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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090629/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iraq
By KIM GAMEL and PATRICK QUINN, Associated Press Writers Kim Gamel And Patrick Quinn, Associated Press Writers – Mon Jun 29, 7:38 pm ET
BAGHDAD – Iraqi forces assumed formal control of Baghdad and other cities Tuesday after American troops handed over security in urban areas in a defining step toward ending the U.S. combat role in the country. A countdown clock broadcast on Iraqi TV ticked to zero as the midnight deadline passed for U.S. combat troops to finish their pullback to bases outside cities.
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Good news right there, now lets get all the way out of there.
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Good news right there, now lets get all the way out of there.
One of the motivations for us going in there in the first place was so we could have large Middle East bases to keep anyone from fucking with our oil supply. (We had that in Saudi after 1991, but our presence there was causing too many problems politically for the royal family with the Islam-nuts, so we took our show on the road). Why should we give that up? Sure, get out of the cities and populated areas and let them deal with their own internal messes, I'm all for that, but our rural and desert bases we should never give up.
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One of the motivations for us going in there in the first place was so we could have large Middle East bases to keep anyone from fucking with our oil supply. (We had that in Saudi after 1991, but our presence there was causing too many problems politically for the royal family with the Islam-nuts, so we took our show on the road). Why should we give that up? Sure, get out of the cities and populated areas and let them deal with their own internal messes, I'm all for that, but our rural and desert bases we should never give up.
no you mean to secure israel's securities interests, Obama knows this, that is why he is pulling out.
jt
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Great war. I hope all the dead Iraqi women and children, learned a good lesson. Awesome invasion, mass murder, and robbery.
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4 years too late. They need to kill one another for a good long while then we'll see.
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coming next: a-stan and iran.
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we're out of the cities with bases there forever.
is it morally right? Shit, no.
Does it serve american interests, and keep our quality of life high? yes. Without the bases there, someone else would move in on the oil and we'd see prices spike. So even if we feel the war was BS (which it was) we all benefit from our guys guarding that oil from our enemies getting and hoarding it.
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Israel let you guys fight their wars.
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So who's next?
Iran?
8)
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So who's next?
Iran?
8)
that would be the end of the world im afraid.
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that would be the end of the world im afraid.
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One of the motivations for us going in there in the first place was so we could have large Middle East bases to keep anyone from fucking with our oil supply. (We had that in Saudi after 1991, but our presence there was causing too many problems politically for the royal family with the Islam-nuts, so we took our show on the road). Why should we give that up? Sure, get out of the cities and populated areas and let them deal with their own internal messes, I'm all for that, but our rural and desert bases we should never give up.
so just because you are stronger you can build a base anywhere? is that what you are trying to say?
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=282_1246329921 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=282_1246329921)
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One of the motivations for us going in there in the first place was so we could have large Middle East bases to keep anyone from fucking with our oil supply. (We had that in Saudi after 1991, but our presence there was causing too many problems politically for the royal family with the Islam-nuts, so we took our show on the road). Why should we give that up? Sure, get out of the cities and populated areas and let them deal with their own internal messes, I'm all for that, but our rural and desert bases we should never give up.
My fear is being so close we are just a drop of a hat away from being right back in the cities again.
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so just because you are stronger you can build a base anywhere? is that what you are trying to say?
::)
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so just because you are stronger you can build a base anywhere? is that what you are trying to say?
if you were here, i'd slap that cum off your lips.
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if you were here, i'd slap that cum off your lips.
haha, Power Rod bringing the reality check to a tiny tit.
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Great war. I hope all the dead Iraqi women and children, learned a good lesson. Awesome invasion, mass murder, and robbery.
yeah
there was ABSOLUTELY no good that came out of it ::)
you should know better
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yeah
there was ABSOLUTELY no good that came out of it ::)
you should know better
And all those dead American kids who fought 'in the name of democracy?' Pretty hefty scale tipper. You going to tell us how it was all worth it Mike?
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And all those dead American kids who fought 'in the name of democracy?' Pretty hefty scale tipper. You going to tell us how it was all worth it Mike?
when you join the military
they don't just pay for school
teach you a trade
and let you see the world
sometimes
you get killed
you should respect those who gave their lives for us
instead of hiding in the comfortable esconces of the US
and whining like a daddy's whittle girl
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when you join the military
they don't just pay for school
teach you a trade
and let you see the world
sometimes
you get killed
you should respect those who gave their lives for us
instead of hiding in the comfortable esconces of the US
and whining like a daddy's whittle girl
You're just flailing wildly now.
You think the war is worth dead American kids or not? Simple question.
Edit: Are you Mike Dusa?
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You're just flailing wildly now.
You think the war is worth dead American kids or not? Simple question.
Simple answer
I don't like to see anyone die
I back my country
regardless of who sits in office
I live here
enjoy its benefits
and do not 'cherry-pick'
ever
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Simple answer
I don't like to see anyone die
I back my country
regardless of who sits in office
I live here
enjoy its benefits
and do not 'cherry-pick'
ever
Nothing is more American than questioning the decisions of those in charge. Blind obedience is for commies. You a commie, boy?
PS- Are you Mike Dusa?
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Nothing is more American than questioning the decisions of those in charge. Blind obedience is for commies. You a commie, boy?
PS- Are you Mike Dusa?
Yes, he is Moosejay. But importantly, what would this man say?
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Nothing is more American than questioning the decisions of those in charge. Blind obedience is for commies. You a commie, boy?
Actually
commie pinkos are the ones who rabble rouse
just ask archie bunker
PS- Are you Mike Dusa?
no
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Nothing is more American than questioning the decisions of those in charge. Blind obedience is for commies. You a commie, boy?
PS- Are you Mike Dusa?
:o
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Yes, he is Moosejay. But importantly, what would this man say?
I'm just having some fun with him. Starting to feel bad about trolling a guy who didn't 'get' All in the Family tho.
I don't know what that guy would say but 4:50 of 'knowWatI'mSayin' is more than I can handle.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090629/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iraq
By KIM GAMEL and PATRICK QUINN, Associated Press Writers Kim Gamel And Patrick Quinn, Associated Press Writers – Mon Jun 29, 7:38 pm ET
BAGHDAD – Iraqi forces assumed formal control of Baghdad and other cities Tuesday after American troops handed over security in urban areas in a defining step toward ending the U.S. combat role in the country. A countdown clock broadcast on Iraqi TV ticked to zero as the midnight deadline passed for U.S. combat troops to finish their pullback to bases outside cities.
a clock to countdown for when these pre-historics throw themselves back to worse than pre-Saddam
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(http://i40.tinypic.com/15efdja.jpg)
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My fear is being so close we are just a drop of a hat away from being right back in the cities again.
From what I've seen, that's the way it is out here. Iraqi Forces have had control over the majority of cities in Iraq for a while. The US Troops/Coalition forces pretty much conduct patrols around surrounding areas, continue training the Iraqis(military wise), and if there is an uprising, make sure it doesn't get too far out of hand. For example, we had a sniper from a close city, fire multiple rounds at personnel at our base, and actually struck a serviceman. Due to the shift of power "legally" we couldnt enter that city to find the shooter. We would have had to obtain permission from the Iraqi Forces chain of command to do so. ::)
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a clock to countdown for when these pre-historics throw themselves back to worse than pre-Saddam
That might take some time to happen. You hear all the stories about car bombs going off all the time and and whatnot. But believe it or not, there are more "modernized" areas than what the media depicts. Lots of residents grow their "weed", moderately drink, and actually have night clubs too. 8)
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That might take some time to happen. You hear all the stories about car bombs going off all the time and and whatnot. But believe it or not, there are more "modernized" areas than what the media depicts. Lots of residents grow their "weed", moderately drink, and actually have night clubs too. 8)
but
would the Obamamedia not want us to know this???
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(http://i43.tinypic.com/2z6f3bl.jpg)
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(http://i43.tinypic.com/2z6f3bl.jpg)
are there not any white girls with asses like that?
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but
would the Obamamedia not want us to know this???
I hate to pull a "True Adonis" but stuff like this, is what I've been reading while out here...
Army bans embedded Stripes reporter in Mosul
By William H. McMichael - Staff writer
Posted : Wednesday Jun 24, 2009 21:22:33 EDT
The Army has barred a reporter for the Stars and Stripes newspaper from covering an Iraqi-based unit operating in the still-violent Mosul region because he “refused to highlight” positive news during an earlier visit, the independent newspaper reported Tuesday. The commander of the 1st Cavalry Division’s 3rd Heavy Brigade Combat Team, Col. Gary Volesky, also complained that reporter Heath Druzin “would not answer questions about stories he was writing.”
Now of course that's not the report in its entirety, but it gives you some idea of what's going on. Unfortunately, "dark news" gets more attention than positive in this day and age. It's a lot more easier for a journalist to report on, let's say a car bomb because you can receive info on who was involved, when did it happen, how many casualties etc... But if xxxx Brigade takes out a insurgent strong hold, a journalist will not get the answers they're looking for to produce a full report. Mainly in hopes keeping certain tactics low key.
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I hate to pull a "True Adonis" but stuff like this, is what I've been reading while out here...
Now of course that's not the report in its entirety, but it gives you some idea of what's going on. Unfortunately, "dark news" gets more attention than positive in this day and age. It's a lot more easier for a journalist to report on, let's say a car bomb because you can receive info on who was involved, when did it happen, how many casualties etc... But if xxxx Brigade takes out a insurgent strong hold, a journalist will not get the answers they're looking for to produce a full report. Mainly in hopes keeping certain tactics low key.
well
the reporter, druzin, of the liberal media, should have his balls cut off
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How generous of the U. S.
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well
the reporter, druzin, of the liberal media, should have his balls cut off
I dig your style. 8)
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How generous of the U. S.
::) If you want to go that route, then your country host bank accounts to tens of thousands of tax evading personnel world wide. :D
But seriously, you can't pass judgement on an entire country from the acts of a couple dozen dumbf*cks. Yes those individuals committing those acts were COMPLETELY wrong for their actions. Yes they should be punished to the fullest extent of the UCMJ. But let's not categorize a whole country for their acts.
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I dig your style. 8)
You serve us in a noble way, TS.
You are the only one worth your salt here, for the most part
Were I young, I'd be there with you
Unlike the yellow dems plaguing this board
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::) If you want to go that route, then your country host bank accounts to tens of thousands of tax evading personnel world wide. :D
But seriously, you can't pass judgement on an entire country from the acts of a couple dozen dumbf*cks. Yes those individuals committing those acts were COMPLETELY wrong for their actions. Yes they should be punished to the fullest extent of the UCMJ. But let's not categorize a whole country for their acts.
Right you are! Even though we prefer to call this being "NEUTRAL".
Every country has some skeletons in the closet - for sure. 8) :P
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I dig your style. 8)
yeah
TS
notice how they don't want to touch this one here
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How generous of the U. S.
did she sever his head from his neck on TV after this?
just curious...... ???
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unbelievable how you can treat people like that.
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unbelievable how you can treat people like that.
agreed
she was behaving just like much of the uncivilized world does to the US and lesser, weaker nations
she was just an exception, however
much more is expected of us, and it should be
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You serve us in a noble way, TS.
You are the only one worth your salt here, for the most part
Were I young, I'd be there with you
Unlike the yellow dems plaguing this board
Thanks man I appreciate the love. I'm still fairly new to politics so I really cant make bold statements on the different parties yet. Studying the political board occasionally ;)
Right you are! Even though we prefer to call this being "NEUTRAL".
Every country has some skeletons in the closet - for sure. 8) :P
I hear you loud and clear...
did she sever his head from his neck on TV after this?
just curious...... ???
I am not agreeing that she was right, but this guy has a rope wrapped around his neck, but when the tables are turned, the extremist tend to wrap sharp steel around ours. I'm just saying...
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Right you are! Even though we prefer to call this being "NEUTRAL".
Every country has some skeletons in the closet - for sure. 8) :P
NEUTRAL=cowards
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Thanks man I appreciate the love. I'm still fairly new to politics so I really cant make bold statements on the different parties yet. Studying the political board occasionally ;)I hear you loud and clear...
I am not agreeing that she was right, but this guy has a rope wrapped around his neck, but when the tables are turned, the extremist tend to wrap sharp steel around ours. I'm just saying...
TS...the libs in amreica are against you and hate you
they negate everything you and our brave heroes do over 'there'
speak away, friend
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How generous of the U. S.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=287967.0;attach=328008;image)
It's just a muslim terrorist.... who cares?
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so just because you are stronger you can build a base anywhere? is that what you are trying to say?
I'm saying this: oil supplies, enough to meet our demand, are critical to our way of life and standard of living. I don't know where you're from, but I'll assume you're not American. We understand that we live significantly better than the teeming masses of humanity in the second and third worlds, and we will do anything to protect that, unapologetically. In order to preserve our oil supplies, we need bases in the middle east, and need to keep potential rivals out, especially as oil becomes more scarce, as it will in the coming decades (although a disruption even in today's status quo will cause serious issues).
While we will not go out of our way to be cruel or to kill or harm unnecessarily, we will do what we have to maintain our way of life. That's no different than what great civilizations have done throughout the ages. Oh, wait... it is different.... at least we give a fuck about trying to minimize harm as much as possible in the pursuit of our goals.... former empires didn't give a shit.
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no you mean to secure israel's securities interests, Obama knows this, that is why he is pulling out.
jt
Israel may be a side benefit, but protection of the oil was the primary motivation, don't kid yourself. Israel is important to a small (but vocal and active) political interest group, but not to most Americans. Oil, on the other hand, affects us all.
Most Americans don't give a shit about Israel.
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I'm saying this: oil supplies, enough to meet our demand, are critical to our way of life and standard of living. I don't know where you're from, but I'll assume you're not American. We understand that we live significantly better than the teeming masses of humanity in the second and third worlds, and we will do anything to protect that, unapologetically. In order to preserve our oil supplies, we need bases in the middle east, and need to keep potential rivals out, especially as oil becomes more scarce, as it will in the coming decades (although a disruption even in today's status quo will cause serious issues).
While we will not go out of our way to be cruel or to kill or harm unnecessarily, we will do what we have to maintain our way of life. That's no different than what great civilizations have done throughout the ages. Oh, wait... it is different.... at least we give a fuck about trying to minimize harm as much as possible in the pursuit of our goals.... former empires didn't give a shit.
well at least ya come out and say it and dont fall for the " we r helping" them bullshit
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I'm saying this: oil supplies, enough to meet our demand, are critical to our way of life and standard of living. I don't know where you're from, but I'll assume you're not American. We understand that we live significantly better than the teeming masses of humanity in the second and third worlds, and we will do anything to protect that, unapologetically. In order to preserve our oil supplies, we need bases in the middle east, and need to keep potential rivals out, especially as oil becomes more scarce, as it will in the coming decades (although a disruption even in today's status quo will cause serious issues).
While we will not go out of our way to be cruel or to kill or harm unnecessarily, we will do what we have to maintain our way of life. That's no different than what great civilizations have done throughout the ages. Oh, wait... it is different.... at least we give a fuck about trying to minimize harm as much as possible in the pursuit of our goals.... former empires didn't give a shit.
Brutal honesty.
I used to be all about "WMD was a lie, blah blah". But at this point, everyone with a brain knows it. Same empire shit has gone on forever. Only now, we have people with blogs and youtube to unravel the obvious lies.
I don't think any of those war protesters on the street would give up their Prius to live in a mud hut if it meant the wars would end. That makes them just as hypocritical as the dumbasses claiming we're only in Iraq to help their people.