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98 and 97
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Peter McGough Ironage Agust 23, 2007
What was the best Olympia you saw? It's close between 1988 and 1993. So many competitors in great shape in both and so many storylines in both.
1993 was much better more guys in shape , more guys near their peaks , just a very high quality field of competitors
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Peter McGough Ironage Agust 23, 2007
What was the best Olympia you saw? It's close between 1988 and 1993. So many competitors in great shape in both and so many storylines in both.
1993 was much better more guys in shape , more guys near their peaks , just a very high quality field of competitors
peter mcgough has spoken, the only man's whos opinion matters ::)
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peter mcgough has spoken, the only man's whos opinion matters ::)
who said it was the only one? I'm just sharing his thoughts you have any other ones feel free or offer your own instead of attacking mine ;)
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Narciss,
Did u see the shape of Coleman, Wheeler, and Cormier in pre-judiging ? Anyone could have Won.
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Narciss,
Did u see the shape of Coleman, Wheeler, and Cormier in pre-judiging ? Anyone could have Won.
99 Ronnie was leaps & bounds better than both he really separated himself from the competition this year and nailed straight firsts Flex was off from 98 and Chris looked good but he was no threat
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2009 - Dex, Phil, Wolf, Kai, Branch, Freeman, Vic, Jay
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09 ? Cormier took 3rd at the 99 O. in hiss 99 shape he would have destoyed anyone on stage in 99
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2009 - Dex, Phil, Wolf, Kai, Branch, Freeman, Vic, Jay
Not one of them,well maybe Dexter even though I dislike him,would have placed top 5 in '99
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http://www.truveo.com/Ronnie-Coleman-1999-Mr-Olympia-Part-Two/id/1160132027
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http://www.truveo.com/Ronnie-Coleman-1999-Mr-Olympia-Part-Two/id/1160132027
que Hulkster post Bizzy's worked 99 video lmao
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que Hulkster post Bizzy's worked 99 video lmao
yeah, its totally worked.. ::)
do you know how many people out there own that vid? myself included?
saying its worked its just stupid.
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yeah, its totally worked.. ::)
do you know how many people out there own that vid? myself included?
saying its worked its just stupid.
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Saying it's worked is a fact , that's Bizzy's video and he tampered with the hue/contrast and saturation it's a proven FACT you know the one Kevin Horton busted you using time and time again ;)
I seen the entire vid and it doesn't look like that
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mine does.
so does everyone elses no doubt.
you can lie all you want ND, its not going to help you..
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mine does.
so does everyone elses no doubt.
you can lie all you want ND, its not going to help you..
Yeah sure it does ::) even the one forcedreps posted doesn't match that and that's how we knew you were using tampered screencaps we had the real deal to compare with and tnaks to Kevin Horton for exposing you and Bizzy lmao
it doesn't matter anyway Ronnie has said on multiple occasions 1998 was his best Olympia ;)
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Id go with 1993 with Dorian, Flex, Shawn, Paul, Levrone, and a very underated Labrada etc making one of the Greatest line ups on stage at the Olympia, 1999 was real good but id have 1993 First, 1998 O second, with Ronnie, Flex, Nasser, Levrone, shawn all in Great shape.
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1993 Hands down.
Agreed that Labrada is underrated at this contest. It was his best physique ever.
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peter mcgough has spoken, the only man's whos opinion matters ::)
Are you calling Peter McGough "fat"?? :o
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I'd say the 95 Mr Olympia was better than 93, 97 and 99. Dorian's best shape vs a whole lot of guys in their peak form.
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It's very close between 93 and 98. 99 really isn't in the same class as the other two.
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Not one of them,well maybe Dexter even though I dislike him,would have placed top 5 in '99
LOL ::)
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Peter McGough Ironage Agust 23, 2007
What was the best Olympia you saw? It's close between 1988 and 1993. So many competitors in great shape in both and so many storylines in both.
1993 was much better more guys in shape , more guys near their peaks , just a very high quality field of competitors
Glad McGough has cleared that one up for us, we almost thought for our selves there ;D
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thinking for ourselves? something ND has never really done, has he? he only goes by other peoples opinions.. most of which have been proven incorrect time and time again.
this is an interesting article by McGough, talking about Mr. O physique presentations that have advanced the sport.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_7_23/ai_n15346614/
and 99 Ronnie is the last on the list..for damn good reason.
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thinking for ourselves? something ND has never really done, has he? he only goes by other peoples opinions.. most of which have been proven incorrect time and time again.
this is an interesting article by McGough, talking about Mr. O physique presentations that have advanced the sport.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_7_23/ai_n15346614/
and 99 Ronnie is the last on the list..for damn good reason.
lmao where does he say he was better conditioned? oppppsssss he didn't and he was last on the list because it was sequential moron ;) and he still said 1993 is better than 1999 ;D
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Glad McGough has cleared that one up for us, we almost thought for our selves there ;D
We all know what you think , you troll it every 5 minutes under both your accounts ;)
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Glad somebody noticed I exist haha, I guess I am a troll, are you not? We are the same you and I, at least I am self-aware..........
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Glad somebody noticed I exist haha, I guess I am a troll, are you not? We are the same you and I, at least I am self-aware..........
No we're not alike I have one account ;)
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Me too, does my being cleverer than you at a younger age intimidate you? How old are you?
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ND works for a flower company. how correct can he be? 8)
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lmao where does he say he was better conditioned? oppppsssss he didn't and he was last on the list because it was sequential moron ;) and he still said 1993 is better than 1999 ;D
yup. its sequential - meaning 99 advanced the sport to a higher level than 93 did.
thanks for playing.
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he says he was better conditioned right here:
Coleman exhibited size, condition and sinew-splitting fullness he lacked a year earlier
he had more size, more fullness and better conditon than the year earlier..
helps to learn english, doesn't it flower boy?
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1993 Hands down.
Agreed that Labrada is underrated at this contest. It was his best physique ever.
And heaviest.
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yup. its sequential - meaning 99 advanced the sport to a higher level than 93 did.
thanks for playing.
Probably the most idiotic comment EVER made on getbig.com
How in the hell did 1999 advance the sport when the reality is that after 1999 bodybuilders just got worse and worse and worse and worse? From 1993 we saw GREAT competitors get even better. Post 1999 most of those GREAT competitors were retiring and were replaced with FAR inferior replacements that have only regressed the sport about 60 years.
Thanks for playing 8)
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How in the hell did 1999 advance the sport when the reality is that after 1999 bodybuilders just got worse and worse and worse and worse?
simple.
ronnie looked like this:
we are talking about individual physiques here that raised the bar. McGough acknowledges that Ronnie 99 took the sport to a new level as far as Mr. Olympia appearences go..
you misunderstood the article.
he is not saying that collectively the lineup of pros advanced the sport in 99, but rather that Ronnie's 99 olympia presentation did in terms of physique..and, must to the dismay of the nuthuggers, he advanced it to a level above that set by dorian 93..since the list is in cronological order, and of course, you cannot advance the sport by going backwards.
by definition, Peter's article shows that he felt that Ronnie 99> dorian 93.
and notice, that Ronnie 2003 didnt make the list..
the sport may have began to decline after that, but that has nothing to do with what Peter's article is about.
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Probably the most idiotic comment EVER made on getbig.com
How in the hell did 1999 advance the sport when the reality is that after 1999 bodybuilders just got worse and worse and worse and worse? From 1993 we saw GREAT competitors get even better. Post 1999 most of those GREAT competitors were retiring and were replaced with FAR inferior replacements that have only regressed the sport about 60 years.
Thanks for playing 8)
Great post !
Hulkster = owned
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simple.
ronnie looked like this:
we are talking about individual physiques here that raised the bar. McGough acknowledges that Ronnie 99 took the sport to a new level as far as Mr. Olympia appearences go..
you misunderstood the article.
he is not saying that collectively the lineup of pros advanced the sport in 99, but rather that Ronnie's 99 olympia presentation did in terms of physique..and, must to the dismay of the nuthuggers, he advanced it to a level above that set by dorian 93..since the list is in cronological order, and of course, you cannot advance the sport by going backwards.
by definition, Peter's article shows that he felt that Ronnie 99> dorian 93.
and notice, that Ronnie 2003 didnt make the list..
the sport may have began to decline after that, but that has nothing to do with what Peter's article is about.
Did he advance the sport in terms of muscular bulk? NO sorry Dorian was 257 in 1993 , did he advance the sport in density & dryness while being 257 pounds? NO Dorian did that in 1993 did he advance the sport as far as having near perfect balance & proportion while being hard as nails and dry as fuck at 257 pounds? NO Dorian did that in 1993
notice he still says 2001 Arnold Classic is better than 1999 Mr Olympia ;) and you was smaller albeit harder and drier , you'll cling to this quote from McGough that he advanced the sport but dismiss him when he said on multiple occasions he was better conditioned , Mr Pick and chooses what quotes he wants and tosses the rest , typical hypocritical Hulkster
2001 beats 1999 Mr Olympia and what does Ronnie have to say on the subject? 1998 is his best Olympia showing more specifically because everything was spot-on , which means in 1999 everything was NOT spot-on
stick 1999 up your ass
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yup. its sequential - meaning 99 advanced the sport to a higher level than 93 did.
thanks for playing.
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he says he was better conditioned right here:
Coleman exhibited size, condition and sinew-splitting fullness he lacked a year earlier
he had more size, more fullness and better conditon than the year earlier..
helps to learn english, doesn't it flower boy?
I know you're slow but please pay attention , NO it doesn't mean his conditioning was better you idiot , especially when BOTH say it wasn't , the only plus was his fullness AT THE EXPENSE of deity learn what conditioning is
in fact in the same article he states 2001 is his best and he wasn't as big or as full as he was in 1999 and it's still considered his best for that specific reason
you can't escape that 1999 is NOT his best showing and it's NOT his best showing specifically because he wasn't as hard or as dry . there is NO debate just your denial
Q ] There are those who feel you were at your best when you competed lighter, which for you was in the low 270's, and those who say you were best in the 290's. Was there a particular look you presented that you preferred over the others?
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Number one. That one was incredible to me. It (Ronnie's first Olympia win in 1998) always will be and nothing will ever take the place of that one. Everything was just spot on for that show. I had to overcome so much to win that one too.
I had guys in front of me who had beaten me for the last ten years or so. Nobody picked me to go in and win that show because I had gotten ninth the year before. I had to come with an incredible package and blow all the judges away and that's what I pretty much did.
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Did he advance the sport in terms of muscular bulk? NO sorry Dorian was 257 in 1993 , did he advance the sport in density & dryness while being 257 pounds? NO Dorian did that in 1993 did he advance the sport as far as having near perfect balance & proportion while being hard as nails and dry as fuck at 257 pounds? NO Dorian did that in 1993
notice he still says 2001 Arnold Classic is better than 1999 Mr Olympia ;) and you was smaller albeit harder and drier , you'll cling to this quote from McGough that he advanced the sport but dismiss him when he said on multiple occasions he was better conditioned , Mr Pick and chooses what quotes he wants and tosses the rest , typical hypocritical Hulkster
2001 beats 1999 Mr Olympia and what does Ronnie have to say on the subject? 1998 is his best Olympia showing more specifically because everything was spot-on , which means in 1999 everything was NOT spot-on
stick 1999 up your ass
I suggest you take your beef up with Peter McGough. its his article you can't deal with.
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Did he advance the sport in terms of muscular bulk? NO sorry Dorian was 257 in 1993 , did he advance the sport in density & dryness while being 257 pounds? NO Dorian did that in 1993 did he advance the sport as far as having near perfect balance & proportion while being hard as nails and dry as fuck at 257 pounds? NO Dorian did that in 1993
you make the mistake up breaking up all the attributes individually, which is a classic beginner mistake. probably from spending too much time arranging flowers and not enough time follwing the sport...
as a total package that combines all those, yes, he advanced the sport, just like your friend Peter McGough says:
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I suggest you take your beef up with Peter McGough. its his article you can't deal with.
There is no beef , he doesn't say Ronnie was harder and drier in 1999 or 1999 Olympia is better than 1993 or his best showing this is you once again WRONG as usual
McGough says specifically he CAN NOT choose a best Mr Olympia yet you think because he listed his pics sequentially it means he was better and it's not true
2001 kicks the shit out of 1999 ;)
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you make the mistake up breaking up all the attributes individually, which is a classic beginner mistake. probably from spending too much time arranging flowers and not enough time follwing the sport...
as a total package that combines all those, yes, he advanced the sport, just like your friend Peter McGough says:
Hulkster I don't arrange follows another pathetic attempt from you to divert you getting your ass kicked
the total package would include density & dryness something he says specifically he's lacking compared to the previous year and NEVER equaled Yates ANY year ;) and that's according to my friend Peter McGough
owned ;)
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Me too, does my being cleverer than you at a younger age intimidate you? How old are you?
Clever ? hiding under a gimmick constitutes clever? you need to aim a little higher ;)
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Hulkster I don't arrange follows another pathetic attempt from you to divert you getting your ass kicked
you don't arrange flowers?
well, at least that gives you something to aim for
Im sure if you work hard you can advance lol :P
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the total package would include density & dryness something he says specifically he's lacking compared to the previous year
ronnie has publicly stated he was in better condition in 99 than in 98.
I know you hate this and it gets your flowers in bunch but its true.
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you don't arrange flowers?
well, at least that gives you something to aim for
Im sure if you work hard you can advance lol :P
I could be a garbage man and I still know 10X what you do on this subject ;)
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ronnie has publicly stated he was in better condition in 99 than in 98.
I know you hate this and it gets your flowers in bunch but its true.
Sure he said it right after the contest and everyone says they were in the best shape of their lives , after they have time to reflect and see the pics and video they can step back and make an honest assessment and guess what he's said on multiple occasions? the same as Peter McGough
Ronnie has stated 1998 is his best Olympia as have many others deal with it
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this coming from someone who finds the 99 olympia video of Ronnie's physique so incredible that they have to claim that it is doctored..
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this coming from someone who finds the 99 olympia video of Ronnie's physique so incredible that they have to claim that it is doctored..
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1999 is NOT even his best showing , it's not even his best Olympia showing SAYS Ronnie himself
the video footage from Bizzy is worked I have the VHS copy and I'm watching it right now on my PC and compared the Truvideo footage from Bizzy and guess what? they don't match , he got his worked screencaps from his worked copy that simple
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You can NOT explain how a smaller , less full Ronnie in 2001 is considered his best showing and 1999 isn't ;)
You claim he's 10 pounds heavier , much fuller with equal or better conditioning and yet somehow NO ONE feels this is his best , lmfao I wonder why? ;)
thanks for playing though
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1999 is NOT even his best showing , it's not even his best Olympia showing SAYS Ronnie himself
the video footage from Bizzy is worked I have the VHS copy and I'm watching it right now on my PC and compared the Truvideo footage from Bizzy and guess what? they don't match , he got his worked screencaps from his worked copy that simple
here is a youtube clip from someone other than bizzy. ronnie's physique looks identical as it does in any of the bizzy, iceman or forcedreps shots:
are you trying to clain that slight colour diffrences between all these different people posting the clips means they are all fake? ::)
two people can post two clips from two different sources and the colours many not be 100% identical. doesn't mean it was doctored in any way. why can't you learn this? oh thats right, you work in a flower shop..thats why.. :-\
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here is a youtube clip from someone other than bizzy. ronnie's physique looks identical as it does in any of the bizzy, iceman or forcedreps shots:
are you trying to clain that slight colour diffrences between all these different people posting the clips means they are all fake? ::)
two people can post two clips from two different sources and the colours many not be 100% identical. doesn't mean it was doctored in any way. why can't you learn this? oh thats right, you work in a flower shop..thats why.. :-\
again I have a VHS copy and it looks NOTHING Like Bizzys and he was already busted playing with them so case closed ;)
and I could steal that video from Bizzy and post it myself , that doesn't prove ANYTHING idiot he's hosting the video doesn't mean it's his
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and I could steal that video from Bizzy and post it myself , that doesn't prove ANYTHING idiot he's hosting the video doesn't mean it's his
holy fuck
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so now some random person posts the vid showing the show looking the same as Bizzy's and you think it must be stolen from Bizzy?
jesus christ man ::)
no, actually the vid is the same because there is no conspiracy theory and the videos of the 99 olympia are not all doctored as you claim..
you are unbelievable.
the bullshit you will make up to save your hero is unreal. :-\
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holy fuck
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so now some random person posts the vid showing the show looking the same as Bizzy's and you think it must be stolen from Bizzy?
jesus christ man ::)
no, actually the vid is the same because there is no conspiracy theory and the videos of the 99 olympia are not all doctored as you claim..
you are unbelievable.
the bullshit you will make up to save your hero is unreal. :-\
ANYTHING posted from Bizzy is worthless here is Kevin Horton exposing you and him ;) and he right you're a much bigger fool than you look ha ha ha ha ha ha owned
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Kevin owning the living shit out of you once again
He's right you need an eye doctor and a surgeon to remove the foot from your mouth
ha ha ha ha you idiot stick Bizzy's 99 manipulated screencaps up your ass
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no one is buying your conspiracy theories ND..
the 99 olympia footage is, and always has been, legit..
everyone knows this.
and Kevin Thorton's opinion is not going to change that fact..
much to your flowery dismay..
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the funny thing is, you morons have been claiming the footage/screencaps from the 99 prejudging have been faked since the first day they were posted years ago by ForcedReps..
thats how much better Ronnie was than dorian.
crying fake is all you can do.
period..
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the funny thing is, you morons have been claiming the footage/screencaps from the 99 prejudging have been faked since the first day they were posted years ago by ForcedReps..
thats how much better Ronnie was than dorian.
crying fake is all you can do.
period..
I never once claimed forcedrep screencaps were fake ;) in fact we used them to show Bizzy's were ;) and so did Kevin Horton who came to his conclusion
I have the 99 Olympia and MY version doesn't match Bizzy's manipulate one ;)
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remember this classic post from ForcedReps putting all you flower arranging nuthuggers in your place hahaa:
Ok, one more time I give away 5 minutes of my life and step down to the retarded level of internet fanboy bodybuilding.
Time to *own* you skinny little bitch again
Here you go skinny little nerd
The quality of the youtube clips from muscledvd are taken from a VHS tape jackass.
How can you say stuff like ***HERE IS THE ENTIRE ROUTINE AND IN NO WAY DO THEY MATCH THE PICS HULKSTER HAS BEEN POSTING SINCE PAGE 18***
Are you blind ?
BTW caps lock is for retards, your BS will still look not more important you nerd
Sure the quality of the youtube videos are not the same like the DVD or a good DVD rip cause youtube vids are always very strong compressed but hell, even a idiot like you should be able to see that coleman still looks nearly the same like on my pics.
Here is the source that I've used to make my pics, Like I said all is legit even if a few yates hardcore nut-huggers have a hard time to believe that.
OK DVD rip.
http://rapidshare.de/files/34357800/1999_olymp.part1.rar.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/34362584/1999_olymp.part2.rar.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/34364476/1999_olymp.part3.rar.html
Password = www.fittimpo.cz
DL it, take pics with bs player like I have done and if your pics look like mine then you are retarded but most of the ppl here already know that
Here is one of the so called DVD clips from muscledvd on youtube.
If you would have opened your eyes before you have talked BS then you would have noticed the Hi-Fi at the start in the right upper corner you little retarded internet bodybuilder.
DVD's/DVD players don't do that, only retarded VHS recorders so the source of the youtube clip is crapy VHS but how could you know that ?
You must live under a stone, I bet you have never seen a DVD player or a VHS recorder in your entire life so you have a good excuse this time
IceCold you are just a retard if you think that a VHS rip is more legit than a ok DVD rip.
Yeah the nick of the guy from your youtube link is muscledvd so the clip must be from a DVD LOL!!!!!
Great work Dr.Watson
Holy fucking christ, you must be the king of the retards here LOL!!!!
BTW, why have you still not downloaded this DVD rip ?
http://rapidshare.de/files/34357800/1999_olymp.part1.rar.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/34362584/1999_olymp.part2.rar.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/34364476/1999_olymp.part3.rar.html
Password = www.fittimpo.cz
Too stupid to dl from rapidshare, LMAO!!!!!!!!!
DL it take pics and STFU you skinny assclown
That was the source for my screenshots, yeah I know GMV ( producers of the olympia tapes/DVD's ) have faked the olympia video too that all the yates fanboys like you and NarcissisticDeity etc.... have something to bitch
Sorry ND, first I thought you can use facts to defend your idol but after I have seen your line ***Countdown to the excues........5........4 .........3...... *** I can only say you are just another irritated yates fanboy that cannot accept evidences in form of legit pics/videos.
I thought your idol yates looks so much better than coleman in 1999 so why do you come up with crap like faked vids now ?
Hahahahahaha, I bet you were shocked as hell after you have seen my pics the first time.
If you guys still need more evidence how coleman has looked at the 1999 Mr.O no problem.
Next week I'll take a few HQ screencaps 720x480 (NTSC) directly from the 1999 Mr.O DVD.
If that's still not enough evidence for you and for the mentally retarded skinny internet bodybuilder IceCold to show you guys that my pics were never faked then I'll upload the DVD VOB of the 1999 MR.O that shows the Pre-Judging round to shut the mouth of all the shit talkers here.
If you guys were shocked from my pics then I can promise you will hate those HQ DVD screencaps and the VOB file
I bet even this will not change the mind of IceCold and the other hardcore yates fanboys but hey it's worth a try.
Here is a little tip from me for all the nut-huggers.
If you want show how great your idol is/was use facts and don't come up with stupid excuses about faked vids/pics etc...., this let you guys just look like retarded internet fanboys
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no one is buying your conspiracy theories ND..
the 99 olympia footage is, and always has been, legit..
everyone knows this.
and Kevin Thorton's opinion is not going to change that fact..
much to your flowery dismay..
I believe they call that denial , there is a very good reason Horton called you a ' fool ' ;)
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and so did Kevin Horton who came to his conclusion
oh yeah I remember that.
I proved his conclusion was wrong using the screenshots from Bizzy and ForcedReps..
and he 'ran away' in response..
I remember it well...
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oh yeah I remember that.
I proved his conclusion was wrong using the screenshots from Bizzy and ForcedReps..
and he 'ran away' in response..
I remember it well...
lmfao sure you did , sure you did
he owned your ass like a prison bitch and left you for dead , just like I did and continue to do , it must suck to be you kid because you're always wrong and always lying ;)
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If you want show how great your idol is/was use facts and don't come up with stupid excuses about faked vids/pics etc...., this let you guys just look like retarded internet fanboys
truer words have never been spoken..
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remember this classic post from ForcedReps putting all you flower arranging nuthuggers in your place hahaa:
ha ha ha ha he wasn't talking to me dummy I was on a sabbatical ;)
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truer words have never been spoken..
What's ironic is Bizzy's video was proven enhanced and I proved my point using FACTS from IFBB judges something you could never do and still can't ;)
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What's ironic is Bizzy's video was proven enhanced
no it wasnt.
Kevin tried to prove it, failed, then split..
stop typing bullshit.
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stop typing bullshit.
Irony alert
case closed Hulkster , even Bizzy admitted he he tampered with the first bunch then I myself busted him using the sharpening tool ;)
run along you delusional moron
99 isn't the best Olympia , it's not Ronnie's best Olympia and Kevin Horton busted you and your partner in crime with photoshopped screen caps
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no he didnt. he explained and showed quite clearly how he uploaded the vid, screencaps etc.
you just can't deal witih the fact that Ronnie 99 was really that good.
you never have been able to come to grips with it.. ::)
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check it out: even old fat ronnie (current) has about as much detail as an in contest dorian yates! hahahahahaha
no wonder you guys have to claim fake vids and pics.
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no he didnt. he explained and showed quite clearly how he uploaded the vid, screencaps etc.
you just can't deal witih the fact that Ronnie 99 was really that good.
you never have been able to come to grips with it.. ::)
lmfao again stick Ronnie 1999 up your ass NO ONE who is in the know considers it his best except internet-fan-boys
99 wouldn't beat Dorian 2001 MAYBE 1999 I laugh at 1999 , you're the only one who cares about that showing Ronnie doesn't hence why he's said many times AFTER THE FACT his best Olympia was 2003 , 1999 it was 1998 ;)
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you show your lack of knowledge about the sport when you say you laugh at 99, considering that peter mgough feels it advanced the sport that night..
but then again, you work at a flower shop.. :P
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you show your lack of knowledge about the sport when you say you laugh at 99, considering that peter mgough feels it advanced the sport that night..
but then again, you work at a flower shop.. :P
My knowledge of the sport? Ronnie has better calves than Dorian , Dorian's conditioning was never as good as Ronnies , Dorian lost in 1993 to Flex lmfao
but then again your degree is from a Canadian University which means it's worth about as much as a US high school diploma ;)
McGough says 2001 KILLS 1999 just like I did ;)
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Dorian's conditioning was never as good as Ronnies
it wasn't: at his best, Ronnie equalled or surpassed dorian in terns of conditioning.
why do you think McGough says 2001 AC ronnie was the best physique he has ever seen?
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but then again your degree is from a Canadian University which means it's worth about as much as a US high school diploma
actually, U of T is ranked in the top 20 schools on the planet.
no flower shop attendants come out of this school :P 8)
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it wasn't: at his best, Ronnie equalled or surpassed dorian in terns of conditioning.
why do you think McGough says 2001 AC ronnie was the best physique he has ever seen? ON STAGE
Obviously a typo and McGough said so and so did McGough same guy you're sucking his balls now and what did he say Dorian at 269 pounds would do to Ronnie 2001? ;)
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Obviously a typo
what do you mean "typo"
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McGough stated it plain and simple.
don't tell me your going to make up an excuse for this too? ::)
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actually, U of T is ranked in the top 20 schools on the planet.
no flower shop attendants come out of this school :P 8)
top 20 MY Ass it is
20 best Schools in the world
http://education-portal.com/articles/List_of_the_20_Best_Universities_and_Colleges_in_the_World.html
It's not even top 20 of best NON US schools
http://education-portal.com/articles/List_of_the_20_Best_Non-US_Universities_and_Colleges_in_the_World.html
shall I continue?
http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/worlds-best-colleges/2008/11/20/worlds-best-colleges-and-universities-top-200.html
maybe top 20 best Canadian schools
http://www.arwu.org/rank/2005/arwu2005_top100.htm
And even if it were you're an idiot regardless , especially on this topic ;)
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Hulkster, U of T is FAR from the top 20 universities in the world.....HAHAHA...
I'm a Canadian and the only university that is recognized on an international level is McGill University, of which I attended.
Thanks for playing.
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depends on the specific list Flowerboy:
from Wikipedia:
In the Newsweek global university ranking of 2006, Toronto ranked 18th in the world, 9th among public universities and 5th among universities outside the United States
and see this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_Ranking_of_World_Universities
it ranks just outside the top 20 in the WORLD.
pretty fucking good if you ask me...
like I said, no grads are going to tend flowers and no grads are going to think Dorian could even come CLOSE to Ronnie at his best.. :P
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I'm a Canadian and the only university that is recognized on an international level is McGill University, of which I attended.
hahahahaha
I don't think so. McGill the only one? yeah right..
notice: McGill is about 40 spots below U of T:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_Ranking_of_World_Universities
its still a great school though, and dorian is still nowhere close to Ronnie.. 8)
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check it out: even old fat ronnie (current) has about as much detail as an in contest dorian yates! hahahahahaha
no wonder you guys have to claim fake vids and pics.
Well if this post doesn't clear up the lens through which Hulkster views Ronnie and Dorian. Jesus Christ, is this guy for real?? This Dorian shot beats Ronnie at his best.
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are YOU for real?
a horrible shot of dorian with a torn arm, no detail anywhere, piss poor quads and a shitty 'good' arm beats Ronnie at his best?
::)
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are YOU for real?
a horrible shot of dorian with a torn arm, no detail anywhere, piss poor quads and a shitty 'good' arm beats Ronnie at his best?
::)
If Yates had better biceps and quads in that pic he would have been untouchable.
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If Yates had better biceps and quads in that pic he would have been untouchable.
but he didn't. and he suffers for it compared to Ronnie big time.
crappy quads and arms are major flaws, showcased perfectly in that pose..
if you could chop off his arms and legs, he would look great LOL
and this is the guy the nuthuggers are saying is better that a peak Ronnie? hahahaha ::)
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but he didn't. and he suffers for it compared to Ronnie big time.
crappy quads and arms are major flaws, showcased perfectly in that pose..
if you could chop off his arms and legs, he would look great LOL
and this is the guy the nuthuggers are saying is better that a peak Ronnie? hahahaha ::)
Dorian's quads were great -they are shaped different than Ronnie's, but to call them crappy is ridiculous. I guarantee you that Dorian's quads compared well when standing next to Ronnie on stage. While Ronnie hadn't peaked while on stage with Dorian, it's not like his quads were that much different in 97.
As for the arm comparison, Dorian has better forearms, equal triceps, and his right bicep is just as good as Ronnie's. Yes, Dorian's left arm detracts from the pose (although it looks pretty damn good considering his tear), but he more than makes up for it with is superior balance and flow over Ronnie. Coleman can't even control his stomach in this pose - check out the distention in his abs. Yates's lat to waist ratio absolutely destroys Ronnie in your comparison pic - check out the respective angles. Clear winner: Dorian Yates.
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Dorian's fdb was awesome, even post-tear :o
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1999 was flex's best year and Mr. O imo. He should have been the winner. Complete Bolonieeeeee
His back was flawless..best ever of all time.
Flex didn't have the baby chest and shoulders of 1993.
Coleman was heavier and freakier, but had tiny Calves, Gyno and a Strange looking midsection,
All should have points taken away and should not have been 1st place winner in that O contest.
Visible Gyno = No way u should ever take first place ever in any competition.
Calves= Deduct points.
midsection= Even more points.
Flex's weakness.......235lb ??? perfect weight, the same as Arnold.
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depends on the specific list Flowerboy:
from Wikipedia:
In the Newsweek global university ranking of 2006, Toronto ranked 18th in the world, 9th among public universities and 5th among universities outside the United States
and see this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_Ranking_of_World_Universities
it ranks just outside the top 20 in the WORLD.
pretty fucking good if you ask me...
like I said, no grads are going to tend flowers and no grads are going to think Dorian could even come CLOSE to Ronnie at his best.. :P
I just posted 5 links and guess what? NO WHERE to be found , Newsweek? ha who wrote that one? Alumni?
Just because I work for a flower wholesaler doesn't mean I'm not college educated in fact the owner has a law degree ;) you show your ignorance by assuming so ;) I live in Massachusetts home to some of the best Colleges and Universities on the planet ;) and who praised me for being smart? ;) notice I never you were ;) and no college grad thinks Dorian could come close to Ronnie? how about a Ronald Dean Coleman ;) owned
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1999 was flex's best year and Mr. O imo. He should have been the winner. Complete Bolonieeeeee
His back was flawless..best ever of all time.
Flex didn't have the baby chest and shoulders of 1993.
Coleman was heavier and freakier, but had tiny Calves, Gyno and a Strange looking midsection,
All should have points taken away and should not have been 1st place winner in that O contest.
Visible Gyno = No way u should ever take first place ever in any competition.
Calves= Deduct points.
midsection= Even more points.
Flex's weakness.......235lb ??? perfect weight, the same as Arnold.
flex was so full of oil that year you could deep fry french fries on his ass. smooth, puffy and oily:
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Dorian's fdb was awesome, even post-tear :o
what are you smoking? oh yeah, dorian's tallywhacker..
that left arm is mangled and deformed in that shot.
looks horrible.
no post tear dorian double bi is good thanks to that horrible appendage.. sorry.
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peter mcgough has spoken, the only man's whos opinion matters ::)
McGough is ND's father-figure thus the fixation with his quotes.
FYI McGough has Coleman no. 1 all time physique and back. :D
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top 20 MY Ass it is
20 best Schools in the world
http://education-portal.com/articles/List_of_the_20_Best_Universities_and_Colleges_in_the_World.html
It's not even top 20 of best NON US schools
http://education-portal.com/articles/List_of_the_20_Best_Non-US_Universities_and_Colleges_in_the_World.html
shall I continue?
http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/worlds-best-colleges/2008/11/20/worlds-best-colleges-and-universities-top-200.html
maybe top 20 best Canadian schools
http://www.arwu.org/rank/2005/arwu2005_top100.htm
And even if it were you're an idiot regardless , especially on this topic ;)
Why is a homo working in a flower shop concerned about higher education? :-*
I'm a Canadian and the only university that is recognized on an international level is McGill University, of which I attended.
Only the close-minded and internationally unaware would think that these days. Also poor grammar there my self-congratulatory one.
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my school's 26th, and with that i think i have the credentials to call all of you who keep arguing this dorian vs. ronnie shit complete homos.
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my school's 26th, and with that i think i have the credentials to call all of you who keep arguing this dorian vs. ronnie shit complete homos.
And yet here we find you on this thread lol
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Why is a homo working in a flower shop concerned about higher education? :-*
Only the close-minded and internationally unaware would think that these days. Also poor grammar there my self-congratulatory one.
Who said I worked at a flower shop? you're reduced to lying because you know you don't have anything to work with
and why is a homo tranny chaser a mod on the training board when he doesn't lift weights? that's the more important question
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yes yes
ND works for a flower company
he hopes to one day advance and work in a flower shop :-*
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And yet here we find you on this thread lol
Like we find you in every Dorian Yates thread as well as Arnold Schwarzenegger thread and threads about having sex with men who dress like women but they are ' gorgeous '
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yes yes
ND works for a flower company
he hopes to one day advance and work in a flower shop :-*
LMFAO You keep typing this as if it's a negative and as if people care , as usual with you it backfired it doesn't have any intended effect , another personal attack by you to try and divert the fact you're getting your ass kicked again by me
I could be homeless using the PC in the library and I still know more about competitive bodybuilding than you , that's clearly obvious you know why? I've read up extensively on it and you haven't case closed
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I'm just curious, because I happened onto the thread ...
... even if someone does work in a flower shop, what in the wild world of sports does that have to do with the validity of his/her argument? LOL.
I think this whole Dorian versus Ronnie stuff has played a BIG role in ruining this site. Both were great champions. Anyone who says either at his best would dominate, smoke, overwhelm, outclass or over-shadow the other is kidding themselves. Dorian and Ronnie at their respective bests would've been truly incredible ... and I can say that because I have SEEN both of those men at or near their best (or very close to, if 1995 counts for Dorian).
If nothing else, could everyone please cut down on the hyperbole? We have enough insane exaggeration at Getbig without talking about either Ronnie or Dorian as if either was anything less than amazing during their Olympia wins. (Yeah, yeah. You can say Dorian was flat in 1996 and had a bloated stomach in '97; you can just as easily say Ronnie was smooth in 2000 and 2001, and "too small" in 2002.)
Who cares? "Uncle Joe" obviously didn't fix any of those shows. I defy any one of you to show how he or anyone else did.
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I'm just curious, because I happened onto the thread ...
... even if someone does work in a flower shop, what in the wild world of sports does that have to do with the validity of his/her argument? LOL.
I think this whole Dorian versus Ronnie stuff has played a BIG role in ruining this site. Both were great champions. Anyone who says either at his best would dominate, smoke, overwhelm, outclass or over-shadow the other is kidding themselves. Dorian and Ronnie at their respective bests would've been truly incredible ... and I can say that because I have SEEN both of those men at or near their best (or very close to, if 1995 counts for Dorian).
If nothing else, could everyone please cut down on the hyperbole? We have enough insane exaggeration at Getbig without talking about either Ronnie or Dorian as if either was anything less than amazing during their Olympia wins. (Yeah, yeah. You can say Dorian was flat in 1996 and had a bloated stomach in '97; you can just as easily say Ronnie was smooth in 2000 and 2001, and "too small" in 2002.)
Who cares? "Uncle Joe" obviously didn't fix any of those shows. I defy any one of you to show how he or anyone else did.
Great post ! as usual and I agree with you 100%
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even if someone does work in a flower shop, what in the wild world of sports does that have to do with the validity of his/her argument? LOL.
as usual and I agree with you 100%
of course you agree your the one working in a flower shop lol
:-*
it matters because ND fails to understand logic, picks and chooses which quotes to conveniently believe, and sweeps contradictory evidence against his position under the carpet.
classic flower shop tactics lol
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of course you agree your the one working in a flower shop lol
:-*
it matters because ND fails to understand logic, picks and chooses which quotes to conveniently believe, and sweeps contradictory evidence against his position under the carpet.
classic flower shop tactics lol
I don't work at a flower shop you keep pushing that because you can't offer up anything else
you know ZERO about competitive bodybuilding , how it's judges and what to look for this is a proven fact to sum up your stupidity in one quote from you
" Dorian should have lost the 1993 Mr Olympia to Flex Wheeler " lol
case closed I own you kid and I don't need to attack you personally ;)
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Discuss
All I remember in 99 was Flex acting like a bch over placing 2nd. Other than that, I think the 92 was much more entertaining. Yates first O win...Shawn's condition, Louie, Loui's fall, Leverone's 2nd place finnish, Shawns sighover placing 4th, Vince's eye, Vince getting down on stage despite the eye, etc etc...MOmo's last show, Lee LaBrada's mass with class, posing to Led Zpallen that show ruled!!!!
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I don't work at a flower shop you keep pushing that because you can't offer up anything else
you know ZERO about competitive bodybuilding , how it's judges and what to look for this is a proven fact to sum up your stupidity in one quote from you
" Dorian should have lost the 1993 Mr Olympia to Flex Wheeler " lol
case closed I own you kid and I don't need to attack you personally ;)
Yeah....ND works at a flower shop and I am nothing but a gimmick account. Hulkster appears to be getting desperate.
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... even if someone does work in a flower shop, what in the wild world of sports does that have to do with the validity of his/her argument?
Nothing, ND is head schmoe at the flower shop with several mexicans working under him, and rumor has it moonlights as a sanitary engineer. All superb. :-\
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Did he advance the sport in terms of muscular bulk? NO sorry Dorian was 257 in 1993 , did he advance the sport in density & dryness while being 257 pounds? NO Dorian did that in 1993 did he advance the sport as far as having near perfect balance & proportion while being hard as nails and dry as fuck at 257 pounds? NO Dorian did that in 1993
notice he still says 2001 Arnold Classic is better than 1999 Mr Olympia ;) and you was smaller albeit harder and drier , you'll cling to this quote from McGough that he advanced the sport but dismiss him when he said on multiple occasions he was better conditioned , Mr Pick and chooses what quotes he wants and tosses the rest , typical hypocritical Hulkster
2001 beats 1999 Mr Olympia and what does Ronnie have to say on the subject? 1998 is his best Olympia showing more specifically because everything was spot-on , which means in 1999 everything was NOT spot-on
stick 1999 up your ass
Talk about clinging to quotes from McGough, you invented that! haha
P.S. Dorian's weight, although impressive, means nothing as it's not how heavy you are that matters. Kovacs is very heavy....does that mean he is advancing the sport?
Ronnie has smaller joints and rounder muscle bellies. Fact. More aesthetic, famously so. Shawn Ray pointed out on here that when Ronnie was competing against Dorian he didn't yet have Teh Chad conditioning yet so there's no comparison there, pure speculation.
Having said this I think for best overall line-up you'd have to go with '96 or one of those years, since Dillet, Clairmont, Matarazzo and all those awesome guys were there.