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I quit drinking these a long time ago, because they were so full of sugar. During the periods when I've trained, I've only used zero-carb or low-carb options.
What do some of you guys doing full meal replacements use? A ready-made blend? Or protein mixed with something else you can take along with you easily?
I'm all ears.
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I don't drink "meal replacements" per se, but I started using the Optimum Nutrition Oats and Whey along with a scoop of regular protein and it tastes great without the sugar.
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3 scoops of whey, huge scoop of normal oats, handfull of frozen fruit and one bannana............. blend......... cant get beter than that
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3 scoops of whey, huge scoop of normal oats, handfull of frozen fruit and one bannana............. blend......... cant get beter than that
I add tbsp of natural peanut butter to the above. Helps thicken/smooth it out.
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i used to do that or whatever oil i was using at the time..... havnt botherd lately
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Dorian Yates makes a good one with low gi carbs
http://www.dorianyates.eu/product-view.asp?Product=GA11&action=summary
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I quit drinking these a long time ago, because they were so full of sugar. During the periods when I've trained, I've only used zero-carb or low-carb options.
What do some of you guys doing full meal replacements use? A ready-made blend? Or protein mixed with something else you can take along with you easily?
I'm all ears.
You had periods???
But in all seriousness Dorian Yates stuff is great
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3 scoops of whey, huge scoop of normal oats, handfull of frozen fruit and one bannana............. blend......... cant get beter than that
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MRP's are an okay purchase for convenience but it's so much more economical and practical to make your own. ProLab makes a good MRP in Lean Mass Matrix and of course MetRx.
I like 2-3 scoops of whey, a little natural peanutbutter and some plain oats. Maybe a packet of Splenda, maybe a few blueberries or a bananna and you got an excellent MRP.
MRP's are just protein supplements with a little extra carbs and fats.
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MRP's are an okay purchase for convenience but it's so much more economical and practical to make your own. ProLab makes a good MRP in Lean Mass Matrix and of course MetRx.
I like 2-3 scoops of whey, a little natural peanutbutter and some plain oats. Maybe a packet of Splenda, maybe a few blueberries or a bananna and you got an excellent MRP.
MRP's are just protein supplements with a little extra carbs and fats.
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do you cook that oatmeal first, or do you just throw them in there dry.???...........i find when even when i blend them, all the oats sink to the bottom, and they are still hard to get down
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Honestly I just throw them in there. I keep swirling and swirling the mix around my shaker cup to keep it afloat.
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if you blend them with plain water that will happen,,,,,,,,, if you blend with the frozen fruit, the bannana & peanut butter,,, its a nice thick mixture, dont add loads of water either, i like it almost yoghurt thick
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AAHAHAHAH!!! Got some hardcore bb types in this thread.
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thanks guys good shit.........MRPs are a good idea, but its so much more economical, tasteful, and nutritios to do it yourself...........wheth er you are bulking or dieting you can fuck with the carb/fat/protein ratios........throw an additional scoop of protein, add less oats, maybe throw in a tablespoon of flax
like optimum has that new oats and whey, its all expensive........i mean how hard is it to just throw a scoop of oats in your whey
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AHAHAHAHAHA!!! "Each morning I blend egg yolks, whey, oats, diet Dr. Pepper, a banana, a hot dog bun, mongolian beef......"
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AHAHAHAHAHA!!! "Each morning I blend egg yolks, whey, oats, diet Dr. Pepper, a banana, a hot dog bun, mongolian beef......"
lol......one of the latter arnold movies.......i think it was 'end of days'...........arnold wakes up with a hangover.........and throws a half-eaten slice of pizza, some pepto bismol, a few whole eggs, and a half-drunk can of warm skunk beer in a blender and slams it down for for breakfast...........now that is hardcore, a lesser man would retch with merely a whiff of something like that :) :) :)
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lol......one of the latter arnold movies.......i think it was 'end of days'...........arnold wakes up with a hangover.........and throws a half-eaten slice of pizza, some pepto bismol, a few whole eggs, and a half-drunk can of warm skunk beer in a blender and slams it down for for breakfast...........now that is hardcore, a lesser man would retch with merely a whiff of something like that :) :) :)
Exactly, it's End of Days...saw that a couple of weeks ago. He also adds old chinese food and something else......pure bb.
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You guys fucking rule. Thanks, GetBig!
In wannabe semi-hardcore mode, I'm heading to the lab now and have my whey and oats ready to eat as soon as I walk out, cuz I am f'n STARVING after this goddamn fast. lol I'll take 2-3 fish oil caps, too.
Oh, and I get a donut, too. ;)
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IMO you make it way too complicated, just eat under your maintenance and get enough protein, you will be ripped. 100% guaranteed.
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IMO you make it way too complicated, just eat under your maintenance and get enough protein, you will be ripped. 100% guaranteed.
It's complicated, because I haven't studied this stuff since the early- to mid-90s when life was all about supplements.
Because of my work and lifestyle, there are days when I absolutely have to be able to eat a quick, convenient meal or two. As for all the other questions, I don't mind admitting my ignorance. Sure, I know a lot more than the average twink in my gym, but GetBig knows a hell of a lot more than I do and that knowledge is invaluable to someone like me who let himself go for a number of years and is not getting back into shape.
Yes, the basics - lift heavy, eat right, sleep - are still the same, but I'm not averse to trying to find an edge where I can.
Plus, nothing beats the motivation I get from you guys. :D
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Nothing tastes better than Musclemilk IMO. Be nice if they could put that taste into a MRP. I guess Labrada Lean Body is the best...
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depends on what yoru current goal is tre...also how much you weigh, and what else youve eaten during the day..9maybe even when yoru workout is in acordane with your shake intake?)
but heres some general ideas
bulking =
20 grams whey
50 grams casein
75 grams maltodextrin/dextrose/whatever kid of glucose carb you want
some kind of veggie powder or some kind of fruit
multivitamin powder or pill
+ add some flavor (maybe add some extra carbs if your not gainig and if your still not gaining then throw in a few egg yolks too)
dieting =
50 grams casein
50 grams carbs
veggie powder or veggie pill
multivitamin powder or pill
break open a few fish oil and pour em in
+ some kind of calorie free flavor... crystal light or something..
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depends on what yoru current goal is tre...also how much you weigh, and what else youve eaten during the day..9maybe even when yoru workout is in acordane with your shake intake?)
but heres some general ideas
bulking =
20 grams whey
50 grams casein
75 grams maltodextrin/dextrose/whatever kid of glucose carb you want
some kind of veggie powder or some kind of fruit
multivitamin powder or pill
+ add some flavor (maybe add some extra carbs if your not gainig and if your still not gaining then throw in a few egg yolks too)
dieting =
50 grams casein
50 grams carbs
veggie powder or veggie pill
multivitamin powder or pill
break open a few fish oil and pour em in
+ some kind of calorie free flavor... crystal light or something..
A little overkill, don't you think?
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A little overkill, don't you think?
which part ? i put every part with a reason in mind
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A little overkill, don't you think?
Well, to be fair, he left out the deep colon massage from the recipe.
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which part ? i put every part with a reason in mind
I am sure you did. I was think of a meal replacement more as an addition to at least 3 whole food meals as opposed to replacing one of those meals.
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I am sure you did. I was think of a meal replacement more as an addition to at least 3 whole food meals as opposed to replacing one of those meals.
Exactly. In addition to 3-4 whole food meals. If you eat every 2-3 hours then 1 or 2 of them can be a MRP. The sequence can also be flipped...say a MRP for breakfast and then a whole solid for your next two meals etc...
The newbs and the lazy attempt to live off of them as they don't understand the concept behind them.
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Labrada "Lean Body" gets my vote ... although if u make ur own it is more cost efficient
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Exactly. In addition to 3-4 whole food meals. If you eat every 2-3 hours then 1 or 2 of them can be a MRP. The sequence can also be flipped...say a MRP for breakfast and then a whole solid for your next two meals etc...
The newbs and the lazy attempt to live off of them as they don't understand the concept behind them.
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With that in mind, I was thinking that tbomz recipes were to busy. Why not oats and protein? The rest of your nutrients should be coming from your whole meals.
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i wrote those as enitre meal replacemtns... say for somebody who has to be at work or is in a asituation where they cant eat regular food... those shakes would cover every base and area that needs to be covered..and it would do it just as well (probably better in fact) than any "whoel food" meal...
theres nothing wrong with relying on shakes... for big guys who dont have a big appetite and are trying to grow... shakes are very convenient ad without them those guys couldnt make prgress because they wouldnt be able to get in enough to grow...
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Exactly. In addition to 3-4 whole food meals. If you eat every 2-3 hours then 1 or 2 of them can be a MRP. The sequence can also be flipped...say a MRP for breakfast and then a whole solid for your next two meals etc...
The newbs and the lazy attempt to live off of them as they don't understand the concept behind them.
Truth. Back in the day, I thought two meals a day, plus a bunch of sugar-shakes were the secret to life. Now, I was training like crazy then, so I was in great shape and grew a little, but I never got big.
Now, I'm doing 3-4 whole food meals per day, every day, and I'm getting my body back to where it needs to be. I don't wanna be *huge*, but it would be interesting to see what I'd look like at a jacked 220.
I'm between 208-215 now and growing slowly. I'll probably go to about 235-240 and then start trimming. It's been a great ride, so far, that's for sure.
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I quit drinking these a long time ago, because they were so full of sugar. During the periods when I've trained, I've only used zero-carb or low-carb options.
What do some of you guys doing full meal replacements use? A ready-made blend? Or protein mixed with something else you can take along with you easily?
I'm all ears.
75 grams isolate.
30 grams carb from gatorade powder
too many guys take in too many carbs to replenish glycogen post training.
smaller amounts of carbs, administered only 2 or 3 times post training is the way to go.
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AHAHAHAHAHA!!! "Each morning I blend egg yolks, whey, oats, diet Dr. Pepper, a banana, a hot dog bun, mongolian beef......"
:D
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X-2.
MRP's are an okay purchase for convenience but it's so much more economical and practical to make your own. ProLab makes a good MRP in Lean Mass Matrix and of course MetRx.
I like 2-3 scoops of whey, a little natural peanutbutter and some plain oats. Maybe a packet of Splenda, maybe a few blueberries or a bananna and you got an excellent MRP.
MRP's are just protein supplements with a little extra carbs and fats.
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That's what I do too. Usually have 2 shakes like that a day.
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75 grams isolate.
30 grams carb from gatorade powder
too many guys take in too many carbs to replenish glycogen post training.
smaller amounts of carbs, administered only 2 or 3 times post training is the way to go.
i know your a seasoned vet and from what you say you have a good build, probably better than mine.
with that being said...
i have to respectfully disagree..
75 grams isolate isnt too much.. buts its more than whats necessary for optimal growth... and 30 grams of carbs from gatorade is only 15 grams of glucoe... ony 15 grams of glycogen replenishing, insulin raising, cortisol suppressing, t3 regulating, leptin sti9mulating, anti catabolic, pro-anabolic, protein sparing grams of glucose. then you have another 15 grams of fructose...which only goes tol iver glycogen... and thats a good amoutn of fructose postwworkout..not too much to overfill the liver and cause it to go t trygliceride synthesis...and replenishing liver glycogen is great = signals the body that your in a "fed" sate... most catabolism is signaled from the liver and giving it some carbs halts all liver directed catabolism.. however most important pre workout... or any time of the day... is to get muscle glycogen stuffed full, and getting your isulin....
i think youd be better with 30-50 gram isolate and 75-100grams glucose
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i know your a seasoned vet and from what you say you have a good build, probably better than mine.
with that being said...
i have to respectfully disagree..
75 grams isolate isnt too much.. buts its more than whats necessary for optimal growth... and 30 grams of carbs from gatorade is only 15 grams of glucoe... ony 15 grams of glycogen replenishing, insulin raising, cortisol suppressing, t3 regulating, leptin sti9mulating, anti catabolic, pro-anabolic, protein sparing grams of glucose. then you have another 15 grams of fructose...which only goes tol iver glycogen... and thats a good amoutn of fructose postwworkout..not too much to overfill the liver and cause it to go t trygliceride synthesis...and replenishing liver glycogen is great = signals the body that your in a "fed" sate... most catabolism is signaled from the liver and giving it some carbs halts all liver directed catabolism.. however most important pre workout... or any time of the day... is to get muscle glycogen stuffed full, and getting your isulin....
i think youd be better with 30-50 gram isolate and 75-100grams glucose
He said gatorade powder. The powder is dextrose, and the already made bottled stuff is fructose... not sure why they do that but you can look at the labels and they're different.
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I always make large batches of oatmeal which is a combination of oat groats, steel cut and rolled (great texture) and keep small portions in the freezer. A great MRP is vanilla protein powder (ON), frozen strawberries, peanut butter, Splenda, and the frozen cooked oatmeal. Add just enough water to make it the desired consistency and blend. YUMMMM
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I quit drinking these a long time ago, because they were so full of sugar. During the periods when I've trained, I've only used zero-carb or low-carb options.
What do some of you guys doing full meal replacements use? A ready-made blend? Or protein mixed with something else you can take along with you easily?
I'm all ears.
Before I started dieting and became a shell of my former self :-X, I drank a gallon of 1% milk per day. Milk is the perfect food: carbs, fat, and protein galore in every serving. Sure, the carbs are lactose, but that's a low glycemic sugar, and it's not oatmeal (=not an optimal carb), but it'll still help you in your lifting goals--big time, if you do it right. Save your money and go with milk.
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3 scoops of whey, huge scoop of normal oats, handfull of frozen fruit and one bannana............. blend......... cant get beter than that
Maybe add some natural peanut butter or olive oil, but other than that...
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A little overkill, don't you think?
lol, just a little..... ;D ;D
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He said gatorade powder. The powder is dextrose, and the already made bottled stuff is fructose... not sure why they do that but you can look at the labels and they're different.
ive never seen any gatorade powder thats just dextrose. every one ive seeen in high fructose corn syrup and sucrose.
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I quit drinking these a long time ago, because they were so full of sugar. During the periods when I've trained, I've only used zero-carb or low-carb options.
What do some of you guys doing full meal replacements use? A ready-made blend? Or protein mixed with something else you can take along with you easily?
I'm all ears.
Angry black man right there (with big cock)...
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Tre:
I put 2 1/2 scoops of True Protein soup broths, http://www.trueprotein.com/Product_Details.aspx?cid=22&pid=6904 (~65g protein),
16oz of water, add 1 cup of cooked rice and blend it to oblivion.
My lunch everyday for the past 2 weeks.
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why dont you buy a carton of egg whites, some oats and fruits. blend them, and drink.
You dont have to be fucking Einstein to figure how to make a quick and complete nutricious shake.
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why dont you buy a carton of egg whites, some oats and fruits. blend them, and drink.
You dont have to be fucking Einstein to figure how to make a quick and complete nutricious shake.
No but suggestions are allways welcome... I used to make those too...
Re oats, grind them using a coffee grinder first; mixes pretty well...
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Re oats, grind them using a coffee grinder first; mixes pretty well...
thanks gh15...
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No but suggestions are allways welcome... I used to make those too...
Re oats, grind them using a coffee grinder first; mixes pretty well...
I do this all the time, pasteurized egg whites have the flavour like skim milk, so its not a problem for me...
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I use CNP Pro-M.R chocolate malt for an MRP and Beverly Muscle Provider for post workout.
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I use CNP Pro-M.R chocolate malt for an MRP and Beverly Muscle Provider for post workout.
thats an AWESOME product. tpo quality guaranteed...
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I use CNP Pro-M.R chocolate malt for an MRP and Beverly Muscle Provider for post workout.
thought we where talking meal replacement here. not pre or postworkout..
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thought we where talking meal replacement here. not pre or postworkout..
I use CNP Pro-M.R chocolate malt for an MRP and Beverly Muscle Provider for post workout.
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Thanks to all you guys for some great suggestions.
We picked up a blender the other day and I've gone crazy with a number of Treations. At home, egg whites, oats, blueberries, and some natural peanut butter makes a naturally sweet-tasting meal that's very filling.
On the road, I'm going with whey-and-oats, with a couple of EFA caps.
I definitely prefer the homemade stuff to the pre-packaged products.