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Title: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Deicide on May 29, 2009, 06:43:16 AM
Isn't everything in the USA supposed to be the best? Not even one city on the top ten list...

Mercer's Quality of Living Survey 2009
 City Country Rating
1 Vienna Austria 108.6
2 Zurich Switzerland 108
3 Geneva Switzerland 107.9
4 Vancouver Canada 107.4
5 Auckland New Zealand 107.4
6 Düsseldorf Germany 107.2
7 Munich Germany 107
8 Frankfurt Germany 106.8
9 Bern Switzerland 106.5
10 Sydney Australia 106.3


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World%27s_Most_Livable_Cities
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: 24KT on May 30, 2009, 12:04:50 AM
Isn't everything in the USA supposed to be the best? Not even one city on the top ten list...

Mercer's Quality of Living Survey 2009
 City Country Rating
1 Vienna Austria 108.6
2 Zurich Switzerland 108
3 Geneva Switzerland 107.9
4 Vancouver Canada 107.4
5 Auckland New Zealand 107.4
6 Düsseldorf Germany 107.2
7 Munich Germany 107
8 Frankfurt Germany 106.8
9 Bern Switzerland 106.5
10 Sydney Australia 106.3


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World%27s_Most_Livable_Cities

 :o  WTF?  How did Vancouver make the list and Toronto didn't? That's BS. We was robbed. Robbed I tell ya!  >:(

We did ok last year, ...but still don't think Vancouver deserved to be above Toronto.

The Economist's World's Most Livable Cities 2008
 
 1 Vancouver Canada 98.8
 2 Melbourne Australia 98.2
 3 Vienna Austria 97.9
 4 Perth Australia 97.3
 5 Toronto Canada 97.0
 6 Helsinki Finland 96.9
 7 Adelaide Australia 96.6
 8 Calgary Canada 96.6
 9 Geneva Switzerland 96.1
10 Sydney Australia 96.1
11 Zürich Switzerland 96.1
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Deicide on May 30, 2009, 02:01:23 AM
:o  WTF?  How did Vancouver make the list and Toronto didn't? That's BS. We was robbed. Robbed I tell ya!  >:(

We did ok last year, ...but still don't think Vancouver deserved to be above Toronto.

The Economist's World's Most Livable Cities 2008
 
 1 Vancouver Canada 98.8
 2 Melbourne Australia 98.2
 3 Vienna Austria 97.9
 4 Perth Australia 97.3
 5 Toronto Canada 97.0
 6 Helsinki Finland 96.9
 7 Adelaide Australia 96.6
 8 Calgary Canada 96.6
 9 Geneva Switzerland 96.1
10 Sydney Australia 96.1
11 Zürich Switzerland 96.1


Regardless, American cities are noticeably absent.
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Stormspirit on May 30, 2009, 06:30:55 AM
The US has much better towns than cities, especially in new england.  all our cities are minority(crime) infested, i don't know what their criteria is but manhattan specifically doesn't have much crime at all. I do think boston is much better than vancouver though.
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Deicide on May 30, 2009, 06:32:06 AM
The US has much better towns than cities, especially in new england. most all our cities are minority(crime) infested.  I do think boston is much better than vancouver though.

If you could implement it, would you favour ethnic cleansing?
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Stormspirit on May 30, 2009, 07:03:03 AM
If you could implement it, would you favour ethnic cleansing?
haha, naw... send all the mexicans back to mexico, give blacks a part of the US, then have strict guidelines(only smart people) for immigration, problem solved

what I want to know is the 39 criteria for this list are,what's your favorite city in the world?
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Deicide on May 30, 2009, 07:41:03 AM
haha, naw... send all the mexicans back to mexico, give blacks a part of the US, then have strict guidelines(only smart people) for immigration, problem solved

what I want to know is the 39 criteria for this list are,what's your favorite city in the world?

I haven't lived in every one so I can't say which is my favourite.

Of the ones I have lived in for a long time I liked Berlin the most.
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Stormspirit on May 30, 2009, 07:51:16 AM
I haven't lived in every one so I can't say which is my favourite.

Of the ones I have lived in for a long time I liked Berlin the most.
24hr metro=teh shit. only nyc and berlin have that(berlin only on the weekends though?), and berlin is cheap.
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Benny B on May 30, 2009, 07:58:51 AM
haha, naw... send all the mexicans back to mexico, give blacks a part of the US, then have strict guidelines(only smart people) for immigration, problem solved

what I want to know is the 39 criteria for this list are,what's your favorite city in the world?
Who's going to "give blacks a part of the U.S."? The president?
(http://eev.liu.edu/KK/election/meetthecandidates/images/Barack%20Obama%20Capitol.jpg)

I'm sure he enjoys being president of all 50 states.  ;)
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Stormspirit on May 30, 2009, 08:01:54 AM
Who's going to "give blacks a part of the U.S."? The president?

It's not going to happen obviously, this country is going to become third world.
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Benny B on May 30, 2009, 08:09:55 AM
It's not going to happen obviously, this country is going to become third world.
You are free to leave...
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Stormspirit on May 30, 2009, 08:18:23 AM
You are free to leave...
no, this is my country.
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Stormspirit on May 30, 2009, 08:20:02 AM
I hope you're not white, you're a disgrace to our founding fathers.
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: 240 is Back on May 30, 2009, 08:27:33 AM
I'm sure he enjoys being president of all 50 states.  ;)

57 states.  He has spent his first 110 days in office searching for those elusive 7 states.  So far, he's learnt about puerto rico and district of columbia, but...
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Stormspirit on May 30, 2009, 08:33:57 AM
district of columbia is rich as a cock
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Deicide on May 30, 2009, 08:35:54 AM
24hr metro=teh shit. only nyc and berlin have that(berlin only on the weekends though?), and berlin is cheap.

Yeah, only on Fridays and Saturdays, else till 1 AM but it's been over 3 years...anyway weekdays you better not go out too far, one downside to Berlin is its vastness, stretched out to the max.
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Benny B on May 30, 2009, 10:20:51 AM
I hope you're not white, you're a disgrace to our founding fathers.
Uhhh...your "founding fathers" are dead.  :P
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Deicide on May 30, 2009, 10:41:04 AM
Bump for not a single American city on that list.
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Fury on May 30, 2009, 10:44:17 AM
Bump for not a single American city on that list.

Yes, bump for our favorite wannabe European. The funny thing about that list is all of the Getbiggers who actually live in or near those cities were laughing at how absurd it is. But if trying to be European (which you're not) makes you feel better, go ahead. Keep bumping the list like it proves something.  ::)

Take all the uneducated, welfare leeching trash out of the US cities and they probably move up the list.


It is amusing how bitter you are at America, though. Blame the country, not the fact that you majored in a shit field like German lit (or w/e it was) for the fact that you have nothing to show at 31 years of age.
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Stormspirit on May 30, 2009, 10:46:52 AM
Yes, bump for our favorite wannabe European. The funny thing about that list is all of the Getbiggers who actually live in or near those cities were laughing at how absurd it is. But if trying to be European (which you're not) makes you feel better, go ahead. Keep bumping the list like it proves something.  ::)

Take all the uneducated, welfare leeching trash out of the US cities and they probably move up the list.


It is amusing how bitter you are at America, though. Blame the country, not the fact that you majored in a shit field like German lit (or w/e it was) for the fact that you have nothing to show at 31 years of age.
QFT
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Stormspirit on May 30, 2009, 10:50:14 AM
Yes, bump for our favorite wannabe European. The funny thing about that list is all of the Getbiggers who actually live in or near those cities were laughing at how absurd it is. But if trying to be European (which you're not) makes you feel better, go ahead. Keep bumping the list like it proves something.  ::)

Take all the uneducated, welfare leeching trash out of the US cities and they probably move up the list.


It is amusing how bitter you are at America, though. Blame the country, not the fact that you majored in a shit field like German lit (or w/e it was) for the fact that you have nothing to show at 31 years of age.

deicide got honors in english
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Fury on May 30, 2009, 10:51:19 AM
deicide got honors in english

That's right. I think he's studying German Lit or w/e for his MA.  ::)
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Stormspirit on May 30, 2009, 10:59:14 AM
That's right. I think he's studying German Lit or w/e for his MA.  ::)
I don't understand that if true, I think getting a degree to become an engineer or get in the bio tech industry would make more sense.  It seems a lot of people don't consider how their degree which costs so much and takes so much time is going to make them money, most college graduates make maybe 40k per year and are in debt up to their eyeballs from getting their degree
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Deicide on May 30, 2009, 11:02:19 AM
Yes, bump for our favorite wannabe European. The funny thing about that list is all of the Getbiggers who actually live in or near those cities were laughing at how absurd it is. But if trying to be European (which you're not) makes you feel better, go ahead. Keep bumping the list like it proves something.  ::)

Take all the uneducated, welfare leeching trash out of the US cities and they probably move up the list.


It is amusing how bitter you are at America, though. Blame the country, not the fact that you majored in a shit field like German lit (or w/e it was) for the fact that you have nothing to show at 31 years of age.

That's funny. I am BOTH American and European as evidenced by this fact so I don't need to try to be something I already am. I know that is difficult to grasp for one with your myopic vision of things but do try.

(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z25/Todesfick/001.jpg)

As for your other contention, weren't you but a few days ago telling me how fortunate I am to be educated and doing a masters degree at the 'young' age of 31? Should I pull up the post? EPIC SELF-CONTRADICTORY BACK PEDDLING...EITHER MY LIFE SUCKS AND I HAVE NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT OR I AM FORTUNATE, EDUCATED AND DOING WELL, MAKE UP YOUR MIND CHILD...
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Deicide on May 30, 2009, 11:03:23 AM
That's right. I think he's studying German Lit or w/e for his MA.  ::)

No, my MA is in Lingustics.
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Deicide on May 30, 2009, 11:04:15 AM
deicide got honors in english

No, honours in German, my BA was in German and Latin.
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Deicide on May 30, 2009, 11:06:51 AM
I don't understand that if true, I think getting a degree to become an engineer or get in the bio tech industry would make more sense.  It seems a lot of people don't consider how their degree which costs so much and takes so much time is going to make them money, most college graduates make maybe 40k per year and are in debt up to their eyeballs from getting their degree

No debt, thankfully, due to my hard work. BUT I think my generation still bought into the idea that a liberal arts degree would be enough and having a broad education would be enough as well. As for why I did German, I did it only because I was better than everyone else at it. Simple Reason. Latin was fun but I wasn't quite as good at it though reasonably good.
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Fury on May 30, 2009, 11:18:46 AM
I don't understand that if true, I think getting a degree to become an engineer or get in the bio tech industry would make more sense.  It seems a lot of people don't consider how their degree which costs so much and takes so much time is going to make them money, most college graduates make maybe 40k per year and are in debt up to their eyeballs from getting their degree

True. I can't see the point in getting a MA (free or not) in a worthless field, but that's just me. I could understand it when you're retired and want to go back to school for shits and gigs because you enjoy the subject.
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Deicide on May 30, 2009, 11:22:16 AM
True. I can't see the point in getting a MA (free or not) in a worthless field, but that's just me. I could understand it when you're retired and want to go back to school for shits and gigs because you enjoy the subject.

Well, generally speaking you can't just do an MA whily nilly with no background in a field. I have no background in say, engineering, so that would not be possible, of the possibilities available to me I chose a reasonably practical field. As for worthlessness, pragmatically speakling it might be but if you value knowledge and learning, it is certainly not worthless. In any event I am planning on doing a second MA in Applied Translation which will be very practical.
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Fury on May 30, 2009, 11:35:29 AM
Well, generally speaking you can't just do an MA whily nilly with no background in a field. I have no background in say, engineering, so that would not be possible, of the possibilities available to me I chose a reasonably practical field. As for worthlessness, pragmatically speakling it might be but if you value knowledge and learning, it is certainly not worthless. In any event I am planning on doing a second MA in Applied Translation which will be very practical.

Are you going to get a PhD as well or do you intend to hold off on that?
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Deicide on May 30, 2009, 11:41:42 AM
Are you going to get a PhD as well or do you intend to hold off on that?

I am not sure. I am leaning against it; either I do a PhD in Linguistics OR I save up for a 2nd MA in Applied Translation where the market is always reasonably good and (freelance) you can work out of home, granting great flexibility. If I had the passion for linguistics I might do one but funding is key, whilst I can save up enough cash for a year or two to fund myself for an MA, that is much more difficult for a PhD.

A lot depends on how my dissertation goes, funding possibilities and what kind of job I get next. I recently applied for a full time lecturer position in an English department at a German university where I would be teaching fullfledged linguistics as opposed to EFL (which I hate); in that you are right, after a liberal arts degree there aren't many options. I could end up in Saudi Arabia for a year or two. Not sure.

so PhD 25% Yes/75% No
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Dos Equis on May 30, 2009, 12:27:39 PM
Isn't everything in the USA supposed to be the best? Not even one city on the top ten list...

Mercer's Quality of Living Survey 2009
 City Country Rating
1 Vienna Austria 108.6
2 Zurich Switzerland 108
3 Geneva Switzerland 107.9
4 Vancouver Canada 107.4
5 Auckland New Zealand 107.4
6 Düsseldorf Germany 107.2
7 Munich Germany 107
8 Frankfurt Germany 106.8
9 Bern Switzerland 106.5
10 Sydney Australia 106.3


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World%27s_Most_Livable_Cities

::)  Who cares?  I mean other than America haters.  Where are the immigration statistics? 

Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Deicide on May 30, 2009, 01:07:44 PM
::)  Who cares?  I mean other than America haters.  Where are the immigration statistics? 



You are blind if you think America has never committed any wrong doing and if you believe the US is infallible.
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Dos Equis on May 30, 2009, 01:13:03 PM
You are blind if you think America has never committed any wrong doing and if you believe the US is infallible.

lol . . . . How in the world does that relate to "livable cites"??

If you ever want to see livable cities, you should visit paradise.   :)
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Deicide on May 30, 2009, 01:28:43 PM
lol . . . . How in the world does that relate to "livable cites"??

If you ever want to see livable cities, you should visit paradise.   :)

Yes, Hawaii is the ONLY nice tropical place in the world...
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Dos Equis on May 30, 2009, 01:34:05 PM
Yes, Hawaii is the ONLY nice tropical place in the world...

Good grief.  Who said that?   ::)

It isn't just "nice."  It's stunningly beautiful.  The people are awesome too.  And even better, it's in the United States, the greatest country in the history of mankind.  But it's probably hard for a "half" American to appreciate that.   :) 
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Deicide on May 30, 2009, 01:46:34 PM
Good grief.  Who said that?   ::)

It isn't just "nice."  It's stunningly beautiful.  The people are awesome too.  And even better, it's in the United States, the greatest country in the history of mankind.  But it's probably hard for a "half" American to appreciate that.   :) 

It's amazing how robotic you are.
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Dos Equis on May 30, 2009, 01:59:26 PM
It's amazing how robotic you are.

LOL!  I was thinking the same thing about you.  Canned God-hating, America-hating rhetoric, regardless of the subject at hand.  I'm glad you moved.  Just go ahead and renounce your citizenship already.  We have enough complainers. 
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Deicide on May 30, 2009, 02:01:20 PM
LOL!  I was thinking the same thing about you.  Canned God-hating, America-hating rhetoric, regardless of the subject at hand.  I'm glad you moved.  Just go ahead and renounce your citizenship already.  We have enough complainers. 

The US is perfect according to you...
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Dos Equis on May 30, 2009, 04:25:37 PM
The US is perfect according to you...

God Bless America.   :)

(http://blog.mpl.org/nowatmpl/american-flag-2a.jpg)

Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Hereford on May 30, 2009, 04:40:32 PM
Yur goddam right Amurica is numba one.  >:(

But really, there are a lot nicer tropical places than Hawaii. HI has its skeletons too....
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Deicide on May 30, 2009, 04:47:38 PM
Yur goddam right Amurica is numba one.  >:(

But really, there are a lot nicer tropical places than Hawaii. HI has its skeletons too....

No, there aren't, America is perfect with no flaws...
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Dos Equis on May 30, 2009, 04:48:58 PM
Yur goddam right Amurica is numba one.  >:(

But really, there are a lot nicer tropical places than Hawaii. HI has its skeletons too....

Maybe, but not in the United States.   :)  I'll see if I can find any skeletons at Waimanalo beach.  Check the "Today I Saw" thread for pictures sometime within next week (assuming I figure out how to post them).   :D
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Hereford on May 30, 2009, 04:54:16 PM
Deicide.... at some point you are going to have to get a real job, man......
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Mons Venus on May 30, 2009, 04:55:21 PM
Great thread.  :-X
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Deicide on May 30, 2009, 04:56:03 PM
Deicide.... at some point you are going to have to get a real job, man......

Huh? What the hell do you mean by that? ???
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Hereford on May 30, 2009, 04:59:35 PM
lol

 ;)
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Deicide on May 30, 2009, 05:06:24 PM
lol

 ;)

I work and support myself, doesn't matter what I do.
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: 24KT on May 31, 2009, 05:42:27 AM
Regardless, American cities are noticeably absent.

And this is surprising to you how? ???
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: 24KT on May 31, 2009, 05:47:01 AM
Good grief.  Who said that?   ::)

It isn't just "nice."  It's stunningly beautiful.  The people are awesome too.  And even better, it's in the United States, the greatest country in the history of mankind.  But it's probably hard for a "half" American to appreciate that.   :) 

Actually, if you want to get real technical about it, ...it's in the middle of the South Pacific, ...and if global warming melts much more of the polar ice caps, ...it'll literally be in the middle of the Pacific, under water.  :o

ps: The US isn't the greatest country in the history of mankind, ...it's only one of them.  ::)
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Hereford on May 31, 2009, 10:53:09 AM
Actually, if you want to get real technical about it, ...it's in the middle of the South Pacific, ...and if global warming melts much more of the polar ice caps, ...it'll literally be in the middle of the Pacific, under water.  :o

ps: The US isn't the greatest country in the history of mankind, ...it's only one of them.  ::)

Yep, Aus and NZ are great too...

Dunno who else you would be referring to?  ???
Title: Re: World's Most Livable Cities: where's the USA?
Post by: Dos Equis on May 31, 2009, 11:32:25 AM
Actually, if you want to get real technical about it, ...it's in the middle of the South Pacific, ...and if global warming melts much more of the polar ice caps, ...it'll literally be in the middle of the Pacific, under water.  :o

ps: The US isn't the greatest country in the history of mankind, ...it's only one of them.  ::)

Actually, if you want to be precise, it's the 50th state and part of the United States, which was the whole point.  Global warming . . . .  ::)

P.S.  It is THE greatest country in the history of the world.  And this is the greatest state in the greatest country in the history of the world.  Put that in your pipe and smoke it.   ::)