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Title: I cannot get past a 225 bench press. Help!
Post by: nodeal on July 08, 2009, 11:43:57 PM
I cannot get past a 225 bench press. I will get stronger at every other exercise (including dumbbell presses!) but my barbell bench will remain at 225 for 4 or 5 reps.

I will achieve impressive lifts (deadlift 405 for a few reps, squat 365 for moderate, shoulder press 80 pound dumbbells for 5 or 6 reps, barbell row 245 for 12-15 reps, dumbbell row the 125 for 14 reps), but my barbell bench will not BUDGE!
 
I know benching isn't everything but god damn it the first question I'm always asked.."How much do you bench, bro?" and then I say 225 and I get "Oh really? That's it?"

I've asked questions about benching here before and implicated the advice I got into my workouts but, fuck, NOTHING WORKS!.

Shit.

Is it genetic? Was I made in such a way that I will never dominate 225 pounds on the barbell bench press ever? Am I doomed to be forever embarrassed under the poundage of 225?

Perhaps I will look for the answer elsewhere...a place that exceeds the knowledge I can obtain from getbig. This place I call my DREAM JOURNAL. I will jot down several more entries the next few nights and try to connect the dots. I will see where my dreams take me and what information they provide. Maybe they will reveal the secret to dominating the bench press!
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 08, 2009, 11:50:56 PM
I cannot get past a 225 bench press. I will get stronger at every other exercise (including dumbbell presses!) but my barbell bench will remain at 225 for 4 or 5 reps.

I will achieve impressive lifts (deadlift 405 for a few reps, squat 365 for moderate, shoulder press 80 pound dumbbells for 5 or 6 reps, barbell row 245 for 12-15 reps, dumbbell row the 125 for 14 reps), but my barbell bench will not BUDGE!
 
I know benching isn't everything but god damn it the first question I'm always asked.."How much do you bench, bro?" and then I say 225 and I get "Oh really? That's it?"

I've asked questions about benching here before and implicated the advice I got into my workouts but, fuck, NOTHING WORKS!.

Shit.

Is it genetic? Was I made in such a way that I will never dominate 225 pounds on the barbell bench press ever? Am I doomed to be forever embarrassed under the poundage of 225?

Perhaps I will look for the answer elsewhere...a place that exceeds the knowledge I can obtain from getbig. This place I call my DREAM JOURNAL. I will jot down several more entries the next few nights and try to connect the dots. I will see where my dreams take me and what information they provide. Maybe they will reveal the secret to dominating the bench press!

Do nothing but close grip decline and wide grip incline for a month and then go back to it. you will be surprised

But to answer your title question......yes, you are doomed to be a tiny tit the rest of your life
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Alex23 on July 08, 2009, 11:53:18 PM
Do nothing but close grip decline and wide grip incline for a month and then go back to it. you will be surprised

Shit you beat me to it.... ;D

Most people think "I can't bench so must've weak pecs". Au contraire; most of the time the triceps isn't there nor is the front delt to support the movement.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: gordiano on July 09, 2009, 12:01:23 AM
Shit you beat me to it.... ;D

Most people think "I can't bench so must've weak pecs". Au contraire; most of the time the triceps isn't there nor is the front delt to support to movement.

Another gem......
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: nodeal on July 09, 2009, 12:06:41 AM
Shit you beat me to it.... ;D

Most people think "I can't bench so must've weak pecs". Au contraire; most of the time the triceps isn't there nor is the front delt to support to movement.

Funny you say this I was just saying how I'm going to focus on triceps to help my bench.

Do nothing but close grip decline and wide grip incline for a month and then go back to it. you will be surprised

But to answer your title question......yes, you are doomed to be a tiny tit the rest of your life

Alright I will do close grip decline...never tried them before.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Method101 on July 09, 2009, 12:13:52 AM
where do you place your grip?

my pinky finger is 2 inches IN from the rings, i use closer grip like levrone even for regular bench pressing, less chance to tear pec.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 09, 2009, 12:25:08 AM
where do you place your grip?

my pinky finger is 2 inches IN from the rings, i use closer grip like levrone even for regular bench pressing, less chance to tear pec.

when I do close grips I touch my thumbs in the center of the bar, then move my hands out till there's about three inches between the thumbs.

 I used to be "hardcore" and do them thumbs touching, but all that did was hurt my wrists
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: nodeal on July 09, 2009, 01:10:06 AM
where do you place your grip?

my pinky finger is 2 inches IN from the rings, i use closer grip like levrone even for regular bench pressing, less chance to tear pec.

I put my index fingers on the rings. I have long arms.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: hangclean on July 09, 2009, 01:13:32 AM
There is no way that you can do barbell rows with 245 for 12 to 14 reps and not be able to bench 225 for 1.  Totally impossible, unless your barbell row form is totally fucked (which it probably is.)
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: nzmusclemonster on July 09, 2009, 01:16:12 AM
Increasing my standing military press was the key to increasing my bench.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: wavelength on July 09, 2009, 01:17:39 AM
I cannot get past a 225 bench press. I will get stronger at every other exercise (including dumbbell presses!) but my barbell bench will remain at 225 for 4 or 5 reps.

I will achieve impressive lifts (deadlift 405 for a few reps, squat 365 for moderate, shoulder press 80 pound dumbbells for 5 or 6 reps, barbell row 245 for 12-15 reps, dumbbell row the 125 for 14 reps), but my barbell bench will not BUDGE!
 
I know benching isn't everything but god damn it the first question I'm always asked.."How much do you bench, bro?" and then I say 225 and I get "Oh really? That's it?"

I've asked questions about benching here before and implicated the advice I got into my workouts but, fuck, NOTHING WORKS!.

Shit.

Is it genetic? Was I made in such a way that I will never dominate 225 pounds on the barbell bench press ever? Am I doomed to be forever embarrassed under the poundage of 225?

Perhaps I will look for the answer elsewhere...a place that exceeds the knowledge I can obtain from getbig. This place I call my DREAM JOURNAL. I will jot down several more entries the next few nights and try to connect the dots. I will see where my dreams take me and what information they provide. Maybe they will reveal the secret to dominating the bench press!

I was the same until I tried a couple of HST cycles which got my bench up to 264 in a short period of time.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 09, 2009, 01:18:57 AM
Increasing my standing military press was the key to increasing my bench.

Yep  because you strengthened your front delts ( and tris to a degree) from the militaries. I haven't done standing in forever, think i'll give them a whirl next time
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Method101 on July 09, 2009, 01:23:33 AM
I put my index fingers on the rings. I have long arms.
so do i, im 6ft.2

your grip is too wide.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Pecs on July 09, 2009, 01:27:54 AM
I cannot get past a 225 bench press. I will get stronger at every other exercise (including dumbbell presses!) but my barbell bench will remain at 225 for 4 or 5 reps.

I will achieve impressive lifts (deadlift 405 for a few reps, squat 365 for moderate, shoulder press 80 pound dumbbells for 5 or 6 reps, barbell row 245 for 12-15 reps, dumbbell row the 125 for 14 reps), but my barbell bench will not BUDGE!
 
I know benching isn't everything but god damn it the first question I'm always asked.."How much do you bench, bro?" and then I say 225 and I get "Oh really? That's it?"

I've asked questions about benching here before and implicated the advice I got into my workouts but, fuck, NOTHING WORKS!.

Shit.

Is it genetic? Was I made in such a way that I will never dominate 225 pounds on the barbell bench press ever? Am I doomed to be forever embarrassed under the poundage of 225?

Perhaps I will look for the answer elsewhere...a place that exceeds the knowledge I can obtain from getbig. This place I call my DREAM JOURNAL. I will jot down several more entries the next few nights and try to connect the dots. I will see where my dreams take me and what information they provide. Maybe they will reveal the secret to dominating the bench press!

you deadlift 405 for reps, but 225 troubles you in bench?? It might be genetic but strengthen your front delts and tris should do the trick
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Mars on July 09, 2009, 01:30:41 AM
i have long arms as well, have a hard time making them massive.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 09, 2009, 01:32:05 AM
i have long arms as well, have a hard time making them massive.

I have secret exercises for that, I will share them with The Great Mars
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: disco_stu on July 09, 2009, 01:33:35 AM
dont worry about it. some people dont have the physical mechanics to be able to lift big bench.

just keep on at it bro.

are you putting on mass?

if not, try a different rep range. my FBP was always crap compared to my other lifts..i could incline more than i did flat, and i could almost tricep french press what i benched...

still, flat flyes were pretty good, curls, leg press etc..all solid.

FBP is not the measure of strength or size. another way to look at it is to total about a dozen exercises and work on increasing that total.

theres loads of ways to measure improvement. getting caught up in the BP lift is negative and counter productive and will result in lower esteem, which will make it harder to progress.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: nzmusclemonster on July 09, 2009, 01:35:26 AM
I put my index fingers on the rings. I have long arms.

Whats your stats. Height, weight etc.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on July 09, 2009, 01:41:11 AM
I cannot get past a 225 bench press. I will get stronger at every other exercise (including dumbbell presses!) but my barbell bench will remain at 225 for 4 or 5 reps.

I will achieve impressive lifts (deadlift 405 for a few reps, squat 365 for moderate, shoulder press 80 pound dumbbells for 5 or 6 reps, barbell row 245 for 12-15 reps, dumbbell row the 125 for 14 reps), but my barbell bench will not BUDGE!
 
I know benching isn't everything but god damn it the first question I'm always asked.."How much do you bench, bro?" and then I say 225 and I get "Oh really? That's it?"

I've asked questions about benching here before and implicated the advice I got into my workouts but, fuck, NOTHING WORKS!.

Shit.

Is it genetic? Was I made in such a way that I will never dominate 225 pounds on the barbell bench press ever? Am I doomed to be forever embarrassed under the poundage of 225?

Perhaps I will look for the answer elsewhere...a place that exceeds the knowledge I can obtain from getbig. This place I call my DREAM JOURNAL. I will jot down several more entries the next few nights and try to connect the dots. I will see where my dreams take me and what information they provide. Maybe they will reveal the secret to dominating the bench press!

i had a friend who was just like you.. he was strong in everything but his bench press!!.. he had a bigger gyno than fat alex too!..
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 09, 2009, 01:53:22 AM
i had a friend who was just like you.. he was strong in everything but his bench press!!.. he had a bigger gyno than fat alex too!..

NEVER insult the KING!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on July 09, 2009, 01:57:02 AM
NEVER insult the KING!!!!!!!

i didnt insult his majesty, i was just mentioning him as a famous example of gyno!!.. and when i said "fat" i didnt mean to insult him,.. it was just a description..

dont worry slave boy, i respect your fat king..
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 09, 2009, 02:00:55 AM
i didnt insult his majesty, i was just mentioning him as a famous example of gyno!!.. and when i said "fat" i didnt mean to insult him,.. it was just a description..

dont worry slave boy, i respect your fat king..

You have been marked by the DELT DONS
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on July 09, 2009, 02:03:48 AM
You have been marked by the DELT DONS

again you didnt like your face in the pic. :-\ you have to practice how to pose without having your face look like shit ;D
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: WillGrant on July 09, 2009, 02:07:33 AM
Drop it all togeather , you are proberly overtrained on the movement..
Focus on upper pec work and use DBs for flat bench work.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: The Master on July 09, 2009, 02:11:46 AM
I cannot get past a 225 bench press. I will get stronger at every other exercise (including dumbbell presses!) but my barbell bench will remain at 225 for 4 or 5 reps.

I will achieve impressive lifts (deadlift 405 for a few reps, squat 365 for moderate, shoulder press 80 pound dumbbells for 5 or 6 reps, barbell row 245 for 12-15 reps, dumbbell row the 125 for 14 reps), but my barbell bench will not BUDGE!
 
I know benching isn't everything but god damn it the first question I'm always asked.."How much do you bench, bro?" and then I say 225 and I get "Oh really? That's it?"

I've asked questions about benching here before and implicated the advice I got into my workouts but, fuck, NOTHING WORKS!.

Shit.

Is it genetic? Was I made in such a way that I will never dominate 225 pounds on the barbell bench press ever? Am I doomed to be forever embarrassed under the poundage of 225?

Perhaps I will look for the answer elsewhere...a place that exceeds the knowledge I can obtain from getbig. This place I call my DREAM JOURNAL. I will jot down several more entries the next few nights and try to connect the dots. I will see where my dreams take me and what information they provide. Maybe they will reveal the secret to dominating the bench press!

Might help if you spend time learning proper powerlifting technique. Getting evaluated at the local powerlifting club might be a good idea. They can probably see your strenghts and weaknesses and teach you proper set-up on the bench and how to perform the exercise in the different stages. Proper technique can help you get the best out of the strenght you've got.

And make sure to let the powerlifters evaluate your training and progress.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Deicide on July 09, 2009, 02:28:53 AM
I sympathise, have the same problem.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on July 09, 2009, 02:32:40 AM
I sympathise, have the same problem.

you!!.. i belive you have all the problems in the world in everything!!..

can you mention one good thing you have?
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: The Master on July 09, 2009, 02:33:39 AM
you!!.. i belive you have all the problems in the world in everything!!..

can you mention one good thing you have?


ROFL ;D

(Sorry Deicide ;D )
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Deicide on July 09, 2009, 02:36:21 AM
you!!.. i belive you have all the problems in the world in everything!!..

can you mention one good thing you have?

I have nice eyes.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: The Master on July 09, 2009, 02:37:23 AM
I have nice eyes.

And a charmy way about you in videos 8)
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on July 09, 2009, 02:38:59 AM
I have nice eyes.

sure only you and your mama see them this way ;D
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Deicide on July 09, 2009, 02:39:22 AM
And a charmy way about you in videos 8)

Unlikely, but thanks anyway.

As we have discussed before, I am enormously privileged to have not been born in a 3rd world country.

Still, I have the same problem with poor benching compared to other exercises.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Deicide on July 09, 2009, 02:40:21 AM
sure only you and your mama see them this way ;D

No, I say this because all my life people have told me that; they are a rare mixture of blue, grey and green. People say how unusal they are. Not my claim.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: The Master on July 09, 2009, 02:40:35 AM
Unlikely, but thanks anyway.

As we have discussed before, I am enormously privileged to have not been born in a 3rd world country.

Still, I have the same problem with poor benching compared to other exercises.


Whats the link to your youtube account with the videos?

Tried learning powerlifting technique from someone and doing powerlifting programs?
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Deicide on July 09, 2009, 02:42:30 AM

Whats the link to your youtube account with the videos?

Tried learning powerlifting technique from someone and doing powerlifting programs?

Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on July 09, 2009, 02:44:54 AM
No, I say this because all my life people have told me that; they are a rare mixture of blue, grey and green. People say how unusal they are. Not my claim.

so your mother slept with 3 men, each had a different eye colour..
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Deicide on July 09, 2009, 02:46:14 AM
so your mother slept with 3 men, each had a different eye colour..


Uhm...unlike most of the world, Europeans have varied eye colour.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on July 09, 2009, 02:46:54 AM


wowwwww man wowwww.. your eyes are really amazing!!.. i can resist them :D
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: The Master on July 09, 2009, 02:49:19 AM




Rofl, you do have a charming way about you  you doofus :D
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on July 09, 2009, 02:49:32 AM
Uhm...unlike most of the world, Europeans have varied eye colour.

yes a typical pure euopean person must have blond hair and green/blue eyes.. a combo i dont like in women!
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Deicide on July 09, 2009, 02:51:26 AM


Rofl, you do have a charming way about you  you doofus :D

Yes, well I am a doofus, no one ever disputed that.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 09, 2009, 02:59:16 AM
Well.....aren't you the charming one 8)

You got charisma Pesticide, don't let anyone tell you different.

Now if we could just work on that chicken neck and sloping -shoulder thing
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Deicide on July 09, 2009, 03:00:08 AM
Well.....aren't you the charming one 8)

You got charisma Pesticide, don't let anyone tell you different.

Now if we could just work on that chicken neck and sloping -shoulder thing

If you gave me new DNA it would solve the problem.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 09, 2009, 03:04:00 AM
If you gave me new DNA it would solve the problem.

Or maybe if you renounced THG and it's self fufilling prophecy I would show you the glory that is The Orion Concept!!
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: The Master on July 09, 2009, 03:05:56 AM
Or maybe if you renounced THG and it's self fufilling prophecy I would show you the glory that is The Orion Concept!!

"The orion concept" sounds like a mixture between a brand of biscuits and a bunch of astrophysics nerds having a beer keg party without any chicks around.
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Post by: Palpatine Q on July 09, 2009, 03:07:40 AM
"The orion concept" sounds like a mixture between a brand of biscuits and a bunch of astrophysics nerds having a beer keg party without any chicks around.

Yes but I make them lift weights >:(
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Deicide on July 09, 2009, 03:09:49 AM
Or maybe if you renounced THG and it's self fufilling prophecy I would show you the glory that is The Orion Concept!!

I can't renounce THG because in bbing genetics=everything.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: The Master on July 09, 2009, 03:09:55 AM
Yes but I make them lift weights >:(

The people involved with "The Orion Concept":

(http://www.jonsouth.com/nerd.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/rizzotti/nerd.jpg)

Head trainer BalleGroina:

(http://images.teamsugar.com/files/usr/0/3987/Picture%203_21.png)
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on July 09, 2009, 03:17:00 AM
I can't renounce THG because in bbing genetics=everything.

but you are not a bodybuilder!!.. just try to reach the limits of your shitty genetics just to look better.. the only option in your case is to go from "very shitty shape" to just "shitty shape".. still shitty is better than very shitty so you have a goal to achive,.. dont be pessimistic!
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: The Master on July 09, 2009, 03:18:52 AM
but you are not a bodybuilder!!.. just try to reach the limits of your shitty genetics just to look better.. the only option in your case is to go from "very shitty shape" to just "shitty shape".. still shitty is better than very shitty so you have a goal to achive,.. dont be pessimistic!

Good points Sheriff.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 09, 2009, 03:18:57 AM
I can't renounce THG because in bbing genetics=everything.

I Think you are defeated before you even begin.

 in your mind you'll never be big, so it will never happen
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Deicide on July 09, 2009, 03:19:57 AM
but you are not a bodybuilder!!.. just try to reach the limits of your shitty genetics just to look better.. the only option in your case is to go from "very shitty shape" to just "shitty shape".. still shitty is better than very shitty so you have a goal to achive,.. dont be pessimistic!

Well, that is what I do try to do but I will always get comments like those from Groink.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 09, 2009, 03:21:26 AM
Well, that is what I do try to do but I will always get comments like those from Groink.

In all seriousness, i don't think you have shitty genetics. they aren't great....but you are a pretty stout guy.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on July 09, 2009, 03:23:38 AM
Good points Sheriff.

yes, this die-cide kid must learn from fat alex who had a shitty fat body with big gyno but still happy with himself and thinks he is big.. this positive way of thinking has enabled fat alex to reach the "shitty shape" i am asking decide to try to reach..
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Deicide on July 09, 2009, 03:23:59 AM
In all seriousness, i don't think you have shitty genetics. they aren't great....but you are a pretty stout guy.

(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z25/Todesfick/002-1.jpg)

(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z25/Todesfick/001-1.jpg)

THG for life!
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 09, 2009, 03:25:53 AM
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z25/Todesfick/002-1.jpg)

(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z25/Todesfick/001-1.jpg)

THG for life!

you need to work on shoulder width, which is easily done ,and your arms...... and you would look pretty good

Can't do shit about the tats but i guess you like em
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Epic_Monster on July 09, 2009, 03:27:41 AM
I cannot get past a 225 bench press. I will get stronger at every other exercise (including dumbbell presses!) but my barbell bench will remain at 225 for 4 or 5 reps.

I will achieve impressive lifts (deadlift 405 for a few reps, squat 365 for moderate, shoulder press 80 pound dumbbells for 5 or 6 reps, barbell row 245 for 12-15 reps, dumbbell row the 125 for 14 reps), but my barbell bench will not BUDGE!
 
I know benching isn't everything but god damn it the first question I'm always asked.."How much do you bench, bro?" and then I say 225 and I get "Oh really? That's it?"

I've asked questions about benching here before and implicated the advice I got into my workouts but, fuck, NOTHING WORKS!.

Shit.

Is it genetic? Was I made in such a way that I will never dominate 225 pounds on the barbell bench press ever? Am I doomed to be forever embarrassed under the poundage of 225?

Perhaps I will look for the answer elsewhere...a place that exceeds the knowledge I can obtain from getbig. This place I call my DREAM JOURNAL. I will jot down several more entries the next few nights and try to connect the dots. I will see where my dreams take me and what information they provide. Maybe they will reveal the secret to dominating the bench press!

DON'T TRIP MY WIZZLE :o
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on July 09, 2009, 03:27:53 AM
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z25/Todesfick/002-1.jpg)

(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z25/Todesfick/001-1.jpg)

THG for life!

sorry!!.. after seeing your pics i am asking you to plz ignore my advice!!.. your case is horrible.. much shittier than what i was expecting..
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Deicide on July 09, 2009, 03:28:56 AM
sorry!!.. after seeing your pics i am asking you to plz ignore my advice!!.. your case is horrible.. much shittier than what i was expecting..

Fortunately I have other pursuits apart from lifting weights...
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on July 09, 2009, 03:30:48 AM
decide,.. in all seriousness you look great, you just need to improve the following parts:

traps..
shoulders..
arms..
chest..
abs..
back..
legs..
calves..

other than that you look great :P
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Post by: ManBearPig... on July 09, 2009, 03:31:57 AM
i bet diecide has an average size penis.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Deicide on July 09, 2009, 03:32:33 AM
i bet diecide has an average size penis.

Yes, average sized.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on July 09, 2009, 03:32:44 AM
Fortunately I have other pursuits apart from lifting weights...

yes i know, it's to post on GB all the time and to try to find any job in any country with a better offer!
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: The Master on July 09, 2009, 03:33:22 AM
you need to work on shoulder width, which is easily done ,and your arms...... and you would look pretty good

Can't do shit about the tats but i guess you like em


From the orion concept school of lifting:





What a slick guy BalleGROINka is!
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 09, 2009, 03:34:18 AM

From the orion concept school of lifting:





What a slick guy BalleGROINka is!

ARNOLD DID IT  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Deicide on July 09, 2009, 03:34:28 AM
yes i know, it's to post on GB all the time and to try to find any job in any country with a better offer!

 ::)
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 09, 2009, 03:35:48 AM
::)

Sherif saladtosser seems to be in a particularly self-loathing mood this morning
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: The Master on July 09, 2009, 03:36:09 AM
ARNOLD DID IT  >:( >:(

No need to justify it.

BalleGroinka brings joy and spermballness to the world :D
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on July 09, 2009, 03:41:24 AM
Sherif saladtosser seems to be in a particularly self-loathing mood this morning

what is your problem with me now slave boy old man??.. i didnt insult your fat king now.. i was just helping a pesimistic kid to be optimistic and to do his best to look like shit ;D!..
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 09, 2009, 03:42:29 AM
what is your problem with me now slave boy old man??.. i didnt insult your fat kind now.. i was just helping a pesimistic kid to be optimistic and to do his best to look like shit ;D!..

Thank god I am me
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Deicide on July 09, 2009, 03:42:59 AM
No need to justify it.

BalleGroinka brings joy and spermballness to the world :D

(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z25/Todesfick/fembber.jpg)
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: dr.chimps on July 09, 2009, 03:43:47 AM
In all seriousness, i don't think you have shitty genetics. they aren't great....but you are a pretty stout guy.
What is this, a Robin Hood recruitment drive!? 
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on July 09, 2009, 03:45:22 AM
Thank god I am me

yes we must thank God for everything even for the bad things.. like you have just done now!
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Method101 on July 09, 2009, 03:52:29 AM
TINY TIT

(http://images.ea.com/games/cncportal/RedAlert/Uprising/RA3UprisingRicFlair.jpg)
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: nzmusclemonster on July 09, 2009, 04:03:43 AM


That was beautiful man  :'(

Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 09, 2009, 04:14:41 AM
You have been marked by the DELT DONS
:D
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: nodeal on July 09, 2009, 11:00:48 AM
There is no way that you can do barbell rows with 245 for 12 to 14 reps and not be able to bench 225 for 1.  Totally impossible, unless your barbell row form is totally fucked (which it probably is.)

I can do 225 for 4 or 5 reps at best. I can do barbell rows with that amount of weight. Fuck off.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: nodeal on July 09, 2009, 11:02:36 AM
Increasing my standing military press was the key to increasing my bench.

I have tried this champ, did not work.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: nodeal on July 09, 2009, 11:03:51 AM
Whats your stats. Height, weight etc.

I'm 6'4 and around 220.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on July 09, 2009, 11:12:24 AM
I think people, even powerlifters, don't do enough chest assistance. It's weird because people of course think the bench as a chest exercise. Doesn't the chest work throught the whole range of motion like the triceps? So yeah I would think it's really important. Even if it were your strongest muscle.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: disco_stu on July 09, 2009, 05:58:27 PM
I think people, even powerlifters, don't do enough chest assistance. It's weird because people of course think the bench as a chest exercise. Doesn't the chest work throught the whole range of motion like the triceps? So yeah I would think it's really important. Even if it were your strongest muscle.

whilst it does work throughout the entire range, it doesnt work at maximum load for the entire ROM. Theres a point say, between about o% to 20% where it is mechanically disadvantaged..then from about 20% through to about 70-80% it is about maximum load, then from 80%-100%, the load rapidly transfers to shoulders and tris..and even lats.

thats why partial reps work, and why full range is arguably a waste of time and a risky business...particularly if full range means bottoming out. the top end isnt so risky.

Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: wavelength on July 09, 2009, 07:13:38 PM
http://www.orion.at/
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: 2Thick on July 09, 2009, 07:48:52 PM
I can do 225 for 4 or 5 reps at best. I can do barbell rows with that amount of weight. Fuck off.

Pics or it didn't happen.
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: chaos on July 09, 2009, 07:50:38 PM

But to answer your title question......yes, you are doomed to be a tiny tit the rest of your life
X2
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: haider on July 09, 2009, 07:55:32 PM
Work on technique, muscular weaknesses. Periodize your workouts.

Title: Re: I cannot get past a 225 bench press. Help!
Post by: bigbobs on July 12, 2009, 02:28:35 PM
I cannot get past a 225 bench press. I will get stronger at every other exercise (including dumbbell presses!) but my barbell bench will remain at 225 for 4 or 5 reps.

I will achieve impressive lifts (deadlift 405 for a few reps, squat 365 for moderate, shoulder press 80 pound dumbbells for 5 or 6 reps, barbell row 245 for 12-15 reps, dumbbell row the 125 for 14 reps), but my barbell bench will not BUDGE!
 
I know benching isn't everything but god damn it the first question I'm always asked.."How much do you bench, bro?" and then I say 225 and I get "Oh really? That's it?"


It is easier to cheat or do partial reps on the exercises you quoted like dumbell rows, barbell rows, seated dumbell press and squats.  If you did them properly you would probably be using lesser weight and not feeling that your bench is too weak in relation to them.
Title: Re: I cannot get past a 225 bench press. Help!
Post by: stuntmovie on July 12, 2009, 03:25:29 PM
Haven't had a chance to read all of this to see if it was recommended yet, but your best bet is to do ISOMETRICS on the bench. If you want more info about this, just let me know and I'll send some details.

It's never failed to work!
Title: Re: I cannot get past a 225 bench press. Help!
Post by: nodeal on July 12, 2009, 04:55:34 PM
It is easier to cheat or do partial reps on the exercises you quoted like dumbell rows, barbell rows, seated dumbell press and squats.  If you did them properly you would probably be using lesser weight and not feeling that your bench is too weak in relation to them.

I assure you that my situation is unique in the sense that I do indeed do those exercises with a good range of motion while maintaining a shitty bench. I get a good stretch and contraction on my rows...I go down to parallel on my squats, and my seated shoulder dumbbell presses are by the book...

Haven't had a chance to read all of this to see if it was recommended yet, but your best bet is to do ISOMETRICS on the bench. If you want more info about this, just let me know and I'll send some details.

It's never failed to work!

By all means...share your knowledge with me!
Title: Re: I cannot get past a 225 bench press. Help!
Post by: Matt C on July 12, 2009, 05:24:01 PM
I cannot get past a 225 bench press. Help!

I can't gain muscle at all.  I need more help than you do.
Title: Re: I cannot get past a 225 bench press. Help!
Post by: Ursus on July 12, 2009, 06:02:47 PM
triceps and shoulders most important

I press with pinkies 3" in from rings
Title: Re: I cannot get past a 225 bench press. Help!
Post by: bigbobs on July 12, 2009, 09:56:30 PM
Do you use the 2.5 lb plates at all?  Try 230 next time, 235 after a while, 240, etc.
Title: Re: I cannot get past a 225 bench press. Help!
Post by: nodeal on July 12, 2009, 10:26:25 PM
Do you use the 2.5 lb plates at all?  Try 230 next time, 235 after a while, 240, etc.

I actually like this idea and will give it a shot next chest workout!
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: 2ND COMING on July 12, 2009, 10:43:11 PM
I'm 6'4 and around 220.

im 6'5'' and when i was 220 i was lanky as fuck and you guessed it, weak as fuck

you need to put on more weight if you want a bigger bench, its really that simple
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: alnassak on July 12, 2009, 11:01:40 PM
you!!.. i belive you have all the problems in the world in everything!!..

can you mention one good thing you have?

X10000000 You really made me laughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh my bro  ;D
Title: Re: I cannot get past a 225 bench press. Help!
Post by: heretostay13 on July 12, 2009, 11:04:22 PM
I did 365lbs on flat bench for 12...what can I do to get it to 13?  :(
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: alnassak on July 12, 2009, 11:12:34 PM
but you are not a bodybuilder!!.. just try to reach the limits of your shitty genetics just to look better.. the only option in your case is to go from "very shitty shape" to just "shitty shape".. still shitty is better than very shitty so you have a goal to achive,.. dont be pessimistic!

Sherief Your posts really make me laugh hardly; we need more members like you to draw the smile on our faces  ;D
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: alnassak on July 12, 2009, 11:16:41 PM
yes, this die-cide kid must learn from fat alex who had a shitty fat body with big gyno but still happy with himself and thinks he is big.. this positive way of thinking has enabled fat alex to reach the "shitty shape" i am asking decide to try to reach..

You haven’t left any one alone  ;D  However, being happy with what you got is a achievement.  That counts for Alex  ;)
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: alnassak on July 12, 2009, 11:18:41 PM
decide,.. in all seriousness you look great, you just need to improve the following parts:

traps..
shoulders..
arms..
chest..
abs..
back..
legs..
calves..

other than that you look great :P

+ some work on that shitty face too  ;D
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on July 12, 2009, 11:25:41 PM
Sherief Your posts really make me laugh hardly; we need more members like you to draw the smile on our faces  ;D

no bro. actually idiots like decide and fat alex are the ones who bring the fun here!!.. they are funny without knowing they are.. the king has a bitch gyno and an elephant BF% but still very optimistic to see himself big as pro. bbs!!.. and that guy decide who sees himself the worst in everything!!.. quite a strange but funny characters ;)
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: alnassak on July 12, 2009, 11:26:32 PM
yes we must thank God for everything even for the bad things.. like you have just done now!

Looooooooool  ;D
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: alnassak on July 12, 2009, 11:33:21 PM
no bro. actually idiots like decide and fat alex are the ones who bring the fun here!!.. they are funny without knowing they are.. the king has a bitch gyno and an elephant BF% but still very optimistic to see himself big as pro. bbs!!.. and that guy decide who sees himself the worst in everything!!.. quite a strange but funny characters ;)

I see your point and I know what you are talking about.  However, what is so funny to me is your way\methods of describing things.  You must be a comedian guy as we say in Arabic “you have a light blood”   ;D
Title: Re: Am I doomed to be a tiny tit for the rest of my life?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on July 12, 2009, 11:47:23 PM
I see your point and I know what you are talking about.  However, what is so funny to me is your way\methods of describing things.  You must be a comedian guy as we say in Arabic “you have a light blood”   ;D

great arab genetics bro ;D