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Title: Allah akbar?
Post by: Fury on June 21, 2009, 06:36:49 AM
Muslim governments in action.

Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: drkaje on June 21, 2009, 06:52:07 AM
Keep up the good work!!!

She probably appreciates your compassion. :)
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: Fury on June 21, 2009, 07:05:44 AM
Keep up the good work!!!

She probably appreciates your compassion. :)

Your obsession with me is kind of disturbing, fake doctor.  :-\



It's good that you're making light of this situation, though. My guess is that you side with Ahmayabbadaddadoo.
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: drkaje on June 21, 2009, 07:10:26 AM
Your obsession with me is kind of disturbing, fake doctor.  :-\



It's good that you're making light of this situation, though. My guess is that you side with Ahmayabbadaddadoo.


Your compassion for these poor souls can teach us a lot. Anyone else would exploit her death video to show how Islam represents a danger to the world but you really care. :)
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: SAMSON123 on June 21, 2009, 07:55:28 AM
Muslim governments in action.



This video screams PHONEY.... More american propoganda for sure. Sorta reminds me of that fake video of a teenage girl supposedly having a baby on the school playground.... I call this one BULLSHIT!!!!
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: Fury on June 21, 2009, 09:06:26 AM
This video screams PHONEY.... More american propoganda for sure. Sorta reminds me of that fake video of a teenage girl supposedly having a baby on the school playground.... I call this one BULLSHIT!!!!

This was uploaded by Iranians. Try again, Muslim shithead.


Your compassion for these poor souls can teach us a lot. Anyone else would exploit her death video to show how Islam represents a danger to the world but you really care. :)

I feel for these people. Here they are looking for democracy and getting their asses beat all over the place by your typical Muslim government. I'm sorry that you can't recognize that and are throwing your support behind autocratic religious regimes that have no problem with eradicating their own populace.

Can you stay out of my threads with this bullshit, haji?
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: drkaje on June 21, 2009, 09:17:09 AM
This was uploaded by Iranians. Try again, Muslim shithead.

I feel for these people. Here they are looking for democracy and getting their asses beat all over the place by your typical Muslim government. I'm sorry that you can't recognize that and are throwing your support behind autocratic religious regimes that have no problem with eradicating their own populace.

Can you stay out of my threads with this bullshit, haji?

They don't need democracy.
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: SAMSON123 on June 21, 2009, 09:18:23 AM
This was uploaded by Iranians. Try again, Muslim shithead.

You have no idea who uploaded these videos... But I guarantee the CIA created them

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I feel for these people. Here they are looking for democracy and getting their asses beat all over the place by your typical Muslim government. I'm sorry that you can't recognize that and are throwing your support behind autocratic religious regimes that have no problem with eradicating their own populace.

You almost made me choke on a FALAFALEL... YOU? are concerned for these people? HAHAHAHAAH...You better be concerned for your american asses which are being BEAT ALL OVER THE STREETS OF AMERICA FOR NOT GOING ALONG WITH THE NWO. BTW do you realize there is NO DEMOCRACY in america????

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Can you stay out of my threads with this bullshit, haji?

I prefer MAJI as Maji means WISE MEN/MAN... you of course know nothing of that
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: Fury on June 21, 2009, 09:19:16 AM
They don't need democracy.

Who the hell are you to tell them what they need and don't need? They look like they want democracy. I know you subscribe to wahhabism and the massive oppression of human rights that comes with it, but don't go sticking words in the mouths of the Iranian populace.
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: drkaje on June 21, 2009, 09:29:11 AM
Who the hell are you to tell them what they need and don't need? They look like they want democracy. I know you subscribe to wahhabism and the massive oppression of human rights that comes with it, but don't go sticking words in the mouths of the Iranian populace.

Who are we to judge or export our 'values' anyplace in the world?

It would be different if we actually practiced said values here at home or had a great record in the human rights department, LOL!
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: Fury on June 21, 2009, 09:31:02 AM
Who are we to judge or export our 'values' anyplace in the world?

It would be different if we actually practiced said values here at home or had a great record in the human rights department, LOL!


Pray tell, who is exporting anything? Obama and the USA are wisely sitting this one out. You're desperately grasping at straws as you try to justify an autocratic regime's oppression of their own people.

The millions of Iranians rioting in the streets only further prove that you don't know jack shit. Really shocking, fake doctor.  :D
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: drkaje on June 21, 2009, 09:39:13 AM
Pray tell, who is exporting anything? Obama and the USA are wisely sitting this one out. You're desperately grasping at straws as you try to justify an autocratic regime's oppression of their own people.

The millions of Iranians rioting in the streets only further prove that you don't know jack shit. Really shocking, fake doctor.  :D

"A learned blockhead is a greater blockhead than an ignorant one."
   -   Franklin, in Poor Richard’s Almanack, 1734
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: Fury on June 21, 2009, 09:40:59 AM
"A learned blockhead is a greater blockhead than an ignorant one."
   -   Franklin, in Poor Richard’s Almanack, 1734


So it's our fault that the Iranian people like what they see in regards to America? Oh man. This is hilarious.

You finally showing yourself as a supporter of autocratic, repressive regimes is funnier though, fake doctor. Hold your Koran high in the sky, fundamentalist nutjob!!!
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: drkaje on June 21, 2009, 09:41:57 AM
So it's our fault that the Iranian people like what they see in regards to America? Oh man. This is hilarious.

You finally showing yourself as a supporter of autocratic, repressive regimes is funnier though, fake doctor. Hold your Koran high in the sky, fundamentalist nutjob!!!

Blockhead. :)
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: Fury on June 21, 2009, 09:43:21 AM
Blockhead. :)

You're failing miserably here, fake doctor.

It's cool that you support the murder of a country's own populace by their government, though. All in the name of Allah, right?  :D
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: drkaje on June 21, 2009, 09:44:12 AM
You're failing miserably here, fake doctor.

It's cool that you support the murder of a country's own populace by their government, though. All in the name of Allah, right?  :D

We have the death penalty.
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: Fury on June 21, 2009, 09:46:45 AM
We have the death penalty.

The government unleashes paramilitary organizations to kill Americans when they protest an election? News to me!  :o
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: drkaje on June 21, 2009, 09:51:10 AM
The government unleashes paramilitary organizations to kill Americans when they protest an election? News to me!  :o

Would you even know?
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: Fury on June 21, 2009, 09:52:05 AM
Would you even know?

Can you prove it with video evidence like we're seeing from Iran?
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: drkaje on June 21, 2009, 09:54:33 AM
Can you prove it with video evidence like we're seeing from Iran?

The CIA isn't supposed to operate inside the US. You could just have an accident or something like that.

240 could probably give better ways in which they could kill ya. :)
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: Fury on June 21, 2009, 09:54:58 AM
The CIA isn't supposed to operate inside the US. You could just have an accident or something like that.

240 could probably give better ways in which they could kill ya. :)

So you're not going to show proof?
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: drkaje on June 21, 2009, 10:04:00 AM
So you're not going to show proof?

Anyone who had proof would be dead.

Not saying it's true, simply that it wouldn't surprise anyone.
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: Fury on June 21, 2009, 10:06:13 AM
Anyone who had proof would be dead.

Not saying it's true, simply that it wouldn't surprise anyone.

So what you're getting at is that your comments are nothing more than pure speculation?
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: drkaje on June 21, 2009, 10:10:03 AM
So what you're getting at is that your comments are nothing more than pure speculation?

People have 'accidents' all the time.
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: Fury on June 21, 2009, 10:11:30 AM
People have 'accidents' all the time.

No one is talking about accidents. I'm talking about hard proof of the government unleashing paramilitary forces on the US populace after the results of an election were contested. Can you provide it?
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: Fury on June 21, 2009, 07:17:19 PM
I see the fake doctor has yet to provide any of this proof.

More of the religion of peace at work in Iran.

Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: drkaje on June 21, 2009, 07:37:40 PM
What religion were these guys?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/97/Rk910303.jpg)
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: headhuntersix on June 21, 2009, 08:28:40 PM
I guess we're back to the big bad CIA now....they were inept under Bush, but now they're the devil right?
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: Fury on June 21, 2009, 08:46:39 PM
I guess we're back to the big bad CIA now....they were inept under Bush, but now they're the devil right?

Apparently they're mind controlling all these people in rioting. Special hypnosis probably!  ::)
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: gcb on June 21, 2009, 08:52:40 PM
I'm a left winger and personally think bringing down a repressionist regime is a good thing - I don't know why everyone has their knickers in a knot about the CIA - there is obviously some resentment towards the government in Iran.
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: Nordic Superman on June 22, 2009, 04:42:26 AM
I don't understand, drkaje, you are aware it is the young Iranian populace who desires democracy, no-one is forcing it upon them. Surely a doctor would perceive that as the logical reasoning?

And those cops, was that attack religiously motivated?

Also, don't quote me on this, but isn't the CIA the American version of the Mi6?

Mi6 being Britain's intelligence service dealing with international affairs and Mi5 which deals with domestic affairs. Isn't the FBI Americas version of Mi5?
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: drkaje on June 22, 2009, 09:39:32 AM
I don't understand, drkaje, you are aware it is the young Iranian populace who desires democracy, no-one is forcing it upon them. Surely a doctor would perceive that as the logical reasoning?

And those cops, was that attack religiously motivated?

Also, don't quote me on this, but isn't the CIA the American version of the Mi6?

Mi6 being Britain's intelligence service dealing with international affairs and Mi5 which deals with domestic affairs. Isn't the FBI Americas version of Mi5?

Democracy might not work well for people from strongly tribal cultures.
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on June 22, 2009, 09:46:46 AM
Muslim governments in action.



ANYONE that posts such crap online to further ANY ajenda is a piece of shit
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: dario73 on June 22, 2009, 10:11:59 AM
ANYONE that posts such crap online to further ANY ajenda is a piece of shit

AJENDA?? English, you stupid bastard, ENGLISH!!!!!
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: headhuntersix on June 22, 2009, 10:23:41 AM
I'm a left winger and personally think bringing down a repressionist regime is a good thing - I don't know why everyone has their knickers in a knot about the CIA - there is obviously some resentment towards the government in Iran.

Many Dem admins have worked to undermine our enemies with the CIA, its nothing new.
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: drkaje on June 22, 2009, 10:34:23 AM
Many Dem admins have worked to undermine our enemies with the CIA, its nothing new.

All PC bullshit aside: Do you honestly believe those people can handle democracy with their infrastructure and no economy?
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: headhuntersix on June 22, 2009, 10:39:57 AM
Ur completely right about some countries not being able to handle democracy. I think Iran, who has been very pro  western and modern in the past, could do it. I think they have to secularize themselves. None of this would be remotely easy. They have Oil....
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on June 22, 2009, 03:51:45 PM
AJENDA?? English, you stupid bastard, ENGLISH!!!!!

so i cant spell..this isn't news to getbiggers...

and to whine about  a wrongly spelled word on a site that offers spell check is idiotic... :-\

spelling falls under...meh...i know a few physics PHDs that r asian and cant spell worth shit  :-*
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: Fury on June 22, 2009, 04:51:26 PM
AJENDA?? English, you stupid bastard, ENGLISH!!!!!

Don't mind him. He's just another brain dead 32 year old Muslim who lives at home with his parents when he's not in rehab for drug and alcohol abuse.
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: IFBBwannaB on June 22, 2009, 10:46:19 PM
They don't need democracy.

I wish you had some credibility so I could state that you have just lost it but you have been such an idiot that we already established that.

I stand with free Iran, free from the ties of history's most violent religion, free from the chains of their dictatorship, free from all the Muslim bullshit that kept it down, Iranian are a smart people, too bad they let that shit of an idea that is called Islam to put them down!
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: drkaje on June 23, 2009, 05:58:19 AM
I wish you had some credibility so I could state that you have just lost it but you have been such an idiot that we already established that.

I stand with free Iran, free from the ties of history's most violent religion, free from the chains of their dictatorship, free from all the Muslim bullshit that kept it down, Iranian are a smart people, too bad they let that shit of an idea that is called Islam to put them down!

You're foolish to believe religion is the problem.
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: Nordic Superman on June 23, 2009, 06:22:23 AM
You're foolish to believe religion is the problem.

Are you really a Dr.? :-X

You're saying that it's not a religious issue/problem even though the very foundations and principles of the Iranian government are based on islamic sharia law and that in truth the country is run as a dictatorship under the guise of democracy with its supreme leader being a islamic cleric?

Yes religion plays no part in the equation. Ironically, I bet you think religion has played a huge part in USA's foreign policy over the last 10 years, but somehow in a religiously governed country it hasn't.
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: drkaje on June 23, 2009, 08:15:17 AM
Are you really a Dr.? :-X

You're saying that it's not a religious issue/problem even though the very foundations and principles of the Iranian government are based on islamic sharia law and that in truth the country is run as a dictatorship under the guise of democracy with its supreme leader being a islamic cleric?

Yes religion plays no part in the equation. Ironically, I bet you think religion has played a huge part in USA's foreign policy over the last 10 years, but somehow in a religiously governed country it hasn't.

Religion, itself, doesn't cause extremism.

IMO, the best that can be hoped for is a stable Iran. I'd argue that they probably can't handle democracy due to having had a tribal culture for too long. We really can't impose an American style democracy on other cultures just because it would be politically convenient.

Blaming Islam for this mess would be the same as saying Judaism caused the holocaust, pograms, etc...
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: Nordic Superman on June 23, 2009, 08:20:58 AM
Religion, itself, doesn't cause extremism.

IMO, the best that can be hoped for is a stable Iran. I'd argue that they probably can't handle democracy due to having had a tribal culture for too long. We really can't impose an American style democracy on other cultures just because it would be politically convenient.

Blaming Islam for this mess would be the same as saying Judaism caused the holocaust, pograms, etc...

Religion doesn't cause extremism? False. Religion which imposes itself on ones life and draws inspiration to and promotes violence is a key ideological reason why it has created so many deaths. Sure power and manipulation from other walks of life help, but to flat out deny religion as a cause of extremism is short sighted.

I'm not blaming islam for this mess, but it does bare some responsibility given that it's the GOVERNMENT STYLE used (sharia law) in Iran.

P.S. the "Judaism caused the holocaust"... no that's an idiotic comparison. To say that another ideology (Nazism) captured the hearts and minds of the German populace caused the holocaust would be more logical.
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: drkaje on June 23, 2009, 08:29:39 AM
Religion doesn't cause extremism? False. Religion which imposes itself on ones life and draws inspiration to and promotes violence is a key ideological reason why it has created so many deaths. Sure power and manipulation from other walks of life help, but to flat out deny religion as a cause of extremism is short sighted.

I'm not blaming islam for this mess, but it does bare some responsibility given that it's the GOVERNMENT STYLE used (sharia law) in Iran.

P.S. the "Judaism caused the holocaust"... no that's an idiotic comparison. To say that another ideology (Nazism) captured the hearts and minds of the German populace caused the holocaust would be more logical.

Religion, ideology and most other isms are of man's creation.

I just doubt many of those countries have the infrastructure, economy or cultures progressive enough to handle full democracy. True, religion is a huge part of their culture and one of the reasons they're so backwards but it's not the only reason things are so fucked up over there.
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: Nordic Superman on June 23, 2009, 08:44:42 AM
Religion, ideology and most other isms are of man's creation.

I just doubt many of those countries have the infrastructure, economy or cultures progressive enough to handle full democracy. True, religion is a huge part of their culture and one of the reasons they're so backwards but it's not the only reason things are so fucked up over there.

Democracy will lead to greater economic gain than any other government type. Their infrastructure will change with their government, it won't be an over night success just like it wasn't elsewhere or for any government style transition.

It's the Iranians that want democracy, not me, I couldn't care less. But I do pat them on the back and admit that I'm glad that's the road their young generation would like to follow.
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: drkaje on June 23, 2009, 10:06:03 AM
Democracy will lead to greater economic gain than any other government type. Their infrastructure will change with their government, it won't be an over night success just like it wasn't elsewhere or for any government style transition.

It's the Iranians that want democracy, not me, I couldn't care less. But I do pat them on the back and admit that I'm glad that's the road their young generation would like to follow.

What jobs are they supposed to do? Half of them are rock herders, FFS!!
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: IFBBwannaB on June 23, 2009, 11:42:12 AM
All PC bullshit aside: Do you honestly believe those people can handle democracy with their infrastructure and no economy?

I was going to ask if you're an idiot but that would be a waste of bandwidth.

Iran isn't some 3rd world country, they have an intelligent people and tons of oil, if they will have a democracy it will become a prosperous country.
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: drkaje on June 23, 2009, 12:15:02 PM
I was going to ask if you're an idiot but that would be a waste of bandwidth.

Iran isn't some 3rd world country, they have an intelligent people and tons of oil, if they will have a democracy it will become a prosperous country.


Midol makes a very good PMS product.

We're not talking about intelligence or them being a second/third world country. Simply that their culture is tribal by its very nature and democracy, as practiced here, may not be for them.
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: IFBBwannaB on June 23, 2009, 01:32:58 PM
Midol makes a very good PMS product.

We're not talking about intelligence or them being a second/third world country. Simply that their culture is tribal by its very nature and democracy, as practiced here, may not be for them.


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Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: drkaje on June 23, 2009, 02:15:02 PM
Do people believe our democracy happened overnight?
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: Nordic Superman on June 24, 2009, 01:43:17 AM
What jobs are they supposed to do? Half of them are rock herders, FFS!!

Is that really true?

If you knew anything about the Iranian government (which... lets face it... you don't) you'd realise everything is state controlled.

The current government style is THE bottleneck on development. Democracy and moderated capitalism would boost this countries economy like a rocket.
Title: Re: Allah akbar?
Post by: drkaje on June 24, 2009, 05:57:19 AM
Is that really true?

If you knew anything about the Iranian government (which... lets face it... you don't) you'd realise everything is state controlled.

The current government style is THE bottleneck on development. Democracy and moderated capitalism would boost this countries economy like a rocket.

Rock herders is an old joke I assumed everyone would get.