Obama: first president to admit role in 1953 Iran coup

[240 is Back]

Of course, the Muslim world doesn't need to be told about this, they know all about it, but I'm sure this history is news to the vast majority of Americans.

So I wonder, will this be discussed by the pundits?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/04/obama-a... /

President Obama Thursday became the first president to acknowledge responsibility for the 1953 CIA-led coup that overthrew the elected prime minister of Iran, Mohammed Mossadegh.

Mr. Obama devoted a section of his speech to the Muslim world in Cairo to the "tumultuous history" and long enmity between the United States and Iran and outlined some of each country's historic grievances.

"In the middle of the Cold War, the United States played a role in the overthrow of a democratically-elected Iranian government," Mr. Obama said, alluding to the 1953 coup. Funded and egged on by the CIA, Iranian monarchists removed Mr. Mossadegh - who had nationalized a British-owned oil company. The coup reinstalled Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi, an autocratic ruler who was subsequently overthrown in a popular revolution in 1979.

Until Thursday, the most senior U.S. official to express regret for the coup was Madeleine Albright in 2000 when she was secretary of State.

[headhuntersix]

Gee thanks Barry..anything else u want to apologize for...I'm betting Dresden.....He's a fucking embarrassement.

[GigantorX]

Gee thanks Barry..anything else u want to apologize for...I'm betting Dresden.....He's a fucking embarrassement.

He just needs to stop.

[24KT]

Gee thanks Barry..anything else u want to apologize for...I'm betting Dresden.....He's a fucking embarrassement.

Why do you find it embarassing that a President would acknowledge what the rest of the world already knows?

If anything, I would think the embarassment would come from a President continuing to spew lies and blow smoke up all your asses; ...one who would look you straight in the face and say "We're innocent, ...and they are the evil-doers". THAT's embarassing. Personally, I think that acknowledgement  is going to have alot of currency within the Arab world. Is it so wrong to have a President who can get his way throughout the world, without having to resort to war, destruction, and the creation of animosity against the US? Is that so wrong?

[Hugo Chavez]

This is like admitting oranges are orange.  There's been so much on this for so long, it actually looks silly to have Obama stand up and announce oranges are orange.  wow, really...

[Hugo Chavez]

you know with this, he's probably speaking from the same common knowledge of it that the rest of us have.  I doubt he obtained anything on the matter that the rest of us don't know about in order to make that statement.

[Soul Crusher]

Gee thanks Barry..anything else u want to apologize for...I'm betting Dresden.....He's a fucking embarrassement.

His equating the palis with the holocaust yesterday was just too damn much. 

He really is a man with ZERO scope, porportionality, and common sense.

[headhuntersix]

Why do you find it embarassing that a President would acknowledge what the rest of the world already knows?

If anything, I would think the embarassment would come from a President continuing to spew lies and blow smoke up all your asses; ...one who would look you straight in the face and say "We're innocent, ...and they are the evil-doers". THAT's embarassing. Personally, I think that acknowledgement  is going to have alot of currency within the Arab world. Is it so wrong to have a President who can get his way throughout the world, without having to resort to war, destruction, and the creation of animosity against the US? Is that so wrong?

I don't know.....Iranians are'nt Araba's and they hate each other worse then arab/jew or persian/jew....the leader of this country can make his apologies all he wants, but don't for one minute think he's apologizing for me. I could care less. He spreads weakness where ever he goes.

[Hugo Chavez]

I don't know.....Iranians are'nt Araba's and they hate each other worse then arab/jew or persian/jew....the leader of this country can make his apologies all he wants, but don't for one minute think he's apologizing for me. I could care less. He spreads weakness where ever he goes.

If there were items to be listed that we ought not to take pride in, that episode would have to be on the list.  And what's wrong with marking mistakes?  It's how we grow as individuals, is it not how we should grow as a nation?  If we ignore mistakes isn't that silent approval of repeating them?

[GigantorX]

If there were items to be listed that we ought not to take pride in, that episode would have to be on the list.  And what's wrong with marking mistakes?  It's how we grow as individuals, is it not how we should grow as a nation?  If we ignore mistakes isn't that silent approval of repeating them?

This isn't a counseling session or a self-help seminar. This is global politics. Our enemies as well as other nations are def. taking note of this idiots weakness on this tour.

[IFBBwannaB]

His equating the palis with the holocaust yesterday was just too damn much. 

He really is a man with ZERO scope, porportionality, and common sense.

I never had any higher expectations from him, a petty criminal will always stay one, no matter how purple his office is.

[George Whorewell]

George W. Bush part two, only this version is totally lost as to world history and makes his countrymen and government look like a bunch of pussies.

[Hugo Chavez]

This isn't a counseling session or a self-help seminar. This is global politics. Our enemies as well as other nations are def. taking note of this idiots weakness on this tour.

it's common knowledge, indisputable fact.  How the hell is stating the known of advantage to enemies?  We should be working on making our enemies, not our enemies.  Bombing the shit out of countries based on lies, now I fucking guarantee your ass enemies become greater in number with that kind of crap happening.

[George Whorewell]

Tell you what Hugo, when Iran admits there was a Holocaust, or Turkey admits there was an Armenian genocide- and the rest of the world goes around debasing themselves for past mistakes, I'll gladly stand up and applaud Obama needlessly recounting and apologizing for every single thing America has ever done  ( which is a matter of common knowledge anyway) that has ever resulted in anyone dying in a foreign country.

What legitimate purpose is served by doing this? Besides making America look pathetic and continuing to campaign for President of the World, kissing everyones ass is going to do absolutely nothing to help the United States.

[headhuntersix]

Had the average Iranian not backed the coup or showed less apathy, it never would have worked. The leftists make it sound like a huge deal....and GX makes a great point. We're not getting in touch with our inner lib douche...we're trying to keep our thumb in the dyke of jihadist/extremist wackjobs. Do u honestly think the Iranians and nKoreans and Russians and to some extent the Chinese suddenly decided to do all the crap their doing? AQ just decided to try and take Pakistan? Luckily they're loosing. I think Mumbai didn't have its entended affect and the Paki's were able to shift enough troops to smack them down in Swat.

[Dos Equis]

Tell you what Hugo, when Iran admits there was a Holocaust, or Turkey admits there was an Armenian genocide- and the rest of the world goes around debasing themselves for past mistakes, I'll gladly stand up and applaud Obama needlessly recounting and apologizing for every single thing America has ever done  ( which is a matter of common knowledge anyway) that has ever resulted in anyone dying in a foreign country.

What legitimate purpose is served by doing this? Besides making America look pathetic and continuing to campaign for President of the World, kissing everyones ass is going to do absolutely nothing to help the United States.

Word.  This is embarrassing. 

[Soul Crusher]

Tell you what Hugo, when Iran admits there was a Holocaust, or Turkey admits there was an Armenian genocide- and the rest of the world goes around debasing themselves for past mistakes, I'll gladly stand up and applaud Obama needlessly recounting and apologizing for every single thing America has ever done  ( which is a matter of common knowledge anyway) that has ever resulted in anyone dying in a foreign country.

What legitimate purpose is served by doing this? Besides making America look pathetic and continuing to campaign for President of the World, kissing everyones ass is going to do absolutely nothing to help the United States.

Good post.

[Straw Man]

this all symbolic stuff and if nothing else, Obama is showing how absurd it is for the whole planet to deny our history.

then again, I can understand why Repubs would be upset.  There party loves to rewrite history before the ink is even dry.

Cheney's recent media blitz is a perfect example.

[Soul Crusher]

this all symbolic stuff and if nothing else, Obama is showing how absurd it is for the whole planet to deny our history.

then again, I can understand why Repubs would be upset.  There party loves to rewrite history before the ink is even dry.

Cheney's recent media blitz is a perfect example.

From the applause and silence during certain parts of the speech by audience, it is clear they did not want to hear certain parts, especially about 9/11 CT theories and holocaust. 

[Slapper]

That's called cleaning up the mess Bush left behind.

10 more years of this trigger-happy, let's kill all them sand niggaz attitude and I guarantee you the USA will not last, as a country, another 100 years.

So... KEEP IT UP PATRIOTS!!!

[IFBBwannaB]

That's called cleaning up the mess Bush left behind.

10 more years of this trigger-happy, let's kill all them sand niggaz attitude and I guarantee you the USA will not last, as a country, another 100 years.

So... KEEP IT UP PATRIOTS!!!

STFU Mustafa.

[240 is Back]

From the applause and silence during certain parts of the speech by audience, it is clear they did not want to hear certain parts, especially about 9/11 CT theories and holocaust. 

grouping those 2 together is beyond asinine. 

[Soul Crusher]

grouping those 2 together is beyond asinine. 

Why?

The arabs largely believe the holocaust was faked and that we blew up our own towers. 

[headhuntersix]

The truth hurts, much like the truth behind the 53' coup. A coup which also invloved the Brits and a Dem administration. Further, it happened a long time ago...what else do we need to apologize for. Maybe he'll apologize to the Japs for WW2.

[240 is Back]

Why?

The arabs largely believe the holocaust was faked and that we blew up our own towers. 

2 schools of thought on 911.

Let it happen, or made it happen.

Purposefully ignoring intel to spurn a war you need, as bush probably did, is way diff than wiring that shit up to blow. 

Aug 5 memo was pretty damn clear, as was the allie warnings we got that same day.  All ignored.  This goes beyond 'slacking'.