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In true GetBig fashion, an old friend of mine crashed his bike and was killed instantly Saturday night.
He leaves behind a young son and daughter.
He was a sociology professor with several publications to his credit and had devoted his life to his family and to helping to improve the family relationships of others through teaching, counseling, his writings, and oral presentations to various groups.
Meanwhile, I'm a selfish fuck who only lives to entertain. I'm not doing anything to improve my community and while I have started several books, I haven't completed or published a thing.
I'm not asking to be dead, but if God really exists, why is this young man gone while someone like me gets to continue on?
37 is way too young.
RIP Jay
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In true GetBig fashion, an old friend of mine crashed his bike and was killed instantly Saturday night.
He leaves behind a young son and daughter.
He was a sociology professor with several publications to his credit and had devoted his life to his family and to helping to improve the family relationships of others through teaching, counseling, his writings, and oral presentations to various groups.
Meanwhile, I'm a selfish fuck who only lives to entertain. I'm not doing anything to improve my community and while I have started several books, I haven't completed or published a thing.
I'm not asking to be dead, but if God really exists, why is this young man gone while someone like me gets to continue on?
37 is way too young.
RIP Jay
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God gave us free will he does nt interfere in any way
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In true GetBig fashion, an old friend of mine crashed his bike and was killed instantly Saturday night.
He leaves behind a young son and daughter.
He was a sociology professor with several publications to his credit and had devoted his life to his family and to helping to improve the family relationships of others through teaching, counseling, his writings, and oral presentations to various groups.
Meanwhile, I'm a selfish fuck who only lives to entertain. I'm not doing anything to improve my community and while I have started several books, I haven't completed or published a thing.
I'm not asking to be dead, but if God really exists, why is this young man gone while someone like me gets to continue on?
37 is way too young.
RIP Jay
The universe is pitilessly indifferent and fairness is a human concept unknown to the reality of which we are part...
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I can't help but think he'd still be alive today if only he'd been driving a car instead of a motorcycle.
I know we're not supposed to live our lives that way, but aren't we really? I mean, as men, don't we have to take fewer risks when we've got kids to raise?
Maybe I'm looking at this all wrong...maybe my anger is clouding my compassion...maybe my own guilt and shame are the cause for my anger...and maybe that anger is really meant for me. :-[
I cannot undo 20 years of doing nothing with my life, though.
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Actually had a dream last nite my best mate died
Gave me an albeit in a dream sense of mortality
But hes not dead and we're goin playin pool in half hour
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I can't help but think he'd still be alive today if only he'd been driving a car instead of a motorcycle.
I know we're not supposed to live our lives that way, but aren't we really? I mean, as men, don't we have to take fewer risks when we've got kids to raise?
Maybe I'm looking at this all wrong...maybe my anger is clouding my compassion...maybe my own guilt and shame are the cause for my anger...and maybe that anger is really meant for me. :-[
Mate, everyone asks themselves if only..xxx. Hell today if I hadn't gone on that fucking car seat leg press I wouldn't have hurt my back. Just gotta keep on living. We're all heading for the same destination and your friend is already there, it's usually a bumpy ride.
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:'( :'(
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RIP, sorry to hear that Tre.
Who knows why things happen, I certainly don't. I sold my motorcycle a couple yrs ago because I felt the risks of getting into an accident (often the fault of a driver that doesn't see the biker, which you can't control) outweighed the pleasure of riding.
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Tre? You're just looking for order and logic in life, and at a time like this, that's what people do. Life is predominantly full of random events and stuff, tho. Go and see his widow(?) and have a chat with the two kids and let them know that you'll be there if they need something or someone. And then thank your lucky stars and really appreciate what you've got and enjoy your life! :)
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Tre? You're just looking for order and logic in life, and at a time like this, that's what people do. Life is predominantly full of random events and stuff, tho. Go and see his widow(?) and have a chat with the two kids and let them know that you'll be there if they need something or someone. And then thank your lucky stars and really appreciate what you've got and enjoy your life! :)
Thus spoke the king of morbidity... ;)
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Thus spoke the king of morbidity... ;)
Does that title come with a crown or a realm? Or at least a really cool, jeweled title belt? :)
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it all happens for a reason... with some things that's harder to see than with others
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waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!
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I'm sorry to hear of your loss Tre. :-\
If you truly feel "why him and why not you" for the reasons you stated above, then maybe it's time you changed some things in your life so you never have to feel this way again. Don't take life for granted. We aren't here forever and most of us never know when our numbers up.
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a friend, not HIS boyfriend.
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Does that title come with a crown or a realm? Or at least a really cool, jeweled title belt? :)
No regalia for thee, my liege, for thy realm is one of wisdom and that wisdom bespeaketh regality far more than the embellishments of false kings.
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In true GetBig fashion, an old friend of mine crashed his bike and was killed instantly Saturday night.
He leaves behind a young son and daughter.
He was a sociology professor with several publications to his credit and had devoted his life to his family and to helping to improve the family relationships of others through teaching, counseling, his writings, and oral presentations to various groups.
Meanwhile, I'm a selfish fuck who only lives to entertain. I'm not doing anything to improve my community and while I have started several books, I haven't completed or published a thing.
I'm not asking to be dead, but if God really exists, why is this young man gone while someone like me gets to continue on?
37 is way too young.
RIP Jay
may be his death will be the turning point in your life to be better!!..
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I can't help but think he'd still be alive today if only he'd been driving a car instead of a motorcycle.
I know we're not supposed to live our lives that way, but aren't we really? I mean, as men, don't we have to take fewer risks when we've got kids to raise?
Maybe I'm looking at this all wrong...maybe my anger is clouding my compassion...maybe my own guilt and shame are the cause for my anger...and maybe that anger is really meant for me. :-[
I cannot undo 20 years of doing nothing with my life, though.
bikes are dangerous things Tre.
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In true GetBig fashion, an old friend of mine crashed his bike and was killed instantly Saturday night.
He leaves behind a young son and daughter.
He was a sociology professor with several publications to his credit and had devoted his life to his family and to helping to improve the family relationships of others through teaching, counseling, his writings, and oral presentations to various groups.
Meanwhile, I'm a selfish fuck who only lives to entertain. I'm not doing anything to improve my community and while I have started several books, I haven't completed or published a thing.
I'm not asking to be dead, but if God really exists, why is this young man gone while someone like me gets to continue on?
37 is way too young.
RIP Jay
You know, there's a very sensitive balance in the universe that keeps order constant.
While you might think that your existence is futile and that you're only some random black guy, rejected by his own race for appearing to be gay and obsessed with snapping pictures of white women that appear to be manlier than you are, I'm here to tell you that you have way more purpose than you can imagine in this world.
Sure, your friend was a professor of Sociology who contributed his opinions to many by way of a podium or within the ravaged trees composing books, but you my friend is what I would call a Doctor of Sociology.
Do you think it is easy to be part of Getbig?
Do you for one moment think that what we do here is anything but crucial for the evolution of mankind?
You live to entertain.... Guess what, by entertaining you are essentially giving back more to mankind than what your friend did. Whereas he studied mankind, you take part in the everyday essentials of mankind. While he might have written books, if you were to gather up all of your posts on getbig and somehow organize them into something meaningful, you might have a bestseller that can potentially make good money somewhere obscure like in the Philippines. While he had a podium, undoubtedly found within the four walls of a classroom, you, in turn, have Getbig as your podium and the world is your stage.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that while dying young is never good, don't ever try to question divine intervention in matters of life and death that might make the divine blink your way and realize that your candy ass should have probably been smoked as well...
Tonight, watch a good porno by Francois Sagat, masturbate and realize when cuming that you're very lucky to be alive and able to jerk off to sweaty, muscular men for a living..
"1"
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Sorry about your friend Tre :(
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Because you don't ride a bike.
RIP :(
exactly
anybody that rides a motorcycle probably has a death wish
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In true GetBig fashion, an old friend of mine crashed his bike and was killed instantly Saturday night.
He leaves behind a young son and daughter.
He was a sociology professor with several publications to his credit and had devoted his life to his family and to helping to improve the family relationships of others through teaching, counseling, his writings, and oral presentations to various groups.
Meanwhile, I'm a selfish fuck who only lives to entertain. I'm not doing anything to improve my community and while I have started several books, I haven't completed or published a thing.
I'm not asking to be dead, but if God really exists, why is this young man gone while someone like me gets to continue on?
37 is way too young.
RIP Jay
You can't ask stupid questions like that, that's the way things go. Even 37 is no implicitness (a cousin of mine died at 20 in a car crash with some drunken assshole).
Everyday there are young children who are to blame for nothing dying of cancer, starve or getting raped, but you don't care and don't give a shit about it because it's not in your immediate surrounding and not in your field of view. When a more known person dies at 37 suddenly the world is a shithole and soooooo unfair. :P
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You can't ask stupid questions like that, that's the way things go. Even 37 is no implicitness (a cousin of mine died at 20 in a car crash with some drunken assshole).
Everyday there are young children who are to blame for nothing dying of cancer, starve or getting raped, but you don't care and don't give a shit about it because it's not in your immediate surrounding and not in your field of view. When a more known person dies at 37 suddenly the world is a shithole and soooooo unfair. :P
ZODW
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I'm not asking to be dead, but if God really exists, why is this young man gone while someone like me gets to continue on?
God loves you and has a plan for your life....even if you dont see it.
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ZODW
Zu deutsch? ???
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God loves you and has a plan for your life....even if you dont see it.
There is no god.
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Zu deutsch? ???
ZODW=Zitiert Ob Der Wahrheit
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You can't ask stupid questions like that, that's the way things go. Even 37 is no implicitness (a cousin of mine died at 20 in a car crash with some drunken assshole).
Everyday there are young children who are to blame for nothing dying of cancer, starve or getting raped, but you don't care and don't give a shit about it because it's not in your immediate surrounding and not in your field of view. When a more known person dies at 37 suddenly the world is a shithole and soooooo unfair. :P
good post
i think the guy was very selfish for riding a motorcycle when he had a family to take care of
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ZODW=Zitiert Ob Der Wahrheit
Danke, mein germanisch-amerikanischer Freund.
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sorry to hear about your friend Tre, RIP.
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I'm not asking to be dead, but if God really exists, why is this young man gone while someone like me gets to continue on?
You answered your own question.
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Danke, mein germanisch-amerikanischer Freund.
Der germanische Geist wohnt meinem Wesen inne... ;D
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good post
i think the guy was very selfish for riding a motorcycle when he had a family to take care of
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I disagree.
hindsight is 20/20
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I'm sorry to hear about that Tre...I haven't had someone close to me pass away yet (it will happen sooner or later to all of us), but from what I observe, it's a normal feeling to process.
You'll bounce back, and at least you can be proud to say knew a good guy in your life.
SM
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I'm sorry to hear about that Tre...I haven't had someone close to me pass away yet (it will happen sooner or later to all of us), but from what I observe, it's a normal feeling to process.
You'll bounce back, and at least you can be proud to say knew a good guy in your life.
SM
Yeah, after they died they were all "good guys". Beforehand you slander behind their backs.... ::)
(sorry for the dose reality, unsentimental, I know;)
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You answered your own question.
We dont know the answer to everything. Some events/circumstances in life can not be totally understood. Not everything can be easily explained.
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I used to talk with a Roman Catholic Priest at the Downtown YMCA in Houston between sets and in the locker room. He was a teacher at the University of St. Thomas. He said that if you pray and ask for God to Reveal Himself to you, he would. I have never done this, and I have to admit I have doubts, but I don't reject totally the possibility.
In high school the only individual who treated me as a person smashed his Mustang Mach 1 head on into a fully loaded concrete truck. Age 17 as opposed to 37, and thus took away my only human contact. I am still angered by it, and I have to admit if there is a Supreme Being, I am still angry at Him.
I have no definitive answers, but an interesting movie with this subject is "Amadeus". Many people miss the point of the film in that the movie is primarily about a guy (Salieri) who is SUPREMELY pissed off at God. I don't know if it will help you spiritually to watch it, but the music is calming and great.
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I used to talk with a Roman Catholic Priest at the Downtown YMCA in Houston between sets and in the locker room. He was a teacher at the University of St. Thomas. He said that if you pray and ask for God to Reveal Himself to you, he would. I have never done this, and I have to admit I have doubts, but I don't reject totally the possibility.
In high school the only individual who treated me as a person smashed his Mustang Mach 1 head on into a fully loaded concrete truck. Age 17 as opposed to 37, and thus took away my only human contact. I am still angered by it, and I have to admit if there is a Supreme Being, I am still angry at Him.
I have no definitive answers, but an interesting movie with this subject is "Amadeus". Many people miss the point of the film in that the movie is primarily about a guy (Salieri) who is SUPREMELY pissed off at God. I don't know if it will help you spiritually to watch it, but the music is calming and great.
Sync....if you have time, read the book of Job (the oldest book of the Bible)
Its about a man who lost everything...his family, his wealth, his health....and he didnt understand why (Job didnt know that satan existed)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=22&chapter=1&version=45
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The universe is pitilessly indifferent and fairness is a human concept unknown to the reality of which we are part...
How can you truly know that your statement = true?
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In true GetBig fashion, an old friend of mine crashed his bike and was killed instantly Saturday night.
He leaves behind a young son and daughter.
He was a sociology professor with several publications to his credit and had devoted his life to his family and to helping to improve the family relationships of others through teaching, counseling, his writings, and oral presentations to various groups.
Meanwhile, I'm a selfish fuck who only lives to entertain. I'm not doing anything to improve my community and while I have started several books, I haven't completed or published a thing.
I'm not asking to be dead, but if God really exists, why is this young man gone while someone like me gets to continue on?
37 is way too young.
RIP Jay
There is no god. Your friend and everyone who owns a motorcycle, in my opinion, is partaking in a moronic hobby which solely invites danger. Now he has left behind his children, his obligations all because of the cheap thrill he desired riding a motorcycle.
Pathetic.
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sorry for your loss Tre. I don't personally believe in fate or karma, in my opinion people cling to that because they are afraid that life is just a string of random events and we could go at anytime.
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tribute video to you and your friend. :D
:D
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Sorry to hear Tre. Hope his family can recover from their loss
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In true GetBig fashion, an old friend of mine crashed his bike and was killed instantly Saturday night.
He leaves behind a young son and daughter.
He was a sociology professor with several publications to his credit and had devoted his life to his family and to helping to improve the family relationships of others through teaching, counseling, his writings, and oral presentations to various groups.
Meanwhile, I'm a selfish fuck who only lives to entertain. I'm not doing anything to improve my community and while I have started several books, I haven't completed or published a thing.
I'm not asking to be dead, but if God really exists, why is this young man gone while someone like me gets to continue on?
37 is way too young.
RIP Jay
There is no God... That is why.
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My condolences for you and your friends family.
If anything, take away that life can be too short and enjoy yours.
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There is no God... That is why.
How can you actually know? Are you sure you are not making an assumption here?
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We dont know the answer to everything. Some events/circumstances in life can not be totally understood. Not everything can be easily explained.
We don't know that there is a big mumba jumba at the bottom of the sea either but we don't believe in it do we? What about a pink unicorn or a talking china tea pot orbiting earth?
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How can you actually know? Are you sure you are not making an assumption here?
We can never be 100% sure but that doesn't mean we believe in it. It is highly unlikely. A talking vacuum cleaner is about as likely as a God.
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We can never be 100% sure but that doesn't mean we believe in it. It is highly unlikely. A talking vacuum cleaner is about as likely as a God.
Badabing, we can never know 100%.
That being said, the typical image of an "allmighty god" found in crappy and illogical religious dogma's = stupid idea.
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Badabing, we can never know 100%.
That being said, the typical image of an "allmighty god" found in crappy and illogical religious dogma's = stupid idea.
Agnostics are atheists without balls :)
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In true GetBig fashion, an old friend of mine crashed his bike and was killed instantly Saturday night.
He leaves behind a young son and daughter.
He was a sociology professor with several publications to his credit and had devoted his life to his family and to helping to improve the family relationships of others through teaching, counseling, his writings, and oral presentations to various groups.
Meanwhile, I'm a selfish fuck who only lives to entertain. I'm not doing anything to improve my community and while I have started several books, I haven't completed or published a thing.
I'm not asking to be dead, but if God really exists, why is this young man gone while someone like me gets to continue on?
37 is way too young.
RIP Jay
bump this then read my sermon below it.......
sorry to hear about your loss. it wasn't his time it seems. I had a friend go down in the same fashion...he had a wife and 2 little girls...my sister called me over the phone and told me. Had a brother die in our driveway. Bleed to death as my sister held him and I came out...driveby. I've had my share...you'll pull through even stronger I promise
Just try to not let his death be in vain. If he could tell you something now it would be to count your blessings and live each day to the max. Whatever you never did or felt you should be doing......do it now. Whatever you never told loved ones or should be telling them....tell them. You never know when your ticket is going to get punched, so live your life.
Mourn him, cry, get it out...that's all good. Just remember to take the proper steps in order to make him proud and not take any negative steps to make him frown down on you.
take it easy man.
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Agnostics are atheists without balls :)
Everybody not praying to Gary Busey every night = low life scum 8)
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Sorry for your loss - when things like this occur, you have no rhyme or reason.
But saying there is no God, or no spirit or something, is for ones who never truly felt anything. I know there is something out there - what - we don't know yet.
You can only strive to do what you feel is better for you - be a good father, donate or give some time to a charity, spend time on doing things you like, and help people out.
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A bike isn't necessarily dangerous, plenty have riden with no aproblem. It's how it's riden, the degree of speed, ability to see others and compensate for bad drivers, in most cases.
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My condolences Tre.
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I'm not asking to be dead, but if God really exists, why is this young man gone while someone like me gets to continue on?
There is/are no god/s.
You say "continue on" as if you're getting a pass. It only means you aren't dead yet. I guarantee you, whether you write a million books or never write one at all, you will die. The significance of your life is only relevant to those that you love, loved you, and are dependent on you. Enjoy the moments and avoid extracting cosmic meaning and mysticism from things that happen in between.
My condolences to you and his family.
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Tre, forgive me if I'm reading so far between the lines that I'm seeing what isn't there, but it sounds like you are dissatisfied with the progress and direction of your own life and you're trying to come to terms with your mortality. If this event is a catalyst for some heavy duty introspection and it's going to be crisis time, then let it be crisis time. Make some life changing decisions. The worst that can happen is you make a bad decision, but you clearly can't carry on as you have been.
Crisis can be very cathartic. I know. I go through one about every 36 hours. ::)
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When it's your time, it's your time. He was lucky to go out fast and doing something he enjoyed. Look at all the poor bastards who die of a long term illness in a hospital bed.
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Sorry for your loss - when things like this occur, you have no rhyme or reason.
But saying there is no God, or no spirit or something, is for ones who never truly felt anything. I know there is something out there - what - we don't know yet.
You can only strive to do what you feel is better for you - be a good father, donate or give some time to a charity, spend time on doing things you like, and help people out.
no you don't KNOW there is something out there.you BELIEVE there is something out there.believing and knowing are to different things.
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If he dies, he dies.... that's how I live my life. Live fast die fun. I don't expect to make it past my 30s though.
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If he dies, he dies.... that's how I live my life. Live fast die fun. I don't expect to make it past my 30s though.
Hell yeah!
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If he dies, he dies.... that's how I live my life. Live fast die fun. I don't expect to make it past my 30s though.
thats all well and good but......Idiot's with that mind set often end up doing something stupid that cost's others there lives as well.
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thats all well and good but......Idiot's with that mind set often end up doing something stupid that cost's others there lives as well.
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Thanks to everyone for your kind and motivational words...and for taking the time to write anything at all, even you OneMoreRep. ;)
I won't make any rash decisions right now, but you can be sure that I'll be taking a lot of your advice to heart in deciding my next moves and the wise counsel you have given me will not leave me, ever.
Life is what it is and death - whether sudden or expected - is a part of it.
On a related note, another old friend and I just reconnected via Facebook recently. She left her number, so I think I'm going to give her a call today.
Folks, I can guarantee that the sun will come up tomorrow, but I cannot guarantee that a single one of us will be here to see it. Embrace the moment and quit talking about 'later' when it comes to letting someone important know that you care. Do it now...leave this life with no regrets.
PIP
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always sad to hear when a fellow biker goes down..
last month my boy got hit in a head on crash. the driver of the car dead. my boy flipped over the car, not a scratch.
he stood up off the pegs before impact. this is the advantage of a sport bike.. in a cruiser your down low and leaning back.
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If he dies, he dies.... that's how I live my life. Live fast die fun. I don't expect to make it past my 30s though.
Spoken like an impulsive, selfish 20-something.
Wake up one day, you're 30 ...