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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Neptune100 on May 19, 2009, 09:38:36 PM
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Similarities:
short biceps, but huge bicep peaks
lack in tricep thickness especially from the side
wanting abdominals
huge thighs
huge backs, low lat insertion
ripped glutes and hams
huge nostrils
Differences:
Ronnies chest much thicker
Kai's thighs more ripped
Kai has better calves
What else?
(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/2009/results/2009arnoldclassic_greene2.jpg) (http://www.sportowiec.org/wp-content/uploads/image/Kulturystyka/Kai%20Green%20arnold%20classic%202009.jpg)
(http://graysmatter.codivation.com/content/binary/Ronniecoleman.jpg) (http://i.b5z.net/i/u/230085/i/Ronnie_Coleman.jpg)
(http://s.bebo.com/app-image/7927331874/5411656627/PROFILE/i.quizzaz.com/img/q/u/08/04/20/Perfection.jpg) (http://www.bigroncoleman.com/photos/gallery2000.htm)
(http://www.musclesportmag.com/wp-content/uploads/kaia.jpg)
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Ronnie owns Kai. THE END
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Ronnie started with a much smaller waist.
Also Ronnie is into peanuts, while kai is all about the citrus.
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citrus is extremely healthy...could a pre Mr.Olympia Ronnie beat Kai Greene in Arnold classic form?
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Ronnie shits all over Kai
Seriously, he owns him so bad I can't even see the reason behind that thread
Ronnie pwns
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Kai all the way. :o
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ronnie mops the floor with kai
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ronnie mops the floor with kai
How so?
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Ronnie shits all over Kai
Seriously, he owns him so bad I can't even see the reason behind that thread
Ronnie pwns
I would agree 8)
although the grapefruit fucker has great abs and quads,
ronine's arms, chest, taper, back, glute and hams are all far far superior.
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the point is compare/contrast if you read the subject ::)...not decide who is better, unless Kai wins several Olympias its pretty pointless to argue that
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How so?
like this 8)
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I wouldnt put Ronnies hams and glutes far superior
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Kai can up his placings by getting posing lessons from this guy
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ronnie's arms are much more freaky but the grapefruit penetrator has much better abs. and chest.
the grapefruit violator also has much less definition in the biceps, but has a great peak.
the grapefruit poker also has freaker striations in the outer quads, while ronnie does not, but has deep seperation between the musclegroups.
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the point is compare/contrast if you read the subject ::)...not decide who is better, unless Kai wins several Olympias its pretty pointless to argue that
ive compared their physiques, and contrasted that kai doesnt come close.
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like this 8)
No offense Ronnie was good but I think Kai has far more potential.
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I actually like Kai's mm better than Ronnie in those two particular pictures...I believe that was Kai at the Colorado Pro 2 years ago where he got first...that was before he put on a bunch of muscle
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No offense Ronnie was good but I think Kai has far more potential.
how old is the grapefruit slammer? 8)
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ive compared their physiques, and contrasted that kai doesnt come close.
I like how you just BLUF it...Bottom Line Up Front... however I was looking for more observations between the two than conclusions...obviously Ronnie reigns but Kai is no slouch and if he wins an Olympia or two you can put him in the arguement
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obviously Ronnie reigns but Kai is no slouch and if he wins an Olympia or two eight you can put him in the arguement
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fixed 8)
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I like how you just BLUF it...Bottom Line Up Front... however I was looking for more observations between the two than conclusions...obviously Ronnie reigns but Kai is no slouch and if he wins an Olympia or two you can put him in the arguement
bluf it Lol. How about no,scott.
kai is a blocky african samurai. His physique doesnt deserve mentioning in the same context with coleman. It's that serious.
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Kai-better presentation
better quads
better abs/waist
better calves
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Ronnie beats Kai in:
Chest, Biceps definition, Back Thickness.
Kai bests Ronnie in:
Better and more pleasing shape, condition, Abs + smaller waist line, Triceps, Full Lower Lats and the WHOLE LOWER BODY!!
If Kai can bring up his chest, he will look more complete than Ronnie was (at once) ;)
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Ronnie beats Kai in:
Chest, Biceps definition, Back Thickness.
Kai bests Ronnie in:
Better and more pleasing shape, condition, Abs + smaller waist line, Triceps, Full Lower Lats and the WHOLE LOWER BODY!!
If Kai can bring his chest up a little bit more, he will look more complete that Ronnie was (at once) ;)
thats pretty right on
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Kai needs to bring up his shoulder width as well
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THE BEST REAR LAT SPREAD I HAVE EVER SEEN 8)
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THE BEST RARE LAT SPREAD I HAVE EVER SEEN 8)
Quite rare indeed.......
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If you think Kai is even in the same league as Ronnie, you obviously don't know much about this bodybuilding thing...
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This thread is
apples and oranges peanuts and grapefruits.
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Kai can up his placings by getting posing lessons from this guy
hahah
i want to go to a club and see him in the middle breaking it down
hahahah
hilarious
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Quite rare indeed.......
Shut up.......
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kai needs a chest.
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Not on the same planet did someone say kai has better tris than Coleman :-\ coleman tris were some of the biggest they were prscticslly falling off the back of his elbow the 3heads just wasn't as prounounced as some other bbers watch his DVDs cod and unbelivable his arm looks like a full circle even when relaxed and from some angles bigger than his head
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same color..
diff. hair style..
;D
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THE BEST REAR LAT SPREAD I HAVE EVER SEEN 8)
No.
The best "rear lat spread" you have ever seen is your boyfriends, when its your "turn" and he leans for you. ::)
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kai is a joke
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sorry, while Kai may have a great physique now, i just cant see he beating Ronnie im a hypothetical competition...And his waist is not 'that' smaller anyway...
they dont have any comparison
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Most of the pictures you posted where terrible, put the mandatory poses next to eachother.
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(http://www.emusclemag.com/content/news/image/image01.jpg)
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Ronnie had massive quads with good separation while Kai has plenty of size and those crazy striations
on hamstrings, Greene kills him
(http://www.strongman.pl/zdjecia/news_stal_50.jpg) (http://www.hardcorebodybuildingontheweb.com/precontestbible/Ronnie_Coleman_2.jpg)
(http://www.musclemedsrx.com/images/kaigreen.jpg)
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Kai is a freak, however he is nowhere near the level of Ronnie Coleman yet. I'd say Kaia's quads are compare well and his back, but that's about it. Kai would be out-massed standing next to Ronnie.
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Ronnie had massive quads with good separation while Kai has plenty of size and those crazy striations
on hamstrings, Greene kills him
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like this 8)
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Ronnie had massive quads with good separation while Kai has plenty of size and those crazy striations
on hamstrings, Greene kills him
(http://www.strongman.pl/zdjecia/news_stal_50.jpg) (http://www.hardcorebodybuildingontheweb.com/precontestbible/Ronnie_Coleman_2.jpg)
(http://www.musclemedsrx.com/images/kaigreen.jpg)
you realize that from these pictures ronnies hams are much more defined and seperated right, in the side shots. Not to mention his legs would be much larger then kais is the comparison was to scale.
ronnie legs are more detailed then kais, kai has striations, but you can see all four heads in ronnies quads along with deeper seperation, and the cuts start more proximal then kais. sorry i couldnt think of a word, fuck off :P
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Similarities:
short biceps, but huge bicep peaks
lack in tricep thickness especially from the side
wanting abdominals
huge thighs
huge backs, low lat insertion
ripped glutes and hams
huge nostrils
Differences:
Ronnies chest much thicker
Kai's thighs more ripped
Kai has better calves
What else?
congratulations on posting without doubt the most rediculous comparison ever posted on getbig, and perhaps the bodybuilding web.
ronnie and kai should never be mentioned in the same sentence, ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder ever, his work ethic, morals and strength are on another level.
kai fucks grapefruit, poses for schmoes, g4p, has a narrow back and enormous gut - that is growing with every show.
In short he is an abomination.
in all honesty i don't think you will ever recover from this stupid thread. i believe you should delete your acount and create a new one.
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ronnie legs are more detailed then kais, kai has striations, but you can see all four heads in ronnies quads along with deeper seperation, and the cuts start more proximal then kais. sorry i couldnt think of a word, fuck off :P
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::) wow you're reaching...Ronnie was known to have huge quads but one of his criticisms was his lack of detail and separation...
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congratulations on posting without doubt the most rediculous comparison ever posted on getbig, and perhaps the bodybuilding web.
ronnie and kai should never be mentioned in the same sentence, ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder ever, his work ethic, morals and strength are on another level.
kai fucks grapefruit, poses for schmoes, g4p, has a narrow back and enormous gut - that is growing with every show.
In short he is an abomination.
in all honesty i don't think you will ever recover from this stupid thread. i believe you should delete your acount and create a new one.
sorry buddy i dont care enough to start a new account and damn you must be tough for calling out a guy with 25 posts you must have alot of charisma...oh and its ridiculous not rediculous
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sorry buddy i dont care enough to start a new account and damn you must be tough for calling out a guy with 25 posts you must have alot of charisma...oh and its ridiculous not rediculous
calm down princess
you obviously care enough to call me out for spelling ridiculous wrong hahahaha
also how did you get that i was tough because i called you out ??? or that i have lots of charisma ???
don't be so sensitive sweet pea, kai is nowhere near ronnies level - get over it.
p.s. it's don't not 'dont', and 'alot' isn't a word, it's a lot ;D ;)
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calm down princess
you obviously care enough to call me out for spelling ridiculous wrong hahahaha
also how did you get that i was tough because i called you out ??? or that i have lots of charisma ???
don't be so sensitive sweet pea, kai is nowhere near ronnies level - get over it.
p.s. it's don't not 'dont', and 'alot' isn't a word, it's a lot ;D ;)
contractions are contractions, big words are different... ;D
oh I I figured you were tough by your 4000+ posts...you must be a bodybuilding expert...
this was originally supposed to be a comparison thread...but since everyone bashed on Kai I decided to take his defense...now that he is an Arnold Classic champion he CAN be compared to Ronnie, just like Levrone, Ray, Nasser and other greats have been compared.
(http://www.videosdeculturismo.com/images/kai-greene-coloradopro2007.jpg)
(http://www.vseokulturistice.cz/clanky/pic/346a.jpg) (http://creditplushealth.org/health%20picture/ronnie%20coleman%202%20mr%20olympia%202003.jpg)
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(http://www.mostmuscular.com/newmuscle.cx/olympia/coleman7.jpg)
notice how I dont post pics of a Kai Greene at his best against an out of shape Ronnie... Ronnie is at his best in these pics and so is Kai...to me it doesnt seem like Ronnie is blowing Kai away
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yeah ronnie really lacks tris... he has lacking tris like kai
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(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/RonnieColeman36.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/ronowningeveryone.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/coleman.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/massivecoleman.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/massivecoleman.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/massivecoleman.jpg)
yup no tris.... :-\
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Ronnie had huge tri's but by the end of his career they became a weak point
(http://bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia2004/olympia2004-f_bild01.jpg) (http://athleteprofessional.com/uploads/posts/2008-04/thumbs/1207520824_aaaab0498.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/photopost/data/521/medium/2006olympia_mf337.jpg)
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yes his tri and lats got injured
towards the end
nut NO way should kai green be mentioned in the same sentence when it comes to tris...
or phsique for that matter
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wow you're reaching...Ronnie was known to have huge quads but one of his criticisms was his lack of detail and separation...
not when he was in shape: 8)
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can the grapefruit stabber match this?
not yet. 8)
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since we are comparing and contrasting:
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those pictures are obviously different quality pics...of course though Ronnie at his best was better than anyone but who knows what Kai could wind up becoming...and the Kai at this years Arnold would have been a bigger threat to Ronnie than Jay Cutler was when they were competing ever year for the Olympia IMO
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to me, the grapefruit poker has a great physique, but lacks the freakiness of ronnie's upper body especially.,
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those pictures are obviously different quality pics...of course though Ronnie at his best was better than anyone but who knows what Kai could wind up becoming...and the Kai at this years Arnold would have been a bigger threat to Ronnie than Jay Cutler was when they were competing ever year for the Olympia IMO
I think the grapefruit mounter could develop a crazy phyisque given time. its just too bad he has public pics of him fucking a grapefruit.. :-\
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a friend once told me if a man builds a 1000 bridges and sucks one ****, he will always be known as a **** sucker...however Im not going to judge him there are higher authorities than myself...and I am a fan of his physique and of him recently
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The arm is just crazy here.
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/coleman.jpg)
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Kai's got a lot of potential still. Nowhere near Ronnie at his best for the moment..
Kai does have a good rear lat spread, but i think it's helped alot by the fact that he has a short torso and long legs. It's quite evident in this pose.
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Yeah ronnie had no tris yet kevin levrone (king of triceps is getting owned)... Every bodybuilder looks good on there own. Ronnie would dwarf kai
(http://www.fisioculturismo.es/images/KevinLevroneRonnieColeman-culturismo-entrenamientos-piernas.jpg)
Ronnie wins:
Mass
Freakiness
Chest
Traps
Back
Delts
Biceps
Triceps
Forearms
Ronnies quads would dwarf kais.
Relaxed
Most muscular
Double biceps
Back double biceps
Glutes
Height
Ronnies entire upperbody..
Do not even compare kai greene to ronnie.
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kai.. will never be half of ronnie....
he phsique just doesnt flow he has an amazingly short torso... and looks boxy... with a "wide" waiste alreads
at their best heath dexter victor wolf are better...
better flow of phsique...
he is way way way from been even justifiably been mentioned in the same sentence with ronnie
great legs and back.. thats it...
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Kai = great bodybuilder
Ronnie = among the greatest EVER
NO CONTEST
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Kai = great bodybuilder
Ronnie = among the greatest EVER
NO CONTEST
Fixed.
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Kai = great bodybuilder
Ronnie = among the greatest EVER
NO CONTEST
x2. I like both of their physiques but Kai doesn't have the capability to add such mass and still look good as Ronnie did. Kai looks good but he is no Ronnie.
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(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/42/images/Ronnie_Coleman_photo792.jpg)(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=33621&g2_serialNumber=4&g2_GALLERYSID=91310ca58181c5763e048fb4ae9dfb62)
:P
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levrone tris are more seperated... all heads clearly pronounced....
but for sheer size coleman wins even wehn he isnt doin a tri pose
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/colemadamn.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/massivecoleman.jpg)
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levrone tris are more seperated... all heads clearly pronounced....
but for sheer size coleman wins even wehn he isnt doin a tri pose
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/colemadamn.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/massivecoleman.jpg)
Size Ronnie is bigger , overall Kevin's is better
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Size Ronnie is bigger , overall Kevin's is better
i didnt say colemans was better...
but if i had tochoos a pair of arms it would be colemans big and round.. wheeler ... too...
kevin had great tris.. but ... lacked peak on the bi
so overall id say colman has better ARMS
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Size Ronnie is bigger , overall Kevin's is better
I agree. We also need to consider structure.
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I agree. We also need to consider structure.
Plus he's white! :D
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Plus he's white! :D
A Chinese guy, a black guy, and an Italian guy are having brunch with Kevin Levrone. Why? It's father's day.
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Hulkster post that pic I think it's from one of the grand prix when both levrone and donnie are doing a hands clasped most muscular and ronnies tris blows kevins away
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ronnie has fantastic tris: not as good as Kevin's, but still underrated.
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Hulkster post that pic I think it's from one of the grand prix when both levrone and donnie are doing a hands clasped most muscular and ronnies tris blows kevins away
yes
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ironically, Ronnie's tris probably looked better in the arms clasped mm (kevin's signature shot) than Kevin's did.
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Put on your glasses and look again.
yes, I see kevin's smooth, puffy hardly any vascularity arms.. :P
this is my favorite Kevin photo
bwahahahaa
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hahah
i want to go to a club and see him in the middle breaking it down
hahahah
hilarious
Why? So you can come up and give him a lap booty dance that your black girl friend taught you in hopes of bringing him home to give you a "deep tissue massage" and a little bit of colondrizzle?
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As many of you already have mentioned - the existence of this thread is an insult to the best bodybuilder ever competed.
Kai G. is a very talented and gifted bodybuilder but to have the nerves to compare him to someone like Kai = "death penalty" ;)
Ronnie is a legend, a myth and a God.
I don't even consider this phenomenon being human.
Of course he had his flaws but the sad part is - we will never see someone like Ronnie again.
I consider myself lucky to even had the chance to follow his career when he was competing.
End of thread.
(My idol is Kevin Levrone but sometimes you have to be true to yourself. So I am not a "Ronnie-guy". I just state facts.)
(No, not a "Meltdown", just my thoughts on this thread. I know I have not 2000 posts but have followed this site nearly for a decade now.)
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MemberX:
You took the words out of my mouth!
It's sad, we will never see a new era like the 90's!
When Levrone posed to Staind - "So far away" in 2003...I knew it was his last show, his eyes couldn't lie.
After that I were waiting for Ronnie to break the record but.. fucck!
As levrone said in M3: "Now, everything is so scientific 'n' shit..I've always believed in hardcore training.."
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MemberX:
You took the words out of my mouth!
It's sad, we will never see a new era like the 90's!
When Levrone posed to Staind - "So far away" in 2003...I knew it was his last show, his eyes couldn't lie.
After that I were waiting for Ronnie to break the record but.. fucck!
As levrone said in M3: "Now, everything is so scientific 'n' shit..I've always believed in hardcore training.."
Levrone's best chance to win the O was 02 because Ronnie was way off. That was the first Mr. O show I have ever attended and it was a great show. Before each competitor came out they showed the BFTO footage on a big screen. Ronnie looked absolutely insane in the BFTO footage 2 weeks out and the crowd was going nuts in anticipation. Unfortunately he was much smaller and less conditioned on the day of the show and looked nothing like the video (in 2003 he brought that freaky size to the show).
Kevin looked unreal, although his legs weren't at their best and that probably kept him from winning as Ronnie's legs were still crazy. Nonetheless I didn't think Ronnie deserved it that year.
Here are some pics of that show...
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Here are a few more. Dex also looked great - the comparison with he and Levrone shows just how good Dexter really is.
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actually, levrone competed in 2003 at the O and ronnie owned him like he always did 8)
holy crap look at the size of ronnie's arms compared to gunter's :o :o:
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03 was arguably Ronnie's most dominant Mr. O showing. After Gunter's 02 success, everyone thought he had a chance to de-throne Ronnie. As your pic shows, Ronnie was untouchable that year and he truly shut everyone up. I also attended the 03 Mr. O and Ronnie's waist - despite looking large in certain pics - looked small because of the mass he carried on his chest, shoulders, and back.
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I agree that Ronnie shouldn't have won in 02. In 03, however, he raised the bar to a new level. Look at how huge his quads are compared to Jay's.
Btw....if Jay could duplicate this look the 2009 Mr. O is his. He looked awesome in 03!
In order to stick to the original thread and include Kai in the discussion, I don't think Kai could beat Jay in this form.
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I know who I and probably 99% of the population would rather look like.
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ronnie mops the floor with kai
How?
He turns him upside down and wets his head, that's how...
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Here's a good comparison...I don't think Ronnie's larger legs and back justified his 02 win. Look at that distention :-[
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Are you pointing out that Ronnie looked like he was 13 months pregnant and was ready to give birth to an alien?
Not sure why pros sacrifice quality for size and consequently THAT :-X
For instance, despite Ronnie's dominance in 03, he looked much better at a lighter weight, e.g. 98/99/01(AC). Even at his lighter weights Ronnie had a distention problem when he was relaxed. There are pics of him relaxed at the 01 AC - most say his best showing - and his stomach is just as distented.
Here is a good comparison of Kevin and Ronnie's tris. Notice Ronnie's stomach compared to Kevin's as well....
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yes
pwned at his own pose.....
for all the people who says ronnie has no tris ::)....
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Out of the pics from 2000 the riceps is the only hint of weakness and he's still holding off Kevin who is all triceps and delts. Everything else: chest,back,quads, HAMS, biceps Ronnie ass-raping everyone on stage. He even has the appearance of more shoulder size and equal tris. No contest that time around. Then there's the lines in the ass which judges love......
Ronnie 2002 was pretty whack, he wa visibly small and depleted. His back was still insane, but his front was not. So I would maybe kive that one to Kevin. But Kevin scuppered his own chances by only training for like 12 weeks and forgetting to bring any wheels!
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This is as close as anyone has come to comparing with Ronnie's back lat spread...better back lat spread than Levrone, Wheeler, Ray, Nasser, Cutler, Jackson and the list continues...
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=269794.0;attach=321973;image)
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Think the main difference between his rear latspread from Ronnies is the Traps. If Kai can get his traps bigger, it will look even more impressive
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Very comparable here
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=281617.0;attach=321716;image) (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=269794.0;attach=321972;image)
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No.
The best "rear lat spread" you have ever seen is your boyfriends, when its your "turn" and he leans for you. ::)
Are you Okay ..? ???
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Rare lat spread.........very rare.
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Not even close....Ronnie 10x better.
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I give Kai the slight edge over Ronnie on nostril development.