Gee thanks Barry..anything else u want to apologize for...I'm betting Dresden.....He's a fucking embarrassement.
Gee thanks Barry..anything else u want to apologize for...I'm betting Dresden.....He's a fucking embarrassement.
Gee thanks Barry..anything else u want to apologize for...I'm betting Dresden.....He's a fucking embarrassement.
Why do you find it embarassing that a President would acknowledge what the rest of the world already knows?
If anything, I would think the embarassment would come from a President continuing to spew lies and blow smoke up all your asses; ...one who would look you straight in the face and say "We're innocent, ...and they are the evil-doers". THAT's embarassing. Personally, I think that acknowledgement is going to have alot of currency within the Arab world. Is it so wrong to have a President who can get his way throughout the world, without having to resort to war, destruction, and the creation of animosity against the US? Is that so wrong?
I don't know.....Iranians are'nt Araba's and they hate each other worse then arab/jew or persian/jew....the leader of this country can make his apologies all he wants, but don't for one minute think he's apologizing for me. I could care less. He spreads weakness where ever he goes.If there were items to be listed that we ought not to take pride in, that episode would have to be on the list. And what's wrong with marking mistakes? It's how we grow as individuals, is it not how we should grow as a nation? If we ignore mistakes isn't that silent approval of repeating them?
If there were items to be listed that we ought not to take pride in, that episode would have to be on the list. And what's wrong with marking mistakes? It's how we grow as individuals, is it not how we should grow as a nation? If we ignore mistakes isn't that silent approval of repeating them?
His equating the palis with the holocaust yesterday was just too damn much.
He really is a man with ZERO scope, porportionality, and common sense.
This isn't a counseling session or a self-help seminar. This is global politics. Our enemies as well as other nations are def. taking note of this idiots weakness on this tour.it's common knowledge, indisputable fact. How the hell is stating the known of advantage to enemies? We should be working on making our enemies, not our enemies. Bombing the shit out of countries based on lies, now I fucking guarantee your ass enemies become greater in number with that kind of crap happening.
Tell you what Hugo, when Iran admits there was a Holocaust, or Turkey admits there was an Armenian genocide- and the rest of the world goes around debasing themselves for past mistakes, I'll gladly stand up and applaud Obama needlessly recounting and apologizing for every single thing America has ever done ( which is a matter of common knowledge anyway) that has ever resulted in anyone dying in a foreign country.
What legitimate purpose is served by doing this? Besides making America look pathetic and continuing to campaign for President of the World, kissing everyones ass is going to do absolutely nothing to help the United States.
Tell you what Hugo, when Iran admits there was a Holocaust, or Turkey admits there was an Armenian genocide- and the rest of the world goes around debasing themselves for past mistakes, I'll gladly stand up and applaud Obama needlessly recounting and apologizing for every single thing America has ever done ( which is a matter of common knowledge anyway) that has ever resulted in anyone dying in a foreign country.
What legitimate purpose is served by doing this? Besides making America look pathetic and continuing to campaign for President of the World, kissing everyones ass is going to do absolutely nothing to help the United States.
this all symbolic stuff and if nothing else, Obama is showing how absurd it is for the whole planet to deny our history.
then again, I can understand why Repubs would be upset. There party loves to rewrite history before the ink is even dry.
Cheney's recent media blitz is a perfect example.
That's called cleaning up the mess Bush left behind.
10 more years of this trigger-happy, let's kill all them sand niggaz attitude and I guarantee you the USA will not last, as a country, another 100 years.
So... KEEP IT UP PATRIOTS!!!
From the applause and silence during certain parts of the speech by audience, it is clear they did not want to hear certain parts, especially about 9/11 CT theories and holocaust.
grouping those 2 together is beyond asinine.
Why????
The arabs largely believe the holocaust was faked and that we blew up our own towers.
Gee thanks Barry..anything else u want to apologize for...I'm betting Dresden.....He's a fucking embarrassement.
Why do you find it embarassing that a President would acknowledge what the rest of the world already knows?
If anything, I would think the embarassment would come from a President continuing to spew lies and blow smoke up all your asses; ...one who would look you straight in the face and say "We're innocent, ...and they are the evil-doers". THAT's embarassing. Personally, I think that acknowledgement is going to have alot of currency within the Arab world. Is it so wrong to have a President who can get his way throughout the world, without having to resort to war, destruction, and the creation of animosity against the US? Is that so wrong?
you know with this, he's probably speaking from the same common knowledge of it that the rest of us have. I doubt he obtained anything on the matter that the rest of us don't know about in order to make that statement.
His equating the palis with the holocaust yesterday was just too damn much.
He really is a man with ZERO scope, porportionality, and common sense.
This isn't a counseling session or a self-help seminar. This is global politics. Our enemies as well as other nations are def. taking note of this idiots weakness on this tour.
George W. Bush part two, only this version is totally lost as to world history and makes his countrymen and government look like a bunch of pussies.
Tell you what Hugo, when Iran admits there was a Holocaust, or Turkey admits there was an Armenian genocide- and the rest of the world goes around debasing themselves for past mistakes, I'll gladly stand up and applaud Obama needlessly recounting and apologizing for every single thing America has ever done ( which is a matter of common knowledge anyway) that has ever resulted in anyone dying in a foreign country.
What legitimate purpose is served by doing this? Besides making America look pathetic and continuing to campaign for President of the World, kissing everyones ass is going to do absolutely nothing to help the United States.
you're out of your mind...he's telling the truth...and the whole world already knew this already..including me..so whats the big deal?
everything America has done? Jesus, that would take some serious capacity. Anyway, he didn't mention anything that isn't common known fact. I'm sure the part he spoke of, he knew before becoming president. He didn't say anything we didn't already know. Hell it's probably been talked about on this board half a dozen times or so.
not true..I'm quite sure he has been debriefed about everything America has done in it's history so he'll have a working knowledge of such
If the enemy is fueld by hatred and some sense of our pride... and we open up to them and say 'yeah, we did some bad shit and it won't happen again'...
at least some % of the enemy is going to feel pacified and focus their energies on killing each other instead of coming at us. Can't be a bad thing if the muslim world loves obama - the prez is the face of a country - and if they like him, they like us, which keeps our troops some % safer.
Plus, we alreday know how the old way works.
I'm out of my mind huh.....Barry is weakness personified. He's not going to kick ass later...he'll appease later. He's opening up more bullshit. What nKorea, Iran, Russia and China can't smell weakness off of this guy. Its not about admitting to the Iran coup, its about aplogizing for it.
I guess those Somali pirates smelled weakness as well?
I guess those Somali pirates smelled weakness as well?
Barry allowed JSOC to do what they have been allowed to do since GWB and Rumsfeld came in, in 2000. Barry didn't say a word either way did he. Why? Maybe because if it went bad, no dirt on Barry. The SEALS smoked those guys, not Barry. Besides um, whats the risk there, politically?
good post.....we FINALLY have a president who tells the world and the American public the truth and tells them to deal with it...and we get guys on here who want to be lied to...incredible!!!
what a lot of guys like you don't realize is that America never negotiates or speaks from a position of weakness..we are the most powerful country in the world
America is like a pit bull in room full of 3 year olds....we can afford to be nice and apologetic..BUT WE CAN STRIKE AT ANY TIME AT ANY PLACE WHEN WE WAN T TO
The truth hurts, much like the truth behind the 53' coup. A coup which also invloved the Brits and a Dem administration. Further, it happened a long time ago...what else do we need to apologize for. Maybe he'll apologize to the Japs for WW2.
Too late. Reagan already did that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_internment
really? How many people died for those lies?BUSH LIED to the world for You
really? How many people died for those lies?
They didn't die for lies, ...they were martyrs for the crusade. ;)what the fuck ever jag.
what the fuck ever jag.
You gotta have a little sympathy for HH6. I don't think it's so much that HE wants to be lied to, as much as he wants the rest of us to be lied to. You gotta remember, a President who accomplishes goals without resorting to warfare and military invasion, is a President that makes HH6 useless & obsolete. I suspect he already knows he's useless on an intellectual level, ...but also being obsolete may be too much for him to handle. :P
Just look at the reaction around the world to Obama's speech in Egypt...it has been overwhelmingly positive.....especially in the muslim world....when have you ever seen the muslim world and arab countries to be overwhelmingly enthusiastic and positive about anything???
Again, Obama is trying a new approach.....he's reaching out....but believe me guys, he will open a can of whoop ass really fast if he does not get the cooperation he wants....remember...he said in his speech his FIRST duty is to protect the United States.
Just look at the reaction around the world to Obama's speech in Egypt...it has been overwhelmingly positive.....especially in the muslim world....when have you ever seen the muslim world and arab countries to be overwhelmingly enthusiastic and positive about anything???
Again, Obama is trying a new approach.....he's reaching out....but believe me guys, he will open a can of whoop ass really fast if he does not get the cooperation he wants....remember...he said in his speech his FIRST duty is to protect the United States.
what the fuck ever jag.
Did Bush call it a crusade or not?
Eisenhour called D-Day the great crusade too. WTF is your point???
One was a defensive war, ...the other an aggressive one, ...or can you not see that?
I did not know Hitler attacked pearl harbor.
Hitler declared war on the US didn't he?
Yes he did, but he never really had the ability to do anything to us other than sink our merchant ships and hit our allies.
One was a defensive war, ...the other an aggressive one, ...or can you not see that?
German uboats arriving in NYC wasn't all that far off mate
You poor little misguided Muslim.
So if someone is aiming a gun at me I should defend myself since he haven't shot me? ::)
In your case, ...you should sit back and let them pull the trigger.
Just make sure it's pointed at your ass though, ...just to ensure a permanent end to all your cerebral activity.
We could have dealt with that without invading Europe.
Im not saying we should not have invaded Europe, we had to. However, that is not he same as saying Germany would have taken us over.
it's obvious you have no idea how the presidency works...he gives the okay and no one can even take a shit unless the president knows about it and gives the go-ahead....good try though
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If hitler had been allowed to crush USSR and England (which would have certainly happened without US intervention), we would have had UK and French 16-year olds coming over the CAN and MEX borders with rifles by 1947 or 1948.
he would have used the resources of the vanquished, and we would have eventually lost, as the other great superpowers did.
If Hitler owned that side of the world, trade to us would have dried up via a nice nazi embargo. it would have meant a slow starve as we were blindsided by invaders. Plus with the advent of the WMD at that time.... heck, hitler would have been launching Firebomb attacks from MEX and CAN. His men probably would have had the nuke by 1946 as well...
You have to attack the bully while he's busy fighting 3 other guys, or after he whoops their asses it'll be the bully + 3 enslaved fighters coming at you... shitty odds
I'm not sure, ...it could be my imagination, ...but I swear I think I detected a slight note of hostility & incredulity in his voice. It was like he was stopping short of saying "You guys are on drugs if you think I'm not gonna kick the asses of anyone who dares to attack Americans." I got the impression he was annoyed at even having to spell out his position on terrorism. I'm gonna watch it again just to be sure, ...but I did sense some incredulity in his voice.
Yes he did, but he never really had the ability to do anything to us other than sink our merchant ships and hit our allies.
true but he would have quickly developed that capability once he was finsihed successfully conquering Europe...the Japanese were basically a proxy for him
Based on History u can make that claim...funny some of us are making the same claim about douchbag muslims. Thats ok 240, if Barry says that we should be in Afghanistan, feel free to back that war now. Barry's speech in Egypt did nothing. the Jews arent giving up any settlements, freedom isn;'t coming to repressive govs like Egypt and SA and new terrorists who hate their own gov and then decide to blame the West, will still be created. Flowery speeches without action, do NOTHING.
Ur kidding right......Barry thinks speeches fix problem. Hell, he hoodwinked the electorate and won an the Oval Office. He gave a nice speech in Germany and France. Neither are sending more combat troops to Afghanistan nor taking any gitmo prisoners. He gave a speech and Israel isnt gonna give up any settlements.....nKorea doesn't feel threatened by speeches either.
What should Barry do..admit who the problem is. Admit that the Muslim world hasn't done a damm thing for the Pals. Admit that Egypt and SA are repressive govs and they need to clean up their own messes. Ur right..Obama is a worthless piece of shit that won't accomplish anything.
Nobody really fucked with Bush did they. 911...frog stomping..quiet. Obama...pirates...rocket s...russians..china..nor th Korea...But hope and change is working so well.
Gee thanks Barry..anything else u want to apologize for...I'm betting Dresden.....He's a fucking embarrassement.if there's anything we need to apologize for it's dresden.
well Strawman...guess what. Bush is gone. Its barry's show. Bush pushed them, then backed off. He got the nuke plant deal and 6 party talks. Barry came in, nK began rocket tests, nuke tests and racheted up their BS. Its barry's show....not Bush..and he's done very little. He can put them back on the Terror list and he can seize some cash that Bush seized and then unfroze...after that its appeasment city for Barry the Lib.
Do u honestly think that any of these things are a coincidence. I'll take out the pirates..but beyond that, come on. They couldn't pin down Bush. Bush used JSOC and the CIA to do alot of things that Barry has stopped or suspended. Never mind that the Egypt speech was ridiculously shallow on policy, he pandered to his audience. He told Israel one thing and now he tells the muslims another. Did Bush really confuse anybody? Certainly not in the muslim world, where anything but strength, is weakness. If Barry was getting anywhere, I'd begrudgly admit it.
Based on History u can make that claim...funny some of us are making the same claim about douchbag muslims. Thats ok 240, if Barry says that we should be in Afghanistan, feel free to back that war now. Barry's speech in Egypt did nothing. the Jews arent giving up any settlements, freedom isn;'t coming to repressive govs like Egypt and SA and new terrorists who hate their own gov and then decide to blame the West, will still be created. Flowery speeches without action, do NOTHING.
Do u honestly think that any of these things are a coincidence. I'll take out the pirates..but beyond that, come on. They couldn't pin down Bush. Bush used JSOC and the CIA to do alot of things that Barry has stopped or suspended. Never mind that the Egypt speech was ridiculously shallow on policy, he pandered to his audience. He told Israel one thing and now he tells the muslims another. Did Bush really confuse anybody? Certainly not in the muslim world, where anything but strength, is weakness. If Barry was getting anywhere, I'd begrudgly admit it.
What should Barry do..admit who the problem is. Admit that the Muslim world hasn't done a damm thing for the Pals. Admit that Egypt and SA are repressive govs and they need to clean up their own messes. Ur right..Obama is a worthless piece of shit that won't accomplish anything.