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Ronnie 2001 Arnold Classic best bodybuilder ever on a stage
Unbelivable!!!!!
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LMAO AT 2:03 HAAAAAHA ;D
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I heard women screaming. Was that real or was that coming from the speakers?
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I heard women screaming. Was that real or was that coming from the speakers?
coming from bob chic :P
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coming from bob chic :P
Hahaha damn. ;D
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coming from bob chic :P
or blechman in the front row ;D
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LMAO AT 2:03 HAAAAAHA ;D
that was coming from ND. he realized at that moment that his hero didn't come close 8)
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Wow...that's a look that you don't see today. He doesn't quite have that bloated look that Jay and Co. seem to have these days. Whether it's the 'slin and just massive doses or whatever- and certainly Ronnie is on a similar stack- Ronnie just has a crisp look to him and his muscles still pop. He lost that in later years though.
Too bad he couldn't hold that through the rest of his 5 Olympia wins.
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From this video I just don't see why people brag so much about the 01 AC being his best condition or show ever.
Maybe it's the lights, but to me his condition seemed much better in 98, 99, and even 03.
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looks kinda watery to me. sorry hulky
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From this video I just don't see why people brag so much about the 01 AC being his best condition or show ever.
Maybe it's the lights, but to me his condition seemed much better in 98, 99, and even 03.
Plus, the video is shot at that stupid side angle. Needs to be in front to get the true story.
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From this video I just don't see why people brag so much about the 01 AC being his best condition or show ever.
Maybe it's the lights, but to me his condition seemed much better in 98, 99, and even 03.
well, I have long maintained that he was better at the 99 olympia,
despite the fact that the nuthuggers (ie ND) love to shove a quote from Peter McGough claiming otherwise down our throats ::)
most people on all the boards say the same thing when shown the two clips. less of a gut, bigger, just as hard etc.
compare ronnie AC to the 99 olympia prejudging and its quite clear he was better and bigger in 1999:
http://www.dailymotion.com/tag/Coleman/video/x3w9ak_ronnie-coleman-1999-mr-olympia-part_sport
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ps its worth noting for laughing purposes that the video clips of 99 like I posted above are claimed by the nuthuggers to be 'faked' and 'doctored'
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its amazing how retarded these guys are, just to make ronnie seem worse so their hero has a chance LOL
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He was definitely better in 99. Great video, by the way.
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well, I have long maintained that he was better at the 99 olympia,
despite the fact that the nuthuggers (ie ND) love to shove a quote from Peter McGough claiming otherwise down our throats ::)
most people on all the boards say the same thing when shown the two clips. less of a gut, bigger, just as hard etc.
compare ronnie AC to the 99 olympia prejudging and its quite clear he was better and bigger in 1999:
http://www.dailymotion.com/tag/Coleman/video/x3w9ak_ronnie-coleman-1999-mr-olympia-part_sport
Ok he looks amazing there ;D
no one stood a chance at beating ronnie in that condition
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He was definitely better in 99. Great video, by the way.
yes, he was.
its the nuthuggers that are in some sort of crazy, delusional denial.
its like it wouldn't matter what you showed them from 99, no matter what because of the McGough Quote, they will always maintain he was better at the AC.
its this sort of narrow minded, closed, no proof will change my opinion- way of thinking that makes them so sad.
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no one stood a chance at beating ronnie in that condition
especially an early 90's Mr. Olympia.. 8)
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2001 AC vs 99 olympia,
so, smoking anything Peter McGough? LOL
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LOL
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if Ronnie was better at the AC, then he should be blowing away 99 in all these shots. he isn't.
and never was..
99 Ronnie >> 2001 AC ronnie.
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that was coming from ND. he realized at that moment that his hero didn't come close 8)
hahahahahah another thread you mention my name ;) thanks for proving me right again
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LOL
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if Ronnie was better at the AC, then he should be blowing away 99 in all these shots. he isn't.
and never was..
99 Ronnie >> 2001 AC ronnie.
only an idiot would claim Ronnie 99 beats 2001 ...and we know it would be you ;D
different source pics , different lighting , I'll take the words of people who were actually over there over pics , the conditioning is night and day Ronnie is peeled and hard as nails in 01
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ps its worth noting for laughing purposes that the video clips of 99 like I posted above are claimed by the nuthuggers to be 'faked' and 'doctored'
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its amazing how retarded these guys are, just to make ronnie seem worse so their hero has a chance LOL
It has nothing to do with Yates that Bizzy worked that video and the subsequent screencaps from it , it's a proven FACT Kevin Horton exposed both you and him ;) hell even Bizzy admitted he touched them up ;D
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2001 AC vs 99 olympia,
so, smoking anything Peter McGough? LOL
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Team Flex said Ronnie's best showing was 2001 NOT just McGough ;) but Hulkster the hypocrite will cling to Team Flex when it suits his purposes and dismiss them when they don't
Hypocrite much?
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conditioning night and day my ass ::)
99 is right there with the AC, only with a smaller gut and 10 pounds more muscle.
look and weep
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It has nothing to do with Yates that Bizzy worked that video and the subsequent screencaps from it , it's a proven FACT Kevin Horton exposed both you and him ;) hell even Bizzy admitted he touched them up ;D
sorry, but the 99 vid was on the web long before bizzy came along.
not to mention many here, myself included have the vid and its the same.
nice pathetic, desperate try though
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hell even Bizzy admitted he touched them up
you really need to get your facts straight. he publicly and specifically denied doing anything to the vid.
same with ForcedReps and everyone else.
many may not know this, but the nuthuggers have been crying that the 99 vid is faked from day one, no matter who posts it.. ::)
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conditioning night and day my ass ::)
99 is right there with the AC, only with a smaller gut and 10 pounds more muscle.
look and weep
Your claims always contradict the experts who were there , it's old news with you , EVERYONE is wrong the internet-fan-boy sitting at home looking at pics knows more lol
I always laugh at how stupid you are read the title too , most don't agree 99 is better ;)
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Your claims always contradict the experts who were there
no, they aren't my claims. they are the claims of many.
this is real life, and it does the job of proving the opinions of a few to be incorrect quite nicely.
talk is cheap.
real life is all the proof any of us need.
its funny you are appealing to the ad populum argument you so desperately tried to put down.. ::)
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most don't agree 99 is better
they do when shown the comparisons.
and for good reason.
because he was.
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what we have to remember is that the 2001 AC performance by ronnie will always be remembered.
why?
because it was a HUGE deal at the time that the reigning Mr. O was competing it what was at the time, nothing more than another stop on the road to the olympia.
remember, Mr. O's hardly ever compete in olympia qualifying contests.
the fact that Ronnie also showed up in amazing shape also makes it stand out.
put these two things together and its all anyone remembers.
it doesn't mean ronnie wasnt better at other times (which a quick glance at real life shows he was better at at least one or two other contests), but everyone will always remember the AC.
it was the first time a reigning Mr. O competeted (and won) the contest..
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ps given McGough's, um...questionable track record on correct opinions backed up by real life, I'm not surprised he mistakenly feels that the AC ronnie was his best ever performance.. :-X
you have to remember, this is a guy who claimed that dorian in precontest shape was harder than ronnie coleman ever was, and well, we can see how correct THAT is LOL
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Ya'll 2 mother fuckers fight like it is your job. Like someone is paying you a good annual salary to argue. What do you do for a living?
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Ya'll 2 mother fuckers fight like it is your job. Like someone is paying you a good annual salary to argue. What do you do for a living?
well, I work for municipal government and have a great job.
ND works for a flower company. seriously. lol :-*
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TEAM BAN HULKSTER
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hahahahaha
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no, they aren't my claims. they are the claims of many.
this is real life, and it does the job of proving the opinions of a few to be incorrect quite nicely.
talk is cheap.
real life is all the proof any of us need.
its funny you are appealing to the ad populum argument you so desperately tried to put down.. ::)
Hulkster here is the difference they were actually there live and in person and NONE of the people agree with you were , it's a matter of actually being at all the said contests and knowing what you're actually looking for
it's not an appeal to numbers it's the simple fact of people were there you're wrong as usual on ALL accounts
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well, I work for municipal government and have a great job.
ND works for a flower company. seriously. lol :-*
You're not being paid to peruse GB all day are you on a government PC, wasting taxpayer's money are you?
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what we have to remember is that the 2001 AC performance by ronnie will always be remembered.
why?
because it was a HUGE deal at the time that the reigning Mr. O was competing it what was at the time, nothing more than another stop on the road to the olympia.
remember, Mr. O's hardly ever compete in olympia qualifying contests.
the fact that Ronnie also showed up in amazing shape also makes it stand out.
put these two things together and its all anyone remembers.
it doesn't mean ronnie wasnt better at other times (which a quick glance at real life shows he was better at at least one or two other contests), but everyone will always remember the AC.
it was the first time a reigning Mr. O competeted (and won) the contest..
Oh so that's the reason everyone talks about that showing lol you simpleton , it couldn't be that he looked his absolute best in terms of physique lol
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well, I work for municipal government and have a great job.
ND works for a flower company. seriously. lol :-*
And yet here you are praising my intelligence and notice I never did the same for you ;)
Peter McGough's job was to write for the biggest bodybuilding publication on the planet and when he as well as many other paid experts were in attendance for the 1999 and 2001 contests guess which one they said was better ;) and your job is no greater than mine because you work for the Canadian Gov lol
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you really need to get your facts straight. he publicly and specifically denied doing anything to the vid.
same with ForcedReps and everyone else.
many may not know this, but the nuthuggers have been crying that the 99 vid is faked from day one, no matter who posts it.. ::)
BULLSHIT he admitted to tampering with lighting and sharpening , I never said forcedreps were worked sorry dummy wrong again and Kevin Horton used forcedreps to show Bizzy's were oversharped ;)
I have the 99 Olympia on vid and it doesn't look like Bizzy's ;)
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TEAM BAN HULKSTER
Now that's a team I'll join ;D
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sorry, but the 99 vid was on the web long before bizzy came along.
not to mention many here, myself included have the vid and its the same.
nice pathetic, desperate try though
Kevin Horton ( who was at the contest ;) ) explaining the difference between Bizzy' and forcedreps ;)
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Ronnie Coleman | 1999
In his first defense of the Mr. O title, Coleman exhibited size, condition and sinew-splitting fullness he lacked a year earlier. At 257 pounds, he was so separated that he looked like a walking anatomy chart. That being said, I still think he achieved his best-ever physique for the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic.
Flex Magazine August 2003
Jim Schmatltz on Ronnie chances of winning six Olympias in a row
if he repeats his 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic form, he'll experience the joy of six.
Shawn Perine Ironage Dec 11, 2004
As much as I love Haney and my IA champs, I think Ronnie circa '98 or at the 2001 Arnold is pretty much untouchable. Except by Dorian Yates 6 weeks out from the '93 O as photographed by our own KMH. Both men, on those specific occasions carried so much dry muscle mass in good proportion and with good lines that it's almost unfair to compare them to others.
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And yet here you are praising my intelligence and notice I never did the same for you ;)
Peter McGough's job was to write for the biggest bodybuilding publication on the planet and when he as well as many other paid experts were in attendance for the 1999 and 2001 contests guess which one they said was better ;) and your job is no greater than mine because you work for the Canadian Gov lol
notice how I said WAS smart. you got stupid real quick buddy.
ever since the 99 olympia pics and vids came out, all you nuthuggers collectively shit your pants and lost your brains at the same time..
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BULLSHIT he admitted to tampering with lighting and sharpening
nope, not with any of that stuff. he specifically told us when he was changing stuff (none of that stuff) to see the effect it had.
I have posted his response before, but as always you, "Mr. Quotes" sweeps it under the carpet like you always do.. ::)
besides, even if he had, that is one posting. there are tons of posts of the olympia 99 all over the place. most of which I have linked to at one time or another. all of which you claim are faked.. ::)
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notice how I said WAS smart. you got stupid real quick buddy.
ever since the 99 olympia pics and vids came out, all you nuthuggers collectively shit your pants and lost your brains at the same time..
Hahahahahah shit excuse for a spin , you were saying ' was ' smart because I wasn't here posting for a time after my sister past away ;)
99 pics and vid was out WELL before I took my sabbatical in fact Pain at bodybuildingdungeon had them before forcedreps and bizzy ;) I scanned 99 Olympia coverage from Flex well before Bizzy ever started posting ;)
Kevin Horton owns you , I own you , 2001 owns 1999 ALL PROVEN FACTS ;)
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You're not being paid to peruse GB all day are you on a government PC, wasting taxpayer's money are you?
no, I never post on getbig from my computer at work. too many porn links and pics.
I posted today cause I am off work for a bit.
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nope, not with any of that stuff. he specifically told us when he was changing stuff (none of that stuff) to see the effect it had.
I have posted his response before, but as always you, "Mr. Quotes" sweeps it under the carpet like you always do.. ::)
besides, even if he had, that is one posting. there are tons of posts of the olympia 99 all over the place. most of which I have linked to at one time or another. all of which you claim are faked.. ::)
the links to the video you posted is HOSTED by Bizzy lying idiot NO ONE"S 99 Olympia looks like Bizzy's and I have the video ;)
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That was funny today ;D
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2001 owns 1999 ALL PROVEN FACTS
you mean all proven WRONG:
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still waiting for all the pics and vids showing how much better he was at the AC than in 99.
because if what McGough says is correct, they all would show it..
still haven't seen any yet..
probably never will either..
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gee look at that!
as always 99>>AC
ND you should find another writer to blindly follow. McGough is on crack. that much is quite clear to anyone with eyes and a brain..
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you mean all proven WRONG:
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still waiting for all the pics and vids showing how much better he was at the AC than in 99.
because if what McGough says is correct, they all would show it..
still haven't seen any yet..
probably never will either..
McGough , Perine , Merritt , etc ALL were in attendance in 1999/2001 were you?
you see what you want they saw reality ;)
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gee look at that!
as always 99>>AC
ND you should find another writer to blindly follow. McGough is on crack. that much is quite clear to anyone with eyes and a brain..
Ronnie Coleman | 1999
In his first defense of the Mr. O title, Coleman exhibited size, condition and sinew-splitting fullness he lacked a year earlier. At 257 pounds, he was so separated that he looked like a walking anatomy chart. That being said, I still think he achieved his best-ever physique for the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic.
Flex Magazine August 2003
Jim Schmatltz on Ronnie chances of winning six Olympias in a row
if he repeats his 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic form, he'll experience the joy of six.
Shawn Perine Ironage Dec 11, 2004
As much as I love Haney and my IA champs, I think Ronnie circa '98 or at the 2001 Arnold is pretty much untouchable. Except by Dorian Yates 6 weeks out from the '93 O as photographed by our own KMH. Both men, on those specific occasions carried so much dry muscle mass in good proportion and with good lines that it's almost unfair to compare them to others.
Sorry NOT only McGough and this isn't including the quote from Team Flex that Neo likes to post all the time
question were you there in 1999 and 2001? YEAH I THOUGHT SO ........................ .next
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ND, what you don't get is that people may prefer his 2001 streamlined smaller look over his bigger, more full 99 look. as a matter of preference only, irregardless of whether or not he was in better shape.
your not smart enough to realize this.
because if he WERE in better shape in 2001, there wouldnt be so many shots of 99 blowing away the AC pics/vids, now would there?
of course not.
yet another lesson in bodybuilding taught by Hulkster to NarcasissticDaisy..
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ND, what you don't get is that people may prefer his 2001 streamlined smaller look over his bigger, more full 99 look. as a matter of preference only, irregardless of whether or not he was in better shape.
your not smart enough to realize this.
because if he WERE in better shape in 2001, there wouldnt be so many shots of 99 blowing away the AC pics/vids, now would there?
of course not.
yet another lesson in bodybuilding taught by Hulkster to NarcasissticDaisy..
It's a matter of preference based on the FACT he was harder and drier ;) you see what you want in pics and video I see 2001 looked peeled and hard as nails and 99 NOT which coincides with the people who were actually THERE live and in person which trumps anything internet-fany-boys type
so your lesson states you sitting at home looking at pics are going to tell the paid experts with years of experience who were in attendance of both said contests are indeed wrong and you're right LMFAO
go teach your ' lessons ' to the other mental challenged people ;)
the experts agree 2001 KILLS 1999 thanks for playing , pics and video confirm this
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the experts agree 2001 KILLS 1999 thanks for playing , pics and video confirm this
they do? thats news to all of us. show us ND, post the pics and videos that confirm this ::).
we are all waiting.
in the mean time, enjoy the 1999 Olympia video again: it owns you and owns 2001
http://www.dailymotion.com/tag/Coleman/video/x3w9ak_ronnie-coleman-1999-mr-olympia-part_sport
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It's a matter of preference based on the FACT he was harder and drier ;) you see what you want in pics and video I see 2001 looked peeled and hard as nails and 99 NOT which coincides with the people who were actually THERE live and in person which trumps anything internet-fany-boys type
so your lesson states you sitting at home looking at pics are going to tell the paid experts with years of experience who were in attendance of both said contests are indeed wrong and you're right LMFAO
go teach your ' lessons ' to the other mental challenged people ;)
the experts agree 2001 KILLS 1999 thanks for playing , pics and video confirm this
I agree. ;D
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Man, I wonder how many of ND's 27k post, and Hulksters 18k posts, are the two of them arguing back and forth about Ronnie's best shape and/or Dorian being better than Ronnie.....
....if they had a nickel for every time the argument cropped up or one of them hi-jacked a thread about the aforementioned subjects....fuck they could have a Derek Anthony G4P session!
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That was funny today ;D
i saw Bruno today,so i had to post that
''My shtinkenholler would look like Louis Armstrong doing a trumpet solo''
;D
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well, I have long maintained that he was better at the 99 olympia,
despite the fact that the nuthuggers (ie ND) love to shove a quote from Peter McGough claiming otherwise down our throats ::)
most people on all the boards say the same thing when shown the two clips. less of a gut, bigger, just as hard etc.
compare ronnie AC to the 99 olympia prejudging and its quite clear he was better and bigger in 1999:
http://www.dailymotion.com/tag/Coleman/video/x3w9ak_ronnie-coleman-1999-mr-olympia-part_sport
Obsessed much ::)
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He looks better than Dorian ever did in both contests...just sayin
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they do? thats news to all of us. show us ND, post the pics and videos that confirm this ::).
we are all waiting.
in the mean time, enjoy the 1999 Olympia video again: it owns you and owns 2001
http://www.dailymotion.com/tag/Coleman/video/x3w9ak_ronnie-coleman-1999-mr-olympia-part_sport
Oh the 99 video posted by Bizzy who Kevin Horton BUSTED ;)
Hulkster's M.O.
make a contradictory claim
deny the experts who were there
posts pics and say ' see '
use personal attacks
you're so stupid and predictable . there is a very good reason why the experts agree 2001 is Ronnie's best showing you have a long history of denial & ignorance so keep spouting your nonsense I;ll keep correcting it and pointing it out ;)
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Man, I wonder how many of ND's 27k post, and Hulksters 18k posts, are the two of them arguing back and forth about Ronnie's best shape and/or Dorian being better than Ronnie.....
....if they had a nickel for every time the argument cropped up or one of them hi-jacked a thread about the aforementioned subjects....fuck they could have a Derek Anthony G4P session!
Unlike Hulkster I'm not a one trick pony , I post on a lot of other topics he doesn't , his whole GetBig career is bashing Yates , sucking Ronnie's balls and chasing me around .
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He looks better than Dorian ever did in both contests...just sayin
obviously. its only those who have no clue (the few nuthugggers) who think otherwise..
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I agree. ;D
you agree with ND on everything. you are his bitch.
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so your lesson states you sitting at home looking at pics are going to tell the paid experts with years of experience who were in attendance of both said contests are indeed wrong and you're right LMFAO
LOL so now everything the experts say must be automatically true, even if real life shows otherwise.
okay ND, that means in your fantasy world:
ronnie was never injured
ronnie should have won the 2007 olympia
Flex Wheeler really had 0.00% bodyfat and arms bigger than his waist
Dorian's torn bi made no overall difference
dorian was harder precontest than ronnie ever was
etc.
need I go on? ::)
its amazing you can type shit this stupid..
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LOL so now everything the experts say must be automatically true, even if real life shows otherwise.
okay ND, that means in your fantasy world:
ronnie was never injured
ronnie should have won the 2007 olympia
Flex Wheeler really had 0.00% bodyfat and arms bigger than his waist
Dorian's torn bi made no overall difference
dorian was harder precontest than ronnie ever was
etc.
need I go on? ::)
its amazing you can type shit this stupid..
What's amazing is how stupid you sound when you type ' real life ' you weren't there , therefore you have absolutely NO perspective on real life
YOU are always in stark and direct opposition on what the experts say , always... you are consistently wrong in your opinions which means the obvious..you don't know what the fuck you're talking about ( old news ) and then have the audacity to say those who do are wrong despite never once being at any event anywhere anytime LMFAO
I'll leave your stupidity to stand on it's own to legs ;)
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you agree with ND on everything. you are his bitch.
No , no YOU are my bitch ;)
which is exactly why YOU follow me around just like one I hurt ;D
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still waiting for the pics and vids ND.
show us how much better Ronnie was in 01 than at the 99 Olympia LOL
it should be pretty easy to do.
something tells me we will be waiting here a loooooonnggg time LOL
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you cant produce as always.
how sad.
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still waiting for the pics and vids ND.
show us how much better Ronnie was in 01 than at the 99 Olympia LOL
it should be pretty easy to do.
something tells me we will be waiting here a loooooonnggg time LOL
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you cant produce as always.
how sad.
Did you read the title of this thread? 2001 BEST EVER lmfao stick 1999 up your ass kid
I'm still waiting Hulkster for the avalanche of quotes all hailing 1999 as Ronnie's best showing ever LMFAO I asked for these years ago and I'm still waiting ;)
the paid experts agree 2001 murders 1999 , Ronnie even said his best Olympia was 1998 HE DOESN'T EVEN AGREE WITH YOU
owned
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What's amazing is how stupid you sound when you type ' real life ' you weren't there , therefore you have absolutely NO perspective on real life
YOU are always in stark and direct opposition on what the experts say , always... you are consistently wrong in your opinions which means the obvious..you don't know what the fuck you're talking about ( old news ) and then have the audacity to say those who do are wrong despite never once being at any event anywhere anytime LMFAO
I'll leave your stupidity to stand on it's own to legs ;)
actually, as always, real life is in stark contrast to what McGough and a few others say about 2001.
this might help you see reality:
as always, 99 is far better:
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lol look at the lack of detail in 2001 compared to 99.
this is just so damn easy.
will there EVER be any proof that Ronnie was better in 01 than in 99?
answer: fuck no.
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the comparisons in this thread a fantastic example of how talk is cheap and most of it is total bullshit.
thank god reality trumps human verbal bullshit every single time
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actually, as always, real life is in stark contrast to what McGough and a few others say about 2001.
this might help you see reality:
as always, 99 is far better:
were you at the 1999 Mr Olympia and the 2001 Arnold Classic? let me answer for you NO
don't talk about reality dummy , run along and make up some more bullshit like Ronnie was grainer than Dorian
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the comparisons in this thread a fantastic example of how talk is cheap and most of it is total bullshit.
thank god reality trumps human verbal bullshit every single time
IRONY alert
talk is cheap especially coming from internet-fan-boys who were NEVER at either contest ;)
to quote Bob Chick
Bob Chick GetBig Jan 15 , 2007
The judges made their decision based on what they saw live and in person. Pictures mean nothing as they can be deceiving...
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I find ND's avoidance of comparisons between the two contests quite telling.
he knows damn well all the comparisons show that the words of a few are wrong.
and here is another one for you, just another in an endless string of comparisons, all showing the same thing:
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Unlike Hulkster I'm not a one trick pony , I post on a lot of other topics he doesn't , his whole GetBig career is bashing Yates , sucking Ronnie's balls and chasing me around .
You don't have to worry about that, at least with me. I fully realize the situation, and who is/does what.
I'm beginning to think that Hulkster is either Ronnie himself, or certainly a man that lives vicariously through Ronnie.
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IRONY alert
talk is cheap especially coming from internet-fan-boys who were NEVER at either contest ;)
to quote Bob Chick
Bob Chick GetBig Jan 15 , 2007
The judges made their decision based on what they saw live and in person. Pictures mean nothing as they can be deceiving...
no, one or two sets of comparisons can be deceiving
but countless sets and both videos? come on! ::)
thats being incredibly naive. and stupid.
if 2001 KLLS 99 as you say, it would be damn obvious in almost all the comparisons and vids.
and it isnt.
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I find ND's avoidance of comparisons between the two contests quite telling.
he knows damn well all the comparisons show that the words of a few are wrong.
and here is another one for you, just another in an endless string of comparisons, all showing the same thing:
perfect example of what I'm talking about , Hulkster the dummy hand selecting a pic to TRY and make it seem 2001 he sucked LMFAO how sad especially considering how many high quality 2001 pics there are but then again you're so desperate to TRY and prove the experts wrong you need to sink to these levels
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no, one or two sets of comparisons can be deceiving
but countless sets and both videos? come on! ::)
thats being incredibly naive. and stupid.
if 2001 KLLS 99 as you say, it would be damn obvious in almost all the comparisons and vids.
and it isnt.
yes exactly which is why 1999 Mr Olympia is considered by ALL the experts to be Ronnie's best showing ever , it's a general consensus , hey wait NO IT"S NOT LMFAO
you don't know what you're talking about , you ONLY think you do
experts own Hulkster ;)
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You don't have to worry about that, at least with me. I fully realize the situation, and who is/does what.
I'm beginning to think that Hulkster is either Ronnie himself, or certainly a man that lives vicariously through Ronnie.
lol he's on Ronnies payroll , wait no that's Ronnie's balls he's on :-X
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A Hulkster comparison
" See look at all the overwhelming evidence it's clear as day " ::)
pics are deceiving , NOTHING replaces real life and all the experts agree 2001 is better than 1999
thanks for playing Hulkster
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=289869.0;attach=329779;image)
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whats really hilarious about all this, is that we actually have VIDEOS from both contests..LOL
and what do they show? well, I think its quite clear..LMAO
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why do we still not have the pro-shot vid of ronnie's 01 AC form up on youtube?
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probably because it shows he wasn't as good as he was in 1999 8)
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probably because it shows he wasn't as good as he was in 1999 8)
You're utterly clueless. Why is it so preposterous to believe that the 01 Arnold showing was more conditioned than the '99 Olympia, considering that contest reports stated that Ronnie's condition at the 98 Olympia was dryer than '99? That serves as one more example where his '99 form was not heralded as his best ever, by people who saw him firsthand. Though I'll readily admit, that pics from the '01 Arnold, nor any contest can compare to your typical sharpened offerings. ;D
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Why is it so preposterous to believe that the 01 Arnold showing was more conditioned than the '99 Olympia
because all the pics and videos show that he wasn't. granted, he was not far off, but he was also smaller. and with a bigger gut. hence, the 99 look is better overall.
its that simple.
there is no magic to this.
if Ronnie was way softer in 99 than at the AC, you would see it IMMEDIATELY in comparing the pics and videos, just like you do in every other comparison in the history of the sport when someone is not in the best shape compared to another showing.
why are you guys insisting that this particular comparison between the two contests is somehow different than any other comparison? LOL
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You're utterly clueless.
this coming from Flowerboy's shadow aka bitch ::)
do you even read ND's posts before blindly agreeing with them? LOL
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The reason people liked ronnie's 01 form was because he had a slight layer of water (hear me out), and when he posed/flexed, amazing things happened. It was like night and day between relaxed and flexed, so it had a very dramatic effect. that's what lead people ot think so highly of his 01 form. Only a guy of ronnie's ability could make being off (relatively speaking) seem like such a cool effect, but that is the reality of it. Just watch that video. it is quite plain to see that ronnie goes from smooth to striated when flexing. very neat to watch, but not as sharp as he had previously been. 99 0 was his best, its not that hard to see. I've been to a few pro shows in my day, pics don't lie that much.... and not at all when it comes to conditioning. Pics only lie when it comes to dimension (which is why the nasser lovers don't get why dorian and ronnie destroyed him from a judging criteria... i'll admit nassers aesthetics in certain poses are impressive, but there's more to judging than aesthetics), but certainly not when it comes to conditioning.
Anyone who thinks hulksters videos are sharpened needs to check out the dvd, there's nothing altered about them at all. the only thing unnatural about that video is how peeled ronnie is.
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because all the pics and videos show that he wasn't. granted, he was not far off, but he was also smaller. and with a bigger gut. hence, the 99 look is better overall.
its that simple.
there is no magic to this.
if Ronnie was way softer in 99 than at the AC, you would see it IMMEDIATELY in comparing the pics and videos, just like you do in every other comparison in the history of the sport when someone is not in the best shape compared to another showing.
why are you guys insisting that this particular comparison between the two contests is somehow different than any other comparison? LOL
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All the experts disagree kid as usual you don't know what you're talking about you only think you do ;)
Hulkster you can NEVER EVER speak on what good conditioning is and isn't , why? because you simply don't know what you're talking about . YOU claimed Dorian at among his absolute best lost to a less conditioned Flex in 1993 PROOF POSITIVE you don't know what conditioning is
YOU have stated Dorian was never as ' grainy ' as Ronnie Coleman was in 1999 lmmfao PROOF POSITIVE you don't know what great conditioning is
YOU have stated Dorian's conditioning was nothing more than a ' myth ' PROOF POSITIVE you don't know what great conditioning is
as usual YOU are in complete denial of all the experts who were there , another arm chair quarterback who thinks he knows what he's talking about.
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You're utterly clueless. Why is it so preposterous to believe that the 01 Arnold showing was more conditioned than the '99 Olympia, considering that contest reports stated that Ronnie's condition at the 98 Olympia was dryer than '99? That serves as one more example where his '99 form was not heralded as his best ever, by people who saw him firsthand. Though I'll readily admit, that pics from the '01 Arnold, nor any contest can compare to your typical sharpened offerings. ;D
He is clueless , he's flat out wrong as usual another internet-fan-boy who thinks he's figured it all out from his PC hahahahahahah he can't get one single person to say 1999 is his best showing , hell Ronnie even said he was better conditioned in 1998 and you guessed it Hulkster the fan-boy dismissed him too lmfao
Hulkster has a long history of being wrong and being proven wrong , what's he gonna say? he has to stick to this story remember when he claimed 1999 Grand Prix Coleman was his best ever until he found out it was just the complimentary lighting lmfao now we don't hear much from him on that show anymore
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this coming from Flowerboy's shadow aka bitch ::)
do you even read ND's posts before blindly agreeing with them? LOL
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This is know when you have Hulkster when he resorts to personal attacks because he can't counter your argument , that's when you fold and admit you're just an internet-fan-boy
if anyone is my bitch it's you for getting abused for years ;)
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99 0 was his best, its not that hard to see. I've been to a few pro shows in my day, pics don't lie that much....
exactly. are you reading this Flowerboy?
Anyone who thinks hulksters videos are sharpened needs to check out the dvd, there's nothing altered about them at all. the only thing unnatural about that video is how peeled ronnie is.
thank you.
are you reading this Flowerboy?
ND is now on suicide watch.
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The reason people liked ronnie's 01 form was because he had a slight layer of water (hear me out), and when he posed/flexed, amazing things happened. It was like night and day between relaxed and flexed, so it had a very dramatic effect. that's what lead people ot think so highly of his 01 form. Only a guy of ronnie's ability could make being off (relatively speaking) seem like such a cool effect, but that is the reality of it. Just watch that video. it is quite plain to see that ronnie goes from smooth to striated when flexing. very neat to watch, but not as sharp as he had previously been. 99 0 was his best, its not that hard to see. I've been to a few pro shows in my day, pics don't lie that much.... and not at all when it comes to conditioning. Pics only lie when it comes to dimension (which is why the nasser lovers don't get why dorian and ronnie destroyed him from a judging criteria... i'll admit nassers aesthetics in certain poses are impressive, but there's more to judging than aesthetics), but certainly not when it comes to conditioning.
Anyone who thinks hulksters videos are sharpened needs to check out the dvd, there's nothing altered about them at all. the only thing unnatural about that video is how peeled ronnie is.
read carefully Flower Boy and bitches.
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IRONY alert
talk is cheap especially coming from internet-fan-boys who were NEVER at either contest ;)
to quote Bob Chick
Bob Chick GetBig Jan 15 , 2007
The judges made their decision based on what they saw live and in person. Pictures mean nothing as they can be deceiving...
Were you at these shows? Sorry I didn't realise.
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99 0 was his best, its not that hard to see.
it is if your blind and easily influenced, like ND..apparently.
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if Peter McGough argued that the sky was purple, ND would argue to the death that he was correct, regardless of what he saw when he looked outside.. ::)
that much is quite clear..
so sad. :-\
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Best arm/delt separation on any human ever. Look how the delts are sticking out lateral :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=289869.0;attach=329778;image)
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just to add insult to injury, look at how much better 99 Ronnie's lat spread was compared to his AC lat spread.
still going to claim McGough is right LOL? although you have been put in your place about that..
massive gut on the AC shot too.
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Best arm/delt separation on any human ever. Look how the delts are sticking out lateral :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=289869.0;attach=329778;image)
ronnie delts when he was at that stage in his career were unreal.
possibly the best ever.
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Best arm/delt separation on any human ever. Look how the delts are sticking out lateral
:)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/01%20ASC/2001ASC-RonnieColeman33.jpg)
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Anyone who thinks hulksters videos are sharpened needs to check out the dvd, there's nothing altered about them at all. the only thing unnatural about that video is how peeled ronnie is.
you see, the nuthuggers have been claiming (first Icecold, then ND and co.) that the 99 video footage was altered since the first time it was posted on getbig, first by forcedreps, then by others (eg. Bizzy)
they are in complete denial all because they show a physique that no one, especially dorian yates, could match.
and it has been driving them crazy.
thats why they insist on these bullshit conspiracy theories..
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Ronnie 2001 Arnold Classic best bodybuilder ever on a stage
Unbelivable!!!!!
Copy'd Vince Taylor!!!!!
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exactly. are you reading this Flowerboy?
thank you.
are you reading this Flowerboy?
ND is now on suicide watch.
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Yeah because this nullifies all the experts ::)
I have the DVD sorry and Kevin Horton exposed Bizzy and YOUR screencaps eons ago , old news you're so desperate you'll cling to anyone who agrees with you ;)
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Were you at these shows? Sorry I didn't realise.
hahahaha out comes all the Ronnie fan-boys
and NO I wasn't at either of these contests to answer your question HOWEVER I'm not telling the people who were they are wrong ;) and if you were at these shows as well feel free to share your opinion
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What does it matter which show was Ronnie's his best? How does that relate to your years-long debate of Ronnie vs. Dorian? Why would you guys argue for pages and pages over which of two shows was his best?
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if Peter McGough argued that the sky was purple, ND would argue to the death that he was correct, regardless of what he saw when he looked outside.. ::)
that much is quite clear..
so sad. :-\
Exactly what Hulkster is doing telling ALL the experts they're wrong and he's right sitting at home on his PC
and it isn't just McGough , It's Merrit , Jim Schmatltz , Shawn Perine , Team Flex , who ALL concur 2001 was his best showing and Ronnie Coleman HIMSELF who all says 1998 was his best Olympia , you're arguing with experts kid as usual
what's sad is internet-fan-boys telling the people who were there they are wrong ;)
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you see, the nuthuggers have been claiming (first Icecold, then ND and co.) that the 99 video footage was altered since the first time it was posted on getbig, first by forcedreps, then by others (eg. Bizzy)
they are in complete denial all because they show a physique that no one, especially dorian yates, could match.
and it has been driving them crazy.
thats why they insist on these bullshit conspiracy theories..
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I never once claimed forcereps video was fake LIE NUMBER ONE if you can find me where I claimed this feel free LIAR ;) has nothing to do with Yates
Bizzy's video and screencaps were worked and proven so by Kevin Horton the best contest photograher in the business and as usual YOU'RE IN DENIAL with the experts
Kevin Horton PROVING YOU used manipulated screencaps of Ronnie from the 1999 Mr Olympia
owned
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What does it matter which show was Ronnie's his best? How does that relate to your years-long debate of Ronnie vs. Dorian? Why would you guys argue for pages and pages over which of two shows was his best?
It's a matter of who is right ( ME ) and who is wrong ( Hulkster ) it relates because as usual Hulkster doesn't know what he's talking about as usual and is always in opposition of people who were actually there
I'm right and he's wrong and I enjoy proving him wrong and will continue to point out his stupidity as long as he continues to type ;D
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just to add insult to injury, look at how much better 99 Ronnie's lat spread was compared to his AC lat spread.
still going to claim McGough is right LOL? although you have been put in your place about that..
massive gut on the AC shot too.
It's not McGough alone it's a TON of people and once again Hulkster the fan-boy thinks he's knows what he's talking about lol I love your stupidity
even Ronnie Coleman doesn't agree with you that's the best part
typical Hulkster post a high quality 99 pic and a mediocre one from 01 and say ' see I'm proving everyone wrong ' lmfao
because you were there ;)
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were you there?
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were you there?
Question has been answered ;)
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just to add insult to injury, look at how much better 99 Ronnie's lat spread was compared to his AC lat spread.
still going to claim McGough is right LOL? although you have been put in your place about that..
massive gut on the AC shot too.
He looks drier, fuller and more conditioned in the 01 AC shot. You always post pics that disprove your own claims, Hulkster ;D
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your sarcasm is noted 8)
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Yeah because this nullifies all the experts
no, real life does that quite easily:
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no, real life does that quite easily:
you weren't there so don't presume to speak on ' real life ' your carefully selected comparisons prove how little you know.
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the thing is, this isnt about which physique was better 99 or 01
its more complicated than that.
its about the opinions of a few that are proven to be incorrect based on all visual evidence out there.
sure they were there. but they were mistaken if they believe he was better in 01 than in 99.
you can be at the contest, view it from row 3054950439 and you may think your opinion is right, until you get a closer look (via close up pics and videos)
and its also about ND's blind support for Peter McGough.
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you weren't there so don't presume to speak on ' real life ' your carefully selected comparisons prove how little you know.
LOL carefully selected? hahahahaha
what a laugh.
they are excellent comparisons.
your just pissed because they show your creed to be wrong.
and you hate it.
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the thing is, this isnt about which physique was better 99 or 01
its more complicated than that.
its about the opinions of a few that are proven to be incorrect based on all visual evidence out there.
sure they were there. but they were mistaken if they believe he was better in 01 than in 99.
you can be at the contest, view it from row 3054950439 and you may think your opinion is right, until you get a closer look (via close up pics and videos)
and its also about ND's blind support for Peter McGough.
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same spiel , you don't even knows what great conditioning is so you can't speak on the topic .
when one claims Ronnie 99 was grainier than Dorian ever was taking your opinion seriously ends and all that is left is ridicule
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Exactly what Hulkster is doing telling ALL the experts they're wrong and he's right sitting at home on his PC
no, sorry. I'm not telling them anything.
the pics and both VIDEOS tells the whole story.
too bad it works against your agenda.
funny, pics and vids always seem to work against your agenda.
ever notice that? I do.
you are always saying that the pics and vids are wrong and lie.
funny. I wonder why. LOL
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LOL carefully selected? hahahahaha
what a laugh.
they are excellent comparisons.
your just pissed because they show your creed to be wrong.
and you hate it.
youtube compressed videos compared to dvd screencaps only in your imaginary delusion world is this fair
keep denying the facts it's all you have left
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the pics, videos and testimony from a fellow getbigger who has been at pro shows has put the Flowerboy in his garden lol
and its driving him nuts.
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youtube compressed videos compared to dvd screencaps only in your imaginary delusion world is this fair
keep denying the facts it's all you have left
uh oh.
ND is breaking out the excuses for the pics and vids again~!
gee, how rare LOL
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the pics, videos and testimony from a fellow getbigger who has been at pro shows has put the Flowerboy in his garden lol
and its driving him nuts.
meltdown GetBiggers now matter more than paid experts , epic bottom of the barrel scrapping for ANYONE who will agree with you
McGough , Merritt , Perine , Schmatz and Team Flex means nothing ONE guy on GetBig does LMFAO
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uh oh.
ND is breaking out the excuses for the pics and vids again~!
gee, how rare LOL
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yeah because it's not like your guilty of knowingly using ENHANCED screencaps and posting slanted comparisons ;)
no excuses needed NOT one single professional in the industry agrees with you or your lone GetBig buddy in the end you're claiming to know more via pics than someone was there lol right up your ally of stupidity nothing new
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no, sorry. I'm not telling them anything.
the pics and both VIDEOS tells the whole story.
too bad it works against your agenda.
funny, pics and vids always seem to work against your agenda.
ever notice that? I do.
you are always saying that the pics and vids are wrong and lie.
funny. I wonder why. LOL
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the fact that you think pics and video trump actually being there shows how stupid you are , and the best part is you don't even know how contests are judged , what constitutes great conditioning , etc , etc , etc
you see what you want and it's usually wrong , Dorian lost in 93 , Ronnie was grainer than Dorian , etc , etc , etc ;)
the experts own you kid , keep denying it's all you have ;D
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Hulkster : Ronnie's best showing is 1999 Mr Olympia
but the experts don't agree
Hulkster : who cares what they think I seen the pics and video
but they were there
Hulkster : who cares I seen the pics
but they were feet from Ronnie at all of his contests
Hulkster : so what they're wrong , I'm right I figured it all out sitting at home on my PC how different can it be >
multiple people who have seen Ronnie compete at all his contests agree 99 isn't his best
Hulkster : they're all wrong pics and video don't lie
but these people are experts paid to review contests
Hulkster : I seen the pics and video they're wrong
they experts agree Dorian was better conditioned
Hulkster : NO Ronnie was grainier than Dorian ever was
no one ever described Ronnie as grainy
Hulkster : pics and video don't lie see
you're a broken record in denial and direct opposition of all the experts , see how stupid you sound? ;)
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flowerboy is melting down!
hahaaha I love it
he knows damn well every shot from the contest and every video shows he was not quite as good as he was at the 99 O. and there is nothing flowerboy can do about it, except meltdown on his PC
hahahahahaahaha
life is good 8)
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So, now that we know ND feels that the experts (not the pics and vids) are always right,
what does he say to all the experts saying (like McGough) that Ronnie at his best is the greatest ever (better than dorian) and has the greatest back ever (better than dorian)
oh dear. whats Flowerboy going to do now?
???
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So, now that we know ND feels that the experts (not the pics and vids) are always right,
what does he say to all the experts saying (like McGough) that Ronnie at his best is the greatest ever (better than dorian) and has the greatest back ever (better than dorian)
oh dear. whats Flowerboy going to do now?
???
Oh Mr Hypocrite will agree with the experts when it suits his purposes but when they directly contradict them they are wrong Hulkster is right ::)
the experts are right when they agree that Ronnie is better but wrong when they say his best showing isn't 99 or he isn't better conditioned lol
run along kid you have nothing as usual 2001 is his best showing back up your claims like I have , we're all waiting ;)
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flowerboy is melting down!
hahaaha I love it
he knows damn well every shot from the contest and every video shows he was not quite as good as he was at the 99 O. and there is nothing flowerboy can do about it, except meltdown on his PC
hahahahahaahaha
life is good 8)
back up your position ;) with experts and NOT a few carefully selected pics and say ' see ' and good luck
Ronnie Coleman | 1999
In his first defense of the Mr. O title, Coleman exhibited size, condition and sinew-splitting fullness he lacked a year earlier. At 257 pounds, he was so separated that he looked like a walking anatomy chart. That being said, I still think he achieved his best-ever physique for the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic.
Flex Magazine August 2003
Jim Schmatltz on Ronnie chances of winning six Olympias in a row
if he repeats his 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic form, he'll experience the joy of six.
Shawn Perine Ironage Dec 11, 2004
As much as I love Haney and my IA champs, I think Ronnie circa '98 or at the 2001 Arnold is pretty much untouchable. Except by Dorian Yates 6 weeks out from the '93 O as photographed by our own KMH. Both men, on those specific occasions carried so much dry muscle mass in good proportion and with good lines that it's almost unfair to compare them to others.
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What does it matter which show was Ronnie's his best? How does that relate to your years-long debate of Ronnie vs. Dorian? Why would you guys argue for pages and pages over which of two shows was his best?
Maybe since team yates lost the debate, they are now arguing on which show Ronnie looked his best
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this coming from Flowerboy's shadow aka bitch ::)
do you even read ND's posts before blindly agreeing with them? LOL
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Huckster, with the way you routinely get owned, you're this entire boards bottom bitch.
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Maybe since team yates lost the debate, they are now arguing on which show Ronnie looked his best
Ronnie concedes he could never beat Dorian , YOU LOSE ;) your own hero doesn't agree with you
thanks for playing though
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Huckster, with the way you routinely get owned, you're this entire boards bottom bitch.
He wishes he was Ronnie's power bottom :-X
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obviously I continue to lose respect for both Hulkster and ND as they continue down this path.
That being said, at least Hulkster is on the winning side of the argument. Arguing Dorian is better than Ronnie is a losing argument every time.
And as far as Ronnie 99 vs 2001, it appears from the visuals posted that 99 ronnie indeed was better. Other people say in 2001 he was better. It's a matter of opinion.
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obviously I continue to lose respect for both Hulkster and ND as they continue down this path.
That being said, at least Hulkster is on the winning side of the argument. Arguing Dorian is better than Ronnie is a losing argument every time.
And as far as Ronnie 99 vs 2001, it appears from the visuals posted that 99 ronnie indeed was better. Other people say in 2001 he was better. It's a matter of opinion.
And yet every time they faced each other in competition, Ronnie was on the losing end, every time. ::)
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obviously I continue to lose respect for both Hulkster and ND as they continue down this path.
That being said, at least Hulkster is on the winning side of the argument. Arguing Dorian is better than Ronnie is a losing argument every time.
And as far as Ronnie 99 vs 2001, it appears from the visuals posted that 99 ronnie indeed was better. Other people say in 2001 he was better. It's a matter of opinion.
lmao the gimmicks are out on full force tonight
it's a matter of conditioning that separates 1999 and 2001 that's not a matter of opinion and Ronnie doesn't agree with Hulkster or any other guy so he loses via his own hero all that is left is gimmick accounts and denial , ohhh and chasing me around
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And yet every time they faced each other in competition, Ronnie was on the losing end, every time. ::)
The very best part is even after Ronnie became The greatest bodybuilder who ever lived he STILL said he wouldn't beat Dorian , this ends anything they have to day and this kills them every time
everyone's opinions is law , true and fact with the sole exception of Ronnie himself lmfao
I believe they call that check mate in chess ;D
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back up your position ;) with experts and NOT a few carefully selected pics and say ' see ' and good luck
Flex Magazine August 2003
Jim Schmatltz on Ronnie chances of winning six Olympias in a row
if he repeats his 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic form, he'll experience the joy of six.
You can't use Schmaltz quote as an "expert opinion" on AC01 shape being Ronnie's best ever. He's not making such claim.
He's only saying that the AC shape would have been sufficient to win number six.
Faulty logic.
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You can't use Schmaltz quote as an "expert opinion" on AC01 shape being Ronnie's best ever. He's not making such claim.
He's only saying that the AC shape would have been sufficient to win number six.
Faulty logic.
He was on Team Flex when they said 2001 was his best showing ever , NO faulty logic
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He was on Team Flex when they said 2001 was his best showing ever , NO faulty logic
I don't really believe every statement of "Team Flex" is unanimously approved. Do you believe so?
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I don't really believe every statement of "Team Flex" is unanimously approved. Do you believe so?
they all give their opinions and the general consensus among most experts is Ronnie's best showing is the 2001 arnold classic in fact some have said it's the best physique ever seen
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That being said, at least Hulkster is on the winning side of the argument. Arguing Dorian is better than Ronnie is a losing argument every time.
And as far as Ronnie 99 vs 2001, it appears from the visuals posted that 99 ronnie indeed was better. Other people say in 2001 he was better. It's a matter of opinion.
well said. ND is always arguing against what the pics and vids show..
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and Ronnie doesn't agree with Hulkster or any other guy so he loses via his own hero
what makes you think Ronnie has to be right? McGough isn't, so why is it that Ronnie is automatically correct?
hell, dorian argues 95 was his best shape, and he is full of shit - his arm was torn in 95 and looked terrible. 93 was much better.
even dorian and ronnie can have fucked up opinions about their own physiques.\
just because they state it does not make it true, particularly when the visuals show otherwise.
everyone can see that.
(except you) ::)
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well said. ND is always arguing against what the pics and vids show..
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And you're always arguing against the opinions of those that were at the contests in person. ::) I guess if you want to be more convincing in your argument, you'll have to work harder with the sharpening tool. lol
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The greatest bodybuilder who ever lived he STILL said he wouldn't beat Dorian , this ends anything they have to day and this kills them every time
so, a direct comment on the politics of the day ends a debate about who's physique is better?
LOL
the two are completely independent of each other.
history has shown that who wins a contest and who has the best physique at a contest are two very different things in the world of bodybuilding..
everyone on this board should know that by now..
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so, a direct comment on the politics of the day ends a debate about who's physique is better?
LOL
the two are completely independent of each other.
history has shown that who wins a contest and who has the best physique at a contest are two very different things in the world of bodybuilding..
everyone on this board should know that by now..
Likewise, this should apply to Ronnie's wins as well.
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So too then, should this apply to Ronnie's wins as well.
some would say so. but they had better base it on the visuals, not just the perception alone that ronnie should have lost.
that being the case, the visuals don't always show it to be cut and dry though.
if you look at 2001, the big contraversial year, it was damn close, thanks to ronnie's incredible back..
whats funny is that ronnie never stood onstage with his competition and got beaten by everyone at once.
unlike dorian, as shown here: hahahaha
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that pic is hilarious because even shawns lat spread looks better than dorian's most muscular, mainly due to his cut as hell lower body.
dorian's mm was awful. I don't know why he chose to hit it so much.
I mean, how many ab shots does ronnie do unless asked for by the judges? almost none.
yet, dorian feels the need to showcase his not so great arms/chest/delts by hitting most muscular after most muscular LOL ???
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what makes you think Ronnie has to be right? McGough isn't, so why is it that Ronnie is automatically correct?
hell, dorian argues 95 was his best shape, and he is full of shit - his arm was torn in 95 and looked terrible. 93 was much better.
even dorian and ronnie can have fucked up opinions about their own physiques.\
just because they state it does not make it true, particularly when the visuals show otherwise.
everyone can see that.
(except you) ::)
What makes you think for one moment YOU are right ? stupidity & ignorance ;) McGough also said 95 was Yates best as well and as usual , Hulkster can't get anything right ;)
again YOU don't know what you're looking for when you look at the visuals , case in point? Ronnie has more detailed calves than Dorian and Ronnie was grainier than Dorian ever was , you see fantasy when you look at pics just like Dorian lost in 1993 , these are just some examples of the conclusions you came to after looking at the visual ;)
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And you're always arguing against the opinions of those that were at the contests in person. ::) I guess if you want to be more convincing in your argument, you'll have to work harder with the sharpening tool. lol
Great post , every single person who was there is wrong and internet-fan-boys are right lol
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some would say so. but they had better base it on the visuals, not just the perception alone that ronnie should have lost.
that being the case, the visuals don't always show it to be cut and dry though.
if you look at 2001, the big contraversial year, it was damn close, thanks to ronnie's incredible back..
whats funny is that ronnie never stood onstage with his competition and got beaten by everyone at once.
unlike dorian, as shown here: hahahaha
2001 a contest which you claimed Ronnie dominated by losing the whole prejudging another example of how delusional you are and flat-out wrong after looking at the visuals ;)
once again Kevin Horton crushing your bullshit claim that Dorian should have lost in 92 , yet another example of you making a claim that contradicts the experts and reality ;)
it must suck that you can't back up one single claim of yours , I wouldn't know tell me how that feels ;)
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Hulkster still waiting for your to back up your claim with experts testimony ;)
tick-tock-tick-tock ;D
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2001 a contest which you claimed Ronnie dominated by losing the whole prejudging another example of how delusional you are and flat-out wrong after looking at the visuals
he should NOT have lost the prejuding in the first place.
thats what you dont get. ::)
you think that the judges scores are always 100% accurate and everyone knows that is hardly the case..
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Hulkster still waiting for your to back up your claim with experts testimony ;)
tick-tock-tick-tock ;D
again, you miss the whole point of what everyone is trying to tell you in this thread. ::)
the 'expert testimony' is not always correct, as the videos and pics show..
oh, by the way, do you think that I carefully selected and hand picked the two videos? LOL
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again, you miss the whole point of what everyone is trying to tell you in this thread. ::)
the 'expert testimony' is not always correct, as the videos and pics show..
oh, by the way, do you think that I carefully selected and hand picked the two videos? LOL
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No , no internet-fan-boys are correct and paid experts who were in attendance are all wrong ::) people who weren't even there are telling the people who were they're flat out wrong , this is exactly the reason I call you a dummy
the videos show exactly why the experts say 2001 is his best showing YOU see what you want like a ' grainy ' Ronnie and a Dorian who lost in 1993 ;)
We're all still waiting for the avalanche of experts sayings 1999 is better than 2001 ........................ .. ;)
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he should have lost the prejuding in the first place.
thats what you dont get. ::)
you think that the judges scores are always 100% accurate and everyone knows that is hardly the case..
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So you're admitting he should have lost the prejudging yet your original claim is he dominated the contest LMMFAO
it's so easy to lead you down the path and trap you in your own bullshit :D
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http://www.musclemecca.com/showthread.php/99-coleman-everyone-else-4268.html?t=4268
as ND fails to see, lots of people believe 99 Ronnie was his best.
its just that ND dismisses all of them just like he dismisses all the pics and all videos LMAO
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this is the sort of person we are dealing with.
when faced with the real visual truth, he just sticks his head in the sand and hopes it will all magically go away.. ::)
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So you're admitting he should have lost the prejudging yet your original claim is he dominated the contest LMMFAO
it's so easy to lead you down the path and trap you in your own bullshit :D
typo. he should NOT have lost the prejudging in the first place.
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We're all still waiting for the avalanche of experts sayings 1999 is better than 2001 ........................
what you fail to see is that it doesn't mean anything given the videos and pics.
if all experts say the sky is purple and you see real pics and videos of it being blue, its blue.
no matter what they say.
talk is cheap.
this isn't the flowershop ND. this is the real world.
humans are often wrong and easily influenced.
you should know. your the most easily influenced poster on this whole board.
you have made a career of blindly following the (often incorrect) words of others (eg McGough) without ever formulating your own opinions based on the real visual truth.
sad sad sad.
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http://www.musclemecca.com/showthread.php/99-coleman-everyone-else-4268.html?t=4268
as ND fails to see, lots of people believe 99 Ronnie was his best.
its just that ND dismisses all of them just like he dismisses all the pics and all videos LMAO
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this is the sort of person we are dealing with.
when faced with the real visual truth, he just sticks his head in the sand and hopes it will all magically go away.. ::)
Oh the old argument ad populum once again rears it's ugly head LMFAO I can always count on you for faulty logic ;D
a bunch of internet-fan-boys are correct and the paid experts who were live are all wrong , Gotcha ;)
next
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what you fail to see is that it doesn't mean anything given the videos and pics.
if all experts say the sky is purple and you see real pics and videos of it being blue, its blue.
no matter what they say.
talk is cheap.
this isn't the flowershop ND. this is the real world.
humans are often wrong and easily influenced.
you should know. your the most easily influenced poster on this whole board.
you have made a career of blindly following the (often incorrect) words of others (eg McGough) without ever formulating your own opinions based on the real visual truth.
sad sad sad.
more of the same nonsense , typical Hulkster
all the experts are wrong , I'm right , look , look , look , you work at a flowershop , everyone says 99 is better so we all can't be wrong
keep trying to rewrite history ;D
We're all still waiting for the avalanche of experts who agree with you , when pressed with presenting proof Hulkster can't produce any so what does he do? say the experts are liars , wrong and blind lol you're the biggest idiot I ever met in my life and I will continue to point this out ;)
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typo. he should NOT have lost the prejudging in the first place.
lmfao thanks for sharing more of your ignorance ;D thanks for proving my point
it's no wonder why Kevin Horton called you r a retard ;)
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I'm still waiting for the smoking gun - the visuals that shows how much better Ronnie was in 2001 than in 99. it should be immediately apparent and all over the place.
however
so far, with all the pics and footage, none exists.
gee, I wonder why..
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can ND produce any? not bloody likely.
and there is a perfectly valid reason for that.
one that he cannot come to terms with..
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ND is reducing the sport to nothing but (the often incorrect) opinions of a few people.
totally disregarding videos, photos you name it.
how stupid.. :-\
thats not how this sport works.
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I'm still waiting for the smoking gun - the visuals that shows how much better Ronnie was in 2001 than in 99. it should be immediately apparent and all over the place.
however
so far, with all the pics and footage, none exists.
gee, I wonder why..
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can ND produce any? not bloody likely.
and there is a perfectly valid reason for that.
one that he cannot come to terms with..
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More poor logic from GetBig's resident retard , when pushed for proof you try some lame attempt at diversion claiming ALL the experts in attendance were all wrong and the same kid who watched vids and pics came to the conclusion Ronnie 99 easily passed Dorian at being grainy and Dorian lost in 1993
you know what? NOTHING keep trying to rewrite history , I'll ridicule you in the process
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Visual PROOF 2001 kicks 1999 ass ;)
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Ronnie must have decided he wouldn't mind a Hummer and an extra hundred grand in his checking account, so he broke tradition and competed at the Arnold Classic in March, winning handily at a ripped and streamlined 250 pounds. To this day, there are still many who consider this the best 'look' Ronnie has ever displayed, as his waist was tight, he was thick and full all over, and his condition was spot-on.
hahahahahah This is from Ronnie's own website
Hulkster = owned again by his own hero
I love it ;D
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Visual PROOF 2001 kicks 1999 ass ;)
dude, he's obviously not close to being fully flexed in both those pics. ronnie's glutes haven't been that un-striated since... well since he retired.
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So I guess according to Hulkster we shouldn't even have the bodybuilders pose in front of judges. We should simply have them pose in pics and videos since according to him they are all that matters. You cannot judge by pics and vids. Do you really think that all pics are not touched up? I guarantee you they sharpen and lighten or darken pics so they look good when put up on sites. I've gone to shows and seen guys look ok at best and then seen posted pics later and they all of a sudden look great. It's not an accurate way to judge. But I guess thats all Hulkster has. He truly is the biggest Ronnie guy.
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So I guess according to Hulkster we shouldn't even have the bodybuilders pose in front of judges. We should simply have them pose in pics and videos since according to him they are all that matters. You cannot judge by pics and vids. Do you really think that all pics are not touched up? I guarantee you they sharpen and lighten or darken pics so they look good when put up on sites. I've gone to shows and seen guys look ok at best and then seen posted pics later and they all of a sudden look great. It's not an accurate way to judge. But I guess thats all Hulkster has. He truly is the biggest Ronnie guy.
Hahahahah Great post !
It's true he actually once claimed that he was just as qualified to judge contests at home on his pc than the actual judges are who are in attendance ::)
he's the biggest moron when it comes to competitive bodybuilding
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Ronnie must have decided he wouldn't mind a Hummer and an extra hundred grand in his checking account, so he broke tradition and competed at the Arnold Classic in March, winning handily at a ripped and streamlined 250 pounds. To this day, there are still many who consider this the best 'look' Ronnie has ever displayed, as his waist was tight, he was thick and full all over, and his condition was spot-on.
hahahahahah This is from Ronnie's own website
Hulkster = owned again by his own hero
I love it ;D
Next, Huckster will be claiming someone hacked Ronnie's site and posted false information. lol
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I guarantee you they sharpen and lighten or darken pics so they look good when put up on sites
lol so now the only reason he looks better in 99 is because they are sharpened up right?
and the video too? LOL
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do you guys believe aliens landed in roswell?
that the americans were behind 9/11?
lol
your conspiracy theories have no merit here. sorry.
only real life has merit, something you are all in denial about..
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Next, Huckster will be claiming someone hacked Ronnie's site and posted false information. lol
funny coming from a guy who believes every video and pic from the 99 olympia is faked..
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dude, he's obviously not close to being fully flexed in both those pics. ronnie's glutes haven't been that un-striated since... well since he retired.
you do realize the level of intellect we are dealing with dont you?
its sad.
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funny coming from a guy who believes every video and pic from the 99 olympia is faked..
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Show me where I said that. And it's ironic you calling anyone a "guy", being that you'd bend over at the first sight of Ronnie.
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So I guess according to Hulkster we shouldn't even have the bodybuilders pose in front of judges. We should simply have them pose in pics and videos since according to him they are all that matters. You cannot judge by pics and vids
no one is saying only judge contests by pics and vids.
but answer this question:
in every other instance in the history of the sport, if a competitor shows up in not as good of shape as he did in another contest, that fact is immediately apparent in pics and videos from the contest.
every time. always. thats the way real life works. you see it right away.
eg. compare dorian 97 to 93, compare ronnie 99 to Ronnie 2004, compare Kevin Levrone from 92 to 2003 etc etc etc.
tell us, why do the visuals not show the same from ronnie 2001 AC to 99?
after all, you morons are claiming that "2001 KILLED 99"?
explain. particularly the videos from the contest. this I would love to know your answer to.
your fucked. you can't get around this.
but I am going to enjoy seeing you squirm as you try :P
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lol so now the only reason he looks better in 99 is because they are sharpened up right?
and the video too? LOL
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do you guys believe aliens landed in roswell?
that the americans were behind 9/11?
lol
your conspiracy theories have no merit here. sorry.
only real life has merit, something you are all in denial about..
No I'm not saying that but you are an idiot if you think photographers don't sharpen up their pics before they are posted. I saw Ronnie at the 98 O and yeah he looked incredible. It was close however between him and Flex (don't go posting useless pics comparing the two because as I said pics mean very little). I'm sure Ronnie was unreal in 99. I only have pics to go by for that show since I wasn't there. But I guarantee you the pics and how he looked on stage will vary even if it's only by a slight margin. The same goes for Dorian pics. Now post some pics that fans took from their own digital cam and then MAYBE you can make some kind of judgment. Ever wonder why people when they post their pics always say "pics suck cuz I got a shitty camera?" It's because they do have a crap camera and dont know how to touch up the pics to make them look better. You HAVE TO SEE THEM IN PERSON!
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no one is saying only judge contests by pics and vids.
but answer this question:
in every other instance in the history of the sport, if a competitor shows up in not as good of shape as he did in another contest, that fact is immediately apparent in pics and videos from the contest.
every time. always. thats the way real life works. you see it right away.
eg. compare dorian 97 to 93, compare ronnie 99 to Ronnie 2004, compare Kevin Levrone from 92 to 2003 etc etc etc.
tell us, why do the visuals not show the same from ronnie 2001 AC to 99?
after all, you morons are claiming that "2001 KILLED 99"?
explain. particularly the videos from the contest. this I would love to know your answer to.
your fucked. you can't get around this.
but I am going to enjoy seeing you squirm as you try :P
I didn't say they alter the pics to COMPLETELY alter their conditioning. You can only do so much so ofcourse there will be a difference between 99 and 01 duh! I also never said I though Ronnie was better in 01 than in 99, you have me confused with someone else. I don't see how you can think you are an expert when it's obvious you only go by pics and haven't seen a show in person.
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this whole debate is so stupid, considering the fact that we have two VIDEOS showing his condition at both contests.
its not like we have a pic here or a pic there.
no, we have two fucking VIDEOS that do a great job of showing what he looked like onstage..
and they can be compared easily, directly and with validity..
when the 'experts' were sitting there watching Ronnie in 01, how do we know they had a correct recollection of what ronnie looked like in 99? how do we know they weren't influenced by the fact that "oh my God, Mr. O. is competing in the AC!" like I said before?
you don't realize the human aspect of all this.
the footage is not influence by this. the footage doesnt have to recall what ronnie looked like. it doesnt care. it is what it is.
thats why videos are used as evidence in courts.
thats why the videos of the two contests tell all.
even though its not what the nuthuggers want to hear... ::)
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Ever wonder why people when they post their pics always say "pics suck cuz I got a shitty camera?" It's because they do have a crap camera and dont know how to touch up the pics to make them look better. You HAVE TO SEE THEM IN PERSON!
I have seen pros up close and in person. they are massive, pics don't do them justice, thats for sure.
but the reason why people say "crap pics" is because they have crappy camers (or cell phone cameras) as you say.
problem is, the AC video and the 99 Olympia vid are not done by people with crappy cameras.
so that argument goes out the window.
ronnie was better in 99. thats just something that is true as shown.
and we have to deal with it. much to ND's dismay LOL
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this whole debate is so stupid, considering the fact that we have two VIDEOS showing his condition at both contests.
its not like we have a pic here or a pic there.
no, we have two fucking VIDEOS that do a great job of showing what he looked like onstage..
and they can be compared easily, directly and with validity..
when the 'experts' were sitting there watching Ronnie in 01, how do we know they had a correct recollection of what ronnie looked like in 99? how do we know they weren't influenced by the fact that "oh my God, Mr. O. is competing in the AC!" like I said before?
you don't realize the human aspect of all this.
the footage is not influence by this. the footage doesnt have to recall what ronnie looked like. it doesnt care. it is what it is.
thats why videos are used as evidence in courts.
thats why the videos of the two contests tell all.
even though its not what the nuthuggers want to hear... ::)
The problem isn't with the pics and video the problem is YOU , it's a proven FACT you don't have the first clue on what great conditioning is . after viewing the pics and video YOU came to the conclusion Ronnie at the 99 Olympia easily surpassed Dorian at looking grainy , YOU after looking at the pics and video came to the conclusion Dorian lost in 1993 to Flex Wheeler , YOU after looking at the pics and video came to the conclusion Ronnie 99 has more detailed calves than Dorian ever did , its YOU who after looking at the pics and video came to the conclusion Dorian's conditioning was nothing more than a myth
you don't know what you're talking about case closed , you constantly contradict those who do and have the stupidity to claim they are wrong and you are right HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH the height of ignorance
you can't back up your position and never could all you can do is say ' see '
Ronnie must have decided he wouldn't mind a Hummer and an extra hundred grand in his checking account, so he broke tradition and competed at the Arnold Classic in March, winning handily at a ripped and streamlined 250 pounds. To this day, there are still many who consider this the best 'look' Ronnie has ever displayed, as his waist was tight, he was thick and full all over, and his condition was spot-on.
from Ronnie's own website ;)
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Show me where I said that. And it's ironic you calling anyone a "guy", being that you'd bend over at the first sight of Ronnie.
he can't show you were you said that because he's a LIAR and makes shit up when faced with facts . he tries the same shit with anyone even Kevin Horton , he's already been busted using photoshopped pics , I busted him twice outright making up quotes , he has nothing and when pushed to back up his claims he just doesn't respond
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I have seen pros up close and in person. they are massive, pics don't do them justice, thats for sure.
but the reason why people say "crap pics" is because they have crappy camers (or cell phone cameras) as you say.
problem is, the AC video and the 99 Olympia vid are not done by people with crappy cameras.
so that argument goes out the window.
ronnie was better in 99. thats just something that is true as shown.
and we have to deal with it. much to ND's dismay LOL
YOU NEVER SEEN RONNIE COLEMAN and you never seen him in 1999 and 2001 and then you have the balls to say those who did are wrong and you are right
you seen what you want and you simply CAN NOT back up your claim , it's an empty claim like every thing you type
Ronnie must have decided he wouldn't mind a Hummer and an extra hundred grand in his checking account, so he broke tradition and competed at the Arnold Classic in March, winning handily at a ripped and streamlined 250 pounds. To this day, there are still many who consider this the best 'look' Ronnie has ever displayed, as his waist was tight, he was thick and full all over, and his condition was spot-on.
Ronnie's website ;)
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YOU NEVER SEEN RONNIE COLEMAN and you never seen him in 1999 and 2001 and then you have the balls to say those who did are wrong and you are right
no, real life shows they are wrong quite easily and nicely..
not me. sorry.
I love how you say "I have the balls" as if what we are saying is somehow unlikely.
meanwhile, we have tons of pics and two great VIDEOS from the contests to support the obvious truth that we are saying LOL
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no, real life shows they are wrong quite easily and nicely..
not me. sorry.
I love how you say "I have the balls" as if what we are saying is somehow unlikely.
meanwhile, we have tons of pics and two great VIDEOS from the contests to support the obvious truth that we are saying LOL
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Who's we? all the follow dummies who were NEVER at either contest ? morons
Ronnie must have decided he wouldn't mind a Hummer and an extra hundred grand in his checking account, so he broke tradition and competed at the Arnold Classic in March, winning handily at a ripped and streamlined 250 pounds. To this day, there are still many who consider this the best 'look' Ronnie has ever displayed, as his waist was tight, he was thick and full all over, and his condition was spot-on.
Ronnie's website ;)
you can't beat that moron ;)
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its funny how all your arguments (whether its this or the dorian stuff) is all based on quotes that don`t even match up to the any of the pics and vids. the pics and vids all show the opposite story (ie the real truth, not human error)
what a weak argument given the nature of this sport (based on visuals)
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no, real life shows they are wrong quite easily and nicely..
not me. sorry.
I love how you say "I have the balls" as if what we are saying is somehow unlikely.
meanwhile, we have tons of pics and two great VIDEOS from the contests to support the obvious truth that we are saying LOL
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So pics and vids are "real life" as you call it, where as witnessing the contest first hand is to be disregarded? Your stupidity abounds.
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So pics and vids are "real life" as you call it, where as witnessing the contest first hand is to be disregarded? Your stupidity abounds.
humans make errors in judgement. videos don't. thats the point.
eg. if you are sitting at the AC, blown away you might be thinking that ronnie's shape was his best ever. However, had you went and saw shots/footage of the 99 Olympia would change your mind quickly.
you morons should note that the same thing happened at the 2003 olympia. immediately after the show, people that were there were freaking out, saying it was ronnie's best etc.
however, once people looked with a more informed eye, it was quite clear he was better at the AC, in 98, 99 etc.
you guys really need a lesson in human psychology. among many other things.
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its funny how all your arguments (whether its this or the dorian stuff) is all based on quotes that don`t even match up to the any of the pics and vids. the pics and vids all show the opposite story (ie the real truth, not human error)
what a weak argument given the nature of this sport (based on visuals)
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based on visuals LIVE AND IN PERSON you weren't there and your don't know what the fuck you're talking about to begin with after looking at the visuals
Ronnie was grainier than Dorian ever as you came to this conclusion after looking at the visuals
Ronnie's calves were more detailed than Dorians you came to this conclusion after looking at the visuals
Dorian lost the 93 Olympia THE MOST DOMINATING WIN in the contests history you came to this conclusion after looking at the visuals
Dorian's conditioning was a myth you came to this conclusion after looking at the visuals
you know NOTHING old news .....next
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So pics and vids are "real life" as you call it, where as witnessing the contest first hand is to be disregarded? Your stupidity abounds.
You have to love his backwards retard logic , can anyone be so dumb as to claim pics are more accurate than being there? LMMFAO
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humans make errors in judgement. videos don't. thats the point.
eg. if you are sitting at the AC, blown away you might be thinking that ronnie's shape was his best ever. However, had you went and saw shots/footage of the 99 Olympia would change your mind quickly.
you morons should note that the same thing happened at the 2003 olympia. immediately after the show, people that were there were freaking out, saying it was ronnie's best etc.
however, once people looked with a more informed eye, it was quite clear he was better at the AC, in 98, 99 etc.
you guys really need a lesson in human psychology. among many other things.
videos led you to the following conclusions
Ronnie was grainier than Dorian ever as you came to this conclusion after looking at the visuals
Ronnie's calves were more detailed than Dorians you came to this conclusion after looking at the visuals
Dorian lost the 93 Olympia THE MOST DOMINATING WIN in the contests history you came to this conclusion after looking at the visuals
Dorian's conditioning was a myth you came to this conclusion after looking at the visuals
you're ignorant and blind bad combo
back up your claims via experts eyewitnesses still waiting ;)
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still waiting for the visuals to back up your claim that 'ronnie 2001 KILLS 99" ::)
hint: if the two damn videos didn't show it, nothing ever will.
because 2001 was not better than 99.
end of story.
oh, and by the way, Ronnie's gut was signficantly worse at the 2001 AC (and 2000 olympia for that matter) than it was in 99.
too bad your eye witnesses didnt pick up on that did they? ::)
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Many believe 98/98 was his best. Many believe 2001 was his best. I personally believe 2003 was his most dominant, whether he actually looked the best/most aesthetic or not. Many would agree with me, but we can't know how many "many" is. I don't think any stats on percentages on which year was the "right" answer have or will ever be obtained, so we'll never know. How's that?
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not good enough because ND claims no one believes 99 was his best ::).
he was a few quotes from some people in the industry that say 2001 was his best (in their opinion - regardless of whether or not it has merit), and thats all he goes by..
thats how easily influenced and narrow minded he is..
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not good enough because ND claims no one believes 99 was his best ::).
he was a few quotes from some people in the industry that say 2001 was his best (in their opinion - regardless of whether or not it has merit), and thats all he goes by..
thats how easily influenced and narrow minded he is..
LIAR show me where I ever claimed ' no one believes 99 was his best ' LIAR I said no experts feel 99 was his best and neither does he , a bunch of ignorant fan-boys think 99 is the best and NONE of the experts say it is , it's like saying 1992 was Dorian's best when in contradicts reality and the general consensus
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it's like saying 1992 was Dorian's best when in contradicts reality
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LOL
so now, after tons of comparison pics and two videos showing 2001 was not as good as 99, you are talking about 'contradicting reality" all of a sudden?
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oh boy...
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still waiting for the visuals to back up your claim that 'ronnie 2001 KILLS 99" ::)
hint: if the two damn videos didn't show it, nothing ever will.
because 2001 was not better than 99.
end of story.
oh, and by the way, Ronnie's gut was signficantly worse at the 2001 AC (and 2000 olympia for that matter) than it was in 99.
too bad your eye witnesses didnt pick up on that did they? ::)
thanks for playing dummy
99 gut too :-\
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not good enough because ND claims no one believes 99 was his best ::).
That's true. When it comes to Colemans best showing, always the three Olympia 98, Arnolds 01 and Olympia 03 are mentioned.
99 is never mentioned by anyone.
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LOL
so now, after tons of comparison pics and two videos showing 2001 was not as good as 99, you are talking about 'contradicting reality" all of a sudden?
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oh boy...
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I see exactly why the think 2001 is his best when I see the video and as usual I know what I'm talking about
after seeing the videos you claimed Dorian lost in 1993 :-\ you don't know much
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The right one is probably the best BB shot I've ever seen. Holy crap @those arms + delts :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=289869.0;attach=330450;image)
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That's true. When it comes to Colemans best showing, always the three Olympia 98, Arnolds 01 and Olympia 03 are mentioned.
99 is never mentioned by anyone.
hahahahah exactly don't talk sense to him he's stupid ;D
99 Olympia ::) Ronnie's said twice 1998 was his best Olympia because everything was spot-on
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Many believe 98/98 was his best. Many believe 2001 was his best. I personally believe 2003 was his most dominant, whether he actually looked the best/most aesthetic or not. Many would agree with me, but we can't know how many "many" is. I don't think any stats on percentages on which year was the "right" answer have or will ever be obtained, so we'll never know. How's that?
The general consensus among the experts is 2001 ASC is his personal best and some feel the best anyone's ever looked , Ronnie has said 98 Olympia was his best on multiple occasions , 99 is seldom praised as his best showing , but a bunch of fans sure but not so with experts
and 2003 ::) AMAZING but not his best overall by a long shot
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The right one is probably the best BB shot I've ever seen. Holy crap @those arms + delts :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=289869.0;attach=330450;image)
Which is exactly why 2001 KILLS 1999 ;D
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Ronnie must have decided he wouldn't mind a Hummer and an extra hundred grand in his checking account, so he broke tradition and competed at the Arnold Classic in March, winning handily at a ripped and streamlined 250 pounds. To this day, there are still many who consider this the best 'look' Ronnie has ever displayed, as his waist was tight, he was thick and full all over, and his condition was spot-on.
From Ronnie's website ;)
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hahahahah exactly don't talk sense to him he's stupid ;D
99 Olympia ::) Ronnie's said twice 1998 was his best Olympia because everything was spot-on
ronnie also said he was better in 99 than 98.
remember that ND? the quote you pretend doesn't exist..
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LOL if you are going to try and prove something, at least take a shot where ronnie is actually posing LOL
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the 99 shot is halfway through and not even flexing..lol
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so much for ND's "proof" LOL
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what an epic failure.
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That's true. When it comes to Colemans best showing, always the three Olympia 98, Arnolds 01 and Olympia 03 are mentioned.
99 is never mentioned by anyone.
your as clueless as ND :o
enjoy reading this:
http://www.musclemecca.com/showthread.php/99-coleman-everyone-else-4268.html?t=4268
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uh oh.
ND is going to bury his head in the sand again..or is that between dorian's legs? :-X
the 99 RC is the best physique to ever step onstage
99= Ronnies best ever
Thank you! I thought i was the only one who liked the 99' Coleman over the 03' one.
I'm pretty sure 99.9% of the people here prefer his 99' > 03'
Ronnie's best ever
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LOL if you are going to try and prove something, at least take a shot where ronnie is actually posing LOL
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the 99 shot is halfway through and not even flexing..lol
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As usual YOU always do more harm than good posting a pic lol thanks for proving my point idiot ;)
2001 is MUCH BETTER
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As usual YOU always do more harm than good posting a pic lol thanks for proving my point idiot ;)
2001 is MUCH BETTER
man, you have no clue.
not only do you think dorian is better, you think his 01 form blows away his 99 form
man, you are totally in the dark.. :o
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ronnie also said he was better in 99 than 98.
remember that ND? the quote you pretend doesn't exist..
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HE SAID THAT IN 99 remember that moron , everyone says they were better than last year and after they have time to reflect on their careers they can sit down and come to that conclusion , guess what it wasn't 1999 ;)
2001 beats 1998/1999/ etc
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uh oh.
ND is going to bury his head in the sand again..or is that between dorian's legs? :-X
LMMFAO and this is your ' proof ' ? meltdown ;)
a bunch of internet-fan-boys LMMFAO
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a bunch of internet-fan-boys LMMFAO
who know how to evaluate a physique properly..unlike you.. Mr. dorian is better LOL
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man, you have no clue.
not only do you think dorian is better, you think his 01 form blows away his 99 form
man, you are totally in the dark.. :o
Where is the experts who agree with you? ;)
thanks for playing though
Ronnie must have decided he wouldn't mind a Hummer and an extra hundred grand in his checking account, so he broke tradition and competed at the Arnold Classic in March, winning handily at a ripped and streamlined 250 pounds. To this day, there are still many who consider this the best 'look' Ronnie has ever displayed, as his waist was tight, he was thick and full all over, and his condition was spot-on.
this is from Ronnie's own website , read em and weep ;D
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who know how to evaluate a physique properly..unlike you.. Mr. dorian is better LOL
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Like you? Dorian lost in 93 ;) Ronnie's calves are more detailed LMFAO Ronnie was granier than Dorian hahahahah
run along punching bag
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PROOF you're stupid beyond belief , PROOF you don't have any commonsense what so ever , proof how moronic you are ;)
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everyone says they were better than last year and after they have time to forget how they looked back then and come to that conclusion
fixed. ::)
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PROOF you're stupid beyond belief , PROOF you don't have any commonsense what so ever , proof how moronic you are ;)
the truth bothers you, doesn't it:
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fixed. ::)
only in your fantasy world kid , where Ronnie easily surpasses Dorian at being grainy LMMFAO
run along you moron I own your stupidity at will
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the truth bothers you, doesn't it:
The truth is you're an idiot who constantly and consistently gets everything wrong
how is Ronnie more grainy? lol
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ronnie also said he was better in 99 than 98.
remember that ND? the quote you pretend doesn't exist..
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Well, I'm pretty sure Ronnie said on the prosource board once that 1998 was his best showing ever. Must be there somewhere in black and white, but I'm too lazy to search for it.
He also said on PBW once that 1998 was his best showing ever.
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Well, I'm pretty sure Ronnie said on the prosource board once that 1998 was his best showing ever. Must be there somewhere in black and white, but I'm too lazy to search for it.
He also said on PBW once that 1998 was his best showing ever.
exactly , Ronnie doesn't matter when he doesn't say what Hulkster wants
] There are those who feel you were at your best when you competed lighter, which for you was in the low 270's, and those who say you were best in the 290's. Was there a particular look you presented that you preferred over the others?
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Number one. That one was incredible to me. It (Ronnie's first Olympia win in 1998) always will be and nothing will ever take the place of that one. Everything was just spot on for that show. I had to overcome so much to win that one too.
everything was spot-on for that show which means EVERYTHING was NOT spot-on for 1999 , there you go Ronnie admitting 98 was his best ;D
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Well, I'm pretty sure Ronnie said on the prosource board once that 1998 was his best showing ever. Must be there somewhere in black and white, but I'm too lazy to search for it.
He also said on PBW once that 1998 was his best showing ever.
ronnie said at his victory seminar that he was better in 99 than in 98, which drives ND nuts.
see, all his arguments rely on quotes, and since he loves to maintain that 98 was better than 99, this quote from ronnie really fucks up his argument.
and he hates it. can't you tell? lol
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ronnie said at his victory seminar that he was better in 99 than in 98, which drives ND nuts.
see, all his arguments rely on quotes, and since he loves to maintain that 98 was better than 99, this quote from ronnie really fucks up his argument.
and he hates it. can't you tell? lol
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http://modavox.vo.llnwd.net/o21/solomon/Solomon091007.mp3
HULKSTER=PWNED!!!
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ronnie said at his victory seminar that he was better in 99 than in 98, which drives ND nuts.
see, all his arguments rely on quotes, and since he loves to maintain that 98 was better than 99, this quote from ronnie really fucks up his argument.
and he hates it. can't you tell? lol
Don't presume to speak for me , it doesn't drive me nuts I could careless what he said in 99 , what matters is what he's said at the end of his career ;) which pissed YOU off just like when he's said he could never beat Dorian ;) your own hero ended any debate between us and now it's just poor little Hulkster chasing me around getting corrected at every turn lol with the prosource quote that makes THREE occasions Ronnie said 1998 is better than 1999
stick 1999 up your ass kid , it means ZERO compared to his real best 2001 and then 1998 ;)
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35:45
http://modavox.vo.llnwd.net/o21/solomon/Solomon091007.mp3
HULKSTER=PWNED!!!
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HAHAHAHAHAH Great stuff lol
Hulkster = PWNED by his own her yet again lol
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funny, McGough thinks 99 is the most advanced Mr. O physique ever seen on an olympia stage:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_7_23/ai_n15346614/
notice, 98 is nowwhere on the list.
and for good reason. :P
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funny, McGough thinks 99 is the most advanced Mr. O physique ever seen on an olympia stage:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_7_23/ai_n15346614/
notice, 98 is nowwhere on the list.
and for good reason. :P
LIAR once again Hulkster the LIAR states an untrue fact NO WHERE does he say it's the most advanced physique in fact he says it's IMPOSSIBLE to choose
and guess what is on that list MORON ;) That being said, I still think he achieved his best-ever physique for the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic.
epic backfire stupid ;)
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While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.
On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.
So much for 1999 and 2001
OWNED again lmmfao
poor Hulkster this is what matters when you bump threads you keep getting your ass kicked ;D
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wrong.
he is a logic lesson for ND, since he doesnt get any intellectual stimulation at his chosen profession :P
if you have a list in chronological order of physiques who on that day 'advanced the sport'
the last physique on that list is the most advanced. it is more advanced by definition than those who came before it, otherwise it would not be on the list. the list would have ended with the person before it (dorian). but it doesn't.
not only does this show McGough feels Ronnie 99 was better than ronnie 98, it also shows he feels he was better than dorian 93.
that is simple logic. simple truth.
this is another one of those peices that ND wishes was never written. it really fucks up his quotes based arguments..
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wrong.
he is a logic lesson for ND, since he doesnt get any intellectual stimulation at his chosen profession :P
if you have a list in chronological order of physiques who on that day 'advanced the sport'
the last physique on that list is the most advanced. it is more advanced by definition than those who came before it, otherwise it would not be on the list. the list would have ended with the person before it (dorian). but it doesn't.
not only does this show McGough feels Ronnie 99 was better than ronnie 98, it also shows he feels he was better than dorian 93.
that is simple logic. simple truth.
this is another one of those peices that ND wishes was never written. it really fucks up his quotes based arguments..
On July 4, I found myself in conversation with Lou Ferrigno. No, we weren't talking about Paul Revere and Mad King George; instead, with the 2005 Olympia Weekend looming like a Ronnie Coleman lat spread, the Hulk wanted to know who I thought was the best-ever Mr. Olympia. My response was that it was impossible to choose
WRONG moron no where does he claim any year is better than the next dummy and chew on this idiot ;)
While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.
On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.
oppsssss that's gonna hurt ;D
98/99/01/03 ALL MEAN NOTHING ;)
run along bitch-boy
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On July 4, I found myself in conversation with Lou Ferrigno. No, we weren't talking about Paul Revere and Mad King George; instead, with the 2005 Olympia Weekend looming like a Ronnie Coleman lat spread, the Hulk wanted to know who I thought was the best-ever Mr. Olympia. My response was that it was impossible to choose
WRONG moron no where does he claim any year is better than the next dummy and chew on this idiot ;)
While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.
On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.
oppsssss that's gonna hurt ;D
98/99/01/03 ALL MEAN NOTHING ;)
run along bitch-boy
Huckster is like a little yappy dog chasing his tale. He knows he can't catch it, but keeps trying and trying anyway. lol
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Huckster is like a little yappy dog chasing his tale. He knows he can't catch it, but keeps trying and trying anyway. lol
lol I made him look stupid on so many occasions he has to try and save face but what he doesn't realize is he looks like an even bigger idiot for doing so ;D
Ronnie nailed his coffin shut , talk about irony
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lol I made him look stupid on so many occasions he has to try and save face but what he doesn't realize is he looks like an even bigger idiot for doing so ;D
Ronnie nailed his coffin shut , talk about irony
Right now Huckster is saying, "Et tu, Ronnie?"
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he claim any year is better than the next dummy
when he says each one 'advanced the sport' then lists them in chronological order..
by definition thats what he has done.
you can't understand that? LOL
apparently, McGough doesn't understand what he has done either LOL
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He knows he can't catch it, but keeps trying and trying anyway.
real life catches it quite easily actually.
what you fools don't understand is that, as always, reality is on my side:
it never seems to be on yours. funny, isn't it? ::)
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LMAO
look at that.
truth hurts, doesn't it nuthuggers?
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when he says each one 'advanced the sport' then lists them in chronological order..
by definition thats what he has done.
you can't understand that? LOL
apparently, McGough doesn't understand what he has done either LOL
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I know you have poor comprehension skills but this is black & white
My response was that it was impossible to choose
miss the part where he says 2001 shits on 1999? miss the part where he said Yates 93 shits on 99 and 2001 ;)
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when he says each one 'advanced the sport' then lists them in chronological order..
by definition thats what he has done.
you can't understand that? LOL
apparently, McGough doesn't understand what he has done either LOL
even entertaining this bullshit that means Jay is better than Ronnie and Dorian LMFAO great logic and Dexter is the best ever lol
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My response was that it was impossible to choose
he is obviously as clueless as you are.
you cant have a list of people that 'advance the sport' in chronological order
and then say that the last person wasnt better.
think about it.
if the last person wasnt better, they could not have advanced the sport above the person that came before them on the list.
duh.
please tell me you are not so stupid as to not understand this simple logic fallacy that McGough has written.
he didnt see it either.
maybe you both need a lesson in basic philosophy and logic LOL
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he is obviously as clueless as you are.
you cant have a list of people that 'advance the sport' in chronological order
and then say that the last person wasnt better.
think about it.
if the last person wasnt better, they could not have advanced the sport above the person that came before them on the list.
duh.
please tell me you are not so stupid as to not understand this simple logic fallacy that McGough has written.
he didnt see it either.
maybe you both need a lesson in basic philosophy and logic LOL
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Yup Jay Cutler advanced the sport and Dexter after him and all were better than the previous guys ;D more retard logic , your University owns you a lot of money ;)
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even entertaining this bullshit that means Jay is better than Ronnie and Dorian LMFAO great logic and Dexter is the best ever lol
jesus did you get up on the stupid side of the bed this morning? ::)
Jay is not on the list because he didn't advance the sport (obviously)
and Dex wasnt Mr. O when the article was written
holy smokes you are setting new records in your own stupidity today ND.
congrats. :-\
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real life catches it quite easily actually.
what you fools don't understand is that, as always, reality is on my side:
it never seems to be on yours. funny, isn't it? ::)
And we all know real life for you is staring at Ronnie pics each day, all day. Don't worry, we're well aware. lol
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Yup Jay Cutler advanced the sport and Dexter after him and all were better than the previous guys ;D more retard logic , your University owns you a lot of money ;)
LOL ND you have absolutely no clue what this article says and its implications do you?
sad.
you need to read more and work that little brain of yours. stop picking flowers and open a book or two.
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jesus did you get up on the stupid side of the bed this morning? ::)
Jay is not on the list because he didn't advance the sport (obviously)
and Dex wasnt Mr. O when the article was written
holy smokes you are setting new records in your own stupidity today ND.
congrats. :-\
Jay wasn't Mr Olympia either you moron
He says specifically 2001 KILLS 1999 thanks for playing stupid ;)
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1999 isn't as good as 2001 and NEITHER would beat Dorian 1993 ;) owned either way stupid
While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.
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1999 isn't as good as 2001 and NEITHER would beat Dorian 1993 ;) owned either way stupid
While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.
Looks like Huckster is chasing his tale again. ::)
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the article was written in 2005 I believe.
now, lesson for ND:
this also means that in McGough's opinion, Ronnie's 99 Olympia form advanced the sport and his 2003 form did NOT, which is a contrary opinion to what some people feel.
are you understanding this ND?
I know critical thinking and understanding seems to be such a challenge for you...
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Looks like Huckster is chasing his tale again. ::)
as always , it doesn't matter what year is his best he still fails at beating Dorian ;D
McGough says specifically it's impossible to choose a best Olympia winner and he thinks just because they are listed in sequential order that means Ronnie is better , such retard logic expected from Hulkster
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the article was written in 2005 I believe.
now, lesson for ND:
this also means that in McGough's opinion, Ronnie's 99 Olympia form advanced the sport and his 2003 form did NOT, which is a contrary opinion to what some people feel.
are you understanding this ND?
I know critical thinking and understanding seems to be such a challenge for you...
Advanced the sport on that day doesn't mean better than , in fact it has nothing to do with Dorian because he wasn't competing
show me where he says 1999 Mr Olympia is better than 1993 ;) good luck moron , 2001 is better than 1999 and Dorian is BETTER than ALL-Ronnies
While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.
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My response was that it was impossible to choose
NO WHERE does it say 1999 is better than 1993
Peter McGough on which was the best Olympia ;)
Peter McGough Ironage Agust 23, 2007
What was the best Olympia you saw? It's close between 1988 and 1993. So many competitors in great shape in both and so many storylines in both.
Oppppppppppppppppppp where's 1999? thanks for playing stupid ;)
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Advanced the sport on that day doesn't mean better than , in fact it has nothing to do with Dorian because he wasn't competing
LOL I am loving this because you are showing how clueless you really are about the implications of this article LOL
and it should be very simple. but clearly, some of us were not so gifted in the grey matter department LOL
think about it oh Flowered One.
if Ronnie 99 advanced the sport on that day, it means he raised the bar to a level not seen before in bodybuilding.
which means to a level above and beyond dorian 93 and all those that came before him.
you see, it directly implicates that ronnie 99 was better than all those physiques on that list, by definition.
understand now?
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My response was that it was impossible to choose
NO WHERE does it say 1999 is better than 1993
it doesn't have to. thats the point.
the very idea of the article with the chronological list on it does this all by itself.
just because McGough doesnt understand simple logic isnt my fault.
but it certainly puts a damper on your argument, doesnt it? hahahahaha
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it doesn't have to. thats the point.
the very idea of the article with the chronological list on it does this all by itself.
just because McGough doesnt understand simple logic isnt my fault.
but it certainly puts a damper on your argument, doesnt it? hahahahaha
While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.
this renders ANYTHING you type moot , at least before he said it was impossible to choose looks like it isn;t anymore ;)
owned as usual
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ND shown to be clueless about simple stuff yet again
I love it hahahaha
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LOL I am loving this because you are showing how clueless you really are about the implications of this article LOL
and it should be very simple. but clearly, some of us were not so gifted in the grey matter department LOL
think about it oh Flowered One.
if Ronnie 99 advanced the sport on that day, it means he raised the bar to a level not seen before in bodybuilding.
which means to a level above and beyond dorian 93 and all those that came before him.
you see, it directly implicates that ronnie 99 was better than all those physiques on that list, by definition.
understand now?
You have severe comprehension skills is explicitly says at the beginning it's impossible to pick a best Mr Olympia , yet just because he lists them chronologically you jump to the conclusion he's better when he says he's NOT and NO ONE IS because it's impossible to choose
using your retard logic Frank Zane is better than Arnold LMFAO
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ND shown to be clueless about simple stuff yet again
I love it hahahaha
I believe they call that projection
he states It's impossible to choose
but Ronnie is better LMFAO