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they just keep coming out.
Press Releases
Bodybuilding association chairman charged for alleged bribery and subvention fraud 19.08.09
The chairman of a bodybuilding association was today (Wednesday) charged by the ICAC for his alleged roles in a bribery scam to assist a suspended athlete in competing in the 2006 Doha Asian Games as well as a government subvention fraud.
Chan Siu-man, 39, chairman of Hong Kong China Bodybuilding and Fitness Association (HKCBBA), faces one count of conspiracy for an agent to accept an advantage, contrary to Section 9(1)(a) of the Prevention of Bribery Ordinance and Section 159A of the Crimes Ordinance, and one of fraud.
The defendant will appear in Eastern Magistracy at 9:30 am on Friday (August 21) for transfer to the District Court.
The conspiracy charge alleges that between May 2006 and February 2007, the defendant conspired together with the secretary general of the Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation (ABBF) and a bodybuilding athlete for the secretary general of ABBF to accept US$10,000 (about HK$78,000) from the athlete.
In return, the secretary general of ABBF was said to have shortened or lifted the period of suspension of participating in any bodybuilding competition imposed on the athlete, and enabled the athlete to participate in the 2006 Doha Asian Games.
ICAC enquiries revealed that the aforesaid athlete was banned from any bodybuilding competition for two years as he had failed a doping test in October 2005 after competing in a bodybuilding championship held in South Korea.
The fraud charge alleges that between the end of 2007 and May 15, 2008, the defendant falsely represented in the annual return of HKCBBA for the financial year ended March 31, 2007 that the statement of programmes subvented by the Leisure and Cultural Services Department (LCSD) was true and correct and the amounts of actual expenses stated therein were genuine.
The defendant, with intent to defraud, allegedly induced LCSD to accept the annual return submitted as genuine and not to demand a return of subvention from HKCBBA to LCSD.
As a result of the above suspected false representation, the defendant allegedly deceived subvention totalling over HK$250,000 from LCSD.
The defendant has been released on ICAC bail, pending his court appearance on Friday.
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old news has nothing to do with us bb
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So does this mean that Milos was vindicated and should be reinstated? Speak on this Boob Chic
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So does this mean that Milos was vindicated and should be reinstated? Speak on this Boob Chic
of course everyone knows what Rat(chua) was up to.Milos was the first one who point finger at him.But even before milos his own countryman Azman abdullah ifbb world champion took him to court for taking bribe to ensure his gold medal and drug test Clarence at world games.
whole Asian bodybuilding community should be thankfull to Mr Adil fahim for putting this filth away.
As of Milos i dont think he wants to be reinstated.i mean just to clear his name may be but for ifbb competition i dont think so.
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old news has nothing to do with us bb
not old news it happened yesterday, he will be in court tomorrow!
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of course everyone knows what Rat(chua) was up to.Milos was the first one who point finger at him.But even before milos his own countryman Azman abdullah ifbb world champion took him to court for taking bribe to ensure his gold medal and drug test Clarence at world games. whole Asian bodybuilding community should be thankfull to Mr Adil fahim for putting this filth away.
so now there is no reason for the ABBF to break away from the IFBB
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so now there is no reason for the ABBF to break away from the IFBB
once paul chua is behind bars.things will start to improve.
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PRO BODYBUILDING SHOWS A SCAM?!?
Who the fuck would have thought - groudbreaking news right here folks.!!!!
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I am just waiting and observing...
Nobody from the IFBB has even apologized yet...
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I am just waiting and observing...
Nobody from the IFBB has even apologized yet...
because they dont give a fuck - they rather see if this will just "disapear" - a statement also means that they recogrince this problem to exist - I wouldn't be suprised if Chick is somewhat tied into this - not saying he is just saying I wouldn't be surpised.
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I am just waiting and observing...
Nobody from the IFBB has even apologized yet...
Milos, do you think Ben Weider was aware of these bribes etc going on throughout the years?
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Milos, do you think Ben Weider was aware of these bribes etc going on throughout the years?
Ben was a very smart business man
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Milos, do you think Ben Weider was aware of these bribes etc going on throughout the years?
lol...oh hell yes.
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lol...oh hell yes.
X2, he was earning off them
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I am just waiting and observing...
Nobody from the IFBB has even apologized yet...
Dear fellow felon;
we be sorry
our bad
there ya go criminal
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I am just waiting and observing...
Nobody from the IFBB has even apologized yet...
Apologize for what? No one questioned whether you were right or wrong, it was your lack of following protocol and chain of command, and lack of providing proof of allegations, which is what you were suspended for....Chua could have been ousted a year earlier if you didnt open your big yapper and give him every opportunity to cover his ass...
You still dont get it.
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Apologize for what? No one questioned whether you were right or wrong, it was your lack of following protocol and chain of command, and lack of providing proof of allegations, which is what you were suspended for....Chua could have been ousted a year earlier if you didnt open your big yapper and give him every opportunity to cover his ass...
You still dont get it.
Very good point! Milos intention was good but went about it the wrong way.
Chick can Milos be reinstated?
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Very good point! Milos intention was good but went about it the wrong way.
Chick can Milos be reinstated?
CAN be....yes.
Highly unlikely
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CAN be....yes.
Highly unlikely
I am sure you are doing everything in your power to help an IFBB athlete Bob !
oh yeah right, Milos is not an IFBB athlete anymore.. so that's not of you "jurisdiction" ::)
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Chua could have been ousted a year earlier if you didnt open your big yapper and give him every opportunity to cover his ass...
that's complete BS. Chua had been accused of corruption many times before Milos. The IFBB did nothing those times. and Chua was always able to intimidate the accuser into backing down, either via a libel suit or cutting off the accusers source of income. Chua tried that with Milos, getting other Asian orgs to disinvite Milos from seminars, etc. That hurt Milos financially, but he has other sources of income in the US that Chua couldn't affect. Its likely that only because an outsider made these latest accusations that Chua wasn't able to wiggle out from under it, and was finally brought down.
No one questioned whether you were right or wrong, it was your lack of following protocol and chain of command, and lack of providing proof of allegations, which is what you were suspended for
yeah, if you want to be a whistle-blower, be sure to follow protocol. We don't want to make it easy for you to point out our corruption.
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Apologize for what? No one questioned whether you were right or wrong, it was your lack of following protocol and chain of command, and lack of providing proof of allegations, which is what you were suspended for....Chua could have been ousted a year earlier if you didnt open your big yapper and give him every opportunity to cover his ass...
You still dont get it.
You are so full of shit. It is the easy around the fact that the IFBB, Chua and whoever else are a bunch of crooks and do so many things illegal its unreal. YOU are on here trying to justify there position and instead of the IFBB admitting to anything wrong they suspend Milos. What a fucking joke of an organization (not really an organization but a club for morons and ass-kissers). No wonder you are the way you are. You have a lifetime position with the IFBB cause no way in the world would they be able to find someone who would lower their standards and basically throw integrity out the window like they have found with you. Unreal. Whats funny is how you believe you are right.
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glad i didn't see OJ kill people, cause there is no way i could have proved it to America all by myself after i pointed it out.
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Apologize for what? No one questioned whether you were right or wrong, it was your lack of following protocol and chain of command, and lack of providing proof of allegations, which is what you were suspended for....Chua could have been ousted a year earlier if you didn't open your big yapper and give him every opportunity to cover his ass...
You still don't get it.
do u ever listen to yourself.how irrational and unreasonable u sounds.No one could do a thing against Rat(chua)he was well protected by Mr Ben Weider.he would still running his dirty business today if Ben had not passed away.
u r so Hippocratic one way u said u have no business with armature wing of ifbb and on the other hand u sounds so deeply involved in it.
let me give u a piece of advise stop posting here u exposing yourself and the picture coming out is not so pretty.u could loose ur job cuz so many people already talking about ur nonsense attitude.
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that's complete BS. Chua had been accused of corruption many times before Milos. The IFBB did nothing those times. and Chua was always able to intimidate the accuser into backing down, either via a libel suit or cutting off the accusers source of income. Chua tried that with Milos, getting other Asian orgs to disinvite Milos from seminars, etc. That hurt Milos financially, but he has other sources of income in the US that Chua couldn't affect. Its likely that only because an outsider made these latest accusations that Chua wasn't able to wiggle out from under it, and was finally brought down.
yeah, if you want to be a whistle-blower, be sure to follow protocol. We don't want to make it easy for you to point out our corruption.
Weve been down this road already, Tim....I dint know anything about how many times this was brought up, and by who, etc...
What I do know, is that you have to follow the chain of command and protocol, which Milos didn't....this inturn, let the door open for his suspension. That was MILOS' own fault....he could have used his resources and gone to Manion, etc. He also had opportunity to provide proof of his allegations, he failed to do so....mostly because he drew attention to the matter (and to Chua) before getting his ducks in a row...
Milos has likened what he saw to a "murder" taking place....using that analogy, that would be akin to witnessing a murder, then killing the perpetrator, then trying to convince the jury that you're innocent of murder yourself. It's called "due process"....even though you witnessed a crime, taking your own actions might cost you in the long run, as it has Milos.
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Milos has likened what he saw to a "murder" taking place....using that analogy, that would be akin to witnessing a murder, then killing the perpetrator, then trying to convince the jury that you're innocent of murder yourself. It's called "due process"....even though you witnessed a crime, taking your own actions might cost you in the long run, as it has Milos.
:o ??? :o ???
killing the perpetrator? how is distilling justice personally, as being the judge, jury, and executioner, the same as reporting the crime?
basically what you're saying is publicly reporting the crime is taking justice into your own hands, that if he were civil, he would have quietly reported the crime so there wouldn't be any bad publicity.
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You are so full of shit. It is the easy around the fact that the IFBB, Chua and whoever else are a bunch of crooks and do so many things illegal its unreal. YOU are on here trying to justify there position and instead of the IFBB admitting to anything wrong they suspend Milos. What a fucking joke of an organization (not really an organization but a club for morons and ass-kissers). No wonder you are the way you are. You have a lifetime position with the IFBB cause no way in the world would they be able to find someone who would lower their standards and basically throw integrity out the window like they have found with you. Unreal. Whats funny is how you believe you are right.
sociopaths are always right
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:o ??? :o ???
killing the perpetrator? how is distilling justice personally, as being the judge, jury, and executioner, the same as reporting the crime?
basically what you're saying is publicly reporting the crime is taking justice into your own hands, that if he were civil, he would have quietly reported the crime so there wouldn't be any bad publicity.
Simple....Milos proceeded to call a press conference on the spot, and point the finger to Chua...thus making him judge, jury and executioner.
"reporting the crime" would have been calling Manion, then doing his own investigating, gathering evidence, etc.
Publicity (god or bad) is irrelevant....keeping it under wraps would have made dotting I's and crossing T's a whole lot easier and more effective if the goal was to seek justice
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Simple....Milos proceeded to call a press conference on the spot, and point the finger to Chua...thus making him judge, jury and executioner.
"reporting the crime" would have been calling Manion, then doing his own investigating, gathering evidence, etc.
Publicity (god or bad) is irrelevant....keeping it under wraps would have made dotting I's and crossing T's a whole lot easier and more effective if the goal was to seek justice
dude is always right lol
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"yes people when you see something illegal follow the proper chain of command and protocol!
write it down in the proper format and stationary template and hand to the chain of command even though the chain of command is the problem"
that statement pretty much summarizes Chick's personality and the job that he has done as "athlete rep"
"why protest?, it may upset the bosses, instead lets ask them what we should do"..great attitude ::)
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"yes people when you see something illegal follow the proper chain of command and protocol!
write it down in the proper format and stationary template and hand to the chain of command even though the chain of command is the problem"
that statement pretty much summarizes Chick's personality and the job that he has done as "athlete rep"
"why protest?, it may upset the bosses, instead lets ask them what we should do"..great attitude ::)
Might sound crazy to you but it is so very true. There is always a proper and prescribed way to initiate things such as this. It's not only this way with the IFBB but with many organizations. With this also comes the chance that not following the proper protocol and procedures will complicate or even contaminate any investigation that may arise subsequent to not following prescribed procedures. It's a damn shame but its true. If you really want to get something done there is nothing wrong with voicing your opinion or even adamantly calling foul, as long as you do it the right way.
Pat
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Simple....Milos proceeded to call a press conference on the spot, and point the finger to Chua...thus making him judge, jury and executioner.
"reporting the crime" would have been calling Manion, then doing his own investigating, gathering evidence, etc.
Publicity (god or bad) is irrelevant....keeping it under wraps would have made dotting I's and crossing T's a whole lot easier and more effective if the goal was to seek justice
good god you are really a nitwit...it has been reported to Manion time and time again. Milos shined the bright light on this cock roach and finally manion and the authorities were forced to do something. he should have been commended.
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good god you are really a nitwit...it has been reported to Manion time and time again. Milos shined the bright light on this cock roach and finally manion and the authorities were forced to do something. he should have been commended.
Not Manion. Manion is the head of the NPC and of the IFBB Pro. He has no authority regarding the international amateur IFBB. But Ben Weider and Santonja both certainly knew of years of accusations against Chua, and did not choose to remedy the situation. Only after Milos's public accusations was Santonja forced to act.
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Not Manion. Manion is the head of the NPC and of the IFBB Pro. He has no authority regarding the international amateur IFBB. But Ben Weider and Santonja both certainly knew of years of accusations against Chua, and did not choose to remedy the situation. Only after Milos's public accusations was Santonja forced to act.
I've lived long enough to see the future become history. Empires crumble
There are no exceptions
Everybody breaks the rules one way or the other
In federations You either get kicked out trying to be honest
or stay long enough to see yourself become the villain
it is just how it is
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OK. here's one thing that keeps coming up.
Bob keeps reminding us of the clear separation between IFBB pro league and the amateur. particularily the Asian bodybuilding world. he says he and Manion and the rest of the pro league representives have nothing to do with that federation.
well, why is Milos suspended from the pro league for his accusations about something that has nothing to do with the pro league? would he be suspended from the IFBB if he said pro boxing was fixed?
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Apologize for what? No one questioned whether you were right or wrong, it was your lack of following protocol and chain of command, and lack of providing proof of allegations, which is what you were suspended for....Chua could have been ousted a year earlier if you didnt open your big yapper and give him every opportunity to cover his ass...
You still dont get it.
You are pathetic piece of shit...(I was going to say human being...but I realized it would be unnecessary).
Chua could be ousted a year earlier?
What do you mean?
IFBB had some information already about him, and he was already on target?
Open your trap and stick your foot in your mouth again you fucking moron...
I can't wait to hear this one...
Oh, I am waiting.... ;)
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Not Manion. Manion is the head of the NPC and of the IFBB Pro. He has no authority regarding the international amateur IFBB. But Ben Weider and Santonja both certainly knew of years of accusations against Chua, and did not choose to remedy the situation. Only after Milos's public accusations was Santonja forced to act.
sorry...meant Santoja not Manion
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OK. here's one thing that keeps coming up.
Bob keeps reminding us of the clear separation between IFBB pro league and the amateur. particularily the Asian bodybuilding world. he says he and Manion and the rest of the pro league representives have nothing to do with that federation.
well, why is Milos suspended from the pro league for his accusations about something that has nothing to do with the pro league? would he be suspended from the IFBB if he said pro boxing was fixed?
Well, let's see:
PRO BOXING IS FIXED!
Is this inappropriate channel?
Code of ethics?
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CAN be....yes.
Highly unlikely
Wanna bet puppet?
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How is your testicular fortitude these days?
Recovered from last time?
And speaking of which - where is my money?
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:o
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How is your testicular fortitude these days?
Recovered from last time?
And speaking of which - where is my money?
don't hold your breath
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Anyone who thinx what was going on was beyond the knowledge of the top guys in the IFBB is fooling himself
whatever was going on was with the approval of the executive committee
and Milos got suspended due to bashing the IFBB in public and questioning the integrity of an executive member and he is not the 1st nor the last
a lot of amateur bbers and officials got the same shaft due to similar action
and the action taken again the ABBF had nothing to do with Milos
that was the whole plan years ago
I heard it 1st in china 2005
even though it was not an official statement but the guys was like Nostradamus
I doubted him after I saw chua become the executive assistant to the president
cause he told me that Fahim will
but it wasnt long until everything got in place as Nostradamus narrated
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How is your testicular fortitude these days?
Recovered from last time?
And speaking of which - where is my money?
Nasser wants his money back to >:( ;D
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OK. here's one thing that keeps coming up.
Bob keeps reminding us of the clear separation between IFBB pro league and the amateur. particularily the Asian bodybuilding world. he says he and Manion and the rest of the pro league representives have nothing to do with that federation.
well, why is Milos suspended from the pro league for his accusations about something that has nothing to do with the pro league? would he be suspended from the IFBB if he said pro boxing was fixed?
Very good point my big friend. Chic what is with this?
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Milos what is the IFBB wanting you to sign to get back in? Did Lee Priest have to sign such said document?
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Simple....Milos proceeded to call a press conference on the spot, and point the finger to Chua...thus making him judge, jury and executioner.
"reporting the crime" would have been calling Manion, then doing his own investigating, gathering evidence, etc.
Publicity (god or bad) is irrelevant....keeping it under wraps would have made dotting I's and crossing T's a whole lot easier and more effective if the goal was to seek justice
It has been reported numerous times and nothing happened. The pussies at the IFBB are scared. Milos did exactly what someone with integrity and honor would have. Of course this is something you are from having so you wouldn't understand and could easily explain why you continue to defend the pussies and assholes at the IFBB. But then where would you be without them. It isn't like you have much to fall back on. You would think for someone who pretends to know so much and have all the answers they would see how pathetic they sound. But I case in your case that just isn't the case.
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Very good point my big friend. Chic what is with this?
Because his actions were as a member of the pro league...and officials are officials, there is no distinction of amateur or Pro in the rules regarding such.
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so basically Milos got suspended because he pointed out that the officials were corrupt in and how they judged amateurs. And even if he was proven right, which he has, he is still suspended for not following the proper channels for pointing out said corruption?
hmmm..so a whistle blower is punished because he didn't blow the whistle in the preferred manner?
and since he is suspended you can no longer him help.. classic ::)
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Because his actions were as a member of the pro league...and officials are officials, there is no distinction of amateur or Pro in the rules regarding such.
ridiculous
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Milos what is the IFBB wanting you to sign to get back in? Did Lee Priest have to sign such said document?
Rumor has it that the IFBB wants Milos to sign a paper that says he won't sue them for all the $$$ he lost due to their political influence with his sponsors, etc before they'll let him back in.
Why would they do that ???
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Rumor has it that the IFBB wants Milos to sign a paper that says he won't sue them for all the $$$ he lost due to their political influence with his sponsors, etc before they'll let him back in.
Why would they do that ???
So Milos didnt follow the process but indentified a rat - that is messed up ::)
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Because his actions were as a member of the pro league...and officials are officials, there is no distinction of amateur or Pro in the rules regarding such.
So you are saying to then if a Major League baseball player is a little league coach too and gets in an argument with an umpire at a Little League game and bumps into him and pushes him, he should get suspended from playing major league baseball because an umpire is an umpire? :D
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not old news it happened yesterday, he will be in court tomorrow!
u seems to have first hand knowledge about the satuation in HK.can u update us what happened in court.
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Apologize for what? No one questioned whether you were right or wrong, it was your lack of following protocol and chain of command, and lack of providing proof of allegations, which is what you were suspended for....Chua could have been ousted a year earlier if you didnt open your big yapper and give him every opportunity to cover his ass...
You still dont get it.
Imagine having this guy stick up for you if he were your union rep or equivalent at work.....
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Imagine having this guy stick up for you if he were your union rep or equivalent at work.....
not a qualified advocate
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Of course protocol is more important than getting rid of crooks. This is why IFBB is such a dynamic organization. And..chick is right...as always ::)
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So you are saying to then if a Major League baseball player is a little league coach too and gets in an argument with an umpire at a Little League game and bumps into him and pushes him, he should get suspended from playing major league baseball because an umpire is an umpire? :D
I'm saying if a NFL player is caught bankrolling a dog fighting ring, he might just get suspended from the National football league...
BTW, the little league umpire is not a part of the MLB
Not one of your smarter posts
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u seems to have first hand knowledge about the satuation in HK.can u update us what happened in court.
He will go on trial on September the 11th
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He will go on trial on September the 11th
what is he being charged with?
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what is he being charged with?
fraud and arranging/accepting bribes, there maybe other charges im not sure, he most likely will do time
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fraud and arranging/accepting bribes, there maybe other charges im not sure, he most likely will do time
thanks for the info fellow getbigger. is there an english language link to media coverage that you're aware of? if not, is it taking place inHK or where? sank u...that's asian for thank you. :)
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thanks for the info fellow getbigger. is there an english language link to media coverage that you're aware of? if not, is it taking place inHK or where? sank u...that's asian for thank you. :)
Yes is being tried in HK court , its in the newspapers in HK in English, dont know any links, probably wont be any more news until after the next court date!
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fraud and arranging/accepting bribes, there maybe other charges im not sure, he most likely will do time
thanks for the info.this is an imprtant case.it will decide the fate of newly formed asian and world bb fedration by Rat(chua) and osama.
Asian olympic concil watching it very closely.Not very good news for bodybuilding though cuz bodbuidling could get kicked out of asian beach game as well.
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thanks for the info.this is an imprtant case.it will decide the fate of newly formed asian and world bb fedration by Rat(chua) and osama.
Asian olympic concil watching it very closely.Not very good news for bodybuilding though cuz bodbuidling could get kicked out of asian beach game as well.
its already been kicked out of the East Asia games which will be in HK, its been kicked out of the Asian games, and im sure it will be kicked out of the beach games also, not good for bodybuilding at all but its all Chua and the other scum like Chan that have caused this ::)
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I'm saying if a NFL player is caught bankrolling a dog fighting ring, he might just get suspended from the National football league...
BTW, the little league umpire is not a part of the MLB
Not one of your smarter posts
But as you said the IFBB Amatuers is not part of the IFBB Pros. Yet the Professional side got involved with what Milos did.
And by the way. Vick got suspended because he broke a "Decency Clause" that is in NFL contracts. See that is what separates BB from any real sport or organization. The NFL and others uphold their Rules and Ethics clauses as much as possible. BB does not. Big difference and one that is a big reason major sponsors, and networks and the general public does not take BB seriously. Oh, by the way when his suspension was over he signed a new contract to play. Milos has not.
Not one of your smarters posts either
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But as you said the IFBB Amatuers is not part of the IFBB Pros. Yet the Professional side got involved with what Milos did.
And by the way. Vick got suspended because he broke a "Decency Clause" that is in NFL contracts. See that is what separates BB from any real sport or organization. The NFL and others uphold their Rules and Ethics clauses as much as possible. BB does not. Big difference and one that is a big reason major sponsors, and networks and the general public does not take BB seriously. Oh, by the way when his suspension was over he signed a new contract to play. Milos has not.
Not one of your smarters posts either
Let me explain this a little more simple for ya.....If a major league player in the AL were to accuse a umpire of fixing games in the NL, he might still be accountable for his accusations and suspended from the league....even though the player is from the other league, they're still under the MLB umbrella
The biggest difference which you failed to bring up...is that unlike the MLB, NFL, etc....IFBB pros are not paid by the IFBB....whether or not BB (in you opinion) is taken seriously or not, has nothing to do with the situation of Milos suspention, etc..
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dude is always right lol
I have never seen chick aquiesce to any point, whatsoever
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Let me explain this a little more simple for ya.....If a major league player in the AL were to accuse a umpire of fixing games in the NL, he might still be accountable for his accusations and suspended from the league....even though the player is from the other league, they're still under the MLB umbrella
The biggest difference which you failed to bring up...is that unlike the MLB, NFL, etc....IFBB pros are not paid by the IFBB....whether or not BB (in you opinion) is taken seriously or not, has nothing to do with the situation of Milos suspention, etc..
But the IFBB Pro and IFBB Amatuer are different you said. When something goes down in the Amatuer division you always say it doesn't concern you cause it is the IFBB Amatuer. But, an IFBB Pro did something regarding the IFBB Amatuer and all of a sudden the Pro division gets involved and suspends Milos. Face it Chic even your bullshit sidestepping can't hide the fact you are wrong. But I am sure you will keep trying. And what the hell does not being paid by the IFBB have to do with anything. Dude you are running out of excuses so bad now you are making up shit. I just hope you don't say something like "what you fail to see is that IFBB Pros wear banana hammocks and MLB players wear sliding pants." Holy Shit you are getting worse!
Oh by the way I highly doubt if a MLB player accuses an umpire for anything he wouldn't get suspended for it.
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But the IFBB Pro and IFBB Amatuer are different you said. When something goes down in the Amatuer division you always say it doesn't concern you cause it is the IFBB Amatuer. But, an IFBB Pro did something regarding the IFBB Amatuer and all of a sudden the Pro division gets involved and suspends Milos. Face it Chic even your bullshit sidestepping can't hide the fact you are wrong. But I am sure you will keep trying. And what the hell does not being paid by the IFBB have to do with anything. Dude you are running out of excuses so bad now you are making up shit. I just hope you don't say something like "what you fail to see is that IFBB Pros wear banana hammocks and MLB players wear sliding pants." Holy Shit you are getting worse!
Oh by the way I highly doubt if a MLB player accuses an umpire for anything he wouldn't get suspended for it.
An IFBB official is an official...as I've stated numerous times now....the fact that you cant comprehend it, doesn't make it any less truthful. The rules dont distinquish betwee IFBB pro/ amateur officials.
Cant dumb it down any more for you.
I cant be right or wrong on the matter....I just spelled out the facts for you. I took no stance either way on the matter
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So Chick whats wrong with Milos calling out a scumbag? From what you say its just the way he did it? Whats this world coming to?
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An IFBB official is an official...as I've stated numerous times now....the fact that you cant comprehend it, doesn't make it any less truthful. The rules dont distinquish betwee IFBB pro/ amateur officials.
Cant dumb it down any more for you.
I cant be right or wrong on the matter....I just spelled out the facts for you. I took no stance either way on the matter
I give up. It s like arguing with someone with Autism. You see only what you want the IFBB wants you to see. Simple FACT is what Milos did what was right and what the IFBB did to him was wrong. You didn't support him as a rep, you supported the IFBB and did exactly wht they told you to do.
Plain and simple and I can't dumb it down for you anymore.
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While I am glad for Milos that he has been vindicated somewhat, being that what he alleged has apparently turned out to be true. However, in going forward with allegations of this nature, one must follow a certain protocol.
People can opine that Milos would have received the same treatment regardless, but we really can't know that for sure. At one time or another, we've seen pro athletes in different sports federations receiving suspensions for airing complaints or allegations in a public way. This isn't terribly different. Going through proper channels to address the situation is par for the course in most sports leagues, regardless of the possible validity of the claims being brought forth. Unfortunately, by going about things as he did, and despite how one may even admire some of the fortitude in doing so, Milos has lost a great deal as a result. Upsetting, I'm sure, when one is trying to do the right thing, but not entirely hard to understand considering the chosen method of doing so.
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While I am glad for Milos that he has been vindicated somewhat, being that what he alleged has apparently turned out to be true. However, in going forward with allegations of this nature, one must follow a certain protocol.
People can opine that Milos would have received the same treatment regardless, but we really can't know that for sure. At one time or another, we've seen pro athletes in different sports federations receiving suspensions for airing complaints or allegations in a public way. This isn't terribly different. Going through proper channels to address the situation is par for the course in most sports leagues, regardless of the possible validity of the claims being brought forth. Unfortunately, by going about things as he did, and despite how one may even admire some of the fortitude in doing so, Milos has lost a great deal as a result. Upsetting, I'm sure, when one is trying to do the right thing, but not entirely hard to understand considering the chosen method of doing so.
You implying logic here...they'll never catch on
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While I am glad for Milos that he has been vindicated somewhat, being that what he alleged has apparently turned out to be true. However, in going forward with allegations of this nature, one must follow a certain protocol.
People can opine that Milos would have received the same treatment regardless, but we really can't know that for sure. At one time or another, we've seen pro athletes in different sports federations receiving suspensions for airing complaints or allegations in a public way. This isn't terribly different. Going through proper channels to address the situation is par for the course in most sports leagues, regardless of the possible validity of the claims being brought forth. Unfortunately, by going about things as he did, and despite how one may even admire some of the fortitude in doing so, Milos has lost a great deal as a result. Upsetting, I'm sure, when one is trying to do the right thing, but not entirely hard to understand considering the chosen method of doing so.
hahahahahahahahaaaaaa
Too easy............
Hi Bob!! :D
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Milos all of getbig is behind you. ifbb officials are such f.aggots
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While I am glad for Milos that he has been vindicated somewhat, being that what he alleged has apparently turned out to be true. However, in going forward with allegations of this nature, one must follow a certain protocol.
People can opine that Milos would have received the same treatment regardless, but we really can't know that for sure.
People can also opine that the only way Chau was going to go down was if a credible outsider made these allegations in a way that the powers that be could not ignore them.
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or Chua had to be out to make room for the rest to
get paid rule
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or Chua had to be out to make room for the rest to get paid rule
i think you are involved in all this, you are so defensive of the guilty and keep justifying their crooked actions and blaming it on bodybuilders, the same bodybuilders you call stupid are the ones that you sell steroids to and take their money for your ''advice'', yet you are best friends with the likes of Chan, but does'nt the ABBF have an anti doping policy and is a signature to WADA ::) but yet you are an openly admitted steroid dealer and so called guru ::) you should be investigated also.
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People can also opine that the only way Chau was going to go down was if a credible outsider made these allegations in a way that the powers that be could not ignore them.
Certainly possible. We'll never know for sure, I guess.
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i think you are involved in all this, you are so defensive of the guilty and keep justifying their crooked actions and blaming it on bodybuilders, the same bodybuilders you call stupid are the ones that you sell steroids to and take their money for your ''advice'', yet you are best friends with the likes of Chan, but does'nt the ABBF have an anti doping policy and is a signature to WADA ::) but yet you are an openly admitted steroid dealer and so called guru ::) you should be investigated also.
I talked abt that a lot in the past
u cant jump in the ring just cause u think u can box
I explained the doping test and how it is done
there is in drug free bber
there r bbers who are clean on the day of the test
no Guru sells drugs
they recommend and tell u how to use them, how much and when
that is why they are called contest prep advisors
not sellers
I am not involve in any of this as I said nor am I part of any federation or want to be
this is just how things were run in the past 60 years
the judging system always had its flaws yet it just get worse
due to political interference that is just how it is
I am not saying I like
but that is how it has been, it is and will be
I tell that to all the people that I train
U blame chua
do u know what others are doing??? I do cause I train people from different continents and they have issues with their superiors
big time issues
Whether anybody likes it or doesnt like it this is how it is