobs b/c its plastic surgery and the body is a temple, you think fixing metal wires to your gums and teeth is good for your mouth? nooooo and its cosmetic just like boob jobs are so if your against boob jobs for his stated reasons LOGICALLY i know busted has a problem with this he has to be against braces etc....

Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: tonymctones on May 12, 2009, 05:02:12 PM
So would you compare braces to getting a cock implant?
according to your ignorance yea it is, although cock implants are more practical i would say...

you were against boob jobs b/c its plastic surgery and its for cosmetic purposes...so please explain how braces are different
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Deicide on May 12, 2009, 05:04:31 PM
No intelligent adults are tired of religious nut jobs pushing their religious beliefs on us.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: OzmO on May 12, 2009, 05:12:18 PM
that has nothing to do with his point that the body is a temple etc...he was against boob jobs b/c its plastic surgery and the body is a temple, you think fixing metal wires to your gums and teeth is good for your mouth? nooooo and its cosmetic just like boob jobs are so if your against boob jobs for his stated reasons LOGICALLY i know busted has a problem with this he has to be against braces etc....



Boobs are cosmetic?    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH


Boob jobs are done so women can be more attractive sexually.

Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: DAMY on May 12, 2009, 05:19:15 PM
Absurd.  For the reasons stated by everyone else.   :)


Monster insecure crowd-gathering.


DAMY
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: tonymctones on May 12, 2009, 05:19:25 PM
Boobs are cosmetic?    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH


Boob jobs are done so women can be more attractive sexually.


yeaaaaa...which makes them cosmetic..... ???
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: DAMY on May 12, 2009, 05:23:28 PM
Baloney.  The woman isn't pushing her beliefs on anyone.  If you don't like what she has to say, turn the channel

Liberals and anti-religious extremists often talk about censorship. 



Turn the channel!

Yeah, hold on while I get my 1970s manual-tuning-knob TV set outa my grandfather's attic.


DAMY
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: DAMY on May 12, 2009, 05:32:10 PM
Her modeling is not a sin and admiring beauty is not a sin.

The sinner is the person lusting after her.

Matthew 5
27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.


True, admiring beauty is not a sin, but surely Jesus would've turned up his nose at me smearing my cock against the TV screen during Charlie's Angels re-runs.

At the very least, Aaron Spelling would be turning in his tomb!


And I'm sure my right hand would go straight to hell for whacking one off the wrist to Cheryl Ladd on roller boots! Wooo-hooo-fuckin'-hooooo!


DAMY
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Dos Equis on May 12, 2009, 05:32:53 PM



Turn the channel!

Yeah, hold on while I get my 1970s manual-tuning-knob TV set outa my grandfather's attic.


DAMY

 ::)
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: DAMY on May 12, 2009, 05:34:50 PM
::)


Well shit, that's me chastened!!!

The dreaded rolling eyes! Damn, I'm sorry! Don't hurt me, will ya!?


DAMY
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: DAMY on May 12, 2009, 05:36:47 PM
yeaaaaa...which makes them cosmetic..... ???

Tony, this guy probably thinks 'cosmetic' means make-up, like a Leeza Gibbons infomercial.

Idiot!


DAMY
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Dos Equis on May 12, 2009, 05:37:16 PM

Well sheit, that's me chastened!!!

The dreaded rolling eyes! Damn, I'm sorry! Don't hurt me, will ya!?


DAMY

 ::) ::)  Troll.  
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: OzmO on May 12, 2009, 05:38:25 PM
yeaaaaa...which makes them cosmetic..... ???

Was the intent cosmetic or enhanced sexuality and attractiveness? 

com on.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: tonymctones on May 12, 2009, 05:41:42 PM
Was the intent cosmetic or enhanced sexuality and attractiveness? 

com on.
ahhh its intent was to enhance the comestic apperance of the tits to enhance attractiveness ??? i think your getting tripped up on definition of terms...
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Dos Equis on May 12, 2009, 05:45:15 PM
Was the intent cosmetic or enhanced sexuality and attractiveness? 

com on.

Trying to make yourself look good isn't a sin.  That's often what men and women do when they have cosmetic/plastic surgery. 
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: DAMY on May 12, 2009, 05:47:07 PM
ahhh its intent was to enhance the comestic apperance of the tits to enhance attractiveness ??? i think your getting tripped up on definition of terms...


Yeah, strawman bullshit, try to get 'em tied up in semantic knots.


DAMY
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: OzmO on May 12, 2009, 05:54:49 PM
ahhh its intent was to enhance the comestic apperance of the tits to enhance attractiveness ??? i think your getting tripped up on definition of terms...


The intent of fixing the appearance of teeth versus tits are 2 different things.

Women make their tits bigger to be more sexually attractive.  They don't do that solely with their teeth.



This is getting ridiculous.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Dos Equis on May 12, 2009, 06:01:26 PM

The intent of fixing the appearance of teeth versus tits are 2 different things.

Women make their tits bigger to be more sexually attractive.  They don't do that solely with their teeth.



This is getting ridiculous.

Really?  You don't think some women use smiles to make themselves look more attractive?  Or even to flirt?   

What about a woman working on her legs?  Arms?  Abs? 
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Cap on May 12, 2009, 06:02:44 PM
First off, I think ALL Religious people are hypocrites.  Religion is a joke and brain washing for dumb people. Grown intelligent adults choose to follow the fictional book "The Bible", instead of using rational thinking. 

Why do I think Miss Cali is a hypocrite?

Well first off, shes a model.  A christian Model is like a "Kosher Pig farmer", in less you are a hypocrite. It's sad I know the bible better than these "Professional Christians".  Trying to get on TV like shes all squeaky clean.  Letting Michael Felps bust his nuts in her face. lol

1- According to "The Bible" no woman is supposed to dress in any way to sexually attract men.  She went on national TV promoting her body in a sexual manner, half naked to attract men. 

2-She got plastic surgery. According to "The Bible",  "you are to treat your body like a temple".  Surgery for cosmetic purposes (Boob Job) goes against "The Bible" directly.

3- Lied in her application.  Do I need to explain "The Lie"?

4- She judges everyone who favors same sex marriage.  Judging? What would Jesus do? Where in the new test does Jesus mention gay people?  Keep searching... he never did...

Now, do i think any of these things above are BAD? NO, but when she starts preaching the whole "Christian Crap" you better not be a freggin hypocrite!

PS, My father was a minister. I know the bible a little better than most.  :o)  It's a nice fictional book!


Sounds like you liberals are very unaccepting and close minded.  I thought that was supposed to be the conservative Republicans.  I wouldn't go too far with this one because it's likely to open pandora's box with every post you make.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: w8tlftr on May 12, 2009, 06:02:48 PM

The intent of fixing the appearance of teeth versus tits are 2 different things.

Women make their tits bigger to be more sexually attractive.  They don't do that solely with their teeth.



This is getting ridiculous.

A woman with a messed up grill is NOT sexually attractive.

Getting braces to straighten teeth and have a nice smile makes them more attractive.

Getting a boob job to have a firm and plump rack makes them more attractive.

They are both part of the overall package.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: DAMY on May 12, 2009, 06:04:15 PM
Yup.

I'd say that ANY physical enhancement procedure or activity, is at least partly sexually motivated.


DAMY
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: tonymctones on May 12, 2009, 06:05:07 PM

The intent of fixing the appearance of teeth versus tits are 2 different things.

Women make their tits bigger to be more sexually attractive.  They don't do that solely with their teeth.



This is getting ridiculous.
neither of that matters busteds problem with it is that it was a cosmetic change done for vanity which goes against treating the body like a temple...first of all i dont agree with that being not treating the body like a temple

But anyway pls explain to me how braces arent used as a cosmetic procedure and how attaching metal wires to your gums and teeth are good for your body?

youre right this whole thing is ridiculous

As weightlifter said BARRACK OBAMA SAID HE BELIEVES THAT MARRIAGE IS BETWEEN A MAN AND WOMAN, why not outrage at him?
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: drkaje on May 12, 2009, 06:07:18 PM
Her earning this level of scrutiny for respectfully disagreeing (publicly) on the subject of gay marriage is hilarious.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: w8tlftr on May 12, 2009, 06:12:12 PM
As weightlifter said BARRACK OBAMA SAID HE BELIEVES THAT MARRIAGE IS BETWEEN A MAN AND WOMAN, why not outrage at him?

Because Miss Undies Model is an easy target and it's in poor taste for Obama-Bots to question the chosen one.

While I disagree with Miss. Cali's statement it's her opinion (I think everyone, straight or gay, should enjoy the marriage penalty) and she's entitled to it. Hilton is just throwing a hissy fit because he got an answer he didn't like. Though shit. Life is full of disappointment.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Butterbean on May 12, 2009, 06:27:28 PM
Your comparing Braces to getting someones BOOBS bigger to win a contest?

So do you think it's wrong for Christians to get braces on their teeth soley for cosmetic purposes?

Also, what about Christians dying their hair to cover the grey or change the color?



I didn't see if you answered ........ what denomination your father was when he was a minister?



Also, when you have time, could you please respond to the follow-up questions in the following thread?   I'm not flaming you...I am just curious as to your perspective on some things (also Hedge had posted some interesting info you may want to read).
 
 http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=276869.0
 
Thanks!
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Cap on May 12, 2009, 06:30:57 PM
I think it's funny how threatened people are by this woman.  The majority of black people in CA voted against gay marriage but I don't see the gays, Perez Hilton included, taking up arms against them.  Funny how that works.  It's okay for blacks to be bigoted but not Mormons or this pageant girl.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: tonymctones on May 12, 2009, 06:32:47 PM
I think it's funny how threatened people are by this woman.  The majority of black people in CA voted against gay marriage but I don't see the gays, Perez Hilton included, taking up arms against them.  Funny how that works.  It's okay for blacks to be bigoted but not Mormons or this pageant girl.
shes part of the majority as they see it, makes it ok...
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Butterbean on May 12, 2009, 06:33:40 PM
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

I don't know that much about her really.  Did she state her beliefs and feelings, other than marriage should be between a man and a woman?

Did she state that it is her belief or that it is her feeling that being a model or that being in a beauty pageant is a sin?  If not, then she is not a hypocrite by your own definition.

Actually, I admire her for making a statement that goes in line with her beliefs and with her feelings, and it also goes in line with what Jesus said about marriage.  That is the opposite of hypocrisy.  Had she stood there, believing and "feeling" that marriage should be between a man and a woman, yet saying the opposite just to please the judges and just to win a beauty pageant, then she would have been a hypocrite, by any definition.

She is being accused of being judgemental, yet people are judging her and attacking her for being honest and showing integrity.

You write some excellent posts loco!



Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: pumphard on May 12, 2009, 06:33:47 PM
4- She judges everyone who favors same sex marriage.  Judging? What would Jesus do? Where in the new test does Jesus mention gay people?  Keep searching... he never did...


PS, My father was a minister. I know the bible a little better than most.  :o)  It's a nice fictional book!


She never judged anyone, she just said she didn't agree with it.  Whats your hang up with religion, nobody's telling you what to believe in, you lead your life anyway you see fit, despite what your minister father tried to teach you.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Cap on May 12, 2009, 06:34:18 PM
shes part of the majority as they see it, makes it ok...
Haha, major bullshit if you ask me on their part.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: w8tlftr on May 12, 2009, 06:34:55 PM
I think it's funny how threatened people are by this woman.  The majority of black people in CA voted against gay marriage but I don't see the gays, Perez Hilton included, taking up arms against them.  Funny how that works.  It's okay for blacks to be bigoted but not Mormons or this pageant girl.

Blacks and hispanics will kick your ass, knife you, then frak your woman if you mess with them.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: pumphard on May 12, 2009, 06:37:21 PM
Blacks and hispanics will kick your ass, knife you, then frak your woman if you mess with them.
Thats cause they can't fight................... ....
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: OzmO on May 12, 2009, 06:38:09 PM
neither of that matters busteds problem with it is that it was a cosmetic change done for vanity which goes against treating the body like a temple...first of all i dont agree with that being not treating the body like a temple

But anyway pls explain to me how braces arent used as a cosmetic procedure and how attaching metal wires to your gums and teeth are good for your body?

youre right this whole thing is ridiculous

As weightlifter said BARRACK OBAMA SAID HE BELIEVES THAT MARRIAGE IS BETWEEN A MAN AND WOMAN, why not outrage at him?

I'm not really outraged either way.  I don't care about the gay marriage thing that much.  I think its a waste of time and money.  How do i feel about it?  What side am i on?  I really don't care.  I think if gays want to call themselves married they should be able to.  Do I think its worth all this hoopla over it in the media and in state congresses?  No.  But I'm not gay looking to have a state sactified marriage.

Braces aren't permanent.  The effects are.  They straighten your teeth.  Breast implants are permanent and make more men wanna do you.  Women do it for increased sexual attractiveness so they can have more attention leading to more sex outside of marriage.   :)

God loves sex out of wed lock doesn't he?

 
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: tonymctones on May 12, 2009, 06:43:56 PM
I'm not really outraged either way.  I don't care about the gay marriage thing that much.  I think its a waste of time and money.  How do i feel about it?  What side am i on?  I really don't care.  I think if gays want to call themselves married they should be able to.  Do I think its worth all this hoopla over it in the media and in state congresses?  No.  But I'm not gay looking to have a state sactified marriage.

Braces aren't permanent.  The effects are.  They straighten your teeth.  Breast implants are permanent and make more men wanna do you.  Women do it for increased sexual attractiveness so they can have more attention leading to more sex outside of marriage.   :)

God loves sex out of wed lock doesn't he?

 
LOL boobs arent meant to have sex out of wedlock youre starting to sound like busted bro...again permanent/not permanent, for sexual reasons/for non sexual reasons doesnt change the fact they are cosmetic changes due to vanity that you must undergo a procedure to do that as we can all agree the body would be better off not going through...therefor by busteds ignorant ass assertion with his boob job comment he must also be against braces...

OZ i know your smarter then this, iono if you just felt like argueing his ignorant points or what but argueing the points of a moron is always going to be an uphill battle.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: w8tlftr on May 12, 2009, 06:46:09 PM
Thats cause they can't fight................... ....

heh... I know a lot of people that can't "fight". It's not a skin color thing.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: OzmO on May 12, 2009, 06:54:00 PM
LOL boobs arent meant to have sex out of wedlock youre starting to sound like busted bro...again permanent/not permanent, for sexual reasons/for non sexual reasons doesnt change the fact they are cosmetic changes due to vanity that you must undergo a procedure to do that as we can all agree the body would be better off not going through...therefor by busteds ignorant ass assertion with his boob job comment he must also be against braces...

OZ i know your smarter then this, iono if you just felt like argueing his ignorant points or what but argueing the points of a moron is always going to be an uphill battle.

You asked me what the difference between braces and boob jobs are.  I say there are big differences in intent and have outline those differences.  Also I have shown that braces are primarily done for cosmetic reasons while boobs are done for sexual attractiveness reasons.  (BTW:  Both are done with the ultimate desire to gain pleasure in some form or another!  :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D)

And i still agree that "IF" Miss California is trying to pass herself off as a "true Christian" but yet is a model and poses for shots like I've shown then she is being hypocritical IMO.  If she is like, I believe a large percentage of Christians, are and have little grasp on the Bible and what it says, (every word), then she is likely not being hypocritical because she doesn't know any better.  Because we don't know what's really in her heart, as loco and I talked about earlier, we really don't know.  

This has little to do with busted at this point.

And yes, I do like to debate and argue.  I'll switch sides on this issue if you'd like.   :o
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: pumphard on May 12, 2009, 06:54:46 PM
heh... I know a lot of people that can't "fight". It's not a skin color thing.

Whatever you say.....................
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: OzmO on May 12, 2009, 07:07:15 PM
neither of that matters busteds problem with it is that it was a cosmetic change done for vanity which goes against treating the body like a temple...first of all i dont agree with that being not treating the body like a temple

But anyway pls explain to me how braces arent used as a cosmetic procedure and how attaching metal wires to your gums and teeth are good for your body?

youre right this whole thing is ridiculous

As weightlifter said BARRACK OBAMA SAID HE BELIEVES THAT MARRIAGE IS BETWEEN A MAN AND WOMAN, why not outrage at him?

Jumping to the other side of the fence for a moment..........

You are exactly right Tony. 

Further more.  What's wrong with enhancing your attractiveness by breast implants?  Wouldn't that increase the amount of mates to choose from?  What's wrong with being able to attract and interview as many suitable mates a possible so that you can make the right choice and be married forever?

Also, why not model lingerie?  How else can a married women know what might please him on his wife?  Is it sinful for someone to try and help married couples?

And how is a person with breast implants violating their body temple?  Does that apply to people with fillings in the teeth?  Pace makers?  Screws from broken bones etc..?





This is why i am the middle mod.   :) ;D :D 8)
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Dos Equis on May 12, 2009, 07:13:55 PM
"He who walks in the middle of the road gets hit from both sides."   :)
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: loco on May 12, 2009, 07:21:09 PM
No he didn't.  If you are going to talk about Biblical facts, get them RIGHT.

Jesus said

 4"Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' 5and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?
Matthew 19:4-5 (New International Version)
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: w8tlftr on May 12, 2009, 07:25:00 PM
Whatever you say.....................

Yep. Pretty much.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: OzmO on May 12, 2009, 07:31:27 PM
"He who walks in the middle of the road gets hit from both sides."   :)

But also experiences both.   :D :)
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: a_joker10 on May 12, 2009, 09:43:10 PM
The problem I see in most of these arguments is that you focus on your desires and blame her for them.

A picture is a picture without context. If the lingerie pictures were for a women's magazine most men wouldn't see them, and women they would be a bout beauty and not sex.

See context.

Most women I know that had breast enhancement didn't have the surgery to make themselves more sexually attractive, but to feel beautiful, this is gives them self confidence, very much the same as braces.

There are also many people that have cosmetic surgery after accidents or cancer. This also has more to do with beauty and confidence then sexuality.

There is always exceptions.

Just don't place your views on her without knowing the context of what you see.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Busted on May 12, 2009, 10:41:12 PM
As opposed to the enlightenment you lefties are always trying to push on us?

C'mon brah...  ::)

What do lefties push on you?  Lefties want the right wing to stop worrying about "The log in their eye, instead of the splinter in their neighbors" Right a bell ??  Or do you not like a "lefty" knowing more about the bible than you?
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Busted on May 12, 2009, 10:49:50 PM
according to your ignorance yea it is, although cock implants are more practical i would say...

you were against boob jobs b/c its plastic surgery and its for cosmetic purposes...so please explain how braces are different

Arguing with you is like arguing common sense with Sloth from the Goonies. 

I have no problem with cosmetic surgery. I do have a problem with hypocritical Christians.  Saying satan was tempting her and all she thought of was GOD?  For someone sooooo religious, why did she get a boob job? Why is she half naked on national tv were you can damn near see her pussy lips? Why was she posing nude?  Why did she go on National TV and lie today about her photos? Why did she lie on her contract? Saying a photographer took the photos  in between poses, but she was looking directly into the camera and her hair was not being blown by the wind?  Shes a fuckin fraud.  For those that know her out in CA (yes I know someone who knows her)  Shes a bit of a party girl...

Again Typical Christian.  A christian when its politically correct, otherwise not..  I follow the George Carlin way of life... FUCK THEM! :)
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Busted on May 12, 2009, 10:58:26 PM
that has nothing to do with his point that the body is a temple etc...he was against boob jobs b/c its plastic surgery and the body is a temple, you think fixing metal wires to your gums and teeth is good for your mouth? nooooo and its cosmetic just like boob jobs are so if your against boob jobs for his stated reasons LOGICALLY i know busted has a problem with this he has to be against braces etc....



hey fuck face, getting braces on is NOT a "surgery". Its gluing on metal over top of the teeth to help straighten teeth, and in some cases help cure TMJ...  it doesnt require a knife, stitches, drugs, a operating room and a life threatening procedure in order to make ones sex organs stick out....

Getting your boobs cut open and having sacks Rammed into your body and your nipple sewed back on so your boobs can look bigger to ATTRACT MEN is COMPLETELY different.

IF YOU ARE GOING TO GO ON TV AND GO ON AND ON HOW GOOD OF A CHRISTIAN YOU ARE, YOU ARE GOING TO BE CALLED OUT ON YOUR "CHRISTIANITY"

Nice post Sloth.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Busted on May 12, 2009, 10:59:43 PM
So do you think it's wrong for Christians to get braces on their teeth soley for cosmetic purposes?

Also, what about Christians dying their hair to cover the grey or change the color?



I didn't see if you answered ........ what denomination your father was when he was a minister?



Also, when you have time, could you please respond to the follow-up questions in the following thread?   I'm not flaming you...I am just curious as to your perspective on some things (also Hedge had posted some interesting info you may want to read).
 
 http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=276869.0
 
Thanks!


Im not a christian... Go read the bible and see what it says about what you can and cant do to your body...
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: DAMY on May 13, 2009, 05:24:31 AM
Faith aside, I reckon any man tinting out greys oughta be shot at dawn.

They look like idiots. Soon as the skin doesn't match the Grecian 2000/Just for Men, the male hair-tinter looks like an Action Man doll circa 1975.

Fuckin' terrible.

Remember Action Man's eagle-eyes, work the lever behind the head, make his eyes peer left and right?

That was him being self-conscious, looking around to see if women and small children were laughing at his comedy barnet.

Vain little plastic wanker.


DAMY
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 13, 2009, 05:31:18 AM
Once my hair started thinning in the front, I just shaved it off. 

I would not have hair back even if I could at this point. 
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Butterbean on May 13, 2009, 10:05:55 AM


Braces aren't permanent.  The effects are.  They straighten your teeth.  Breast implants are permanent and make more men wanna do you.  
 
The results of braces are more permanent than the results of breast implants which can be removed.

Also, wouldn't more men, being visual creatures, want to do a woman with a nice grill instead of a jacked up grill?


  Breast implants are permanent and make more men wanna do you.  Women do it for increased sexual attractiveness so they can have more attention leading to more sex outside of marriage.   :)


 

I had to double-check to see that you actually wrote this post Ozmo :o


The problem I see in most of these arguments is that you focus on your desires and blame her for them.

A picture is a picture without context. If the lingerie pictures were for a women's magazine most men wouldn't see them, and women they would be a bout beauty and not sex.

See context.

Most women I know that had breast enhancement didn't have the surgery to make themselves more sexually attractive, but to feel beautiful, this is gives them self confidence, very much the same as braces.

There are also many people that have cosmetic surgery after accidents or cancer. This also has more to do with beauty and confidence then sexuality.

There is always exceptions.

Just don't place your views on her without knowing the context of what you see.

Good points here!



Im not a christian... Go read the bible and see what it says about what you can and cant do to your body...

I do read the bible, thanks.

In what denomination was your father a minister?


Faith aside, I reckon any man tinting out greys oughta be shot at dawn.

They look like idiots. Soon as the skin doesn't match the Grecian 2000/Just for Men, the male hair-tinter looks like an Action Man doll circa 1975.

Fuckin' terrible.

Remember Action Man's eagle-eyes, work the lever behind the head, make his eyes peer left and right?

That was him being self-conscious, looking around to see if women and small children were laughing at his comedy barnet.

Vain little plastic wanker.


DAMY
lol


Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: OzmO on May 13, 2009, 11:28:45 AM
The results of braces are more permanent than the results of breast implants which can be removed.

Also, wouldn't more men, being visual creatures, want to do a woman with a nice grill instead of a jacked up grill?

I would but i don't think most men would.  I think they would want a stacked rack over a straight grill.

Besides what do you think gets the blood flowing more?  Would a man get more of an erection over nice teeth or beautiful full breasts?

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I had to double-check to see that you actually wrote this post Ozmo :o

What do you mean?


Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: tonymctones on May 13, 2009, 11:33:51 AM
I would but i don't think most men would.  I think they would want a stacked rack over a straight grill.

Besides what do you think gets the blood flowing more?  Would a man get more of an erection over nice teeth or beautiful full breasts?

What do you mean?



I think most men would prefer a women with a good smile over one without one...

Id rather have a women with a great face which includes a smile and decent body then a chick with a decent face and fuked up grill and a bangin body maybe thats just me...

She meant it sounded like something busted would say... ;D sorry stella didnt mean to shove words in your mouth...hehehe
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: OzmO on May 13, 2009, 11:41:21 AM
I think most men would prefer a women with a good smile over one without one...

Id rather have a women with a great face which includes a smile and decent body then a chick with a decent face and fuked up grill and a bangin body maybe thats just me...

She meant it sounded like something busted would say... ;D sorry stella didnt mean to shove words in your mouth...hehehe

Wow, I think my gimmick has been exposed.

jk  ;D
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: tonymctones on May 13, 2009, 11:43:32 AM
Wow, I think my gimmick has been exposed.

jk  ;D
and just so you know boobs and smiles are used to procreate as well, serving the main goal of life  ;)
homosexuality  ???
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: OzmO on May 13, 2009, 11:49:00 AM
and just so you know boobs and smiles are used to procreate as well, serving the main goal of life  ;)
homosexuality  ???

You mean the attain of pleasure and or the avoidance of pain.   8)
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Dos Equis on May 13, 2009, 12:05:13 PM
The problem I see in most of these arguments is that you focus on your desires and blame her for them.

A picture is a picture without context. If the lingerie pictures were for a women's magazine most men wouldn't see them, and women they would be a bout beauty and not sex.

See context.

Most women I know that had breast enhancement didn't have the surgery to make themselves more sexually attractive, but to feel beautiful, this is gives them self confidence, very much the same as braces.

There are also many people that have cosmetic surgery after accidents or cancer. This also has more to do with beauty and confidence then sexuality.

There is always exceptions.

Just don't place your views on her without knowing the context of what you see.

Excellent points joker.  Context definitely matters. 
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: pumphard on May 13, 2009, 05:54:04 PM
Yep. Pretty much.
Check out who's responsible for most weapon charges in most urban center's.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: MCWAY on May 14, 2009, 12:48:52 PM
I think it's funny how threatened people are by this woman.  The majority of black people in CA voted against gay marriage but I don't see the gays, Perez Hilton included, taking up arms against them.  Funny how that works.  It's okay for blacks to be bigoted but not Mormons or this pageant girl.

Actually, some of them did. However, for some reason they didn't go to the black communities and vandalize their churches.

One black lesbian writer, Jasmyne Cannick, claimed that she got plenty of nasty-grams from gay activists. That was the point of one of her articles in the San Francisco Chronicle: For all their yapping about tolerance and equality, racism is alive and well among white gays, as it relates to black homosexuals.

Furthermore, certain gay activists are bascially too dense to figure out that the reason many blacks don't equate the "gay rights" stuff with the black civil rights movement is because gay activists tend to BASH the Christian church, which happens to be (at least, African-American churches) the foundation of the civil rights movement.

Heck, its greatest champion is a BLACK PREACHER. Do gay activists really think bashing Christianity and faith is going to sit well with the black community, when it was the driving force of Dr. Martin Luther King's life?

Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Busted on May 14, 2009, 01:40:27 PM
I love how Christians will hammer the shit out of a liberal if they would have been in her shoes, but their Christian beauty gets caught in lies, naked pics, gets a boob job, lives her life against the bible and they defend her...
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: MCWAY on May 14, 2009, 02:03:23 PM
I love how Christians will hammer the shit out of a liberal if they would have been in her shoes, but their Christian beauty gets caught in lies, naked pics, gets a boob job, lives her life against the bible and they defend her...


Christians defend Prejean, because they know that, contrary to what certain bone-headed liberals foolishly and sheepishly pretend it to be, this ain't about those "naked" pics; it's about Prejean's answer to a gay judge's question about same-sex "marriage".

That is especially made manifiest when the now-FORMER director of the Miss CA pageant not only took legitimately butt-naked photos for Playboy but did softcore porn FOR THAT SAME COMPANY.

Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: 240 is Back on May 14, 2009, 04:03:42 PM
FOX news is having her deliver the news tomorrow on fox and friends!
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: tonymctones on May 14, 2009, 04:05:52 PM
FOX news is having her deliver the news tomorrow on fox and friends!
LOL msnbc should watch out, they helped create this woman and now she will own them in ratings...
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Busted on May 14, 2009, 04:35:59 PM

Christians defend Prejean, because they know that, contrary to what certain bone-headed liberals foolishly and sheepishly pretend it to be, this ain't about those "naked" pics; it's about Prejean's answer to a gay judge's question about same-sex "marriage".

That is especially made manifiest when the now-FORMER director of the Miss CA pageant not only took legitimately butt-naked photos for Playboy but did softcore porn FOR THAT SAME COMPANY.



I could care less about her remark, or her naked pics... Bless her for naked pics she should do more... The LEFT sounded off on her when she went on her Anti Gay / talking about Satan and GOD tour... Then come to find out she wasnt allowed to do that as per her contract... She was not held accountable for breaking the rules...

Same thing with the torture issues, i could care less about torture... but when a LAW is BROKE people should be held accountable...
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: MCWAY on May 15, 2009, 04:49:00 AM
I could care less about her remark, or her naked pics... Bless her for naked pics she should do more... The LEFT sounded off on her when she went on her Anti Gay / talking about Satan and GOD tour... Then come to find out she wasnt allowed to do that as per her contract... She was not held accountable for breaking the rules...

Same thing with the torture issues, i could care less about torture... but when a LAW is BROKE people should be held accountable...

What part of “Prejean hasn’t done any naked pics” don’t you understand?

The guy to made that "law" (Trump) said she didn't break it. So, the issue is settled. Trump said on "Fox and Friends" that his decision was an easy one.

That's probably why Moakler quit. Between the Donald's statements on "Fox and Friends" (prior to the press conference), "Larry King Live", the press conference itself, and a phone interview on "Fox and Friends" (with Prejean on the show), the impression is that Trump never intended to strip Prejean of her crown.

The scowls on the faces of Moalker and Lewis pretty much told the story.
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: tonymctones on May 15, 2009, 04:55:40 AM
I could care less about her remark, or her naked pics... Bless her for naked pics she should do more... The LEFT sounded off on her when she went on her Anti Gay / talking about Satan and GOD tour... Then come to find out she wasnt allowed to do that as per her contract... She was not held accountable for breaking the rules...

Same thing with the torture issues, i could care less about torture... but when a LAW is BROKE people should be held accountable...
first of the left was going off before she even left the building you twit, or didnt you hear about the ppl in the lobby accosting ppl over their gay marriage views? how about hilton the very next day? LOL the left didnt wait until she said anything other then supporting traditional marriage  ::)

again plz show me where it says she cant take pics that show skin...AS IVE ALREADY PROVEN SHE DIDNT INTENTIONALLY TAKE NUDE PICS...you would probably try and hold her responsible if some guy snapped naked pics of her while she was asleep to wouldnt you?

Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: Busted on May 15, 2009, 06:08:07 AM
What part of “Prejean hasn’t done any naked pics” don’t you understand?

The guy to made that "law" (Trump) said she didn't break it. So, the issue is settled. Trump said on "Fox and Friends" that his decision was an easy one.

That's probably why Moakler quit. Between the Donald's statements on "Fox and Friends" (prior to the press conference), "Larry King Live", the press conference itself, and a phone interview on "Fox and Friends" (with Prejean on the show), the impression is that Trump never intended to strip Prejean of her crown.

The scowls on the faces of Moalker and Lewis pretty much told the story.

What part of she has over 10 different naked pics out there.... As per the CONTRACT she signed... "no nude or SEMI NUDE" pics...  Trump kept her on for  PUBLICITY...
Title: Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
Post by: MCWAY on May 15, 2009, 06:30:25 AM
What part of she has over 10 different naked pics out there.... As per the CONTRACT she signed... "no nude or SEMI NUDE" pics...  Trump kept her on for  PUBLICITY...

Tommy posted those pics and she is naked in absolutely NONE of them. Trump reviewed them and said there was no breach.

He made no statements to indicate that Prejean had violated her contract but was being given a second chance (as he did with Miss USA Tara Connor and other pageant girls, who've commited legitimate violations)

You want to see naked pics; look of those of the now-FORMER director of the Miss CA pageant, Shanna Moakler.

Once again, Moakler's a gay rights activist; Lewis is gay; their plan was to use Miss California to promote gay "marriage" in California. But Prejean ain't buying it.

That's where this controversy lies; that's why Moakler quit.