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and FAR SUPERIOR Ian Harrison. This guy had it all, but was overlooked along with guys like Charles Clairmonte in the mid 90's. They brought MASS and SYMMETRY to the table, without the BLOATED GUTS...
Dennis Wolfe WISHES he looked as good as Ian did at 26 years old 14 YEARS AGO. Just goes to show JUST how much the sport has taken a million steps backwards since 1999.
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hahahaha, supposedly Ian was known for being a walking pharmacy.
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great quads, arms too small for his body.
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His quads were crazy and his back was wide, but he never really filled out his frame enough to get the placings he could have gotten. He looked a bit lanky next to guys like Nasser and Yates.
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Legit 6'0" guy and weighed 315 pounds offseason and 280 pounds in competition.
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His quads were crazy and his back was wide, but he never really filled out his frame enough to get the placings he could have gotten. He looked a bit lanky next to guys like Nasser and Yates.
maybe Ian liked playing baseketball in the offseason, Kiwiol.
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His quads were crazy and his back was wide, but he never really filled out his frame enough to get the placings he could have gotten. He looked a bit lanky next to guys like Nasser and Yates.
What was your opinion on 6'0" 250 pounds Charles Clairmonte? Him and Ian were training partners. Charles had some of the best biceps in the business.
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waist looks wider than wolf's
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Guy looks great but Wolf's delts destroy his.
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His left arm looks all of 17.5 " pumped after a bi/tri superset
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maybe Ian liked playing baseketball in the offseason, Kiwiol.
Haha he almost had the height for it
What was your opinion on 6'0" 250 pounds Charles Clairmonte? Him and Ian were training partners. Charles had some of the best biceps in the business.
Charles had classic lines and of course, his biceps, but he lacked thickness big time. I thought back then that Ian would eventually overtake Charles cause of his bigger frame, younger age and freaky size. But they both just faded away from the scene. FLEX magazine used to hype them both up probably because Peter McGough had a soft spot for Brits, but after 96 / 97, they both literally dropped out of the map altogether.
And Wolf is actually a tier or two above Ian, cause Ian never placed high or won any major competition, whereas Wolf has been in the top 6 of the Olympia, has a better structure and looks more promising.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=280459.0;attach=320385;image)
Looks great here
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Here's a few of his training partner: 6'0" 250 pound Charles Claimonte:
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His arms are only small relative to the rest.
His arms are BIG. The rest of his body is HUGE.
(http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs020.snc1/3034_74291184890_722459890_1746843_4061416_n.jpg)
(http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs020.snc1/3034_74291174890_722459890_1746841_7908935_n.jpg)
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MASS MONSTER and his strength was legendary!
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Some more of Charles
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People are drooling over today's line up, but they ALL pale in comparison to the competitors of the early-late 90's. Even Dennis Wolf WISHED he looked as good as Ian did 14 years ago. If Ian or Charles came around today I wonder if they would be appreciated for just how GREAT they are? MASS does NOT equal quality. Judges forgot this notion over a DECADE ago.
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LOL. Are those cctv stills of a bank robbery suspect!?
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wolf looks better
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wolf looks better
Not a chance in hell. You must also think that Jay Cutler is the second coming.
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Not a chance in hell. You must also think that Jay Cutler is the second coming.
Ian has the arms of a 16 year old natural
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that niggah looks good
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Not a chance in hell. You must also think that Jay Cutler is the second coming.
Kiwiol is right. Ian had a bit of a weird structure, never quite filling it either.
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Monstruous quads, rest is shit.
Wolf is better in every other possibly way.
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IMO Wolf has everything to become legendary...
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Harrison has ridiculous quads
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Huge Aryan bastard with muscles.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=280459.0;attach=320387;image)
LOL!!!
Was this how he was trying to rob the quickie mart?
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and FAR SUPERIOR Ian Harrison. This guy had it all, but was overlooked along with guys like Charles Clairmonte in the mid 90's. They brought MASS and SYMMETRY to the table, without the BLOATED GUTS...
Dennis Wolfe WISHES he looked as good as Ian did at 26 years old 14 YEARS AGO. Just goes to show JUST how much the sport has taken a million steps backwards since 1999.
Not a fan of Wolf's physique. Prefer Ian all the way.
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Ian & Charles!!.. Are you English??.. I always liked Charles he was great.. his only weakness was his relatively narrow and small torso which was a little overshadowed by his great shoulders and arms (his biceps is from the best ever in my opinion).. also his legs could have been a little bit bigger.. still his overall thing was great and was something pleasant for the eye to watch,.. he was one of the guy I never skipped their posing routine while watch any Olympia!..
As for ian, the only thing you can compare him to wolf in is that both have noticeably small calves under their big thighs!!.. other than that, wolf is much better in EVERYTHING hands down.. ian doesn’t come ANYTHING close, his shoulders/arms were very small for his torso and his structure had many flaws!!..
The guy who we can compare ian with is gunter!!.. both had nearly the exact same weak points but gunter had much better “luck”!!.. ian took what he deserved but gunter took much more than what he deserved!..
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Not English, no, but I do have an appreciation for the bodybuilders of the 80's and especially the 90's. When I was younger, I always thought that bigger was better, but I realize now that the quality of the competitor's was SO MUCH MORE advanced THEN, than it is today and guys like Charles Clairmonte, Vince Taylor, Sonny Schmidt, Aaron Baker, Ian Harrison, Chris Cormier, Kevin Levrone, Pavol Jablonicky, Alq Gurley, Shawn Ray, etc...
Today there are so FEW competitors that really stand out like there were in the 90's. The only one that come to mind is Ronnie Coleman and even he became a MESS at the end.. I think people like Wolf so much because compared to the rest of today's competition, he stands out, but he certainly would not have stood out in the mid 90's. Not a CHANCE. Not when ALL of the above guys I mentioned (who all placed for the most part, out of the top 10) had better physiques than Wolf does today.
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Not English, no, but I do have an appreciation for the bodybuilders of the 80's and especially the 90's. When I was younger, I always thought that bigger was better, but I realize now that the quality of the competitor's was SO MUCH MORE advanced THEN, than it is today and guys like Charles Clairmonte, Vince Taylor, Sonny Schmidt, Aaron Baker, Ian Harrison, Chris Cormier, Kevin Levrone, Pavol Jablonicky, Alq Gurley, Shawn Ray, etc...
Today there are so FEW competitors that really stand out like there were in the 90's. The only one that come to mind is Ronnie Coleman and even he became a MESS at the end.. I think people like Wolf so much because compared to the rest of today's competition, he stands out, but he certainly would not have stood out in the mid 90's. Not a CHANCE. Not when ALL of the above guys I mentioned (who all placed for the most part, out of the top 10) had better physiques than Wolf does today.
i agree with you that wolf is not as good as the very top guy of the 90s but for sure he is much better than someone like ian..
the most important thing to be a good bb is the shape of your structure and the shape of your muscles and how the diff. areas on your body go together with each other (proportion).. this is a God given thing, no one can change his structure or the shape of his muscles.. for example you cant create a good V shape whatever you do if the bones of your waist are naturally wide.. and you cant close the gap between your right chest and your left chest if they are naturally separated..
ian or gunter were big and could be considered mass monsters but their structures flaws didnt make them great bodybuilders..
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=280459.0;attach=320378;image)
good pic right there
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Wolf looks Alot better.
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Ian & Charles!!.. Are you English??.. I always liked Charles he was great.. his only weakness was his relatively narrow and small torso which was a little overshadowed by his great shoulders and arms (his biceps is from the best ever in my opinion).. also his legs could have been a little bit bigger.. still his overall thing was great and was something pleasant for the eye to watch,.. he was one of the guy I never skipped their posing routine while watch any Olympia!..
As for ian, the only thing you can compare him to wolf in is that both have noticeably small calves under their big thighs!!.. other than that, wolf is much better in EVERYTHING hands down.. ian doesn’t come ANYTHING close, his shoulders/arms were very small for his torso and his structure had many flaws!!..
The guy who we can compare ian with is gunter!!.. both had nearly the exact same weak points but gunter had much better “luck”!!.. ian took what he deserved but gunter took much more than what he deserved!..
Good post. The comparison between Ian and Gunter is spot on. Gunter could get good placings at a moment when the field was not as competitive as it was in the '90s. He would have been lost in the shuffle during the '90s. Wolf has great potential but even though he was impressive at the 2007 O (he should have been in the top 3 i think), he couldn't have placed in the top 6 of any of the '90s editions with a back like his.
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Gunter could get good placings at a moment when the field was not as competitive as it was in the '90s. He would have been lost in the shuffle during the '90s.
Not in his 2002 shape. Guter was impressive that year. Ripped at 299lbs @ 6'1. He beat Ronnie.
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Ian & Charles!!.. Are you English??.. I always liked Charles he was great.. his only weakness was his relatively narrow and small torso which was a little overshadowed by his great shoulders and arms (his biceps is from the best ever in my opinion).. also his legs could have been a little bit bigger.. still his overall thing was great and was something pleasant for the eye to watch,.. he was one of the guy I never skipped their posing routine while watch any Olympia!..
As for ian, the only thing you can compare him to wolf in is that both have noticeably small calves under their big thighs!!.. other than that, wolf is much better in EVERYTHING hands down.. ian doesn’t come ANYTHING close, his shoulders/arms were very small for his torso and his structure had many flaws!!..
The guy who we can compare ian with is gunter!!.. both had nearly the exact same weak points but gunter had much better “luck”!!.. ian took what he deserved but gunter took much more than what he deserved!..
i agree with you that wolf is not as good as the very top guy of the 90s but for sure he is much better than someone like ian..
the most important thing to be a good bb is the shape of your structure and the shape of your muscles and how the diff. areas on your body go together with each other (proportion).. this is a God given thing, no one can change his structure or the shape of his muscles.. for example you cant create a good V shape whatever you do if the bones of your waist are naturally wide.. and you cant close the gap between your right chest and your left chest if they are naturally separated..
ian or gunter were big and could be considered mass monsters but their structures flaws didnt make them great bodybuilders..
2 posts and no reference to Nasser? ??? ???
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Not in his 2002 shape. Guter was impressive that year. Ripped at 299lbs @ 6'1. He beat Ronnie.
He could have placed better at the '0 that year but I don't think it was enough to beat Ronnie. And 2002 was a very weak edition, Levrone with no legs got a gift placing 2nd, Cormier was far from his '99 shape, Dexter was the same old Dexter with less maturity than now and Ronnie already looked like shit (but at least in '03 he looked like the most massive piece of shit ever). But all the editions from 2000 to 2006 are very weak I think.
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ian was a good set of wheels that never filled out his arms. fact. he placed where he belonged and wouldnt do any better today.
chuck clairmonte was very good and overlooked.
wolf is better than both except for his calves.
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wolf is ten times better...
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Good post. The comparison between Ian and Gunter is spot on. Gunter could get good placings at a moment when the field was not as competitive as it was in the '90s. He would have been lost in the shuffle during the '90s. Wolf has great potential but even though he was impressive at the 2007 O (he should have been in the top 3 i think), he couldn't have placed in the top 6 of any of the '90s editions with a back like his.
He actually WAS lost in the shuffle in the 1990's. He was competing as far back as 1994 with the pros of that era and back then EVERYONE was placing higher than him (Porter Cottrell and many others)...
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He could have placed better at the '0 that year but I don't think it was enough to beat Ronnie.
I was actually referring to the 2002 GNC Show of Strength where Guter actually beat Ronnie. Gunter is not perfect....but when youre ripped at 300lb...you can beat the big names if they are off. Here are pics from that show...
(http://pi.b5z.net/i/u/230085/i/Gunter_Schlierkamp_ee.jpg) (http://pi.b5z.net/i/u/230085/i/Gunter_Schlierkamp_aa_t.jpg)
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a face only a mother would love ;D
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anyone truly convinced that Ian was better than Wolf is delusional
(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/2008/results/2008mro_wolf.jpg)
(http://australian-bodybuilding.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/arnold-dennis-wolf-bodybuilding-wallpaper.jpg)
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anyone truly convinced that Ian was better than Wolf is delusional
(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/2008/results/2008mro_wolf.jpg)
(http://australian-bodybuilding.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/arnold-dennis-wolf-bodybuilding-wallpaper.jpg)
Not impressed.
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Not impressed.
man to call wolf "not impressive" and to call benaziza "overrated" while seeing ian harison a great bb, i am sorry to say you dont know what bb is!!
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man to call wolf "not impressive" and to call benaziza "overrated" while seeing ian harison a great bb, i am sorry to say you dont know what bb is!!
haha... We all have our opinions I guess. I do think that Dennis HAS great potential, but looking at him today is like looking at a 1992 Ronnie Coleman. He's still in the oven and HOW MANY bodybuilders over the years were in the oven and never came out? Dennis Newman, Mike Francois, Roland Czirlok (spelling), Matt Mendenhall, Bob Paris, Gunnar Rosbo, Rory Leidelmeyer, Gary Strydom, Berry Demey and Mike Christian to name just a few.
The potential is there, but he's NOT there yet and not by a long shot. If he got there, he would be unbeatable among TODAY'S competition.