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Title: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: polychronopolous on June 10, 2009, 09:35:32 AM
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Post by: spinnis on June 10, 2009, 09:37:05 AM
once a bitch always a bitch.

she deserved it.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: polychronopolous on June 10, 2009, 09:41:42 AM
I'm interested in hearing 240 is back's take on this situation.

He usually brings good input on these sorts of things.  :)
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 10, 2009, 09:41:59 AM
I say equal rights triumphed that day.
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Post by: nodeal on June 10, 2009, 09:42:14 AM
Why did she refuse to sign the ticket?
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: polychronopolous on June 10, 2009, 09:50:30 AM
Face it, police hate older white women. Straight up racism.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: funk51 on June 10, 2009, 09:58:45 AM
it's the old woman's fault she played the age card. the cop should have just pistol whipped her i thought tasering was somewhat extreme. i think that cop had mommy issues also,probably remembered his own childhood where his family treated him like a fat piece of shit which is what he was.
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Post by: tendonitis on June 10, 2009, 10:01:16 AM
don't tase me bro!!
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: bigdumbbell on June 10, 2009, 10:11:42 AM
once a bitch always a bitch.

she deserved it.
x2
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Bix on June 10, 2009, 11:57:45 AM
Fat pussy cop couldn't handle that old lady with out tasing her?
I say he should be fired and hired at McDs where he belongs.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: funk51 on June 10, 2009, 11:59:18 AM
Fat pussy cop couldn't handle that old lady with out tasing her?
I say he should be fired and hired at McDs where he belongs.
                       agreed
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Blockhead on June 10, 2009, 12:39:04 PM
once a bitch always a bitch.

she deserved it.
Agree. Women, 9 out of 10 times usually deserve whatever physical punishment they recieve from a male. They want to be equal... but don't want to be equal.


 - Block!
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Deicide on June 10, 2009, 12:53:35 PM
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 10, 2009, 01:35:48 PM
She brought the action on herself by not following th command of the officer...it was by the book 100%
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Blockhead on June 10, 2009, 02:02:37 PM

 Exactly, the bitch got the SHAFT! The law views things differently when it comes to men & women. Women fought all this time to be able to vote, get equal pay, join the military, hold political office, become astronauts and just about everything and anything els us guys do. They want equality and to be labled as equals but at the end of the day they expect special treatment. That's horseshit.

 Either they revert and declare on Capitol Hill that they are not nor ever will be a man's equal or they should accept everything that comes along with being a man's equal even if that means gettng a foot up their ass if they cross a man the wrong way without the man suffering the brunt of the legal and social consequences.


 - Block!
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Bix on June 10, 2009, 03:57:25 PM
She brought the action on herself by not following th command of the officer...it was by the book 100%

You are SICK. That kind of force on an old grandma is totally uncalled for.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on June 10, 2009, 04:11:35 PM
You are SICK. That kind of force on an old grandma is totally uncalled for.

I gotta agree
This wasnt just some young female, it was someone's grandma lol
Sometimes you have to draw the line and realise what the fk you're doing
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: mass 04 on June 10, 2009, 04:36:52 PM
Broad got what she deserved. She seems like the type of "grandma" that bitches about the price of slacks to the counter girl at JC Penney while her grandchildren look at the ground in shame.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: dustin on June 10, 2009, 04:37:00 PM
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Solid natty. 8)
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Marty Champions on June 10, 2009, 04:39:33 PM
lets just hope her cooter stays tight for mars
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: polychronopolous on June 10, 2009, 05:01:32 PM
lets just hope her cooter stays tight for mars

He might bring a taser to the bedroom to spice things up a bit!
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Post by: the big fan on June 10, 2009, 05:01:53 PM
whats up with that girls nipples ?
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Post by: titusisback on June 10, 2009, 05:05:34 PM
the bitch refused to do what the cop asked - and had a horrible attitute. She deserved it
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: tbombz on June 10, 2009, 05:11:07 PM
Face it, police hate older white women. Straight up racism.
LMAO!!



dumb old lady. im glad she was tasered. would have loved to have been there to see it. would have been laughing so hard.  ;D
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: titusisback on June 10, 2009, 05:13:28 PM
have no sympathy for the bitch - old fools like that make a nightmare neighbor. They think they're better than everyone else
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 10, 2009, 05:21:45 PM
You are SICK. That kind of force on an old grandma is totally uncalled for.

Actually...it IS called for...thats what "by the book 100%, means"

I put it in the same category as dumb broads who want to fight a man, then get pissed when they get the shit beat out of them....
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: mass 04 on June 10, 2009, 05:28:13 PM
Actually...it IS called for...thats what "by the book 100%, means"

I put it in the same category as dumb broads who want to fight a man, then get pissed when they get the shit beat out of them....
exactly. This bitch has more than likely pulled this shit her whole life. If she followed the officers orders, the whole thing could have been avoided.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: leonp1981 on June 10, 2009, 05:30:22 PM
She's not dead, what's the problem?  Should have done as she was told.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 10, 2009, 05:32:32 PM
Being old doesn't give you a free pass to act like an idiot....


Except in Basile's case
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Bix on June 10, 2009, 05:33:24 PM
Show us the book, I highly doubt it. If so the book sure as hell should be changed!
That cop couldn't handle her in a better way? Besides at one point she told him something about giving her the ticket so she could sigh it, why didn't he then, at that point I should have thought he could have defused the situation. He let her get to him, shouldn’t be a cop!
Actually...it IS called for...thats what "by the book 100%, means"

I put it in the same category as dumb broads who want to fight a man, then get pissed when they get the shit beat out of them....
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Bix on June 10, 2009, 05:35:12 PM
Actually...it IS called for...thats what "by the book 100%, means"

I put it in the same category as dumb broads who want to fight a man, then get pissed when they get the shit beat out of them....

Shit beat out of them? Wow we can he your mind set.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Bix on June 10, 2009, 05:37:23 PM
Is this site just full of muscle head thugs? hahahahhahahaaha
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 10, 2009, 05:39:31 PM
Shit beat out of them? Wow we can he your mind set.

Once again...in English?
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: mass 04 on June 10, 2009, 05:46:48 PM
She's an idiot. She could have klled herself or another motorist.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 10, 2009, 05:53:19 PM
Show us the book, I highly doubt it. If so the book sure as hell should be changed!
That cop couldn't handle her in a better way? Besides at one point she told him something about giving her the ticket so she could sigh it, why didn't he then, at that point I should have thought he could have defused the situation. He let her get to him, shouldn’t be a cop!

You dont get to dictate the flow, especially once you've shown yourself to be non-complient...

He did defuse the situation...by using his taser

A routine speeding ticket made into an ordeal simply for the fact that she couldn't just sign the ticket and be on her way...
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: calfzilla on June 10, 2009, 05:57:26 PM
LMAO!!



dumb old lady. im glad she was tasered. would have loved to have been there to see it. would have been laughing so hard.  ;D
Agreed. 
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Army of One on June 10, 2009, 05:58:14 PM
You dont get to dictate the flow, especially once you've shown yourself to be non-complient...

He did defuse the situation...by using his taser

A routine speeding ticket made into an ordeal simply for the fact that she couldn't just sign the ticket and be on her way...

Is this how you defused the situation at your masters win when the judges had Rusty first, by getting out your tazer?
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on June 10, 2009, 05:59:59 PM
I hate geeks that let their dog shit on the pavement and run off when you want to fight them
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: mass 04 on June 10, 2009, 06:00:24 PM
Escalation of force. That is procedure That criminal justice degree is finally paying off.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 10, 2009, 06:01:33 PM
Is this how you defused the situation at your masters win when the judges had Rusty first, by getting out your tazer?

Uhh...yeah.  thats a good one
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: G o a t b o y on June 10, 2009, 06:05:31 PM
You dont get to dictate the flow, especially once you've shown yourself to be non-complient...

He did defuse the situation...by using his taser

A routine speeding ticket made into an ordeal simply for the fact that she couldn't just sign the ticket and be on her way...


You, along with most cops and former cops, are a dick.  When tazers first came out, they were supposed to be used as substitues for deadly force, reducing the situstions in which a cop might fire his gun.  Instead, they started to be used to "gain compliance" in situations where an officer's safety was never at risk.  Essentially, legalized torture if you don't jump to a cop's liking.  Prior to tazers, it wasn't okay for a cop to hit you with his billy club if you were mouthing off at him or not moving fast enough unless his safety was at risk...  what's changed?   We've created a totalitarian police state by allowing this bullshit.  You're old enough to remember a time when things were different, so you know what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 10, 2009, 06:15:26 PM

You, along with most cops and former cops, are a dick.  When tazers first came out, they were supposed to be used as substitues for deadly force, reducing the situstions in which a cop might fire his gun.  Instead, they started to be used to "gain compliance" in situations where an officer's safety was never at risk.  Essentially, legalized torture if you don't jump to a cop's liking.  Prior to tazers, it wasn't okay for a cop to hit you with his billy club if you were mouthing off at him or not moving fast enough unless his safety was at risk...  what's changed?   We've created a totalitarian police state by allowing this bullshit.  You're old enough to remember a time when things were different, so you know what I'm talking about.

I do know what you're talking about...and i've also been in the same situation.

Old lady could have put herself and the officer in a bad situation...
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Marty Champions on June 10, 2009, 06:22:35 PM
one day i want to hang with the king bob chicerilla
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Post by: calfzilla on June 10, 2009, 06:26:55 PM
I wish Chick was still a cop so I could go on a ride along with him. 
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Bix on June 10, 2009, 06:55:33 PM
I do know what you're talking about...and i've also been in the same situation.

Old lady could have put herself and the officer in a bad situation...
Ya, how?
You have shown yourself to be the muscle head thug you are.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 10, 2009, 07:05:31 PM
Ya, how?
You have shown yourself to be the muscle head thug you are.



How?  How about the fact that they are on the side of the road and she is constantly flailing about and walking out toward the open lane of traffic as cars are going by at 60 MPH?? 

All it takes is ONE person not paying attention while they're texting to sideswipe the stopped cars, or get close enough to pick off the lady/ officer or both...

You have shown yourself to be the clueless fat fuck that you are
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: WillGrant on June 10, 2009, 07:06:39 PM
Ya, how?
You have shown yourself to be the muscle head thug you are.

You are wrong ,  Chicko is right move along there is nothing to see here.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: webcake on June 10, 2009, 07:08:08 PM
Old bitch deserved it. Just because you are old doesn't mean you can get away with doing the wrong thing.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: calfzilla on June 10, 2009, 07:08:50 PM
Don't tase me bro!
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 10, 2009, 07:17:35 PM
BTW...saying "I dare you" to the cop after being told repeatedly to step back or you're going to get tased...probably wasn't the best course of action...
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: titusisback on June 10, 2009, 07:19:44 PM
Don't tase me bro!

Tase me, I'm a ho!
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: dr.chimps on June 10, 2009, 07:19:58 PM
BTW...saying "I dare you" to the cop after being told repeatedly to step back or you're going to get tased...probably wasn't the best course of action...
How about 'my taxes pay your salary?'    :D
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Tapeworm on June 10, 2009, 07:22:23 PM
She brought the action on herself by not following th command of the officer...it was by the book 100%

You're trolling, right?  There's nothing else this guy could have done?




You, along with most cops and former cops, are a dick.  When tazers first came out, they were supposed to be used as substitues for deadly force, reducing the situstions in which a cop might fire his gun.  Instead, they started to be used to "gain compliance" in situations where an officer's safety was never at risk.  Essentially, legalized torture if you don't jump to a cop's liking.  Prior to tazers, it wasn't okay for a cop to hit you with his billy club if you were mouthing off at him or not moving fast enough unless his safety was at risk...  what's changed?   We've created a totalitarian police state by allowing this bullshit.  You're old enough to remember a time when things were different, so you know what I'm talking about.

Good post.  Police seem much too quick to reach for this tool.  The cops in these tazer vids always have in common the fact that their idea of psychological manipulation consists solely of turning up the volume.  When is the last time shouting at someone made them calmer?  And none of these guys seem to know how to immobilize, incapacitate, or maneuver someone without a tazer when a confrontation gets physical.  Is Mahoney running the academy these days or what?  When cops use the tazer as something more than a strictly defensive weapon, people are going to view it as a weapon of attack or torture and be more inclined to take defensive action of their own.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 10, 2009, 07:29:11 PM
You're trolling, right?  There's nothing else this guy could have done?



Good post.  Police seem much too quick to reach for this tool.  The cops in these tazer vids always have in common the fact that their idea of psychological manipulation consists solely of turning up the volume.  When is the last time shouting at someone made them calmer?  And none of these guys seem to know how to immobilize, incapacitate, or maneuver someone without a tazer when a confrontation gets physical.  Is Mahoney running the academy these days or what?  When cops use the tazer as something more than a strictly defensive weapon, people are going to view it as a weapon of attack or torture and be more inclined to take defensive action of their own.

The threat of the taser is supposed to be enough of a deterrent, that MOST people will comply with the officers command and cease whatever action they have chosen...if you're stupid enough to not be in compliance after repeated commands telling you you will be tased....then you deserve it.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Tapeworm on June 10, 2009, 07:38:14 PM
The threat of the taser is supposed to be enough of a deterrent, that MOST people will comply with the officers command and cease whatever action they have chosen...if you're stupid enough to not be in compliance after repeated commands telling you you will be tased....then you deserve it.

You can't think of anything else that the cop in this video should have done instead?  And you believe that the woman is stupid and that she deserved it?  Is that how you want to go on record?
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: calfzilla on June 10, 2009, 07:40:49 PM
If the woman would have complied this never would have happened.  She brought it on herself 100%.  End of story. 
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: polychronopolous on June 10, 2009, 07:40:57 PM
You can't think of anything else that the cop in this video should have done instead?  And you believe that the woman is stupid and that she deserved it?  Is that how you want to go on record?

*polychronopolous patiently waiting with pen and paper in hand*
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: webcake on June 10, 2009, 07:44:21 PM
If the woman would have complied this never would have happened.  She brought it on herself 100%.  End of story. 

Exactly.

Just because you are old doesn't mean you get a free pass on rules and regulations.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 10, 2009, 07:45:33 PM
You can't think of anything else that the cop in this video should have done instead?  And you believe that the woman is stupid and that she deserved it?  Is that how you want to go on record?

Absolutely...

I'm sure there are hundreds of things the officer COULD have done...but he didn't.

I can think of a few different things the LADY could have done...like just signing the ticket and going about her business...like the hundreds of other motorists who got tickets that day...or complied with the command to STOP...or stepped back away from the road as the officer asked repeatedly...or stopped being difficult for the 3 times he asked her to before tasing her...
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: polychronopolous on June 10, 2009, 07:49:03 PM
There was a longer clip of the incident on tv but I was too lazy to look it up on youtube.

The lady was being a bitch from the very get go.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Cap on June 10, 2009, 07:50:29 PM
Actually...it IS called for...thats what "by the book 100%, means"

I put it in the same category as dumb broads who want to fight a man, then get pissed when they get the shit beat out of them....
Classic.   ;D
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Tapeworm on June 10, 2009, 07:56:52 PM
Absolutely...

I'm sure there are hundreds of things the officer COULD have done...but he didn't.

I can think of a few different things the LADY could have done...like just signing the ticket and going about her business...like the hundreds of other motorists who got tickets that day...or complied with the command to STOP...or stepped back away from the road as the officer asked repeatedly...or stopped being difficult for the 3 times he asked her to before tasing her...

If everyone was calm and rational we wouldn't need police Bob.  It's a cop's job to deal with irrational people.  The issue at hand is how they do it.

This should be a training video on how not to handle a situation of this kind.  Has there been a drop off in non-tazer training since the tazer was introduced?  I'm sure there are plenty of competant cops around, but the one's in the tazer vids seem like they don't know how to do anything but pull the trigger.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 10, 2009, 08:03:34 PM
If everyone was calm and rational we wouldn't need police Bob.  It's a cop's job to deal with irrational people.  The issue at hand is how they do it.

This should be a training video on how not to handle a situation of this kind.  Has there been a drop off in non-tazer training since the tazer was introduced?  I'm sure there are plenty of competant cops around, but the one's in the tazer vids seem like they don't know how to do anything but pull the trigger.

Obviously, you didn't watch the video....
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: OneManGang on June 10, 2009, 08:07:36 PM
An 89-year old just murdered a security guard in a museum. A 72-year old lady can also pull the trigger
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: OneManGang on June 10, 2009, 08:08:42 PM
Absolutely...

I'm sure there are hundreds of things the officer COULD have done...but he didn't.

I can think of a few different things the LADY could have done...like just signing the ticket and going about her business...like the hundreds of other motorists who got tickets that day...or complied with the command to STOP...or stepped back away from the road as the officer asked repeatedly...or stopped being difficult for the 3 times he asked her to before tasing her...

If you had been tasered, your toupee could have caught fire. That would actually have been quite a sight..
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Tapeworm on June 10, 2009, 08:27:08 PM
Obviously, you didn't watch the video....

The cop wasn't emotionally disengaged.  He didn't make an effort to find a non violent solution or explore other ways to get the woman to comply with him, he just dug his heels in and threatened force.  He never achieved any degree of control of the situation with what he had tried up to that point but it didn't occur to him to try anything else.  He didn't make an effort use a less painful method of physical persuasion.  He didn't try to incapacitate her and arrest her without the tazer.  The tazer was his first and only idea even though he was never in any danger.

You seem to think I'm defending grandma.  Not at all, take her off to jail.  What I question is the cop's conduct and what kind of training he received.  He looked lost out there.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: StickStickly on June 10, 2009, 08:30:51 PM
Im glad she was tasered. Natural selection is a beautiful thing at times.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Cap on June 10, 2009, 08:35:46 PM
The cop wasn't emotionally disengaged.  He didn't make an effort to find a non violent solution or explore other ways to get the woman to comply with him, he just dug his heels in and threatened force.  He never achieved any degree of control of the situation with what he had tried up to that point but it didn't occur to him to try anything else.  He didn't make an effort use a less painful method of physical persuasion.  He didn't try to incapacitate her and arrest her without the tazer.  The tazer was his first and only idea even though he was never in any danger.

You seem to think I'm defending grandma.  Not at all, take her off to jail.  What I question is the cop's conduct and what kind of training he received.  He looked lost out there.
The problem is that you don't have any knowledge about police training.  When someone becomes hostile you are authorized to OC spray or taser the suspect.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Tapeworm on June 10, 2009, 08:38:25 PM
The problem is that you don't have any knowledge about police training.  When someone becomes hostile you are authorized to OC spray or taser the suspect.

When they present a threat, of course.  But just to get them to comply with an order?  And as a first option?  I doubt that's the current policy.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 10, 2009, 08:38:32 PM
The cop wasn't emotionally disengaged.  He didn't make an effort to find a non violent solution or explore other ways to get the woman to comply with him, he just dug his heels in and threatened force.  He never achieved any degree of control of the situation with what he had tried up to that point but it didn't occur to him to try anything else.  He didn't make an effort use a less painful method of physical persuasion.  He didn't try to incapacitate her and arrest her without the tazer.  The tazer was his first and only idea even though he was never in any danger.

You seem to think I'm defending grandma.  Not at all, take her off to jail.  What I question is the cop's conduct and what kind of training he received.  He looked lost out there.

He did make an effort....by asking her to comply NUMEROUS times.

And even AFTER threatening force...she STILL didn't comply and was even taunting the officer.

It's not up to him to try 10 different methods to get the person to follow his command...it's up to the person to comply the FIRST time.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Cap on June 10, 2009, 08:40:26 PM
When they present a threat, of course.  But just to get them to comply with an order?  And as a first option?  I doubt that's the current policy.
Bob can back me up on this.  You ask them, tell them, and then you make them.  Simple as that. 

If a suspect acts in a threatening manner and fails to comply, you can employ these measures.  I've went a football game where a guy refused to leave and grabbed onto a fence.  The officers gave him once chance to comply and then tasered him until he did.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 10, 2009, 08:41:26 PM
When they present a threat, of course.  But just to get them to comply with an order?  And as a first option?  I doubt that's the current policy.

Yes...to get them to comply with a command given....THATS what prevents the situation from escalating...in this case...she could have went into the road and been struck by a passing vehicle...she could have had a weapon on her person...etc
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 10, 2009, 08:44:00 PM
Bob can back me up on this.  You ask them, tell them, and then you make them.  Simple as that. 

If a suspect acts in a threatening manner and fails to comply, you can employ these measures.  I've went a football game where a guy refused to leave and grabbed onto a fence.  The officers gave him once chance to comply and then tasered him until he did.

Exactly right....the idea is that the threat of using the taser will get them to comply faster and more efficiently than putting your hands on them...which can lead to MORE resistance, possibly injury to the person and/or officer...

Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Tapeworm on June 10, 2009, 08:44:51 PM
He did make an effort....by asking her to comply NUMEROUS times.

And even AFTER threatening force...she STILL didn't comply and was even taunting the officer.

It's not up to him to try 10 different methods to get the person to follow his command...it's up to the person to comply the FIRST time.

A cop should be able to arrest a little old lady without using a taser Bob.  This guy should be bussing tables at a Ho Jo's.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Cap on June 10, 2009, 08:45:04 PM
Exactly right....the idea is that the threat of using the taser will get them to comply faster and more efficiently than putting your hands on them...which can lead to MORE resistance, possibly injury to the person and/or officer...

Bingo.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 10, 2009, 08:49:38 PM
A cop should be able to arrest a little old lady without using a taser Bob.  This guy should be bussing tables at a Ho Jo's.

A little old lady shouldn't be a problem when stopped for a simple speeding ticket, and talking like a toughguy.

She was treated like anyone else, and rightfully so
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Tapeworm on June 10, 2009, 08:51:11 PM
Bingo.

Maybe bingo for your football guy but not here.  How much of a physical threat did she present?  The taser is over used.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Tapeworm on June 10, 2009, 08:52:32 PM
A little old lady shouldn't be a problem when stopped for a simple speeding ticket, and talking like a toughguy.

She was treated like anyone else, and rightfully so

Sounds like you see the taser as a tool of punishment Bob.  Are we getting to the bottom of it now?
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: bigdumbbell on June 10, 2009, 08:52:46 PM
A little old lady shouldn't be a problem when stopped for a simple speeding ticket, and talking like a toughguy.

She was treated like anyone else, and rightfully so
X2  arogant bitch just like so many thugs who dont respect authority
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 10, 2009, 09:00:42 PM
Maybe bingo for your football guy but not here.  How much of a physical threat did she present?  The taser is over used.


She didn't present ANY threat...AFTER she got tasered.

GET IT?
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: swilkins1984 on June 10, 2009, 09:14:25 PM
I look at it this way, What else could the cop do? The lady wasn't hearing him so the only other solution is physical force. The cop would have to subdue her without putting them both in danger in oncoming traffic so the taser is best. Even though the cop is without a doubt the stronger of the two a simple slip in grabbing her by traffic could have been a disaster. If he would have tackled her he'd still get sh*t for it. Sorry it had to happen to an old lady but she had it coming.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Tapeworm on June 10, 2009, 09:32:54 PM

She didn't present ANY threat...AFTER she got tasered.

GET IT?

I do not.  She wasn't a threat before.


You guys are spooky.  Taser use should be proportional to the danger someone presents, not to how obnoxious they are.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: polychronopolous on June 10, 2009, 09:39:59 PM
I look at it this way, What else could the cop do? The lady wasn't hearing him so the only other solution is physical force. The cop would have to subdue her without putting them both in danger in oncoming traffic so the taser is best. Even though the cop is without a doubt the stronger of the two a simple slip in grabbing her by traffic could have been a disaster. If he would have tackled her he'd still get sh*t for it. Sorry it had to happen to an old lady but she had it coming.

You make a great argument and I agree with alot of it, but if that man can't physically put that woman in handcuffs WITHOUT ending up in the lane of traffic he needs to find himself another damn job.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: mass 04 on June 10, 2009, 09:49:38 PM
Gotta love the talking head criticizing the guy. Tazing her was the best thing he could have done. She was either a. going to get clipped by a truck and the family would sue for not controlling her b. the cop was going to have to subdue her with physical force and she would have been hurt a lot worse. Bottom line she was a threat to other motorists and to her own safety i dont care if she was 22 or 72. On a side note, ive been tasered and while not the greatest feeling you get over it.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: polychronopolous on June 10, 2009, 10:08:51 PM
Celebrities get tasered.


Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: mass 04 on June 10, 2009, 10:13:45 PM
Celebrities get tasered.



Then onlyme gave them a cold compress and took them to lunch.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: polychronopolous on June 10, 2009, 10:20:30 PM
Then onlyme gave them a cold compress and took them to lunch.

 ;D
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: dkf360 on June 10, 2009, 10:57:14 PM
You make a great argument and I agree with alot of it, but if that man can't physically put that woman in handcuffs WITHOUT ending up in the lane of traffic he needs to find himself another damn job.
Why don't you tell us how you would have handled that exact situation if you were the cop.    ::)
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Dipadidu on June 10, 2009, 11:50:41 PM
Why don't you tell us how you would have handled that exact situation if you were the cop.    ::)

so you couldn't without a taser?

 :-X
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: dkf360 on June 11, 2009, 12:12:12 AM
so you couldn't without a taser?

 :-X
Why would I risk either one of us falling into the car lanes while scuffling?   ::)
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Tapeworm on June 11, 2009, 12:15:45 AM
Why would I risk either one of us falling into the car lanes while scuffling?   ::)

Lol.  What scuffle?  It's a little old lady!  You pick her up and plop her down where you want her. 

If only Mars were here.  He knows how to handle these matters.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: 240 is Back on June 11, 2009, 12:21:50 AM
I'm interested in hearing 240 is back's take on this situation.

I'm with the cop on this one.  yeah, he could have put his hands on her - BUT - is the procedure was tase, not deliver some arbitrary level of force, then you use the gun.

He takes her down, and maybe he cracks a rib or kills her, faces a civil suit, etc.  It's all debatable if he weighed too much, tackled her too hard, etc. 

He follows the taze and it's 100% dept procedure.  his ass is covered.

She wasn't listening to the cop and she was very rude.  if I do the same, I'm in cuffs and nobody puts me on the news crying about the victim - I'm a piece of shite that didn't listen to cops.   When an old lady does it, it should be the same.  And if she's too crazy as an excuse, then she's too crazy to drive.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: polychronopolous on June 11, 2009, 12:32:49 AM
Why don't you tell us how you would have handled that exact situation if you were the cop.    ::)

Exactly how that officer did, don't be a smartass.

My point was just the notion that she would somehow end up in the middle of the road, which is silly.

1 - She isn't gonna just decide to run into the street on her own and she didn't appear to be doing so in the video.

2. If they did get into a wrestling match and she over powers him to where they end up there, he shouldn't be a police officer in the first place because he would be a weak little pussy.

Work on your comprehension skills, "dkf360".



Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: TechnoViking on June 11, 2009, 01:57:15 AM
Actually...it IS called for...thats what "by the book 100%, means"

I put it in the same category as dumb broads who want to fight a man, then get pissed when they get the shit beat out of them....

I wonder what would happen if cops showed up on a domestic call and a guy tazered his wife because his wife was beating on him? I would love to see that video...Something tells me that guy would get brought in though
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: TechnoViking on June 11, 2009, 03:00:26 AM
So the police can use force to get you to put your signature on a piece of paper? I'll calling shananagan's.. Why on earth did this cop need her signature so badly...Just give her the ticket...Silly...Her lawyer is going to have a field day with this...

What if she said " I don't sign anything without my lawyer looking at it first"?
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Nizar on June 11, 2009, 03:10:45 AM
Must have been an electrifying experience

I'm shocked
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Laura Lee on June 11, 2009, 03:16:56 AM
I agree she was out of control there not listening to the cop (although they don't show the whole incident so we don't know what happened prior to cause her to be so angry, like why was she even out of the car? the police don't have you exit your car for a speeding ticket).  Regardless, he shoved her, he had no control over the situation.  If a ticket must be signed and she's out of the car, take her keys and tell her she can contest the ticket in court, the signature is not an admission of guilt just acknowledgment of receipt for the officer.  No need for an officer to be physical to an elderly person regardless of their sex and tazering them is what I would consider attempted murder.  He doesn't know if she has any conditions regarding her heart or has a pace maker.  He could have easily put her in cardiac arrest.  It wasn't like she was coming at him with a weapon or even trying to put her hands on him.  She was just trying to get around him (he kept blocking her) bitching and not willing to sign the ticket.  He has her on tape.  If he couldn't get her to sign it, he should have just told her that she and her car with her plate are on camera and she will be issued a citation along with a fine for leaving the scene via the courts that she will not be able to contest. 

If that woman was your mother or grandmother, those of you saying she deserved it would be singing a different tune. 
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: INSOMNIA on June 11, 2009, 03:33:16 AM

You, along with most cops and former cops, are a dick.  When tazers first came out, they were supposed to be used as substitues for deadly force, reducing the situstions in which a cop might fire his gun.  Instead, they started to be used to "gain compliance" in situations where an officer's safety was never at risk.  Essentially, legalized torture if you don't jump to a cop's liking.  Prior to tazers, it wasn't okay for a cop to hit you with his billy club if you were mouthing off at him or not moving fast enough unless his safety was at risk...  what's changed?   We've created a totalitarian police state by allowing this bullshit.  You're old enough to remember a time when things were different, so you know what I'm talking about.



QFT!!! Great post.

There is no reason why that full grown police officer couldnt physically control the situation without using a weapon like that. Lazy and trigger happy!!! Next it wil be ok to taser anyone, for any reason. Total abuse of power!

Most old people are beligerent and crazy.. but harmless. A shock to their nervous system like that could likely be deadly for someone that age.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Deicide on June 11, 2009, 03:34:30 AM

QFT!!! Great post.

There is no reason why that full grown police officer couldnt physically control the situation without using a weapon like that. Lazy and trigger happy!!! Next it wil be ok to taser anyone, for any reason. Total abuse of power!

Most old people are beligerent and crazy.. but harmless. A shock to their nervous system like that could likely be deadly for someone that age.

Both the officer and grandma are members of team horrible genetics.

Team Horrible Genetics approved
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: kyomu on June 11, 2009, 04:10:33 AM
(http://j.photos.cx/Carli_Banks_censored-de1.gif)
Cute.
Turns me on
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: kyomu on June 11, 2009, 04:11:33 AM
Both the officer and grandma are members of team horrible genetics.

Team Horrible Genetics approved
hahahahhahahhaa. ;D
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: @Brandon on June 11, 2009, 05:15:59 AM
Modern cops are weaklings, incompetent weaklings.

The punisher in me, felt that she deserved it,
but the cop made a very bad choice.

 
For me and some of my strong friends, controlling a non trained man is very easy.

just by holding his wrist, I can move him around, put him down, or put on some controlled
pressure to make him paralyzed in pain.

I can even make a phone call at the same time with my other hand.


A 72y old lady should be as easy to control as a baby.
If the cop could not control a baby he would tase the baby as well?(If he knew he could get away with it)

A non incompetent cop would move the retarded old lady away from the lane,
as easy as you move an infant.

Like Laura said the taser could have killed her.


Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: peruke on June 11, 2009, 05:18:00 AM
(http://j.photos.cx/Carli_Banks_censored-de1.gif)

He would not have tased the blond.... :-X
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 11, 2009, 05:25:06 AM
So the police can use force to get you to put your signature on a piece of paper? I'll calling shananagan's.. Why on earth did this cop need her signature so badly...Just give her the ticket...Silly...Her lawyer is going to have a field day with this...

What if she said " I don't sign anything without my lawyer looking at it first"?

All signing the ticket is, is a conformation that it was given to you and that you understood what it was for and why it was given....it's really not that big of a deal....except when it's made into one.

And....he wasn't using force to make her sign the ticket...he decided to use force to get her to comply with what he was asking for...in this case, getting out of the road and becoming increasingly non-complient.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 11, 2009, 06:19:12 AM
Should have used the old choke hold or a nightstick.... 8)
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Laura Lee on June 11, 2009, 06:59:44 AM
All signing the ticket is, is a conformation that it was given to you and that you understood what it was for and why it was given....it's really not that big of a deal....except when it's made into one.

And....he wasn't using force to make her sign the ticket...he decided to use force to get her to comply with what he was asking for...in this case, getting out of the road and becoming increasingly non-complient.
So if this was your mother or grandmother (at age 72), you would still agree with the cop and say "Mom/Grandma, I'm sorry but you deserved to be tazered because you weren't compliant"?  Or how about Tash?  When she's 72 and non-compliant when issued a speeding ticket and the cop tazers her...will you be alright with that?   Hell, I bet you'd throw down if she was tazered at the young age she is right now. 

A tazer should NEVER be used on an elderly person, no matter the situation (leaving out holding a gun to someone's head, etc) because there is a good possibility that their hearts can not take it.  That cop could have easily taken that woman by the wrist and escorted her to the other side of the road stating he was going to arrest her.  He already shoved her so it's not like he was afraid to touch her.  He chose the cowards way out and tazed her.  I would be suing the police department for unnecessary force.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 11, 2009, 07:04:17 AM
So if this was your mother or grandmother (at age 72), you would still agree with the cop and say "Mom/Grandma, I'm sorry but you deserved to be tazered because you weren't compliant"?  Or how about Tash?  When she's 72 and non-compliant when issued a speeding ticket and the cop tazers her...will you be alright with that?   Hell, I bet you'd throw down if she was tazered at the young age she is right now. 

A tazer should NEVER be used on an elderly person, no matter the situation (leaving out holding a gun to someone's head, etc) because there is a good possibility that their hearts can not take it.  That cop could have easily taken that woman by the wrist and escorted her to the other side of the road stating he was going to arrest her.  He already shoved her so it's not like he was afraid to touch her.  He chose the cowards way out and tazed her.  I would be suing the police department for unnecessary force.

My mother would never act in such a way as to invite the threat of escalating force...

He did take her by the wrist....a number of times. Then she decided to start acting like she was 20 again...


She got what was coming...
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Laura Lee on June 11, 2009, 08:50:55 AM
My mother would never act in such a way as to invite the threat of escalating force...

He did take her by the wrist....a number of times. Then she decided to start acting like she was 20 again...


She got what was coming...
First off, did you watch the same video as the rest of us.  The first contact he made in that video was shoving her back.  She counters back "oh you're gonna shove a 72 year old woman?" and he responds that he will.  He also orders her to the ground, she DOES comply by dropping to her knees and then he tazers her, then while she withering in pain he tells her if she, a 72 year old which I imagine has arthritis, to put her hands behind her back or he will tazer her again. 

You said your mother would never act in a way as to "invite" the threat of escalated force.  I didn't see any "invitation" to use brutal force in that clip.  There was no threat to that officer's life where he should feel the need to subdue a 72 year old woman with a tazer.  If he really felt like she could do bodily harm to him...he needs to turn in his badge because this isn't the job for him.  Like someone else in this thread said...there was a time when police didn't carry tazers.  What if this happened with these two individuals then?  Would the cop have shot her?  Pulled out his club and beat her over the head?

My father was a police officer and my ex-husband's a police officer.  Neither could even fathom the idea of tazering a 72 year old unless there was a knife up against someones throat by the 72 year old and if they could...I would be as equally disgusted with them.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on June 11, 2009, 08:55:07 AM
First off, did you watch the same video as the rest of us.  The first contact he made in that video was shoving her back.  She counters back "oh you're gonna shove a 72 year old woman?" and he responds that he will.  He also orders her to the ground, she DOES comply by dropping to her knees and then he tazers her, then while she withering in pain he tells her if she, a 72 year old which I imagine has arthritis, to put her hands behind her back or he will tazer her again. 

You said your mother would never act in a way as to "invite" the threat of escalated force.  I didn't see any "invitation" to use brutal force in that clip.  There was no threat to that officer's life where he should feel the need to subdue a 72 year old woman with a tazer.  If he really felt like she could do bodily harm to him...he needs to turn in his badge because this isn't the job for him.  Like someone else in this thread said...there was a time when police didn't carry tazers.  What if this happened with these two individuals then?  Would the cop have shot her?  Pulled out his club and beat her over the head?

My father was a police officer and my ex-husband's a police officer.  Neither could even fathom the idea of tazering a 72 year old unless there was a knife up against someones throat by the 72 year old and if they could...I would be as equally disgusted with them.
all women should comply by dropping to their knees
Laura be honest,would you blow me
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: elite_lifter on June 11, 2009, 08:56:33 AM
My mother would never act in such a way as to invite the threat of escalating force...

He did take her by the wrist....a number of times. Then she decided to start acting like she was 20 again...


She got what was coming...
It was excessive imo, I believe she did say she would sign the ticket b4 he tased her. That cop must have been abandoned as a child.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on June 11, 2009, 08:57:18 AM
Yes???
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: polychronopolous on June 11, 2009, 08:58:14 AM
More Dashcam footage


Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Bix on June 11, 2009, 09:03:04 AM

People like you are to blame for the hideous police state we now find ourselves in.
THUG!


How?  How about the fact that they are on the side of the road and she is constantly flailing about and walking out toward the open lane of traffic as cars are going by at 60 MPH?? 

All it takes is ONE person not paying attention while they're texting to sideswipe the stopped cars, or get close enough to pick off the lady/ officer or both...

You have shown yourself to be the clueless fat fuck that you are
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on June 11, 2009, 09:04:28 AM
Bob Chick...would you have arrested a drug user during your time as a police officer??
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: kh300 on June 11, 2009, 09:10:49 AM
People like you are to blame for the hideous police state we now find ourselves in.
THUG!


cops have about 75% less rights then they did 20 years ago
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Bix on June 11, 2009, 09:26:00 AM
Bob Chick...would you have arrested a drug user during your time as a police officer??

A steroid user?
hahahhha
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 11, 2009, 11:54:35 AM
First off, did you watch the same video as the rest of us.  The first contact he made in that video was shoving her back.  She counters back "oh you're gonna shove a 72 year old woman?" and he responds that he will.  He also orders her to the ground, she DOES comply by dropping to her knees and then he tazers her, then while she withering in pain he tells her if she, a 72 year old which I imagine has arthritis, to put her hands behind her back or he will tazer her again. 

You said your mother would never act in a way as to "invite" the threat of escalated force.  I didn't see any "invitation" to use brutal force in that clip.  There was no threat to that officer's life where he should feel the need to subdue a 72 year old woman with a tazer.  If he really felt like she could do bodily harm to him...he needs to turn in his badge because this isn't the job for him.  Like someone else in this thread said...there was a time when police didn't carry tazers.  What if this happened with these two individuals then?  Would the cop have shot her?  Pulled out his club and beat her over the head?

My father was a police officer and my ex-husband's a police officer.  Neither could even fathom the idea of tazering a 72 year old unless there was a knife up against someones throat by the 72 year old and if they could...I would be as equally disgusted with them.

Yes, I seen the same video...and what you DONT see are the events that led up to the portion of the video you DO see.

You ask what would have happened if he wasn't carying a taser?   Simple...he would have given the same command, she would have responded in the same way...he would have physically taken her down...and the same people crying "foul" would be saying the same thing..."He didn't have to get physical..." etc.  I'm sure she would be hurt and suing the police dept...as usual.

You miss the most basic point of the ordeal...had she simply signed the ticket...none of the rest takes place...as the hundereds of other motorists that day did.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: kh300 on June 11, 2009, 12:21:16 PM
they always say ''pussy cop couldnt handle it himself''... well had this guy tried to detain her physically she would have gotten hurt..

none of you know shit aside from chick.. ive detained hundreds if not thousands of people in my day.. not one of them didnt try to fight back in the process which gets them more hurt.. the tazer puts an end to all of it.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 11, 2009, 12:38:40 PM
A decent mother/grandmother, at any age, wouldn't be acting like this old bat.  He should have short armed clotheslined her into the ditch.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Hedgehog on June 11, 2009, 12:39:22 PM
She brought the action on herself by not following th command of the officer...it was by the book 100%

By the book 100%...


Let me ask you a strictly hypothetical question...

If there is a law that says that Jews 72-year old women should be shipped off to extermination camps - would that also be – by the book?


Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Hedgehog on June 11, 2009, 12:40:42 PM
The Jews brought the action on theirselves by not following th command of the Nazis...it was by the book 100%


Fixed.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 11, 2009, 12:43:53 PM
What the hell are you talking about?
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 11, 2009, 12:49:34 PM

Fixed.
Good point Hedge
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 11, 2009, 12:54:15 PM
Did anybody bother to watch the video that polyunsaturated posted?  The old bag kept saying "I'm gettin back in my truck" and not obeying the officer.  He attempted to cuff her, but old granny-grunt wouldn't comply.  I say give him an award for bravery.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Laura Lee on June 11, 2009, 01:44:18 PM
Yes, I seen the same video...and what you DONT see are the events that led up to the portion of the video you DO see.

You ask what would have happened if he wasn't carying a taser?   Simple...he would have given the same command, she would have responded in the same way...he would have physically taken her down...and the same people crying "foul" would be saying the same thing..."He didn't have to get physical..." etc.  I'm sure she would be hurt and suing the police dept...as usual.

You miss the most basic point of the ordeal...had she simply signed the ticket...none of the rest takes place...as the hundereds of other motorists that day did.
Seriously, there are some things that you just don't do.  Yes, she was mouthy to him and deserved to be detained and/or arrested but not tazed.  The whole video is available if you google, although I found they all have a few seconds here and there "removed".  But if you watch "what has been provided BY THE POLICE" you can clearly see he shoves her back because she's just a little too close to him. He states in his police report that he did so to get her out of the line of traffic, but you can see in the video that isn't true.  He doesn't say "look move to the other side of the vehicle so we don't get hit by oncoming traffic. He then starts calling her behavior in over his walkie and she's trying to get dispatch to hear her say "help 72 year old needs assistance".  That's when he decides to put the cuffs on her and she pulls away, he threatens to taze her, she says "go ahead I dare ya" and then says "I'm getting back in my car" be blocks her and says no you're not and she says/tries again.  He pushes her back again and takes out the tazed.  She stops dead in her tracks and he tazed her.  Then while face down on the ground he tells her repeatedly to put her hands behind her back or he'll taze her again, of which she keeps saying she's trying.  SHE'S 72 freakin years old, probably with arthritis and he wants her to be able to lie face down and hold her hands behind her back...after being shocked???   Did this officer really feel like this woman could over power him to the point he couldn't gain control without stunning her? 

I'd like to know what all the missing minutes were.

I think had he told her to get out of the car and move to the other side of the vehicle for their protection so they wouldn't get hit by oncoming traffic, she probably would have gone.  I don't condone the fact that she swore at him and gave him shit, but this guy was clearly not in the right to taze this 72 year old woman.  That was extreme force and most police don't even use it when chasing a burglary, drug or murder suspect.  They run them down, tackle them and if they don't comply at that point they tazer (unless of course the suspect has a knife or some other kind of weapon other than a gun).
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 11, 2009, 02:01:52 PM
She should have been shoved back...for her own good as well as the officers.

Would you have this same opinion if she was 62?  How about 42? 32?  Where does age become a factor and not the actions of the individual?

As a former officer, I can tell you first hand...I would never have allowed this to have gone as far as it did...but THAT officer did. That was HIS choice, and it was justified.

BTW...at all times SHE had the CHOICE to do as she was told. He wasn't asking her to do anything out of the ordinary. Even after being threatened with being tased...she STILL is stupid enough to say "I dare you"....
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Bix on June 11, 2009, 02:02:49 PM

Fixed.

You nailed it Hedgey  :D
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Bix on June 11, 2009, 02:07:21 PM

You miss the whole point Chicky Cop.......... excessive and uncalled for force! For all that dumb cop knew she could have had a heart condition that the taser shock could have set off.
You're a hopeless ex cop.
These tasers need to be outlawed, too easy for the dumb cops to use.

She should have been shoved back...for her own good as well as the officers.

Would you have this same opinion if she was 62?  How about 42? 32?  Where does age become a factor and not the actions of the individual?

As a former officer, I can tell you first hand...I would never have allowed this to have gone as far as it did...but THAT officer did. That was HIS choice, and it was justified.

BTW...at all times SHE had the CHOICE to do as she was told. He wasn't asking her to do anything out of the ordinary. Even after being threatened with being tased...she STILL is stupid enough to say "I dare you"....
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: dr.chimps on June 11, 2009, 02:08:34 PM
You miss the most basic point of the ordeal...had she simply signed the ticket...none of the rest takes place...as the hundereds of other motorists that day did.
While this woman should have just shut up and signed the ticket, the fact that this guy had to use a taser on her is a massive FAIL on his part. No doubt, this guy is hearing it from everybody back at the stationhouse. Getting attention for being stupid is hated by cops. If this guy is ever thrown a retirement party (unlikely), this incident will be all over the proceedings, unless he single-handedly saves America from the next terrorism attack (also unlikey).  
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Bix on June 11, 2009, 02:09:16 PM
Yes the shoving is OK to save Gramdma from the road but come on the taser  ::)

She should have been shoved back...for her own good as well as the officers.

Would you have this same opinion if she was 62?  How about 42? 32?  Where does age become a factor and not the actions of the individual?

As a former officer, I can tell you first hand...I would never have allowed this to have gone as far as it did...but THAT officer did. That was HIS choice, and it was justified.

BTW...at all times SHE had the CHOICE to do as she was told. He wasn't asking her to do anything out of the ordinary. Even after being threatened with being tased...she STILL is stupid enough to say "I dare you"....
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Bix on June 11, 2009, 02:15:07 PM
More dumb cops.....






Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Bix on June 11, 2009, 02:20:08 PM
Check out the end of this video for taser death totals........
Of course Chicky Baby would say they were all done by the BOOK  :D.

Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Bix on June 11, 2009, 02:27:54 PM
DO NOT TALK WITH THE COPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 11, 2009, 02:30:44 PM
Check out the end of this video for taser death totals........
Of course Chicky Baby would say they were all done by the BOOK  :D.




Good example you cite....a 64 year old burgler, possibly attacking a innocent lady, resisting arrest...

Once again...his wn actions leading the way to the rest.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: mass 04 on June 11, 2009, 02:30:45 PM
funny of the million traffic stops that are done a year, you pick 10 off of youtube channel to prove your point.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: elite_lifter on June 11, 2009, 02:37:06 PM
all women should comply by dropping to their knees
Laura be honest,would you blow me
Have some respect you balding fool, and get your retarded friend some help, downs syndrome is a serious condition.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Bix on June 11, 2009, 02:37:42 PM

I personally follow this advise, why do any thing other than this? Anything else could get you tasered like Grandma.

Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Bix on June 11, 2009, 02:39:18 PM
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Bix on June 11, 2009, 02:40:43 PM

Again you miss the point, TASER DEATH!  ::)


Good example you cite....a 64 year old burgler, possibly attacking a innocent lady, resisting arrest...

Once again...his wn actions leading the way to the rest.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 11, 2009, 03:23:42 PM
Again you miss the point, TASER DEATH!  ::)


Good...just saved some other innocent people from being stolen from, or some woman raped.

Only someone like YOU would stick up for the guy commiting the crime.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 11, 2009, 03:41:50 PM
Good...just saved some other innocent people from being stolen from, or some woman raped.

Only someone like YOU would stick up for the guy commiting the crime.
Hold on I have a piss ant biting right now be right back.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 11, 2009, 03:45:17 PM
I've been pulled over a few times....and never tased.  I wonder if it's because I actually listened to the cop and did what he asked me to do....
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Bix on June 11, 2009, 03:59:42 PM

Hahahaha you still DON'T GET IT !
Hopeless. :D

Good...just saved some other innocent people from being stolen from, or some woman raped.

Only someone like YOU would stick up for the guy commiting the crime.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Bix on June 11, 2009, 04:01:02 PM
I've been pulled over a few times....and never tased.  I wonder if it's because I actually listened to the cop and did what he asked me to do....

Well DA  ;D
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Bix on June 11, 2009, 04:04:53 PM
MUSCLE HEADS

(http://www.flexyourrights.org/images/header.jpg)
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Bix on June 11, 2009, 04:10:38 PM
Go here to learn how to act and protect yourselves from ABUSIVE DUMB COPS!....   http://www.flexyourrights.org/index.php
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: dr.chimps on June 11, 2009, 06:57:48 PM
Sad ending in our country to a Polish traveler who was said to be a) Only Polish speaking b) Alcoholic c) Disoriented and 'out of control.' This could have been so avoided if someone had just used less than [brute] force and just *waited* However, the RCMP only investigates itself and says they are not negligent in this case. The old saying: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? really now becomes relevant. Canada: we expect better of you!    :-\

/please:NSFW!



Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Laura Lee on June 11, 2009, 07:13:20 PM
I'm sorry Bob.  I didn't realize you were a cop prior to bbing fame.  It explains everything.  I've been around cops all my life.  You all stick up for each other (and don't fricken say you don't) in the public eye, but behind closed doors with other cops you are all saying wtf, this cop's an idiot and just made "us" look bad and out of control. 
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: dkf360 on June 11, 2009, 07:43:26 PM
Exactly how that officer did, don't be a smartass.

My point was just the notion that she would somehow end up in the middle of the road, which is silly.

1 - She isn't gonna just decide to run into the street on her own and she didn't appear to be doing so in the video.

2. If they did get into a wrestling match and she over powers him to where they end up there, he shouldn't be a police officer in the first place because he would be a weak little pussy.

Work on your comprehension skills, "dkf360".


Of course she didn't run into the streets on the video, the cop prevented such action by tasing her.

Also, not everyone is a musclebear wrestling champ like you "big guy".
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: polychronopolous on June 11, 2009, 07:52:43 PM
Of course she didn't run into the streets on the video, the cop prevented such action by tasing her.

Also, not everyone is a musclebear wrestling champ like you "big guy".

haha......good one, "dkf360"

Honestly if that is the best you got, you might as well pack your bags and go on down the road, cause you damn sure don't have what it takes to last here.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: TechnoViking on June 11, 2009, 09:49:13 PM
Cops don't serve and protect...They try to bait you into saying/doing something incriminating that can help them move up in the ranks PERIOD!!!
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: jtsunami on June 11, 2009, 10:32:59 PM
She brought the action on herself by not following th command of the officer...it was by the book 100%

x2, and not only that she tried to pull the "I'm an old woman" excuse that just shows she was trying to get away with acting stupid.

jt
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: tbombz on June 11, 2009, 10:46:46 PM


Most old people are beligerent and crazy.. but harmless. A shock to their nervous system like that could likely be deadly for someone that age.
being old is no excuse for acting out of line.


blockhead makes a good point about this kind of thing...except he says it about women..not old people... but he says "if a woman wants to get all the same privileges as a man, wants to be treated like a man, wants to act like a man...then they should be fully ok with the idea of getting knocked around like a man when they deserve to be knocked around. (or something along those lines)...same applies to old people. you want the same rights as everyone else? you get treated just like everyone else.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: jtsunami on June 11, 2009, 11:10:59 PM
being old is no excuse for acting out of line.


blockhead makes a good point about this kind of thing...except he says it about women..not old people... but he says "if a woman wants to get all the same privileges as a man, wants to be treated like a man, wants to act like a man...then they should be fully ok with the idea of getting knocked around like a man when they deserve to be knocked around. (or something along those lines)...same applies to old people. you want the same rights as everyone else? you get treated just like everyone else.

agreed' good post
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: @Brandon on June 12, 2009, 01:03:25 AM
Some people they get an adrenaline dump when they
are confronted.

Their brain basically shuts down and they become raging morons.

This happens quite often.
Even in the nightclub scene, people melt when confronted.
Giving orders to someone under the influence of adrenaline rage is often pointless.

Threats does not work, their brain cannot comprehend threats unless their life is in danger.

Just as an example:
I told a man that I would throw him into the water if he did not stop trying to
hit me with his golfclub.

His brain is blocked... so he ends up in the pond screaming:
"f u!!!!!!!    I am all wet!!!  you stole my watch!!!! "

Me:"Your watch is there on the rock, I took it off you and put it there
since it looks like the watch is not water proof"

Raging man:"F U !!!  THIEEEFF!!!" Give my watch!!!!

All my words just bouncing off his head, I could just as well speak Swahili to him.



Anyway, telling a confused raging 72old lady she will be tasered is pointless, most
old people don't know anything about tasers.





Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: INSOMNIA on June 12, 2009, 01:13:47 AM
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Mars on June 12, 2009, 02:08:29 AM
haha that she has to experience getting tasered yet in her lifetime ;D
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Meso_z on June 12, 2009, 02:26:31 AM
She DESERVED it. fucking bitch.....you want a fucking car in your 70's.. ::) just sit in your house locked up.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 12, 2009, 05:27:18 AM
Cops don't serve and protect...They try to bait you into saying/doing something incriminating that can help them move up in the ranks PERIOD!!!

Believe me...generally speaking...officers do NOT want to see action. Every domestic violence call makes you nervous, you dont look forward to physical confrontation in the least.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Mars on June 12, 2009, 05:32:29 AM
Believe me...generally speaking...officers do NOT want to see action. Every domestic violence call makes you nervous, you dont look forward to physical confrontation in the least.

if i had your body i would confront every little tit i see with some action.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on June 12, 2009, 05:41:26 AM
Have some respect you balding fool, and get your retarded friend some help, downs syndrome is a serious condition.
Hahahaha u clown
You know a lot about Downs id say
Hows the job going??? Oh wait,you dont have a job  :D
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Tapeworm on June 12, 2009, 05:53:13 AM
Were you ever offered a bribe Bob?  Serious q.  I'm curious if people often try to buy their way out of trouble.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: w8m8 on June 12, 2009, 05:58:13 AM
Believe me...generally speaking...officers do NOT want to see action. Every domestic violence call makes you nervous, you don't look forward to physical confrontation in the least.

And it pumps out the adrenaline , which contributes to some asinine reactions by people who are supposed to be trained to manage emotional discharge

I'm both disappointed and sad to see that you have shown such disregard for the fact that we as humans have the capability to resolve issues like this one with that woman with much less hostility .
I expected more , but , alas this is GetBig and I reckon people need to exhibit such idiocy.

You honestly think that scumbag , who BTW outweighs this woman by at least 50 pounds had NO recourse other than tasing her ?


I don't give a flying fuck what she was "saying" , I also don't give a fuck about how much her disrespect was annoying him .... he over reacted because he could .. there's cops who put on uniforms and get pumped up from it . they expect people to cow down and when they come across people who won't , they reach for weapons .

Any self defense course will teach you a wrist lock ... the retarded excuse that she could have gotten hit by a car .. carries as much weight as ,, be careful with that bb gun you can put somebody's eye out  ::)

I imagine these retarded excuses that are being made for this asshole cop seem logical to some people , sort of like how it must make sense to beat the shit out of your kids or wife  when they don't listen.


Common Sense isn't so common
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 12, 2009, 06:02:17 AM
And it pumps out the adrenaline , which contributes to some asinine reactions by people who are supposed to be trained to manage emotional discharge

I'm both disappointed and sad to see that you have shown such disregard for the fact that we as humans have the capability to resolve issues like this one with that woman with much less hostility .
I expected more , but , alas this is GetBig and I reckon people need to exhibit such idiocy.

You honestly think that scumbag , who BTW outweighs this woman by at least 50 pounds had NO recourse other than tasing her ?


I don't give a flying fuck what she was "saying" , I also don't give a fuck about how much her disrespect was annoying him .... he over reacted because he could .. there's cops who put on uniforms and get pumped up from it . they expect people to cow down and when they come across people who won't , they reach for weapons .

Any self defense course will teach you a wrist lock ... the retarded excuse that she could have gotten hit by a car .. carries as much weight as ,, be careful with that bb gun you can out somebody's eye out  ::)

I imagine these retarded excuses that are being made for this asshole cop seem logical to some people , sort of like how it must make sense to beat the shit out of your kids or wife  when they don't listen.


Common Sense isn't so common


No...common sense isn't common...and if the old lady had any, she wouldn't have put herself in a position that tasing her was even an option.

No matter how you slice it, whether or not the officer over reacted, or could have used other means....was all due to HER actions and non complience.

Sign the ticket and be on your way...real simple....sounds like "common sense' to me
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on June 12, 2009, 06:05:28 AM
As a Bouncer about 2yrs ago some dirty bitch put out a cigarette on my face and I sure as hell slapped her
Fuck it,if they want to act like men,they can be treated like men
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: w8m8 on June 12, 2009, 06:06:30 AM

No...common sense isn't common...and if the old lady had any, she wouldn't have put herself in a position that tasing her was even an option.

No matter how you slice it, whether or not the officer over reacted, or could have used other means....was all due to HER actions and non complience.

Sign the ticket and be on your way...real simple....sounds like "common sense' to me


Boy , you have a limited mindset ....  she is expected to show MORE common sense than him ?   hmmmmmmmmmm   , that's interesting  ::)

Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Andy Griffin on June 12, 2009, 06:07:05 AM
To have not tasered her would have been age discrimination.  The kind officer was merely protecting her rights.  Ungrateful bi-otch.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 12, 2009, 06:09:23 AM

Boy , you have a limited mindset ....  she is expected to show MORE common sense than him ?   hmmmmmmmmmm   , that's interesting  ::)



No, she's expected to show ANY amount of common sense...as the other hundreds/ thousands of motorists did that same day who were pulled over for speeding and went on with their business 15 minutes later without being tasered
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Pecs on June 12, 2009, 06:09:47 AM
i still think that there are MANY other ways to "control" the old woman than to taser her. She could die.........  :-\
Maybe i am just too nice a person  ???
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: w8m8 on June 12, 2009, 06:13:02 AM
No, she's expected to show ANY amount of common sense...as the other hundreds/ thousands of motorists did that same day who were pulled over for speeding and went on with their business 15 minutes later without being tasered

So then , using that logic , ARE  there going to be intelligence tests included in driving courses now ?

don't be ignorant , COPS are expected to be sane and rational , they also have the capability of learning to control situations in ways WITHOUT weapons

Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: DK II on June 12, 2009, 06:15:19 AM


Deserves her right, stupid bitch.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Tapeworm on June 12, 2009, 06:16:37 AM
What's the going rate to bribe your way out of a speeding ticket these days?
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 12, 2009, 06:18:15 AM
So then , using that logic , ARE  there going to be intelligence tests included in driving courses now ?

don't be ignorant , COPS are expected to be sane and rational , they also have the capability of learning to control situations in ways WITHOUT weapons



He was sane and rational...she was not...which is why she eventually got TASED

He attempted to control the situation without weapons, he was unsuccessful.

There should never have been a situation to begin with...GET IT?
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 12, 2009, 06:19:06 AM
What's the going rate to bribe your way out of a speeding ticket these days?

Well...if it exceeds the cost of the ticket...you didn't do too well
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: jaejonna on June 12, 2009, 06:19:57 AM
if your a cop and you cant control an unruly 72 year old granny then hand in your badge, your  officially useless
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Tapeworm on June 12, 2009, 06:21:08 AM
Well...if it exceeds the cost of the ticket...you didn't do too well

Don't people bribe because of the insurance increase?
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: DK II on June 12, 2009, 06:21:40 AM
if your a cop and you cant control an unruly 72 year old granny then hand in your badge, your  officially useless

He should have given her a good beating or shoot her in the leg.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: w8m8 on June 12, 2009, 06:23:13 AM
He was sane and rational...she was not...which is why she eventually got TASED

He attempted to control the situation without weapons, he was unsuccessful.

There should never have been a situation to begin with...GET IT?

WHOA ,, oh yeah   ......  I  GET IT   >:(

the fuckwit lost his patience ,and now .... that last post of yours just shows how much patience you have  and no he was not rational

nice job ...  that was impressive
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: dr.chimps on June 12, 2009, 06:26:39 AM
if your a cop and you cant control an unruly 72 year old granny then hand in your badge, your  officially useless
Yup, that's what the cop lads at the gym have been saying. Farkin' embarrassing for everyone involved. Guy sounds like Farva from Super Troopers.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: DK II on June 12, 2009, 06:30:09 AM
WHOA ,, oh yeah   ......  I  GET IT   >:(

the fuckwit lost his patience ,and now .... that last post of yours just shows how much patience you have  and no he was not rational

nice job ...  that was impressive

hint: there's no use arguing with Chick.

He'll evade all the issues and attack the messenger.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 12, 2009, 06:32:16 AM
WHOA ,, oh yeah   ......  I  GET IT   >:(

the fuckwit lost his patience ,and now .... that last post of yours just shows how much patience you have  and no he was not rational

nice job ...  that was impressive

No...I dont think you do.

It was HER actions that led to the rest.

If she just signs the ticket....THE DOESN'T PUT HERSELF IN A POSITION TO GET TASED
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 12, 2009, 06:33:17 AM
hint: there's no use arguing with Chick.

He'll evade all the issues and attack the messenger.

What issue has been evaded?

Who is the messenger...youtube?
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 12, 2009, 06:33:40 AM
WTF has happened to getbig?  The whole argument boils down to a. she was old and b. she was unattractive.  Therefore, since she wasn't hitable material, the cop did everybody a favor.  Besides, the old hag sounded like she was having her first orgasm in 30+ years, so everybody wins.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: io856 on June 12, 2009, 06:34:37 AM
why is Bob so concerned with this topic?

hopefully some IFBB drama can come up soon to fill that void
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: w8m8 on June 12, 2009, 06:36:35 AM
No...I dont think you do.

It was HER actions that led to the rest.

If she just signs the ticket....THE DOESN'T PUT HERSELF IN A POSITION TO GET TASED

LOL .. I don't give a rat's ass what you think I  "get"

I know I could get a 72 yr old woman to comply without a taser  

too bad that fat fuck couldn't

LMAO at your silly childish rationale
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 12, 2009, 06:38:17 AM
I know I could get a 72 yr old woman to comply without a taser  



Nobody wants to hear about your dating habits  "w8m8."
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: w8m8 on June 12, 2009, 06:39:37 AM
Nobody wants to hear about your dating habits  "w8m8."

maybe not , but I bet some would like pictures
 ;D
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 12, 2009, 06:40:15 AM
maybe not , but I bet some would like pictures
 ;D

I think there was a gilf thread on here a few days ago.... ;D
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: w8m8 on June 12, 2009, 06:41:33 AM
I think there was a gilf thread on here a few days ago.... ;D

yep

and some of them pics were pretty good  8)
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: DK II on June 12, 2009, 06:41:37 AM
What issue has been evaded?

Who is the messenger...youtube?

quod erat demonstrandum.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 12, 2009, 06:45:39 AM
LOL .. I don't give a rat's ass what you think I  "get"

I know I could get a 72 yr old woman to comply without a taser  

too bad that fat fuck couldn't

LMAO at your silly childish rationale

LMAO at your inability to see the obvious

No one cares if YOU could tackle a 72 year old down...with your "mad skills"
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: w8m8 on June 12, 2009, 06:48:20 AM
LMAO at your inability to see the obvious

No one cares if YOU could tackle a 72 year old down...

you have no clue how clearly I see thru your nonsense LOL

OH NO nobody cares ? ,  LOL ... should I cry now ?

your passion is showing  lolololerssssssssssssss


Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 12, 2009, 06:49:10 AM
I'm pretty good with a bow-staff...
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: dr.chimps on June 12, 2009, 06:51:09 AM
I'm pretty good with a bow-staff...
PPV: Robin Hood vs John Little. Venue: Log in water.   
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: DK II on June 12, 2009, 06:55:15 AM
i just got off the phone with the grandma, she said thanks for the concern getbig, but it was her own fault and she only got what she deserved, she also admitted she got a bit off because of getting done over by a guy in uniform.

You can close the thread now.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Meso_z on June 12, 2009, 07:39:06 AM
as seen from the video, she asked for it. she was the troublemakeer, the office didn't act hostile or something...

fucking bitch.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: dr.chimps on June 12, 2009, 07:43:21 AM
as seen from the video, she asked for it. she was the troublemakeer, the office didn't act hostile or something...

fucking bitch.
Doesn't matter. The fact that he had to taser a granny is gonna go in his CV. What a 'tard. Detective any grade is not in this guy's future. 
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 12, 2009, 07:44:05 AM
Doesn't matter. The fact that he had to taser a granny is gonna go in his CV. What a 'tard. Detective any grade is not in this guy's future. 

I would promote him to the top.  He's a man who get's things done.  8)
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: dr.chimps on June 12, 2009, 07:45:19 AM
I would promote him to the top.  He's a man who get's things done.  8)
LOL. The Peter Principle! My bad, bro. Getting forgetful in my dotage.  ;D
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 12, 2009, 07:47:15 AM
LOL. The Peter Principle! My bad, bro. Getting forgetful in my dotage.  ;D

He's like Jack Nicholson's character from A Few Good Men and General Patton all wrapped into one...

"You don't want me to tase these old hags, but are you gonna do it?"
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Meso_z on June 12, 2009, 08:12:23 AM
As a Bouncer about 2yrs ago some dirty bitch put out a cigarette on my face and I sure as hell slapped her
Fuck it,if they want to act like men,they can be treated like men


i agree, these whores at any age are not equal to men.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Laura Lee on June 12, 2009, 09:57:08 AM
He was sane and rational...she was not...which is why she eventually got TASED

He attempted to control the situation without weapons, he was unsuccessful.

There should never have been a situation to begin with...GET IT?
Actually Chick, he was not sane and rational.  He acted like a kid having a temper tantrum.  You should recognize that now that you have a child.  He started screaming at her as soon as they were at the end of the vehicle and never stopped, not to mention threw his ticket pad down on the ground like a spoiled brat.  Yes, she was mouthing off but he never once kept his calm once she was out of the vehicle.  He screamed, shoved and tazered.  He never spoke nicely to her (not that she did to him, but HE is the one who is supposed to keep calm, cool and collective).  And I don't blame him one bit for being angry, not at all, I would too, but again, it is HIS job to keep things together.  Screaming at a 72 year old person, shoving them back and tazering them is NOT keeping things together.  Things may have been different if he explained to her that it was important for them to move to the passsenger side of the vehicle so they wouldn't get hurt.  He could have nicely put his arm around her and said "I know you're upset but lets move over to this side so we don't get hurt and I can explain to you what this signature means...." which is what he's SUPPOSED TO DO...keep everything/everybody calm & safe.  Instead he screams back at her like a little kid, shoves her like a bully and tazers her like an asshole.  The tazer is supposed to be used instead of drawing your gun when the officer feels threatened.  Not to contain an elderly person who wants to get in her car.  Like w8m8 said, all officers are trained to know how to use the wrist twist and subdue motion, he did not use it.  He did grab her wrist once...if a grandmother can pull away from him like she did, so easily, then he obviously didn't pay attention at the academy.



w8m8, you are correct regarding the uniform giving many a sense of supreme power.  I've seen it first hand several times over.  I bumped into (well got pulled over by) a kid I went to school/graduated with.  He was a class clown but in the geeky kind of way.  The "cool" kids didn't want to have anything to do with him, teased him and whatnot.  And the popular girls didn't give him the time of day.  I ws also one of the "geeky-less popular" kids in school and was friends with him.  Not close friends but we did talk in school a lot.  Anyway, several years after graduating I was pulled over for going 30 in a 25.  Steve walked over to my car like Mr. Macho Man and said "license & registration please".  I knew immediately that it was him and was like "omg, Steve, how are you? I didn't know you became a cop" as I was getting my license & reg out.  He then proceeded with "do you know you were going 30 in a 25 mile zone?"  I said that I hadn't realized.  Didn't argue because I didn't really know, just thought I was keeping up with the rest of the cars.  He walked away to his car and called my plate in, came back and said "I'm giving you a warning.  Please maintain the correct speed that's posted.  Thank you." ...and walked away.  I was like ???   I also noticed it with my ex-husband.  He walked around like his shit didn't stink when in uniform, chewed on a tooth pick or gum with such arrogance.  Even my dad acted differently when on the job.  I remember him coming over to my car, squatting down to talk to me (I was in the driver's seat and my girlfriend was in the passenger seat).  A car drove by, wasn't going fast or anything and he stopped talking and whipped his head around to the direction of the car and whispered the plate number, then turned back towards us and continued talking.  It was a weird thing and I am sure he was trying to show off in front of my girlfriend.  I grew up knowing all his friends in the department and watched them do the same kind of stupid shit.  I don't even think they know they are doing it.  They just put on the uniform and morph, lol.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Deicide on June 12, 2009, 09:58:41 AM
Actually Chick, he was not sane and rational.  He acted like a kid having a temper tantrum.  You should recognize that now that you have a child.  He started screaming at her as soon as they were at the end of the vehicle and never stopped, not to mention threw his ticket pad down on the ground like a spoiled brat.  Yes, she was mouthing off but he never once kept his calm once she was out of the vehicle.  He screamed, shoved and tazered.  He never spoke nicely to her (not that she did to him, but HE is the one who is supposed to keep calm, cool and collective).  And I don't blame him one bit for being angry, not at all, I would too, but again, it is HIS job to keep things together.  Screaming at a 72 year old person, shoving them back and tazering them is NOT keeping things together.  Things may have been different if he explained to her that it was important for them to move to the passsenger side of the vehicle so they wouldn't get hurt.  He could have nicely put his arm around her and said "I know you're upset but lets move over to this side so we don't get hurt and I can explain to you what this signature means...." which is what he's SUPPOSED TO DO...keep everything/everybody calm & safe.  Instead he screams back at her like a little kid, shoves her like a bully and tazers her like an asshole.  The tazer is supposed to be used instead of drawing your gun when the officer feels threatened.  Not to contain an elderly person who wants to get in her car.  Like w8m8 said, all officers are trained to know how to use the wrist twist and subdue motion, he did not use it.  He did grab her wrist once...if a grandmother can pull away from him like she did, so easily, then he obviously didn't pay attention at the academy.



w8m8, you are correct regarding the uniform giving many a sense of supreme power.  I've seen it first hand several times over.  I bumped into (well got pulled over by) a kid I went to school/graduated with.  He was a class clown but in the geeky kind of way.  The "cool" kids didn't want to have anything to do with him, teased him and whatnot.  And the popular girls didn't give him the time of day.  I ws also one of the "geeky-less popular" kids in school and was friends with him.  Not close friends but we did talk in school a lot.  Anyway, several years after graduating I was pulled over for going 30 in a 25.  Steve walked over to my car like Mr. Macho Man and said "license & registration please".  I knew immediately that it was him and was like "omg, Steve, how are you? I didn't know you became a cop" as I was getting my license & reg out.  He then proceeded with "do you know you were going 30 in a 25 mile zone?"  I said that I hadn't realized.  Didn't argue because I didn't really know, just thought I was keeping up with the rest of the cars.  He walked away to his car and called my plate in, came back and said "I'm giving you a warning.  Please maintain the correct speed that's posted.  Thank you." ...and walked away.  I was like ???   I also noticed it with my ex-husband.  He walked around like his shit didn't stink when in uniform, chewed on a tooth pick or gum with such arrogance.  Even my dad acted differently when on the job.  I remember him coming over to my car, squatting down to talk to me (I was in the driver's seat and my girlfriend was in the passenger seat).  A car drove by, wasn't going fast or anything and he stopped talking and whipped his head around to the direction of the car and whispered the plate number, then turned back towards us and continued talking.  It was a weird thing and I am sure he was trying to show off in front of my girlfriend.  I grew up knowing all his friends in the department and watched them do the same kind of stupid shit.  I don't even think they know they are doing it.  They just put on the uniform and morph, lol.

He was clearly upset about his poor genetics. Understandable.

Team Horrible Genetics approved
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 12, 2009, 10:22:26 AM
Actually Chick, he was not sane and rational.  He acted like a kid having a temper tantrum.  You should recognize that now that you have a child.  He started screaming at her as soon as they were at the end of the vehicle and never stopped, not to mention threw his ticket pad down on the ground like a spoiled brat.  Yes, she was mouthing off but he never once kept his calm once she was out of the vehicle.  He screamed, shoved and tazered.  He never spoke nicely to her (not that she did to him, but HE is the one who is supposed to keep calm, cool and collective).  And I don't blame him one bit for being angry, not at all, I would too, but again, it is HIS job to keep things together.  Screaming at a 72 year old person, shoving them back and tazering them is NOT keeping things together.  Things may have been different if he explained to her that it was important for them to move to the passsenger side of the vehicle so they wouldn't get hurt.  He could have nicely put his arm around her and said "I know you're upset but lets move over to this side so we don't get hurt and I can explain to you what this signature means...." which is what he's SUPPOSED TO DO...keep everything/everybody calm & safe.  Instead he screams back at her like a little kid, shoves her like a bully and tazers her like an asshole.  The tazer is supposed to be used instead of drawing your gun when the officer feels threatened.  Not to contain an elderly person who wants to get in her car.  Like w8m8 said, all officers are trained to know how to use the wrist twist and subdue motion, he did not use it.  He did grab her wrist once...if a grandmother can pull away from him like she did, so easily, then he obviously didn't pay attention at the academy.



w8m8, you are correct regarding the uniform giving many a sense of supreme power.  I've seen it first hand several times over.  I bumped into (well got pulled over by) a kid I went to school/graduated with.  He was a class clown but in the geeky kind of way.  The "cool" kids didn't want to have anything to do with him, teased him and whatnot.  And the popular girls didn't give him the time of day.  I ws also one of the "geeky-less popular" kids in school and was friends with him.  Not close friends but we did talk in school a lot.  Anyway, several years after graduating I was pulled over for going 30 in a 25.  Steve walked over to my car like Mr. Macho Man and said "license & registration please".  I knew immediately that it was him and was like "omg, Steve, how are you? I didn't know you became a cop" as I was getting my license & reg out.  He then proceeded with "do you know you were going 30 in a 25 mile zone?"  I said that I hadn't realized.  Didn't argue because I didn't really know, just thought I was keeping up with the rest of the cars.  He walked away to his car and called my plate in, came back and said "I'm giving you a warning.  Please maintain the correct speed that's posted.  Thank you." ...and walked away.  I was like ???   I also noticed it with my ex-husband.  He walked around like his shit didn't stink when in uniform, chewed on a tooth pick or gum with such arrogance.  Even my dad acted differently when on the job.  I remember him coming over to my car, squatting down to talk to me (I was in the driver's seat and my girlfriend was in the passenger seat).  A car drove by, wasn't going fast or anything and he stopped talking and whipped his head around to the direction of the car and whispered the plate number, then turned back towards us and continued talking.  It was a weird thing and I am sure he was trying to show off in front of my girlfriend.  I grew up knowing all his friends in the department and watched them do the same kind of stupid shit.  I don't even think they know they are doing it.  They just put on the uniform and morph, lol.


Once again...you are talking about a PORTION of a video...how do you know the officer didn't try ALL of the things you mentioned BEFORE the part you DO see? I can all but guarantee that the officer followed the same procedure he has with every other person he pulled over that day.  Highly doubtful he approached a 72 year old lady with any type of attitude initially.

SHE was the one speeding....SHE was the one with the attitude...SHE was the one being dificult and failing to obey the commands given.

Did he HAVE to use the taser?  No. 

He cant win either way....if he treats her with kid gloves, he gets the classic "Oh sure, just because she's old, she gets preferential treatment.."...Had he wristlocked her, he gets shit for manhandling an old lady...

I'm not even sure why she's out of the car in the first place....he could have ordered her out, she could have gotten out on her own despite being told to stay in te car (which is common)....

No matter how many ways you slice it...she's in the wrong from the start



I put it in the same context as the "illegal alien" who is treated poorly or unfairly.....THEY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.  Makes everything that happens afterwards subject to interpretation
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on June 12, 2009, 10:31:30 AM
Actually Chick, he was not sane and rational.  He acted like a kid having a temper tantrum.  You should recognize that now that you have a child.  He started screaming at her as soon as they were at the end of the vehicle and never stopped, not to mention threw his ticket pad down on the ground like a spoiled brat.  Yes, she was mouthing off but he never once kept his calm once she was out of the vehicle.  He screamed, shoved and tazered.  He never spoke nicely to her (not that she did to him, but HE is the one who is supposed to keep calm, cool and collective).  And I don't blame him one bit for being angry, not at all, I would too, but again, it is HIS job to keep things together.  Screaming at a 72 year old person, shoving them back and tazering them is NOT keeping things together.  Things may have been different if he explained to her that it was important for them to move to the passsenger side of the vehicle so they wouldn't get hurt.  He could have nicely put his arm around her and said "I know you're upset but lets move over to this side so we don't get hurt and I can explain to you what this signature means...." which is what he's SUPPOSED TO DO...keep everything/everybody calm & safe.  Instead he screams back at her like a little kid, shoves her like a bully and tazers her like an asshole.  The tazer is supposed to be used instead of drawing your gun when the officer feels threatened.  Not to contain an elderly person who wants to get in her car.  Like w8m8 said, all officers are trained to know how to use the wrist twist and subdue motion, he did not use it.  He did grab her wrist once...if a grandmother can pull away from him like she did, so easily, then he obviously didn't pay attention at the academy.



w8m8, you are correct regarding the uniform giving many a sense of supreme power.  I've seen it first hand several times over.  I bumped into (well got pulled over by) a kid I went to school/graduated with.  He was a class clown but in the geeky kind of way.  The "cool" kids didn't want to have anything to do with him, teased him and whatnot.  And the popular girls didn't give him the time of day.  I ws also one of the "geeky-less popular" kids in school and was friends with him.  Not close friends but we did talk in school a lot.  Anyway, several years after graduating I was pulled over for going 30 in a 25.  Steve walked over to my car like Mr. Macho Man and said "license & registration please".  I knew immediately that it was him and was like "omg, Steve, how are you? I didn't know you became a cop" as I was getting my license & reg out.  He then proceeded with "do you know you were going 30 in a 25 mile zone?"  I said that I hadn't realized.  Didn't argue because I didn't really know, just thought I was keeping up with the rest of the cars.  He walked away to his car and called my plate in, came back and said "I'm giving you a warning.  Please maintain the correct speed that's posted.  Thank you." ...and walked away.  I was like ???   I also noticed it with my ex-husband.  He walked around like his shit didn't stink when in uniform, chewed on a tooth pick or gum with such arrogance.  Even my dad acted differently when on the job.  I remember him coming over to my car, squatting down to talk to me (I was in the driver's seat and my girlfriend was in the passenger seat).  A car drove by, wasn't going fast or anything and he stopped talking and whipped his head around to the direction of the car and whispered the plate number, then turned back towards us and continued talking.  It was a weird thing and I am sure he was trying to show off in front of my girlfriend.  I grew up knowing all his friends in the department and watched them do the same kind of stupid shit.  I don't even think they know they are doing it.  They just put on the uniform and morph, lol.
Any Elvis books?
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: coltrane on June 12, 2009, 10:33:40 AM
She brought the action on herself by not following th command of the officer...it was by the book 100%

And youre a cop to know the laws/rules on what constitutes excessive force?  Please.

He clearly used excessive force on her as he EASILY couldn've put her down on the ground WITHOUT the use of the taser as excessive force. 
I'm a lawyer and ex cop.  Clearly excessive use of force.


If she were unable to be brought down, THEN taser MAY have been an option.  But you can't justify NOT being able to subdue a woman of this age with empty hands. 
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: LMV on June 12, 2009, 10:37:31 AM

Once again...you are talking about a PORTION of a video...how do you know the officer didn't try ALL of the things you mentioned BEFORE the part you DO see? I can all but guarantee that the officer followed the same procedure he has with every other person he pulled over that day.  Highly doubtful he approached a 72 year old lady with any type of attitude initially.

SHE was the one speeding....SHE was the one with the attitude...SHE was the one being dificult and failing to obey the commands given.

Did he HAVE to use the taser?  No. 

He cant win either way....if he treats her with kid gloves, he gets the classic "Oh sure, just because she's old, she gets preferential treatment.."...Had he wristlocked her, he gets shit for manhandling an old lady...

I'm not even sure why she's out of the car in the first place....he could have ordered her out, she could have gotten out on her own despite being told to stay in te car (which is common)....

No matter how many ways you slice it...she's in the wrong from the start



I put it in the same context as the "illegal alien" who is treated poorly or unfairly.....THEY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.  Makes everything that happens afterwards subject to interpretation

Statements like these make us, policy makers end legislators of the IFBB, proud to have you on board dear fellow.

Carry on son, you'll go far.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 12, 2009, 10:39:58 AM
And your a cop to know the laws/rules on this?  Please.

He clearly used excessive force on her as he EASILY couldn've put her down on the ground WITHOUT the use of the taser as excessive force. 
I'm a lawyer and ex cop.  Clearly excessive use of force.


If she were unable to be brought down, THEN taser MAY have been an option.  But you can't justify NOT being able to subdue a woman of this age with empty hands. 

I'm a former Deputy Sheriff, so yes, I feel qualified to comment.....and putting her to the ground could be construed as "excessive force" just as easily, counselor...one would think a former cop and lawyer would know that.

It's not "clearly" anything
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: dr.chimps on June 12, 2009, 10:44:15 AM
I'm a former Deputy Sheriff, so yes, I feel qualified to comment.....and putting her to the ground could be construed as "excessive force" just as easily, counselor...one would think a former cop and lawyer would know that.

It's not "clearly" anything
Um, you're actually agreeing with his point here, Chick.  ???
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Deicide on June 12, 2009, 10:45:14 AM
Um, you're actually agreeing with his point here, Chick.  ???



Team Daniel Hannan approved
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on June 12, 2009, 10:46:30 AM
Look,any cop is fucked automatically facing such a situation
If he cuffed her there wud be headlines,if he let her walk out in front of the traffic there wud be headlines
Fuck her,she wont disrespect a cop again in a hurry
Playing the poor old lady card is like something a black does when he has a bit of hassle with cops
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: coltrane on June 12, 2009, 10:48:04 AM
I'm a former Deputy Sheriff, so yes, I feel qualified to comment.....and putting her to the ground could be construed as "excessive force" just as easily, counselor...one would think a former cop and lawyer would know that.

It's not "clearly" anything

As a deputy sheriff wouldn't you have learned the "Force Continuum" and discovered that putting her to the ground would have been a lesser force than using a taser?  

You learned (or should have learn, as I did in the Chautauqua County Sheriff's Academy years ago) that you can only move up one level of force with that of what your suspect is giving.  

End result is that he should had tried to subdue the woman by bringing her down and cuffing her before resorting to tasing.  This is CLEARLY what should have happened.  I'd LOVE to have you on the stand Chick.  ;D
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: polychronopolous on June 12, 2009, 10:48:54 AM
WTF has happened to getbig?  The whole argument boils down to a. she was old and b. she was unattractive.  Therefore, since she wasn't hitable material, the cop did everybody a favor.  Besides, the old hag sounded like she was having her first orgasm in 30+ years, so everybody wins.

hahahahahahaha!!!

that fucking funny  ;D :) :D
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 12, 2009, 10:49:46 AM
Um, you're actually agreeing with his point here, Chick.  ???

Um...actually I'm not....read it again

He's implying that putting her to the ground would NOT have been deemed excessive use of force....

I'm saying that putting her to the ground could very WELL have been deemed as excessive force as well...

Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: coltrane on June 12, 2009, 10:54:47 AM
Putting her to the ground could be deemed excessive by the public, yes, but not by police protocol.  It's what should've been done.

Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: dr.chimps on June 12, 2009, 10:57:05 AM
Um...actually I'm not....read it again

He's implying that putting her to the ground would NOT have been deemed excessive use of force....

I'm saying that putting her to the ground could very WELL have been deemed as excessive force as well...
Right you are, Chick. BTW, the local lads on the force call guys like this 'hammers' as they just go round looking for nails to pound.  ;)
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 12, 2009, 10:57:48 AM
As a deputy sheriff wouldn't you have learned the "Force Continuum" and discovered that putting her to the ground would have been a lesser force than using a taser?  

You learned (or should have learn, as I did in the Chautauqua County Sheriff's Academy years ago) that you can only move up one level of force with that of what your suspect is giving.  

End result is that he should had tried to subdue the woman by bringing her down and cuffing her prior to tasing.  This is CLEARLY what should have happened.  I'd LOVE to have you on the stand Chick.  ;D

Please....putting her to the ground would have been looked at just the same...

What I learned in the Monroe County Sheriff's dept years ago, was that you can use whatever force is deemed necessary to remedy the situation with the least amount of altercation taking place...

And please....spare me the "I'd love to have you on the stand bullshit, Perry Mason..."

End result was your client was choosing to disobey a direct command given (numerous times), was aggravating the situation, and putting the safety of herself as well as the officer in jeopardy.

Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: coltrane on June 12, 2009, 10:59:53 AM
Please....putting her to the ground would have been looked at just the same...

What I learned in the Monroe County Sheriff's dept years ago, was that you can use whatever force is deemed necessary to remedy the situation with the least amount of altercation taking place...
And please....spare me the "I'd love to have you on the stand bullshit, Perry Mason..."

End result was your client was choosing to disobey a direct command given (numerous times), was aggravating the situation, and putting the safety of herself as well as the officer in jeopardy.



Well then by your logic, genius, why don't cops just shoot every suspect?    This would provide for no altercation.

Before you post, read what you wrote, and think... "do i make sense here?"
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 12, 2009, 11:04:07 AM
Well then by your logic, genius, why don't cops just shoot every suspect?    This would provide for no altercation.

Before you post, read what you wrote, and think... "do i make sense here?"

And your analogy IS making sense?  You just made a compete fool of yourself
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: coltrane on June 12, 2009, 11:05:30 AM
Without bashing each other personally, Chick, look up the following:

Force Continuum



Officer's are supposed to meet force given to them with an elevation of one level of force to combat the suspect with.

Here, she was verbally yelling and not following his orders.  The level above "verbal" command is hand tactics, like wrestling to the ground.  Above the wrestling (empty hand tactics) you then get into the tasers..then sprays.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: coltrane on June 12, 2009, 11:07:38 AM
CHick, you said  that cops can use whatever force necessary that provides the least altercation. 


THis would mean that it's ok to shoot a petty thief bc it provides zero altercation.   


You're really making this too easy for me.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 12, 2009, 11:11:31 AM
CHick, you said  that cops can use whatever force necessary that provides the least altercation. 


THis would mean that it's ok to shoot a petty thief bc it provides zero altercation.   


You're really making this too easy for me.

Too stupid to even warrent a response
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: bigmc on June 12, 2009, 11:12:03 AM
Without bashing each other personally, Chick, look up the following:

Force Continuum



Officer's are supposed to meet force given to them with an elevation of one level of force to combat the suspect with.

Here, she was verbally yelling and not following his orders.  The level above "verbal" command is hand tactics, like wrestling to the ground.  Above the wrestling (empty hand tactics) you then get into the tasers..then sprays.

muppet,

the level of force is what can be justified at the time based on perception and what is happening.

in the heat of the moment its not always easy to get the rule book out
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: polychronopolous on June 12, 2009, 11:12:55 AM
Too stupid to even warrent a response

 :)
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: coltrane on June 12, 2009, 11:13:46 AM
muppet,

the level of force is what can be justified at the time based on perception and what is happening.

in the heat of the moment its not always easy to get the rule book out

Idiot:

that's why you go to a police academy and learn the force continuum.  It's very basic.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: coltrane on June 12, 2009, 11:15:23 AM
Too stupid to even warrent a response

How so?

I think your just ignorant of the correct way a police officer is supposed to handle a situation.  You obviously didn't learn the continuum in your academy.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: coltrane on June 12, 2009, 11:20:27 AM
Really, look up the correct way to handle the situation.   Officer is allowed to increase his use of force one notch above that of his suspect.   This is based on the use of force continuum.

You guys really are thick today
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 12, 2009, 11:20:56 AM
Perhaps this will help you:





Use of Force
Every day, law enforcement officers face danger while carrying out their responsibilities. When dealing with a dangerous—or unpredictable—situation, police officers usually have very little time to assess it and determine the proper response. Here, good training can enable the officer to react properly to the threat or possible threat and respond with the appropriate tactics to address the situation, possibly including some level of force, if necessary, given the circumstances.

The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights has stated that "…in diffusing situations, apprehending alleged criminals, and protecting themselves and others, officers are legally entitled to use appropriate means, including force." In dozens of studies of police use of force there is no single, accepted definition among the researchers, analysts, or the police. The International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP) in its study, Police Use of Force in America 2001, defined use of force as "The amount of effort required by police to compel compliance by an unwilling subject." The IACP also identified five components of force: physical, chemical, electronic, impact, and firearm. To some people, though, the mere presence of a police officer can be intimidating and seen as use of force.

The Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) in Data Collection on Police Use of Force, states that "…the legal test of excessive force…is whether the police officer reasonably believed that such force was necessary to accomplish a legitimate police purpose…" However, there are no universally accepted definitions of "reasonable" and "necessary" because the terms are subjective. A court in one jurisdiction may define "reasonable" or "necessary" differently than a court in a second jurisdiction. More to the point is an understanding of the "improper" use of force, which can be divided into two categories: "unnecessary" and "excessive." The unnecessary use of force would be the application of force where there is no justification for its use, while an excessive use of force would be the application of more force than required where use of force is necessary.

Contacts between Police and the Public, a 1999 BJS report, estimated that less than half of 1 percent of an estimated 44 million people who had face-to-face contact with a police officer were threatened with or actually experienced force. Other studies report similar statistics. It is these few situations, however, that attract public attention. Robert K. Olsen, former Minneapolis Police Chief and Past President, Police Executive Research Forum (PERF), early in 2004 called the use of force "the single most volatile issue facing police departments." He noted that "just one use of force incident can dramatically alter the stability of a police department and its relationship with a community."

Police department policies can have a significant impact on how force is used in street-level encounters, says a 2003 study by the Community Relations Services of the U.S. Department of Justice, Principles of Good Policing: Avoiding Violence Between Police and Citizens. And, the BJS Data Collection report mentioned above stresses the need for police executives to improve training of recruits and police officers on the use of force and the techniques for minimizing its application.





Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: bigmc on June 12, 2009, 11:22:46 AM
Idiot:

that's why you go to a police academy and learn the force continuum.  It's very basic.

10 years doing the job princess

means alot more than an internet twink like you spouting shit
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Deicide on June 12, 2009, 11:23:38 AM
Perhaps this will help you:





Use of Force
Every day, law enforcement officers face danger while carrying out their responsibilities. When dealing with a dangerous—or unpredictable—situation, police officers usually have very little time to assess it and determine the proper response. Here, good training can enable the officer to react properly to the threat or possible threat and respond with the appropriate tactics to address the situation, possibly including some level of force, if necessary, given the circumstances.

The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights has stated that "…in diffusing situations, apprehending alleged criminals, and protecting themselves and others, officers are legally entitled to use appropriate means, including force." In dozens of studies of police use of force there is no single, accepted definition among the researchers, analysts, or the police. The International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP) in its study, Police Use of Force in America 2001, defined use of force as "The amount of effort required by police to compel compliance by an unwilling subject." The IACP also identified five components of force: physical, chemical, electronic, impact, and firearm. To some people, though, the mere presence of a police officer can be intimidating and seen as use of force.

The Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) in Data Collection on Police Use of Force, states that "…the legal test of excessive force…is whether the police officer reasonably believed that such force was necessary to accomplish a legitimate police purpose…" However, there are no universally accepted definitions of "reasonable" and "necessary" because the terms are subjective. A court in one jurisdiction may define "reasonable" or "necessary" differently than a court in a second jurisdiction. More to the point is an understanding of the "improper" use of force, which can be divided into two categories: "unnecessary" and "excessive." The unnecessary use of force would be the application of force where there is no justification for its use, while an excessive use of force would be the application of more force than required where use of force is necessary.

Contacts between Police and the Public, a 1999 BJS report, estimated that less than half of 1 percent of an estimated 44 million people who had face-to-face contact with a police officer were threatened with or actually experienced force. Other studies report similar statistics. It is these few situations, however, that attract public attention. Robert K. Olsen, former Minneapolis Police Chief and Past President, Police Executive Research Forum (PERF), early in 2004 called the use of force "the single most volatile issue facing police departments." He noted that "just one use of force incident can dramatically alter the stability of a police department and its relationship with a community."

Police department policies can have a significant impact on how force is used in street-level encounters, says a 2003 study by the Community Relations Services of the U.S. Department of Justice, Principles of Good Policing: Avoiding Violence Between Police and Citizens. And, the BJS Data Collection report mentioned above stresses the need for police executives to improve training of recruits and police officers on the use of force and the techniques for minimizing its application.







Fuck this, time to fix this thread:

Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: coltrane on June 12, 2009, 11:26:21 AM
10 years doing the job princess

means alot more than an internet twink like you spouting shit

lol.  Seriously?  10 WHOLE years?  WOW.

I did it for 7.  Now I am a defense attorney.  I have far greater brain capacity than you twinkie.

OH, and it's "a lot" not "alot".
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: coltrane on June 12, 2009, 11:28:54 AM
Perhaps this will help you:





Use of Force
Every day, law enforcement officers face danger while carrying out their responsibilities. When dealing with a dangerous—or unpredictable—situation, police officers usually have very little time to assess it and determine the proper response. Here, good training can enable the officer to react properly to the threat or possible threat and respond with the appropriate tactics to address the situation, possibly including some level of force, if necessary, given the circumstances.

The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights has stated that "…in diffusing situations, apprehending alleged criminals, and protecting themselves and others, officers are legally entitled to use appropriate means, including force." In dozens of studies of police use of force there is no single, accepted definition among the researchers, analysts, or the police. The International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP) in its study, Police Use of Force in America 2001, defined use of force as "The amount of effort required by police to compel compliance by an unwilling subject." The IACP also identified five components of force: physical, chemical, electronic, impact, and firearm. To some people, though, the mere presence of a police officer can be intimidating and seen as use of force.

The Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) in Data Collection on Police Use of Force, states that "…the legal test of excessive force…is whether the police officer reasonably believed that such force was necessary to accomplish a legitimate police purpose…" However, there are no universally accepted definitions of "reasonable" and "necessary" because the terms are subjective. A court in one jurisdiction may define "reasonable" or "necessary" differently than a court in a second jurisdiction. More to the point is an understanding of the "improper" use of force, which can be divided into two categories: "unnecessary" and "excessive." The unnecessary use of force would be the application of force where there is no justification for its use, while an excessive use of force would be the application of more force than required where use of force is necessary.

Contacts between Police and the Public, a 1999 BJS report, estimated that less than half of 1 percent of an estimated 44 million people who had face-to-face contact with a police officer were threatened with or actually experienced force. Other studies report similar statistics. It is these few situations, however, that attract public attention. Robert K. Olsen, former Minneapolis Police Chief and Past President, Police Executive Research Forum (PERF), early in 2004 called the use of force "the single most volatile issue facing police departments." He noted that "just one use of force incident can dramatically alter the stability of a police department and its relationship with a community."

Police department policies can have a significant impact on how force is used in street-level encounters, says a 2003 study by the Community Relations Services of the U.S. Department of Justice, Principles of Good Policing: Avoiding Violence Between Police and Citizens. And, the BJS Data Collection report mentioned above stresses the need for police executives to improve training of recruits and police officers on the use of force and the techniques for minimizing its application.







Chick, i understand what youre saying and all, but you're missing the point.  He used more than the amount of force necessary.  He could have used less.  That's the situation in a nutshell.  Was the woman a jackass, yes.  But cops have to follow protocol. 
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 12, 2009, 11:33:43 AM
You're right..he COULD have...but he didn't.

And she COULD have simply signed the ticket and been on her way...

Bottom line is, if she doesn't act like a Jackass...none of it takes place to even debate.

The use of force could have been physical, and resulted in injury...

Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: chaos on June 12, 2009, 11:35:19 AM
lol.  Seriously?  10 WHOLE years?  WOW.

I did it for 7.  Now I am a defense attorney.  I have far greater brain capacity than you twinkie.

OH, and it's "a lot" not "alot".
So you protect the baby rapers and dealers that supply our children with drugs?

You're a piece of shit scumbag, just like your clients.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: bigmc on June 12, 2009, 11:37:03 AM
So you protect the baby rapers and dealers that supply our children with drugs?

You're a piece of shit scumbag, just like your clients.

we should have seen it coming

lawyers are the scum of the earth

no wonder he is spouting shit
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: coltrane on June 12, 2009, 11:42:20 AM
Just trying to school/teach some brain dead cops how to do their jobs correctly.  That's all.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: bigmc on June 12, 2009, 11:45:11 AM
Just trying to school/teach some brain dead cops how to do their jobs correctly.  That's all.

maybe you should look at yourself in the mirror

and ponder your contribution to the downfall of society
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: coltrane on June 12, 2009, 11:47:26 AM
maybe you should look at yourself in the mirror

and ponder your contribution to the downfall of society

lol. 

Prototypical cop I bet you are. 
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 12, 2009, 11:48:49 AM
Just trying to school/teach some brain dead cops how to do their jobs correctly.  That's all.

Maybe you could hold a few seminars for elderly citizens teaching them how to act properly so as to not incite the use of force by an officer?
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: bigmc on June 12, 2009, 11:50:33 AM
lol. 

Prototypical cop I bet you are. 

rather that than

a typical lawyer

keeping the scum on the streets
 
what a cock jocky
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: coltrane on June 12, 2009, 11:51:09 AM
Maybe you could hold a few seminars for elderly citizens teaching them how to act properly so as to not incite the use of force by an officer?

Maybe if you would've paid attention in your petty police academy classes you would understand this topic a tad bit better.  Or maybe it was just kinda tough for ya.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: coltrane on June 12, 2009, 11:52:48 AM
rather that than

a typical lawyer

keeping the scum on the streets
 
what a cock jocky

Your Heiku poem styled responses are hysterical and really do show your lack of intelligence.  However, I really don't find it surprising at all coming from a supposed 10 year veteren cop.

Good day Sir!
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 12, 2009, 11:56:26 AM
Maybe if you would've paid attention in your petty police academy classes you would understand this topic a tad bit better.  Or maybe it was just kinda tough for ya.

Are you defending the actions of the lady?
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: bigmc on June 12, 2009, 11:57:28 AM
Your Heiku poem styled responses are hysterical and really do show your lack of intelligence.  However, I really don't find it surprising at all coming from a supposed 10 year veteren cop.

Good day Sir!

wow,

you are really a cock

Brutal fake internet intelligence

i bet you work at macdonalds
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: tommywishbone on June 12, 2009, 11:57:46 AM
A 10 page thread, debating whether or not police should use a tazer on a 72 year old woman. Wow.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: chaos on June 12, 2009, 11:58:30 AM
Are you defending the actions of the lady?
He said he was a defense lawyer..... ::)

lol.  Seriously?  10 WHOLE years?  WOW.

I did it for 7.  Now I am a defense attorney.  I have far greater brain capacity than you twinkie.

OH, and it's "a lot" not "alot".
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: coltrane on June 12, 2009, 12:00:22 PM
Not one bit chick.  Not one bit.  She was acting like a complete jackass and I love that he tazed her ass.  Yes she deserved it.

BUT, it was excessive in that he could've subdued her with less forceful means.  That's what a cop is supposed to be trained to do.  I've done that job and know it is tough in the situation to not get pissed and use lots of force.  


Chick, she is 72.  She easily could've been taken down without that excessive amount of force.  Actually I think that cop gave other cops a bad name.  Cops are to be trained in using the correct amount of force.  This was excessive.  Please look into the force continuum.  I'm surprised that you didn't learn that.. we're both from NY academys
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: bigmc on June 12, 2009, 12:01:51 PM
Not one bit chick.  Not one bit.  She was acting like a complete jackass and I love that he tazed her ass.  Yes she deserved it.

BUT, it was excessive in that he could've subdued her with less forceful means.  That's what a cop is supposed to be trained to do.  I've done that job and know it is tough in the situation to not get pissed and use lots of force.  


Chick, she is 72.  She easily could've been taken down without that excessive amount of force.  Actually I think that cop gave other cops a bad name.  Cops are to be trained in using the correct amount of force.  This was excessive.  Please look into the force continuum.  I'm surprised that you didn't learn that.. we're both from NY academys

you were never a cop
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Option D on June 12, 2009, 12:03:50 PM
A 10 page thread, debating whether or not police should use a tazer on a 72 year old woman. Wow.

lol... i feel you tommy...
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: coltrane on June 12, 2009, 12:03:58 PM
you were never a cop

I was.  I even gave the County in NY.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: bigmc on June 12, 2009, 12:06:36 PM
I was.  I even gave the County in NY.

no way skippy

an ex cop wouldn't spout the bullshit you come out with

your arguments are straight out  of the

how to be a defense lawyer in ten easy steps text book

like i said your greatest challenge is getting people to supersize their meals
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: coltrane on June 12, 2009, 12:08:11 PM
no way skippy

an ex cop wouldn't spout the bullshit you come out with

your arguments are straight out  of the

how to be a defense lawyer in ten easy steps text book

like i said your greatest challenge is getting people to supersize their meals

You're not a cop.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 12, 2009, 12:08:24 PM
Not one bit chick.  Not one bit.  She was acting like a complete jackass and I love that he tazed her ass.  Yes she deserved it.

BUT, it was excessive in that he could've subdued her with less forceful means.  That's what a cop is supposed to be trained to do.  I've done that job and know it is tough in the situation to not get pissed and use lots of force.  


Chick, she is 72.  She easily could've been taken down without that excessive amount of force.  Actually I think that cop gave other cops a bad name.  Cops are to be trained in using the correct amount of force.  This was excessive.  Please look into the force continuum.  I'm surprised that you didn't learn that.. we're both from NY academys


Yep...and here is what I learned:



FACTORS:

Nature of offense
3rd party actions
Physical odds
Feasibility / availability of alternatives

May use whatever force is necessary and reasonable under the circumstances to protect from imminent bodily harm

There are four elements necessary to be present for the use of force to be justified. Those elements are ability, opportunity, jeopardy, and no reasonable alternative.

In level I, the subject is considered compliant. The officer's response would be the use of verbal commands and simply his presence. These are known as cooperative controls.

In level II, the subject is considered passively resistant. The officer would respond with contact techniques such as the escort position and other touch techniques.

In level III, the subject is actively resistant. This level would require the officer to use compliance techniques, such as OC spray, or control and restraint techniques.

Level IV involves an assaultive subject. The officer operating within this level of the model would use defensive tactics and impact techniques along with intermediate or personal weapons.
Level V on the use of force model is the highest level of force, deadly force. Here, the subject is in the assaultive stage and is an imminent threat to cause death or serious bodily injury. The officer would be authorized to use deadly force to stop the subject.

Police officer's would shoot to stop in a deadly force scenario. Shoot to stop means that police are only permitted to discharge firearms to make the subject stop committing deadly force. Police are not authorized to shoot to kill or wound.

The use of force is conduct that invades another's interest or personality. If you are not privileged to use force, then the use of force will constitute assault, battery, or false imprisonment.

Excessive force is force that does not fit the totality of the circumstances. It is considered force beyond that which is needed to resolve the situation.

Reasonable force is force that is not excessive. It is an appropriate level of force that is needed for gaining compliance.

Constructive force is any force that produces fear sufficient to suspend the power of resistance and prevent the exercise of will. An example of constructive force is a group of officers surrounding a person.

Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: bigmc on June 12, 2009, 12:09:36 PM
You're not a cop.

great comeback  ::)

get me some fries
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: coltrane on June 12, 2009, 12:12:09 PM

Yep...and here is what I learned:



FACTORS:

Nature of offense
3rd party actions
Physical odds
Feasibility / availability of alternatives

May use whatever force is necessary and reasonable under the circumstances to protect from imminent bodily harm

There are four elements necessary to be present for the use of force to be justified. Those elements are ability, opportunity, jeopardy, and no reasonable alternative.

In level I, the subject is considered compliant. The officer's response would be the use of verbal commands and simply his presence. These are known as cooperative controls.

In level II, the subject is considered passively resistant. The officer would respond with contact techniques such as the escort position and other touch techniques.

In level III, the subject is actively resistant. This level would require the officer to use compliance techniques, such as OC spray, or control and restraint techniques.

Level IV involves an assaultive subject. The officer operating within this level of the model would use defensive tactics and impact techniques along with intermediate or personal weapons.
Level V on the use of force model is the highest level of force, deadly force. Here, the subject is in the assaultive stage and is an imminent threat to cause death or serious bodily injury. The officer would be authorized to use deadly force to stop the subject.

Police officer's would shoot to stop in a deadly force scenario. Shoot to stop means that police are only permitted to discharge firearms to make the subject stop committing deadly force. Police are not authorized to shoot to kill or wound.

The use of force is conduct that invades another's interest or personality. If you are not privileged to use force, then the use of force will constitute assault, battery, or false imprisonment.

Excessive force is force that does not fit the totality of the circumstances. It is considered force beyond that which is needed to resolve the situation.

Reasonable force is force that is not excessive. It is an appropriate level of force that is needed for gaining compliance.

Constructive force is any force that produces fear sufficient to suspend the power of resistance and prevent the exercise of will. An example of constructive force is a group of officers surrounding a person.



Right Chick, that is one model of the force continuum.  I learned a differenct one, but generally that's it.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: coltrane on June 12, 2009, 12:13:44 PM
great comeback  ::)

get me some fries

Simpleton.  Pure simpleton.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 12, 2009, 12:14:30 PM
Awesome....than you can clearly see, she is between level 3-4...and the officer chose to go to the taser....could have pepper sprayed her as well if he had it on him.

Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: polychronopolous on June 12, 2009, 12:17:23 PM
A 10 page thread, debating whether or not police should use a tazer on a 72 year old woman. Wow.

 8)
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: coltrane on June 12, 2009, 12:18:17 PM
"Clearly" is, as debated before, the word today.

I don't see her resistance that high.  I think, being 72, she was at level II.

This would allow for the next level up in force, level III.

He used level IV impact weapons.


We can debate this all day and get to the same conclusion... we simply disagree.  
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Chick on June 12, 2009, 12:21:47 PM
Actually, we do agree on one thing....that it was HER actions that prompted the chain of events.

She signs the ticket, she's home watching Wheel of Fortune with her cat...
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: regmac on June 12, 2009, 12:22:27 PM
Yeah saw thaty on the news.   The video causes the owrld to overlook the facts.   The bch was acting up and the cop tased her for her own safety.   But like Rodney   the cops are always the bad guys!!!!
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: coltrane on June 12, 2009, 12:24:07 PM
Actually, we do agree on one thing....that it was HER actions that prompted the chain of events.

She signs the ticket, she's home watching Wheel of Fortune with her cat...

10-4 on that.

Nice arguing with you.  No hard feelings with the name calling Chick!
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 12, 2009, 12:43:44 PM
Old people smell funny.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Option D on June 12, 2009, 01:04:05 PM
Old people smell funny.
GOT THAT RIGHT!!!!
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Tapeworm on June 12, 2009, 01:28:22 PM
Actually Chick, he was not sane and rational.  He acted like a kid having a temper tantrum.  You should recognize that now that you have a child.  He started screaming at her as soon as they were at the end of the vehicle and never stopped, not to mention threw his ticket pad down on the ground like a spoiled brat.  Yes, she was mouthing off but he never once kept his calm once she was out of the vehicle.  He screamed, shoved and tazered.  He never spoke nicely to her (not that she did to him, but HE is the one who is supposed to keep calm, cool and collective).  And I don't blame him one bit for being angry, not at all, I would too, but again, it is HIS job to keep things together.  Screaming at a 72 year old person, shoving them back and tazering them is NOT keeping things together.  Things may have been different if he explained to her that it was important for them to move to the passsenger side of the vehicle so they wouldn't get hurt.  He could have nicely put his arm around her and said "I know you're upset but lets move over to this side so we don't get hurt and I can explain to you what this signature means...." which is what he's SUPPOSED TO DO...keep everything/everybody calm & safe.  Instead he screams back at her like a little kid, shoves her like a bully and tazers her like an asshole.  The tazer is supposed to be used instead of drawing your gun when the officer feels threatened.  Not to contain an elderly person who wants to get in her car.  Like w8m8 said, all officers are trained to know how to use the wrist twist and subdue motion, he did not use it.  He did grab her wrist once...if a grandmother can pull away from him like she did, so easily, then he obviously didn't pay attention at the academy.


Hell yes.  The man completely lost his cool.  Hope his conduct is reviewed by someone other than his buddy Sheriff Shitkicker.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: polychronopolous on June 12, 2009, 01:33:07 PM
Hell yes.  The man completely lost his cool.  Hope his conduct is reviewed by someone other than his buddy Sheriff Shitkicker.

LOL!

well it is texas you know...
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Tapeworm on June 12, 2009, 01:45:23 PM
LOL!

well it is texas you know...

That guy was straining to string a sentence together.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: w8m8 on June 12, 2009, 01:51:23 PM
..

I bet there's not many people who've seen things like that Laura and will say so , bravo to you ... ;)
It's not ever going to cease to amaze me how wrong behavior can be explained away by the brotherhood of blue.
I agree they mostly don't see it themselves , that's too bad too.

It doesn't surprise me on Getbig to see some of the things people say , but I get surprised now and then by how different people really are.
All of the rough tough bantering talk give the place the "charm and attraction " it has that is undeniable.
But when I consider it's a bunch of big strong bodybuilding guys , all so masculine and hard sounding .. I am a little bit struck by the thought they can't see any other way to handle an old lady .... and that she was such a dangerous threat to anything


Hell yes.  The man completely lost his cool.  Hope his conduct is reviewed by someone other than his buddy Sheriff Shitkicker.

He  doesn't have to keep his head , there's a rule that says he can go to the next level .. just like in video games  ::)
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: chaos on June 12, 2009, 01:55:00 PM
I bet there's not many people who've seen things like that Laura and will say so , bravo to you ... ;)
It's not ever going to cease to amaze me how wrong behavior can be explained away by the brotherhood of blue.
I agree they mostly don't see it themselves , that's too bad too.

It doesn't surprise me on Getbig to see some of the things people say , but I get surprised now and then by how different people really are.
All of the rough tough bantering talk give the place the "charm and attraction " it has that is undeniable.
But when I consider it's a bunch of big strong bodybuilding guys , all so masculine and hard sounding .. I am a little bit struck by the thought they can't see any other way to handle an old lady .... and that she was such a dangerous threat to anything


He  doesn't have to keep his head , there's a rule that says he can go to the next level .. just like in video games  ::)
If it helps you feel better, I would have tackled her and given her an open mouthed kiss.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: w8m8 on June 12, 2009, 02:01:32 PM
If it helps you feel better, I would have tackled her and given her an open mouthed kiss.

THANK YOU  .... now I'm better .. there's a good guy with the right way to handle things  ;D :-*
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: jtsunami on June 12, 2009, 08:20:17 PM
Hell yes.  The man completely lost his cool.  Hope his conduct is reviewed by someone other than his buddy Sheriff Shitkicker.

the woman lost her cool, first off a officer greets you politely how is your day, may I please see your license etc etc, she is the one who took the whole situation out of control, she never even need to get out of her car, or start yelling, refusing to sign a ticket is just plain stupid, there is a process to go about if you want to claim you are innocent, go to court easy as that, not sure if she thinks she is above the law?

jt
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: TechnoViking on June 12, 2009, 11:53:25 PM
Why did the guy let your out of the car?
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Tapeworm on June 13, 2009, 12:17:43 AM
Why did the guy let your out of the car?

He opened the door and ordered her out.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: @Brandon on June 13, 2009, 01:10:31 AM
Maybe he wanted to taser her.
Pretty easy to escalate a situation until you can finally taser someone.
Some cops build up a lot of frustration and need to unleash some anger.


I was arrested by mistake when i was young by good cops and bad cops.

I was walking in a park, cops running and shooting after some suspects.
(Already making mistakes shooting and running full speed at the same time)

They thought i was one of the suspects, cuffed me standing.
They were adrenaline pumped, no use explaining things atm.
The cops did everything they could to try to make me disobey any order.

"ON THE GROUND NOW!!!" less than 1second later they pull away my legs
trying to make me fall on my face "Fucking do as you are told!!"

I just bounce on my pecks while they are still holding up my legs, no harm done.
I could see they get mad now.

"Don't say a fucking word!!!"

Cops starting to ask me questions
I start to answer...then:"WE TOLD YOU TO SHUT UP!!"
"One more word and we will hammer you with the sticks, this is the last warning!!"

Cops keeps asking me questions while screaming:"FUCKING ANSWER!!!"
I did not say a word, they could not beat me.

Patrol car came and told them they got the wrong guy.
I invite them to spar with me at a local gym to get them back, but they
just jumped into the car and drove away in a hurry.


Some better cops:

I was driving around on a holiday, forced to stop by two civilian cars.
civilians open my door trying to drag me out, I drag him into the car instead.

They make me give up by pulling guns on me.

No beating at all even when I rapechoked one of them in my car,
leaving a purple mark on his throat.






Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Pecs on June 13, 2009, 01:16:45 AM
Maybe he wanted to taser her.
Pretty easy to escalate a situation until you can finally taser someone.
Some cops build up a lot of frustration and need to unleash some anger.


I was arrested by mistake when i was young by good cops and bad cops.

I was walking in a park, cops running and shooting after some suspects.
(Already making mistakes shooting and running full speed at the same time)

They thought i was one of the suspects, cuffed me standing.
They were adrenaline pumped, no use explaining things atm.
The cops did everything they could to try to make me disobey any order.

"ON THE GROUND NOW!!!" less than 1second later they pull away my legs
trying to make me fall on my face "Fucking do as you are told!!"

I just bounce on my pecks while they are still holding up my legs, no harm done.
I could see they get mad now.

"Don't say a fucking word!!!"

Cops starting to ask me questions
I start to answer...then:"WE TOLD YOU TO SHUT UP!!"
"One more word and we will hammer you with the sticks, this is the last warning!!"

Cops keeps asking me questions while screaming:"FUCKING ANSWER!!!"
I did not say a word, they could not beat me.

Patrol car came and told them they got the wrong guy.
I invite them to spar with me at a local gym to get them back, but they
just jumped into the car and drove away in a hurry.


Some better cops:

I was driving around on a holiday, forced to stop by two civilian cars.
civilians open my door trying to drag me out, I drag him into the car instead.

They make me give up by pulling guns on me.

No beating at all even when I rapechoked one of them in my car,
leaving a purple mark on his throat.








there are bad and good cops.......
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Meso_z on June 13, 2009, 02:41:34 AM
hahahaha, i keep watching and watchinf the video when she drops down "screaming"....hahaha fucking wreck.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: webcake on June 13, 2009, 02:43:35 AM
12 pages?!

Fuck, it ain't that special.......
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on June 13, 2009, 03:08:44 AM
that was inhumane
The woman could of died and he knew it
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on June 13, 2009, 03:11:17 AM
that was inhumane
The woman could of died and he knew it
Well she wont speed again
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: webcake on June 13, 2009, 03:15:09 AM
that was inhumane
The woman could of died and he knew it

Maybe next time she won't act like such a fucking prick........
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: SAMSON123 on June 13, 2009, 03:45:02 AM
that was inhumane
The woman could of died and he knew it

Many HEALTHY AND YOUNG adults have died from being TAZERED. That weapon is CRIMINALLY INHUMANE.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on June 13, 2009, 03:53:19 AM
Many HEALTHY AND YOUNG adults have died from being TAZERED. That weapon is CRIMINALLY INHUMANE.
Puts manners on people though
Thats the worlds problem nowadays,nobody respects cops etc
Everyone wants to be 'ghetto'
Even old c unt ladies
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Tyr on June 13, 2009, 04:01:24 AM

Everyone wants to be 'ghetto'
Even old c unt ladies

Sad but true
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Meso_z on June 13, 2009, 06:54:19 AM
that was inhumane
The woman could of died and he knew it

shes about 5', 72 year old, and driving a truck, SPEEDING. then she claims her age to get away....fucking old bitch.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 13, 2009, 06:55:17 AM
shes about 5', 72 year old, and driving a truck, SPEEDING. then she claims her age to get away....fucking old bitch.
Yea its time to whip out some policy on her ass ;D
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 13, 2009, 07:25:47 AM
Many HEALTHY AND YOUNG adults have died from being TAZERED. That weapon is CRIMINALLY INHUMANE.

Yes, but the garbage who had it used on them after raping, mugging, driving like maniacs, etc...are sooooo humane....   ::)


ALL you have to do is obey the law, and if questioned by an officer, do what they say and you will never have to worry about it.... 8)
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: ManBearPig... on June 13, 2009, 12:04:56 PM


ALL you have to do is obey the law, and if questioned by an officer, do what they say and you will never have to worry about it.... 8)

some of my best friends i've known since birth are cops.  i don't know if you remember the whole "cops should go sensitivity training" shit from a while ago, i guess it started with rodney king and kinda trickled down.

anyways, they say they train them to think long and hard before tazing someone.  unfortunately, they have about 1 second to make that decision, and both say what this guy did with that girl was by the book.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 13, 2009, 01:32:45 PM
some of my best friends i've known since birth are cops.  i don't know if you remember the whole "cops should go sensitivity training" shit from a while ago, i guess it started with rodney king and kinda trickled down.

anyways, they say they train them to think long and hard before tazing someone.  unfortunately, they have about 1 second to make that decision, and both say what this guy did with that #### was by the book.

I know, it's funny how all the people bashing say "he should have controlled her without doing that..."  Why?   I have zero sympathy for people who are acting like she was and then get what's coming to them.  What if the old hag had knocked the cop off balance and he fell into the road and was hit by a car?  Or if she went into the road and was hit by a car?  He would get blamed for it.  Sad frickin' world we live in.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: CalvinH on June 13, 2009, 01:37:54 PM
Cop shouda said "dance bitch" before he tazered her :D
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 13, 2009, 02:35:59 PM
Cop shouda said "dance bitch" before he tazered her :D

haha yes.  Or how about "Now we go to school!  Whoooooo!"
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Bix on June 13, 2009, 02:42:31 PM
some of my best friends i've known since birth are cops.  i don't know if you remember the whole "cops should go sensitivity training" shit from a while ago, i guess it started with rodney king and kinda trickled down.

anyways, they say they train them to think long and hard before tazing someone.  unfortunately, they have about 1 second to make that decision, and both say what this guy did with that #### was by the book.

Brainless book!
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: ManBearPig... on June 13, 2009, 02:50:25 PM
Brainless book!

what's your email address? i want to send you a virus.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Bix on June 13, 2009, 03:56:41 PM
what's your email address? i want to send you a virus.
Sure, pm me I'll give it to you.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: calfzilla on June 13, 2009, 08:01:35 PM
My only regret is that this old bag lived. 
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: elite_lifter on June 13, 2009, 08:03:09 PM
Well she wont speed again
Exactly the type of comment I would expect from as dimwitted felon.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on June 13, 2009, 08:27:26 PM
Maybe next time she won't act like such a fucking prick........

She's 72 and haven't learned yet... :-\
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: TechnoViking on June 13, 2009, 10:11:23 PM
He opened the door and ordered her out.

What a fool this cop is...All because she wouldn't sign a speeding ticket...In most states, you don't have to sign a ticket...They give it to you and you are on your way...Reason being is you never have to sign your name to anything that you don't want to...A cop is not the justice system...He had all her info...Who cares if she signed it or not...She never would have been able to get your car registered if she didn't either fight the ticket/or pay it...This cop created the problem...And any lawyer will expose him...
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on June 21, 2009, 05:40:01 PM
Is this how you defused the situation at your masters win when the judges had Rusty first, by getting out your tazer?
hahahhahahhha
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: G o a t b o y on June 21, 2009, 08:28:46 PM
I'm personally glad that Chick found himself a successful career in the bodybuilding industry, because if he hadn't he'd probably still be a cop, and the last thing we need out there is more cops with his meathead attitude.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 22, 2009, 04:06:37 PM
I'm personally glad that Chick found himself a successful career in the bodybuilding industry, because if he hadn't he'd probably still be a cop, and the last thing we need out there is more cops with his meathead attitude.
Damn great post Goat ;D we dont need more cops.
Title: Re: 72 Year old Woman Tasered by Police!
Post by: Bix on June 22, 2009, 05:16:04 PM
I'm personally glad that Chick found himself a successful career in the bodybuilding industry, because if he hadn't he'd probably still be a cop, and the last thing we need out there is more cops with his meathead attitude.

Goat is my hero!