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Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2009, 11:47:23 AM »
Im not a biblical scolar im sure stella or mcway could give you an answer but that does not have anything to do with any of the ignorant points that were made by busteds...I assume youre getting at his point 4 which starts off with saying she judges ppl...please show me how she judges ppl?

Everyone judges people.  Busted is saying that Jesus never said anything against homosexuals but she is.

Also, I'm not talking about his other posts.  I'm talking about this one.  Where he makes some good points.

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Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2009, 11:48:41 AM »
LOL! I love the bullshit those Miss-Wherever contestants keep spouting.


I'm Karen, I speak four-hundred languages, I love meeting new people, I love to travel and absorb new cultures, I wanna be a goodwill ambassador and...


Yeah yeah, sit on my face, Honey.

Why don't they just say Hey judges, vote for me and I'll take your stump in my asscrack! Then when I win, I want to travel the world, blowing rich guys until I find one dumb enough to marry my hick ass.

girls.

But yeah, religious people are wankers.

Think about it. These people believe, or they claim to believe, in an invisible superior being, who watches our every move and knows our every thought.

So these people are either crazy or full of shit.


Faith! P-tooh!


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So DAMY, according to you the following scientists are "wankers", "crazy or full of shit"    ::)

Sir Ronald Fisher, Theodosius Dobzhansky, Arthur Peacocke, Russell Stannard, John Polkinghorne and Francis Collins.

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Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2009, 11:50:38 AM »
So DAMY, according to you the following scientists are "wankers", "crazy or full of shit"    ::)

Sir Ronald Fisher, Theodosius Dobzhansky, Arthur Peacocke, Russell Stannard, John Polkinghorne and Francis Collins.


Yes.

Fuck you.


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Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2009, 11:50:45 AM »
First off, I think ALL Religious people are hypocrites.  Religion is a joke and brain washing for dumb people. Grown intelligent adults choose to follow the fictional book "The Bible", instead of using rational thinking. 

Why do I think Miss Cali is a hypocrite?

Well first off, shes a model.  A christian Model is like a "Kosher Pig farmer", in less you are a hypocrite. It's sad I know the bible better than these "Professional Christians".  Trying to get on TV like shes all squeaky clean.  Letting Michael Felps bust his nuts in her face. lol

1- According to "The Bible" no woman is supposed to dress in any way to sexually attract men.  She went on national TV promoting her body in a sexual manner, half naked to attract men. 

2-She got plastic surgery. According to "The Bible",  "you are to treat your body like a temple".  Surgery for cosmetic purposes (Boob Job) goes against "The Bible" directly.

3- Lied in her application.  Do I need to explain "The Lie"?

4- She judges everyone who favors same sex marriage.  Judging? What would Jesus do? Where in the new test does Jesus mention gay people?  Keep searching... he never did...

Now, do i think any of these things above are BAD? NO, but when she starts preaching the whole "Christian Crap" you better not be a freggin hypocrite!

PS, My father was a minister. I know the bible a little better than most.  :o)  It's a nice fictional book!



it must be nice being you.  no one can ever call you a hypocrite because you believe in nothing.  you only believe in yourself.  you are TYPICAL.

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Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2009, 11:51:49 AM »

Yes.

Fuck you.


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God bless you, DAMY!

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Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2009, 11:57:24 AM »
Homo, your the-following-scientists post reminded me of shite I used to hear as a child, from family members and their gossip buddies.

Oh well, I don't go to church, but there's cleverer people than us who believe in it, so...


Classic working-class, low-self-worth bullshit, blind deference to any prick with a title or a degree suffixed to his/her name.

Look, Sir Knob-End has published an article in the New-England Wanker's Journal, pontificating about the existence of a God. Hey, that's good enough for me.


Sad prick.


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Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2009, 11:58:10 AM »
Everyone judges people.  Busted is saying that Jesus never said anything against homosexuals but she is.

Also, I'm not talking about his other posts.  I'm talking about this one.  Where he makes some good points.

When did she say anything against homosexuals?  I thought she just said that she believed that marriage should be between a man and a woman.  Jesus said that too.  

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Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2009, 12:00:04 PM »
Everyone judges people.  Busted is saying that Jesus never said anything against homosexuals but she is.

Also, I'm not talking about his other posts.  I'm talking about this one.  Where he makes some good points.
LOL OZ he is making horrible points they are the very essence of ignorance man...we have debunked everyone so far...First off you have to get past the very first ignorant point that she is a hypocrite b/c she is christian etc...christians SINNNNNNN it happens we know this, WE PREACH THISSSSS...her sinning is nothing more then afirmation that she is human, therefor sinning doesnt make a CHRISTIAN A HYPOCRITE...get it? This negates his entire post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Again im no biblical scholar

here are a few scriptures i was able to find i dont know who said them but from the bible none the less

Leviticus 18:22 - "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable."

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

Romans 1:26-27 - "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion."


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Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2009, 12:03:05 PM »
Homo, your the-following-scientists post reminded me of shite I used to hear as a child, from family members and their gossip buddies.

Oh well, I don't go to church, but there's cleverer people than us who believe in it, so...


Classic working-class, low-self-worth bullshit, excessive deference to any #### with a title or a degree suffixed to his/her name.

Look, Sir Knob-End has published an article in the New-England Wanker's Journal, pontificating about the existence of a God. Hey, that's good enough for me.
Sad prick.


DAMY

Homo? As in homosexual?  No, I'm not a homosexual.  But if I were, you'd be the first to know.  I am flattered, but I don't swing that way.  

DAMY, you are one angry, hateful individual.  Do you know any other words besides the F word and besides the word "wanker"?     :)

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Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
« Reply #34 on: May 12, 2009, 12:07:39 PM »
LOL OZ he is making horrible points they are the very essence of ignorance man...we have debunked everyone so far...First off you have to get past the very first ignorant point that she is a hypocrite b/c she is christian etc...christians SINNNNNNN it happens we know this, WE PREACH THISSSSS...her sinning is nothing more then afirmation that she is human, therefor sinning doesnt make a CHRISTIAN A HYPOCRITE...get it? This negates his entire post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Again im no biblical scholar

here are a few scriptures i was able to find i dont know who said them but from the bible none the less

Leviticus 18:22 - "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable."

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

Romans 1:26-27 - "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion."


Jesus to OzmO:

Matthew 19:4-5 (New International Version)

 4"Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' 5and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?

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Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2009, 12:09:02 PM »
Hypocrite...
Not a good idea to insult 60% of the American population, you jackass.
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Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
« Reply #36 on: May 12, 2009, 12:09:30 PM »
Homo? As in homosexual?  No, I'm not a homosexual.  But if I were, you'd be the first to know.  I am flattered, but I don't swing that way.  

DAMY, you are one angry, hateful individual.  Do you know any other words besides the F word and besides the word "wanker"?     :)


Yes, but these words and their ilk are my faves.

I would use the c-word, but this asshole board auto-censors it.

Prick.


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Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
« Reply #37 on: May 12, 2009, 12:11:02 PM »

Yes, but these words and their ilk are my faves.

I would use the c-word, but this asshole board auto-censors it.

Prick.


DAMY

I see you know the word "Prick" too.  Good for you, DAMY!   :)

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Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
« Reply #38 on: May 12, 2009, 12:12:39 PM »
Man, your laid-back, accommodating approach to my bluster is really getting under my skin.

You're a genius.


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Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
« Reply #39 on: May 12, 2009, 12:14:52 PM »
Jesus to OzmO:

Matthew 19:4-5 (New International Version)

 4"Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' 5and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?

Thank you loco.

So if you don't become one flesh with a woman you are committing a sin?

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Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
« Reply #40 on: May 12, 2009, 12:20:00 PM »
Thank you loco.

So if you don't become one flesh with a woman you are committing a sin?
what does that matter oz? again sinning is part of being a christian this is what is taught to christians so how is sinning being a hypocrite...christians struggle against sin it is never said that christians DONT sin, this negates busteds entire point

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Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
« Reply #41 on: May 12, 2009, 12:25:02 PM »
Thank you loco.

So if you don't become one flesh with a woman you are committing a sin?

You are welcome!

Marrying a woman and then intentionally never having sex with her, not even once?  According to the Bible, yes, that is a sin.  But what does that have to do with Miss Cali?  Just curious?

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Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
« Reply #42 on: May 12, 2009, 12:27:06 PM »
what does that matter oz? again sinning is part of being a christian this is what is taught to christians so how is sinning being a hypocrite...christians struggle against sin it is never said that christians DONT sin, this negates busteds entire point

Actually that comment is indirectly asking if that verse is even talking about marriage and if one doesn't marry or become "one flesh" if they are committing a sin.

Yes, if you are a Christian you struggle against sin. Miss Cali suggested that gay marriage is wrong by saying marriage should only be between a man and a woman because of the recent debate/vote on the subject.  It was a judgment, even though it was indirect.

I applaud her making the statement BTW.  Even if i don't care.

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Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
« Reply #43 on: May 12, 2009, 12:29:52 PM »
You are welcome!

Marrying a woman and then intentionally never having sex with her, not even once?  According to the Bible, yes, that is a sin.  But what does that have to do with Miss Cali?  Just curious?

Nothing, I thought you brought up the verse because i said i didn't Jesus said anything against homosexuality.  I took "one with the flesh" as being of one entity as married couple does things as a couple, as one.  Your explanation of it makes more sense.

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Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
« Reply #44 on: May 12, 2009, 12:32:25 PM »
Actually that comment is indirectly asking if that verse is even talking about marriage and if one doesn't marry or become "one flesh" if they are committing a sin.

Yes, if you are a Christian you struggle against sin. Miss Cali suggested that gay marriage is wrong by saying marriage should only be between a man and a woman because of the recent debate/vote on the subject.  It was a judgment, even though it was indirect.

I applaud her making the statement BTW.  Even if i don't care.
again busteds ignorant ass point that you defend is she is a hypocrite b/c she is a CHRISTIAN AND SAID THIS...even if she was wrong and sinned that wouldnt make her a hypocrite b/c as we know that as a christian you will sin its not debateable....I.E. she is not a hypocrite for sinning she is a Christian...


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Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
« Reply #45 on: May 12, 2009, 12:34:54 PM »
again busteds ignorant ass point that you defend is she is a hypocrite b/c she is a CHRISTIAN AND SAID THIS...even if she was wrong and sinned that wouldnt make her a hypocrite b/c as we know that as a christian you will sin its not debateable....I.E. she is not a hypocrite for sinning she is a Christian...

And said what?

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Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
« Reply #46 on: May 12, 2009, 12:38:36 PM »
And said what?
well the one you wanted to focus on was #4 so apparently let say what she said to make ppl think she was judging ppl...

but again it doesnt matter my point negates busteds ignorant first premise which makes all subsequent statments invalid...

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Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
« Reply #47 on: May 12, 2009, 12:43:28 PM »
again busteds ignorant ass point that you defend is she is a hypocrite b/c she is a CHRISTIAN AND SAID THIS...even if she was wrong and sinned that wouldnt make her a hypocrite b/c as we know that as a christian you will sin its not debateable....I.E. she is not a hypocrite for sinning she is a Christian...



well the one you wanted to focus on was #4 so apparently let say what she said to make ppl think she was judging ppl...

but again it doesnt matter my point negates busteds ignorant first premise which makes all subsequent statments invalid...





Why do I think Miss Cali is a hypocrite?

Well first off, shes a model. 

1- According to "The Bible" no woman is supposed to dress in any way to sexually attract men.  She went on national TV promoting her body in a sexual manner, half naked to attract men.

2-She got plastic surgery. According to "The Bible",  "you are to treat your body like a temple".  Surgery for cosmetic purposes (Boob Job) goes against "The Bible" directly.

She's selling her body and looks sexually.  That's hypocritical IMO. It may not be in other people's opinion.  I just happen to agree.

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3- Lied in her application.  Do I need to explain "The Lie"?

nuff said, if it's true.

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4- She judges everyone who favors same sex marriage.  Judging? What would Jesus do? Where in the new test does Jesus mention gay people?  Keep searching... he never did...

If #4 is the weakest argument to her being a hypocrite in your eyes, then fine.  The rest is still good.

But I don't for one second believe she's a Christian on the level.

Also regarding sinning christians:

If they sin the same sin over and over again, they are hypocrites.   For example:  A person goes to bible study on Wednesday, church every Sunday, but commits adultery every other day of the week.  Miss California is a model that sells sex.  It's her chosen profession.







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Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
« Reply #48 on: May 12, 2009, 12:50:24 PM »



She's selling her body and looks sexually.  That's hypocritical IMO. It may not be in other people's opinion.  I just happen to agree.

nuff said, if it's true.

If #4 is the weakest argument to her being a hypocrite in your eyes, then fine.  The rest is still good.

But I don't for one second believe she's a Christian on the level.

Also regarding sinning christians:

If they sin the same sin over and over again, they are hypocrites.   For example:  A person goes to bible study on Wednesday, church every Sunday, but commits adultery every other day of the week.  Miss California is a model that sells sex.  It's her chosen profession.
OZ your missing the point bro he said she is a hypocrite b/c she is a christian and has sinned or gone against what the bible says. the bible never said that ppl will not sin, in fact is says that we as ppl will sin therefor her sinning doesnt make her a hypocrite do you understand?

She doesnt sell sex, she uses sex appeal to sell things different...you example is crap again it never said you wont sin the same sin more then once...gezz louise man sinning doesnt make a christian a hypocrite.

you can call her a hypocrite for saying one thing and doing another fine but you cant call her a hypocrite for being a christian and sinning like busteds dumb ass did...her being a hypocrite in your eyes has nothing to do with being a christian  ::)

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Re: Miss Cali... Tpyical Christian
« Reply #49 on: May 12, 2009, 12:51:54 PM »

She's selling her body and looks sexually.  That's hypocritical IMO. It may not be in other people's opinion.  I just happen to agree.

nuff said, if it's true.

If #4 is the weakest argument to her being a hypocrite in your eyes, then fine.  The rest is still good.

But I don't for one second believe she's a Christian on the level.

Also regarding sinning christians:

If they sin the same sin over and over again, they are hypocrites.   For example:  A person goes to bible study on Wednesday, church every Sunday, but commits adultery every other day of the week.  

That's not Biblical, nor is it what Christianity teaches.  But if it's your opinion, you're entitled to it.

And for you or for me to say that a person who claims to be a Christian is or isn't a Christian, isn't that judging?  Isn't that between the person claiming to be a Christian and Jesus Christ?

Miss California is a model that sells sex.  It's her chosen profession.

Selling sex?  Is she a prostitute?  I thought she was a "beauty" pageant contestant.